*PUSH-UPS TO DO PER CHAPTER* : 0:00​ - Keyboard sizes explained - *3* 0:52​ - Full Size (100%) Keyboards - *12* 2:25​ - 1800 Compact Keyboards - *3* 3:10​ - TKL (Tenkeyless) Keyboards - *4* 4:16​ - 75% Keyboards - *4* 5:15​ - 80% Keyboards DO Exist! - *2* 5:43​ - 65% Keyboards - *5* 6:55​ - 60% Keyboards are SMOL!! - *8* 8:12​ - Gaming Keypads - *0* 8:30​ - 40% Keyboards are...unique - *1* 8:52​ - Is there a best keyboard size? - *5* *TOTAL: 47* (Thanks for the workout!)

@princeplotena

3 жыл бұрын

bruhhh beat me to it

@HardwareCanucks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the count! Ha -D.

@fredneverdead773

3 жыл бұрын

80% is the same as tkl, the 80% hes talking about it whats called exploded 75%. Alot people, sometimes even manufacturers, confuse the two :D

@rhl8673

3 жыл бұрын

Not to be picky, but the count is just 22. He said that you have to do a push up every time he says, "keyboard", not any word including keyboard, meaning you can ignore the plural.

@sou_desu8587

3 жыл бұрын

Should i try it? Edit:rip can only reach 26

It’s not the size that matters, it’s How you Use It

@HardwareCanucks

3 жыл бұрын

That is the bet thing to say about a keyboard ha -D.

@FADHsquared

3 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareCanucks bet :O

@gavinpotter8741

3 жыл бұрын

This comment is the bet of the bet

@Gandi2000

3 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareCanucks the -D part adds on to the joke 😂

@this-is-not-a-channel-

3 жыл бұрын

best you didn't see that coming

There is something a lot of people don't talk about, but is important to a subset of people who use keyboards every day. If you are a programmer, I definitely wouldn't recommend going down to a keyboard that doesn't have a dedicated tilde button. There is an important function on that button for programmers, which is the back tick ( ` ). You can still use the key, but it's quite an annoying key combination to use the back tick on the smaller form factors.

@Synthetica9

5 ай бұрын

As a software developer, I daily drive a 60% and have never really found it an issue, may depend on the language tho

@hellmen54

5 ай бұрын

Not only programmers but pc builders and mac users should also beware of special layouts and test if possible. My coolermaster quickfire tk just doesn’t work in the bios (tested on dell, asus, lenovo, hp) or on my macbook m1. The keymapping is random and incomplete when using it. No issues in Windows or Linux tho.

@hellmen54

5 ай бұрын

@@hyperturbotechnomike portability, ergonomics (your hands are more centered on numlockless keyboards) and personal preference. I like the 75% ansi qwerty keyboards alot although my country’s standard one is belgian azerty. I regularly switch between my 12-14” laptops and desktop so I’m used to not having a numpad. So I prefer the extra desk space over having one.

@triggerHLM

4 ай бұрын

60% is perfect for programming when used to layers

@milesparker557

3 ай бұрын

I've only ever needed back ticks for Javascript. I don't think most other languages actually need it.

When I built my gaming PC a couple of years ago I opted for 70%, but over time I found that I hated needing to use the function modifiers and just not having those extra keys for keybinds. Switched to a full size Logitech G815 and adore it, love having the macro row and the numpad for Soundpad keybinds.

@pedro.alcatra

11 ай бұрын

Lol is just bought this week mine

@atomotron

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I feel like keyboard makers go the wrong direction with their "less-than-100%" form-factor. What I want is 150-keys keyboard!

@Antboi4653

3 ай бұрын

​@memodump most gamers like mouse space. And for a lot of people tenkeyless is the best option

@atomotron

3 ай бұрын

​@@Antboi4653 I know for me the best option is the TKL keyboard with an addition of another 20-40 keys to the LEFT. The real issue with modern keyboards is they are not positioned properly: when you type, you need to position it so that the space bar is the middle point, and the numpad will mess with the mouse space. When you game, you need to move it more to the left, up to the point where the cursor keys are at the middle. This is the real problem to solve, not cutting pieces off the board.

@Mandolindo

2 ай бұрын

I started out at 100%, went to 70%, couldn't get past the fact that my numpad wasn't there and went back to 100%. I need all my keys.

Laughs in 1% keyboard

@com.schwi.youtube

3 жыл бұрын

are you an osu player by any chance?

@nosc0pe

3 жыл бұрын

@@com.schwi.youtube no

@xuyukun123

3 жыл бұрын

Aren't you the wildcat typing compilation guy

@Desmutted

3 жыл бұрын

I use a split 30% keyboard it's called the corne

@alieffauzanrizky7202

3 жыл бұрын

You mean that huge foam enter?

It's literally the first time I've heard of the 1800 designation for the 96% board. I just kitted myself an RK860 and it's been pretty good so far. Pretty cheap too.

@jsirius94

3 жыл бұрын

Everything I'd seen also called that size 96%. Just transitioned to a 96% from a TKL and it might be the perfect fit for my setup

@alanYK

3 жыл бұрын

it baffles me when i heard of 1800 designation until i googled its derivation.

@phil3094

3 жыл бұрын

For clarity, there is a slight difference. 1800 has the spacers while 96 has no spacers.

@CosmicApe

2 жыл бұрын

1800 refers to the layout of the keys, not how many. The 95/96% boards usually refers to the ones that are all pushed together with no space, like a Keychron K4 style.

@valour549

2 жыл бұрын

Does RK860 ting a lot when you hit the space bar? Do the keys all feel/sound the same? How is the battery life? Thanks.

Great video - a nice clean presentation/explanation of the different styles, functionality, positives and negatives. Well done.

I'll probably go with either a TKL or a 75%, cause I don't really use the number pad that much but I still need dedicated function keys as I use them quite often

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around Dimitri tilting his keyboard like that.

@contantino_mm

3 жыл бұрын

for gaming probably..

@benscones9529

3 жыл бұрын

It's a more ergonomic position for your wrist and arm when using WASD. Edit: oh and more mouse space if you need it. Had to look that part up

@ashwinramesh1356

3 жыл бұрын

Most FPS pros tilt their keyboard like that to make more space for your mouse and it is also more comfortable when leaning close to the monitor.

@MrTehNoms

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashwinramesh1356 I suppose that makes sense. I actively lean away from the monitor, so I suppose that's why tilting my keyboard the opposite way is more comfortable.

@Hyper76400

2 жыл бұрын

same

You forgot to mention the most important advantage with full size keyboards: the ability to quickly enter any unicode symbol using ALT codes (Alt + number combinations on num pad). Personally, I need this in order to get correct Norwegian quotation marks (« and »), en dash and em dash (- and -), and the degree symbol (°), just to name a few. I love the aestethic of TKL boards, and would love to have one, but it's just simply too limited.

@KAIBlent

5 ай бұрын

you can do it using alt+x

@dotCashark

5 ай бұрын

oh crap haha. i just ordered a new keyboard (65%) and this didn't occur to me. my name has an a with an umlaut in it, but i use an american layout. oops. i'm sure i can just keep it in my clipboard whenever i have to type my name.

@sluin

5 ай бұрын

Maybe there are programs which replace oe with ö etc.​@@dotCashark

I'm currently running a 65%, but I've mostly used a compact 1800 (since that's what usually is built onto laptops). For the most part I think that 75% is my sweet spot. Even when programming, painting or gaming, I don't find myself using the home cluster that much (or at all). And while the numpad is indeed great for data entry, with the amount of use I get out of it, I can't really justify having it take up desk space.

@kobymile5453

3 ай бұрын

I am wondering the size of your monitor. People go as large and wide with the screen, but cannot spare 3 inches on the keyboard.

@milesparker557

3 ай бұрын

​@kobymile5453 well, monitors and keyboards have different space constraints. People don't typically have to fit stuff beside their monitor. Heck, you can even have a monitor that's bigger than your table as long as the stand fits. Not to mention wall mounted monitors. A keyboard is more contrained by your table size and you typically need to be able to fit at least a mouse beside it. Especially for FPS gamers who need a lot of mouse space. Or digital artists (sounds like OP does digital art) who need to also be able to fit a drawing tablet beside their keyboard. There are also the people who use the same keyboard they use at home for travel, where a smaller keyboard is definitely needed.

I really enjoy this video, since this gives me a huge knowledge about the keyboard sizes, their advantages and disadvantages. I always use the full-size keyboards but I hope one day I can use the TKL and even smaller sizes.

0:11 can we just talk about how smooth that transition was.

@lokichuvand

3 жыл бұрын

that's really not hard to do... lol

I tried a TKL size and I could not get used to it. Turns out I use the numpad on a full size a lot!

@mohh9426

3 жыл бұрын

I was in the same situation. So I got a separate num pad which I use when I'm doing productive work and put aside when gaming

@hadifelani

3 жыл бұрын

@@mohh9426 i did this too 😁

@Vasharan

3 жыл бұрын

I use a TKL for home and a 104-key at work. I do wish someone would just make a full size keyboard with the numpad on the left hand side so I have more mousing room when gaming, though.

@hadifelani

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vasharan asus rog had one, I forgot the name. But yeah the downside is that it's overpriced. They hyped up the modular function, you can magnetically plop the numpad on either side or even convert it into a TKL.

@alpacamale2909

3 жыл бұрын

Aunque no lo creas el 40% es mejor para escribir números que el TKL. Todo lo que necesitas es crear una capa que sea una calculadora.

As someone who dealing with Excel a lot and want a smaller keyboard, the 1800 compact that doesn't have any spacing between keys (like keychron k4) is a godsend. It's size aren't too different with most of TKL (because usually TKL have spacing right side of enter key) and it still has numpad. But if I don't want a numpad then the 75% layout is my choice.

@afgncap

Ай бұрын

Yep numpad is extremely useful if you need to work with numbers. If I didn't already have full size keyboard I'd probably get 1800 compact.

I've been using full sized keyboards forever. Never even tried the smaller ones. I finally jumped out and bought the Logitech G-915 TKL and I have to say...I love this thing. I love the size, the keys...everything. I switch it from my home computer to my work computer with a button press (lightspeed to bluetooth) and the size lets me use it on my lap, or on my small work computer desk, and also place it on my gaming computer between my flight sticks. It's pretty slick.

Love my 75%. Apart from the struggle finding key replacement sets it does everything I need, love the fact my numbers and function keys line up, plus is Bluetooth wireless AND works with windows and Mac OS.

@vilgefortz3131

2 жыл бұрын

Keychron K2? I got that one and its exactly what you described.

75% is the perfect balance between compact and function. I seem to be in the minority, but I prefer more slim and portable keyboard though, not tall mechanical keys.

@michaelhuss0

2 жыл бұрын

Mechanical keyboards are noisy. I have a 75% with cheap non-mechanical switches, and I prefer it because I already make enough key noise. I used to game on one of those roll-up rubber keyboards for stealth while the family was sleeping. XD ... Now, if I could find a mouse I like that lasts more than six months, I would be all set. My Logitech T400 has a failing left switch, and it's an obscure low-profile switch. :-S

@KagemandenDK

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelhuss0 Most mice can serve you for a year minimum, so I don't know what you're doing to yours lol. I've had mine for 2-3 years and it still holds up like it's new

@michaelhuss0

2 жыл бұрын

@@KagemandenDK The switches are not created equal. I just happened to have picked a few winners. Lol I prefer smaller, lighter mice without extra buttons and gimmicks. It seems like more, "basic," mice tend to break more easily than the monstrocities my friends use for gaming.

@KagemandenDK

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelhuss0 I also like the simple mice, but I was lucky enough to get a Razer Diamondback from 2015, which doesn't have a bunch of gimmicks on the side. But yeah if you go for the really basic mice you might have to replace them a little sooner. I wish you luck in finding one you like that can last tho! :)

@edxlee

2 жыл бұрын

yes I prefer 75% over 65% cause I like my F# keys for MMO's and such, and the extra one line height makes no difference to me.

usually I skip through the sponsor section of the video but the double conversation tactic really got me interested. omg, well done on the retention!

Thank you for this video. Has helped in my making my decision on what keyboard I want.

All your backgrounds are so clean. I love it.

@HardwareCanucks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks thanks :) Gotta love what Iskren (ThisIsE) has done with the studio! -D.

The compact full size with all the keys bunched up together like that is usually called a 96%. Keyboards like the Cherry G80-1800 or the Drop SHIFT are actual 1800s

Great breakdown. Thanks!

This is a great video, thanks so much for the information.

1800 is my favourite, having a full size numpad with a smaller form factor is perfect for my case! It’s slightly harder to build cuz parts for this format is abit rare.

I didn't think you'd even mention 40%, but was pleasantly surprised, also well explained. 65% is the most ideal layout imo.

@ryanpeyer1947

3 жыл бұрын

If only you could find wrist rests with that extra half inch to look flush with the board. If you know of any, please inform us!

@kremlinbasement7768

2 жыл бұрын

It's possible to accommodate everything in 60% but keyboard makers don't do it

@Polymath2B

2 жыл бұрын

@@kremlinbasement7768 If they tried to fit that extra column of a 65% on a 60%, I think it’d be pretty jank. Something like the sk64 manages to cram in arrow keys, but I don’t know where they would fit the extra keys

@kremlinbasement7768

2 жыл бұрын

@@Polymath2B check this: Arrows instead of right alt, fn, menu and ctrl (idk why right alt and ctrl exist) Fn on left side of keyboard so 4 keys on right and 4 keys on left of spacebar symmetry 😏 Home, end, pu, pd can be activated by Fn + arrow (it's even more convenient than separate keys) \ can be changed to print screen Menu and scr lock don't necessary cuz there's mouse Insert and pause (fun fact: u never use insert and pause)

@Polymath2B

2 жыл бұрын

@@kremlinbasement7768 A few keyboards have arrow keys instead of the right ctrl, fn, and menu, but then you need a smaller shift key like the sk64. And almost all keyboards use Fn layers to access home, end, page up/down, F1-12, and whatever else you might need.

Such a good video. Thank You Dmitri.

just seeing this now, but i wish i had seen it when i was buying my first keyboard. i let my "tech friend" influence what keyboard i got and i ended up getting a 60%. it worked great and i used it for a long time but i hated it because it lacked things that i wanted when i was gaming. i eventually stopped listening to them and upgraded to tkl and i honestly say i have never been happier. it might sound weird but having the dedicated arrow keys (along with the other features, but mostly the arrow keys lol) has been a HUGE improvement in my gaming experience. its really important to do your own research and buy what you think is best for you instead of "going with the crowd", or in this case listening to your friend who thinks they know everything. small is not always better and i'm glad i know that now. awesome video!

As a programmer, I use TKL because I need the Home, End, Page Up, Page Down, Delete, and arrow keys (trying to type out code on a laptop that don't have those dedicated keys makes it very apparent that I would be 30% less productive without them) However, after seeing the 75%, I'm tempted to try them out. The space savings look awesome. I doubt that I would miss Insert lol

@lynneftw

2 жыл бұрын

Only time I ever used the insert key was for word processing in the early '90s, lol. Then again, I code and don't use the page up, or page down keys either. I'm more accurate with my mouse for that.

@tooru

2 жыл бұрын

@@lynneftw you're a bad programmer

@lynneftw

2 жыл бұрын

@@tooru lol, am I now. Tell me more about me.

@Wylie288

2 жыл бұрын

@@lynneftw I don't use delete in programming. But I do need my delete key for stuff like Planet Zoo or many level/scene editors. Delete is now a gaming key apparently XD

@TheKingLunar

2 жыл бұрын

@@lynneftw For real haha, I honestly think the number of times I've ever purposely hit a key in the "home section" (is that what it's called?) in my 23ish years of computer use is less than 100. I'm still not even 100% sure what some of them are supposed to do, because it never seems to be what I'd expect when I press one thinking it might help. Just give me a keyboard form factor that replaces all 9 of those keys with the numpad (except the Print Scrn key, that's a vital 10-20 use per day key, just move it somewhere else).

I'm a big fan of the compact fullsize keyboards. I love having a numpad and the compact layout allows you to have that without having to compromise too much desk space.

You videos are really good and informative

I have an 1800 (I had no idea it was called an 1800, so thanks for that) from Keychron (K4 V2). Simply because it has almost everything to hand, but is also quite compact (I'm right handed, and I use the keypad) Best keys I've ever owned 👍

Haven't heard of the 1800 term but that's what I'm currently using with my Kono Kira keyboard. For me it's ideal as I really like the numpad for data entry and it's feels a lot more compact compared to most 100% boards.

Bought a 89 keys keyboard a couple months ago, same size as a TKL but instead of the Home cluster, there is a num pad with the Home cluster combined using the Fn key. It took a little while to get used to, especially the Del key, but really needed the num pad for work, so it’s a great compromise for me

Used to use a full-sized model m then switched to a model m space saver. Learned really quickly how much I used the number pad. Keychron Q5 and couldn’t be happier

Great video, thank you!

Number pad is important to me. It’s hard to imagine never needing one.

@thedislikebutton101

3 жыл бұрын

Could I ask why? I have a full size keyboard but I rarely use the number pad. I would still choose to have a full size keyboard because of media controls etc. But I don’t really use the number pad. Maybe I should be but that’s why I’m asking. Thanks

@JD-ey8hw

3 жыл бұрын

Its easy to imagine when almost every keyboard has a num row. Unless you're using it for work constantly its not that useful

@marcosvictor4935

3 жыл бұрын

@@thedislikebutton101 I myself rarely use the top number row, I just find it more comfortable to type in numbers on the numpad, plus there's the added benefit of muscle memory, I can easily hit numbers without looking down on the numpad, I can't do that on the top number row! I also like them for shortcuts and macros, there's a limited number of combinations you can do with only your left hand, eve tually you'll get to a point you can't type ctrl+"some key" because it's too far away for one hand only, the number pad gives me 17 keys very close to the mouse that I can easily lift off my right hand and hit them for macros and shortcuts. Finally, sometimes I need to type in a lot of numbers In a spreadsheet or something, doesn't happen often, but when it happens it's way more comfortable to type in the numpad.

@thedislikebutton101

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcosvictor4935 ah on thank you very much think I will start using the num pad a lot more now as what you are saying makes sense. Thank you

@HardwareCanucks

3 жыл бұрын

TBH I never use it - although friends of mine who love full-size say so because of passwords and data input. Otherwise that precious space is better used for a mouse. -D.

nice viddy. prefer the full size. I need my keypad for productivity. plus built in macros are nice, I dont need many so the standard 6 on size are all I need.

good video, very helpful ty!

Thank you for making this video, very helpful. I see I need the 40% one. It is the perfect size for a flight sim cockpit I'm building.

I had a 60% for a while, I loved it for gaming, not so much for work. I realized I really needed the numpad and arrow keys without having to use fn every time. I recently bought a Nuphy 96% keyboard and it's been such a game changer! I still use my 60% for gaming though because it gives my mouse more room.

@smievil

11 ай бұрын

trying to play games with fn for arrow keys feel like a mess, but being able to edit text with my right keyboard had feels really convenient, i guess it depends a lot on how comfy arrow keys are, and some button combinations can be quite messy or take time to get used to. one could also get a separate numpad which can also function like arrow keys. switching back to a full sized keyboard would feel awkward, a lot of the "full sized" i tried wasn't truly full sized either and lacking some button that made every day tasks more inconvenient, i don't really like moving my right hand between mouse and keyboard

@maplejungle

10 ай бұрын

@@smievil I use the wasd keys (left hand) for gaming, I just like the arrow keys for when I'm working or editing text. It felt a bit awkward at first to have an almost full size keyboard, but now that I've been using it for months, I can't imagine going back to 60% for work. It really depends on what kind of person you are and what kind of keys you need. For me the 96% layout is perfect, as I don't use the keys that are missing anyways. I was thinking of getting a separate numpad before, but that wouldn't have solved the issue of having to hold the function button to be able to use the arrows or having to constantly switch between the arrow and function keys, because I'd forget which one was active at the time. The only thing that is a bit awkward is the position of the right arrow key, as it is so close to 0 on the numpad, but it doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would.

@ethernet764

9 ай бұрын

Ha! I’m the opposite. I needed my arrow and function keys for games, but don’t need it for work.

@kabishnando4286

8 ай бұрын

@@ethernet764 can I ask what games u needed function keys on ?

@ethernet764

8 ай бұрын

@@kabishnando4286 MapleStory, Starsector, Factorio. It's mostly used for quicksave.

Thank you for covering the 1800 / 96% Keyboards! Right after I got my Razer Huntsman Mini I discovered them, only to find out there's very few options. I think this is untapped potential.

Thank you for the fantastic video

It looks very useful and nice🤙

I use all the keys during a "normal" day so a full size keyboard is always a must for me, but the 1800 looked interesting.

1800 makes perfect sense because you have all the keys of a full size keyboard while having it being essentially the same size a TKL. The only reason to choose a full size over it (ignoring the choice problem) is if you need to regularly use the delete key and the num pad at the same time. I do wish Coolermaster didn't discontinue their pro m line of the keyboards since it was basically the only mainstream 1800 layout option.

@Matt-vb3vx

2 жыл бұрын

Check out Iqunix F97. The best 1800 board out there that's readily available without a group buy lol

Great video, you just earned a new sub.

Full Size is still my favorite. I don't really notice the space issues in terms of desk/mouse, but I'm also not really a FPS gamer. The numpad is invaluable to me, I use it every day and can't imagine buying a keyboard without it. My laptop is kinda like a 60% with a function row on top, and I always struggle when I have to type numbers since my muscle memory is for a numpad.

Any profession that deals with numbers will probably need a numpad and the 1800 layout brings the numpad closer, making it easier to use and reduces the footprint of the keyboard without comprimising any functionality. I'm currently using the Keychron K4 V2 and absolutely loving it.

@fatihbilgeylmaz3966

Жыл бұрын

I deal with numberd and i'd like my numpad on the left side

@smievil

11 ай бұрын

don't work with numbers, but i feel like i'm pretty good at numpad but for now i'm not using my spare numpad and trying to use the string of numbers instead, it works i guess. feel like i really like the tactile layout of f1-f4 or numpad though. it's really easy to maneuver but not having to move my right hand much is nice too.

2:38 I believe that is called a 96%, the 1800 layout has a 1u plus on the numpad, I think it's to make space for scroll lock.

thanks for your tips and tricks

Love both 75% and 65%.. especially 75% because it looks so good and you can do more combination with custom keycaps

1800 / 96-key is the same length as ten-keyless with *no compromises*. Really the best layout.

@lucaspanto1442

3 жыл бұрын

That is straight facts

@Daniel-dj7fh

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucaspanto1442 as an ex 100%, now 60% user i fully agree

@TanmaySankolli

2 жыл бұрын

But damn those keys are so close together O_O

Been using 60% and got used to it. Although I do some data entry and it's not easy. I think the 65% is the smallest I'll go in the future. At that point probably go for a 75% as it only adds a little height.

@bmtphoenix

Жыл бұрын

There are separate USB ten key keypads that you can buy fairly cheaply.

I’ve been using the num pad for over 30 years so, you kids have fun with the small form factor, i wish i could

When I started working from home I had to adapt my Mac setup to my Windows work laptop. I ended up with a Logitech MX Keys, but I didn’t use the num pad even back then, so I preferred a TKL. Now I might actually be able to get a MacBook for work, and actually, I think I like 75% even better than TKL. So if I do get a MacBook, I might want to get a new keyboard. However I prefer one that connects to a dongle, because that dongle can then plug into my Thunderbolt dock so that any laptop I connect will see the keyboard directly. There’s not a lot of choice, given that it also has to have Mac keycaps. I could also go wired but I like an uncluttered desk.

Your thumbnail, the TKL keyboard is the only one rotated 180° off of the others

@MikeOnTrack

3 жыл бұрын

It too give me the conniptions.

@FuncleChuck

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah ow it hurts to look at

@autotropicplaybench1819

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe I'm overthinking it but could be attention to detail as it's his preferred layout for most people, so it stands out on the thumbnail without being clickbaity add a circle on it type Or maybe yeah it was just misplaced lol

Just in time , synchronised with my mind

@MICKYLEAKSMGR-PRESIDENTCJWORLD

3 жыл бұрын

HiveMind NeuraLink Simulation and Synchronicity I guess!🤷🏽‍♂️Lol

Thank you, you helped me make my decision to purchase.

My favorite is still what Coolermaster calls size M, which is essentially a fullsize keyboard without the buttons between the main keyboard and the numpad. The arrow keys and other functions are integrated into the numpad.

Ive had my GMMK Pro for a few weeks at this point and I absolutely love it. This is probably the smallest board Ill ever have. Has the arrow keys and F row that I need for my work.

@AliSherrr

3 жыл бұрын

How much did it cost with all the keycaps and such.

@ImARichard

3 жыл бұрын

@@AliSherrr a little under $300 for everything. Though you definitely can find switches and key caps that are cheaper. $175 for the GMMK pro, $50 for key caps(ones from glorious), and $60-70 for switches(boba u4 silent tactile).

@HappyRavenSomethingisbad

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like you have 50% keyboard Edit: corrected the spelling of keyboard

60% for production depends on the type. I noticed how it works perfectly for 3D software as the numbers are what you use and most functions are controlled with two buttons at once. For example ctrl/ alt/ shift/ space/ tab pressed with any letter will trigger a option or control so things like the delete button is basically unnecessary most of the time and sometimes won't even do anything depending on the software.

@staticbuilds7613

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianilabej317 I only used blender twice but this might explain why I was unable to move or do anything with it. I used things like Maya, substance, Zbrush, Marmoset and Unreal which usually require things like the Ctrl alt key + mouse movements to alter camera

Id love to try 65% but I am super happy with tkl for my use case. I think if I found a mechanical keyboard I was INCREDIBLY happy with I would use it for coding. I can't lie when it comes to a work environment I like how quiet and responsive a scissor keyboard is so its hard to figure out.

I'm personally a fan of 1800 compact since I like the num keys since I use them constantly, and like the space saving of it. Currently using a RK100 was super inexpensive, hot swap 5--pin supported mechanical with RGB, 2 USB As, wired/bt/2.4, and is more than good enough in build quality. Swapped out the switches for some transparent blacks, and love it.

I'm currently using a TKL, but I do miss the Numpad, as even over a year later I still find it annoying using the number row when I do some calculations (which I do frequently). Having the keyboard and mouse closer though feels a lot more natural for gaming, but I think a 100% with the Numpad on the left side would be my "ideal" keyboard layout.

@andreapacumaro1616

4 ай бұрын

A little late, but you may see this comment. Keychron Q12 ist just that

I use full size, I do use the 10 key part all by touch from work experience. I have big hands, so a smaller spaced keyboard is not to my liking. Great vid, thanks.

There's an argument to be made productivity wise with split ergo boards. Having a thumb cluster makes layers a lot more intuitive to access without losing a lot of speed. Just think about how fast you press your space bar

8:25 I found that I learned the Tartarus pretty quick as everything felt natural. So long as the game doesn't require a lot of keys it feels really fluid.

The 1800 layout is pretty great. The main point of it is that it's roughly the same size as a TKL, but retains numpad functionality. I love my FC980M and it's perfect for work.

@S0KE

2 жыл бұрын

agreed, it is just 1 column larger than a TKL, but having a whole numpad available is great for things like key mapping with something like autohotkey. Besides, you're barely missing any keys at all compared to a full size keyboard

@yuiyui2947

Жыл бұрын

same ive had my fc980m for 4 years now and its been excellent. thinking of getting a new one with different switches!

@Grimlo9ic

Жыл бұрын

@@yuiyui2947 Leopold quietly updated the line, they have Bluetooth now (FC980MBT). Hella expensive for a prebuilt though, but I've been eyeing a pretty cool colorway on Aliexpress.

75% is the best for me; I need the home cluster, arrow keys, and function row.

80% and TKL feels most useful to me. Thanks for detailed information.

For any sort of games and especially on a desktop I want a full size over 16 inch keyboard, because there is more division between keys and a numpad. Though a compact mouse for a laptop is really good and still somewhat ergonomic if you want to carry your laptop around.

TKL works best for me. I need to press function keys without looking at them. With the space between F4 and F5, I can confidently press F5 for example. The same goes for F12, Home, end, page up/down and arrow keys, etc.

I just love how 75 percent looks like, would love to have one

@eman7066

2 жыл бұрын

Royal Kludge RK84 is a really great feature packed 75% option! definitely check it out

I tend to have my keyboard at the opposite angle to yours when gaming, with the Enter/Return end pointing up. I also tend to rely on the numpad a fair bit for doing home accounts and for certain emulators that also use a numpad, such as WinAPE. My main keyboard is a Filco Majestouch 2 Full Size UK ISO keyboard with Cherry MX Blacks and Filco's own tall double shot ABS keycaps. Sound and feel reminds me of the BBC Micro Model B we used to have in the classroom at primary school back in the '80s.

Video helped me out! We good people thank you Dimitri!

@HardwareCanucks

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help! Good people unite

@bogdanneamtu12

3 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareCanucks Wow I'm in shock, thanks for responding! I love what you're doing!

I just built my first custom board about 2 months ago, going from a full 100% to 60% and at first it was daunting as hell but I've come to love it more than the 100% board. Plus the space I saved from the switch....SO MUCH ROOM FOR ACTIVITES!

@sandeepgautam3836

2 жыл бұрын

Did we just become best friends!

@mob9900

2 жыл бұрын

hgahahahaha

I prefer TKL because I never use the num pad and its really a really good option! Thanks for making this video, I have learned a lot! Thank You

The full-size Leopold and CODE keyboards come with removable USB cables (the latter even having a USB C one now). I gotta stick with full-size keyboards as they have a numberpad for data entry. Thank you for listing the shown keyboards in the video description! :D

5:16 what keyboard is that? Edit: Iqunix L80 for anybody else wondering

@jihangaban

3 жыл бұрын

thanks cap! couldn't find this myself. cheers!

@goomStar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for Research mate. Karma points increased! Much appreciated

@haziqridzwan5199

3 жыл бұрын

Just watching the keyboard is enough for me, the price is killing me!

Full size is still my preferred size, never had issues with lack of space, and all the extra options, numpad etc. are super useful outside of gaming.

@SigalDa

2 жыл бұрын

me to, i have lots of space in my table. full size keyboard its the best to my opinion.

@ZaHandle

Жыл бұрын

i prefer 75/TKL and standalone keypad for when you need it

Excellent video! Thank You! I am a TKL user...

My favorite is the 75% with the knob. Small yet still very usable. 👍

When in doubt, get a battleship.

For me personally I can use my mouse just fine without having to angle it with a full size keyboard but I'd still like a smaller one, I think they look better :)

This was really good

I've used an 1800, then a 75%, then 2 different 65% boards before eventually settling for a TKL. I still use a 65% for tasks that require to hunker down and type, but a TKL just fits for everyday use. Since I'm so deep into the hobby, I might as well just get one of each of the other common sizes.

Having a numpad never, ever hindered me in my entire gaming life. Maybe because I once made this amazing discovery that you are able to move your keyboard to the left a little. Anything smaller is just sacrificing functionality for aesthetics imo.

Full size keyboard anytime. How are you going to do a proper 2-player on MAME on other sizes?

@Daniel-dj7fh

2 жыл бұрын

map a holding Fn-key and then use wasd and ijkl as 2 sets of arrow keys

I'm super new the the whole modding community for peripherals, but I've been looking for new caps for my keyboard and I've found that most sets come with all the different sized keycaps

I loved my numpad but i got a 60% keyboard bc it had a bluetooth function for my ipad and it was an adjustment but im honestly surprised by how much i love it so i've been using it. I still have my full size in case i miss my numpad; the space saved though has been incredibly helpful with studying and gaming. I will say the keychron keyboard (fullsize) not having the screenshot function did lead me to buying the second keyboard that had one

I switched to the Tecware Phantom TKL after seeing it on Random Frank P's video and love it. Very inexpensive too.

@hadifelani

3 жыл бұрын

You should try the low profile variant as well, I have both Phantom 87 and Phantom L87, quite satisfied with them 😁

@perdomot

3 жыл бұрын

@@hadifelani Looks nice.

@hadifelani

3 жыл бұрын

@@perdomot I hope that they will release either the 84, 71, or 68 keys variant soon. And I will definitely buy them, wired or wireless. 😁

I cant use anything over 65% but prefer 60%, it's nice we have these choice :)

@hdofficials9733

Жыл бұрын

I just bought a 60% keyboard my hands are larger than the average person is this something i should be worried about? 💀

@Zesserie

Жыл бұрын

@@hdofficials9733 no it should be fine

I prefer 60% since i'm just used to it more and it just looks better in my set-up, I don't have much space on my desk and when I switched from 100% to 60% I noticed a huge difference in space, Also awesome video dude keep it up

Excellent video!! Thanks a lot!!! I tried 60% (Duck One 2 Mecha) and without delete and arrows keys I didnt like it. Then I bought a Razer huntsman, still big. Now I will try that 65% model of Razer.

I recently got a gmmk TKL so I could try out hotswappable switches. No regrets.

@Daniel-dj7fh

2 жыл бұрын

highly recommed milky yellows, i have milky blacks but they can feel abit heavy after time

@BryAlrighty

2 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh I did ended up getting gateron milky yellows. They're great. Even lubed and filmed em about a month ago.

@Daniel-dj7fh

2 жыл бұрын

@@BryAlrighty very good, do lube them if you find the time and havent done that yet

@BryAlrighty

2 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh I already said I did..

"I have yet to stumble upon a full size keyboard with a removable cable." My 31 years old IBM Model M has that, lol. :-D

@Appoxo

3 жыл бұрын

My 4 year old 80€ keyboard also want's a word with him...

@PureRushXevus

3 жыл бұрын

Wish my keyboards had these.. easier to take it outside to clean without undoing cable management

@kscurry

3 жыл бұрын

Keychron C2 has that

@jimvonmoon

2 жыл бұрын

Durgod K310 has detachable USB-C cable. I think all their keyboards have that.

I love me my full size keyboard with all the extra multimedia and shortcut keys. I think my current daily driver, a very ancient Microsoft "comfort keyboard 5000" has 125 buttons in total. I particularly love the dedicated volume up/down buttons and the dedicated calculator button, but what I like is that it's the standard full size US keyboard layout which I don't think I'm ever willing to get very far from. Sadly the membrane is wearing out, the feel is awful, so many missed keypresses and quite a few ghost clicks. So I decided it's time to do it right. This video is very informative, I wish I had found this a couple days ago when starting my hunt for a great keyboard... I absolutely need a numpad however I'm debating a TKL plus separate numpad or maybe even just a macropad with 16 keys and map one layer to the numbers and dedicate the push of a knob to open the calculator. If I go with a numpad included then I also want a control knob on the keyboard, if not then the knob goes on the pad, now I'm just debating if I go with a pad do I put the macropad on my right or on my left and learn how to do numerical entry with my left hand. I don't game much just data entry, CAD, GIS stuff and working with lots of tables and spreadsheets, however also like to do photo editing on my own time and am getting into mixing music so something that works for macros in DAW and general purpose. I also don't want to break the bank, seems ridiculous to spend more than $200 on a keyboard especially if I'm buying a separate numpad/macropad too, but the Keychron K10 Pro and V5 are looking appealing to me.

i prepered full size keyboard, because of the numpad its so easy to use it with that. btw i have the g915 and i love this so much. i have linear switch version and its grown on me, now i love the sound and the typing exprience on linear one.

Chris Pratt explains keyboard sizes: