I never would’ve thought of that rock channel! I’ve been doing something similar with some pvc. Next time I repot my little bog I’m definitely going to do your method

@monke1919

2 жыл бұрын

The rock?

@tylerholmes8547

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree I have been using pvc for my sip / self watering / bog containers . The rock idea is so much cheaper and better looking.

Thank you for posting this video! This is exactly what I was wanting to build but didnt know where to start! Edit: not 12 hours later I am putting my bog together. So much for "self control" lol

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Yay! I’m so glad!!!

I hit like because you said "Unglazed" ceramics. That was exactly what I wanted to know when I came here. Gonna watch more of the video just to see if there's anything else I've missed in other digging I've done on the internet. TY

@California_Carnivores

Ай бұрын

I’m so glad to hear that!

Its interesting hearing Americans mentioning Adrian Slack, I met and had a long chat with him at the Chelsea flower show many years ago whilst i was working on the uk carnivorous plant society display stand, he seemed such a nice guy and his plants were amazing

@California_Carnivores

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! He’s a horticultural hero for us! That’s so cool!

Hi, I'm from Germany! I am so excited about your idea with the bigger stones. I have a PVP pipe in my bog, but I will change it to your idea with the stones. In my bogs and my bog garden I have a lot of plastic pots upside down on the ground of the bogs. It saves peat and you get a water reservoir. The capilarity holds the peat wet. Nice video and an georgeous flytrap and very nice Nepenthes.

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Hi! That’s a great idea! Thanks for sharing!

@danieljackson4266

2 жыл бұрын

Can you explain a little more about this idea?

New to your channel. The algorithm popped it in my feed. I thought it was an SNL skit from the thumbnail because Kate looks quite a bit like Heidi Gardner at a glance. Nice vid!

Love this!! So informative and beautifully done. The river rock cylinder is GENIUS! Thanks for the great video.

I’m trying to start my own carnivorous plant garden so thank you!!

Saving this for when I have a backyard one day! Thanks for all of the detailed information!🥰

How in God's name did that venus fly trap behind her get that big! I would LOVE THAT

@ashtanga2000

3 жыл бұрын

I did a spit take when I saw it, lol

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a big sculpture - we have a bunch in the nursery and I always forget they’re in the videos 😂

@orcfig47

3 жыл бұрын

@@California_Carnivores I was losing my cahoots when I saw that thang!

@tminusliv

3 жыл бұрын

Aw man! Lol i was so in love too.

@stevengreen9234

3 жыл бұрын

venus child trap

Nice job, your plants look lovely!

I bought several plants from. You guys. Love it.

This is awesome. I'm getting some peat immediately. I've killed 2 or 3 fly traps over the years, I prefer tropical plants, mostly ones that vine or creep. Tradescantia varieties, pothos and aloe are my favorites. But I bought another venus fly trap last year sometime and managed to keep it alive in perlite and spaghnum moss bog but those dry out so fast. I was sure my husband had killed it by forgetting to water it when I was gone, but i trimmed it, and put it in the fridge for winter. Darn thing is still alive lol, since it's out of the fridge now have to keep it alive again lol. Peat looks alot better than spaghnum. And that rock channel is brilliant!

I love your technique on the water tunnel thing

i kinda got into plants because of fish keeping but one day your guys channel popped up and I've been hooked eversince

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

😊

Great work on making the bog. I've learned alot and my venus fly trap is growing and thriving

This channel is gonna blow up soon I just know it! Awesome video

I didn't know you guys had a KZread channel!! How cool!! I live in Mississippi, but I visited your place when I was out visiting with my grandkids. We enjoyed it so much! . Subscribed now!

Such a cool nursery!

Beautiful pitcher plants!

Love that sculpture of VFT behind you so cool

I clicked out of curiosity, I stayed because you start out with laughter, and just like that you made my day.

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! 😊

Nice information 👍🏻 thank you So much ☺️💕🐾🐕🌹🌿

Awesome! I love your videos, they're so informative :)

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! We're so glad you find them helpful. :)

Gorgeous bog!

I’m watching this at 1am and I should really be sleeping. Worth it

Awesome idea 💚💚😍💚💚

I am building one of these right now except I put a nursery pot in the middle for the water. I know it takes up a lot of space but I like the look.

Great ideas!

That’s awesome thank you

Great Peter cameo 😉😉😉

@kratsatlu

3 жыл бұрын

I have a copy of Savage Garden from the early 2000s, and when I first heard California Carnivores mentioned, I thought that sounded familiar...great book. So cool to see the greenhouses where the passion for such plants is shared by you all!

great video!

I kept looking the various types of nepenthes behind Kate and Alison

im considering getting into temperate pitcher plants after finding out Alberta is home to S purpurea, I had no idea we had carnivorous plants here. Apparently there are a couple species of sundew here too

And that's why I wouldn't fill my pot all the way full your moving around too much soil you can fill it three-quarters spread out the roots a little bit more you don't have to dig so much and then you can use the water to help compress and settle the soil that's why I always recommend a drain plug even though it's a bog planter I can flush the system if anything seems out of whack after all dogs do flood out right nothing like flooding your bog and then give it a day and then training it

I followed your guide completely l. Only difference is that I used 3-4 inches of perlite for the water table instead of pumice. I just couldn’t find enough pumice to fill the containers that I purchased. Thanks a bunch!!!!!

The rock channel idea is great!

I think I'll do this whenever I recover my collection again (there was an outbreak which caused me to lose pretty much half of my American carnivorous plants. Some were okay but the others are definitely going to need time to recover)

@georgetrevor8167

3 жыл бұрын

What killed them?

@DanteTimberwolf

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgetrevor8167 surprisingly the very thing they're supposed to be killing. Bugs.

@dpetty3461

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanteTimberwolf How did you stop the outbreak, or did it stop on its own?

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I'm smittens about Kate 😍

@bn5445

2 жыл бұрын

she has gorgeous pitchers.

hello from france ,very nice cephalotus behind you !

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Hi! 😁

great!

we also use peat and perlite

Yasssssss. Finally, next can you please make vid on cephalotus care as requested?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

It’s on the list and we will make the video when we release the Cephalotus for sale later this year 😊

@kyawthuta9058

3 жыл бұрын

@@California_Carnivores glad to her it! Although I can’t buy it 😢😢😢

@cjtuba1

3 жыл бұрын

Also the Cobra Lily please, seems to be so many varieties of substrate, white posts etc and other advice. Cheers, Chris, UK. X

Someone told me absolutely wait until dormancy to prevent root rot! I was told this after the fact. It was way over due for reporting, it broke through a 6in pot... I didn’t snap the rhizome though. I hope it doesn’t turn ugly. I’m an hour south of y’all... fingers crossed (did it yesterday)

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

You can definitely repot Sarracenia at any point during the year safely. The main reason we suggest you do it in winter is that the plants are not actively growing during that time. When you repot now, you’ll see some pitchers die back and growth will slow as the plant adjusts to being repotted. That’s all totally okay! The plant will still appreciate being repotted.

Hello! You all post beneficial videos and have given my husband and me some inspiration. I'm really excited to give it a try at making a Florida carnivorous plant bog)! I do have a question. It looks like there are small holes near the top of the container. Is that to prevent Inundation while maintaining saturated soils?

@California_Carnivores

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊 we do drill holes near the soil line so that the rains don’t flood the bog too much in winter

Absolutely LOVE all of the videos from ya'll.... I purchased the bog garden kit from you last year, and it looks like I'll mosdef need to expand this year... Any idea of the dimensions on the pot you used for this video, or even a link to buy a couple? I've been searching all over and haven't had any luck.......

@California_Carnivores

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! This is a similar planter in size and style Classic Home and Garden S1027D-037Rnew Whiskey Barrel Planter, 20.5", Kentucky Walnut smile.amazon.com/dp/B08HW2WQSJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_QJEESKGPA7J1PS31364N

Love the videos as always. Quick question though. When you are essentially bottom watering, like with this or the tray method, do you worry about the top layer of soil drying out? Or is it not an issue because where the roots are is wet?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

If you keep this well watered, the top layer of soil will usually keep moist as well but you can top water occasionally to maintain that.

@justjess6636

2 жыл бұрын

Also, watering from the bottom can prevent insects from laying their eggs in the top soil and the larvae eat the roots :O

I have something similar with bromeliads!

Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I love the way you designed that rock tunnel for watering. That's brilliant. My question is around creating a multi species bog and trying to make it look like it would be found in nature. Let's say I have pitcher plants, sundews and flytraps. Should I group all of the same plants together or spread them out so the layout is random? I guess they'll start to mix and mingle eventually so maybe it doesn't matter how they're planted? Maybe I should do species specific setups. :-)

@California_Carnivores

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I like to keep the shorter plants in the front or on the sides that will get the sunlight. The Sarracenia can shade out the flytraps and sundews so that’s the one thing I think about when placing them!

@nortok00

Жыл бұрын

@@California_Carnivores Thank you so much. I didn't think about the shade factor so I will keep that in mind. Now I realize I probably have to do some rearranging. :-)

How much water do you keep in there how do you know when they need more water

great video! do you recommend building in drainage? like a spigot in the bottom to prevent anaerobic 'buildup' in the planter. Like maybe flush the system every few weeks? thanks!

@California_Carnivores

2 жыл бұрын

It’s totally up to you! We have a bog video all about building a draining bog and it is an easier bog to care for. The non-draining ones are harder because you have to frequently water in summer but they can be very fun!

I really love the idea of using river rocks instead of PVC tubes like I’ve seen with other bog gardens, but I’ve read that some rocks could leach minerals into medium. Do you run that risk using river rocks? I really want to try this out.

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

These kinds of rocks don’t leach minerals but it is a good idea to rinse them off first

Would you guys ever restock the sleeveless Venus flytrap shirt Kate’s wearing? It looks super cool!!

@California_Carnivores

2 жыл бұрын

That’s actually our regular tshirt and she cut the sleeves off!

Awesome video, putting together my big now. Some videos suggest lots of drainage holes but this one didn't. Is that because of the size of the bog? Anyway, thanks for all this information.

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

We have another bog building video and that’s a draining bog - they are often easier to care for. Many people had requested this non-draining bog tutorial. For a bog this size it does best non-draining for sure!

I love the video and I'm thinking of buying three whiskey barrels to make a bog garden. I have two questions when it comes to perlite and moss should the mixture be 20 Perlite and 80 percent moss? Should I make barrels their own species (Venus, pitcher, and sundews) or each barrel with all three plant types?

@California_Carnivores

Жыл бұрын

I’m so glad you enjoyed this video! I would recommend lining the barrels with plastic pond liner, peat moss is acidic and it will eat away at the wood otherwise. We do about four parts peat moss to one part perlite in our mix. You can mix the genus’s together but they can crowd each other out so it may be nice to do a mixed planter and then a few genus specific ones

i feel as though a drainage hole between a third to two thirds of the way up on the side would be a big improvement to the design and make it a more long term installation, or this but with drainage holes and a tray

@California_Carnivores

2 ай бұрын

We prefer less drainage because we grow our plants outside in zone 9b where it gets quite hot and we need to bog to hold a lot of water. Having lower drainage holes or sitting in a tray would mean we would be watering it every day or even twice a day

How do you know how often you would need to water? Would you just feel the dirt to see if it needs more water? Great video!

@California_Carnivores

Жыл бұрын

In the summer, almost every day. You want to soil to always be moist and not dry. It can dry out a little but try to avoid it getting so dry that the soil pulls away from the sides of the pot

Hi! Just wondering if this were to be outside, how would one come about battling fungal gnats? Because they will be attracted to the wet soil! I hope to do a bog in the near future, great video!!

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

We rarely see fungus gnat infestation outside but it is possible. If you add a sticky plant like a sundew to your bog, it will eat the adult fungus gnats.

@nannybannany

3 жыл бұрын

I LOVED pinguicula indoors with my houseplants to combat gnats. They are so effective!

Oh hey that bog pot looks like my bog pot!

You mentioned they like being outside in full sun, is there an upper limit for temps they will tolerate? It gets really really hot here in the summer (occasionally over 110) and I worry they won’t make it through a heat wave

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

They don’t mind high temps as long as they have lots of water. It can get over 100 in our zone as well (last year we had one 112 day 🥵) as long as it’s not sustained for weeks on end, and they have lots of water, they’ll be okay.

@brittanymier6916

3 жыл бұрын

@@California_Carnivores awesome! That makes me so happy to hear!

I have a bunch of CPs that are currently in 4" pots. What size pot would you recommend for a bog garden and how many of those sized plants would you put in there? I'm struggling with learning pot sizing (height, width) and have consequently killed a couple of plants when I put them in too-big containers. Also, for smal plants this size, would you recommend a draining bog garden or a non-draining bog garden?

@California_Carnivores

2 жыл бұрын

You can fit 5 or so plants into a 12” wide pot (it depends a little on the indivisible sizes of the plants) with a depth of at least 4”. Draining pots that sit in a deep saucer are often easier to care for as you do not need to monitor them as closely so I would start with that!

Is it a good idea to have venus fly traps in the same bog as droseras? since fly traps require dormancy, I'm not sure if I should keep droseras at low temperature with the traps.

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

You can include the temperate Drosera like tracyi, filiformis, intermedia etc

Very cool! Are there any peat free mixes you’d recommend? I’m going to be making a bog but would prefer peat free, to lessen the environmental impacts of harvesting peat

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

I recommend checking with the UK carnivorous plant society as they have been doing a lot of research on alternatives!

@arelucio

2 жыл бұрын

Great question. I'm looking into this now.

@arelucio

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Would love to see a video on how you'd prepare a bog garden without using peat, and instead using some of the alternatives...maybe coco coir??

I am thinking of building one of these for my Venus fly traps. I am in plant hardiness zone 6b. Would they survive the winter in a bog garden like this if I cover them with burlap & leaves? We usually have consecutive nights of below-freezing temperatures.

@California_Carnivores

Жыл бұрын

Check out our video on temperate dormancy for cold climates: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jK5-mcyqaayag7w.html

Now I just need to find a place that sells all these carnivorous plants here in Hawaii. Also, for pitcher plants: are you supposed to fill the pitcher with water, or will it do it on its own?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

We do ship plants to Hawaii and have all the required permits 😁 you can add a little distilled water to Nepenthes pitchers and that is helpful for them. Sarracenia pitchers usually don’t need to be filled.

Can you winter your bog outdoors in a zone 6 climate or should it be brought inside?

@California_Carnivores

Жыл бұрын

You’ll want to heavily mulch it in. You can over winter it outside but put 4-6” of mulch on the top and, most importantly, the sides. You want to protect the sides so that the roots don’t freeze!

I wouldn't compress and fill my pot so full right away off the bat before planting and to I use a PVC pipe for my watering Pole straight down the center and then I can use a plastic piece of Styrofoam at the end to see if there's water in the bottom of my pot

Any suggestions for here I can find a bag of pumice that big? I’ve checked my local nursery’s but haven’t found anything that big. I’m local to Sonoma county

@California_Carnivores

Жыл бұрын

Home Depot sometimes has it or Harmony should have large bags of pumice!

Do you have any recommendations for alternatives to peat moss since current harvesting methods cause mass environmental destruction? I don't want to support that but I would love to try growing my own carnivorous plants.

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

We don’t currently have a great option other than long fibered sphagnum moss but the Carnivorous Plant Society in the UK is working on finding good alternatives

Hello I got a nepenthes from you guys and it’s called nepenthes spectablils x tenuis

Are you picking specific types of rock to the bottom that won’t dissolve minerals into the water?

@California_Carnivores

Жыл бұрын

We like to use pumice or lava rock because they’re lighter and these bogs weigh a lot so reduction in weight is great. Most landscaping rocks need a good rinsing but won’t break down over time so they should be safe to use!

I'm building a vft bogg is zeolite pool filter sand safe to use, I cant find any info

@California_Carnivores

11 ай бұрын

That should work well!

Would this setup be good for places like San Diego? I keep hearing it needs more humidity so I'm worried these plants including sundews and venus fly traps will die if I don't cover them up

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Sarracenia and flytraps do really well in San Diego! They don’t need humidity and will be able to grow outside, year round in your location

@KagusakiUrufu

3 жыл бұрын

@@California_Carnivores Awesome thats great to know! :D

What US zones would you say it's okay to winter these outside in?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

You can over winter them with no protection in zones 8-12 with some caveats. If the temperatures drop below 20 for sustained periods, you’ll want to mulch them in heavily on the top and sides. And if temperatures do not drop into the 50’s you’ll need to do a fridge dormancy. In zones lower than 8, you can leave them outside but mulch like crazy!

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Could you by change tell me where you get that large bag of pumice I'm worried about buying a bag of sand Some companies do such Thank you

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

We get our supplies from local nurseries like Harmony Farm Supply and nursery/landscape suppliers like Grab and Grow. There may be something similar in your area.

This is so cool! Because they need a winter dormancy, is it correct to assume that bogs can be outside in the winter?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Depending on your temperatures, yes! We are in zone 9b so it is perfect for leaving this bog outside year round

@sabinagallier7251

3 жыл бұрын

@@California_Carnivores Cool! I'm a few hours north of y'all in the same zone so should work! Thanks!

@tminusliv

3 жыл бұрын

What if your zone is 8a ? Will them being outside during winter be bad?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

@@tminusliv They can take brief freezes in winter because they are dormant but if it’s going to last for more than a few days, they’ll need protection

Can I grow a bog in Minnesota? Like bring it in and place it under lights in the winter?

@California_Carnivores

2 жыл бұрын

You can! It would be best to bring it inside to an unheated room or garage that gets light. If not you can grow it under lights but it needs to be exposed to cold so it’s best to grow it under lights set to the natural photo periods, in your garage

@kidsthesedays9

2 жыл бұрын

@@California_Carnivores awesome. Thank you.

Kate, with those glasses and that haircut, you look a lot like Kristen Schaal!

@joew717

3 жыл бұрын

yes!! I was like ooh! Kristen Schaal!

Does it have to not have drainage holes?

@California_Carnivores

2 жыл бұрын

This bog does not. We do have a video about draining bogs as well 😊

What brand of Pumice do you recommend?

@California_Carnivores

Жыл бұрын

We use Vigaro

Wah! I made a really beautiful pond/bog container planting a few years ago. It was wonderful! Then the raccoons and bears discovered it. No more pond.

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Nooooo!!!! Raccoons can be so destructive!

What do you if you overwater it, and fill up the false bottom to much

@California_Carnivores

11 ай бұрын

In the summer, it’s okay if your plants are flooded and they’ll use the water over a few days. In the winter you can either gently tip out the water or drill holes along the soil surface to let that water run out if it overflows the plants

So I need to make sure that the pot doesn’t have any drainage holes, right?

@California_Carnivores

2 жыл бұрын

We like to drill holes right at the surface of the soil so that the rain runs out of the top. If you watch the very end of the video, Kate shows placement of these 😊

@omg28374

2 жыл бұрын

@@California_Carnivores I just watched it. That’s a great idea. Thank you so much.

can't you use pvc piping around the bottom so you can just pour water through a funnel and then drill holes in the pvc to let the water drain into the bottom

@California_Carnivores

Жыл бұрын

You could! We have used agriculture piping before as well, we just like the simplicity of the rocks and it’s really easy for most people to do.

Are distilled and filtered the same thing??

@California_Carnivores

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes they aren’t, it can depend a lot on the manufacturer and a lot of filtered water has minerals and salts added back in. As well as filtered water being often only filtered for a small amount of things whereas distilled water or reverse osmosis water is very pure

will coco coir work in place of peat moss?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Coco coir can have a high level of TDS (total dissolved solids) so it would be best to avoid in bogs like this

How often do you water it, or how do you even know when to water it…so as to not water log your plants?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Non draining bogs are trickier to water because you can’t just refill the saucer. In the summer I’d water every day.

Why not just use a bottom-draining pot? Does it not keep up the moisture level necessary if all extra water just flows through the soil and out of the drainage hole?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

We have another bog making video with a pot with drainage holes 😊 it can be easier, especially if you are new to carnivorous plants. Non-draining containers are quite popular though and this was a much requested video!

Are there any alternatives to peat? Could coco coir function the same?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Coco coir can have a very high TDS so I would not use that. We don’t currently have a great alternative to peat moss other than long fibered sphagnum moss.

@mellfraze8112

3 жыл бұрын

Okay, thanks.

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How common is coco fiber in outdoor bog gardens because of peat being unsustainable

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Coco fiber can be really high in minerals and salts so we rarely use it. Unfortunately even after soaking it, it often is still quite heavy in these and in a closed system like this bog the minerals and salts from the coco fiber will build up a lot

Snap snap tentacles. LOL If you know that video from Sigmund Hartmeyer. Runway lights and snap tentacles

I would love your videos have spanish subtitles 😭

How do you turn the subtitles off? Its hard to focus with the words at the bottom.

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

We subtitle our videos outside of KZread due to all the Latin plant names so they cannot be turned off within the video.

So there's no overflow hole on side ? What about rain 🌧️

@California_Carnivores

2 жыл бұрын

We drill little overflow holes on the side at the end of the video, right above the soil line. Although, on my bogs at home I actually prefer no drainage holes.

Can you use Coir instead of peat?

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

Coir can unfortunately have a high TDS so I would avoid using it.

@arelucio

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a pro, but am looking to avoidpeat for environmental reasons. Another video had a thread that talked about coco coir from a brand called Canna that is rinsed already! Other people said they just soak the coir overnight and rinse it well the next day. Either way, what I learned was to use a TDS meter and it should be less than 50-80 ppm. Like I said, I'm not a pro, but this is what I've gathered from people who have experience with coir.

For a minute I thought Kristen schaal was running the clinic.

I live in central Michigan, I wish I could do this but I worry the winters would kill the plants :/

@California_Carnivores

3 жыл бұрын

You can grow them outdoors until your temps drop below 20F for sustained periods. Then you can bring them inside, in small pots, or mulch them in heavily on top and sides with at least 4” of mulch.

@selfgaming1456

3 жыл бұрын

@@California_Carnivores oh cool! Thanks! I’m considering getting Venus flytraps and a sundew plant!

@darrenpeetes1084

3 жыл бұрын

@@selfgaming1456 you can get a grow light too if you wanna keep them indoors but I think some carnivorous plants have to be outside