Only KZread video I've seen without a single dislike. Mesmerizing!

very cool! I would like to suggest that (This from a former U.S. Navy sailor) you use a "Whipping" on your wick. The Whipping is strong enough that you wouldn't need any glue. It's virtually the same type of wrapping your doing, but you fold a loop underneath the wrap, at the end of the wrap you tuck the tail into the loop and pull. (this could get a little tough because it will be very tight). (look for whipping videos you'll get it...)

Sweet! I've always wondered how people make those rolled edge alcohol stoves. Can't wait to give it a try. Thanks, Rob.

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

Great Lakes Backpacker Keep your eyes out for the thicker bottles, they are getting harder to find. The new thinner ones work great for a Fancy Feast. Let me know how it goes!

Best video I've seen on making the Fancy Feast stove

Excellently well explained tutorial. Inspiring and simple. Used the car jack and works superbly. Thank you again.

Thanks for the tip on rolling the edge, turning the die works I see. I have lost many cans to rolling disasters. My cats love it when I make more Fancy feast stoves. Great video.

Thanks for the detailed video on the FF Stove. Mine came out perfect! Great little project and works fantastic. Keep up the videos!

Loved both of those stoves. Thank you!

Great video, very well explained

Excellent demonstration and explanation, thank you!

ErnestoT - thanks for the note and kind words. I like the fancy feast better. I do not sell them but here is a link to a gentlemen that does. He is the originator and it is Zelph StoveWorks (www.woodgaz-stove.com/fancee-feest.php) - I hope this helps.

@ErnestoT

9 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great Video....Love that rolled edge finish on the stove top....Thanks

nice method for doing the rolled bottle (double wall stove). Great jpb.

Great video Rob. I love the fancy feast stove, reliable and ready to go with no priming needed. Have a great trip this weekend and look forward to the video. Eric

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

MissouriMan1968 Hey MM, I agree the FF is a great performer. As you may have seen on the table, it had a bunch of DIY alcohol stoves and they all seem to make a trip or 2 each year. The FF will be on my trip this weekend - :) Cheers.

Always good to see a new 12T video. This one is super helpful, too!!

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

FreedomVan Perfect, I like that. 12TrySomething confused everyone so I went with my name. It was supposed to be one to try something - now get to making a stove! :) thanks for the note.

Great tutorial! Ill be building 5 of these for myself and my kids!

Great "DIY vid" not too long but covered all the stages perfectly. I will be making a fancee feast stove in the near future as soon as I can find the equivalent to a budweiser bottle in Australia. Thanks heaps.

Great, amazing, idea, process!!! Thanks!!! Good luck!!!

Fab video, thanks Rob. Great ingenuity - you do lovely neat work. Nice bit of recycling.

I enjoyed your video! Its very much a quality production!

The crimping part was my favorite! Amazing!

Great instruction. Thanks for sharing !

Good builds, I found on the Rolled stove that putting 4 Dents or notches on the top of the stop stove evenly placed with a pair of Needle nose pliers, helps it to be more fuel efficient, and using carbon felt fiber on the cat stove also works better than insulation.

looks great!!!!

Have you done a boil time with each stove? Curious as to which one is faster . Absolutely fantastic video!

Very nice video. You explain that well. I'll build that fancy feest clone.

Very well done, thanks

very nice job on the stoves ! thanks for sharing

@BackpackingAdventures

8 жыл бұрын

+mullz1 Thanks for that.

i have the exact same de burring tool-right down to the list endcap!

well done. diy rules. cheers, chris

Great video. Thank you.

Great video man! you really showed a lot of info on that and explained it very well! Thanks!

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that. It is unfortunate the bottles are getting harder to find.

Dear friend, this is a very nice and didactic video. You are really generous with details. Thanks a lot.

Fancy feast had the better continues blue flame. No spilling of alcohol with fancy feast enjoyable video.

very well done explained very well

Awesome instructional.

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that, I appreciate it. Time to save some cans and build away. :)

Nice job !!! I have got too a DIY alcohol stove !!!!! saludos de BILLIG CAMPER from Germany

Thanks for this. But there is a third stove I found you can make from that one beer bottle using an empty travel size can of Shaving cream and the neck of the bottle. So you could make three really good stoves out of one Bud aluminum bottle.

Nice tutorial, thanks

Very nice demonstration of the build.I have made the fancy feast with carbon felt. I don't have access to a press to make the rolled bottle so I bought a Bios from Tinny at minibull design many years ago. Nice stove.....Take care, Bluefin.

@BackpackingAdventures

8 жыл бұрын

+mustang774 Tinny makes great gear. I also enjoy his daily video blog. Thanks for the note.

@mustang774

8 жыл бұрын

+BackpackingAdventures I've been following Tinny for about 10 years now. I like his stoves.....Take care, Bluefin.

Awesome video Rob! Which would you say you prefer out of the two versions? I think the rolled can looks pretty cool but the fancy feast seems like it would boil water faster with the larger flame. I don't have the tools or space really to make one of these, would you ever consider selling one? I would really be interested. Thanks!

Great video! These are my 2 favorite stoves to make for friends and people interested in alcohol stoves. I have never tried the full roll for the bottle stove. Only using the top of the bottle as the inner wall. I am bummed though I can find the pop top bottles in colorado anymore only the screw cap type. The aluminum is thinner with these and just don't roll the same......

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

Seth Adrian I agree, they are great. They are getting hard to find for sure, I can still find them every now and again. Tinny is the only one I have seen that has figured out how to roll the new bottles. Thanks for the note Seth, stove on! :)

Excellent video

Nice! What size wicking do you recomend? 1/16?

nice video I learned alot in a short time thank you.

@BackpackingAdventures

8 жыл бұрын

+Perry Kibby Thanks Perry. Let me know if you give either of them a go.

GREAT video THANKS for info

excellent vid, thanks for sharing, ill have to see if I can find one of the bottles, I have the fancy feast stove made with a hole puncher but it seems to use more fuel than these designs

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

Erik Giggey Thanks Erik. If you are just looking to make a fancy feast the newer bud light bottles work fine. In fact there is enough in 1 bottle to make 3 fancy feast stoves. The newer ones cut easier than the ones I used.

Great video. Clear easy to understand instructions. I have made 3 fancee feest stoves myself. I used hairspray on the fiberglass cloth before cutting to keep down the fraying. I went with a stainless steel mesh lantern globe for the inside. I couldn't seem to find the bud bottles around here.

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

mark partain Thanks Mark! I agree, hairspray works well. I cut mine with scissors and go slow, haven't had much problem with fraying until I go to fold and place on insert. Going forward the new bud light bottles (thinner aluminum) work equally as well. Happy stoving!

@foomannchu

7 жыл бұрын

I used pipe insulation ($5 decent size roll) that has aluminum on one side already adhered. Just cut it down and place the shiny side out. Mine has worked fine. The roll will last for lots and lots of stoves too! no messing with adhesives

Awesome 👍

so there Is a use for Budweiser beer 'nice work, well explained - editing dept. gets an A =

Excellent. Vid. You stayed on point without giving extra details like how you use it or how it all works in the field. Just how to make it. I wish more folks could do it the way you did. Also, good video techniques and the sound stayed spot on. I give it 4 out 5 stars. I docked a star because there was no hot girlfriend in a bikini, although the scarecrow couple came close.

Hey, you get pretty fancy with the construction...I am envious...lol. Great job brother, I definitely enjoyed watching and am looking forward to your next video from the trail. Take care...make sure you take the harmonica along as well, I just loved that!

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

WoodsTrekka' Haha - fancy... Thanks for that, the next trail video is being shot this weekend....I can't wait! Harmonica will be in the bag! Thanks for the view and comment.

@WoodsTrekkinAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

Welcome ...I am definately lookin' forward to hearin' them blues....

very interesting and pratical.

@davidsawmandave8731

3 жыл бұрын

I bought one from zepth stoves , he used a stainless insert (very thin) , It boils very fast 1 oz of alcohol for 2 cups of water , have some flame left after u get a rolling boil

Nice going on the video, and showing goof at the end :) Makes us all human and trying to understand stuff. Would be great to do an A/B comparison on same volume H2O, and same volume of fuel, trying various fuels, and put it all together on which one is a better solution to a new mouse trap.

One of the best videos I've seen on how to make both types of stoves. I've made Fancy Feast stoves using a tomato paste can & carbon fiber felt. I put 4,... 1/8" long, slits in the bottom of the tomato paste can with a Dremel cut-off disc so the alcohol can get up into the felt. I noticed you did not do that in your stove. Am I correct or did I just miss it?

@raymondhaskins4978

5 жыл бұрын

surfandstreamfisher. You missed nada. Did not make the cut.

I've never made either. After watching your very nice video, I'm going to make both. SERIOUS QUESTION: Is the priming wrap absolutely necessary on the rolled stove?

@robertcwillifordii2630

4 жыл бұрын

A wrapped priming wick is not "necessary", however I highly recommend using external priming fluid on (most) every alcohol burner (whether you use it spread around the burner or absorbed into a wrapped wick is a personal preference, since both manners will accomplish the goal), to dramatically decrease the blooming time for the burner, since the alcohol is being heated from both the inside and outside of the gassifying chamber. Either method of reducing the bloom time maximizes your limited cooking fuel, when lacking an external fuel supply feeding line (with a fuel feeder, using external priming fluid is NOT an option, you just have to wait, but the burner will continue to burn as long as you keep feeding it fuel).... so there's a trade-off. Differently designed burners have different fuel efficiencies when it comes to actually heating and cooking, so know that there are many variables in using an alcohol burner, but two common elements of maximizing fuel efficiency are using a pot lid and windscreen for heat retention (because that's the name of the game: Heat Retention).

Well done!! I have several bottle stoves but I love my Fancy feast stove! Thanks for the tutorial!

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

Hey Tom, thanks for watching along. The fancy feast is a winner for sure. They are pretty easy to make and for only $15 buying from Zelph is great also. Heading to the woods Saturday for a night...can't wait!

@jamesaritchie2

8 жыл бұрын

+BackpackingAdventures For fifteen dollars I can buy a Trangia clone that has several advantages over any Fancy Feast stove. The only advantage a Fancy Feast stove has is that you can make it yourself for a buck, or even for free.

@TomsBackwoods

8 жыл бұрын

+James Ritchie Every stove has there pro's and con's but That's not the only advantage!The fancy feast stove is lighter, has a built in pot stand, and boils water quicker in my experience!

Nice how to

Sweetness!!!

Which was more fuel efficient?

You sir, are awesome! Thanks for showing us how you did it. I'm curios. How long does the wicking last?

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

:) cheers. The wicking will last longer than I will...at least that is how I am seeing it so far. Now, will you be showing us your build of either one of these? Will you accept the challenge?

@OutLan

9 жыл бұрын

BackpackingAdventures Heh, might be tough for me. I don't really have a workshop area or the right tools for this. Maybe I can throw something together, but I'd rather get it from you :-)

Out of curiosity would there be a way to roll your wick into the bud stove (glued to inside the top rim maybe) so that when you pour your alcohol in it would wick into it and you wouldn't have any waste?

A drill press makes a good press for the bottles. put a piece o f woof on top, the retrat the jaws of the chuck and press down on the wood

Just a few questions - What was your wrapping wick diameter (1/8th or 1/16th), number of holes you drilled in the rolled edge can, and results for the burn times? I've done a few rolled edge bottles and I pretty much have the same arbor press, mine bottles kept crunching, so I'm going to try the continuous twisting / lubricating of the die, hopefully that helps! Great video, keep them coming!!

sorry if you covered this somewhere, but what is the distance between your burner holes on the paper template?

You can use carbon felt in the fancy feast stove too

Thanks for a great video. I have a couple of questions for you. What are you running on your saw for a blade? Looks like maybe an abrasive wheel. Also, can you give any more information on how you remove the inner edge from the cat food can? Thanks again!

@BackpackingAdventures

8 жыл бұрын

+Scott Furr It is just a simple cut off blade for cutting tile. It cost like $5. Take one of the "safety" can openers to it instead of using the pull tab. Thanks for watching.

Good Job Idol

Nice.

Cool

Excellent instructions......we don't have Aluminium beer bottles in the UK so will have to search for the biggest I can find

@michaelg.294

5 жыл бұрын

If you'd like I could send you a couple!

@jeremynorman5329

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelg.294 That is kind indeed...but way too much postage I fear. I am trying to find someone who works on one of the US bases around here

no hole/notch on the inside bottom of the fancee feast to let alcohol wick up?

Could you explain to me what is the use of the fiberglass cord for the realization of the Rolled Bottle? It is not to burn by moving it or it acts as a wick? Thank you, you work very well!

@CanItAlready

5 жыл бұрын

That's for priming the stove.

Nice video. I may have missed it, but how high is the pot support above the stove edge on the FF?

@brock8199

7 жыл бұрын

The cut off portion of the budweiser can is the pot support.

Rob, Thank You for one of The Best tutorials I've seen to this date, kinda missed the loud and crappy 'muzak' and gratuitous finger pointing, but will learn to live without it, Ha, Ha. I made a form to press the cans together with a 1/4" X 5" dia. piece of steel with a 1/4" X 2" round head bolt through the center of the steel plate and then used my drill press in lieu of a regular press - but eventually will buy a press or set up one of my bottle jacks to do the job as I am building a few dozen alcohol heaters and lamps for the 'homeless' in my City so need to keep them as simple and quick to make so I can get them distributed - along with some tarps so they can have DIY tent to use them inside to stay warm and not be in the dark, and YES there will be a way to ventilate the tarps to provide fresh air. Anyway, Thank You for sharing your technique on how to "roll" the edge of a can.

Can someone help me understand the purpose of the fiberglass wick around beer can stove? Is it to get the jets going? I am thinking that's what it is, because in the edit (after it gets going) the wick is no longer burning...which makes me think that it's not doing anything at that point. Thx!

What kind of alcohol do u use?

Did you have to drill ports at the bottom of the Fancy Feast insert in order to admit fuel to the fibre glass wick ??

@SouthernPatriot1

5 жыл бұрын

Seamus3051 no he didn’t do that, which in every other build there are slots cut in on the bottom of the inside can to allow the wick faster wicking...or at least he didn’t show doing it.

It's a KZread video I was watching called "No Electircity Needed Heater" she says using crisco makes the candles more efficient more effective.If that's possible you can save money.I will use bigger candles for that experiment and bigger flower pots.And put a metal tea pot filled with water on top with a vent over it with a fan to blow the steam.And carry some extra tea bags and some sugar and try using a metal pot that don't rust.You can Google pots that don't rust and it will give you the names of the pots that don't rust.

If you’re making more than one of these you could drill a hole in a beer cap and put a bolt through, lock it in with a nut, Chuck it in your drill, and attach the bottle. Now grab a piece of sandpaper and pull the trigger and you can sand the whole bottle in a couple minutes

I can’t get the die off the can once I press it on there. Would you be willing to sell that end cap? :)

Great video I plan on making a fancy feast stove this was helpful. Thanks for sharing.

Great video! These are the two stove designs I'm most interested in constructing. I'm curious though, how is the alcohol fed into the inner wall of the Rolled Bottle stove? I watched the video a couple times and I don't believe you covered this one little bit of info. Did you stop the roll right before bottoming out? Or did you drill some feeder holes on the inside wall, down near the bottom?

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

I love lamp Thanks for the note. When you double the sides over it creates a bit of an uneven edge that doesn't allow it to form a tight seal on the bottom.

@ilovelamp6642

9 жыл бұрын

Got it, thanks!

Awesome video. Left us hanging on the final detail. Boil times. The fancy feast looks like it has more uniform flame. Which one boils faster? P.S. do you have a 2qzq backpack table? Want to lay hands on one before I pick up that luxury item. Thanks

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe, you just have to build one of each and see :) (they are both similar in boil times at about 6ish minutes). I like the fancy feast better due to no need to prime and all alcohol goes to the pot. I do not have a 2QZQ table but I do know they are great as I have seen one and messed with it. I have the tree table from Klaussinator (klaussinator.com/?page_id=1272 ) and really like it as well.

@joeandrews1957

9 жыл бұрын

The gauntlet has been laid. Will be cheating as I still have the rolled can stove you gave me at the N/P meet and greet. Thank you again.

I'm a bit confused. I've seen the fancy feast made with carbon felt as the wick and a tomato paste can. Do you place the fuel in the can and in the carbon felt wick?

@jamesaritchie2

8 жыл бұрын

+Brian L Carbon felt is outdated. There's a ceramic cloth that works much better. It has much better heat resistance, and never shrinks, as carbon felt eventually does.

Nice demonstration, but I would've liked to see their boil times.

Camera falls over - guess we know what he did with that bottle of Bud..... What was the wicking material on the Bud stove? What is the usable difference between the fancy feast flame and the jet flames of the Bud stove? I noticed the spacing between the bottle and the cat food can is very small. I guess you cannot use carbon felt in the gap?

Awesome! That fiberglass cloth is a @&$?! to work with. I got hair spray to spray on it before I even cut it. I lost so much trying to cut a piece the right size. The spray adhesive is an excellent addition. I think I'll use both. Spray a large section of cloth with hairspray, cut my small piece then use your method. I had ordered an arbor press from Harbor Freight (probably the same one) but decided I'm more fond of the Fancy Feast. Shug swears by it! Now, your next challenge? Perhaps a simmer ring for Fancy Feast like Zelph's!!

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

North Country Outdoor Guys Thanks Ben. I don't have problems with the fiberglass, I simply use sharp scissors and go slow - not sure why I am lucky with it. Now, once you start to work with it and fold and wrap it is a different story...the adhesive is the ticket. I really like the fancy feast but to be honest, I generally bring a different DIY stove each trip. I just like em all I guess. Challenge accepted!

@SouthernPatriot1

5 жыл бұрын

A summer ring could be easily manufactured from a beer can or soda can.

@SouthernPatriot1

5 жыл бұрын

Simmer* ugh spell check

Do you think this version of Fancy Feast stove works better than the old version using holes punched in the side?

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

Johnny Benge Yes, I believe it has a better flame that is less impacted by the wind (although you must use a wind screen with each) and due to the wicking material the stove lights even in cold weather. In fact the FF has been used at temps as low as -40F by Shug. I hope this helps.

@johnnyb.1515

9 жыл бұрын

BackpackingAdventures Thanks!

What purpose does the fiberglass wicking serve on the rolled bud can?..... wait, never mind. Stove starter.

DO they still sell those bottles? I have not been able to find them here in the Utica NY area.

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

It is getting harder to find them. Most recently I have seen the Michelob Ultra version, not the Bud or Budlight. I hope you find them.

@BackpackingAdventures

9 жыл бұрын

Also, if you just want to make the fancy feast you can use the new style bud light bottles. They work equally as well.

Fancy feast handson

What pots were you using?

@BackpackingAdventures

8 жыл бұрын

+Chris Cheng they are Imusa pots from Walmart

I didn't see u cut a v notch in the fancy feast , on the pot stand

Can you make a rolled stove without that machine?

I want to describe a stove that I made after several years of R&D, for you. It was based upon your own design. I needed power and longevity of burn time for the outdoors. I needed to make Coffee, breakfast and hot water after that on one burn. Yet remain lite and compact to carry easily in my cook set. My stove is well over 45 min of burn time, usually about 54min burn time. I used a large sized , used Sterno canister for the base. I brazed in a smaller (you can JB weld this) a taller can upside down with the original top removed and fuel vanes added for flow down inside. The inside can ( heated pressurized fuel reservoir) is basically sealed once the pot or pan is placed on top. I packed the inbetween space with fiberglass insulation to the top level of the Sterno base can. The final part was to drill a 1/8th fill hole in the top of the braised center can bottom (which is now the top) to add fuel. This acts as the huge fuel tank , and low pressure heat expansion chamber. Of course the fiberglass is the flame ring just like your "Feest" stove and the principal is the same. However, the fuel volume is massive and there is an inherent preheat and charge with this design that acts more like a natural gas burner in efficiency and burn time. I have other alcohol stoves just like you. However, this is my go to must have HOG burner that out cooks all others for time and efficiency.

@pamm2230

5 жыл бұрын

Can you or someone please do a how-to video to show this version?

@furkids4ever

5 жыл бұрын

Yes pls - would love to see a video on that. Sounds a bit like a spin off of the penny stove ...

@HaikuAutomation

5 жыл бұрын

Try much less splainin' and more showin'

I like the empty Labatt's Blue case behind you. Good choice in beer ;)

you could hide both ends of the wick if you used a rope whipping method.

Tge Fancy Feast is the best and most fuel efficient tove for the money. The rolled bottle is not worth the effort. E 8000 works better and holds longer. I would use a priming cup instead of wrapping wick. Carbon felt works best as a wick for Fancy Feast stove and a tomato paste can cut down for the insert works better cut to where an inch sticks up past the cat food can is the sweet spot

Can you make me one of these I'll pay. Let me know I'll pay. Great video