If any other company used the same treatening measures that TVLicencing do, they would be procecuted for harassment.

@stubones

Жыл бұрын

Because they are protected by the communications act. Sadly.

@WhiteDieselShed

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Yet another issue that they get away with because they are the BBC or just linked to them in a minor way. Seen comments where they think you maybe more likely to get a warrant if removing their rights of access. A case of your using that because your guilty approach mostly without genuine evidence though.

@morteh48

Жыл бұрын

Can you imagine if some guy from netflix came to your house demanding entry because you didn't have a netflix subscription?

@waynesmith4612

Жыл бұрын

@@morteh48 How true, never thought of it like that. Shows just how corrupt they are.

@clivenorman2314

Жыл бұрын

@@stubones Errr, I think maybe you need to read the act as enforcement and harassment are very different things, and although the BBC haven't found themselves to my knowledge, prosecuted to date, it could easily be argued the methods they have been using could be harassment. I suspect the only reason they get away with it is the letters ordinarily are addressed to the occupier and not a specific person. That said an argument could still be made.

I used this a year after I cancelled my license. I had already had five officers being quite aggressive with me. As a single woman with vulnerabilities I was very distressed about this. A policeman friend told me about WOIRA and I used it on the next visit. They refused to leave, I called 101 and reported them. Two officers were prosecuted for aggravated trespass and I haven't been bothered since 2006.

@toshtosh9482

Жыл бұрын

I am now into my sixth year of no TV licence declarations and never had a visit.

@afropovic

11 ай бұрын

Nasty thugs. You probably would have legitimately been entitled to compensation for the way you were treated. Extracting money from these scum is the only real way to hurt them and make them caution acting in such a manner in future. They forget they are public servants, and that we pay them to protect and serve, not take advantage and bully.

@hittitecharioteer

11 ай бұрын

@@afropovic 💪🏻👍🏻

@Echo30Mike

11 ай бұрын

They are usually badged by the Security Industries association, ( the same organization that governs doorstaff and bailiffs ) so if they've been prosecuted, the SIA registration will of been revoked and they would no longer be able to be employed within those industries. ( because you need an in date SIA badge ).

@comfortsnail6342

11 ай бұрын

Funny that I'm 6foot6 and big they haven't tried it on with me despite ignoring their letters and been sent letters with red ink on ....ohhh scary.

I have been summoned to court twice for alleged TV licence evasion. I defended myself and spent many hours in the library studying the law surrounding the subject. I beat them both times. It wasn't hard because I was innocent. No apology, no compensation just the stress and anxiety caused from thugs trying to use the courts to gouge money out of me that they are not entitled to.

@billybonds4449

11 ай бұрын

Well done Sir!!

@neilthomas6750

10 ай бұрын

With what criteria were they using to get you to court in the first place? Thanks

@anderssorenson9998

10 ай бұрын

Gonna press X on that one.

@mb-3faze

10 ай бұрын

Or you could just get a licence which, in the grand scheme of things, a fantastic deal that makes BBC television the envy of the world. (Take that from an american who has to pay at least 5x the UK licence fee amount for cable TV which is mostly advert-filled junk.)

@wasspj

10 ай бұрын

@@mb-3faze The argument that you should just pay for a licence when you do not need one so that you can subsidise other people watching the BBC's shite is ridiculous.

This license fee racket needs to be repealed. The BBC is a disgrace.

I've informed them that I have no issue with officers visiting my property to carry out checks. I must inform you that I charge a £150 entry fee and a £150 interview. this money must be paid on the day of the visit and inspection.

@cassandrade-wolfe6926

Жыл бұрын

👍😃

@charlestlawson6806

Жыл бұрын

I will try that and see what happens ?Is that per person .

@rokosbasilisk2894

Жыл бұрын

Also insist that they take their shoes off to enter your property.

@Logicon1138

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the daily compounded interest, until paid in full

@nickcoppard5335

Жыл бұрын

​@@charlestlawson6806 per brain cell

I cancelled my TV licence many years ago - I got rid of the TV too and stopped watching it. The goons started with threatening letters “You ARE a criminal. You WILL be prosecuted”. Then they started with the visits. I worked away from home a lot - and they started turning up often quite late in the evening when my wife was in, alone. She got very fed up with this. One goon turned up late and demanded to search the house. She said we have no TV. (We hadn’t) he said if he searched the house and found no TV, he would record this fact and the visits would stop. She let him in and he searched the house. I was FURIOUS when I found out. Both with the goon and my wife for letting him in (there was no warrant). I read her the riot act. About two weeks later another goon visited, so the guy who searched the house was obviously a liar, he hadn’t done anything. I flipped, contacted a solicitor and threatened legal action for harassment. I haven’t had a visit since and that was about 15 years ago…

@Martyn_Wolf

17 күн бұрын

You shouted to 12 people including your wife about the riot act then lol

I've had awful problems with this in the past. The problem arose based on the fact that I don't own a TV, or watch any associated channels. While I own a laptop and watch Netflix, or KZread, from time to time, I prefer to read or listen to music. To protest the pending fine, I was forced to allow the intimidating TV licensing officers into my property as it was the only way of proving that I didn't have a TV. This is definitely a case of being guilty until proven innocent.

@stevewalker2028

7 ай бұрын

There was no pending fine, this was just a dishonest bullying tactic.

@ef7480

5 ай бұрын

Fines only happen if you lose in a court. No one can randomly 'fine' you without a court hearing (civil)

Great information. I cancelled my TV licence some 3 yrs ago as it was an absurd and unjust and extortionate £159 for generally a load of rubbish and mostly boring programmes. Best thing I ever did.

If they don't want people using their service without paying then it is their responsibility to put it behind a paywall or encrypt it as it's digital. What they are doing is extortion.

@therealryan1329

Жыл бұрын

How are they supposed to encrypt live television broadcast from any channel? This is not just a BBC issue.

@firestarter1888

Жыл бұрын

​@@therealryan1329 How do you think Sky manage to do it? Or Virgin? Or Netflix?

@stubones

Жыл бұрын

If the bbc had to rely on subscription they’d go under.

@Wanbon1

Жыл бұрын

@@therealryan1329 we do that in Canada, they just have to spend some money !!

@robburrows2737

Жыл бұрын

That's their problem. I agree with the argument. It's agent provocateur otherwise.

I do NOT want to stop them visiting. It is a wonderful waste of their time and money and it is rather enjoyable to send them on their way.

@leeradfordphotography2529

3 ай бұрын

I do the same, wasting time and resources is the best way to drain these bullies, and its fun, and whilst your wasting there time, you've probably saved 1 or 2 people from a visit by these bullies.

@dennisjones203

3 ай бұрын

Same here .

I have withdrawn the right of access from TV Licencing to my property. It is scary enough living alone as woman pensioner without intrusive harassment. I now also have a doorbell that records all callers.

I remember when I was younger. We didn't pay the TV licensing fee because we dont watch the BBC. The licensing man snuck onto our property and started peering through the window to see if we had a TV presumably. I got an airsoft gun, opened up the window upstairs and started firing it, not at him but just to scare him off. It worked and he ran back to his little car and never bothered us again. The videos up on my channel if you don't believe me

@robburrows2737

8 ай бұрын

I understand that a bucket of poo and wee is quite a good deterrent.

@barryedgerton6685

5 ай бұрын

Who had the air soft gun??

@sparkzy3136

5 ай бұрын

@@barryedgerton6685 ahh typo. I mean I did. Fixed now

@snowflakemelter1172

4 ай бұрын

This never happened though.

@terry-wc9sw

4 ай бұрын

any moment now the armed police are going to pay you a visit .lol

How a TV licence is even a thing is beyond me.

@belfasta

Жыл бұрын

Its a Nazi thing just like Ukraine waste of life and wealth

@tuulenkoti

11 ай бұрын

The rest of the world routinely laughs at us for it (among other things).

@drahcirnevarc9152

11 ай бұрын

I wouldn't mind paying for a tv licence if the BBC was a truly national broadcaster, its programmes were of better quality, and it wasn't woke, left wing, and anti-British.

@minefoxc4015

11 ай бұрын

Oh let me tell you about Italy and the "canone RAI". RAI the TV company decided that their service is essential, and as such EVERYONE that has a TV or ANY device that can connect to the internet must pay the yearly licensing fee. Every household must pay it unless you prove through a lawyer that you do not in fact own anything on any radio frequency, signal or internet that COULD POSSIBLY connect to their channels or radio. If you do not pay you get a 500€ fine. Since Renzi we now get it forced automatically on our electricity bill.

@user-co5ih4qh6y

11 ай бұрын

​@@minefoxc4015oh so that's where those nitwits in polish gouverment took their idea from...

No need to risk appearing suspicious by doing this. If a TV licence goon turns up just say 'no thank you' and close the door.

@trevorbevan587

Жыл бұрын

How can I appear suspicious, by exercising my right and invoking the removal of implied right of access? Do you appear to be suspicious when walking down the street. Your talking nonsense.

@MyVikinglife

Жыл бұрын

@@trevorbevan587 Opinions may differ.

@GampyBamblor

Жыл бұрын

This is actually a con, removing their right of implied access actually then impedes their job and by impeding their job it makes it EASIER for them to get a warrant to then come to your property. Its an old trick that even the bbc used to use to gain access easier. What you have to remember about certain people is, is that they habe sworn an oath to certain bodies and will always remain loyal to them

@bigolbearthejammydodger6527

Жыл бұрын

or you have another reason not to be bothered by them eg work nights? wakes a small child? work from home? Value your privacy? or in my case... Ive been assaulted twice by the thugs forcing their way in.

@learningpianoat61

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Posting a sign attracts attention and can be seen as suspicious.

Some "enforcers" bring warrants on an Ipad. What's that all about? And false warrants ARE being used. My mate phoned the court he was told the case would be to check if there was a case in his name and there wasn't. You would do well to teach us about the perjury act 1911 section 5a. Thanks for what you do 😊

Be careful with sending a WOIRA, it puts you on their radar, I had a friend do it 3 or 4 years ago, once received they proceeded to get a warrant which they executed, fabricated the events and proceeded to prosecute him, he eventually won but it was an awful experience.

@zenster1097

8 ай бұрын

Counter lawsuit?

@robburrows2737

8 ай бұрын

Ask for investigation into perverting the course of justice. It's potentially up to life tariff so puts their puny allegations into context.

@ivormectin.3046

7 ай бұрын

Malicious warrant. I'm sur😢e you could sue.

If any other company used the tactics of TV licensing it would probably be deemed as demanding monies with menaces.

@Helga-fe5xl

11 ай бұрын

Very true

@newforestobservatory9322

10 ай бұрын

Totally agree!!

@user-vc5qk9tg7u

10 ай бұрын

it like if any cuntry go around the world invading and k!lling Irakis, you'd call them terr0rists yet in UK that's perfectly normal, Bla!ir even got knighted. That's how you know how f'd up UK really are.

@queenberengaria9626

9 ай бұрын

It IS demanding money with menaces! It's unbelievable. You are deemed guilty before you can ever get a chance to be proved innocent (& why should you ?) Owning a TV is NO longer the base criteria so proving you are transgressing their rules is even more difficult. It's all way past the point of no return. Give it up and move on, BBC, but don't get me to pay even part of something I'm NOT INTERESTED IN!

@dennisjones203

3 ай бұрын

And I agree 👍

It's really easy... If you get mail that hasn't got your name on it THROW IT AWAY If a stranger knocks on your door DON'T OPEN IT (or speak to them at all.) Finally, revoking implied rights of access may arouse suspicion and be the basis of a court issued warrant. I, personally, wouldn't take this step. Don't give these people any ammunition at all.

@buddhistsympathizer1136

Жыл бұрын

I agree - That was my opinion also. Removing their access may give them a 'heads up' that that house might be breaking the law. I still hold that 'no contact whatsoever' is the best policy.

@jonny1872

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Many people can't help it, either could I when i was young. I did actually do the no license needed for the first two years then cound't be bothered with it, now the letters go straight to the bin. I actually don't watch live tv, or very much tv for that matter though.

@arsenvokrug4198

Жыл бұрын

“No contact” has worked for me for the last umpteen years!

@therealryan1329

Жыл бұрын

Or just declare you don't need one using the online form.....

@alunjones3860

Жыл бұрын

They need evidence for a warrant and they won't be able to gather any, without access to the property.

If you remove implied access rights, you’re getting a search warrant. It’s literally explained in their own policy that removal of access rights is evidence, to them, of evasion. Completely pointless risk, pretend they don’t exist and it all goes away, whether you’re legal or not.

@E1025

10 ай бұрын

Yes, I always thought this makes you look more suspicious than anything. Simply telling them you don't need a tv license and ending the conversation gives them much less to go on.

@girlsdrinkfeck

10 ай бұрын

if the BBC implied right of access to the general public to any of their employees , we should be able to get a warrant to search all their computers for illegal material

@richardk5246

9 ай бұрын

I would be interested to know how many warrants are issued wholly on the fact that someone has removed the implied rights of access. It's OK for the BBC to say that that is evidence of evasion but is that how the courts also see it?

@memyself1566

9 ай бұрын

The simple solution is to be very careful who you open your front door to: install a spy hole.

@girlsdrinkfeck

9 ай бұрын

@@memyself1566 u mean a ring camera

Yes, I had a second home for work that we only used during the week. We never had time to watch TV (or even have one) during the week so we decided not to have a TV license. We had the inspector around a few times, each time explaining the situation. On the last time, we told them they were no longer allowed to come to the property (should have said implied right of access). They never came back.

Thanks for making these videos. I cancelled my TV licence today after I'd finished watching a video you uploaded a few days ago. I was one of the 19%. Times are tough and the money I'm going to save from not paying a TV licence is going to make a real difference to me.

@kenclark9743

Жыл бұрын

I cancelled years ago. I had four visits in the space of about a year. Say nothing after they say your address and shut the door. The fourth time the goon said "Mr...." i just closed the door. That was years ago....they will give up. Don't get annoyed with the letters...one a month...just sling them. It costs Capita to send them😉

@robbie_

Жыл бұрын

I also cancelled mine, though it renewed in January anyway and I didn't ask for a refund. I couldn't be arsed to chase that.

@amojak

Жыл бұрын

nearly 20 years ago here..

@Gryffster

Жыл бұрын

Well done mate. I've been licence free since 2008. Don't miss it for a moment.

@brianlopez8855

Жыл бұрын

I cancelled a couple of licences on 2 properties a few years back and expected prompt repayment of the excess, which I did not receive promptly. I issued a small claim online for about £35 for the sum plus inconvenience. They failed to file an acknowledgement or defence and I had a default judgment. They then tried to wriggle out of it and I threatened enforcement, they paid up in full and promptly. It was a nice little twist.

I declare that I don't need a license and I genuinely don't. No letters, no visits, no nothing from them other than an email once every two years asking me if my status has changed. It takes two minutes to fill out the form and is ultimately a lot less hassle.

@lolzlolz102

Жыл бұрын

Same here. While you shouldn't have to spend your own time telling them you don't need a licence I don't want to run the risk of getting a knock at the door when I've just done a night shift!

@7200932

Жыл бұрын

I’m the same, been licence free for about 6 years now. No letters not had one single visit (unless they have turned up while I have been at work) all I get is an email every couple of years

@andylett2255

Жыл бұрын

Same for me. I get a letter every now and again asking if anything has changed.

@MrBillUp

Жыл бұрын

This is what I have done for the last 10 years as I don't need a TV Licence. I do my application online. Takes two minutes to fill out. I think I had a TV Licence goon around once in that 10 years. I told him I was registered as not needing a licence, he said sorry and left.

@buddhistsympathizer1136

Жыл бұрын

I won't do this on principle. In a similar vein, I wouldn't go to the police and inform them that I won't be murdering anyone in the next two years.

Let’s just remember this is the same organisation that said they had detector vans watching us all which was a complete lie ? I also pay my tv license but getting extremely angry about what they stand for

@enkisdaughter4795

9 ай бұрын

In years gone by I’ve seen Detector Vans out and about.

@WaleshiddenhistoryMD

7 ай бұрын

The Detector vans were just empty vans to frighten people

@Xahnel

6 ай бұрын

​@@enkisdaughter4795 Yeah, those don't do anything. It's physically impossible to detect that someone is receiving a freely broadcast signal.

As someone from America, the whole TV Licensing Officer thing is....just mind boggling. Anyway, great advice and channel.

I had one of these letters about 18 months ago. So far their investigation has gone from 'knowing the name of the person resident at this address' to 'NOT knowing the name of the person resident at this address', amazing investigative skills. 18 months, loads of threat-o-grams and zero door knocks.

@TonyRule

Жыл бұрын

God bless government incompetence.

@Bullwinkle39

Жыл бұрын

Same, it's kind of funny really

@Bullwinkle39

Жыл бұрын

​@@TonyRuleit's not Government though, it's a private company

@davideveritt7984

Жыл бұрын

I had a visit, told them no thanks and shut the door, but the letters after that just had , the legal occupier

@gbkiller007

Жыл бұрын

Ive done the full cycle of bullying tactics twice now and it always goes full circle back to the start where I become the occupier lol. Remove the implied right of access and confirmed by appointment only, by putting up a notice. You be cool.

I sent them (the BBC and Capita) a WOIRA (Withdrawal of implied rights of access) Notice with a letter advising trespassers of a £1500 fine 10yrs ago, they've never been back since. Also never admit or give your name, and send all letters identifying yourself as the Legal Occupier. A Legal Occupier can't be taken to court, they need your name!

@ph8077

Жыл бұрын

'The Legal Occupier' if you want to be official.

@PilotChris06FW

Жыл бұрын

Never send a WOIRA....just ignore them...do you want to be unlucky enough to be subjected to a malicious search warrant. Or at best have it ignore...in which case you've pissed in the wind?

@seraphina985

Жыл бұрын

You do not have the legislative power to issue a fine, you do have the power to issue an invoice provided the terms of the charges were adequately set out in advance. This is the same reason why a bill from a private parking firm for parking is an invoice not a fine they are demanding the money under the terms of the implied contract not under legislation.

@johnshaw8013

Жыл бұрын

True. Wrong choice of wording. My letters have proven bullet proof though as I have had one visit in 10yrs, and they ran away once I produced the WOIRA Notice copy letters.

@bananacyclist

Жыл бұрын

@@johnshaw8013 Hello John. I'm confused. Are you saying you notified them of WOIRA but that they still visited you? Because I thought from the video they had a system to stop that happening? Or am I missing something. Thanks

Just so people here in Scotland know that we don't have these problems. Here you gave privacy laws which means that once you tell them to leave and not come back the most they can do from that point is send letters. You don't need to quote the denied rights of access or any of that you simply tell them to leave the premises and not come back. They are confined to sending threatening letters from then on out and that's what they do on purpose so you contact them. If you contact them they automatically put you on a three year reset so within 2yr they will be back at your door. The police in Scotland now no longer back Capita up even in the event of a warrant being issues so you'd need to have threatened someone at Capita for the police to accompany them here, the police here are now strictly only accompanying them to prevent a breach of the peace nothing more. The warranty they have is nothing but a piece of toilet paper in Scotland you can refuse entry to your own property and they cannot do a thing about it. It requires a proper warranty to force entry and that's strictly the polices job here. The problem for Capita in Scotland is A. Scottish people hate the BBC with a passion, police and all. B. You have actual privacy laws for your property which includes being near windows and anywhere you can see in the main living quarters (this alone messes up their ability to even look in your property after you issued the first warning to leave) so therefore if you've issued them with the warning not to enter the premises again then they cannot get any sort of warranty as there is no possible way to have collected the evidence legally at that point onwards. C. The police won't back them up at all now unless it's extreme cases where serious threats have been made. Sew the letters they send in Scotland, use them as toilet paper and send it back to them. That's what everyone I know does and If you want to know who I am.. well I'm the guy who's firm held the police In the Greater Glasgow area responsible for abuse of powers in correlation to helping Capita and their bogus search warrants. I was In the daily record and everything 😂

Thank you for this video! We stopped watching BBC content probably 10 years ago, and use a variety of subscription services instead. My wife used to respond to their letters, but since I asked her to stop, we have received a series of letters escalating the level of implied threat. This, I perceive to be bullying tactics, marketing by threat. Why do we put up with this? No other (legal) organisation sells its wares by threatening it's potential customers! Anyway, in response to your video, I have just emailed TV licensing with a notice of WOIRA, thank you for the elegant solution to my issue!

@knoxieman

9 ай бұрын

They might stop visiting until they visit with a warrant, removing the implied right of access is really poor advice unless you are being hassled by continual goon visits and most people only get them if they haven't told capita they don't need a licence, if you cancel or inform them you don't need a licence most folks will not have any problems.

Given the letters are threatening and use misleading language, wouldn't it be more simply to all pile on and mass send complaints to Ofcom about this? Any other company using such tactics would be very much subject to adjust their tone and communicate with correct information on threat of high penalties if they don't improve.

Thank you so much for this information. I cancelled my tv licence some time ago because I do not watch or record live TV or any BBC programmes. Since informing the licence authority of this I have been warned I may be visited by one of their 'enforcers', which I find offensive. If I surrender my driving licence I am quite sure the DVLA will not be knocking my door every few months to check.

@christopherdean1326

Жыл бұрын

No, but if you drive without a licence, they will find you...

@sandyblue8082

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherdean1326 of course, but they dont come to your door and try to intimidate you, for not wanting their service.

@wasspj

10 ай бұрын

@@christopherdean1326 The point being that you have to actually break the law before you have to worry about them.

Hi. This was so interesting. I just got a old shop in Scotland which I'm converting back to a house. It has a metal fence and gate 50 feet from the house. I will be contacting BBC about this now as my brother who I care for has mental illness and he only sees doctors. So the gate is closed all the time to stop him from panicking. So thank you for the information. Great work. Martin

ive had visits from tv licencing officers twice im my life. both time i let them straight in to see with their own eyes that i didnt have an ariel hooked up to my tv and it was used primarily for dvds and games. i then got the satisfaction of marching him out of my property as soon as he had seen this. while being marched out he began trying to sell me the benifits of having a tv licence. you can find satisfaction in compliance, as it put me well on the right side of the encounter.

@terry-wc9sw

4 ай бұрын

and then you stuck the metal coathanger in the back of television after they left .lol

They have virtually no way of knowing that you might be watching TV without a licence. That's a massive problem for them, and therefore they have to use "tactics" to get you to buy a licence. Those of us who are not required to own a TV licence because we don't watch live TV or use iPlayer can lead them a merry dance, and cause them to waste time and money.

@jadedshade

7 ай бұрын

Well, they don't have to 😊😊😊😊

@ProffAndy

7 ай бұрын

@@jadedshade Have to do what ?

@jadedshade

7 ай бұрын

@@ProffAndy use "tactics", but as we've seen they're a bunch of assholes

@Xahnel

6 ай бұрын

"virtually" Actually, more like. There is *literally* no method to know you are using a TV to pick up aerial signals without violating your privacy, which is illegal. Position your TV so it can't be seen from the outside. Set your volume so it can't be heard outside. The only way they will know for sure is if you let them in your house and turn on the TV for them, or they violate your rights.

@ProffAndy

6 ай бұрын

@@Xahnel What if they see your TV screen displaying a live broadcast through a window ?

I don't have many friends .. so when the TV man comes to visit i'm positively overjoyed!! We can talk about his hobbies, where he has come from, how many pets he has etc etc. Can't wait for his next sheduled visit! 😂

@SWS9699

Жыл бұрын

You should get naked and answer the door the next time. PARTY TIME and then dance.

@anneking2631

Жыл бұрын

I'm very similar to you jack, live by myself etc, and yes I do chat to people, on my doorstep

@christinewilkinson2424

Жыл бұрын

Made me chuckle, I'll definitely try this 👍

@trueriver1950

Жыл бұрын

To be honest I would prefer a team visit by the Mornings and Jehovah's Witnesses to one from a TV licencing Muppet

@SAHBfan

Жыл бұрын

@@trueriver1950the Jehovah’s witnesses won’t visit me any more. I believe they keep a list of ‘door not to knock on’. I don’t know what the problem is, I just used to chat to them for an hour or two - mostly about the history of the Jehovah’s witnesses and how much the narrative has has to change over the last hundreds years or so because their predictions of doom, gloom and armageddon kept not coming to pass. Seems to really annoy them, for some reason, but I was only showing an enthusiastic interest 😯

I had previously removed ‘implied right of access ‘ to my previous property, they still were able to access the communal building I previously lived in. I simply ignored their communication, that led to significant letters threatening me with possible prosecution, since i moved there has been no follow up.that said... if you get a visit, just close your door, don’t converse with them, at all

What amazes me is that TV licensing think they have a right to do this! Bully boy tactics, especially if you aren't doing anything wrong! People watch tv in different ways now, and its about time they caught up. If I used to have netflix and cancelled my subscription, I didn't watch netflix, they don't send the "heavy mob" round. Badly done TV licensing! It has made me want to give up mine because we don't watch live TV and I rarely watch BBC, and can definitely do without it. I wouldn't pay this much per year for something I very rarely watch with any other tv programme supplying service! Thank you for making your videos!!

How are they allowed to even send misleading letters.

@allyup3404

Жыл бұрын

Let alone in the threatening tone they use. I dare say no other company would be allowed to send such correspondence.

@ph8077

Жыл бұрын

Yes it's the threatening tone to the more vulnerable & uninformed members of society - all funded by us. That's reason alone to get rid of the BBC. Still, I guess that they have to get Linker's ludicrous salary by some means, fair or foul.

@pointer2null

Жыл бұрын

They aren't actully misleading in the legal sense. If you read them carefully (ignoring the font size and colour) they are correct. YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW if you watch tv .... etc

@fatbikemontage2931

Жыл бұрын

@@pointer2null The letter actually shown in this video is misleading. It states “you must get correctly licensed” when you could be correctly unlicensed. This is specifically harassment as they are trying to force someone to do something they are not legally obliged to do. And if you don’t they threaten sending someone to you house (which they can do anyway) or “open an investigation”, which is clearly a threat. They try to claim they are not subject to to the Harassment Legislation as there is an exemption for “the detection of crime”. Although, letters are not capable of detecting something, this is the exemption they claim that allows them to mislead in those letters.

@narutoshippuden3228

Жыл бұрын

Recently received a "warning " letter from BBC license. I'm not bothered as royal mail gets their business. However there is the conflict of chucking it into the recycling bin immediately (not very carbon footprint friendly)

Particular thanks for this video @BlackBeltBarrister. Our disabled adult daughter who lives alone doesn’t need a TV License but due to her mental health conditions wouldn’t be able to handle any intimidating inspector visits, so on balance she decided to keep paying, a protection racket she can ill afford…. With this advice we are helping her to immediately cancel her license and issue the notice of withdrawal of implied consent. Pure gold information. Thank you so much

@Trenchfoot1

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, if you just let them know you don't need a licence they leave you alone for 12 months. Alternatively, I just ignore the letters. They have never visited.

@lonniejockstrap8354

Жыл бұрын

@@Trenchfoot1 Not true in my experience. I moved into a flat after slitting from my wife and decided I wouldn't have a TV due to only intending to stay 6 months. I received a letter from TV Licencing addressed to 'The Occupier'. I responded to their questions and explained I didn't have a TV so didn't have a licencee. They pestered me with letters saying people tell them this and therefore they would be considering a visit to confirm I was telling the truth. I got letters from them every now and again threatening a visit. I just ignored them because I didn't have a TV. But they didn't leave me alone.

@naemasufi7588

Жыл бұрын

@@Trenchfoot1 yep, I have been binning letters for 4 years now. KZread. WTG

@mikeoshea3714

Жыл бұрын

At what point do these letters constitute harassment?

@DJTheBlondeSpirit

Жыл бұрын

My autistic son is the same

I live in Ireland and got rid of my TV over a decade ago. They sent me letters years ago and I was super polite, explained my lack of TV and invited them over for tea and biscuits. After a few letters they eventually asked me to send them a letter saying I had no TV and I've never heard from them from again.

The reason they give you the option to tell them you have moved and transfer your WOIRA is so they know they can start sending people round to the original address because there are new people there.

One additional action. After informing no license requirement, you can request all details relating to you as a person be removed from their records (which does then leave the address only as public information), and that no permission is granted to use this information for any purpose. Reason for this is that the 'enforcement officer' is a third party, and hence any passing on of your information will be a contravention of your privacy and subject to proceedings.

I love the visits and their threatening letters, I smile every time I receive one as I know they just wasted some money that they will never get back from me! It's great! I would love to know all the money they wasted chasing me around for nothing! Been about 25 years worth now, keep it coming I say! :)

@brendangarrity8374

10 ай бұрын

I always return to sender. Hopefully that costs them even more not to mention wasting their time.

I know that at gated and access controlled uni dorms, TVL cannot get in. I had a friendly chat with security one night and they told us that they always turn TVL away and never grant them access. The only way they would be allowed on site would be if they had a warrant after getting proof you were watching television. However, that is highly unlikely to happen at a uni dorm, especially if you're on a higher floor where direct view from the window would be impossible. Fun trick though however, you are covered under the TV licence of your out of term home address as long as you watch the television on a device that is not connected to the mains. This is what allows you to watch iPlayer or live tv while on the go. This little qwerk is used in reverse by TVL to try and pressure business addresses into paying for a TV licence. They try to scare the business owner by telling them that should their staff or customer watch live TV on the premises, they require a TV licence. However, this is only true should someone plug their laptop or phone into charge while doing so.

After the death of my husband of 58 years I received a letter from the BBC telling me I needed at tv licence before I had even buried him. I was distraught.

In the days when the threatening harassment letters included a free post envelope I have been known to return said envelope attached to a house brick. I have since confessed this to several enforcement officers who tend to roll their eyes and walk away.

@andrewdavis6012

10 ай бұрын

I ask do you have a working with children clearance

@etiennedevignolles7538

9 ай бұрын

They haven't sent freepost envelopes for years now. They have a real cheek expecting you to use your own stationery and postage costs (pricey now), not to mention time, to tell them you don't need their crappy "service". The telephone number isn't even freephone, and doing it on the internet has data costs.

@ameliagfawkes512

5 ай бұрын

LOL!

I removed Implied right of access 5+ years ago when an agent visited our house, we didn't give our name and received a letter stating they may contact us again in 5 years. Its been 5+ years without harassment!

@imconfused1237

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. It is NOT hard to do. I pity these losers who simply want the confrontation.

I worked for my local crown court for 15 years executing various warrants every day (not for tv licence evasion), for us a warrant without a court seal was nothing more than a piece of paper and unenforceable, part of my job was to ensure all warrants had a court seal on them prior to any visit.

@jennycolville

3 ай бұрын

What is a court seal? Thanks

@user-or5mu6bt5l

3 ай бұрын

@@jennycolville a court seal is the court stamp where the warrant has been issued. If its not stamped its not an enforceable warrant

Some employees of capita, have been known to break every rule in the book regards gaining entry to properties without a warrant, and I have witnessed this myself.

Don’t answer the door😂😂

@robertburrows6612

Жыл бұрын

If they come with a search warrant. Wether your in or out they can legal force and entry

@troymcclure8851

Жыл бұрын

@@robertburrows6612 Would they really do that on the grounds that you might need a TV licence?! Imagine breaking down your door & there's no TV on the premises...that would be insane to be treated like a murderer.

Yes I removed my implied right of access around 5 years ago. I have not owned a television set since 2014, I do not watch live broadcast TV or BBC iPlayer. I got fed up with their threatening letters, told them by phone, I do not need a TV licence and withdrew their implied right of access. I also told them they will need to have concrete evidence of me watching TV if they turn up with a search warrant, as I will make a complaint to the Human Rights Commission for a breach of my human rights, for obtaining a search warrant through perjury. I have documentation from the BBC which confirms they are subject to Human Rights legislation when acting in an enforcement role. The search warrant application process is subject to PACE requirements, as is the execution and premises search. RIPPA regulations also are applicable in that case as well.

@shaunpatrick8345

Жыл бұрын

They need reasonable suspicion for a warrant, not concrete evidence. Getting a warrant does not invalidate your human rights, snowflake.

@stuontwo677

Жыл бұрын

I let a RIPPA go the other day. The stench was foul. That should keep em' away for a bit.

@robburrows2737

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, that's good to know.

@chrisjackson9978

Жыл бұрын

@William Tell does in England, Wales and Northern Ireland

@kevincoshner310

Жыл бұрын

Chris, I like your suit of armour!

Thank you for this information. I opted out of the TV license when I moved into my rented property in 2021. Up to now, July 2023 I have not received any letter from TV licensing in regard to my opt out. After watching your video, I will revoke their right of access if and when they send me a reminder letter. Keep up the good work.

I don't even live in the UK and I find this outrageous! I didn't know that TV licensing was still a thing in the age of cable TV and internet. The BBC should have changed their business model decades ago, instead of trying to strong-arm people into paying them "protection money", like the mafia. In the US, public TV is partially funded by the government, and partially by viewer donations. You get to choose if their product is worth paying for. If PBS ever sent goons to our homes claiming that we owe them money by dint of the mere fact that we own a TV, they'd be charged with harassment and extortion.

Years ago I had a TV licence man visit me at my workshop, I told him I did not have a TV on the premises as it was an industrial space manufacturing trailers. He would not listen and insisted that I should have a TV licence even if I did not have a TV. I showed him around despite him not being interested in looking, eventually he went away still saying that I should have a licence just in case some working for me brought in a portable TV, I pointed out that you could not hear a radio in there due to the noise I also told him that any one watching TV would not be working for me very long and quite likely never work again due to the various hazards such as moving machinery that required full attention. I think they must have had a quota to fill or something otherwise I do not see why he was so desperate to get me to get a TV licence for industrial premises.

Do not withdraw their implied right of access! This will only give them an opportunity to apply for a warrant stating that your removal of the implied right is a suspicious thing to do. A judge will often sign a warrant, given that you have "suspiciously" removed their implied right. Keep your address as a "black hole" (things come in through the letter box, or knock on the door, but nothing ever goes out, including information).

@Mora41

Жыл бұрын

I remove their right of access about 8 years.. not a letter since.

@dougaldouglas8842

Жыл бұрын

You have the right to ban whom you wish, and suspicion is not evidence. No court would sign a warrant without evidence

@JackDinn

Жыл бұрын

@@Mora41 good luck :) , i tried informing them that i don't need or want a licence, but after a little while (maybe just over a year) i started getting flooded with letters again. Point is that they may or may not pursue you, but i say, just be the address that never replies or even opens the door. Do not stick your head above the parapet. You might get away with it, but you may not.

@dougaldouglas8842

Жыл бұрын

@@Mora41 Told the beggars I would have their man arrested for harasment, and forgery, spelling out to them why. That was 2010. Not been bothered since.

@stevedawg9588

Жыл бұрын

Something a "Barrister" should know don't you think? This guy is a fraud.

Just done it, following your instructions. Thanks for your help!

I have read on other forums that removing implied right of access could actually be used by Capita as supporting grounds when applying for a warrant.

They once sent me a letter to say they were coming on the 25th of December. I laughed at their automated letter and said to the wife “we need to set an extra chair at the table for Christmas dinner”. I don’t watch live TV. I don’t watch the i player. I’m a little bit sick of their threatening letters. I’ve been under investigation many times and nobody has turned up.

The courts obviously work for the big corporations to get said warrant. Otherwise warrants would be really difficult to get. Also the tv licence could be charged for harrasment and falsely claiming to be someone they arnt (they are salesmen not officers) to enter your house.

@user-eg8pv2om7j

8 ай бұрын

Sadly the courts , magistrate can be presented with bulk cases , adjudications of 100/500 Unless a defendant turns up to challenge such bulk applications are rubber stamped for enforcement en masse .

This is fantastic advice. Now I can watch live tv and get away with not paying for it. Thanks for all your help. You’re the best.

@sadiporter2966

8 ай бұрын

don't watch via iplayer though as they will have your ip address.

This has got to be the most useful video of the week! Learned so much from this.

The reason for the reference number when you move is so they can start visiting your old address to make visits on any new tenant. Otherwise there may be loads of houses they can't visit

They like it when people call them TV Licence “Officers” but in reality they are just doorstop salespeople.

@Mora41

Жыл бұрын

yep he got that wrong

@shaunpatrick8345

Жыл бұрын

They are officers because of what they do and what Officer means. They are not salespeople because of what they do and what Salespeople means. A salesperson would tell you how great TV is. They don't need to sell anything, they just enforce licenses.

@briankearney1619

Жыл бұрын

@@shaunpatrick8345 There is no need to enforce a license if one is not needed, therefore they are trying to sell you one.

@shaunpatrick8345

Жыл бұрын

@@briankearney1619 if you don't need one they don't make you buy one. They are not selling you licenses, they are enforcing them.

@briankearney1619

Жыл бұрын

@@shaunpatrick8345 If you dont need one then there is nothing to enforce. They will offer to sign you up for one though. These guys are on commission.

I'd never heard about that. Thanks for posting.

Very clear explanation of the legal position regarding both requirements for having a television licence and implied rights of access to ones property. Thank you.

I've received lots of Capita letters threatening a visit by an "enforcement officer" on a certain date but they never arrive. I had four visits over a few months years ago when I first cancelled the telly tax but said nothing and shut the door. Not had a goon at my door since and I bin their letters.

A sign reading NO TRESPASSING OR SOLICITING on the outside of your property does the trick. No need to interact with people.

This is a very interesting idea and if I get harrased again I might use it. I use to be harrassed by tv licensing all the time until I became a Baptist pastor and started telling them about Jesus Christ - now they haven't bothered me for years!

Always excellent content, very well done

On names being requested. About five years ago I kept getting the TV license letters (addressed to "Legal Occupier") for years but no visits so I snapped at the waste of the Earth's Resources and filled in the online declaration that I didn't need one. A week later I had my first agent visit - who was armed with my name.

@chrisbuxton1958

Жыл бұрын

No contact whatsoever is the safest and best policy.

@robburrows2737

Жыл бұрын

Just call him if he enters he has consented to bodily interference.

@Bushkin84

Жыл бұрын

you made the big mistake of putting your name on the declaration

@leecromer3289

Жыл бұрын

They even ask for your telephone number and email address on the no licence needed form…

@TiberiusWallace

Жыл бұрын

@@leecromer3289 Yeah which they're use to compare to the iplayer account list.

Yes, I have done that. I also wrote to tell them that any future correspondence from them would be treated as harassment. So they no longer write to me, and they no longer visit.

Got this letter a few days ago..Not had a TV licence for two years now as I do not watch live TV. thank you for this info. I will be contacting them not allowing to enter my property..

Great to see someone who holds a position like yourself be so down to earth and for the people...In these trying times where Tyranny is the word of the day to describe what the ruling classes are up to it would be great if you could maybe talk about Constitutional Law...That Law that has, by design, been airbrushed out of We The People's memory for the past 40 years...Most people don't even know, through no fault of their own that we even have a Constitution and are Sovereign beings..You could really help right now...

Removing their implied right of access just gives them one more reason to apply for a search warrant, ignoring all contact with TVL is in my opinion the best course of action

@mw01908

Жыл бұрын

Correct, because they actually have no detection equipment, the idea of a detector van is a myth, they had no equipment in them, just a visual threat to people was their purpose

@article21gdpr

Жыл бұрын

correct this is what they have been known to do he gives very poor advice dangerous man

@llVIU

Жыл бұрын

exercising your rights to kick people off your property when they harass you shouldn't be considered "suspicious" but the fact is that we live in a corrupt society

Years ago I got a TV licence stamped at the post office with 1.5 years instead of 1 year. After 3 months they visited claiming I had no licence yet I showed them several times. I wrote to them by sending letters with a copy of the licence. They claimed that I had to send the original licence by post which I refused. They were harassing me and in the end I said take me to court but I warned them that the TV licence document was correct which I had paid in full. TV licences claimed they had no record on their database for this licence.

Great information pal. Well presented!

A thousand thank yous. Years ago I was intimidated verbally bullied by two door step ‘officials’. We had only just moved I was heavily pregnant and busy, completely forgot to renew our license…. was given a choice, prison or fine, paid the fine we could barely afford renewed licence and have ever since. No more though …..

@amojak

Жыл бұрын

bastards :(

Can you imagine if some guy from Netflix demanded entry into your home because you didn't pay them.

Can you please make a video on how to correctly identify a valid search warrant from a fake one, thanks.

Why and how are they able to continue with their bullying and threatening behaviour!? This is utterly underhanded and totally diabolical.

I sent one of these letters back and told them I had already notified them that I don't need a licence and I told them I have no intention of repeating the same thing over and over again and that I only have to tell them once. I pointed out that I know the law about the requirement for a TV licence and I didn't need them to keep reminding me of the law, I also told them that if they keep harassing me about it I would take legal action against them. I have not heard a thing since and that was about two and a half years ago, it could be a couple of months either way.

I've had a good few of these letters. They've never turned up on the date stated.

Hi. Great video. Thanks for the information. I don’t require a TV licence under the regulations and replied to their letter by making a declaration. They confirmed receipt of that declaration. However, as I do not wish to be visited and interrogated in my own home by strangers I’ll use this information and send them a WOIRA email today. Many thanks again 👍

I have lived in my current home for about seven years now, and they visited me about a year after I moved here. Once they said who they were I just said "No," and then closed the door and they haven't been back since. I still get the regular letters addressed to "The legal Occupier," which I write on "Unknown at this address, return to sender," and drop in the post box to be returned to them.

Do TV licencing fall into the realm of door to door cold calling? Are they doorstep selling? If so, could we not just put a notice on the window saying no cold callers?

@Sparks1Plumbers0

9 ай бұрын

YES As these so called Enforcement Officers are basically just TV Licence sales people they fall under the heading of plain old Cold Callers. [unless as mentioned they actually have a valid live warrant for your address]. So nip over to that wonderful auction site and get yourself either a No Cold Callers sign or a Removal of Implied Right of Access sign and stick up outside your house (best on the outer wall of your property or your gate/gatepost ) I personally have a rigid sign fixed to our gates and anyone calling at the house is simply informed about the sign they have just walked passed and ignored and they soon turnaround and move on. 😊 The BBC are a corrupt and out of date organisation that in my opinion should be shut down once and for all given their near continuous moral failure of scandal after almost weekly scandal which they put more effort into brushing under the carpet to try to keep things quite instead of maintaining any form of moral decency. TBH they, the BBC are a left over from the morally corrupt past of big British Corporations ... a bit of an Old Boys club so the only way to deal with this old dinosaur is to put it out of our misery by everyone voting with your wallets, stop watching their drivel and cancel your licence. You know it makes sense so what's stopping you. 🤔

The best defence against ANY unwanted person on your doorstep is a video doorbell. The cheapest and most effective way to protect your ID from post or packaging is a match. Burnt paper & cardboard is high in carbon and phosphorous so is great for the compost heap.

@stevedawg9588

Жыл бұрын

Open door, ask for ID, the SALESMEN must identify...then say "no thank you" shut door...end of subject.

from comments " just the stress and anxiety " but also the time & cost to go attend Court ... Yes, and we live in Scotland. Thnx for your videos

Thank you Daniel, you really are a diamond . God bless you and yours : )

Thanks for confirming locked gates are where implied access stops. Best money we ever spent was gating the property, done initially to keep our friendly dogs in but since fitted we get almost no odd callers of any description.

@gittin_funky

11 ай бұрын

if you lock your gates how do yo handle deliveries, post etc

@lewlewis6511

11 ай бұрын

@@gittin_funky Mail box set into the pedestrian side gate when it was made, simple intercom mounted above which rings a dedicated phone in the house, neither of these are expenive things. Trust me this is some of the wisest money you will ever spend, along with cameras and a pro alarm system, its not about making your home a fortress its about detering undesirables, keeping TV licence salesmen away is just a side bonus.

@gittin_funky

11 ай бұрын

@@lewlewis6511 ah i see. Do you have to lock the gate to have implied right of access removed? or is closed with slide bolt enough? do you put any signs e.g. no canvasing etc

@lewlewis6511

11 ай бұрын

@@gittin_funky Both the main car access gates and the pedestrian gate have inbuilt locks, they are never left unlocked as our friendly dogs roam the premises freely, anyone entering has either broken a lock or have climbed over the gates, presumably if the gate was left unlocked implied right of access might apply. No need for signs, we live at the end of a quiet cul de sac so people passing isn't an issue.

@gittin_funky

11 ай бұрын

@@lewlewis6511 ok thanks. We have car gates and pedestrian gates but they are not locked. we just have a slide bolt that anyone can open. I guess I would need a sign up to remove implied access? We also deliveries of all sizes coming daily so not sure a mailbox would work for us

I just read that the BBC in response to a FOI , have stated that there is NO withdrawal of the common law of right of access for TV licensing officers to approach my property and WOIRA is NOT recognised under Scottish Law 😮 How can I legally get around this ?

@trevorbevan587

Жыл бұрын

Simple. Get your Scottish Government to give you Scottish Residents the Right to Withdraw Implied Rights of Access. Either that, or move to England, Ireland or Wales.

@delux976

Жыл бұрын

Krankie was in charge what do you expect

I’ve not had a license for 4 years and no visits at all in the time. I live in a fairly big town too so I’m surprised nobody has ever turned up. The letters seems to go round in cycles too, from asking, to visit scheduled and then back to asking again.

I was terrorised by Tv license enforcement for owning a small piece of agricultural land even after writing explanation letters and receiving confirmation they just never stopped harassing me I have always paid my tv license they trespassed to place their letters on my property It was very distressing and nobody would listen or help

They could save all this malarkey (and a fortune) simply by putting the BBC on optional subscription like Netflix. If BBC is as wonderful as they say it is, then they should have no problem in collecting enough subscriptions.

@ph8077

Жыл бұрын

I'd pay for their news & current affairs but nothing else, certainly not their comedy, drama etc - I prefer my woke brainwashing to be free of charge!

I used to let them in every year and was very funny watching them try so hard to get a live signal from a PC at the time. This then changed when I was sent a very nasty letter one year and while I am not easily offended I was 35 at the time and felt sick to my stomach with what it was literally threatening in red writing. Now had this of been sent to an elderly person i am pretty sure they may of had a heart attack. From this point I removed right of access to the property and in ten years have not been visited so far. I have seen many different types of letter, normally one a week but thankfully never that nasty thing they sent that made me put my foot down. If I ever come across the letter I will have to post it online as pretty sure I still have it stored somewhere.

The installments scheme option doesn't fall under the FCA radar because it's classed as unregulated credit. It's via honour only, but if you fail to stick to your installment payments then the BBC can simply cancel your existing licence so your property will become classed as 'unlicenced'.

I always understood that you were obliged to let them see your TV licence and your TV, but that you were not obliged to let them into your premises. I refused them entry on 2 occasions. Once years ago when I lived in a HMO with 3 other people, one of whom had a TV licence because she rented her TV. The rest of us has TVs but no separate licences which we were supposed to have because we all had lockable doors. I told them that there was a TV licence for the premises but that the person was out and I didn't know where she kept it. I refused to admit them. Another time I lived in a flat and didn't have a TV licence for several years until I bought a new TV. When they came I flatly denied having a TV (I never turned it on unless I was watching a programme and then I turned it off, it was never on in the background) and refused them entry. No repercussions from that either, but my upstairs neighbour did let them in and he got caught.

Thankyou for this latest video on the TV licence BBB, it balances things out a little more, makes things a little fairer, levels the playing field. And as god knows in this corrupt world we need all the fairness and balance we can get.. Once again thankyou for taking the time and giving this information.

Some time ago I had removed the right of access from T V licencing when they came round I was asked to give my name for their records which I declined to give bout a week or so later I received through the post from the BBC confirming the rights removed. Personally I think if they have a name they then have someone to possibly go after through the courts system as opposed to using The Occupier

I have a big pair of solid electric gates, which removes any question of whether there may be an implied right of access. Works very well for all sorts of undesirables..

When I last moved, I was sent a letter, all very green and non threatening asking if I required a TV licence, returned the form stating I didn't, has a reply saying they might contact me in a few years to see if that's still the case and haven't heard anything since, all very civil and simple.

Thank you for these videos - very helpful, and very interesting to see the BBC policy on WOIRA. I withdrew the implied right of access for TV Licencing in Februrary 2009, and this was acknowledged by them. I hope I'm not tempting fate, but I've never had a visit from TVL in the subsequent 14 years.