Hi I enjoyed watching your video. I served 6 years of apprenticeship as a Joiner, and part of it was Roofing. the Joiner who was teaching me was in my second year, the whole roof was set out on the ground, after measuring from the wall plates, working from the building square, before we started off all the timber which was 3x2 75x50 as now, then each one was checked for the round (top of spar) the reason for this when the purlins were put on the spars as called was higher which made it easier to nail down, then 6inch nails, the Hips Valleys measured by using the building square, then all cut by hand, as you did with your jig we cut the pattern spar with a strap on both ends, All done by hand saw, how things have changed, now, of course, it's all pree made trusses. I was always grateful for that experience of learning to use the building square, I am now 82 years old and still remember most of it, all thanks to that Joiner. it's nice to see someone else now showing how to use the Building Square Regards welshman 2081

The first half of the kzread.infoUgkx3ICSK6nSknaL_45CU2NmFSoXjarGMDiJ book is everything about wood: types, tools, finishes, setting up shop etc. The second half is all about doing projects for inside and outside of the home. The color pictures are helpful. After reading a dozen of these types of books, this is probably the best overall (layout, color photos, plans). Only detraction is that many of the projects use a table saw/router/planer, which are usually expensive and take up space, so the plans are less friendly to newcomers and the budget conscious. But I know I can use a drill, circular saw or a jigsaw to make the projects.

I wish I had you tube back in my day. I was treated like shite during my apprenticeship I learnt how to roof using books I had read at college and using my common sense. When I finished my apprenticeship the first job I did was a Barn Hip! It was a chance for me to practice all the knowledge I gained. I was nervous but I completed it in half a day. This is an excellent video and explained very well. I wish I had a teacher like this when I was an apprentice. I hope this guy keeps educating people

71 year young still going strong carpenter from Oregon. I love watching how things are done in other places. I'm always learning and wish I had You Tube when I started. Very good well made straight forward video. Getting hips to align and plane out properly have always been a problem. We don't do hip framing to much anymore . I like the half lap joint on your top plate. I also like you using a framing square with a wood piece clamp to it. I also do that method. The newer generation is speed square this and speed square that, I like the framing square. I think you get a more accurate layout versus using stair clamps. I also like you using wider hip material. I use double 2x material. Its easier cutting your bevel and more importantly it allows better backing for nailing your roof sheathing. Some company needs to invent a mechanical hardware to make better connection for the top of the hip to the ridge. What species of lumber are you framing with ? Here in western US its primarily Douglas Fir. More engineered lumber products are now being used. Simpson Strong Tie hardware is the standard for framing hardware in the US, is it used in England ?Thanks for taking the time making the video.

The more I watch Robin the more I realise that he actually LOVES what he does. Small things like getting a kick out of eyeing in his newly cut hip with the rest of the roofline. Its very satisfying to see a lovely flat roofline especially if its got a lot going on.

I barely understood a bloody word of this, absolute rocket science. But I knew if I watched till the end it would all fit perfectly. Robin is a master of his craft!

@peterbell4154

3 жыл бұрын

Blimey! Dynamite pants you definitely didn't understand it if you thought that was rocket science no rockets were mentioned, any way this is timber and my understanding of rocket science is that if you build a rocket from timber the out come is not going to be good but that's only my opinion as I am not a scientist.

@peterbell4154

3 жыл бұрын

@R-77 REALLY not one bit no surely not.

@seymourscagnetti1413

3 жыл бұрын

ROBIN HAS CARPENTRY, YOU HAVE DYNAMITE UNDERPANTS. SEEMS TO ME YOU GUYS ARE EVEN.

@rightwingtrashrus274

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterbell4154 😂😂

@grahamturner6119

3 жыл бұрын

Every body uses trusses nowadays

This is 30yrs of invaluable knowledge paked into a 30 min video. As an ex tradesman I know how accomplished this man is.

Nice to see a craftsman building a “cut” roof, instead of installing a trussed roof, spot on

Big up to all the apprentice carpenters like me watching this so we can be better at roofing😂✊🏽

@ukconstruction

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching John, good luck with your career, well done for choosing such a great worthwhile job mate

@chriscoulson7684

4 жыл бұрын

If you get this as an apprentice, youl go far mate.

@androo357

3 жыл бұрын

Should watch Larry Haun videos as well. Both incredible teachers.

@trepbellafonte8598

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm doing. 👍👍

@harleeb9061

3 жыл бұрын

Thats what im doing robin makes it so clear

You cut a roof out better than some make a piece of furniture. You are so good at explaining certain things and I'm still learning every day after years on the tools.

When a bloke is good at his job it always looks easy. Very nice tight job mate!. A big thumbs up.

Immense. I got my 585 in '93 at Lime Grove - awesome teachers, awesome curriculum but got de-railed by computers and never practiced my craft. Now I need to cut a roof. Watching you work is a joy and when you cut the top bevel, blind, I laughed out loud. So good. Will probably need to watch this at least another 10 times but thanks. This is the dogs bollocks.

Think I have enough of Robin and Roger's video's to get me over this up and coming lockdown!!!!!!!!! Thanks guys!

I much prefer the 'Measure once, cut 7 or 8 times, f@~k it up, get another bit of timber, do exactly the same again, get pissed off, throw a tantrum while my wife tuts' method, but that's my personal choice. Robin goes to show how technical a roof is, most of it went over my head (if you'll pardon the pun), great video.

@donalso

3 жыл бұрын

the math is surprisingly easy and the satisfaction is big! Keep on truckin'

@robmarrin6720

3 жыл бұрын

Measure 8 time's cut once it takes me forever to do a job 😂😂👍

@troyb4533

3 жыл бұрын

Or pull a Larry gun and measure never and cut once

So, I'm a mechanical designer who can go back and forth with inches and millimeters but I'm also a carpenter and I never once gave a thought to using metric for cutting wood until now. Great video and high quality craftsmanship ...... absolutely enjoyable to watch. Thank you!

Top work gents. After a long week chopping wood, there's nothing like lying in the bath watching someone else do the work. Keep em coming guys.

What an absolute pleasure to watch!! Lovely to see a gent with so much skill and passion for his work. A great teacher for any apprentice this guy!!!

Great video as usual guys. A tip for you Robin that I discovered a bit ago and I noticed you don't do it on a previous video. When finishing the birds mouth with the handsaw, do the along the grain cut first followed by the cross cut, that way the grain keeps the piece in place whilst you finish off the cut making it neater and less likely to leave the little corner in there.

So precise in everything he does. Not everyone is a good teacher. I could work with Robin all day long. BTW name that tune ....don't mess with my toot toot?

Super video guys, wish we had all this gear when I was Young, I remember cutting a 9 x 3 purlin at 45° by hand, after scraping 1/4" of ice from it. and using an indelible pencil to mark it. (They don't know they're born these days Lol) Been retired 16 years now, but still enjoy doing a bit, although a lot lot slower, and enjoy watching true craftsmen.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Great video. Good to see someone using a proper roofing square and I love how you picked up the framing hammer tap tap tap, drop it and pick up the nailer boom! You are true craftsman robin. Kudos from Yorkshire

As a carpenter apprentice this kind of video is great to watch and learn from! 🔨🪚Keep up the great work on the videos 🙌 And thanks for putting out great content!

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Ive got a big herringbone floor to set out and with the help of youtube ive been learning about trammel points. Despite me not being a roofer, or a carpenter, to relax, ive just watched this video. Now iv'e got a proper headache! Nice one Robin, your the man!

Fantastic again👌 I would love to spend a month working with Robin. I've been in this game for 25 years and still absolutely love it but I could be taught a thing or two with this guy👍

The best tradesmen are the ones who genuinely enjoy there work

@donalso

3 жыл бұрын

Some days I just wanna go bang some nails. Bets the hell out of ice skating!

@TheCybertiger9

3 жыл бұрын

There were days i couldn't wait to get to the job site to do do something challenging like this. After i was done I just stood back a

This guy working is a thing of beauty

@ukconstruction

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe

Cracking work as usual Robin, I’m an improver cradle tee, and since watching a lot of your roofing videos it’s brought my skills on a lot. Keep them coming

@Rolly_the_camper

4 жыл бұрын

Carpenter 😂

Thats a brilliant method, I've been a carpenter for 16 years and never though of cutting a hip in like this.... fair play you'll never stop learning in this trade.... love it!!!

@joeframer9642

4 жыл бұрын

Ceiron Green carpenter or your a framer? “ carpenter “ is a general term, usually means finish work or handyman type person. Not someone who builds houses, or remodels for a living.

@mattryan1986

4 жыл бұрын

@@joeframer9642 The term carpenter has no relation whatsoever to a handyman

@ceirongreen1676

4 жыл бұрын

@@joes2318 I'm a carpenter mate. Fully qualified and very well trained thank you. I have always cut a hip in using a geometric method. I was pointing out that the method Robin has demonstrated here is a different way to how I've been taught.

@ceirongreen1676

4 жыл бұрын

@@joes2318 my mistake, apologies mate.

@chippyminton8711

4 жыл бұрын

Ceiron, On a small roof it's easy to measure the length of the hips as Robin did here, on a much larger roof I always made up a rod and attached it to a dummy hip foot/ birdsmouth and got the length of them like that. As for getting the height above plate I always measured the vertical dimension from the corner of the plate to the top of the common rafter, whatever that measurement is measure down the plumb cut of the hip and this will give you an identical height of the hip in relation to the common. This is in effect what Robin did but not sure he explained it exactly like that. Fair play to him for showing those without his experience, I wish these vids had been around in the mid 70s when I first entered the building trade, they are invaluable as a learning resource. Happy Roofing

I'll never pitch a roof in my life but I can't help but watch Robin teach. Always a pleasure to watch skilled people work! Thanks for another fantastic video.

Lovely. I really appreciate how you work and your passion!! I bet you were really pleased with that section of the off cut of the hip rafters looking perfect!

I would love to work along side robin for a day!! Absolute master at his craft.

The grand master Clevett . Excellent .

I love working, I could watch it all day. :)

I love watching this man work. Perfectionist

I'm an amateur at carpentry, learning the basics of site and bench joinery but i have to admit this video has given me more in depth knowledge, thank you.

I watch loads of Robin's videos and have been searching for a decent one on hip rafters. A lot of the videos are from tutors in a college environment and they do explain things well. Robin's delivery of knowledge and skill is exceptional though. You know you are at the top of your game when you can teach like this as if you were just making a cup of tea. You are credit to the industry but unfortunately inspire us DIY who will stuggle to convince the wife we can build her a bigger kitchen. Hat off to you sir, sincerely

@ukconstruction

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim that's a really kind comment, it's a simple formula just know your subject and love what you do!!!

@michaelbrandrick9594

4 жыл бұрын

Tim Wyld i had some decent tutors but they were old school joinery lovers. If only colleges had guys like Robin

Been making firewood for over forty years and it's lovely to watch someone else doing it right. Hate trusses, love cutting a roof. Thanks robin, nicely explained too!

I've never seen this done before but I find myself strangely fascinated by the whole process. You're a true craftsman sir.

just cant get enough of you guys! superb artists.

That was fantastic, absolute masterclass

Great method, lovely to see pride in work, i hope you have an apprentice looking over your shoulder

Hi Robin, I believe that I made a comment some time ago (before I had had my hair cut) and wasn't getting enough air to my brain, I wish to amend my comment it was to do with obtaining jack rafter diminishes the way I was taught back in the day when I had more hair! with the framing Square take the rise per ft run on the blade and the figure 12" on the tongue set to the edge of the timber and then mark and move 4" to the left the distance between the marks was the diminish of the jacks for 16" centres. I think I said move to the right in my comment. It all sounds a bit long winded now but it was quick at the time without calculators, actually I don't even think the wheel had been invented!!! Thanks again Robin for your site makes an old timer happy.

Nice pride in your work. If we could only find people like this in the USA I would hire them.

@TheToolnut

4 жыл бұрын

You can find the best carpenters in America in Boston, the Boston Irish, 👍 😁 🔨 🇮🇪

If I'm on my own putting up hip rafters, I nail a block onto the end of the 45 degree cut on the wall plate at the height of the up-stand then pick off the points with a straight length of timber, works great.

Wish I was 18 and working for you instead of 73 and listening, great info' - thanks

@yusufabdullah9858

4 жыл бұрын

Me too at 62. Would love to be perfect in doing rafters

@ukconstruction

4 жыл бұрын

Well thanks guys, I would have loved to work with you!!!

@bobatkinson2415

4 жыл бұрын

@@ukconstruction Same here mate. Why didn't you do this fifty years ago!

@peterbell4154

3 жыл бұрын

@@yusufabdullah9858 Don't let age stop you hasn't me I'm knocking on but still cutting and pitching roofs, keeps you young in mind just knackers your body!!!

@paulrumbold2436

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no you don’t 😀 , I’m 54 retired at 37 , I learnt to use roofing square at 17 . He uses the square with the blade and younger ass about face . I’ve cut thousands of roofs all with my square . Never met anyone on site who could use it as I can in my whole carrier .

9th degree red belt of wood working. I like the the zero % showboating. I salute you Sir.

@ukconstruction

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your kind comment, all the best Robin

My father me and my bro pitched our roof out of Oregon 35years ago my old man on the ground with his old alloy black and decker 9” with me and my brother on the roof yelling out measurements in metric my dad was converting it into imperial in his head. He knocked up his rafter and hip birds mouth temps and with his temps and bevel as we went around getting sizes to him he would throw numbered rafters and not a word of a lie I think we passed back about three sticks. By the time we were done you wouldn’t have been able to slide a business card in any 4 corners of any joint. He was an incredible builder but had a massive stroke 30 years ago now can’t talk he’s 84 but with all his ailments still manages to smile and be positive all day. Ive since blown my back out and can’t do much except look after dad but how I miss them days of being awe struck buy his knowledge and teachings cheers John from Australia 🇦🇺🍺👍

@SkillBuilder

4 жыл бұрын

A sad fate for somebody who worked hard and such a waste. It pains me to see able bodied people who can't be bothered to walk down the street.

@johnsweeney6072

4 жыл бұрын

Skill Builder thanks for that he’s still smiling and some days gets down the shed and strips wire that me or my brother get him and I’m guessing it helps his arthritis cause every time I look he’s got a strand of copper wire in his lips ha ha respect to you and thanks again 🇦🇺👍

A fella who knows what he's talking about, I could watch craftsmen like Robin all day.

Love these roof construction videos, really interesting. Well done robin and roger ! Would be good to see a video about lead roofing/lead welding. Cheers !

@kjw4519

4 жыл бұрын

@Phil The Messer yea, old school plumber like Rodger should be straight on it !

You're the type of carpenter I always wanted to be....Bravo!

Just wanna say it was an absolute pleasure watching this. Really great video

Genius .Love to spend a year or so with this guy

@eurotourcaddy

4 жыл бұрын

easy, Tiger

@ianthompson9058

4 жыл бұрын

@@eurotourcaddy 😂that gave me a bit of a chuckle 👍

@Jay-nw8jy

3 жыл бұрын

This guy is so calm. Framing with my grandpa he would've yelled at me for making too many marks for one cut. Learned from best. Lol

Just perfection and a joy to listen and watch

Been out of building trade 25 years now, I'm amazed to see how the power tools have changed. Nail guns were a recent invention in early nineties, big and awkward. Battery drills were mainly made by Walt Disney for Mickey Mouse. Only the well off tradesmen could afford such luxuries. Hammer and saw for the old boys and 110V gear. Used to have to lump half ton yellow transformer across site, then your lead an them stupid plugs. I knew of some plumber who accidentally came down from his steps, stood on a 110V plug that had been dragged to the bottom of his steps while up there and broke his ankle as the plug rolled under his boot. He was PAYE but I don't suppose his employer was too happy. Very good chippy work BTW. Keep the vids coming, I've just subscribed.

Brilliant videos. Everything is well explained. Thanks

We need more Capel.. Thats a facinating build.

All bases covered , end result spot on I miss the roofing 😁

Compound cut .....that take me back to my colleague days.. And my rod drawings...lol Real carpentry and joinery....,👍💯

Robin just came from a wee swim ar 22:00! I do really appreciate somebody else who also uses the original " cordless" saw(handsaw)!

an authentic craftsman

I have absolutely no idea what hes on about but damn, you are a knowledgeable bloke

Great video! More of this please. Robin how to vids. Never realised he had a tattoo either.. you learn something new every day

I love what you did... thanks for posting... I learned a lot!!!

I like to think I’m a fairly handy DIYer (I’m a qualified sparky so get to mix with most trades for tips etc) and I thought I’d have a go at doing the roof myself on a two story extension some years ago. After three sleepless nights trying to study a booklet entitled “Roofing Ready Reckoner” I gave up and called a roofer mate in to do it. Even helping him I couldn’t follow it. Wish you’d been around on you tube back then. Very under appreciated trade in my opinion. Ps. Absolutely loving this series and your presentation style. It’s like listening to a mate on site.

@ukconstruction

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate

@Spencerbuildsit

4 жыл бұрын

Go watch Rick Arnold's video. Best one out there

SOME GUY THEE ROBIN take care , stay well, cheers Mick,

Excellent video reminds me of some great tips I’ve been shown over the years from various blokes that had the time to show u a few things ... you allways remember who told u what tip or what job u got an idea off Very clear video and easy to watch and understand

Back in the 70’s I was working in Chertsey Surrey UK and used to spend my lunch times watching the roof restoration of a grade one listed 17th century two story house opposite. I was particularly intrigued on the method required for the cutting and fitting of the hip rafters (especially as they were all newly milled expensive English oak). After being measured and cut on the ground, I was astonished to see how well they fitted first time. (they needed to; it took three men to lift one!) Now I have some idea of how It was done, Thank you so much.

@SkillBuilder

3 жыл бұрын

The first hundred you do are the hardest but after that it is not so tricky.

Useful info, tks... I was going to build a garden shed with a pent roof.I might try a pitched roof now ... maybe... once it's safe to be outside.. .

@brucethomson3512

3 жыл бұрын

Always was. Smokescreen.

@throngcleaver

3 жыл бұрын

Russ and Bruce nailed it. (no pun intended)

Awesome skill, with simple tools! In America, we’d just keep cutting until the scrap falls out! I need a good hand saw to knock it out and finish the cut!

@Chaotician69

4 жыл бұрын

I use a wood chisel! 😜

@donzemanovic4205

3 жыл бұрын

My part of America we do it correctly

@tylerwalker5607

3 жыл бұрын

I pull the guard back and flip the saw upside down and vertical to finish plung cuts when possible

I’m a joiner but not done roofs for years ,nice to see the way you do it

I'm glad to see even a man of your expertise still looses their pencil. Feeling a lot better about myself

My head is hurting! Wish I could understand everything you were saying! It's a joy watching a professional who knows his subject so well!

I'm a 2nd fix guy and trying to become the full rounded carpenter .at the moment this stuff blows my mind but doing this day in day out is how he makes it look so easy

@garethheathcote4988

4 жыл бұрын

@lee Goodman I know all this but it still sounds confusing as hell when robins reeling it off. It's not as complicated as it sounds. Your best bet is to do a couple of roofs with a roofing capable joiner. I'd love to do a few roofs with robin as he is definitely more knowledgeable than me. 👍🙂

@krainey

4 жыл бұрын

I thought he did x good job of keeping it simple . The jack diminish a little tricky to grasp when someone is trying to talk you through it but it's like any carpentry job once you have done one or two & with, if your lucky a good tradesman that takes time and shows you his method

@garethheathcote4988

4 жыл бұрын

@@krainey yeah it made perfect sense to us because we already know it bud. 👍🙂

Awesome video, good seeing a craftsman at work,,,,,,i say this with experience as have worked in building game for 3 yrs

Love that you're using the hikoki gun. Great tools

Love it from New Hampshire USA Although we use inches & feet so keeping up with the math is a bit dodgie... 3rd generation builder 1st yr on my own after my father who's a master carpenter was diagnosed with laryngeal cancer losing his voice completely. Always looking to learn any new tricks or how others do the same thing with the same common end goal. Thank you 100 mate.

@sally6457

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously? Metric isn't hard, count your fingers, it's easier to shout 150mm rather than 5'' and 29/32,that actually took me 5 min to count and work out on a tape measure, in metric numbers go up its bigger, in imperial numbers go up its...smaller...and/or bigger? Your money is metric, I'm interested in why Americans are so against the metric system, am I missing something?

@michaellloyd463

4 жыл бұрын

@@sally6457 As a UK Carpenter, we use both measurements. Above a meter in size it sometimes gets tricky to communicate the size of cut needed in metric to who you are working with 87 inches is much easier to measure out on a tape than 2210mm. Trust me, the bigger the sizing the easier it is in Imperial.

@mikeraphone6745

3 жыл бұрын

I'm in the UK and still use feet and inches as that's the only way I want to know .still get my roofing square that way . Easy to make mistakes in metric . Why are doors 2'6" and 6'6" and ply 8' x 4' but plaster board 1200 x 2400 . Timber is sold by the cubic metre yet four by two or two by as it's called . I don't go shopping for 98mm x 48mm as that's the sawn size . Either one or the other . I'm use to the imperial size in timber but I do use metric for metal work . I would use a 12mm bolt with 1.25 pitch thread .

@leehaelters6182

3 жыл бұрын

@@sally6457, man is working from a plan called out in feet and inches, you expect him to first convert every call-out? Seriously?

@sally6457

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaellloyd463 so is accuracy not as important if it's big? On a UK tape measure the 1/16" marks stop at 1', while millimetre marks are the full length. I'm unfortunate enough to be a British 40 year old joiner, so I'm working in the middle, I have to know imperial to understand the older generation, and the modern world of construction is metric, So we are the generation that had to learn both systems and know how to convert one to the other depending upon who you speak to, Its all frustrating. But metric is easier! 😝 hahaha

Always love looking and learning and you are brilliant at explaining the process. When watching my mate do the roof he would sometimes clamp his Square set back and run the saw along it. Ensured he always cut a perfect straight line. Watching and learning from different people you really do learn a lot

Very nice to see, this man understands his job. Kind regards from Holland.

So complicated. Its amazing. Skill

First one of these I've seen. I used to teach remedial joinery to beginners. Bloody hell Robin you're on top of your game. Easy to follow, couple of points where if I was showing a class I would give a little more detail or try to use no jargon but probably many watching this are in the trade anyway. Great conversational style with your mate chipping in, just as someone said, "like making a cup of tea". I love the attention to detail; where the nails go through, propping out the bow on the hip, thinking of the bigger pic' not just the present cut you're doing. This level of ability comes with at least 40,000 hours of practice! A pleasure to watch.

@ukconstruction

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks from one Robin to another!!!

Brilliant! Like anyone who's mastered their skill, they make the complex look easy and make it appear easy enough that anyone could do this...although true, you do not achieve this knowledge and competency without years of commitment. Thank you Robin for sharing your skill!

@peterbell4154

3 жыл бұрын

I can make easy look complex that's hard to do!!

Memorising to watch beautiful job with so many cowboys out there it's nice to watch a true tradesman. Thumbs up.

These type of videos youse do is great and good advice for the audience watching

Such a delight to watch a true craftsman at work. So enlightening. Thank you!

Fantastic, I’ve always wanted to see how this is done. Beyond my skills but great to see.

@kashmir08

4 жыл бұрын

Что здесь фантастического?в России любой мужик знает как собрать яндовое примыкание

Robin you did a great job and a great explain 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍

I think this lad could teach anything, absolutely superb mate thank you for sharing your knowledge.

This guy is extremely informative and entertaining.

Mans a "GENIUS"

I do love watching roofs built properly. If Ben I wasn’t a bricklayer I’d wanna be a trad roof builder. 👌

Good bit of engineering there sir. I spent some 30 years detailing structural steelwork and was the only draughtsman who could fully understand hips and valleys and how to detail these.

As an old Spread with 40 plus years under my belt, I have to say I was riveted watching Robins master class.Aways a joy to watch another trade and how they go about their business.Any apprentice would be fortunate indeed to be coached by such a craftsman.

Robin "Pythagoras" Clevett......... Fantastic

And that folks is how it should be done the best at work thanks for this .

Yeah he's a real Professional great work

Lost me at 6 minutes but I’m going to stick with it. Thanks again for another amazing tutorial!

@SkillBuilder

4 жыл бұрын

Watch it three times and we are sure you will be on it. Robin didn't pick this up in one day.

@SkillBuilder

3 жыл бұрын

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Knock me down with a feather Did I hear Roger mention HAP Top of the class pal he’s bang on it’s not what you cut out but what you leave on to account for slight variations in rafter size ⭐️⭐️⭐️

175x50 is the only way to go for me, very informative as always robin thank you for posting

Absolutely respect you Mr Cleevet