How to brake effectively on dirt bikes︱Cross Training Enduro
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crosstrainingenduro.com tractionerag.com Learn how to brake on dirt bikes! All about brakes and braking on dirt bikes and enduro bikes, including tips gleaned from Tim Coleman, Graham Jarvis, Chris Birch and other top enduro riders for cross training - a blend of trials and enduro techniques. We show you how to ride dirt bikes using enduro techniques and dirt bike skills. After almost four years of training vids we finally get around to a video about braking. Enduro training tips are based on techniques from Tim Coleman, Chris Birch, Graham Jarvis and other hard enduro riders. So... Learn how to brake on dirt bikes. Get into it and learn how to ride enduro bikes - our vids range from basics for the beginner dirt rider to advanced hard enduro racing for experienced riders. Good braking technique goes a long way to improving your riding. Too many guys are good at the throttle but hopeless under brakes. Learn how to brake on enduro bikes? We will lock wheels up or not brake enough. We brake too early or too late. Cross training is the application of trials-based skills to dirt riding, and it's got solid backing from the world's top riders. Graham Jarvis says "Going fast is the easy bit. It’s going slowly that will help you develop control over your brakes. Often we have the incorrect mix of front and rear brake. You want to learn how to ride dirt bikes with our free enduro training videos? Our Cross Training Enduro is a mix of trials and dirt riding skills and techniques for when learning how to brake on a dirt bike. This dirt bike channel also had lots of wheelies, reviews, philosophy, and dirt bike fails videos. Initially, cross training enduro skills slow you right down (even to a stand still!) so that you can relearn key dirt riding skills then gradually build up your speed again. Your best braking is when the wheels are just short of locking up. Find a smooth consistent surface and practice braking hard enough to just start locking the front wheel up - just like ABS braking. In most cases about three quarters of our braking should be done by the front brake- even less if you are doing stoppies. Most of us favour the rear brake too much because it's way less scary locking up the rear wheel than the front wheel when learning how to brake on an enduro bike. Losing traction is a cardinal sin in trials riding, and riders go to extreme lengths to ensure their tires don't slip. Wheel spin and slides look great but in most cases mean you losing control of the bike to some extent. The top extreme enduro riders will only lose traction deliberately for certain techniques, such as locking up the rear brake to line themselves up into a tight turn. Maintaining traction is a critical skill in cross training. The growth of extreme enduro, endurocross and hard enduro events leads to cross training enduro - trials skills changed to dirt riding on enduro bikes. Almost all the best extreme riders are previously trials champions. Balance in your dirt bike riding also means you can spend more time standing on the footpegs in tough terrain instead of sitting - so you will have far more control when learning how to brake on a dirt bike. Your front brake works best in a straight line with the bike upright. In most cases you should avoid braking into a corner as the front wheel could wash out. A key part of moves like this is the use of body positioning and 'weighting' - choosing when to exert pressure on the pegs and when to 'de-weight' or lift the bike up. Everything in tough gnarly terrain is trying to throw you off balance, so balancing lays a strong foundation for enduro skills for guys like Jonny Walker and Ruben Chadwick. Don't overdo the rear brake. Most of us lock the rear wheel up way too much. Yes it can be useful, but most of the time it's sloppy riding that might feel good but just slows you down. Braking in cross training has a strong focus on being able to balance on your enduro bike, even at a stand still - this is a handy skill when you have minimal run up to your next obstacle. Become a subscriber to this dirt bike channel, Cross Training Enduro, for extreme enduro training tips vids with techniques from Graham Jarvis and Tim Coleman on traction, wheelies, pivot turns, clutch control, and other critical skills for learning how to ride a dirt bike videos for beginners or enduro racers. Leaving the clutch out means making the most of engine braking. Cross training applies the same principles to enduro bike - you'll be amazed at the difference it makes in terms of brakes, traction and advanced techniques such as jumping up vertical rock faces or massive logs. It can pay to lock the rear wheel up on slow steep sandy or gravel descents, the rear wheel digs in and can slow you down.
#crosstrainingenduro #enduro #tractionerag #howtoride #howtoridedirtbikes #braking
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I'm watching your videos AND are THE top rider in my house.
I love these teaching videos! Vladimir P. told me about them. I temporarily memorize 5-10% of the excellent content, then rush out to teach my 14-year old, pretending it came from years of hard-won expertise through petsonal experience. Thanks!
@crosstrainingenduro
5 жыл бұрын
excellent! he'll treat you like a god until he finds out lol. seriously, it's great you have something to share with your son, it can be hard for some parents to find any common ground with their kids through the teenage years.
damn, so after 4 years you're telling me we have also brakes on our dirt bikes??? I wasted tones of boots soles....
I have good control on the rear brake until I decide to stand up, then its either brake on or brake off.
@Z9Z291
3 жыл бұрын
You and me both
I find most ppl are too afraid to be anywhere near the front brake on corner entry when in actual fact trailing into the first third of the corner with 5 to 20% brake or so helps the bike turn in so much better as the front end is loader up, forks are compressed, rake angle decreases and wheel base is decreased which gives a real confidence inspiring sharp turn in... takes practice of course if u aren't use to it. Love the vids mate.
@crosstrainingenduro
4 жыл бұрын
i was wondering about including that but figured it might be better in an advanced vid about braking. 😊
@Senninha1960
4 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro yes true that 👍
I've got the same sort of "encouraged to use 1 finger" front brake lever on my bike, it's a free mod, called "gravity" and finished off with a "grinder".
@livelikeidaho8171
3 жыл бұрын
My wife gave me that upgrade when she rode my bike a few weeks ago...
Good video. In MSF (motorcycle safety course) for street license in the US. They teach slow, head turn, press, lean and roll. Slow before entering the corner. Turn your head to look through the corner. Press on the bar to initiate the lean. Lean and slowly roll on the throttle as you exit the corner. Applies nicely to dirt as well as you mentioned. They also teach what your talking about what your talking about with braking to use both front and rear brakes so slow quicker. Also applies to dirt.
I run a Rekluse and a Clake on my Husky 450. It's a dream to ride. I am 58 and have bad knees so everything helps.
I love your vids. Informative, funny and entertaining!
The best channel for enduro/trials!!!Greetings from Greece!!!
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
cheers dimitris!
Thank you so much!! I'm always learning !! This a very helpful video ! Loved it !! Thanks for taking the time !! Awesome !! Cheers mate
At the top of steep downhills, I like to quickly jab the front brake (untill it briefly locks) to gauge the grip level I'll likely have for that run down the hill. Don't be afraid of the front brake peoples 🙂
@jz3712
2 ай бұрын
I have literally never used my front brake. I only started riding a year ago though.
Barry, yet another fantastic video! Your presentation skills have become master level.If you could combine dangerous animals into all of this, you could probably make millions.
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
cheers dagster. i think i've already go the dangerous animals covered, some of my riding buddies get pretty aggressive if they haven't had a beer before the ride. :(
Once again- great vid with good info.
Great vid, Barry, great advice for all levels! Now, just practice, practice, practice....
I started doing hare scrambles a few months ago on a yz125 with no front brakes. Seeing you guys stop this fast makes me think i should get a new master cylinder lol
another great teaching video. Thanks for sharing.
Great vid. Large aircraft max brake with antiskid (depending on conditions) to max perform the brakes. That's exactly what you simulate by braking at the limit of skidding on a dirtbike, max performing the brakes!
These vids are always great.
Great vid. Can't wait to get out for some practice time!!
Missed the podium. Great video as usual. Thanks Barry.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you. This channel is changing my life for the better.
@crosstrainingenduro
4 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that, Daniel!
Great ideas Barry, thanks
Love your vids buddy!!
Awesome set of tips mate!
Great vids as usual!!
Good vid. Thanks Barry. 👍
Trail braking can be useful on certain types of corners. Used it a lot on road racing bikes. A little bit so far on dirt bikes.
Guilty of using too much back brake, glad I found your vid.
Well done...again.
95% street rider (but love this videos) and almost solely use front brakes.
@bobthebuilder2922
6 жыл бұрын
Street is alot more different than dirt riding
@drumsnbass
6 жыл бұрын
Klaani K - really? 🤣
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
i thought it was the same technique... mind you it might explain why i keep banging up my kneecap hanging off the bike and dragging my inside knee along the dirt. :(
@bobthebuilder2922
6 жыл бұрын
Well duh, of cource it is a different thing😂 But what i was trying to say is that there are alot of people who think everything related to motorcycles etc. is the same and when he/she said that he/she uses 95% front brake i thought that he/she is that kind of person.... that's why i said the obvious thing "dirt riding different compared to street riding"😅👍🏼
@TheMaster5150
6 жыл бұрын
drumsnbass 95% of new street riders use mostly the back brakes. Same goes with dirt riders...hints the video!
I really enjoy these skill specific videos Barry. The basics are so complex! These type of videos in your series keep me motivated to improve. Thank you. Headed over to become a supporter after mooching for about 10 months.
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
great to hear josh, same here. i thought i knew the basics but learned a fair bit from jesse doing this vid.
Watching this after I wiped out on mossy limestone rocks in 4th gear. going too fast for my skill level. Dodged ER though 💪
Thanks man.
excellent
Thanks for the video. I'm pretty good at breaking but my problem is on the first lap I always miss judge track conditions and wash out the front end.
hahaha grasshopper moment was awesome! :D
Good vid
The rear brake is one thing I have to work on. Mostly because I cant feel the damn thing through my boots.
@ctonefar
6 жыл бұрын
I found swapping from the 'standard' wave rotor to a solid pattern 'mud' disc helped immensely. You're not short on stopping power in your foot, but the extra pressure needed to lock up on the solid rotor compared to the wave gave far more feel.
@finntasticfive7113
5 жыл бұрын
I find that if i move the brake lever up passed peg helps me feel the break and not smash on it when applying it.
@1TruePatriot
4 жыл бұрын
@@ctonefar Since the sides of the rotor are the friction surfaces--the ONLY ones--why would the outer contour of "the wave rotor" have ANY effect on braking output, for a given amount of brake pedal pressure?
@ctonefar
4 жыл бұрын
@@1TruePatriot It's not so much the outer contour, rather the lack of cross-drilled holes/slots in mud discs. Picture the full area of a brake pad being say 8 square centimeters; now two brake discs - one is just round, no wave and no holes; the other is a wave disc with plenty of holes (say a full 30% of the metal removed verses the solid disc, with the outer edge of the 'wave' matching up with the outer area of the pad). If you can put 20kg of 'force' onto your rear brake lever, then thats 20kg of force into the disc from the pads (I'm pulling numbers out of thin air here, but you get the idea). now, with 30% of the metal missing under the footprint of the brake pad on the wave disc compared to the solid (each of the holes is a 'void' that the pad cant press against), then there is more pressure and more 'grip' for the pads to bite with (you've got 20kg pushing against an area of 5.5cm instead of 8cm. Think force vs area; why a hammer will leave a little dint in a piece of wood, but will drive a nail right through it). On a road bike, this is great, more stopping power! But on the rear brake of an offroad bike, it's far too easy to apply too much pressure and lock it up, especially on loose downhills. But fit a solid/mud disc, and you have to apply far more pressure to lock up the rear, which gives you a more progressive feel to learn rear brake control. Hope this clears it up! :)
Austrian bike with 88 on it, Jesse I like your style
Again, another amazing video good job! any ideas when the Chinese dirt bike will be reviewed?
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
not sure if it would ever happen. i gave up chasing manufacturers for bikes to review a long time ago, most never respond. only SWM and gas gas did.... eventually.
@tomhudson1757
6 жыл бұрын
I guess keep perpetuating content, manufactures will inevitably recognize you and your content, let's hope manufactures will be chasing you haha...
About time...its been all go go go, up up up, down down down, go left, swing right, punch that log, overtake that Gas Gas rider holding up everyone on the single....finally we get to learn how to come to a halt and enjoy the serenity....and the smell of 2 stroke 😋
Regarding 5:30 - I at this point (after having watched at least 2 docent Videos of yours) would undauntedly consider myself a TOP rider XD
勉強になった👍
@crosstrainingenduro
2 жыл бұрын
ありがとう！ 私たちのビデオで日本語の翻訳を使用していますか？ それらは正確ですか？ Googleからの自動翻訳です。
@user-ns8lm4gr6q
2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro 返信ありがとう。翻訳は正確ではないけど 意味は理解出来るよ😁
@crosstrainingenduro
2 жыл бұрын
それは良い知らせだ！
Nice
I went on a few rides with my rear master cylinder not working Ever since I hardly use my rear brake anymore. Only time I use my rear brake as when I want to slide . Also this is on a quad not a bike
Good luck in contacting them. Terrible customer service! I’ve called, emailed and left texts asking about possible hydraulic rear brake for my Nissin brakes….they may have the cable set up and not sure if they will fit but the hydro system looks more promising. Absolutely no response or replies. They’re in Utah. May have drive up and drop in next time in SLC.
@crosstrainingenduro
2 жыл бұрын
Who is this, Kelly?
@kellybrown788
2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro This is Ox Brake. I believe they are out of Salt Lake City, UT.
@crosstrainingenduro
2 жыл бұрын
Gotcha. Years back I rode a bike with the Ox-brake but you really had to haul on that lever to get any braking. My fingers are getting too old for that kind of workout lol. I rode a bike with the Clake SLR which was brilliant. Very easy to lock up the rear wheel if needed, plenty of feel and control.
Been reading discussion groups and all this time I thought it was... breaks. 😂
5:38 i feel attacked
I need to find a rear hand brake set up for my quad, not being able to use the standard foot pedal at all and having the clutch lever also as a rear/ parking brake lever isn’t ideal In some situations if you need both at same time
6:38 Buen circuito
riding on wet mossy rocks allso improves you braiking skills 😀
is their anyway to install abs on a 2013 690 enduro? mine came out a year before factory installed abs
My rego CRF450X brakes are shit as compared to my brothers rego ktm 250 2 banger. Those things lock up well good when needed.
“you are less likely to... piss your pants” 😂
My old honda engine brakes like crazy, so much braking in first or second it almost throws me forward when I let off the throttle if I dont havethe clutch in
@kingkracker1998
3 жыл бұрын
lol that's how my yfz450r is. sometimes I ha e too look down thinking I'm draging my rear brake! lol. but I'm also still braking in and getting used to riding with boots.
Love the vids! Question: fairly new off road rider. Here. Have a stock wr250r. Def no mechanic! clutch and to lesser extent front brake are way too stiff for this one finger method. Suggestions? Thanks! 🖕🏼😇
@crosstrainingenduro
5 жыл бұрын
already done a very extensive vid on making clutches lighter...
@thecityoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro oh! sorry, should've looked more first. i'll track er down. thanks so much. you guys rule!!!
Do you hold the clutch in when downshifting? For example, if you needed to come to a quick stop you would get off the gas--> clutch in--> downshift --> front and rear break
@crosstrainingenduro
2 жыл бұрын
That would vary a lot in all sorts of situations...
You should trial the device from brakebutt. I’m sure he’d probably give you one to trial even.
@crosstrainingenduro
3 жыл бұрын
🤣
👍👍👍👍👍
5:20 - What's with that glitch in the Matrix?
How do you keep on the balls of your feet yet cover the rear brake
@crosstrainingenduro
2 жыл бұрын
Covered this in our foot positioning training vid
Front brakes are only good for flying. To make the most of breaking just mash the back brake and drop the bike.
Well done! I have the sudden urge to order chinese food, tho.
Just saw thumbnail me old skipper LMFAO- the "coward pedal"!!
Learning while laughing.. my teachers just never got that in high school..
@crosstrainingenduro
5 жыл бұрын
a shame kyle. it can make such a difference, i remember a uni lecturer in the dreaded snozzy 1pm to 2pm lecture slot who would crack jokes when everyone started napping. best lectures ever....
How do you adjust your rear brake so it is level with the foot peg?
@crosstrainingenduro
2 жыл бұрын
It's just two spanners and adjust the bolts, James. There's probably a vid on KZread about it somewhere...
@jamesmackereth5165
2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro Thanks mate, mine his heaps lower than my foot pegs so I’ve had some trouble braking while standing up
Isn't engine-braking quite bad to do on two-strokes? Btw. good video!
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
apparently only for extended periods on long downhills as they run very lean in that case. i'm no mechanic though, this is just what i've heard....
@elituko
6 жыл бұрын
Of course no has ever engine braked a 2 stroke street or road race bike, or a flat track bike. Not to mention all the 2 stroke diesel truck engines thru the decades. This horse shit of, don't engine brake a 2 stroke is horse shit. The cylinder is still getting some fuel in it at idle speed. If it seizes up you weren't running enough oil in your fuel to start with.
@jonaselliotbro4694
6 жыл бұрын
Okay thanks, elitoku and Cross Training, I guess that would make sense :)
So if you are in the correct standing position, when you shit yourself you should shoot it over the rear guard. Wish I knew that weeks ago haha
@crosstrainingenduro
3 жыл бұрын
I have to remember that for when we update the training vids 🤣
Did I miss the Colton Haaker interview video?
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
nah we had fairly poor audio quality for the interview but also colton was way too serious and frankly it wouldn't have been an interesting interview. :(
@michaelmckay
6 жыл бұрын
Ah bummer to hear that on both accounts, oh well. Thank you! He funny/entertaining on his vlog, but I guess that isn't usually filming on race day.
50% offroad rider here, but on a big boy bike ;). Does everything in this video translate a 100% to an ADV bike with a drum on the rear? I do have some proper road legal knobbies on the bike.
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
ik weet het niet (i'm assuming you are a dutchman lol). much of it would apply but i'm not sure how much. :(
@BigBeardBuilds
6 жыл бұрын
Can you borrow one somewhere and do a video on it? :P
"You are less likely to piss your pants." So matter of fact.
What happened after the 3 minute mark !
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
black screen :)
So there’s only 60% brake then
@gamboi1257
4 жыл бұрын
Wait theirs brakes?
Brakes? We don't need no stinking brakes.
@ryanwhalen4542
5 жыл бұрын
Technically since there are 2 negatives that means a positive so that means you need brakes
I'm an American... So I can only go in a straight line. please help!
@xterrential
6 жыл бұрын
Get a euro bike. Preferably a Beta then corners especially rights will be a breeze.
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
weird... i thought american bikes like harleys leaned more toward the right while most european brands were a bit more left leaning?
So did he say he engine brakes on a 2 stroke ?
@e.e9331
4 жыл бұрын
I've never rode dirtbikes and no idea about 2-stroke quirks, what's wrong with his logic?
@luisdiegocr
4 жыл бұрын
@@e.e9331 basically 2 stroke engines do not have valves, 4 strokes does. This produces a gas flow restriction in 4 strokes engines which is strong enough to slow down the vehicle substencially. 2 stroke will only slow you down due to friction of the different components, but this force is very very weak en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_braking
5:32 truth hurts.
4:56, I’m pretty confused. Surely you can’t let the clutch be engaged the entirety of the time without allowing a little bit of slippage, right? Aren’t you just gonna stall the engine like that? Like I’m sure you need some clutch modulation, no? I’m very new to all this sort of thing
@crosstrainingenduro
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely pull the clutch in if going slow to avoid stalling.
@hectichive889
2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro Ah okay, gotcha lol. I figured that’s what y’all meant, was just confused by the wording. Great video though nonetheless! Y’all are very helpful
HAAAAA!!!!!…u r not a top rider….u would not be watching these vids…..NAILED IT!
Crap.... don’t have front brakes....
I personally use alot front brake. It's imo way more useful because you can use it woth your fingers
The Subspenion is a little soft:/
Call me dumb, but whats that chattering the back break does when you push it down hard?
@backwoodsriders1879
6 жыл бұрын
Graham Vandermark Probably chain slap as the rear bounces.
@crosstrainingenduro
6 жыл бұрын
yup.
Now let's see how you do in traffic lol
@bobthebuilder2922
6 жыл бұрын
Ummmm... pretty well
@kamenrider8926
6 жыл бұрын
Klaani K Days of Thunder!
Why buy a one fingerd break when you have a hack saw
wait, you guys use brakes??
@crosstrainingenduro
4 жыл бұрын
only when riding up steep hill climbs
Dopp
I have several hospital bills as proof that you can go faster than you can stop.
@crosstrainingenduro
2 жыл бұрын
Argh, same here!
Traduscan al español pls:(
@crosstrainingenduro
4 жыл бұрын
pero no hablo español
@marcosmolina2731
4 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro ok 😢 thanks
in my case..I forget to brake..and oops..off I come
You are telling me to LOCK MY FRONT WHEEL WHEN BRAKING?????? No way !!!!!!!!!
@jonellwanger7258
5 жыл бұрын
Alexander Rivas briefly, on loose surfaces.. o_0 did you not listen?
i am a top rider, and i'm watching this video..so what? lol
Professional discourager 🤣🤣
I disagree my engine does 70% 😜 🤪
COWARD PEDAL! thats just what i say cause my drum breaks are usless......just ask the dog i hit :(
@RockabillyRambler
6 жыл бұрын
Spiritpoweredinternet i did buy the bike because of them ;)
@TopRevs
6 жыл бұрын
what bike is it
@RockabillyRambler
6 жыл бұрын
Einar 1 honda cm250, i have it on video...
@dustinshort6207
6 жыл бұрын
Rockabilly Rambler is that you jake?
That whole sensei thing is highly offensive.....:)
@woodsrider117
6 жыл бұрын
Good vid! Thanks for posting!
Dude said 30%, 25%, and 5%. Where’s the rest 40% bro.
@crosstrainingenduro
5 ай бұрын
??? When did he say 30%?
In Polish language "pedal" means also a gay
BUBBLES )