HOW TO BEAT ELDAR AS SPACE MARINES | An in-depth matchup guide | Dawn of War: Soulstorm

This is a long video that goes in depth with the matchup Space Marines versus Eldar. The video is a guide that tackles the many different scenarios Space Marines face in a 1v1 setting versus Eldar.
Statements, tips and buildorders in this video consists of many replays and heavy reaserch from high mmr players (both on SM and Eldars side). It is also quality checked through conversations with other high mmr players.
Time codes
0:00 - Intro
5:23 - Notes about Eldar
14:18 - Map by Map
14:47 - Fata Morga
17:47 - Blood River
21:19 - Meeting for minds
23:11 - Battle Marshes
26:14 - Tranquilitys End
28:38 - Titans Fall
29:43 - Outer Reaches
31:49 - Quests Triumph
32:38 - Fallen City
33:58 - Shrine of Excellion
37:43 - ASM Intro+Me complaining
40:45 - ASM buildorder
48:49 - ASM teching buildorder
1:01:20 - ASM Tier 1.5 Push
1:11:15 - 4 Scout Buildorder
1:15:32 - 4 Scout Game
1:26:30 - Disclaimers about the last two builds
1:28:53 - Sniper Mass buildorder
1:32:11 - Sniper Mass Game
1:44:00 - Eco boom intro
1:46:57 - Eco-boom
1:49:12 - Eco-boom Game
2:03:37 - Tier 2
2:10:07 - Final Thoughts
---Important links
Astroheros channel: / @astrohero
Astroheros 2nd channel: / @wh40kveteran
AlixUKs channel: / @alixuk2567
Video 1: • Space Marines v Eldar ... (ASM tier 1.5 push)
Video 2: • Dawn of War - Soulstor... (ASM teching and Sniper Mass)
Video 3: • Space Marines v Eldar ... (4-scout buildorder and Eco-boom)

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  • @Duzzyminister
    @Duzzyminister3 ай бұрын

    Time stamps 0:00 - Intro 5:23 - Notes about Eldar 14:18 - Map by Map 14:47 - Fata Morga 17:47 - Blood River 21:19 - Meeting for minds 23:11 - Battle Marshes 26:14 - Tranquilitys End 28:38 - Titans Fall 29:43 - Outer Reaches 31:49 - Quests Triumph 32:38 - Fallen City 33:58 - Shrine of Excellion 37:43 - ASM Intro+Me complaining 40:45 - ASM buildorder 48:49 - ASM teching buildorder 1:01:20 - ASM Tier 1.5 Push 1:11:15 - 4 Scout Buildorder 1:15:32 - 4 Scout Game 1:26:30 - Disclaimers about the last two builds 1:28:53 - Sniper Mass buildorder 1:32:11 - Sniper Mass Game 1:44:00 - Eco boom intro 1:46:57 - Eco-boom 1:49:12 - Eco-boom Game 2:03:37 - Tier 2 2:10:07 - Final Thoughts

  • @luckylarry71
    @luckylarry713 ай бұрын

    Great stuff, man. Astro is hands down the most knowledgeable caster in all of DoW,1's expansions, and AlixUK is also a very skilled and fun to watch as well. Really cool that you acknowledged them both here 🙂 A couple of things to add and/or elaborate on what you've shown from my experience when I used to play in this MU: Eldar (and T'au) big weakness is that T2 is a standalone building that requires physical construction, i.e. workers which you can target to stop/delay construction. > Eldar will almost always start T2 under the protection of an LP2 (or preferably two, depending on the map), sometimes minefields, or keep a spare squad to protect the Bonesingers. > It's important to scout it to know the timing, but rather than committing heavily into killing the workers, it's better to strike at other targets of opportunity, e.g. isolated gens which will most likely be far more exposed, and force Eldar to spread their defenders. > Dropping a turret next to a contested SP, Relic, etc. and starting (but not necessarily finishing construction) works best if your Scouts are simultaneously capping on the opposite (of far side) of the map, to further force the Eldar into spreading thin, or force them to commit to either side, so you decide whether to finish turret and establish a good anchor, or gain advantage by capping the map of the other side. All this time though, your ASM must actively pursue their targets of opportunity (e.g. Bonesingers, gens, or isolated Dark Reapers). Basically, *you dictate the terms* not the Eldar player. > On Battle Marshes, the ASM were played for decades and some folks experimented with eco-boom since it _can_ be a surprisingly good map to defend and give plenty of strategic opportunities if you can survive the early/mid game. As far as I can tell, most Eldar are majorly thrown out of their comfort zone if they can't stop you from executing this build, and denying the Eldar their favorite thing, i.e. dictating their own terms, is basically how you beat them. Peace ✌

  • @Duzzyminister

    @Duzzyminister

    3 ай бұрын

    Hey mate Thank you for your nice comment. I agree with 98% of all that you're writing, and it's good that people add stuff so, cause it helps people a alot. so THANK YOU! To your first two points: It's true that it might be the most ideal for Eldar to build under protections, however... you'd be suprised how even 2000+ mmr eldar player don't do it as often as you would expect, and the times they do it's only an LP2, that is on the more weaker side of LP2's. vs ASM.(depending on how you look at the numbers). If you have bionics you can sustain a bunch of firepower. But I agree, the worst you can do is suicide your ASM for 2-3 bonsingers, it's not worth. To your third point I agree and it is also what I am saying in the video, I just don't elaborate it too much, so thanks for that! To your fourth and last point Thanks for that inside, that makes sense to me, I am happy I double checked tho 😅

  • @williamcooper8599

    @williamcooper8599

    Күн бұрын

    I miss Astro

  • @tripl9
    @tripl926 күн бұрын

    good video! im just getting into this game and want to get as good as possible, used to play in like 2008 campaign only & im on holiday so just watching videos till july 20th

  • @solarwind_
    @solarwind_3 ай бұрын

    Eldar vs SM really hard matchup. SM could win if only skill of SM much better or better teching

  • @Duzzyminister

    @Duzzyminister

    3 ай бұрын

    Hey Solar! 😀 It's true the matchup is hard, but even some of the best eldar players lose to space marines if SM knows what to do. 🙂

  • @user-dz1wv1hy1c
    @user-dz1wv1hy1c2 ай бұрын

    Wow! Great job! Have you seen the latest games Zorg for sm on the tournament vs eldar.

  • @Duzzyminister

    @Duzzyminister

    2 ай бұрын

    Hey freind Thanks for the praise. No I haven't, what tournament are we talking ? Zorg is a really good player. 🙂

  • @user-dz1wv1hy1c

    @user-dz1wv1hy1c

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, Zqrg. He’s top eldar. But now plays for sm.

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    @user-dz1wv1hy1c

    2 ай бұрын

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    @user-dz1wv1hy1c

    2 ай бұрын

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    2 ай бұрын

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  • @plasmapanasonic4741
    @plasmapanasonic47413 ай бұрын

    Damn, I'm an eldar player (although I'm retarded), I haven't watched the video. But looks very comprehensive. Awesome work. Also enjoyed your cast with Jagus.

  • @Duzzyminister

    @Duzzyminister

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks! It took a long time to research, edit and record. It's not easy to digest, but the goal was to cover all aspects of the MU, so I Hope you'll enjoy it once you've watched it. I am pretty sure you as an Eldar main will learn a lot too. And thank you for the praise on the co-cast, I am happy people liked it 😊