9:16 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker 11:03 Bolas's Citadel + Aetherflux Reservoir + Sensei's Divining Top 13:49 Reveillark + Karmic Guide 16:24 Aggravated Assault 18:02 Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter 19:30 Godo, Bandit Warlord + Helm of the Host 21:06 Peregrine Drake + Deadeye Navigator 23:06 Heliod, Sun-Crowned + Walking Ballista 25:45 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Triskelion 27:25 Basalt Monolith 28:57 Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond 30:53 Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation 32:42 Dualcaster Mage + Twinflame 33:43 Niv-Mizzet, Parun + Curiosity 35:05 Felidar Guardian 36:16 Worldgorger Dragon + Animate Dead 37:35 Umbral Mantle 39:08 Sharuum the Hegemon + Phyrexian Metamorph 41:04 Dockside Extortionist + Temur Sabertooth 42:30 Teferi, Temporal Archmage + The Chain Veil 44:52 Malcolm, Keen-Eyed Navigator + Glint-Horn Buccaneer 46:04 Brago, King Eternal + Strionic Resonator 47:11 Food Chain 49:02 Gravecrawler 50:16 Quirion Ranger + Ashaya, Soul of the Wild 52:28 Kodama of the East Tree + Simic Growth Chamber + Field of the Dead 53:40 Critical mass white creatures 54:54 Nim Deathmantle + Ashnod's Altar

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

You are a hero!

@jerryloiselle8507

2 жыл бұрын

You should either pin it or put it in description or both ahah

@JigsawJoe13

2 жыл бұрын

So No Kinnan-bonder-prodigy, Basalt Monolith and pack beast?

@selkokieli843

2 жыл бұрын

I went straight to "critical mass of white creatures" and was disappointed cos it wasn't tokens+anthem :D Gotta face it, I'm just not a combo player in EDH.

Combos? I play Simic Value Engine With No Real Win-Con... Idk what this is but thumbs up for the cat very early on

@brandonbrooks779

2 жыл бұрын

Value engines are just combos with generic payoffs🤷‍♂️

@Barturito

2 жыл бұрын

Ramping into more draw to draw into more ramp is more fun than winning

@bcdfezz

2 жыл бұрын

But who's your commander?

@Barturito

2 жыл бұрын

@@bcdfezz Aesi. You can play an extra land each turn and a land entering draws a card

@moreplease394

2 жыл бұрын

@@bcdfezz It doesn't matter 🤣

FYI it's not uncommon for cEDH games to end in a finite combat step these days. Stax is *very* common/popular in the current meta. It's not rare to see groups of derpy hate bears end the game since others are unable to perform their combos due to the myriad of stax pieces.

Everyday I think, there’s no more content. They’ll run out. Everyday I’m wrong. Consistently impressed

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😂 we try and keep the relevant useful content flowing!

Scavenger Grounds stops 25% (7/28) of these, and is a freeroll for tons of decks. It's one of my auto include lands these days, I've been saved on many occasions by it.

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

It is a solid card for sure

@bobrashley5936

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@selkokieli843

2 жыл бұрын

I would put this to every deck of mine that's not graveyard centric itself or black for bojuka bog. It's so easy to include. For graveyard decks it's soulguide lantern. Voila, every deck has grave covered by at least a card! Ghost also quarter goes to every deck except 4/5 color that needs all the colors and has chaos warp and beast within/generous gift anyway to kill that problem land.

When you mentioned gravecrawler, carrion feeder and rooftop storm for a loop. It is infinite but is greatly improved using acererak the archlich. It replaces gravecrawler and carrion feeder as well as is the win condition. Changes the '4' card combo into only 2.

@joshholmes1372

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Just loop through lost mines to deal 1 damage to all until they're all dead.

Cedh decks that win with combat damage. Some better than others. 1. Winota, Joiner of Forces 2. Pako/Haldan Partners 3. Tymna/Kamahl stax bears 4. Ishai/Jeska Partners 5. maybe krenko (never played against him) That’s pretty much it. There’s lots of Cedh decks that attack/ do combat damage to get a high upside. But the decks listed above use combat damage as their main strategy.

@Zackeus1992

2 жыл бұрын

I would argue that pako/haldan fits with Narset(in casually powerful decks), it's infinite turns/combats by flipping from the top. In cedh, it gains better counters and ramp off the opponents and itself. I wouldn't say it's *main* wincon is combat. I'd say it's infinite combats. Like Godo.

@joshholmes1372

2 жыл бұрын

Najeela can win with face beatdown. Granted it's usually an infinite loop, but can still win of you build enough momentum without removal/board whipe to win without infinite.

thoracle consult can also be stopped by instant speed forced card draw and after their library is empty, or if their graveyard is bigger than their devotion to blue, endurance their graveyard into their library after consultation resolves too. both are super specific and not as open ended as countering the spell, but it's something you can do outside of blue

@pauljimerson8218

2 жыл бұрын

Cephalid Colosseum is good tech

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

It’s still pretty hard to interact with

@spudster8887

2 жыл бұрын

This is why you generally shouldn't go for that combo unless you can back it up, you almost always want a counterpell of some sort in your hand if you're attempting to pull that combo off, because generally someone will try and stop you anyway.

@dunerid9794

2 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds White instant FTW lol Oblation

@mpers

2 жыл бұрын

@@spudster8887 urza says hello

Very topical seeming how my last LGS [not super competitive] match was a 40 min match of 3 of us watching someone's edric extra turn deck pop off at turn 3. Everyone except the edric player left pretty unhappy. Thanks for the happy memories 😊.

Nothing has made my night better than seeing Joe Cherries pet Amber like Dr. Evil while looking in to the camera

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

LOL you are not the only one

Just this moment I am building Alela artifacts combo deck not knowing what I do and looking on youtube for some ambiente music when the perfect video comes around! Perfect timing guys!

@allbadmanners

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I haven't watched the video yet but as someone who has played artifacts, combos and esper religiously have I such glorious things to tell you. Thassa's and consultation blah blah blah. Let's skip to the good stuff, Rest in Peace/Dauthi Voidwalker/Leyline of the Void and Energy field or Helm of Obedience makes it so you can't take damage from opponents or helm mills everyone out since things can never hit the graveyard. Smothering tithe, windfall, and revel and riches sets you up for a win and access to a lot of mana. If you're in a good position you're in the best colors for removal with wrath effects so you don't NEED smothering tithe. Urza, I don't need to say anything about. Emry, Lurker of the lock is an amazing commander I overlooked until I built it for a friend. It is just simply good recursion but it also combos with intruder alarm, an artifact creature and blasting station, it also goes infinite with Mirran spy, lotus petal, urza's/mishra's bauble and lab man or something along those lines. She also combos with aetherflux and while you're at it throw in dramatic isochron and what the heck throw narset's reversal in your deck and any extra turn spell. Narset's imprinted under isochron to return an extra turn spell to your hand each turn and get a copy of it means you basically have infinite turns.

Great video guys. I consider myself an intermediate magic player trying to advance in skill and this video is a great reference.

I love the casual integration of amber into a 3rd host.

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

She’s slowly becoming a regular!

A lot of these can be answered by a Krosan Grip to stop it from going infinite. Like the walking ballista and heliod combo. Krosan grip is a staple against combo heavy decks

Thanks for the birthday wishes nerds! The Nitpicking Nerds continue to be the best commander content creators for birthdays... All other commander content creators obviously must hate birthdays!

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

They are haters!!

Oops i'm already running four of these combos among my decks. Love this video! I was just looking at Kodama and Ashaya for my Omnath (rage) deck. Q ranger already in there. You just convinced me to give them each a full slot. infinite 5/5 Elementals or mana seems good. (I run two bounce-self lands)

I play multiple combos as win cons in some of my decks but I don't run tutors. I'm always counting on drawing into one of my combos and the variance makes for much more fun and tense gameplay than just tutoring and winning the same way every time.

This does help reinforce the importance of instant speed interaction at higher level tables. Most combos worth using there are used there because they are easy to assemble in one turn, and you won't have time to use sorcery speed. Dramatic Scepter also flops hard to bounce, flicker, etc anything that that forces the Scepter to forget what it exiled will ruin the combo. It's low enough to the ground that it's easy to win on the spot, but instant speed interaction of any kind will probably interrupt things, which helps explain why it's used in mono-blue so much at higher levels. Heliod/Ballista really needs to be a combo that works the turn you cast it, it's really open to interaction. If you use the combo in a Zur deck, it has a big upside in that most competitive leaning decks run way less countermagic that hits creatures, so if Zur cheats out Heliod, not only does it save mana/find half your combo, it also makes the combo much harder to interact with. It's big weaknes is it's 6 mana set up cost, which is a ton of mana to hold up. Exquisite Blood is also considerably easier to make playable compared to Sanguine Bond, and is more likely to warrant removal anyways I find. Oracle is a very good card, but Tainted Pact is a much stronger card than Consultation, if only because Pact works as an actual tutor, where Consultation is a zero-versatility combo piece. Oracle has weaknesses to various colours, White (and Blue haha) have Rule of Law to make the combo uncastable, Black and Red can both burn you at instant speed easily (and by running cards that are already playable) while Green can also manage it, with the downside of it requiring bad cards, Green is good at recycling graveyards, and Blue/Black can force people to draw cards, as can Artifacts to an extent. You can also remove enough Devotion that they just can't win, Cyclonic Rift does a good job of this, but in many cEDH games you might need to kill 2 creatures (Oracle and a Commander) to get their devotion to 0. The best interaction I still say is Rule of Law, because it just turns off almost every playable combo at higher levels. Gravecrawler has a nice resiliency to it in some combos, since it can recur itself as long as you've got a zombie, not unlike Haakon. I'm thinking of adding Gravecrawler to my Meren Haakon deck, but I don't have very much zombies, so we'll see if it stays in. The deck can easily go infinite with it, but I think Haakon/Universal Automaton is a bit better. I honestly didn't love the original art for this, but there is the Drop art, I think I can Vorthos with that a bit, a thing my Meren deck is all-in on. As an add on to Haakon vs Gravecrawler, Haakon can reanimate any knight, and some of them have good abilities and aren't just a body, Liliana's Standard Bearer feels really really good if you end up drawing more than 10 cards in a game off of a couple casts. Critical Mass is a fun way to play, I like doing it with Simic in Tatyova. Some of the set ups are turn 3 capable (the deck doesn't run any rocks atm), but the deck usually wins by just dumping enough pieces out that eventually go infinite and win. I set it up so that if it actually goes infinite, it's very, very hard to lose, so it's a pretty fun deck, often winning closer to turn 8, just fast enough to be relevant in higher power formats, but not usually so fast that it can't play against casual (it hates aggro). The big flaw in the deck is the inconsistency of drawing into a dork that puts lands into play, if that doesn't happen the deck can end up feeling absolutely awful. Moonfolk Flood is the worst thing that can happen to the deck, and if you draw only that, it feels terrible. Sakura Tribe Scout is a sick card even if you aren't able to combo off with it, while Moonfolk tend to feel like bad cards unless you have at least 1 Land Into Play dork, ideally you'd want 2 or more. AFAIK, there are 6 really good 'tap to put a land in' options in Simic, and while that's a lot, it's not actually that many in a 99 card singleton deck, you've got to see on average ~16 cards before you see one, which is part of why the deck ends up winning turns 6-8 pretty often, it's seen enough cards to have found all the parts, because it runs a similar number of bounce and untap effects. Not having Haste makes this a bad combo I must admit, if I draw into the LIP dork last, I have to wait a turn *with it out* and just whistle innocently until my next upkeep. I had a really weird dream way back, I more or less had a ~2 hours long dream that was like VR space experience, like I was living in a hard sci-fi future. Better than the various nightmares that show up now and then anyways.

I am so in for your cat in the videos now! Even if she's just hanging out in the shot, you love to see it.

Hmm I see important cards missed here. Chain of smog + Witherbloom apprentice (new and deadly). Also, when talking about Oracle+Consultation, Tainted pact, Lab Maniac and Jace, Wielder of mysteries got to be included. And you cannot forget good old Power artifact, the original combo (working with basalt monolith, grim monolith and even mana vault during upkeep - i.e. Rocket Launcher ols school tech baby!!!)

@xx3uddhaxx

2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure they’re make a series out of it

Right on time for my lunch break. You guys are the best

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

We got you homie

This is great! Thanks guys!

Currently working on an Emiel, the blessed deck. Combos galore lol

I would like to add another loop that a friend of mine uses in his breya deck: thopther assembly+time sieve. Requires you to not have thopters on the BF when you go for it but then enjoys your infinite turns

you can also do the demonic consultation combo in mono blue, but it's sorcery speed. Paradigm shift is a sorcery for 1U (2 mana) that says "Exile all cards from your library. Then shuffle your graveyard into your library." if you do this on turn 2 or 3 you only have paradigm shift in there, meaning the devotion to blue is higher = you win.

My most combo focused deck is my Jhoira Weatherlight Captain. Using either one of the mirrors, plus a myr galvanizer, plus any number of other myr that produce two or more mana, or the simple way is forsaken monument and basalt monolith to produce infinite colorless, then all I need at that point is a castable comet storm, red suns zenith, ghitu fire, etc.

One more thing on Kodama of the East Tree is that you can partner it with Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith and this gives access to two pieces of the infinite combo in the command zone, just need to add Gruul Turf or Guildless Commons and you have infinite landfall and infinite Rock tokens.

Great video!

Great stuff, was surprised you did not throw Staff of Domination in there with Umbral Mantle. one more mana is needed from the dork but so many other upsides like infinite draw!

you guys are great, keep up the good content!

Now this joe the content I’m all about

Awesome work as always

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Some nice additions to my list. :3

you can win in cEDH with combat damage, for example with Winota, Tymna+Kamahl or Bruse Tarl+Kamahl

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t seen much of these decks

@spudster8887

2 жыл бұрын

Or the best combat centric deck in the format, najeela. Whilst it is an infinite loop, her main combo does win with combat damage.

@nettlesomereflexion

2 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds Winota is SUPER fun and has been winning a fair share of tournaments

Don't forget the kiki-jiki combo with a ham sandwich guys, great video as always!

Just in case anyone didn't know, Bolas's Citadel + Aetherflux Reservoir + Necropotence also works because you can just use necropotence to exile lands from the top of your library when they get in the way and you'll very quickly be gaining so much life per spell that you can just play your entire deck and win either with aetherflux reservoir or any other combo in your deck

Similar to your Quirion Ranger combo: Wirewood Symbiote + Mirror Entity. I play that in my Selvala, Explorer Returned deck :)

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Thank you Amber for those amazing combos!! You were amazing! Guess this two humans did it ok too.

I’m going to go full meta here and NITPICK regarding the cEDH is all combos opinion. As of this post, there exists a non-combo deck, Tymna-Kamahl no-wincon stax/hatebears. It kills via Kamahl.

Gravecrawler is fun in zombie tribal, paired with phyrexian altar plus any of vengeful dead, plague belcher, headless rider, diregraf colossus. Another zombie combo is nim deathmantle/ashnods altar/geralfs messenger

Well done

One of my favourites that goes infinite at the drop of a hat is Necrotic Ooze. Necrotic Ooze on the field with Triskelion/Walking Ballista in the grave with Phyrexian Devourer is a non-infinite combo that often kills. Necrotic Ooze with Pili-Pala and Palladium Myr in the grave also goes infinite, Walking Ballista could be in grave or hand, as long as Ooze doesn't have summoning sickness. Sub out the Necrotic Ooze in either of these combos with Trazyn the Infinite, or with Myr Welder and some extra mana to start up activations, and you've got the game. That's a good 8 cards that go infinite in some combination, that are easy to splash into a deck that cares about the graveyard/artifacts and has access to black (6 cards if you're just colourless - cut the Ooze and Trazyn).

The game ending thing is true but there have been plenty of times that I simply wanted to find combos that will simply let me get ahead in the game so that I can build a more optimized frack that can handle more situations but all that is out there is the narrow definition “infinite combos” whenever I try to find stuff in the internet and it’s annoying. Honestly infinity is kind of easy. If you build a 7-10 deck small combos pop up wherever if you play cards in the right order. The smallest of which is a playing a spell that is triggered by the next spell you would play and that next spell is triggered by what the original did. That way you simply get more value out of the cards as opposed to the opposite order which would do nothing. Maybe I just wanna go 3 to 10 lands in a turn. I once made an infinite combo with Aetherworks marvel that let me cast every black spell in my deck if I wanted to. I took it out of the deck because it made playing the deck less fun.

Some Things to dockside 1. He also Works Wonders with Cloud-Stone curio and 2. If the are tappt Out you can kill the the dockside bevor bis Trigger resolves (or kill the sabertooth)

My Najeela would disagree with you about no combat winning in cEDH. I'd say it's about 50/50 on combo and combat win with that deck at our table. Great video in any case:)

Some of my favorit Combos are Garna the bloodflame + deathrender + sac Outlet Magda+an artefact drwav+ clock of ohmens (Infinit tappt treasures)

A good time to deal with Isochron Scepter is with the Imprint ability on the stack. If you can destroy it then they lose the scepter. Or, if you can afford to give them 1 untap, do it with the untap ability on the stack. Then, even if they can get the Scepter back the Imprinted card is exiled forever.

I've been playing around with a sliver queen deck, only have a few infinites in it right now, just seeing what I own that I can throw in. Queen/basal sliver(ashnods)/blood artist, thoracle/demonic consultation, and the normal sliver infinite mana combos. How many combos can you reliably fit into a 5 color deck? Need to pick up some transmute cards, can never have too many tutors.

My favorite way to interact with Thoracle is to make them draw a card while their deck is empty and orcle's ability is on the stack. Mikokoro and Geier reach sanitarium are amazing for this as they need to be stifled and people often forget they're on the board. And Thoracle doesn't have a clause to win with a draw on an empty deck like lab maniac. But consultation always completely empties the deck.

The Reveillark and Karmic Guide combo only works for the altars and very specific sac engines, because Karmic Guide is pro black and most free sac engines are black. They should just ban the altars and Kiki because you guys said it best about games being the same. Solid video and you guys seem super intimidating to play against lol

@Zackeus1992

2 жыл бұрын

Karmic guide can be sacrificed to a black permanent. Protection-can't be damaged or *Targetted* by a black permanent. Most sacrifice(I hesitate to say *all* with mtg. XD), doesn't say 'target'. Just says 'sacrifice a creature'. Since it doesn't target, Karmic is good to be sacrificed. Protection is weird. It's why most people get confused by Progenitus dying to Wrath of God.

@odyseeus

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zackeus1992 sick thanks for the explanation. Figured they wouldn’t post something like that. I took out Karmic Guide last week ago because someone told me that lmao

Tale’s End is such a slept on card. It deals with most of these combos and it can stop commander casts!

@thekopekemaster

2 жыл бұрын

Plus it can kill fetchland activations! Pretty sweet card, I played it in standard for a while and it was so much fun to surprise people with it.

best video! make a video about combo defense, thank you guys

I'd just like to mention words of wind. It goes infinite with sol ring and mana Crypt, but it can go infinite with any 2 mana rocks that can produce at least 3 mana more than what they cost to cast (like with cost reducing effects)

@koelkast9

2 жыл бұрын

And you need to draw a ton of cards too...

A question for the combo of The Locust God + Sage of the falls, if you don't have say Thassa's Oracle or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, would you just lose to drawing out your deck and having no other cards to draw before you can go to combat? Or can you stop the combo since Sage of the falls text states, "you may draw..."?

You should have mentioned curiosity also goes infinite with Shabraz, you win with infinite discard steps. Just thought I would mention that.

Heloiod/ballista can be countered with damage prevention. It has to prevent non combat damage, but if ballista can't deal damage, it doesn't trigger lifelink.

Personal favorite, infinite mana with silver and pladium myr, myr galvanizer and a clone. Add memnarch and steal everything. Takes five cards but it’s so worth it. Tap pladium and silver to make three mana, two colorless and a blue. Tap one of your myr galvanizer for one and untap you other myr and do it again, gaining a blue and a colorless each time. Once you have infinite you can pay your memnarch activation and first turn everything into artifacts and then activate the second ability and steal everyone’s permanents. It’s a little bit janky but always my favorite to pull of, especially if your opponent has never seen it.

So to clarify, Teysa Karlov with a board wipe and cruel celebrant with a decent board is a "critical mass combo"?

magic kitty is back for a few brief shining moments

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

She’s magics cat sweetheart

You two make a great couple!

I love the cat! 💕

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Us too! ❤️

Does boardwiping and countering everything your opponents control and swinging in with a 1/1 over 80 turns count?

What about Melira, Sylvok Outcast + Murderous Redcap + Sack outlet or Midnight Guard + Elemental Mastery?

The best way to stop world gorger is killing it in response to the exile trigger, cos the return trigger will active first and there will be nothing to return, then the exile trigger will go. And you don't need any stiffle effect any kill/exile will do.

love combos in cedh and edh

Does and "end the turn" effect stop the Thassa's Oracle/Demonic Consultation win?

I play sharuum and try not to base my entire deck around the combo. only have sculpting steel with disciple of the vault and leonin elder. If i get the combo in my hand or draw it, ill do it, but it doesn't happen too often.

My way to deal with Thassa's Oracle/Demonic Consultation, is to have a land like Geier Reach Sanitarium that causes everyone to draw a card. Then you let them exile their library, and before the Oracle's ability resolves you activate the land and make them draw a card, causing them to lose the game.

@dunerid9794

2 жыл бұрын

you can literally kill them with a white instant lol. Oblation return target permanent to their deck they shuffle and draw 2 cards. right before the Oracle's ETB goes off. send that BIT** back to the deck and they draw the 2 cards they don't have lol

Happy Birthday!

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Birthday!

@chiefbedroom553

2 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds i do this every time

Goblin recruiter into Muxas and the 6 most gas goblins. OP combo

My new favorite combo is Aurelia + Sword of Hearth and Home + any other creature = all your Basics from your deck and Infinite Combat

Forgot a pretty big one. Witherbloom Apprentice + Chain of Smog! Pretty strong one!

Greater Good and Ominous Seas are also a great combo for simic players that want to draw their entire deck at instant speed.

19:30 godo untapps only Samurai and his selfe so If they have an indestuctible Creature you will mit kill them (it depents on what Equipments you have in your Deck) 33:43 you would also need a way to discard your Kozilek

mabye late to the party but: Thassa//consultation is the reason our playgroup started playing a wonderful card called trickbind. Let'em resolve consultation counter thassas trigger and boom...one player down so i guess you trade 1 for 99 :D Other things include crop rotation into cephalid coliseum, mikokoro, geist reach sanitarium basically any land that draws them a card; blue zenith (and similar), and a funny one is blessed respite :D Probably there are better ones but these seem to work in like 75% of the times.

Umbral mantle needs to be countered or stopped before being equipped. Untapping the creature is part of the cost of the activated ability of umbral mantle. If you use a mana producing creature (priest of Titania, selvala explorer returned, etc), you can retain priority and continue stacking umbral mantle triggers while repeatedly gaining mana from the creature. Your opponents will not be able to respond until you decide to pass priority for the umbral triggers (equipped creature gains +2/+2 until end of turn) to resolve.

Isn’t tymna Kamal a beats deck in cedh? I know winota can combo but doesn’t need to, jeska ishai can also combo but doesn’t need to. There’s like maybe 5-6 combat based decks or nonsense kills like yuriko in cedh that can just leverage the card adv and the big dmg to kill.

So serious question. In my LGS and playgroups combos have a very negative touch. Are combos considered normal for your play groups?

There are in fact a few combo less CEDH decks. Winota is one such deck I'll have you know. Now who is the real Nickpicking Nerd???? Me it's me. I'm That guy. JK good video guy love the content

Outside of blue, Noxious Revival can beat a Thoracle combo, but you have to also get them down to zero devotion to blue (which means kill the Oracle) in order for it to work, so you literally need multiple answers.

I have a very special place in my heart for calico and tortoise shell cats ❤️❤️❤️

There is absolutely combat wins in cedh. Winota, kinnan big cards, stacks. Timna kraum have it as a backup.

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I play cEDH, and can verify that there are combat wins, but only for very specific decks (usually stax). I've lost count of the number of times I've just won by locking down the board and beating people up with Kenrith, or Elesh Norn and a bunch of dorks. Amusingly enough, once three to four combo decks are all tuckered out and burned through all of our interaction and win conditions, it really just devolves into a battle of beatsticks.

So Brago *does* have to hit. Does that mean it has to hit every time you try the combo? I'm just a little confused

A dumb one is turntimber ranger + arcane adaption and another ally with rally. Like kalastrai healer or halimar excavator

My favorite current combo is with command the dread horde. First I need at least 3 creatures in my gy that have "when a creature enters the battlefield you gain 1 life" and 3 creatures with "when you gain life, opponent lose 1 life". If I dreadhorde just those 6 creatures, that is 54 damage. I'm sure my opponents will have creatures in their graves so with just a few more creatures targeted, I blow away the table.

This is a cool episode. Ine note is that I don't think the 'legend rule' doesn't count as being sacrificed. It's not relevant for Sharuum but I wanted to pair Dargo with Molten Echoes but it doesn't work. :(

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

This is fair but sacrifice isn’t important for the combo. 😊

@ReLeaseHaVoc

2 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds For sure! It just can be confusing for new players/deck builders like I was at the time. I did also want to say that I think your definition of combos is great. They win you the game. A loop for infinite, do-nothing effects. Synergy is finite, positive interaction between cards that don't immediately win you the game but further your chances.

2:30 Joe Cherries pets the Kitty 😻

White has Angel's Grace for Thoracle, but a lot of times the combo is backed up with a Silence effect.

Here's how you win with combat on turn two. Turn1 : play Plateau, Manacrypt and mox Diamond than play your Ishai from commandzone. Pass the turn and hope that your oppents play six spells. Turn 2: drop land and play Jeska from commandzone and tripple the DMG on Ishai than play Kediss from your hand and attack. GG :)

@HomeCookinMTG

2 жыл бұрын

That’s an Incredibly specific nut draw, not a consistent way to combat damage out the table on turn 2

@tyroflame2764

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeCookinMTG haven't you heard of magical Christmas land :))

@HomeCookinMTG

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyroflame2764 well yes I have but even in magical Christmas land your combo here still doesn’t work. The damage dealt with keddiss’s ability isn’t combat damage, And does not count as commander damage

@tyroflame2764

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeCookinMTG that's unfortunately true, just looked it up. However u win on turn three anyway

@HomeCookinMTG

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyroflame2764 it’s still a really cool idea the only thing is I don’t think you can call this a combat damage win in good faith lol, only one player is dying to combat damage everybody else is dying because of your planes walkers activated ability and another creatures triggered ability, I think this falls Under the same category as Godo, It’s a combo kill it just happens to involve the combat step

Pog bday video

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Bday!

Can't you just kill world gorger dragon in response to its etb to leave everything in exile? Same with animate dead?

So a combo i like is, the word tree + morphon the boundless + maskwood nexus + fist of suns.

With the critical mass white creatures, boonweaver giant + any sac outlet badicly pulls all of them.

Never have a problem with win cons like demonic thoracle, they just seem boring to play. Like the same thing every time. Just not my preferred play style.

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

They do seem extremely boring

@geogaddimaxima7421

2 жыл бұрын

Another person of culture, Infinites are so boring. You're just racing to infinite and ignoring the whole point of EDH, which is to play a game of magic with friends, sad to see people let the win blind them.

I demand more episodes with a cat!

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

She’s in a fair number of the recent ones, she behaves pretty well on camera (originally we kept her out)

Woohoo!

What you guys said about how there are no cEDH decks that win with combat, is incorrect. Three of the best and most popular decks right now (winota, ishai/Jeska, najeela) either only win through beats or they have straight up beats as their primary or secondary wincon