How to ACTUALLY use Logic's Mastering Assistant (In-Depth Tutorial)

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  • @TheBandGuide
    @TheBandGuide7 ай бұрын

    ‼ Download the free 6-Step PRO MIX Checklist here: www.thebandguide.com/logicpromix ‼

  • @A_Cuppa_Joe
    @A_Cuppa_Joe7 ай бұрын

    This is by far the most useful and clear video about mastering that I've watched. The process always seemed vague and nebulous, which intimidated me. When I saw the Mastering Assistant, I was so happy to just set and forget it, or nudge here and there and find my way to learning mastering. Understanding the concepts as tone, dynamic, and stereo shaping, that I learned from this video, has been immense. Thank you so much!

  • @martylucas5814
    @martylucas58146 ай бұрын

    by far the most useful video I found on this subject -- and the best takeaway -- learn from observing what the Mastering Assistant does, a tip I immediately put to work. thanks!

  • @PaulHofreiter
    @PaulHofreiter3 ай бұрын

    I’ve been using it a lot too. Really great resource. One thing worth mentioning is that it will master the whole track, OR a highlighted section. I am finding that if I highlight the chorus or otherwise the most dense or loud section that what it suggests gives me a lot more ideas than having it just analyze the whole track.

  • @burneronhighofficial
    @burneronhighofficial6 ай бұрын

    Very good explanation. Thank you Colin!

  • @R0BL68
    @R0BL687 ай бұрын

    Please please never stop these videos !! Always so informative !

  • @TheBandGuide

    @TheBandGuide

    7 ай бұрын

    You got it, rob!

  • @cameronpatrickscott
    @cameronpatrickscott6 ай бұрын

    Great stuff, nice and thorough walk through, cheers dude. subbed.

  • @user-pu8mk6sh3b
    @user-pu8mk6sh3b10 күн бұрын

    Another great video, cheers

  • @Moykel
    @Moykel5 ай бұрын

    Great session Colin. Watched it twice already, will watch again, thank you, lots of LUFS.

  • @keithswan
    @keithswan6 ай бұрын

    Great learning. Thanks.

  • @DanMia-cd1bm
    @DanMia-cd1bm14 күн бұрын

    in watching this video for the second and third time, I'm learning more about what makes you great at doing this, how your unselfishness in making great records works its magic..no ego..it's what comes out of the speakers. Love that concept, it says volumes about getting it right and challenging yourself to do better..Thanks Colin

  • @Trolldeig_Guitar
    @Trolldeig_Guitar4 ай бұрын

    Thank you 🙏 every video make is really great and helpful! You are good at explaining and choosing nice stuff to make tutorials about! Keep it up!

  • @jimdequine6133
    @jimdequine61336 ай бұрын

    I've been using mastering assistant for the last week or two, and watched your video to get some tips. Something I've discovered, you may want to consider - I add mastering assistant in at the end of the chain in my previous mastering attempt. Each time I've done it it has brought something to my attention that I was missing. And, in a couple cases, I just left it in because it made my mix better.

  • @susanparis7702
    @susanparis77027 ай бұрын

    Your video was so helpful. Can'r wait until I get to the mastering stage in the project I am working on to try it out.

  • @rileymakay2024
    @rileymakay20243 ай бұрын

    Great video, I really love your honesty in the review. I am a novice and have lots to learn. This is a great start.

  • @Hammerman48
    @Hammerman486 ай бұрын

    I really like the valve setting….all four are useable! Love the mastering assistant.

  • @CoryRyanHoward
    @CoryRyanHoward7 ай бұрын

    I have been using the mastering assistant A LOT. But I turn it on and off while I’m mixing to get an idea of how the mix is sounding with a semi-accurate master. Then i turn it off and continue the mix. It just kind of gives me an idea of how the song will sound mastered which helps me hear if anything is jumping out.

  • @petercramer6123
    @petercramer6123Ай бұрын

    Thank you for the info a well done presentation

  • @thestonedrummer6147
    @thestonedrummer61475 ай бұрын

    Using the Punch setting in the Character section mostly and really gives my project hmmmph 😮 thanks for this by the way

  • @lou-ski
    @lou-ski7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Great video. There isn't a lot of vids about this topic, since it's so new... I have tested this feature with all four Characters with various settings(custom eq, loudness, etc), Analyze Section vs Analyze All, etc. There is def a good difference between them and I do find (on my mix) that loudness and excite can add that extra goodness to the mix. I have bounced versions for each one and def. feel the difference. One of my biggest issues is forgetting to turn it off when I go back to my mix and tweek it. With it still turn on, I am tweaking the Assistant's Mix and not my mix.. And truthfully, I am haven't decided if that is a good or bad thing.. Anyway.. good stuff. Thanks.

  • @DanMia-cd1bm
    @DanMia-cd1bm20 күн бұрын

    here you go again..making it make sense...you're a great teacher

  • @MarkBlasquez
    @MarkBlasquezАй бұрын

    Great demo. Best I've seen on this plugin yet. Downloaded the guide, Liked, Sub'd and even bought the song on iTunes (yes, some people still do that). Thank you.

  • @TheBluuHouse
    @TheBluuHouse2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!! I actually came here to learn about what the Character options are doing in the Logic mastering section. I'v noticed "Transparent" or "Clean" has been my go to. It really seems to just be the type of master bus compression on the mix. Transparent is little to no compression, "Valve" puts vocal deep in the mix and punch of course you hear the compressor breathing, Perfect for those heavy dance, house or trap tracks while there is a lot of ducking around the low in. I just wish I could see what it's doing on the back end.

  • @normjones6916
    @normjones69167 ай бұрын

    Hey great teacher you are spot on , using it as a tool. On a Mac Studio max the other options giv you different flavours of learning :)

  • @Firetuna1
    @Firetuna14 ай бұрын

    i just started using it. But as far as I understand, you don't have to have a mixed down version of the song, you can just paste it on the stereo out of the multitrack session. then you can go back and change things easily.

  • @obscaded
    @obscaded4 ай бұрын

    Yeah I think your original mix had more dynamic life to it. I do like that the mastering plug-in made you aware of the high midrange issue you hadn't heard before. I have a similar fight with my mixes in that frequency range too. Good video, 👍🏻

  • @SouLahtheLegend
    @SouLahtheLegendАй бұрын

    I like the vocals on your master better, and the instruments on the Logic master. However, I have found that the Transparent chain handles my vocals better. This tutorial is great! I learned so much. I may never use eMastered again lol. I have been haviing trouble with loudness but after watching this I think I can fix it.

  • @johnvender
    @johnvender7 ай бұрын

    On my M1 iMac so far I like Valve and Transparent most. Which of the two depends on what I'm mastering.

  • @dougholton3967
    @dougholton39672 ай бұрын

    I've experimented with automation with this-especially with the spread. Creates some great effects on a more dynamic mix. Close and centered for more intimate moments and big and wide for things like string sections or ending choruses. Great tutorial

  • @dougholton3967

    @dougholton3967

    2 ай бұрын

    Also, Valve and Punch are the two go-to's to start. The default clean just sounds more brittle to me. Great tool to have in the... er, mix :)

  • @rainbows4dinos
    @rainbows4dinosАй бұрын

    +1 for using actually using a pleasent music sample.

  • @earwerm
    @earwerm6 ай бұрын

    Always enjoy your easy to follow videos. I'd like to see a more in depth video of your normal mastering process that you brushed over. My Mac is too old to get the new version of Logic & I've tried various mastering options to varying degrees of success. I've used Emastered but it adds far too much "varnish" on mixes for my liking, even when using the reduced options. Way too expensive to continue my subscription(converted to NZD doesn't help)! I'm sure Landr & Emastered will be losing business with this great Logic advancement lol! Cheers

  • @JohsBe
    @JohsBe6 күн бұрын

    Turn exciter in mastering plugin off and put Logic standalone exciter in for larger exciter control. 🌞

  • @philipalmen5116
    @philipalmen511626 күн бұрын

    Best tip I've seen from another KZreadr is mixing in mono via (Gain stock plug-in in Logic Pro X). Works with monitors and headphones and it produces excellent results across devices. When you're done you turn off the mono setting and you've hopefully got a lush mix! Couldn't hear a big difference from manual and auto mastering in this clip. Guess that's a good review! Appreciate the video :)

  • @Hammerman48
    @Hammerman486 ай бұрын

    I didn’t think there was a lot between your master and the Logic version!

  • @retailhutch9108
    @retailhutch91087 ай бұрын

    It would be great to see you run Mastering Assistant against your "already mastered" mix ... instead of turning off all your mastering plugins. IMO those plugins add a lot of character that should be considered part of your pre-master mix.

  • @VanBaylen

    @VanBaylen

    22 күн бұрын

    I agree. I’ve been using the mastering assistant since it came out and have experimented a lot. I’ve come to conclusion that the mastering assistant works best when used in tandem with your usual mastering setup. Once I’ve mastered everything how i normally do, I’ll then throw the mastering assistant on so it could “analyze” and take into consideration the plugins on the track. It. Been working wonders in my mastered tracks and brings them to life like never before. It’s truly a game changer!

  • @teo_sk
    @teo_sk7 ай бұрын

    I've been using eMastered, which is quite good, but what I've been missing is the fine-tuning that's available when you master by hand. This seems like the best of the both worlds!

  • @TheBandGuide

    @TheBandGuide

    7 ай бұрын

    Nice! The ability to tweak it like this is definitely necessary to me

  • @mikeaustin1
    @mikeaustin17 ай бұрын

    Transparent and Clean. Rarely use Punch unless the song isn't real hard or percussive, maybe folksy. Never have tried valve, we'll see about that.

  • @mandroidmusicvideo3577
    @mandroidmusicvideo35777 ай бұрын

    thanx

  • @SouLahtheLegend
    @SouLahtheLegendАй бұрын

    Can we talk about how dope this song is though? 😍

  • @AnthonyPompa
    @AnthonyPompa5 ай бұрын

    I've found use for it by using it after I've done a polished mix/master chain. It usually pushes it that little extra step by bringing out more nuance in the final mix.

  • @djbritishknight5167

    @djbritishknight5167

    4 ай бұрын

    So you bounce twice ??

  • @AnthonyPompa

    @AnthonyPompa

    4 ай бұрын

    @@djbritishknight5167 No, I just get the mix to where I want it, and then slap it on the end of the stereo out chain. After that, it's bounced.

  • @djbritishknight5167

    @djbritishknight5167

    4 ай бұрын

    @@AnthonyPompa What about your master chain ? Add it there

  • @AnthonyPompa

    @AnthonyPompa

    4 ай бұрын

    @@djbritishknight5167 Yes.

  • @djbritishknight5167

    @djbritishknight5167

    4 ай бұрын

    @@AnthonyPompa You got it.

  • @dynasgitarrer6236
    @dynasgitarrer62367 ай бұрын

    So far I liked the clean and transparent modes the best. I agree that you have to be careful with the loudness control or you get pumping effects. I have so far been unlucky with the excite button, it ofthen makes the highs harsh sounding.

  • @FLH3official

    @FLH3official

    6 ай бұрын

    I've never tried other than the "clean" setting because I'm on intels so far but I've the same experience with the loudness and the excite setting. Yes, pumping on loudness+ and arshness with the exciter. I'm also quite confused by the loudness compensator. Sometimes it works sometime it's totaly out of what I could expect.

  • @Karll541
    @Karll5416 ай бұрын

    Is it meant to be the only plugin on the master bus? I would think you'd want some light compression at the least maybe even saturation as well before feeding it to the MA plugin

  • @iNtRoVeRsIoNaLiSm
    @iNtRoVeRsIoNaLiSm5 ай бұрын

    The transparent selection seems to work best for me. valve would be more for rap, punch works good for rock and pop.

  • @h2ommusic932
    @h2ommusic9324 ай бұрын

    My favorite is Transparent

  • @realpool
    @realpool7 ай бұрын

    So with regards to the reference track, you just have to keep turning the mastering the Mastering off and on to A/B your mix?

  • @Bobbytheman98
    @Bobbytheman985 ай бұрын

    Question: Would you export your track as a WAV with the master assistant.

  • @karsonhoward
    @karsonhoward5 ай бұрын

    How do you make a mastered track taking all your tracks and putting it into one track?

  • @NaweedQadirdotcom
    @NaweedQadirdotcom4 ай бұрын

    Thanks again, Colin, for covering the LPs new Mastering Assistant. Since I have Apple Silicon, I get all the options of EQ characters. I like the Transparent one and the punchy one.

  • @electracousticcinema
    @electracousticcinema3 ай бұрын

    When you bounce the song out initially, are you pulling it back in as an audio track to master? Or are you mastering from the original set of tracks?

  • @noah-gdesign9570
    @noah-gdesign95703 ай бұрын

    No comparison that your master sounds so much better.

  • @SamskaraSystem
    @SamskaraSystem3 ай бұрын

    I'm trying to master tunes but I'm also a cosmetologist and you have great hair! Thanks for all the tips :)

  • @TheBandGuide

    @TheBandGuide

    3 ай бұрын

    ayyyy that's high praise!!

  • @JohnmasRecords
    @JohnmasRecords7 ай бұрын

    Somehow that button doesn’t show up. Is it because I have a master fade track at the bottom?

  • @jerrykosak
    @jerrykosak7 ай бұрын

    I have tried the different Character settings and, for me, the Transparent filter seems to sound best.

  • @TheBandGuide

    @TheBandGuide

    7 ай бұрын

    Awesome! That seems like a crowd favorite

  • @AnthonyPompa

    @AnthonyPompa

    5 ай бұрын

    Punch can be good for more dance type tunes or maybe hiphop. Otherwise transparent is usually the way to go.

  • @user-fw9gp8wg7f
    @user-fw9gp8wg7f3 ай бұрын

    Quick question: why are you using the stock EQ and a Tube EQ and the air plugin? Would the stock linear EQ be able to do all of that stuff?

  • @timothygay5978
    @timothygay59785 ай бұрын

    I have an idea about the original being louder than the master when using bypass. I had the same thing happen after, for example, changing an eq setting in the chain before the mastering plugin. I fixed it by reanalyzing the track and it was normalized.

  • @djbritishknight5167
    @djbritishknight51674 ай бұрын

    Hi band do i use this after my personal mix of my track ?

  • @erestube
    @erestube3 ай бұрын

    Try exciting before you manually raise it at 3K? Both raising the eq suggestion and exciting it may have produced some of that shrillness. And what happens if you put the Mastering Assistant at the end of your mastering chain?

  • @MrRamonRueda
    @MrRamonRueda7 ай бұрын

    Great video! How can I get the 4 options of characters? I only get CLEAN.

  • @FuzzekeTrailerMusic

    @FuzzekeTrailerMusic

    4 ай бұрын

    you need apple silicon

  • @LettersofVerax
    @LettersofVerax6 ай бұрын

    Probably a dumb question, but do you think the Mastering Assistant would be useful at the end of a mix, then bounce, THEN use your regular mastering chain in a different file, effectively mastering the track "twice"? Or would that be too much processing? I wonder because the MA might be good to smooth out some issues in the mix but not quite have the character or clarity that one might find in fancier mastering chains.

  • @asocialthing6758
    @asocialthing67586 ай бұрын

    In our songs, as soon as we try to add even the slightest bit of extra Loudness, we start to hear crackling (high-frequency distortion). Any ideas as to why that is happening ? Thanks in advance.

  • @MikeBrayton
    @MikeBrayton6 ай бұрын

    I don't know, it looks like a very detailed EQ curve that isn't dynamic. I mean, if it sounds good, sure. But I'd be less inclined to put that over an entire mix. I would at least want multiple curves depending on the section of the song. Or I would want a smoothing feature so the EQ is not so granular. I feel like these AI assistants are best used as guides for your own mastering session. It's nice to know, though, that it gives a pleasing result.

  • @beyondalldreams
    @beyondalldreams3 ай бұрын

    actually transparent mode makes things better compressed 🙌🏻

  • @reonom8825

    @reonom8825

    3 ай бұрын

    I think transparent sounds the best too.

  • @FunkuncleSecret
    @FunkuncleSecret3 ай бұрын

    Yours sounds better. But yeah, its also louder.

  • @asocialthing6758
    @asocialthing67586 ай бұрын

    Is it possible that the Loudness Compensation only works if you've run the entire song through so that the Mastering Assistant can get an Integrated reading of the LUFS ?

  • @hottamaletallahassee
    @hottamaletallahassee3 ай бұрын

    dumb question, but what exactly does "bypass" do?

  • @jonvincentmusic
    @jonvincentmusic7 ай бұрын

    Loudness Compensation works fine on Apple silicon machines. Looks like they haven’t debugged it properly in the intel version. Tells you everything you need to know about their attitude to Intel Mac’s unfortunately.

  • @robin_fiske
    @robin_fiskeАй бұрын

    Is there any way we can make LUFS around -6.5 ~ -7.0 using Mastering Assistant only? Loudness level +1.0 in dynamics knob usually gave me too much noise compared to your another method in a different video clip :(

  • @hypno59
    @hypno595 ай бұрын

    Put the other tracks thru outputs 3-4

  • @budwudd
    @budwudd8 күн бұрын

    Just make sure that you are done and happy with all the tracking before you use this feature. It causes latency that doesn't go away, even if you remove it.

  • @iEngineerAudio
    @iEngineerAudio2 ай бұрын

    Just leave it alone big dawg it sounds just fine how the mastering assistant did it

  • @kylepatterson8445
    @kylepatterson844512 күн бұрын

    I just got around to trying it with an M1 chip. The clean to me sounds way worse than the other options and it sounds far more distorted using the exciter. Just my opinion. It defaults to transparent on mine. I think clean is just for non-M1 chips.

  • @paulflute
    @paulflute4 ай бұрын

    your mix is way better.. i was very excited about this assistant but I'm not massively impressed so far.. when you get silicon I find the transparent setting the best for my music.. the clear often completely distorts things.. but the most annoying thing is just turning the assistant on add a latency into the entire track which i can't get rid of so it's impossible to add any extra layers in once you have touched that button.. i'm trying to find a way to remove the assistant completely..

  • @andyjamescourt
    @andyjamescourt6 ай бұрын

    Great sounding track although I wasn't really hearing much bottom end on your masters ? great song all the same. if you compare the low end on that track to the low end on the track you play on your outro you'll know what i mean. Were all your mastering decisions made using your monitors, headphones or both ? How do you know if your tweaks are correct unless you have flattened headphones or something like sound Id from sonar works ? Personally i feel most mixing and mastering is largely just guess work without having a monitoring system that doesn't lie to you. I use sonar works in a very well treated room with very expensive speakers and still cant trust what i hear. i have just purchased Slate VSX headphones and i hope to get closer to being able to pull a great mix without the dreaded trips to the car. I also use ozone 11 with random results. like you, I wish i could access the other characters in logic but i'm stuck with CLEAN cause i'm also on intel. shame they couldn't accomodate us with the other character presets. Appreciate your video.

  • @glennwlove
    @glennwlove7 ай бұрын

    I don’t like the excite button at all, it just adds too many artefacts to the sound. Other than that this mastering assistant is a great tool.

  • @Fiveash-Art
    @Fiveash-Art5 ай бұрын

    Why does it always boost around 50 so extreme. I've been fooling with this and over and over even if I boost those frequencies with the bass, kick or something it still always boosts in that area.

  • @alanbit123
    @alanbit123Ай бұрын

    1. Why are you bypassing all the plug-ins? 2. By "Track" do you mean a Project Alternative? In other words, are you mastering a song rather than an individual track within a song?

  • @neilanderson9151
    @neilanderson91514 ай бұрын

    I did an amazing provisional master with this tool recently. That said, not a fan of excite button.

  • @mn23122
    @mn231227 ай бұрын

    This is crazy how far ai has come

  • @TheBandGuide

    @TheBandGuide

    7 ай бұрын

    Right?

  • @alanbit123
    @alanbit123Ай бұрын

    You say that you need a good mix to wind up with a good master, but then you turned off all your mix effects. Shouldn't you leave them on and then master?

  • @TheBandGuide

    @TheBandGuide

    Ай бұрын

    Hey Alan- this is a dedicating mastering session. I've already fully mixed the song in a separate session then exported it out and imported it into this session to master it. I'm comparing the Mastering Assistant to my own mastering processing. I explain this whole setup in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZquozJNqcsTShLg.html

  • @MikeDoria
    @MikeDoria7 ай бұрын

    I use an actual producer and my music sounds great lol

  • @TheBandGuide

    @TheBandGuide

    7 ай бұрын

    lol never a bad idea if you can afford it!

  • @boyd4024
    @boyd402423 күн бұрын

    How can you give an honest opinion without the proper tools to do the job?

  • @genereznick
    @genereznick5 ай бұрын

    Yours is more harsh.. to me

  • @cvrart
    @cvrart4 ай бұрын

    Uh oh... 404 likes. Need to fix that.

  • @michellkanhai7957
    @michellkanhai79574 ай бұрын

    Very poor comment , you need to learn Mastering little more

  • @believe-in-righteousness
    @believe-in-righteousness5 ай бұрын

    You talk too fast. Slow down. Explain things more in detail.

  • @glitchmatrix666
    @glitchmatrix6663 ай бұрын

    Im here to try to find out where in the mastering chain it should go Haven’t seen any answers guess I’ll just have to play around with it

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