These never ending debates over preference are always amusing cause someone will get mad at your top 5 cause it doesn't match their own lol

@alphaamigo9688

7 жыл бұрын

willemdee ikr. People need to understand that you can't have twenty people in your top five.

@odg42

7 жыл бұрын

nobody 123 exactly man, top 5s are hard as fuck to make, I can't stand leaving out certain rappers but that's the challenge of it I guess Yet people still take it as a moment to try and" educate" you on the culture because you left out their favourite backpack rapper from arizona or some shit. People get fucking bloodthirsty over GOAT lists, that's why I only partake over comment sections, I dont wanna die for this shit 😂

@rickeybernard8156

7 жыл бұрын

willemdee exactly

@rickeybernard8156

7 жыл бұрын

SAMO KiiNG dude please. That best mc shit is opinion at best. At the most it's popular opinion. The reason people do that because they either conform or they are frustrated someone does not share the same opinion. It's like that "Made you look" remix. It's easily arguable that Luda and Kiss washed Nas on that track, but since it's Nas, popular opinion is Nas did better. You can't say someone is better without another being discredited.

@p.u.r.emusicgroup894

7 жыл бұрын

soundcloud.com/stew-art-pure/moon-walkin-prod-by-thovo

Why everyone sleeps on Andre3000. Most creative . He's a real Artist .. great fashion sense. He's the best writer composter and rapper in my opinion. Outkast changed the south.. He started the fashion trends rappers now days . he's lyrically and musically gifted than most of the top 5. He's always consistent in delivery. wordsmith.

@didiermashaba8464

7 жыл бұрын

Tramaine didn't he cross dress?

@MsJustcurious24

7 жыл бұрын

Tramaine Andre is the true GOAT above all the things you mentioned he is also the best performer (when it comes to hip hop) till this day

@MB-yi4wu

7 жыл бұрын

Tramaine when Andre 3000 puts out another solo album excluding that Love Below bullshit and it's hot then you have an argument

@danielmclaren170890

7 жыл бұрын

does he even have a solo album? he dresses like I chick trying to be a guy or a guy trying to be a chick. that's fashion if you're trans

@kharis87

7 жыл бұрын

Daniel McLaren I agree his fashion is straight up fruity. That bull shit agenda he has to play into. But as a lyricist he is great......however he needs a real solo album to validate how great he really is.

Also, thank you, Justin, for showing up for Lupe Fiasco, THE most underrated and undervalued rapper ever no shit!

@hiphopdx

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!

@EagleZtoTheGrave

7 жыл бұрын

Yes sir

@-Anonymous-.

7 жыл бұрын

He never got the credit he deserved. 1 big reason is that Kanye overshadowed him. The lane Lupe was in during the 2000's Kanye was at the forefront, even though technically Lupe is a better skilled rapper. If the cool & food & liquor dropped today he would be more valued.

@maltherossel9348

7 жыл бұрын

If The Cool, Food & Liquor and Food & Liquor II were released by Kendrick today they would be hailed as some of the best albums ever.

@-Anonymous-.

7 жыл бұрын

Malthe Rossel very true man. & kdot has a very similar cadence to Lupe when it comes to his approach on records with deeper/in depth meanings, & hidden messages.

"I went to the hat store and bought a new hat" #fire

@MrSunShadows

7 жыл бұрын

REKANIZE TV lol #fire

@unsubscribe4694

7 жыл бұрын

REKANIZE TV Donald glover

@strangerde2709

6 жыл бұрын

BARZ

Does Jude really think in 10 years were gonna look back at TPAB and say "nah that albums stale now"? or even GKMC?

@melsotelo5109

7 жыл бұрын

Billy, From the Produce Section well from those albums he's probably only heard M.A.A.D city, poetic justice,alright,and king kunta. as he's said he hasn't actually listened to most of his catalog

@carterh3182

7 жыл бұрын

Mel Sotelo He said last video he listened to TPAB. But you're probably right about GKMC.

@jacobrobinson8310

7 жыл бұрын

Billy, From the Produce Section He never heard the albums in their entirety. So he wouldn't know.

@luistorres8005

7 жыл бұрын

Billy, From the Produce Section that dude didn't even hear them, he also says he doesn't listen to hip hop anymore. This guy's opinion on this means shit.

@Beamboy555

7 жыл бұрын

Billy, From the Produce Section yes. In the same way 2Pacolypse is stale. No comparing Pac to Kendrick because Pac is on another level but without a doubt Kendrick will bring out some better shit than gkmc. It's the same way as looking at eminems albums the Slim Shady LP is stale and not as good because of the MMLP. It goes for every rapper with a buzz don't think kendricks an exception because your basically saying he won't make anything better

i love jude and justin together there should be more collabs with him

@hondafan163

7 жыл бұрын

thanks

"Ain't no best." - Nas

@saul_goodman3932

4 жыл бұрын

Nah there's a best

@hbkashhh3452

4 жыл бұрын

Nas is the best

@saul_goodman3932

4 жыл бұрын

@@hbkashhh3452 I disagree I think nas is overrated because of illmatic and ether

@shady8045

3 жыл бұрын

true but that doesn't mean there aren't various degrees of good and bad, i personally would characterize quality as whether it succeeds its artistic intention and how well those appeal to me (ie a feel good song that makes you feel good or a horror core song that makes you scared, or a political song that has good thoughtful messages ) how creativity it is and the influence those innovative decisions had on the medium as a whole, the difficulty of the craft (which is why i respect a lot of "lyrical miracle" rap despite it being a pretty saturated sub genre). 2 and 3 in particular are the most concerned with technically ability like rhyme and flow while for the most part all 3 is relevant to the lyrics themselves. for example Kendrick Lamar's best albums hits each criteria the hardest, exceptionally innovative with extremely unique flows and production (especially in TPAB), compelling in its message, and technically proficient, and those are considered some of the best albums of all time. same with a lot of the other "goats" like Nas and big, both succeeded at what they were trying to do in each song compellingly, wrote their songs in a difficult way that required wit, and innovated the genre. even some sound cloud rappers occasionally meet some of these marks and honestly good for them (granted plenty don't, looking at you lil Xan).

@saul_goodman3932

3 жыл бұрын

@Mathematics em,jay,mf doom,all of the wu tang, outkast, etc

Black thought is mad underated

@stephen214

4 жыл бұрын

This comment is on EVERY debate video and gets LOADS of appreciation... just saying

@mattsak3338

4 жыл бұрын

2020Ave facts. He def gets respect. 15 year old me 3 years thought he has underrated bc he is underrated in younger demographics.

@stephen214

4 жыл бұрын

@Matt Sak fair mate

@zachyboi7293

3 жыл бұрын

He's not consistent

I'd listen to this as a Spotify podcast. Thoughts?

@Ghost_Nava

7 жыл бұрын

MIkkoBaffo Jude use to have a podcast but contractually with Siriusxm he can't do podcasts

@cordellboss

7 жыл бұрын

MIkkoBaffo since when does Spotify have Podcasts?

@drivmwempozv4445

7 жыл бұрын

MIkkoBaffo FUCKING AGREED

@MIkkoBaffo

7 жыл бұрын

Immortal Vegan In the UK if you pay 9.99 a month you have access to podcasts.

@MIkkoBaffo

7 жыл бұрын

EddyNaVa76 is that so? That's a shame

Mos Def always get left outta the GOAT conversations. He's mosdefinetly Top5. No doubt.

@ameensimmons4626

7 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Butler these people don't know!!!!!!!

@Ghuttora7

7 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Butler Blackstar Respiration with Common is voted as one the best hiphop written tracks of all time.

@tonyschimmoeller4439

7 жыл бұрын

Love Mos but I'd say Black Thought and Pharoahe Monch deserve top 5 before Mos.

@MR_RAVEZ

7 жыл бұрын

How is Mos Def is Top 5? He's a dope Emcee but I wouldn't put him Top 5 or even Top 20

@ameensimmons4626

7 жыл бұрын

his ability plus the impact of his music and all his music holds up and btw he killed every feature he was on .....

GOAT rappers people never mention: Big L.

@lultimmsrevolver

7 жыл бұрын

Doom Santana he died so young

@alphaamigo9688

7 жыл бұрын

Doom Santana Big L could have definitely become the GOAT, or at least one of the GOATs, had he not died so young.

@wm_9640

7 жыл бұрын

Doom Santana doesn't have a catalog

@lulujones

7 жыл бұрын

Big L - 2 classic albums, not in the conversation Biggie - 2 classic albums, in the conversation...okay

@Belowone

7 жыл бұрын

Elrond Hubbard exactly!!

Can we please stop sleeping on Big Boi? I think it is so disrespectful how people are quick to mention Andre, but Big Boi has had plenty of individual success with Sir Lucious Left Foot, I would say that album will go down as a classic. Its so slept on and the experimentation of Vicious Lies and Dangerous Truths that was not as good as Sir Lucious, but to see Big Boi step out of his comfort zone working with Phantogram. Big Boi is just not another rapper and I LOVE 3K, but please do not sleep on Big Boi.

My top 10: Pac, Biggie, Rakim, Big Pun, Eminem, Kanye, Jay Z, Kane, Nas and Wu-Tang

There is a reason everyone gets compared to Pac. He seems to tick every box, other rappers do certain things better but he is too hard to ignore.

@gh0rochi363

6 жыл бұрын

PreparedDeath how does he tick all boxes? I like Pac but bars wise he's lacking. He says nothing amazing. Good beats but that's the producers and sound engineers. Not even the most original in flow nor subject matter. He s a good rapper. If He s your favorite dope but that doesn't make him the goat

@tupacshakur3745

6 жыл бұрын

taaj howell Brenda's Got A Baby, California Love, To Live And Die In LA, Runnin, 2 Of Americaz Most Wanted, All Eyez On Me, Ambitionz Az A Ridah, Ghetto Gospel, Dear Mama, I Get Around, Keep Ya Head Up, Only God Can Judge Me, Hit Em Up, How Do U Want It, Hail Mary, Me Against The World, and hundreds and hundreds more. Yeah forget that he ain't talented

@Dubz9Ball

6 жыл бұрын

taaj howell I agree

@jjocto

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck tupac

@Anthonydu01630

4 жыл бұрын

taaj howell i always find it funny when people says yes he has good beats but its the producer and sound engineers work ... Of course but who fucking choosed the beat man ??? Eminem whad the best producer in the world but most of his beats are wack, beats selection are one of the quality of a rapper. Drake, Lil wayne and kendrick are very good for that that's why their music almost always sound good to the ears, choosing a beat that will fit you well is a skill

Mixtape weezy Lil wayne was unmatched because of his constancy and quality output. Not to mention his cultural relevance, he's arguably one of the most influential to do it. So many different dope flows, def my top 10 all time. Sad that ppl downplay his career when he unarguably ran hip hop for 4 years...

@alexsar4852

6 жыл бұрын

Sofonias Habtemariam Wayne GOAT!!

@whoodyGPonder-fj6hq

5 жыл бұрын

I agree

@saul_goodman3932

4 жыл бұрын

Nah wayne is super successful but I don't put wayne in top 10 maybe top 20

FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONED ROYCE DA 59

@MFSGamePlay

7 жыл бұрын

Andrea Cusanno right. too bad he doesn't want the success. well, to me he doesn't.

@jaycee598

6 жыл бұрын

Royce da Bomb

@tupacshakur3745

6 жыл бұрын

Andrea Cusanno yeah seriously he is pretty fucking good

@bourkupine1281

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's one of the only people who can do better than Eminem on a song

@stephen214

4 жыл бұрын

@Andrea Cusanno 3 years ago... You wait for his 2018 and 2020 releases!! 🔥🔥

at 25 pac had the whole country ready for war. nobody in the history of rap made you feel the way pac did. pac is goat period

@ItsValWow

5 жыл бұрын

Andre better

@joelclark2183

5 жыл бұрын

Think that's debateable but okay.

@ItsValWow

5 жыл бұрын

Joel Clark Andre is better than Pac imo

@joelclark2183

5 жыл бұрын

@@ItsValWow No I do too I was just replying to the first guy. Andre better easily, Pacs influence was massive but he has a mediocre discog. All Eyez On Me is the most overrated Classic OAT

@ItsValWow

5 жыл бұрын

Joel Clark FAX! Pac still a legend thi

I went to the hat store and got a new hat.

@Gemini050788

7 жыл бұрын

Donald Glover lol

@sebastianflorero8699

7 жыл бұрын

sillypenta Donald glover!

@JT-Barney

7 жыл бұрын

"I went to the hat store today and I bought myself a hat, ahaha!"

@dohboy200

6 жыл бұрын

fire

@DavidSmith-iz8fw

5 жыл бұрын

13:49 hahahaha

THE TOP TEN HAS TO BE: 1)2Pac (he had TOTAL control and mastery of the people) 2)A Tribe Called Quest (a group but hip hop nevertheless) 3)Scarface 4)Biggie 5)Rakim 6)MF DOOM and all his other aliases 7)Kendrick Lamar (this is because his lyrics are poetry in motion) 8)Ice Cube (wrote a lot of albums, songs and is a fucking genius in general- also has the BEST dis track in the WORLD) 9)Nas 10)Aesop Rock (personal favorite of mine) THE BEST YOUNG RAPPER OF ALL TIME (not hip hop, but rap in general) DIZZEE RASCAL *drops mic*

GOAT list for me: 1. Pac 2. Eminem 3. Nas 4. Biggie 5. Kendrick Lamar 6. André 3000 7. DMX 8. Jay Z 9. GZA 10. MF DOOM

@divinericks68

6 жыл бұрын

ODG I agree with this list

@clamp202

5 жыл бұрын

bleachlover 2000 3 stacks the goat bro

@Anthonydu01630

4 жыл бұрын

Loool, GZA, MF DOOM 😂 Nobody listen that shit man cmon ... You cant put underground rapper on a GOAT list, they dont have influence, they dont have cultural relevance .. If they are not famous is because they arent good, period. They can be amazing lyricist but rap is not only that but also flow, voices, delivery, charisma, energy, beat selection !!!

@Anthonydu01630

4 жыл бұрын

Were is Wayne ? Were is Kanye ? Were is Drake ? Were is fucking snoop dogg ? Biggie had 2fucking album in his career how can you put him ahead of Jay-z when he has 14number 1album and 22grammy ??? When he has 3classic and 6others very good albums ???? And lil wayne is the most influencial, original, creative and productive rapper ever, like it or not its a fact so if he isnt in your top 10 you are biased.

@shady8045

3 жыл бұрын

here is mine 1.kendrick 2.biggie 3. mf doom 4. Jay z 5. Black thought 6. Rakim 7. Eminem 8.pac 9. Andre 10. Nas

Pac, Kendrick, Jay-z, Lil Wayne, Nas

@kevinlos8231

7 жыл бұрын

Fernando Harris I'd have to give it up to this list

@alexsar4852

6 жыл бұрын

Fernando Harris Lil Wayne GOAT!!

@saul_goodman3932

4 жыл бұрын

Lil wayne😭

@goat9283

3 жыл бұрын

Hater

@gkay8889

3 жыл бұрын

Get Pac out and we straight

I love when Justin and Rude Jude have these convos.

Lupe Fiasco. No other rappers are making concept albums like Tetsuo & Youth, intertwining social issues, spirituality, cartoons and video games seamlessly. You can put 'Mural' against any other rapper's best song. He makes conscious songs over trap beats. Not to mention the Michael Young History epic. He's great by any measure of a rapper, wordplay, flow, metaphors allusions, couplets etc...and DROGAS Wave is on the way. Just my two cents..thank you guys for making this video for the culture.

@momo-ht2oe

6 жыл бұрын

Emmanuel D. Mural is in the top 3 of my favourite song. 1 The Great Gig In The Sky: Pink Floyd 2 March to the Sea: Twenty one pilots 3 Mural: Lupe Fiasco

1. Eminem 2. Biggie 3. Pac 4. Pun 5. Weezy

At the end of the day, who is "THE GOAT" is all subjective, it really doesn't matter who is considered the greatest and who isn't

@thedondon911911

7 жыл бұрын

Leo this is the most ignorant comment I've ever read about hip hop

@JensenAugustin

7 жыл бұрын

thedondon911911 Explain to me what was ignorant about what I said?

@giornogiovanna845

7 жыл бұрын

thedondon911911 Yes...Do explain how what he said is ignorant....Cuz my G.O.A.T is Biggie

@tendo824

7 жыл бұрын

Bernard Gilkes Mine is Biggie too...

@jovonj4010

7 жыл бұрын

biggie is mine too. Then Nas...Then ghostface.

The old guy is like the kid who just puts swear words into all of his sentences to sound cool

@alahnatrevejo1471

7 жыл бұрын

Bo Underwood that's rude Jude your dumb af he's cool

@karmadelivery4407

7 жыл бұрын

Arsenal K Already did it ,I punch my laptop everytime some elitist old head bullshit comes out of his mouth

@Dank_Dank

7 жыл бұрын

Facts! reminds me of those "kool" hispanic/white kids from my 2nd grade class in 2004

@chronicpack4884

7 жыл бұрын

So true

@oktaperdana9414

7 жыл бұрын

Wtf ? Rude jude got rep, man.. who do you think put him in this show ? It's eminem

Wassup hiphopdx I'd rather you debate with a dude that's not so bias to music he obviously doesn't listen to .. Kendrick Lamar is arguably one of the greatest period , I noticed he never said anything when you brought up Wayne .. how could you not recognize Wayne skills,, innovation, impact on hip-hop , even Scarface who he was dickriding so much said Wayne is one of the greatest of all time ... Use that quote in the next show ... please debate with someone more like yourself .Who's more objective and introspective

That point about the old heads at the start is so good. People who are underrated in the GOAT convo, Lupe, DOOM, Andre, Big L, Big Pun, Kool G Rap, Chuck D, Black Thought, Canibus and Scarface. Obviously the more common ones, Nas, Big, Pac, Em, Rakim, Kendrick, Jay Z are very good too.

If Kendrick was spitting the same bars in the 90s everyone would look back and say he was the goat.

@ave383

7 жыл бұрын

Duck San no they wouldn't. go back And listen to Twista pun Busta Das efx etc then get back to me. A few months ago he wasn't even better than drake that just dropped a Trash album being heralded as his best work. kdot dropped a solid album and that not only catapulted him passed drake it shot him passed all emcees before him? That's weird

@kbtitan2464

7 жыл бұрын

Duck San Kendricks been always better than Drake...get the fuck outta here

@ave383

7 жыл бұрын

East 99 is a classic that I always think of. It is magical. If you haven't heard aquemeni* treat yourself. I still haven't heard southerncadillacmusic blah blah blah. I can't take the critic's serious especially from the golden era. They were haters on some level. How the hell does stillmatic have a 69? Fuck no. Ether,rewind,poison, one mic,2nd childhood, got yourself,my country,what goes around,smoking,rule, the song they removed because Mary jay didn't want to get caught in between their beef. I believe they were biased in favor of jay z and that effected nas. There is no logical reason for that album to rated so low then we fast forward and Kendrick is so high. I can guarantee you if Kendrick dropped in the 90s hell have less acclaim. Don't think so. Look at what eminem went through with benzino. Look at what I described with nas. Look at what outkast went through in the middle of the death row bad boy hype. Pun said it the best "With both hands take off my drawers And jerk me like the Source Awards". If you're going to discuss acclaim and publication fairness can't be overlooked. The grammy robbed Kendrick Remember. He lost to Macklemore.

@tropical9913

7 жыл бұрын

ave383 that Kendrick album is so hard overrated. I would give it a 5/10 idgaf. Boring ass music to listen to. GoodKidMaadCity is his only classic album, because all the songs are individually great.

@2pacobama626

7 жыл бұрын

False. You clearly are young and have a rap iq of zero. Rappers like AZ, Raekwon, KRS, BONE THUGS, TWISTA, BustaRhymes etc were rapping in multi syllabic cadences back then and that complexity in rhyme schemes didn't automatically entitle them to being called "The Goat" without a catalog and skill set to warrant it.

We are talking a time, when gangsta rap had emerged with the rise of N.W.A and Suge Knight’s Death Row. In a time when men were judged by what size gun they were carrying, Tupac was a man whom everyone respected despite his emotional bent of mind. He was the leader that Eminem could not be.

Lupe fiasco's hip hop saved my life was a great 3rd party song... words I've never said was so socially great... but 2pac was so great and makes you feel something great every time.

I think it's almost impossible to determine the best rapper of all time...u can't do it without discrediting other rappers, is it Pac??What about the other cats from the 90's illmatic, ready to die don't count?What about LL cool J,Slick Rick, KRS or Rakeem(80s rappers) who came way before Pac(or any other 90s rapper) What about Eminem,3k,MF or even Kendrick(99-10s rappers) HipHop changes and evolves. sounds different every decade. How do we determine this,skill or Discography?

@tropical9913

7 жыл бұрын

iMoose you simply can't crown a hip-hop artist as the greatest. impossible. it's not like pop or reggae, where you can easily say Michael Jackson & Bob Marley are the goats.

@UltimateDrDoom

7 жыл бұрын

Tropical99 Oh. I wasn't aware one specific genre isn't quantifiable where the rest are.

@moose2066

7 жыл бұрын

Tropical99 yeah that's what I said

@thedondon911911

7 жыл бұрын

iMoose it's about having common sense and not being biased

@K0sm1cKid

7 жыл бұрын

Everyone is biased about music. It is purely bias. haha

Jay Z- for the success Eminem/Lil Wayne- for the worldplay Lupe- for the intelligence Tupac- enough said Twista/Biggie- for the flow Outcast/Bone/Wu Tang- best groups Kanye- great production

@radagastthebrown5025

7 жыл бұрын

Darkeith Lofton lil wayne ? who shit in ur brain? (freestyle for scale)

@alexsar4852

6 жыл бұрын

Radagast The Brown lil Wayne The GOAT bitch!!

@djandreatkinson8671

5 жыл бұрын

Jay z is the goat

@ninadganore

5 жыл бұрын

@@radagastthebrown5025 wayne is the goat

@420speedweed

3 жыл бұрын

eminem and wayne's wordplay arent anything special

Eminem is like Jordan when he went to the Washington Wizards. too many lackluster performances done fucked his stats up and left it open for someone else to be considered the GOAT

@jordanrobinson8572

7 жыл бұрын

Jimmi Pynk 🤔🤔🤔 are you stupid or should I appreciate your wrong opinion. 🤔🤔🤔 joking thanks for telling us what you where thinking.

@JimmiPynk

7 жыл бұрын

learn to spell before you come for me darling, it's were not where.

@thclanavenger

7 жыл бұрын

Jimmi Pynk he came back and claimed the title without claiming it but honestly redman is the shit

@KiddsWorldEntertainment

7 жыл бұрын

Jordan Robinson " Wrong opinion" you just lost all credibility

@jordanrobinson8572

7 жыл бұрын

Controversial Radio I couldn't give two shit's.

"I can" on Gods son is one of the best rap songs of all time

I love these dudes and really dig their banter/chemistry. Justin Hunte I appreciate what you doing, keep it up bruh

Personal preference in no order Nas, HOV, 3 stacks, K Dot, Biggie, Tupac, and Wayne. Could say any of these on any given day

@jedmyth

7 жыл бұрын

NewNinetys Tha Carter 2, 3 and 4 not to mention any of his mixtapes. And this is from a guy who also had countless memorable features. Biggie had two of the best albums in rap at that time. As far as straight spitting no one did it better. I don't think he is the GOAT but the way he was able to impact society in such a short amount of time gives him more than a reason to be in the top 5

@desolatesouls3040

7 жыл бұрын

What do you think about Big Pun?

@alexsar4852

6 жыл бұрын

NewNinetys lol Wayne is The Greatest..

@4neumann

5 жыл бұрын

@@desolatesouls3040 'scuse me for blunt but i been eating cunt since pimps was pushin pink caddies wit the fishtank pumps These kids dumb as fuck. Drake an entertainer, not a rapper. Wayne ain't close to top 20. Pac a poet, and no disrespect, but no top 5. Check the fucking Big ghost chronicles softest in the game for a good laugh.

@ninadganore

5 жыл бұрын

@@4neumann wayne the goat, Drake one if the goats

"Latest is greatest" is a cancerous mentality in hip hop. Smh. We're the only music genre where our "greatest" changes every 5 years. I can't stand that shit.

Lil Wayne has everything. Great bars, great commercial success, never had a bad verse, he created mumble rap, doesn’t hesitate to get out of his comfort zone and sound like today’s rappers and still spit fire. I don’t think anyone can match Wayne.

It's a fact that Tupac was super influential and still is even now so much later

you know you're old when you refer to people as "cats"

Love the dynamic but you can't argue with a guy that "no longer listens to rap".

I think both guys bring up great points. My ways of classifying someone a goat is from: 1. Influence 2. Critical Acclaim 3. Consistent Prime 4. Relevance 5. Commercial Success

"Drakes the most overrated rapper" You just earned a subscription and a like my friend.

Top 10 1.) Nas 2.) 2pac 3.) Eminem 4.) Kendrick Lamar 5.) Lil Wayne 6.) Kanye 7.) Biggie 8.) Ice Cube 9.) Jay Z 10.) J Cole

@ninadganore

5 жыл бұрын

Wayne higher

Whoever has a ghost writer They can't be the GOAT TALKING ABOUT DRAKE

@shauncameron8390

5 жыл бұрын

Yet you'll hypocritically claim Kanye as one.

@radiationbacon

3 жыл бұрын

@@shauncameron8390 & Kendrick! Drake's highkey a bum but tbf everyone's dips their toe in ghostwriters usually. It's like steroids in pro sports, dark secret that everyone's on

@lulanononwo6276

3 жыл бұрын

Thay goes for Kanye can't be in no conversation either

My Top 5: 1- Lil Wayne, 2- 2Pac, 3- J.Cole, 4- Eminem, 5- B.I.G.

There's no GOAT. It's almost impossible to have an actual GOAT.

@thedondon911911

7 жыл бұрын

Hugo Hakvoort yes there is a goat, you're just too lazy to argue

@HugoHakvoort

7 жыл бұрын

I don't think you could really have a GOAT, you never know, there may be some really, really underground rappers who are technically better than a Biggy or an Eminem. Lyrics wise, a suburban white kid will relate more with a rap about partying and smoking weed than a rap about shit going on in the hood and about the relation between for example black Americans and the police. So even lyrically you can't really say the one is better than the other. Hip hop doesn't even need to be political, it wasn't in the late 70s and early 80s atleast. Yeah, I think a track with some well thought political lyrics is better than one about fucking 'bitches' even though I can't really relate with it, but even that is pretty opinion based. For example, a lot of people label Eminem as the GOAT, but for me in my personal opinion he wouldn't stand a chance because I really just like people like Nas or Kendrick more in the overall picture, even when Eminem is amazing technically and lyrically.

@tupacshakur3745

6 жыл бұрын

I agree more or less. Everyone has their own strengths, it's really hard to compare artists.

@Dubz9Ball

6 жыл бұрын

Tupac Shakur it’s all opinion at the end of the day you jus have to state ur case for who u like. No right or wrong answer

@aaronkeenan2552

5 жыл бұрын

Lionel Messi

Ice Cube was the first rapper to release albums in consecutive years.

@terrenceperkins5282

4 жыл бұрын

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@KtotheG

4 жыл бұрын

@@terrenceperkins5282 I guess you didn't watch the video.

@420speedweed

3 жыл бұрын

thats not even true though rakim and big daddy kane did that before cube

2pac. Andre 3k... two of the greatest if all times!

That first caller hits it BANG on. "You are not the greatest if we can tell the story of Hip Hop without you"

Watching the end of this makes me think you should do a Breakdown piece about overshadowed greats, those that are collaborative and/or in groups. Big Boi is an example of a group and Royce is an example because of early AND recent collaboration with Eminem. The mention of Black Thought was also interesting.

"IS THERE A HEAVEN FOR A BALLER"?- Tu Pac (Only Fear of Death) one of the coolest phares ever in rap

Dude said hes unfamiliar with all of Kendrick's work then not 2 mins later says, "you can't say whose the greatest and not know all his shit." I know they're not talking Kendrick specifically but its kinda funny thats what started this convo

pac had 5 albums at his death 3 out of 5 being classics and the other albums still had classic material I love pac

@acenturyofblackmusic1655

7 жыл бұрын

Four classics

@districtlump1086

7 жыл бұрын

Bmore24 t 5 classics,if you really really listen, Pac dropped jewels in every line

@Christopher._M

7 жыл бұрын

2 classics

@bmore24t56

7 жыл бұрын

true

@bmore24t56

7 жыл бұрын

2? no he had 3

Rakim is the 'G.O.A.T.' PERIOD!

@terrenceperkins5282

4 жыл бұрын

Nah only 2 ablums

The Source pissed me off when they gave '93 'Til Infinity 3 1/2 mics. That shit was an instant classic in my eyes.

Wayne had 80 features in one year and took over a solid 4 yrs who else can do dat 🤔🤔

@nitsujneal

7 жыл бұрын

David E he da 🐐

@thehound3582

7 жыл бұрын

2Coo 2kJunky HHQHAAHHAHAHAHAHA

@kevinlos8231

7 жыл бұрын

David E wtf Wayne ruled for more than 4years

@disobayent

6 жыл бұрын

93-96 Pac > No mixtape shit either..

@ninadganore

5 жыл бұрын

6-7 years at least

Articulation, wittiness, cadence, motivation, wordplay, record making, and creativity does "The G.O.A.T" make.

@demetricesrkidd7256

3 жыл бұрын

Pac

I generally base artists off of specific talents. There's no goat for me, just goats of certain categories. For example, Big Boi is my goat of flow, Andre 3000 for lyrical talent, Jay Z for class and relevance of culture, Eminem for rhyming, Nas for the perfect mix

@demetrelontos1359

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t saying nas has the perfect mix basically just mean he’s the best of them all

@lightVs.DarkBalance

3 жыл бұрын

@@demetrelontos1359 It's true honestly Nas has a balance of everything that makes an Emcee. He's completely all around and pretty much always puts out quality work.

Pimp C also sang his ass off on them hooks too boi!!!

1. Eminem2. Nas3. PAC4. Biggie 5. Rakim6. Jay Z7. Kendrick8. Kanye west9. Dmx10. Dr dre

@Truthouzndonthate

7 жыл бұрын

The Notorious Makaveli Dre? As a producer of course, as a rapper (over Cube, Quik, Kurupt, etc...) never

@regulatorsmountup4931

7 жыл бұрын

Dre is not a rapper

@ninadganore

5 жыл бұрын

Kanye does write shit

@ninadganore

5 жыл бұрын

Lil wayne the goat

This is the most influential discussion on Hip Hop and Rap that I have ever watched. Hands down.

my top 10, with a loose order, easy to switch around nas andre 3k jay-z pac scarface biggie rakim kendrick em MF DOOM if any of you think i'm missing anyone, tell me

@RickyMud

7 жыл бұрын

Matt Traverso Aesop

@meeksman2488

7 жыл бұрын

I mostly agree

@rockster0192

7 жыл бұрын

DJ quik,

@Laurie12SlimShady

7 жыл бұрын

big l, big pun, wu tang, redman all better than biggie and scarface imo but it's all preference

@jordanrobinson8572

7 жыл бұрын

Arsenal K he's tries to be corny on purpose he does it so people like you say shit like that. it's what makes his career 😂

2pac

De La Soul needs to digitize their catalogue, no one owns cd players anymore. They're missing out on a lot record sales.

Love these convos. Usually agree more with Justin but I appreciate Jude just as much. You two are really entertaining. One thing I'd ask Jude is if he really expects Kendrick's last 4 projects to not stand the test of time. For example, I can confidently say that To Pimp a Butterfly will go down as the greatest album of the 2010's, as well as one of the best of all time. It's changed music a mere three years after its release, and has inspired/influenced people outside of the hip hop community from David Bowie to Kasmani Washington. I really don't see us 20 years from now going "man, what were we thinking. That project wasn't that good".

They say I'm rappin' like BIG, Jay, and 2pac Andre 3000 where is Eryka Badu at? Who that? Who that said they goin' beat Lil Wayne?

@ortiztheinfamous2771

7 жыл бұрын

Bass Boost Mobile my name ain't bic but I keep that flame

@Walruskinz

7 жыл бұрын

Bass Boost Mobile Wayne's probably 2nd for me overall and definitely top 10, possibly top 5 lyrically. People underrate a lot of Wayne's work, new and old.

@yesp9248

7 жыл бұрын

Bass Boost Mobile Weezy the G.O.A.T

@JohnDoe-tr1cx

6 жыл бұрын

Franklin Clinton Wayne ran the game for years, and brought out drake and minaj, who are now running the game. And this is from 2006 to 2017, over a fucking decade of tunchi!! Wtf did Wu Tang do?

@JohnDoe-tr1cx

6 жыл бұрын

Franklin Clinton Wayne has lyrics for days, look how big his fucking discography is! Not to mention he drops metaphors and punchlines in almost every single bar. He doesn't rap about the troubles of life as often as other rappers, but that's not all hip hop is for. And it's definitely not all people want to listen to. He does still get a couple of those in though. Listen to "trouble", "nightmares of the bottom", "mirrors", or the entire carter 3 album. He has lyrics, much more than people give him credit for.

Eminem is the goat, like seriously most records sold by almost double to any other rapper. Best lyricist by far he reads the dictionary for fun. Introduced many crazy new styles. Has been creating rap constantly since 88. All his music is catchy as fuck. He can freestyle better than anyone past or present maybe even future. He has the speed, he can rap faster than tech n9ne. His fluent words and fluent flow is unparralel and he was the first white boy who made it big and got accepted by another race into their territory. MGK Mac miller etc all can't rap for shit in my opinion compared to em they are nothing but dust. So there you have it in every category Eminem is untouched so stop saying he's not the goat just cuz of his skin color idiots. Andre 3000 in 2nd.

As much as I dislike Jude, I'll always watch anything with Justin Hunte in it.

Canibus, AZ, R.A. The Rugged Man, Locksmith, Elzhi. Extreme top tier lyricism. I'll also throw in Loaded Lux if we're talking sheer lyrical ability. And that's just to name a few.

Top 5: Big L, Black Thought, Lupe Fiasco, MF DOOM, Andre 3000 6-10: B.I.G, Nas, Jay-Z, Blu, Raekwon 11-15: Mos Def, Ghostface, Eminem, GZA, Tupac 16-20: Kanye West, Earl Sweatshirt, Chance The Rapper, Method Man, Q-Tip

only half way through, but I have to agree with Jude. Without knowledge of the entirety of hip hop, you cannot​ even be in a conversation discussing the GOAT. Some criminally underrated emcees (not GOAT status) are AZ, Rah Digga, Phonte, and Left Eye, yes Left Eye, go back and listen to Left Eye flow and then listen to pop Nicki Minaj, or Natina from Blaque. If you can't make educated comparisons you have no business even casting a vote in who the GOAT is. Great show so far. Can't wait to watch the rest!

@DarkMajava

6 жыл бұрын

Jimmi Pynk And now Gates is so damn close.

If you didn't know Lil Wayne was the G.O.A.T, now ya do.

1. 2Pac 2. Nas 3. Eminem 4. Jay-Z 5.Lil Wayne 6. Kanye West 7. Andre 3000 8. Rakim 9. Kendrick Lamar 10. Ice cube Top 10 in my opinion

@ninadganore

5 жыл бұрын

Lil Wayne higher

Az is so underrated he doesn't get mentioned in underrated conversations

PAC is always #1

@tupacshakur3745

6 жыл бұрын

I'm flattered

@deathitself6985

6 жыл бұрын

Tupac Shakur Dude plz

@benster62

5 жыл бұрын

I wish you could haha react KZread comments

@fromonelegendtoanother6404

5 жыл бұрын

I strongly disagree.

@ghettoasfuckxp

4 жыл бұрын

@@tupacshakur3745 never

Eminem, Nas, MF Doom, Gang Starr, WuTang, Pac, Biggie, Outkast, Kanye, Lupe Fiasco.

@RickyMud

7 жыл бұрын

LiveLife 101 all caps dude come on

@tomwitner874

7 жыл бұрын

LiveLife 101 all caps when you spell the man name

@naruto1coolestfan

7 жыл бұрын

the disrespect smh

@AlienFetus

7 жыл бұрын

people still talk Outkast like they're one person. Choose, nigga

@AlienFetus

7 жыл бұрын

also ALL CAPS

HipHopDX is a blessing to the hip hop community. They provoke great conversation.

you know what all these rapper's have in common. Nas, Jay, Z, Ghostface Killah, Outkast, Snoop Dogg, Warren G, Eminem, Tupac, Biggie Smalls... they all mentioned Slick Rick... you know who's picture is in Jay Z's book? Slick Rick. He had flow patterns man. first two albums. Great Adventures has a variety of flows. LL Cool J came out first but Slick Rick had brought the clarity to telling a story like how Scarface will tell clarity stories a few years later

Where is Lupe in the GOAT talk? These fools sleeping on Tetsuo and Youth but, Lu did say "Bumped into Doom the greatest rappers collide Everybody dead but AZ the greatest rapper survived I'm not the greatest rapper... the greatest rappers' a lie Got the same points as Lux the greatest rappers a tie, Chris said Common, Common said Kweli, Talib said I'm sure it's Mos Definitely"

I think this whole conversation would flow much better if Jude sat down a sec to listen to DAMN.

@nosrac3339

7 жыл бұрын

dio-03 GKMC* kendricks best hip hop album

@lovelyla85

7 жыл бұрын

dio-03 exactly !!!😔

@OtherworldlyMedia

7 жыл бұрын

Opinions on which album is best, or if the album is good, are relative, but Jude in no moment has actually heard the effin album. All his arguments are moot, cause he's just imagining what the album may or may not sound like.

@henrymccallion1986

7 жыл бұрын

DAMN is K-dots worst album

Pharoahe Monch deserves a mention. Underrated due to lack of material.

Jude saying “you can’t say who’s the greatest and not know peoples library” is exactly what he does lmao

@WillieEarlSon

Жыл бұрын

Yea I’m like bruh, also goats praised it

Nobody has a better Discography than PAC musically there ya go end of discussion

@TheDCbiz

7 жыл бұрын

Anthony G Kanye, Cube, Kendrick, and more have in terms of GREAT AND DIFFERENT DISCOGRAPHIES comparable even if Tupacs is iconic and talented

@anthonyg2889

7 жыл бұрын

TheDCbiz First of all Kanye don't write all his stuff so he's out the pitcure, Kendrick don't connect to the streets like PAC PAC was a voice to every hood and community,and Ice Cube is definitely better than Kdot and Kanye hands down I can't argue Ice cube

@TheDCbiz

7 жыл бұрын

Anthony G Strictly speaking discographies Kanyes and Kung fu kenny can compare with Pacs just how Michael Jackson's discographies can be compared with Beyonce's. All of these artists have multiple years of music that is significant to many people. To me personally Kanye isn't in the goat running since he is strictly an artist and not a rapper, he focuses on the artistry more like someone in a marketing department would.I like people, not just rappers, who write their own music but it doesn't disqualify anyone's greatness if they don't-can expect people to do it all y'know. I grew up post Pac, being born the same year he died, so I've had to have different rappers to relate to though you right. Pac could connect with sooooo many people in many ways. And Cube can't be ignored in this discussion-he does bring his a game I think he isn't only because he isn't trying to be the goat now-can't be the greatest if you haven't driven rap from the driver's seat in 20+ years. Pac is hard to beat but he personally ain't 1. he's in the top for me though

Na MC Serch did not pick beats on illmatic, it was Large Pro at the captain chair

AZ, Game, Lloyd Banks, Redman all underrated just to name a few

@shauncameron8390

5 жыл бұрын

Lloyd Banks is a poor man's Fabolous.

I think Kool Keith is extremely underrated. Sure, his discography is not all A+ material, but he also has like ~20 albums over FOUR decades. Always bringing interesting new concepts, the different personas, pioneered the horrorcore/sci-fi raps, not to mention being part of Ultramagnetic MCs. He can spit in several different styles, and is definitely not afraid to go completely left field which brings a lot of influence .

nas the greatest lyrical tupac the greatest hip hop artist

@universalboss8826

3 жыл бұрын

@Aaron9 hahhahaha biggest joke ever. Keep lissen to migos. Eberybody wanna BE PAC gtfo

@jackjax7921

3 жыл бұрын

@@universalboss8826 2pac is a glorified hypocrite.

Yes, I love anything with Justin.

this is better than everyday struggle , love how they let each other speak and acknowledge without interrupting

2pac is the G.O.A.T. In 200 years time, people will still mention Pac while every other MC in this present time will be forgotten. Mark my words.

Kendrick lacks cultural influence no ones walks around tryna be him or even sound like him...thats something Pac, BIG, Hov, wayne, Nas all had...

@JohnDoe-tr1cx

6 жыл бұрын

True

@gh0rochi363

6 жыл бұрын

Very true

@nezer993

6 жыл бұрын

True

@Minddofrobbie

6 жыл бұрын

U trippin....

@jcdx87

6 жыл бұрын

young city You couldn't be anymore wrong.

Funny how some people say Eminem isn't the best right now but nobody has the balls to diss him

@louisgregoire3927

7 жыл бұрын

If anyone had any reason to diss him he would be dissed. I wish he would do some shit so I could see a beef between him and anyone. A Kendrick Eminem beef would be the greatest beef of all time.

@mayorwest6911

7 жыл бұрын

Say What Again i Dare you i Double Dare you! He's not really relevant right now, no one has any reason to diss him, in his prime a lot of people didn't have the balls to diss him

@saywhatagainidareyouidoubl7698

7 жыл бұрын

Louis Gregoire no, have you seen how many people dissed him and he buried every single one of them, nobody in the right mind would try to diss him, just go watch the videos of Big rapper's saying you don't mess with Em

@channelx7761

7 жыл бұрын

Say What Again i Dare you i Double Dare you! You could say the same for 3000 and 3000 >>> Eminem

@saywhatagainidareyouidoubl7698

7 жыл бұрын

ChannelX Yes Andre is also the goat but even Andre said Em was one of the best so what you say about that?

If Jude became a rapper, I would be OK with that. Everything about him personifies a rapper. The glasses, Mr. Rogers sweater, receding hairline...pure gangster

These discussions are some of my favorite videos on youtube. Thanks Justin and Jude for being the two of the only cats around willing just see what the other one thinks about hip hop. RESPECK!

1. Biggie (the rapper's rapper) 2. Pac (hip hop's Marley/Lennon) 3. Nas (Illmatic.) 4. Rakim (Changed lyricism forever) 5. Eminem (first 3 albums were great, but fell off HARD) 6. Jay Z (Consistent and a good lyricist) 7. Big L (Greatest punchlines of all time) 8. Big Pun (Great flow) 9. Andre 3000 (Fantastic flow, great albums with OutKast) 10. Kendrick Lamar (Lyricism, Flow, Impact, Delivery, Quality of Albums.... He has it all. With time, he'll overtake Eminem in my list)

@cameroncurtis4697

7 жыл бұрын

Oh dear...

@tendo824

7 жыл бұрын

Cameron Curtis what?

@niccodirenzi4126

7 жыл бұрын

Respectable list. I feel its heavily 90s influenced. I Like your first 6 though. 7 and 8 (as amazing as they are) died but didn't do as much as your first 2 so ehhhhhhhh. Kendrick is getting there I aint mad at a 10 slot.

@tendo824

7 жыл бұрын

Nicco DiRenzi yeah I feel the same way about my list... Top 6 are set in stone for my list but the other 4 are changed practically every week 😅

@igli2pac

7 жыл бұрын

How did Eminem fell off... Hard? rofl I think he got better

Big Willie Style is a solid project still.

"I joke when I say I'm the best in the booth, but a lot truth said in gest" - Eminem

Lets define a bunch of categories like: Metaphors, punchlines, sales, rhyme schemes, fan base, cultural impact, conscious rap, gangsta rap, speed rap, number of albums, spotify plays, club songs, influence on other rappers, years active, battles, freestyles etc etc. Then score rappers 1-10 in each category, the rapper with the most totalt points = "the best". This is the only way we can try to be unbiased in this kind of discussions