Here's a tip from an old(er) person :) In the 70s/80s we were tracking mosts instruments as hot as possible, due to the signal/noise ratio. But with the (very important) exception of high freq. instruments. Anolog saturation sounds great, but NOT on hh and cymbals. We would track those with plenty of headroom. If your plugins emulates real analog gear, you should also implement good analog recording practice. Record your low-end content as hot as posible and your high-end with plenty of headroom. Another point: If you are trying to recreate the 60s or early 70s sound you should probably process 4-8 busses/ gruops rather than individual instruments. In those days 4 track tape machines was what most engineers had to work with.

@OptomodMix

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer an analogue buss set up too. I was fortunate to use analogue gear before it went out of fashion, there are definatley things I don't miss about it 😉

@groovecat7

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent advice. Many thanks! : )

@effector3659

3 жыл бұрын

There's no real advantage in tracking hot with digital, in some cases it can be detrimental as those cheap preamps on those cheap interface produce more noise when cranked, not to mention background noise when recording at home.

@NillerVision

3 жыл бұрын

@@effector3659 Sorry if my reply was so unclear that it could lead to that misunderstanding. I am not advocating for tracking anything hot digitally. I’m talking about how much of an analog saturation effect you would add to different types of instruments to emulate 70-80s sound. Back then it was good practice to track low range instruments as hot as possible. So you should not apply the same amount of “effect” to all instruments. Fun fact: back when digital recording became standard with 16bit/ 44.khz devices, like ADAT and DAT recorders, It was not uncommon to see recommendations for tracking quite hot digitally as well, in order to make full use of the limited resolution. But with today's standard you should absolutely leave plenty of “digital” headroom

@effector3659

3 жыл бұрын

@@NillerVision now I get it!

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@OverdriveStudiosPontevedra

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@ghost-youth1037

4 жыл бұрын

I'm ded 😂

@citytonightproductions

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha! You win the internet today!

@davidasher22

3 жыл бұрын

Its mumble folk

@caliskaterdrummer

3 жыл бұрын

Hot damnnn 😆

Such a comprehensive and useful tutorial. Thanks a lot! Here's a guide to navigate through: 0:00 Explains the fundamentals of analog routing 9:17 The mix before and after the analog emulation processing Processing the raw tracks before mixing: 10:52 Stage 1 - the analog preamp 12:49 Stage 2 - the analog tracking board 14:12 Stage 3 - the tracking tape 15:05 Stage 4 - the analog mixing board Processing the main bus after mixing: 18:35 Stage 5 - analog summing channel 20:00 Stage 6 - the master tape 22:34 Going bankrupt is not necessary, give Airwindows plugins a try (thanks to Tracy Blair for the tip) My greatest conceptual takeaway: the analog-sounding result won't come from just one tweak at some point of the signal chain, but from the combination of many subtle effects along the chain.

@MelloCello7

3 жыл бұрын

God bless you

@WriteJus

3 жыл бұрын

First off, thanks for the navigation. Maybe I’m just dumb, but I’m not understanding the difference between stage 1 and stage 2.

@ChiragGokani

3 жыл бұрын

@@WriteJus you need to train your ears. The difference is very obvious

@ChiragGokani

3 жыл бұрын

Damn, this comment should be pinned

@pumpernickelherbert

3 жыл бұрын

@@WriteJus Came here to talk about this, stage one and two are a bit misleading without more explanation. Many studios, if they have a quality desk, will go straight into the desk, and therefore the sound of the desk IS the sound of the preamp and vice versa (as well as the sound of the EQ and dynamics section, if engaged). However, some studios have cheaper desks, or just a lot of outboard gear, and will run mics to outboard pres, and then route those pres to their desk. The video is misleading in this, because it routes a Neve pre to a Neve board emu. This is unnecessary and does not mimic real life (the equivalent of plugging a mic into a standalone 1073, then routing it into an 8068). TL;DR: If you have a channel strip emulator that has a preamp section, skip step one unless you're looking to route specific tracks to specific pres.

I really need to go through your channel and start from your beginner level videos. You are very consistent, concise, and informative in every video. Great content man!

8:00 is basically where it starts if you already know what this all means

@blacklanton

4 жыл бұрын

Goat!!

@driftergrey

4 жыл бұрын

Long intro lol

@peterconnolly2724

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that -I was about to bail on the video. Far too much basic stuff.

@fsharpau4925

4 жыл бұрын

More inclusive to start with basics - catering for more people with a wide range of levels of understanding. Good that you give times to FF to. An index in a book to turn to...Anyone read a book lately?

4 жыл бұрын

Well, I didn't know that stuff and I found the intro quite useful. But I appreciate having time tags in videos to skip forward aswell.

This was very well laid out and explained. I've been using saturation and analog emulation plugins for a while now. This definitely helps me set them up more effectively. This is my first time watching your channel. It won't be my last. Thanks!

Harrisson Mixbus 32C v6. The DAW that emulates the complete famous recording desk incl e.q. 3 types of compression and mixbus tape saturation. I use it for a year or so and it's great! Free demo!

As a MOAM subscriber and big fan, I came here to say that this is one of my favorite videos you guys have ever put up. Your work is only getting better and better and it is so helpful to amateur mixers working to improve their skills and demystify a pretty opaque art form. Cheers!

@masteringcom

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

I was literally just thinking about this and I open youtube and see your video... hallelujah, great content dude keep on

@TheHonestTerrorist

4 жыл бұрын

Just the same thing happened to me bruh

You're an amazing instructor. Though I am a beginner in the mixing world, understand the whole process. You really are on a mission. Best regards!

For anyone rreading this now - there's TONS of FREE plugins from Analog Obsession that emulate lots of old school analog gear. Perfect for doing this without spending a penny.

Great video, Dylan! I have quite a few analog emulation type of plugins, but I never knew how best to use them. I can't wait to go back to one of my mixes with this approach in mind and see what I can do!

Saturation makes the mix come alive!

This video changed my whole approach to recording! So amazing! A huge thanks to you!

Great video! The idea of baking the tracks is great. Thanks a lot. Love your content.

This is by far one of your best tutorials. Thank you so much.

@masteringcom

4 жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

A mix really WARM as hell. I will apply those suggestions to my next tracks

i've been messing with analogue desks, outboard and recording since '87, and only been working ITB since 2016... If you really want that analogue feel with your DAW, sonically IMHO, Airwindows is where it's at... start with ~ Channel6, BussColors4, ToTape5, FromTape, ClipOnly, NC-17, Density, Logical4, Pressure4, VariMu and CStrip.

@Rek-Ignition

4 жыл бұрын

Ian Tanner Sounds interesting, could it be possible for a tutorial ? Much appreciated

@michaelcaplin8969

4 жыл бұрын

I would also very much appreciate a tutorial or explanation 🙂

@AMATSONICRECORDS

4 жыл бұрын

hey man. this is great. just one question. do you put this chain on all the individual tracks or just on the master?

@SamFranklinMusic

3 жыл бұрын

also super interested if this chain is for every track... thanks for the tips tho!! Airwindows is incredible

Excellent presentation, FINALLY someone who 'gets' it ! What you didn't mention was the inclusion of a spectrum analyzer to track the buildup of thermal noise and harmonics. That buildup adds a lot of character to the analogue signal. I created a 6SN7GT tube plugin with correct harmonics AND thermal noise. I add one in each preamp input, just like nature intended. To really get the correct emulation, you can drive every piece of outboard gear with such a tube since all the old gear was tube driven or transistor driven. Transistors have a 'colder' sound though, and I haven't bothered to emulate one for that reason. Transformers were used extensively in the vintage gear and their phase shift adds to the overall effect. Every preamp should include input AND output transformers, as should busses, etc. Tape machines back in the day ran with a -70 dB noise floor, and that added to the overall effect. Once again, a spectrum analyzer would bear this out. It would be interesting to see if these commercial plugins live up to their promise, and a spectrum analyzer would gear that out. Thank you for posting this video, you really got it right. Bill P.

@Its24KARAT

3 ай бұрын

Yo brother, do I have to export first to get that analog sound? For example, I use britson bus, and britson channel, I have 3 individual hihats which goes to a group, I throw the britson bus on the group, then, the Briton channel on individual hihats, then export them, and it's only now that I have the real processed sound? Thanks for helping me. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear brother

@RocknRollkat

3 ай бұрын

@@Its24KARAT The Britson bus plugin is supposed to emulate the Neve 8014 console from the early 1970s. There is no "real processed sound", every console sounds a bit different, etc. This discussion could fill volumes. What I'd suggest is that you do a mix with the emulators in, then the same mix without. Try different plugin setups, etc., until you arrive at a sound that you like. You can even run the finished mix through a Pultec emulator with the settings flat, just to add that Pultec sound. That was done decades ago in the analog world, no kidding ! Keep us posted, Bill P.

@Its24KARAT

3 ай бұрын

@@RocknRollkat Thanks man, I will try that and you know here! What are the best emulators you know BTW?

@Its24KARAT

3 ай бұрын

@@RocknRollkat In fact, I just love the way the mix feel, Do you the Rave culture channel? Will all the big BIG ROOM Artist, odd you could talk a look, just listen quickly 2-3 tracks, you will notice their mix feel spacious. Can you see and let me know if they achieve this by analog summing? You seem experienced that's why im asking brother 👍🏻

@RocknRollkat

3 ай бұрын

@@Its24KARAT The best plugins are the ones you like. I'm serious. Let's say that you go to a studio with an all-out API console, and you don't like the way it sounds. There's your answer !

This is probably the best video about mixing I’ve ever seen!great job!!!

@masteringcom

4 жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

I have to take the time and say THANK YOU and keep doing what you're doing!! Your video is GREAT and well needed! The way you went in depth and detail is impressive and you explained it in a clear and concise way! Great job!! I'm subscribed!👍🏾💪🏾💯

@masteringcom

3 жыл бұрын

Glad we could help!

Thanks this video really helped me understand the signal flow for getting that analogue mix

Mixing through the bus and tape recorder are what I needed thanks for this 🙏

This is an incredible video; so glad I stumbled on to your channel -- best tutorials in the business! Thanks so much.

You were just too sincere about your information and well informed, trust me you good

Excellent. If like myself your on this journey. Watch it twenty times if needs must...A lot of information packed in this small video. Many thanks for your effort in creating and sharing your knowledge.

I love this approach. Works great for me ever since watching 🙏

Ive been waiting for somebody to make a video like this for years. Funny thing is, I learned all this stuff just a few months before this video.

Excellent video! One way i’ve gotten immediate saturation is with Acustica Audio’s zero latency plugins on the input fx when tracking.

Listening without watching, it sounds like you're adding really nice light compression with each plug-in. Good stuff

Thank you for a very informative video! This is the first time i see a video from this channel and i learned a lot! I use ableton but you made it easy to understand your process and i was able to still understand and translate your work in the daw to mine 👌🏽 i’m looking forward to learning more from this channel 🙏🏽

@dreographicmusic8002

4 жыл бұрын

I also want to add in that im able to hear the difference and i watched this video on my PHONE the first time! Says a lot about your quality 👌🏽

I love your tutorials ! So inspiring ! Many thanks!

Thank you for sharing! This was some great information.

Thanks mate! This was very useful! Especially as I'm using an Apollo Twin X already.

What a great job you guys did! Thank you

Amazing info brother! I added these techniques to what I’m doing, the results are on another level!!! Thanks!

Great help. It really gives a thick and deep sound thanks !!!

Great video! Thanks! For anyone out there that wants to get tape machine emulations, you can get a tracking tape machine and mastering tape machine both in the Slate Virtual Tape Machine. You can get 2 emulations for the price of 1.

LOVE this. Thanks so much!

Great video. I will try everything presented in this video. If you put a good set of headphone on, you will understand the essence of this video better. You can definitely hear / almost feel the transition from digital to analog sound. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾

Great content and very helpful! Thanks man!

Love this idea, no harm in trying it out either ! Classic albums have been constantly remastered to be louder now too.You should listen to the classic music so yr ears already are used to that sound.

This is a really cool and helpful video. I generally follow these rules but a few details really helped my workflow. Inspired me to set up API, Neve tests this way, and a and b-ing tracks recorded through them. Thanks y'all

Wow 🤩 unique tutorial! Thanks

That`s amazing, thank you so much!!

Thanks KZread for recommending this video to me. SUBSCRIBED

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Thanks Rob !! Bless You !

@masteringcom

4 жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

I literally just woke up from a nap, and clicked on this video from watching your other videos and I am just in time for the live webinar! got my note pad ready, closed all the tabs and everyone else is asleep! ready for the livestream

Thanks for the great tutorial

This video really changed my view on mixing

@masteringcom

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Great tutorial!

Very Informative That's what I was looking for. Thank you

Yeah! Great tutorial! Greetings from Brazil!

Great stuff, man! Oh man, that just made my mix sound 10x better! Question: What would come on my sub busses (drums, bass, guitars, vocals etc.) and my FX returns? Just the mix board simulation I guess?

I enjoy your practices for sure….Ive been recording since 1998 and I have my own ways of doing things….one thing I’ve learned throughout the years is that on a daw it’s really all about the compression in the end…..if you wanna make a track sound like it’s deeper or further away in the mix then slow down the release….more up front then speed up the release. I use to view the stereo field as more of a left to right type of thing. As the years went on I started seeing it as a front to back and left to right type of thing. Compression is the key for that. Eq is is to keep all your sounds outta the way of each other. Tape emulation is cool but it’s not like real tape saturation to me. You have done a good job at emulating that 70’s or 60’s sound but it’s more to do with the instruments you’ve used. I get that you can add the hiss and hum sounds to the recording but other than that those emulators aren’t adding much of anything…..

Thank you for the info!! Using Logic Pro X here.

Really helpfull! Thank’s!!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Great video and information!

You know crazy about this video. I literally just performed this same task using my MPC X except for I used the 3 preamp’s and slate digital console. Then made audio Steem into Protools. Omg. The sound quality I literally scare me half to death I’m like oh my god this is crazy audio sound nice warm and steamy.

Really liked the example song.

Very very cool video man. Thanks. You are the answer for many of my pains. God bless you

@masteringcom

4 жыл бұрын

Glad we could help!

Real good video!

Extremely helpful.

Thank's a lot! Helpfull!

Thanks for this gold! And what about doing this on mix groups (synth, drums, vocals...)? Does it works?

This is awesome

Niceee, thank you so much for this.

I love you love you love you for that video!

Bro I will pay you when I get a bit of money . You're giving so many free infos , THANK YOU!

This is awesomely cool

good info i came to this 8 years ago what i did was bring analog and daw to gather ,and its in di and Preamps my fav i have and use is ART Tube MP Mic Preamp ,this can work as a di box or a mic preamp it give that nice crisp warm sound .than at the daw part for fx of any kind i set up bus i never ever putt fx on the recorded track it gets muddy.the only thing i do on the recorded track is set the eq there than i send to a bus track.butt over all you get the best sound by not going di in with everything if you can .if not for di in get di box and try to have one that got tube in it.

Great information thanks 😊👌

I love your videos man...

Amazing video :D

Am I mistaken or there is the same step two times? He is using the preamp of a console (Neve 1073), and after that, he is also using the preamp of another plugin (Virtual channel). In real life, the preamp is actually part of the tracking board. After gain staging, it goes straight to tape.

@campusaint

4 жыл бұрын

yep

@bennettevergreen4232

3 жыл бұрын

not always for example I was in an analog Studio and we recorded the bass with this chain 1. Neve preamp 2. Compressor 3. EQ 4. Mixing Board (ChannelStrip) 5. Studer (Tape) 6. Mixing Board (ChannelStrip) 7. Computer Its more about picking the right preamp for the instrument but I think its better to just use one Channelstrip

Very clear information. Thanks! New Subscriber

Memories are fresh 1980 That was the best time ever

Awesome use of analogue emulations. Sometimes the simple and the obvious is the most brilliant. Very clever to make such a precise imitation of a professional analogue studio setup. Great video! Question: Do you know Decapitator from Soundtoys? Wouldn't that be a great tool as the console imitations. You can choose between different emulations of different consoles in the plugin. Perhaps it is a bit to exagerated in the emulations. If you know the plugin, what is your opinion on its use in this context?

Thanks for this, man

@masteringcom

3 жыл бұрын

No problem!

Literally the first. Also, love your channel.

@HojoSinclair

4 жыл бұрын

I'm actually figuratively the first. Go figure

Awesome Video bud! I've been around the studios since the early 80's and I was weaned on 2" tape... I love the subtle difference this adds to the overall sound. Will this replace a true Analog tape...no, but for those that can't get their hands on one (for cost or otherwise), this emulates it quite nicely. great job.

@Hadrorex

4 жыл бұрын

Same here. Analog rules. No stinking latency. Left recording for over three decades. Now that I'm retired I have a Soundcraft MFX16i, 8 Presonus Channel Strips, a wide collection of Rode, Shure, Audio Technica, Sennheiser and Audix mics that will be going into a Tascam DM 20 SD recorder. I will be getting the Tascam M24 mighty soon to make building music instrument by instrument, track by track at a time easier. Will also use the M24 as my interface to the box.

Great stuff guys! Also, grab the Slate All Access Pass and call it a day

Thank you 🙏🏾

I agree 100 % with this video !!!!

bro thanks this was an awesome techniqe

You can also add bus processing to your effects sends that will help things

Duuuude this is amaaaaazig ! And you are a great teacher! Now i have a question, Which plugins would you use if you only have the logic plugins?

great video ....

This is tedious but my GOD, it gave me the exact sound I wanted.

Love this! Which mix buss would be comparable in Waves? I’m trying to emulate this process but with Abbey Roads plugins..

Probably the best video ive watched on KZread 🤷🏽‍♂️

@masteringcom

3 жыл бұрын

Ah thanks! Glad it helped. 😅

Thanks for the information, it is very helpful. I just want to know which waves pligins of the for stages must I use if I dont have slate digital plugins and which saturation ones can I use for the final two stages?

Hello this was interesting. Have you/anyone succeeded to the somewhat alike finish by routing just the final mix through a good analog (SSL) compressor and a pro C-cassettedeck back to 2 tracks?

Interesting. Definitely a noticeable difference. What I don't understand is, why do you need the Slate Virtual Channel, if you're already going through the 1073? You have the pre and the fader which make up the channel in the 1073.

Wonderful❤

Any info on the stock or free plugins for Logic that can do the same stuff? Great tut!

mind blowing

very good vid ...

nice tut..

@masteringcom

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help!