Loving your videos man been playing last year or so and bit feels like I've learned more of your videos in 2 days then I have of everyone else within a year I never knew what CIT or all the factors were bit now I do can't wait to practice them tomorrow

This is the best explanation of ‘throw’ that I’ve heard. I have played snooker for a few years, but this video was still helpful.

Love all your videos. Brillaint teaching style where I feel like you’re just a player like me & creates the feeling that your level is achievable. I remember in one of your early vids that you used to be a very basic player not that long ago and now…a master.

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

😂 Thank you, not sure about a master but I am getting better. I'm a million miles off the pros but hold my own at local league level. I'm better at teaching than playing! 😂

@wakstar1

Жыл бұрын

@@PoolSchool you’re a player like us that’s the key

As a snooker player this is such a good explanation as well. I am going to check this out on the table right now. I had completely disregarded this info in the past.

Thank you, most people only tell you about ghost ball but never mention anything about the throw effect. Thank you for your generosity. 🙏

Great video as always. There's also another effect that changes this throw angle which is the rotation that is currently on the cue ball at the point of contact. More spin = a 'thinner', more true angle and when the cue ball isn't rotating it's 'thicker'. This has a big effect when you've landed a bit close to the object ball, say 1-4 inches away. Watch any player try and pot this and they will miss to, specifically, the thick side because of this effect and also the pace effect that you've mentioned. When they're close they have the nervousness of a double hit /no follow through and also the stun effect making the angle thicker.

Precious lessons as usual. Thank you.

Great video and an issue that is mostly overlooked when missing simple cuts to a pocket, i find when playing on 9ft tables with 2 1/4 balls this is even more an issue due to the heavier larger balls

Thank you for this. This actually helped since sometimes I have trouble with those thin cuts

Fantastic! Many thanks!

Ohhhh now I understand why it was happening. Thanks for valuable information.

Excellent video. I’m a bit of a cut specialist but traditionally played them at pace. Now that I concentrate more on position rather than potting I noticed I missed a few when I played the shot at a slower pace and instinctively over cut those pots now. I realise now that it was the throw effect. I don’t play these shots with running side as on a pool table it is very easy to lose the cue ball with unnecessary side!

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes you can use side instead but like you say it's not always desirable when it comes to controlling the cue ball.

@dnbmania

Жыл бұрын

@@PoolSchool Mr pool school, what is you opinion on the 'play with side' advice that everyone will give you down the pub? For me, it doesn't make much sense as this comes from a snooker background where the cueball and object ball are the same and you just need to 'find the gap' between the ball and the cushion. The only benefit I can think of is what I alluded to in my other comment, that the more spin you have on the cueball the more true the cut is. But this undoubtedly makes the pot harder if playing with running side. The 'helping side' part I can agree with for making your life easier

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

I have had several comments about this so might be easier to make a video about it.

Interesting take. However, cut induced throw is commonly the largest at around 30 degrees shown by ample research. So in your example, the first shot has a greater throw than the second. If the angle gets higher and the cut thinner, the cut induced throw has less of an effect. This is because the there is less mass hitting the ball. Think of it when you cut at almost about 90 degrees and send the ball object ball almost perpendicular to the side. If it had the largest cut induced throw at that angle, the ball would be moving significantly less than 90 degrees. However, you can fairly achieve angles of around 88 degrees and the ball goes where the ghostball is at these high angles. What is absolutely correct though is that slow balls induce more throw - again because of a longer contact time. At the end it boils down to the feel. Good players don't calculate these shots. They do these adjustments subconsciously. Hence, it may seem to you that the cut induced throw is the largest with a larger angle, but most likely because of your experience and having played this shot thousands of times, you have automatically adjusted your aim.

nice epi !

Funny how I often forget about throw even though I use ghost ball 99% of the time. I have noticed over the years that if I have a complex angle, say 58 degrees, and a lot of distance, I find it immensely helpful to stand back about 6 or 7 feet (provided the room will allow it) and gauge the angle from there. Not sure if this is because it lets me "walk into" my shot better or because the distance somehow clarifies the true angle better. Perhaps both, I dunno. I do highly recommend it though, and I see pro players do it quite a bit with these types of shots as well.

thanks a lot!

Great video and explanation. Hope your channel grows, its very well done and informative!

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, it's growing slowy.

I'm really enjoying your videos and they're making a difference in my game. Do you have a video on how to double when the object ball is on the cushion?

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I don’t have one on that specifically, but I have one on standard doubles. The same principles apply but the issue is that the cue ball can get in the way depending on the angle. Maybe something I can cover in another video.

Fantastic channel and video - so clear and informative keep them coming! Can you tell me which pool cue you use?

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

Cheers. It’s a “Taylor Made” cue

Great content as usual. I have a suggestion for a video that would certainly help me. Dealing with position when potting an object ball thats deep into the pocket (almost about to fall into the pocket). Usually any deflection of the white results in catching the curvature of the cushion in the pocket unless you hit the object ball reasonably full ball with screw back. trying to get position at the other end of teh table is tricky. any hints and tips would help.

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

Than you. Yes I know what you mean, it can be very awkward. I seem to remember talking about it in a previous video so I will have a look and see if I can find it for you. If not it is definitely something worth covering.

great

Once again a great video! Now when you have a deep cut shot and we’re aiming to the other side of the pocket, couldn’t you just add outside English and then aim to the middle of the pocket or would there still be enough throw so we would still miss the pocket. What’s your thought? Thank you stephen

@PoolSchool

10 ай бұрын

Yes you can, it has the same effect. You obviously need to factor in things that are thrown up by using side though (of which there are several)

Your videos and instructions are second to none. I would love to know what video software you are using and method for creating these overlay graphics. Thank you.

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

Thank you much appreciated. I use Adobe After Effects for all the editing and graphic overlays. I'm a 3D animator/motion graphics designer for a living so it helps!

@toretull

Жыл бұрын

@@PoolSchool I'm not surprised to learn you have this as a job. It shows. I'm a veteran of the sport myself. 15 years as active player. Your insight, knowledge and presentations, shines. You're better at it than just about everyone out there. I'll have a look at Adobe and see if i can make sense of it. And thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

I have one question. I have astigmatism problem. When i look at the Cueball, i see 2 object ball. When i look at the object ball, i see 2 Cueball. But when i aim with 1 eye (like aiming a gun), i see only 1 Cueball and 1 object ball. So, should i practice to play with one eye? (Sorry for bad english)

cool!

Lining the ball up as if to miss to the left side of the pocket in order to pocket the ball has one issue that I have found while playing. After a few shots like this you actually do miss to the left side. What do we do about this?

Excellent video. However, you are missing one very important part of this and that is what is known as "Helping Side". The throw effect is caused by the friction that is generated when the 2 balls collide. One way (which a lot of professional snooker players use) to negate the throw effect is to use helping side. How this works is by the fact that the side spin cancels out the throw. To use helping side all you need to do is use what is known as "Outside Side". So, in the example where you are cutting the ball back to into the corner pocket you would apply some right hand side. The right hand side cancels out the throw as the object ball travels in the left hand direction and as such you can still aim for the centre of the pocket.

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yes using side is another solution but it does add further complexity into the shot. Using side can cause deflection which is then another factor you have to consider. It also might not be desirable to have the side if the cue ball is going into a cushion as it changes your position. It definitely is another way of doing this though. Which method you use depends on where you are trying to get the cue ball after the pot.

@malakingdude

Жыл бұрын

I think he's discussing/tesching basics and it's very good 👍.

@andyharris3376

Жыл бұрын

I remember when I was learning about collision induced throw it seems to take me forever to get the concept but you do hear a lot of Poolplayer‘s from old school America talk about a touch of the outside to cancel it out if you’re stroking the ball really well it won’t even see the side spin after he contacts the object ball. The confusing part of this might be for up-and-coming players as they think they have to put a lot of spin on it to cancel it out I was watching one pro he was putting about a 16th of an inch on the que ball which is A small Amount if you have a decent stroke you’re not gonna have any deflection if you’re using a quarter of the tip of outside. I have found the only time that deflection becomes an issue is if you’re popping the ball or what I call slapping it instead of stroking through the ball. But when I started training I learned how to shoot with no spin which I think was very beneficial now I can spin or not spin, you learn it all and it’s best to learn without spin in the beginning. My humble opinion.

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

I have had several comments about this so might be easier to make a video about it.

@Raspy387

Жыл бұрын

​@@PoolSchool am I correct in thinking when cutting a ball in as well as playing with back spin this can straighten the object ball up so you would have to aim thinner the reason I ask is for instance I played a shot on the 8ball in this way as the natural was close to in off but when I played it the 8ball straightened up quite a lot which resulted in missin the pot

i like it

Give more examples of throw from different sides and parts of the table

need to understand aiming point and contact point for half ball and quarter ball hit from center cue ball as described by sightright.. check it out

A lot of the American pool players use side spin induced-throw to cancel out cut-induced throw, is this as prominent/useful in english pool?

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

I have had several comments about this so might be easier to make a video about it.

Hi! Great binge-worthy content and I doubt you'll see this comment, much less respond, but I'd like to see a video demonstrating various pro players' strokes. Some players have a long, beautiful almost "wavy" or loopy, loose and relaxed stroke resembling a"figure 8" or see-saw motion like many Filipino players, including Efron and Bustamante. While others have a high and frozen elbow with a straight take-back and follow-through. Hope I'm describing this right. I love Efron and SVB's stroke. Thank you!

@PoolSchool

9 ай бұрын

Thank you, glad you like my videos. It’s not these easiest video to do because ideally I’d need footage for comparison and copyright laws make that a little difficult. I’ll look into it though.

Greetings, are you playing with a snooker cue? I meant the handle

@PoolSchool

10 ай бұрын

No, it’s an English pool cue, although it’s closer to a snooker cue than an American pool cue.

@bacgleb

10 ай бұрын

@@PoolSchool in love with it! thanks!

How does throw effect the tangent line of the cueball after striking the object ball

@billynewton202

11 ай бұрын

I mean does it follow the line perpendicular to angle of it hitting ball initially or perpendicular to path object ball takes?

@PoolSchool

11 ай бұрын

It doesn’t change (takes the line perpendicular to the initial contact). It’s the object ball that is “thrown”.

Hi, I have lost sight in left eye, and have reduced vision in right also, this was recently, I am in need of help with aim, I’ve played for years and am so upset and frustrated with missing pots through mis allignment. Can you suggest anything or anyone to help. Southend.

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

Really sorry to hear that and must be incredibly fraustrating. I don't know too much about it but all I can suggest is making sure that you right eye is right over the cue. Even with two eyes people tend to be more dominant in one than the other and place the cue nearer to the dominant eye. With one eye the cue would have to be right over and closer to your jaw/cheek than your chin. If you've always cued with the cue under your chin this might feel odd to start with but it should help once you get used to it. Unfortunately the reduced vision is not something you can do much about.

@turbogigwoof2321

Жыл бұрын

Ok, thanks I’ll try find a coach, I need someone to see what I’m doing differently as I try to adjust. Thanks anyway

How come you don't use a camera to show exactly the point of impact on the q ball and object ball?

@PoolSchool

6 ай бұрын

I only have the one camera at present, something I might look to add in the future though.

You produce some great videos. I enjoy and benefit from watching them. However, you've got a point wrong in this video. Throw doesn't continue to increase with the cut angle as you have stated. It does increase up to a half ball hit, where it's at it's maximum and then decreases again as the cut gets thinner. With a very thin cut throw isn't as significant. Throw also decreases with speed, as you've said. Top and bottom also reduce throw. Throw is maximum with a slow half ball stun shot.

I take it you use a low deflection cue? ive used one but don't own one and they seem more responsive to the cue ball, but is that just a daft old mans view?

@PoolSchool

Жыл бұрын

No I don't. As far as I'm aware they are more of an American pool cue thing, I don't think you really get them for English Pool (although someone will probably tell me you can?).

@paulgreen758

Жыл бұрын

@@PoolSchool I only used one playing 9 ball when I was in the states, I’m happy with a pub cue over here, if I was a better player I’d invest in a decent cue, but not one with our smaller tables with broom handle tips, using a snooker cue it didn’t stop Ronnie beating Earl, thank you for the reply, I’m working through your drill to try to improve

Great information but I find it quite hard to visualise the ghost ball especially on long shorts. Is their any other reliable aiming system? Especially for long shorts.

@PoolSchool

9 ай бұрын

There are other aiming systems but I tend to find them overly complex. However some of these systems are also based on the cue ball being the same size as the object, so don’t work properly for the smaller cue ball used in English pool.

Pool simulators show this if aim lines are switch on, the line changes depending on the power or spin.

I took many years off from playing. 29 in total. I decided I was going to get really good again. Started watching videos ad nauseam. When I started practicing this I noticed my shit went exactly in the line , every dang time. When I allowed for throw, it would go exactly where I was aiming?? Makes no sense because there is an actual thing and I've seen it work. For some reason I can't seem to recreate it unless I'm actually compensating and not realizing I am. Maybe my old instinct came back and muscle and eye coordination make the adjustment to my stroke. Very strange. Left hand and right hand English work exactly as they should but I can't get throw to recreate the way others can. I don't question it anymore, I just aim and it usually always goes in. Go figure

Please place the balls to the same spots when comparing techinques, otherwise it's pointless (for example 3:17 compared to 3:32). As a pro you should know what to use for that, I use a piece of a layer of toilet paper.

3:15 and 3:34 is totally different cuts...

you need to place the cam on the top position not the side 😅😅😅

When you guys talk about using “side” is that the same as us Americans saying “english”?

@PoolSchool

7 ай бұрын

Yes It's the same thing.

Still don't understand