00:00 - Intro 05:14 - Chaos 15:04 - Dark Eldar 23:12 - Eldar 29:53 - Imperial Guard - 37:10 - Necrons 46:17 - Orks 53:41 - Sisters of Battle 59:13 - Tau 01:04:37 - Space Marines 01:14:46 - Outtro

I've got to give you MAJOR props for uploading this. Been playing RTS games for well over a decade and a half myself and most games of this scale are supposed to have or at least generally have tier lists. Warhammer is a massive franchise and to my knowledge while the games do not have a particularly big community it IS large enough and this game in particular has tons of mods from what I've heard. Still in the process of clearing all the expansions Campaigns before I can truly delve into it all. Anyways what I'm trying to say here is that I'm amazed a RTS like this has VERY few tier lists. It's not like the factions are that evenly balanced and that especially applies in earlier versions/expansions. Everyone here has presumably played the earlier ones but words cannot describe how much worse the Orcs are in the first version of the game compared to the later ones.

never thought id ever seen a tier list about my favorite RTS of all time! Thanks dude!

@Duzzyminister

2 ай бұрын

Thanks brother, glad you liked it. :-)

Nice video Duzzy! I appreciate and agree with this list, even if my beloved Sisters are in D Tier :')

@Duzzyminister

2 ай бұрын

Thanks Jagus! I learned from the best! But yeah I wanted to spare you the truth, but I know you can take it 😉

Something crucial to consider about the matchup grid you are using, is that it isn't filtered by MMR/skill level. Those stats are inflated by thousands of noob games, or noob stomps by experienced players. This is especially prevalent when you consider SM and IG, which are by far the most popular factions of newcomers casually trying out the game. A more useful grid to go on, would be looking at the 'High rating' filter

@Duzzyminister

2 ай бұрын

Hey Kez, thanks for watching! I do agree that the stats have issues, which I mention serveral times in the video. I did look at the high rating one before recording, but sometimes the sample sizes are so small over several years, that those stats can also be missleading aswell. Also those stats does include outlier players, which I mention why I try to avoid. The stats where also there to supplement my own knowledge, but im sure there are holes in that knowledge from time to time, and so the stats did potentially get overused those moments. Thanks for the feedback brother!

nice video duzzy can you go for unit tierlist next?

@Duzzyminister

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it brother. I am as of now doing a map-tierlist ft. Jagus. So it's not in the near feature, but it for sure something to do for later, I would be down! 🙂

Oh, hi! We got caught many times on the ladder! Great video, like it

@Duzzyminister

4 күн бұрын

Thanks mate! What's your ign?

@Skuf18

4 күн бұрын

@@Duzzyminister Sikorsky

@Skuf18

4 күн бұрын

@@Duzzyminister I agree completely with your tier list. Maybe I put the Necrons higher, but as the statistics showed: Dark Eldar - Necron is a matchup in favor of the Necrons, which is probably why I have problems with them.

@Duzzyminister

3 күн бұрын

​@@Skuf18Oh yeah I remember you, you're the Hall of blood guy, always nice play with you 😊

I totally agree that Eldar are S tier. However Necrons are definitely A tier. Lol have you never had an entire Necron army teleport into your base with multiple Monoliths and the Deceiver? Oh and you can't stop it because the Lord can teleport at a silly point in your base?

@Duzzyminister

2 ай бұрын

Hey mate, thanks going in and put your takes out there, feel free to disagree 😊 I would be inclined to disagree tho. I would without all external factors put Necrons on B-tier. Too many maps are unplayable and too many sus matchups. Even your late game scenario has never happend to me, only one monolith and deciever, and in those cases I blow them up with Landraiders, terminators and pure firepower. Multiple monoliths usually never happens unless they bug abuse or you're trolling and letting necrons just somehow build 2 or more tier 4 monoliths. 😅 Even if they got to tier 4, IG and SM (just to mention some) beats them strait up tier 4. The one disclaimer is, that I could imagine some crazy stuff like that happening on team maps, and there we might have a different conversation 👍

@kriltic9454

2 ай бұрын

You must not have played many good Necron players (when you could do it lol). The base teleport was the end game goal for Necrons. The Deceiver was there to attempt to mind control any defenders/waste their time. The rest of the army usually had enough time to ruin a base before enough defenders came. Plus the Resurrection Orb meant they had to be wiped out twice but also left a permanent threat in your base. The monolith thing, all you had to do was summon one outside of combat as it would take 90% damage after timing out then heal up. I used to use this playstyle to 1vs3 many times. Remember, basic Warriors were free so they coukd also easily rush.

@MALKAVIANsrle11

2 ай бұрын

Necrons feel like watching my grandma go upstairs

@kriltic9454

2 ай бұрын

@@MALKAVIANsrle11 obviously you never played vs a good Necron player 😂

Now about Dark Crusade 👍

@Duzzyminister

3 күн бұрын

I simply don't play DC, so I would not be the right one to make that tierlist 😅

Soulstheim is prob my favourite Dawn of war game

@Duzzyminister

2 ай бұрын

Agree, it's truely great!

Should do this again with reunification that mod is nuts wrapping your head around

@Duzzyminister

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I might have to refer to MR. Landshark who did one some time ago, he would be way more educated than me any of the mods in general. 🙂

@rickk9985

Ай бұрын

@@Duzzyminister are you interested in Redux mod? it's most similar to vanilla with better ui , new stuff and balance

@Duzzyminister

Ай бұрын

@@rickk9985 long term I might look at that one and swich to that 🙂

@jamesoldham9995

Ай бұрын

@@rickk9985 I've tried to get into Redux but it's been nightmare trying to install for some reason. Can't seem to get it to work.

Personally id put Necron higher

@mee091000

Ай бұрын

I was a bit skeptical since this Tier List is not bad and his reasoning makes sense. But after playing as the Necrons for awhile I honestly agree 100%. For how easily accessible they are. The Flayed Ones are busted. Not only are they great tanks but they can kill almost anything on their own. They have no moral so these things will always fight at 100%. You have one or two fully reinforced squads of them backed up by an assortment of other Necrons and you're not gonna lose most fights even if they outnumber you. The only fights you will lose is if they have a lot of abilties prepped. But since you can spawn them in anywhere on the map it's easy to replace them. Necron teleportation is also nice in that regard. The Nightbringer is very powerful on its own thanks to that lifesteal but if you have it fight alongside an Awakened Monolith I genuinely don't think there is a single fight that you can lose. The Awakened Monolith on its own is like somewhere within Top 2 or 3 units in the game. But if it fights with a Necron Lord and an army. Everything it comes into contact with is getting obliterated. The Eldar are probably only winning that much against them because they stop the Necrons before they can reach that point. Even if you come across an army that can stalemate it for a bit. It will be overwhelmed because the Monolith can create units mid combat and the Necron can place turrets anywhere on the map. I think Necrons have way too much utility and versatility to be in C. I can easily see how they aren't S or even A. But they are definition of a B Tier faction if I've ever seen one.

@Duzzyminister

29 күн бұрын

​@@mee091000 Hey bro, thanks for your input. I could in theory nitpick your points, but it would be kinda unfair, since you're overall making some good points! I will admit that seeing this comment section, is making me second guess myself (that's only good tho). But since my criterias included the map-meta, it was hard for me to give them a high rating. There is simply too many maps that they suffer on (QT, SOE, MOM, OR etc.) And while Necrons might have a good time on TE, FM or maybe BR and look (sometimes) super broken, other times they legit look like a useless race, and all of that comes down to the map. Few freaky players like Bloody Monster will ofc ignore all of these cons, but as I explain in my video early, he is an outlier. I will say tho, that if I made the tierlist today, I would put Necrons on B-tier. I guess you learn somthing everyday 😊

I watched this on 1.75x speed because i feel you soeak a little slow for my taste (not a bad thing, you ennunciate well which is what enablws this anyways) but the background music is really annoying lol. That being said i dont like music on 1x speed either. Just thought id make this perspective known Really like the content would love to see more.

It's time to reconsider my noob choice of DE 😅

For me its not even that they're strong, I just genuinely hate how annoying the eldar are

@Duzzyminister

3 күн бұрын

Yeah, pretty annoying race 😅

_People play DoW Vanilla still?_ 🤔 Crucible Mod, Unification & Ultimate Apocalypse are giving so much more options & fun 🤗

@Duzzyminister

2 ай бұрын

Yeah the server is still active, and growing. But for sure a lot of respect to all the mods, and the creators beheind them! Personally I like vanilla more, due to it being super raw, but it's all about personal preference 😀👍

@zedoniusrulerofflame4675

Ай бұрын

I don't know man. I play both vanilla and Unification and I have to say that I don't appreciate a lot of the visuals in it. Like the Emperors Children and Renegade Guard are just cringe.

@thecalbinator7233

3 күн бұрын

@@zedoniusrulerofflame4675 or the farsight enclaves, like whats up with their goofy hats?

Wtf is this tier list lmao