How to Accomplish Far More While Working Less (ft. Cal Newport)

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What if there was a way to accomplish meaningful work-without the associated relationship breakdowns or stress? What if “making an impact” didn’t require massive amounts of energy or sacrifice? What if you could get more done by doing less?
In this episode, I talk to Cal Newport about how knowledge work has got it all wrong. We discuss the subtle dangers of remote/digital work and the key to avoiding burnout, all while still being able to grind on the things you love.
If you’re a stressed out, overworked remote worker, this one is for you.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:36 Introducing “slow productivity”
00:06:38 Ways to combat pseudo-productivity
00:13:14 Slow productivity vs procrastination
00:18:17 Do fewer things, at once
00:22:10 The dangers of digital work
00:30:49 Is remote/hybrid work a good thing?
00:38:01 Cal’s tip to avoid burnout
00:41:06 A better way to work
00:45:21 Working at a “natural pace”
00:54:20 Obsess over quality
00:56:52 Does Cal’s advice work for everyone?
01:01:20 Cal’s advice for young people
01:03:38 Cal’s and Mark’s thoughts on Gen Z
01:07:15 Self-destructiveness across generations
01:10:30 How Cal’s books fit together
Cal Newport is a professor of computer science at Georgetown University, but he’s best known for his New York Times bestselling books about the intersection of technology, productivity, and work culture. His books have sold millions of copies and been translated into over forty languages. His newest one is called “Slow Productivity: Accomplishment Without Burnout.”
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  • @rascality9714
    @rascality97142 ай бұрын

    This pod has made me realize I want more episodes with people where Mark disagrees with the guest at least on some level. Great episode. Mark throwing these great questions and Cal giving these well thought out responses was great listening!

  • @Turtlpwr

    @Turtlpwr

    2 ай бұрын

    I second this

  • @JenniferThimell

    @JenniferThimell

    2 ай бұрын

    I third and fourth it!@@Turtlpwr

  • @phillystevesteak6982

    @phillystevesteak6982

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@JenniferThimellI'm a dinkledorf!

  • @areaofapplauses2258

    @areaofapplauses2258

    2 ай бұрын

    He should invite Jordan Peterson😆

  • @kritikayadav2522

    @kritikayadav2522

    2 ай бұрын

    😅

  • @mexmax1657
    @mexmax16572 ай бұрын

    I can't agree on the remote/hybrid thing. I started a new job last year, 100% remote and part time. Was the best decision I made. So much time and money saved and I don't miss anything. It's the opposite: I don't have to dress up perfectly, I don't have to prepare foos, I don't have to waste money and time for transportation, I don't have fucking 200 decibel of all other people in the office around me. It's much more relaxed and I finally have a life again, instead of 8 hours working + 1-2 hours preparing + 2 hours driving.

  • @inakolarova

    @inakolarova

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I fully agree with you! What they said about remote work totally spoiled otherwise super insightful video!

  • @singlesniper6820

    @singlesniper6820

    2 ай бұрын

    I’m hybrid thank god. Before I would spend a literal 40 hour workweek worth of time per month just driving to work. Now I work from home every other week. I feel like ive got more of my life back and I’m more productive at home anyway. Corporations need to get off their power trip and make WFH more common if the business model makes since for it. Tremendous quality of life improvement

  • @RC-cy7pd

    @RC-cy7pd

    2 ай бұрын

    100%. Being physically colocated invites constant interruption.

  • @saranghae2808

    @saranghae2808

    2 ай бұрын

    💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 and I don't have to pretend to enjoy being around people who are pretending to like me. If we are going to pretend to like one another, we can do it virtually! I work in a big law firm full of obnoxious people and I'm so done with the toxicity!

  • @zeidalsharif5709

    @zeidalsharif5709

    2 ай бұрын

    After a 20+ year career, I recently quick my full time job, and decided to pursue remote / flexible work instead. The 9-5 Corporate life started to take a big toll on my mental and physical well-being, and I had to take some serious action. Navigating new (unfamiliar) territory at the moment - but no regrets so far!

  • @NonnyStrikes
    @NonnyStrikes2 ай бұрын

    I STOPPED caring about money. I use to day to day. Not week to week. I STOPPED caring about what family around me "wants" from me. What they "expect" out of me. I STOPPED caring in general about how the world views me. I became a DJ last year. It is the best job ever. Not only have I learned about sound engineering, but I have learned so much about music and how it impacts peoples lives. I can vibe with that, BIG TIME. I've been a musician since I was groovin' as a little kid. I didn't know it then, but I align with it more than ever now. Many failures in music, bandmates, but it all came with gains as well. I feel I'm actually an "adult" at the age of 37. One reason. I make decisions for MYSELF now. Mind-blowing stuff.

  • @Music6710

    @Music6710

    2 ай бұрын

    Been wrestling with this kind of stuff since I graduate college. Do I stick to a safe career that everyone thinks is a good idea or roll the dice and do what I want? I chose the safe route, couldn’t stand the work, so I rolled the dice. I’ve been less stressed and felt more fulfilled ever since. It’s a great feeling when you finally stop caring about what people think you should do.

  • @JTMGJTMG

    @JTMGJTMG

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Music6710 Dont act in black or white. You can keep your safe job and experiment with ideas and projects and see if they work or it were just ideas that are not worth going for.

  • @Planck944

    @Planck944

    2 ай бұрын

    Good for you man❤

  • @linanna87

    @linanna87

    Ай бұрын

    Very happy for you! I am glad you knew what you wanted to do! Congratulations!

  • @compedium

    @compedium

    Ай бұрын

    This comment isn't even slightly related to the topics discussed in the video

  • @MexicanAndaJew
    @MexicanAndaJew2 ай бұрын

    Cal's book "so good they cant ignore you" was the first impactful book that ive ever read

  • @damonjenkin3667

    @damonjenkin3667

    2 ай бұрын

    The “furst” is always the best

  • @MexicanAndaJew

    @MexicanAndaJew

    2 ай бұрын

    @@damonjenkin3667 "If you ain't first, you're last!" -Ricky Bobby

  • @TheNuclearBolton

    @TheNuclearBolton

    2 ай бұрын

    Unless you’re first to be last place, then you’re in first place. - chuck norris

  • @MexicanAndaJew

    @MexicanAndaJew

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheNuclearBolton "I like your style" -Owen Wilson

  • @harrisbuild

    @harrisbuild

    2 ай бұрын

    Deep Work was mine! Read so good they can't ignore you much later and it was just as impactful!

  • @ThiagoRicieri
    @ThiagoRicieri2 ай бұрын

    I think Mark should bring Dr K from HealthyGamerGG to this podcast. A conversation between these two would be mind blowing

  • @sarahfisher5719

    @sarahfisher5719

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, those two would really compliment each other. Mark’s philosophy and Dr. K’s psychology would be a lightning combination.

  • @scuffedchris

    @scuffedchris

    2 ай бұрын

    that would be so interesting

  • @gfusani

    @gfusani

    2 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah!! Would be awesome

  • @mattbaron14

    @mattbaron14

    2 ай бұрын

    I second this

  • @affiliatejourney4562

    @affiliatejourney4562

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely agreed

  • @catloverKD
    @catloverKD2 ай бұрын

    I finally understand why I HATE getting interrupted in the middle of one task at work, to go run the register, or do something else my manager suddenly wants. It's not entirely because I'm autistic and hate abrupt change, it's because I can never stay in the "zone," and my brain wasn't meant to work that way! Which is even more proof I'd be great at a different position there, if it becomes available.

  • @JeanKlaud93

    @JeanKlaud93

    2 ай бұрын

    Wow. It's sad how we have to say we're "autistic" if we can't easily switch between tasks. Even tho as humans we just naturally are not great at switching tasks. The ultra hassle culture of being on a meeting, answering emails, and answering slack messages may seem like multi tasking and productivity but it's not. It's a lack of focus.

  • @mrjgilbert

    @mrjgilbert

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JeanKlaud93100% agree! The very nature of my work is to never let you focus on a task. Email, Teams Chat, Teams Call, phone call, person stops by to chat, other person stops by to chat. When I have projects I often end up doing them in the evenings because I can go more than 20min without focus being derailed. It’s an awful way to ‘work’ and spend the best hours of every day.

  • @tvanbroekhoven
    @tvanbroekhoven2 ай бұрын

    That Shopify ad was a pretty brutal context switch.

  • @jamessullenriot
    @jamessullenriot2 ай бұрын

    Actually, for me, the most stressful thing about work (at least in corporate world) is that raises, promotions, etc have very little to do with output and merit, and more to do with politics and how many social causes you give emoji claps to on meets and slack.

  • @ArtJourneyUK
    @ArtJourneyUK2 ай бұрын

    Cal Newport and Mark Manson... Two of my favourite people! ❤

  • @PrincipeFarlos

    @PrincipeFarlos

    2 ай бұрын

    Facts

  • @xavierrodestami40

    @xavierrodestami40

    2 ай бұрын

    These two guys alone have broken into pieces all the shitty self-helped I have consumed for 4 years.. Glad you said this :D

  • @Isabignon

    @Isabignon

    2 ай бұрын

    Same here!

  • @lelemsays
    @lelemsays2 ай бұрын

    Everything they're explaining is the reason why I thought I didn't do my best effort ALL the time last year and when behavioral feedback came this year I had the best evaluation I've had in my life

  • @hermann5347
    @hermann53472 ай бұрын

    I really wonder how any of them would actually do in a real job. No offence to their achievements, but listening to "productivity Experts" often reminds me of academics. Yes, it is all good and well in theory, but the trick is the practical implementation. I rarely find anything really new in these podcasts, but the real challenge is to do it.

  • @barking_mad6649

    @barking_mad6649

    Ай бұрын

    They don't work in the 'real world' , that's the problem. I like Cal but he's got the ability to say no to stuff, he can even decide when he teaches his lectures in the academic year. Most academics/office/knowledge workers can't do that, they're at the beck and call of multiple people 5 days a week. That's where the distractions are.

  • @hermann5347
    @hermann53472 ай бұрын

    The variability of natural work pace is so true. I often feel guilty for not working at full intensity all time, but I found I just can´t do it. I sometimes have days with high motivation, where I work 10 hours and more with good focus and get a lot done. But almost always the next day or a few days later I feel absolutely "done" mentally and it´s barely even worth going to the office. And in a way I always felt like this was "right". But I am still expected to show up at work and keep working. And worse: If you have too much to do, how can you justify this to yourself and to your boss? I mean, it´s a tough time, so why don´t you work like that for 50 hours a week? This is also where a lot of the overly optimistic deadlines are coming from. How long do you need for that report? Well, maybe 3 hours of really focused work. And for this task? Well maybe 2 hours, and so on. Then you summarize in your head all the times and calculate how much time you need. But the reality is: You have a limited capacity for focused work. And this capacity varies. And on top of it you often won´t get that time anyway, because meetings and urgent tasks interrupting you all day. And of course those tasks will sap you energy and further reduce any focused work you could have done. And suddenly the week went by and you wonder what you actually did. And the answer is: I survived. But I barely moved any of the projects forward.

  • @hermann5347
    @hermann53472 ай бұрын

    That slow productivity thing sounds good in theory, but I don´t see it happening in most businesses. If I tell my management a realistic timeline for a project, they will just half that and put massive pressure on it to "make it happen". That´s not even to mention the constantly moving timelines and changing priorities ("be flexible"). On top of that I usually only can work properly before or after normal working time. In between you are bombarded with urgent requests out of nowhere. In short: This whole thing only works when the company structure and management supports it. In many cases that also means more personnel. Because if I´m supposed to focus on project work, you can´t also make me responsible for supporting a running production line. That´s a two peoples job if you want to do it properly. And that´s where it often fails.

  • @SoloRenegade

    @SoloRenegade

    2 ай бұрын

    then just let the timeline slip if it's truly not realistic.

  • @hermann5347

    @hermann5347

    Ай бұрын

    @@SoloRenegade Well, that is pretty much what I do. Of course you need to be reasonable and communicate it well. But generally I noticed that you must learn to fail at some tasks. Otherwise you will get additional work until you do. It´s an important skill to understand where you can fail and how to communicate it. Something I am still working on, but I really see this as critical.

  • @2tap53
    @2tap532 ай бұрын

    My two favorite author in one room.. I'm so delighted !!! Cal has been so influencal for me, starting with how to be a straight a student, that litteraly changed everything for me to how to be so good or digital minimalism....

  • @sarahtaavetti
    @sarahtaavetti2 ай бұрын

    As a self-employed graphic designer I can totally relate. With „labor“ work you see how the basement has been cleaned or the wood been stacked, with creative work you sometimes just think and do research for hours but have „nothing“ to show for it. Also having no metrics for what is considered „a lot“ and „good“ work means you could ALWAYS do more abnd always be better, no matter how much you actually do or how well you do it. That can really grate you down… because you can get stuck in that „it‘s never enough“ loop….

  • @MR-pg6ru
    @MR-pg6ru2 ай бұрын

    Listening to this post burnout as a solo entrepreneur workaholic child of another entrepreneur workaholic and feeling even more validated. If only I heard this two years ago. But it’s been part of my journey to go through the trenches and learn the hard way about burnout and stopping persecuting myself for not doing enough. In the evenings I try and write down all the things I got done and it’s loads and loads of those 5 minutes that add up. Shifting gears constantly, prioritizing and reprioritizing. I am practicing to do the latter more and be flexible. I look forward to the day when I can hire more help.

  • @elwynll
    @elwynll2 ай бұрын

    Great video great timing. I just quit my corporate job without any set plan. Will be travelling for a bit now and just happy to hear feel free to feel it out. Tomorrow is my last day, let's gooo

  • @CundaliniWantsHisHandBack

    @CundaliniWantsHisHandBack

    2 ай бұрын

    Congratulations. You escaped the Soul-Sucking Matrix. 💯

  • @hugoantunesartwithblender
    @hugoantunesartwithblender2 ай бұрын

    Great video. btw the burnout tip 38:51, i was doing exactly the same. The boss was allways sending more and more work , so i started a shared excel with all the tasks he was gaving me and i shared it with him. With that work was reduced or some tasks were post-proned. Even them due to too much disrespect i walked out. But yes, it works, since its normal people forgetting what we already have in hand

  • @alexanderpopov9801
    @alexanderpopov98012 ай бұрын

    Fantastic episode, Cal Newport is amazing. This podcast is very consistant in providing a lot of value!

  • @aman-ov8fb
    @aman-ov8fb2 ай бұрын

    two of my favorite people together !

  • @michelle_cen
    @michelle_cen2 ай бұрын

    Been a Cal fan since 2015. Love this!! ❤

  • @tychepi6576
    @tychepi65762 ай бұрын

    Great questions Mark. Looking forward to reading the Cal's book!

  • @jonathanbennett8065
    @jonathanbennett80652 ай бұрын

    I learned so much. Thank you to both Mark and Cal!!!

  • @jamieallen8728
    @jamieallen87282 ай бұрын

    Awesome - was exactly the right day to see this. Thank you gentlemen!

  • @catalinagalan
    @catalinagalan2 ай бұрын

    I wanted to comment on the whole “quiet quitting “ and giving the least amount of effort to work thing. I think a big part of it is the remuneration vs cost of living vs effort. It’s not proportional any more. Companies fire people in massive layoffs any day of the week nowadays, without any real reason. Corporate loyalty is disappearing. I think that’s the root of that. People’s passion and efforts are not being rewarded the way they used to, so I guess some people go “fuck it!”, you know? I heard someone say “it’s now considered revolutionary to actually do what is expected of you”, meaning, leaving work at work and not sacrificing personal time and sanity for someone else’s company. Just my thoughts on the subject.

  • @stevenirby5576
    @stevenirby55762 ай бұрын

    Super great podcast. A lot of gold in this one.

  • @stephentropy
    @stephentropy2 ай бұрын

    I love this video format; plz keep making videos like this one

  • @saralopez7189
    @saralopez71892 ай бұрын

    I love this episode! Cal's books have helped me immensely

  • @srourfamily

    @srourfamily

    2 ай бұрын

    invest in the stock market and of course read his new book it is a great book read and mark it

  • @turq_13
    @turq_132 ай бұрын

    Needed this. My issue is wanting to fix everything even though we don’t have near enough resources. Even though I might help 10 people, there’s 20 others mad that I didn’t get to them.

  • @zeidalsharif5709
    @zeidalsharif57092 ай бұрын

    Thanks Mark & Cal for a great podcast! Discipline and focus, can certainly take us a long way in terms of productivity and efficiency. Too much structure, and rules on the other hand, can become crippling, and true creativity killers.

  • @danielj_music
    @danielj_music2 ай бұрын

    It seems to me that there's an underlying assumption here, which is that the people you work for and with are rational people with whom you can reason logically and who actually also want to work and produce high quality outcome.

  • @phillystevesteak6982

    @phillystevesteak6982

    2 ай бұрын

    Of course. So let's start with us being rational first: that means bouncing around until we find a workplace that may support these methodologies. Commence: any number of excuses why that can't be done.

  • @Marloez82
    @Marloez822 ай бұрын

    THIS makes so much sense ❤ Thank you! Ordered the book!

  • @TheAgoBass
    @TheAgoBass2 ай бұрын

    Hi Mark (and Team), the interview is amazing in itself. As we can see by view counts on other channels with a lot less famous presenters, KZread videos with long conversations don't need to be edited with 500 jump cuts to hide 500 half-seconds of silence, neither do they need tricks such as the constant cropping, zooming, or even copyright free videos to illustrate the point the guest is making. A conversation as interesting as this is even hard to follow for someone that is used to follow such things, even for 3/4 hour long interviews, because of all the unnecessary pollution. A lot of us out here are not children. Having said this, I also encourage you to keep up the good work.

  • @WestonPreisingGuitar
    @WestonPreisingGuitar2 ай бұрын

    Hey Mark, really like what you're doing with this channel. The content and production are top notch. Nice work!

  • @JohnPatrickWeiss
    @JohnPatrickWeiss2 ай бұрын

    I’ve got all Cal’s books. Just read Slow Productivity. Wish I had professors like him when I was in grad school!

  • @barking_mad6649

    @barking_mad6649

    Ай бұрын

    Ones who could tell the students when he'd teach them and not have it decided for him like 99% of academics?

  • @evanhiggins7298
    @evanhiggins72982 ай бұрын

    Just bought the audio book thanks! Also, consider occasionally going back to throne at the end. Such an awesome chorus!!

  • @KasturiKS
    @KasturiKS2 ай бұрын

    Needed this so much. From India. ❤

  • @danielmagnus5239
    @danielmagnus52392 ай бұрын

    Most informative! Thanks!

  • @shreyasnshkumar3570
    @shreyasnshkumar35702 ай бұрын

    This is great this amazing two people i greatly admire coming together.

  • @beatriceroosmark9796
    @beatriceroosmark97962 ай бұрын

    Thrilled for this!

  • @Naratifan
    @Naratifan2 ай бұрын

    very good episode thank you !!!

  • @yewknight
    @yewknight2 ай бұрын

    I am a software engineer and I am running into a strange problem with productivity metrics. When I write good code, my coworkers copy and paste it. They get “credit” for that work in the metrics, but I get nothing. On paper, I look like I produce less code than my coworkers because i solve problems in fewer lines of code and enable their productivity by writing code that is easy to reuse. But management doesn’t understand what I do so they think my coworkers are super productive, but they just copy and paste my code and change a few little details.

  • @kevingruhler

    @kevingruhler

    2 ай бұрын

    You should think about releasing your code as a library, then you can say to your boss. Hey everyone is productive when using my library :)

  • @caramela4830

    @caramela4830

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, create a doc where you add in your code and share it with your boss. Have a notification sent to you each time they access the folder and track activity on it. Then, show the activity of how many people access your provided code to your boss. That will showcase who the creator is. The other solution is tell your coworkers your still working on it and don't have anything to share...lol. But, this one is being petty so don't take that advice. 😂

  • @nelly99100
    @nelly991002 ай бұрын

    Working at a natural pace reminds me of Oliver Burkeman’s The Three or Four Hour Rule. Become mentally pliant and get more done over time. Really enjoyed this video. Thanks Mark and Cal 🎉.

  • @slaer
    @slaer2 ай бұрын

    Two legends together

  • @davidjamison6509
    @davidjamison65092 ай бұрын

    Great talk Cal. Loved you in Ozark btw.

  • @J0aF
    @J0aF2 ай бұрын

    I’d love to hear any thoughts on their discussion regarding taking breaks from work and “laying on your back for 5 days”. I don’t disagree per say but it doesn’t seem feasible for the large majority and I was really hoping they’d discuss this more. Like for creatives that aren’t employees I get it. But for any creative employee or even for business people that require work to happen more day to day, how is this even possible. Things need to happen for money to be made. I hate the system but that’s how it is 😢

  • @colonelradec5956
    @colonelradec59562 ай бұрын

    Indeed. I loved this talk. You guys think up good stuffs.

  • @briskettaco
    @briskettaco2 ай бұрын

    15 minutes in and I’m wondering if Cal has ever had a job or even interacted with a person outside of academia and writing.

  • @briskettaco

    @briskettaco

    2 ай бұрын

    1:03:46 Boom! Nope.

  • @neilcreation
    @neilcreation2 ай бұрын

    loved this one with 2 of my favorite authors

  • @britneeg
    @britneeg2 ай бұрын

    When your faves link up!!!!

  • @bsmirnov
    @bsmirnov2 ай бұрын

    Informative! Thanks.

  • @skygaz3r
    @skygaz3r2 ай бұрын

    Great topic!

  • @xMrJanuaryx
    @xMrJanuaryx2 ай бұрын

    His explanation of agile development and 'scrum' was amusing. The concepts of Scrum and Agile DevOps seem to serve more as jargon for managers than as practical methodologies for development teams. Moreover, agile development promotes the idea that every developer should be versatile in all areas of the project. It's not merely encouraged; it's a fundamental assumption. Which seems detached from the point he was trying to make.

  • @andreathompson7896

    @andreathompson7896

    2 ай бұрын

    I used to work as a software developer for a company that decided to move to agile. However we were all specialists in a particular area (I was UI) on a project that had UI, server level and kernel level code. The session where we predicted timescales ( although had to use generic cards and not actually real time) caused so many arguments. I pointed out that if I picked up a task for a kernel level change, in C then it would take me 10x as long to do as a managed C# UI developer having to learn the delicacies of kernel level code and refresh my C code, which I hadn't used in anger for 10+ years at that point. Likewise they all really underestimated how long UI work took because to the server programmers UI work was considered easy. It may not have multiple threads and memory management, but it still took time to implement and restructure existing code and make it work in a natural way for users. So yeah, totally agree with your point. Agile doesn't take into account specialisms.

  • @ameliamysiara2902
    @ameliamysiara29022 ай бұрын

    Super interesting convo

  • @marinakonstantopoulou163
    @marinakonstantopoulou1632 ай бұрын

    From my experience.. The basic reason why satisfaction is high- while exhaustion is also high in surveys, is because in those organisations the upper management when the “grades” of satisfaction are low , they impose the responsibility and the action taking- once more to the employees rather than them trying to find the solution . That forces the employees to rate better, so as not to also have along with their daily work, extra things to do . Not to mention that is a trick used by managers , to puss up good evaluation. A kind of punishment. You rated bad - now I load you with an action plan to change that .

  • @hannah816
    @hannah8162 ай бұрын

    38:50 incredible idea! thank you

  • @ALittleSnowFairySaga
    @ALittleSnowFairySaga2 ай бұрын

    I’m almost in my mid-30’s. Work in healthcare. Not sure what I want to do because a lot of things sound fun, and I like my career.

  • @ankitpathakrocks800
    @ankitpathakrocks8002 ай бұрын

    He listened to my comment 😊😊

  • @lizparenzan4761
    @lizparenzan4761Ай бұрын

    Great podcast! I was able to think about how I approach work, how I can better help my teens prepare for the work force. Mark, you are handsome, and Kinks Lola threw me off at the end😂

  • @tungao2515
    @tungao2515Ай бұрын

    Sounds like a convo between two long time friends. Love it.

  • @systemofadown945
    @systemofadown9452 ай бұрын

    Hi mark, huge fan here, I was wondering if you could do a podcast discussing why there might be alot of bad blood between men and women nowadays. I feel like this is a tricky subject that requires someone of you and your teams caliber to tackle

  • @wileyann9449
    @wileyann94492 ай бұрын

    There’s no flexibility in my job. It’s busy all day all the time, it’s a medical setting and nothing can be done to change the pace. (There’s a land line phone going off , headset phone going off and people walking up to the desk constantly) Been there for less than 3 months. Already fatigued and not having the energy to do anything except work. Everything is done in person 5 days per week and won’t change. So, I gotta figure out a way to have the energy to have a life outside of work, don’t want to get depressed.

  • @barking_mad6649

    @barking_mad6649

    2 ай бұрын

    Get another job if you can. The old way of working is insanity.

  • @oldsilenthill1
    @oldsilenthill12 ай бұрын

    great content!

  • @AlitaMee
    @AlitaMee2 ай бұрын

    Mark and Cal my two mentors

  • @Baldur1005
    @Baldur10052 ай бұрын

    Is this dream? My two favorite content creators together?

  • @Xxxxxrrr6464
    @Xxxxxrrr64642 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @smileyspoon1
    @smileyspoon12 ай бұрын

    12:29 interesting on the data analyst bit since I am one. We do some soft KPI for meeting yearly goals/projects. They also likely look at how much hours I am logged on as well. The other thing that's hard to measure are the adhoc analysis requests and the insane amount of meetings. Those are some broad strokes of how they measure productivity. My personal goal/productivity measure this year is to automate some of my processes and also learn by experimenting different type of analysis at work. The only problem is I have to do that on my own time so takes some time off my free time, but learning at work is the most effective way to get better at your job. It's fun to have your own side projects going on without needing manger input as well.

  • @heroslippy6666
    @heroslippy66662 ай бұрын

    27:20 Yes you want the processor to be pipelined to continuously be running. However, context switching hurts processing speeds too. You gotta move all this memory around, reload the registers, and cache, save what the other process was doing. It is more efficient for the processor to work one task continuously as long as it doesn't need to wait something out of pipeline to happen IO devices.

  • @sandeepsawan2261
    @sandeepsawan22612 ай бұрын

    Love mark ❤

  • @senortia6766
    @senortia67662 ай бұрын

    Very relatable podcast, especially for people who have a remote or hybrid work setting.

  • @inakolarova

    @inakolarova

    2 ай бұрын

    Very unrelatable podcast to me as a person being remote for 8 years and wanting to stay this way my whole life! Much more satisfided and less burntout unless they throw at me 1000 things to do all at once. That's the real reason of burnout, it has nothing to do with remote!

  • @ralframirez700
    @ralframirez7002 ай бұрын

    That Shopify segment was hilarious 😂

  • @anniekate76
    @anniekate762 ай бұрын

    With respect, Cal does not have the sort of job he is talking about so he doesn’t know what is happening in offices these days. Hybrid is going up because of RTO mandates, not because most workers prefer it. And the mandates are happening because bosses want to justify keeping office space, or they mistakenly believe more collaboration automatically happens when everyone is in the same room, or they just don’t trust workers to actually work at home even though, yeah, workers work more at home. Slack is way more effective at preventing meetings than being “grabbed in the hallway.” Fully remote companies are the best because everyone is on an equal footing and they all use digital communication more effectively, and when they all do get together it is for the express purpose of collaboration and they make sure that happens. What happens in offices is being distracted and bothered by coworkers all the time, whenever anyone happens to want to “just drop by” for a few minutes and drag your head out of what you were trying to do. Like that worker whose boss was always pinging him, but not as easy to turn off or ignore as email notifications.

  • @anniekate76

    @anniekate76

    2 ай бұрын

    34:41 you can just type the end time, you know, jeez.

  • @OptimizerMP
    @OptimizerMP2 ай бұрын

    Just discovered the podcasts on the channel :))) Was Dr. Huberman already invited? Thanks for your videos!

  • @thedesignerzerone
    @thedesignerzerone2 ай бұрын

    Love the podcast! The blue light from below is somehow off for me, maybe try a warmer colour. 😊

  • @micha1938
    @micha19382 ай бұрын

    In my company in theory we have all things Cal proposed. I think it is new standard in big corporations. In practise I don’t have time for soft trainings how to schedule my time in remote work. We introduced pull approach so every day we have to pull something to look busy. There is no option to say no. My time approximation are constantly deceased so there is no time for great products. We also have externals that pull as little as possible so we had to push to their limits. I am as overworked and burning same as before those changes. Just different way. I hate flexible work hours because that means for employe I can work any time. Few hours in the morning, rest in evening and be reachable in between. I start going back to office 9-5 just to stop working at 5. Remote work as long you are 1 hour away from office.

  • @evalangley3985
    @evalangley39852 ай бұрын

    18:48 "I am going to do less stuff..." What you need to say to your boss is that you are going to focus on this, for this reason.

  • @lisar.2549
    @lisar.25492 ай бұрын

    Nice philosophical convo. Also, Mark you’re so handsome!

  • @GaniSultanov
    @GaniSultanov2 ай бұрын

    Cal visited each single influential podcaster: Tim Ferris and others. And he’s here!

  • @walterprorok7986
    @walterprorok79862 ай бұрын

    Mark your podcast and books are legendary. Big fan of both. Cal Newport is an amazing author. But I can’t help myself and think he might be related to Jason Bateman. You have to admit there is small resemblance. Thank you both! Keep up the good work.

  • @marcusaurelius6847
    @marcusaurelius68472 ай бұрын

    Yeah I'll challenge my boss to deliver that project in 2 months instead of 1 I'll be updating my resume meanwhile

  • @hannah816
    @hannah8162 ай бұрын

    "we spend our entire lives trying to prove or disprove who we were when we 18" 1:13:16

  • @reidherring145
    @reidherring1452 ай бұрын

    Love the Yoda ending theme 😂

  • @arymanpandey4307
    @arymanpandey4307Ай бұрын

    Half way in Deep work book by him, it's a nice read

  • @Adyx18
    @Adyx182 ай бұрын

    Gimme Cal to whisper from one shoulder and Mark from the other and I will conquer this life!

  • @tdr-xyz
    @tdr-xyz2 ай бұрын

    Re Mark's rant about the 90 mins meeting in a corporate environment: although I agree with it, it is impossible to get in the mood of the meeting and get the best of the 5 minutes that are important without the 80 minutes of rants or whatever goes on before. These people are not machines, they're coming straight from wrestling with outlook and with their managers, they cannot switch instantly to whatever Mark wants them to do.

  • @maximelagace
    @maximelagaceАй бұрын

    "Constant context-switching is the number one mental health affliction of knowledge work." -Cal Newport

  • @RafalAndHisThoughts
    @RafalAndHisThoughts2 ай бұрын

    What can be the case, that pepople don't understand the burnout and work satisfaction the same way. It would be interesting to check definitions.

  • @maxuno8524
    @maxuno85242 ай бұрын

    Lin-Manual Miranda is my favourite! One day when i grow up!

  • @Rickia561fsu
    @Rickia561fsu2 ай бұрын

    I love the idea of transparency of tasks with your boss but there are some poor leaders out there who don’t know how to prioritize tasks themselves, let alone helping someone else prioritize. My last line of managers literally would tell me everything was a priority. Watching me drown in work while they continued to pour tasks over my head. Slowly sinking into my burnout! Let’s just say I’m a fighter and instead of drowning I sunk them to save myself 🤭🫠🤫

  • @dresdenvisage

    @dresdenvisage

    2 ай бұрын

    Nice.

  • @ajilvarghese1367
    @ajilvarghese13672 ай бұрын

    Tomorrow is my exam And I am still watching 😅

  • @TheKrispyfort

    @TheKrispyfort

    2 ай бұрын

    Good luck with your exam. If you can, do the answers you really feel confident about first. It'll help you feel good which will help you with the rest.

  • @barking_mad6649
    @barking_mad66492 ай бұрын

    I find this stuff hilarious. 😂

  • @brillcouncil4584
    @brillcouncil45842 ай бұрын

    I would actually love to hear an interview with Jewel. Wonderful discussion, really enjoyed it.

  • @levmarkelov
    @levmarkelov2 ай бұрын

    To answer Marks question about “gauging your natural pace” i think the answer is spiritual. Acceptance. Accepting that you don’t know, never will know, and can’t know what a “productive” or “lazy” day is for you. Just accept the moment/day for what it is and get on with it. (My thoughts after struggling with the same thing)

  • @austin495
    @austin4952 ай бұрын

    The lack of discussion of "the problem" in the knowledge sector is so true. You're not going to find critiques of this on LinkedIn...At least not often. The age of appearing busy and passionate is in.

  • @ma-moomoo

    @ma-moomoo

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm halfway through the episode but what was "the problem" again?

  • @austin495

    @austin495

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ma-moomoo just the way we approach working hours. The expectation that from 9-5 ya just gotta be on like a switch. Not accommodating to actual workflows and energy levels.

  • @mmadog1981
    @mmadog19812 ай бұрын

    Mark - can you do a video/podcast about the physical symptoms of depression, anxiety and trauma - GI issues, inflammation, joint and muscle pain etc. Nobody talks about it, and everyone tries to treat it with anti-inflammatories etc. Thanks - also, as so many broken families about; abandonment as a kid --> can turn you into mr nice guy, or mr angry as an adult

  • @candaceandfamily2805

    @candaceandfamily2805

    2 ай бұрын

    I removed all bad oils in my diet and most processed foods and the majority of these issues are gone.

  • @mmadog1981

    @mmadog1981

    2 ай бұрын

    @@candaceandfamily2805 I've tried keto, IF, gluten and dairy free, nmn, ice baths, saunas etc - still get a lot of headaches, pain and GI issues. Currently trying a FODMAP diet and treatment for SIBO...what comes first though - the physical problems or the trauma? I've done some trauma work and vagus nerve stuff, I wonder if getting rid of the trauma with psychedelics etc would cur the physical issues

  • @sp123

    @sp123

    2 ай бұрын

    Read about fuel partitioning

  • @mmadog1981

    @mmadog1981

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sp123 thanks - I'm interested in a video about physical symptoms of trauma and depression - everyone thinks it's physical problem in terms of its source, but it's often mental and people dn't address the root course

  • @AnaMarcu
    @AnaMarcu2 ай бұрын

    I am curious what are your thoughts on what Elon Musk said that the work takes only however much time you give it. Implying that perhaps quality of work isn’t necessarily better if you have more time, and that perhaps a shorter time span will make you come up with solutions that you would have perhaps not have taken into consideration before.

  • @robelsum7877
    @robelsum78772 ай бұрын

    Never knew Jason Bateman was an author too!

  • @_bluephoenix_

    @_bluephoenix_

    2 ай бұрын

    😂 ngl I had to double take for this reason!!

  • @techknowgemes7860
    @techknowgemes78602 ай бұрын

    productivity and how things are draining us

  • @asifchoudhuryca
    @asifchoudhuryca2 ай бұрын

    Doing busy work, or pretending busy is the definition of pseudo productivity.

  • @TheKrispyfort

    @TheKrispyfort

    2 ай бұрын

    Functions like genuine productivity but is not true productivity.

  • @FangerZero
    @FangerZero2 ай бұрын

    33:45 - This whole "I can grab you in the hall" is dumb, you do NOT need to setup a meeting to call someone on zoom, you just ping them ask "Are you busy can I call you?" boom done. You don't even have to go and find them. I'm remote work I do this all the time. Best part is I don't have to know where they sit. But I'm a developer so it's probably 2nd nature to me to work remote easier.