I will NEVER get over Azealia Banks telling Grimes that she looks like she smells like a roll of nickels. 10/10 insult

@mysticwater9056

2 ай бұрын

Love her or hate her, Azealia is a wordsmith of insults😂

@mpazinambao2938

2 ай бұрын

lol, what?!😂

@ssh1487

2 ай бұрын

I've never been stateside so don't know what nickels smell like yet I have a strong idea based on what I've had the misfortune to smell of other people and she really looks like she'd smell like that lol - bunch of old coins, yep probably true

@Eli-jw8mx

2 ай бұрын

She is so fucking funny. I love finding her twitter fights. My favorites are Lana and Skai Jackson those exchanges were so fucking funny.

@srose1088

2 ай бұрын

That's why I can't hate Azealia Banks cuz she says stuff like that, and I'm like... she could be right, tho. 🤔

She's 36 btw. This whole time I thought she was 20 or something, bc thats how she acts. Imagine my surprise.

@iain9757

2 ай бұрын

Omg

@skeeter6671

2 ай бұрын

you just shocked me i thought she was in her 20’s too

@srose1088

2 ай бұрын

I knew she couldn't be 20s cuz I've known of her for long enough now that it would be illogical to believe she was still in her 20s. I wonder what she would look like now without the use of botox and filler. She might look younger. She always looked youthful.

@Be12397

Ай бұрын

You’ve got to be kidding!! Wow, she’s incredibly immature acting.

@k2a2l2

Ай бұрын

holy shit

Somewhere there's a universe where Grimes and FKA Twigs linked up and made great art together instead of the hellscape of the real world

@arnoldmogielinski93

2 ай бұрын

That part of the universe broke off into the vortex back in 2020 I feel (large cultural/peers' experience context, not in relation to her antics, just so we're clear lol) 😒

@theaudjob3267

2 ай бұрын

@@arnoldmogielinski93 we really are in the bad place

@missdenisebee

2 ай бұрын

YES omg😭 We’re in the bad timeline fr.

@spaghettikennedy896

2 ай бұрын

@@missdenisebeeHope ya’ll join the good timeline someday 🥺 lol

@crystal.balls612

2 ай бұрын

Grimes, twigs, doja cat and ashnikko is the girl group I made up in my head, I believe they would be amazing😂

as a DJ let me tell you: Grimes's flop at Coachella was literally proof that she cannot DJ, and that she did not prepare her set properly; this mistake would not have happened if she simply made sure beforehand that all her tracks have correct BPM's and that non of them get fucked when she plugs into a console (which she should have checked on the sound check) AND (most importantly) if she actually DJ'ed as most of us do, and not used the 'beat sync' option, which basically makes DJing almost the same as playing songs from a Spotify playlist. The fact that someone without any basic DJ skills performs at Coachella is a bit baffling to me tbh.

@angelacuebasmercado4036

2 ай бұрын

Idk why you find it baffling though, the performers in Coachella have varied between legends and incompetent people like grimes for years now. A lot of the artists at Coachella a joke nowadays

@CaulkMongler

2 ай бұрын

That part. I’m not a DJ by any mean but it seemed like an issue that any DJ that’s been around the block and are familiar with common issue would have solved that issue within a few minutes, not would they have drawn so much attention to a small issue making it glaringly awkward.

@pozol5542

2 ай бұрын

@@angelacuebasmercado4036 maybe it’s because im not American and in my head i compare this music festival to the big ones in my home country, where random people are not performing

@terenarosa4790

2 ай бұрын

Can you explain this beat sync option, where you find it and how to use it?

@dry_critical

2 ай бұрын

Massive technical problems aren’t new with Griems. She has very similar excuses after the big festival in Las Vegas

I wish you had mentioned her insane comments about how "her son is destined to have the same journey and struggles as Paul Atreides from DUNE" 💀💀

@icecream_marchesa9216

2 ай бұрын

that's some reeeally crazy sh*t tbh 🤣

@TylaStark

2 ай бұрын

WHAT?!?!?!?! 💀💀💀💀💀

@alotofsas

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Yeah. That was crazy. And she identifies personally with a Harkonnen(sc). They're the bad guys. In the first Dune movie, they're pretty disgusting, but I guess she just liked the way Sting looked with red hair? Then when she found out he was horrible, she was just like, "Yay! I'm horrible like him!"

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Sorry for any misspellings. I haven't read Dune.

Everything & everyone that Elon Musk touches gets ruined and becomes cringe...

@musiclikeseverybody

2 ай бұрын

Grimes isn't an object, she made the choices she made to be with Elon Musk it's her fault lol

@sebascm7278

2 ай бұрын

😂

@arianafox365

2 ай бұрын

He’s the Cringe Midas

@chandelierprincess

2 ай бұрын

She was already cringe before she met Elon

@elgranespejo

2 ай бұрын

ugh, this is why i hate grimes fans - she has agency and she made the choice to be a nazi, hot damn

Although I think it’s disrespectful to insult people’s intelligence, but grimes definitely does have that impression on me; that being brought up by wealthy family has never made the lady have to truly solve things on her own since she can afford not to live in the real world; socially and financially

@peach986

2 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure she said something one time about only eating one kind of food for months (I think it was lasagna or something) and she started feeling like crap, because duh. And then she went to the doctor and they just told her to eat something other than lasagna lmao

@gabby222themoon

2 ай бұрын

@@peach986lol yeah it was spaghetti but she’s also autistic n that’s a common thing to eat the same foods everyday for long periods of time she’s not stupid bc of that…

@alyssapinon9670

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s intelligence as much as it is street smarts. I was surprised to find out she’s almost 40 with three kids. The way she acts reminds me of my teenage self. I was a sheltered artsy kid so the biggest worries I had (outside of school) were choosing my outfits and working on my creative projects. Living away from home, paying bills, and having a job while in college helped me grow up a bit. Still practice my passions but they’re not the only thing I worry about now.

@peach986

2 ай бұрын

@@gabby222themoon babe I’m autistic too but I know damn well not to eat one kind of food for months on end

@user-mz2ne4yh2t

2 ай бұрын

@@gabby222themoony'all blame on autism for everything 😂😂

Can you imagine what everyday conversation is like between these two. Just insufferable two people thinking they are soooo brilliant

@labrujadeluz

2 ай бұрын

ahahahahha 😂

@affafbaloch

2 ай бұрын

getting exhausted just thinking about it

@sphinky1156

2 ай бұрын

they are pretty brilliant in their own ways. Despite their fortunate upbringing. It's just that the world has become jaded and loves to have a hate bojner for these sorts of things

@floraposteschild4184

2 ай бұрын

@@sphinky1156 "Despite their fortunate upbringing." Oh, what a shame they were reared by millionaires. It dimmed their "brilliance", somehow.

@sphinky1156

2 ай бұрын

@@floraposteschild4184 You could be born into wealth and piss it all away or make nothing out of it. You seem like you could be talking about how you are sooo brilliant on your down time too, only you aren't born from a rich family.

its so hard just liking music without the artist ripening into bad bad bad person 😭 🤧

@evecates2232

2 ай бұрын

I know. I can't listen to Lana del rey anymore. She one of the worst people...not only is she a zionist but she wore that net mask at the peak of covid19.

@miik7064

2 ай бұрын

Try lemon demon

@ragdollrose2687

2 ай бұрын

I've kinda let go of the obsession of consuming art only from people who align with my morals... cause I wouldn't have anything to listen to tbh. Most of the greatest in music history were abusive towards women or just pos at some point. I won't wear their merch and give them my money directly (buying new albums, going to shows,...) if I know they're awful but I'll still listen to the music I like while still being aware that I should take the message with a grain of salt at the very least. On the other hand, I'd be heartbroken if I learn that one of my faves was really problematic

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

​​@@evecates2232she's not a zionist. She has said very clearly that she loves Palestine and hates what Israel is doing to them. She hates genocide. The "net" mask you're referring to had multiple layers of sheer fabric. It was not just net. It was a safe fashion mask specially made to look like netting. It was made by a designer for her to be an "illusion" mask and it was only used for a music video she was in, in which she was riding in a car by herself. She was pro-masking and vaccinating and false rumors like yours are why she bailed on social media. She also got called a Trump supporter even though she can't stand him and put a hex on him.

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

​@@evecates2232my comment got deleted, so I'll try this again. Lana Del Rey is not a zionist. She has said very clearly that she loves Palestine and opposes genocide. The mask you're referring to was a specially designed "illusion mask" that had multiple layers of sheer fabric to make it look like she just had netting on her face, but it was actually a safe fabric mask and she only wore it for filming a music video while she was in a car alone. I hope this helps and doesn't get deleted again. 🤨

I always thought grimes and musk were together for like 6 months but i recently found out they have THREE children together! wtf?

@perryjones7771

2 ай бұрын

HUH😳😳😳😳

@josei1624

2 ай бұрын

They had an on and off relationship acording to her I believe

@srose1088

2 ай бұрын

Same lol I thought she got knocked up after a fling and was co parenting the one son.

@jasminpedrosa5976

2 ай бұрын

Just googled it and the last kid’s name is Techno Mechanicus

@shanel4294

2 ай бұрын

I really wanna see them at dinner

The decline in quality of her work is just surreal

@voidedcitrus3455

2 ай бұрын

ikr man like i cannot BELIEVE that the person who created visions was also responsible for i wanna be software 😭 it’s honestly depressing. i just wish she would retire or something

@mb7626

2 ай бұрын

Honestly I think even her best work occupies this boring valley between pop and more bold or overt creative experimentation. One more notch towards the former and it would have more of a catchy radio quality, one more notch towards the latter and she’d have more of a legit FKA Twigs or Kate Bush quality. But instead she somehow finds like the boringest of all worlds by triangulating something between those. At least that’s how I’ve always felt about her music. I wouldn’t say it’s bad but I’ve never understood the appeal either.

@muffy1556

2 ай бұрын

She made better music when she had less than a year of musical experience than the music she makes now as an industry veteran. Sad.

@voidedcitrus3455

2 ай бұрын

@@muffy1556 it really is man :( i wish we were in the timeline where she continued her activism and made more incredible music. thinking about what couldve been makes me sad

@UltraViolet666

2 ай бұрын

I'd say the quality improved but the soul was *completely* lost

I low-key loved when Azealia came for Grimes 😭

@AN-tw7uj

2 ай бұрын

"You smell like a roll of nickels" lives in my brain rent free.

@thesovgc

2 ай бұрын

@@AN-tw7uj Absolutely!

@Peterrdee

2 ай бұрын

It was actually such classic pop culture they should of collabed first tho

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Glad they didn't because now Azealia need not be connected to someone who has been openly racist.

i remember when, after her and elon’s breakup, she posted a photo of her reading karl marx 💀 she was fooling no one.

@thesealky6445

2 ай бұрын

That was so funny

@bees.857

2 ай бұрын

Then she went on Hasanabi's stream at his house. Lol so petty.

@user-yu4rh6zj9x

2 ай бұрын

I think that was intentional

@ladytofuu

Ай бұрын

Only to then got back together with him (secretly, I might add) and chose to have 2 more children😅

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

She was still trying to grift her progressive fan base by pretending to be for a socialist utopia and for artists. Now we know it was all fake. I foolishly believed in her for longer than I should have. I bought the nice woe is me act.

“She’s not just a facist, but a facist who can’t DJ” took me OUT

Grimes hits hard man, I was obsessed with her music for the duration of 2012-2016, when I was aged 12-16. She was part of my most formative years, and now I can't listen to those songs without feeling quite sad

@sphinky1156

2 ай бұрын

why not continue to support her then? it's crazy how quickly people turn on another person just because they don't fit their agenda

@louweasel7903

2 ай бұрын

@@sphinky1156 Clashing personal/political/ideological beliefs are a perfectly normal reason to want to distance yourself from someone. you're welcome to give her your support in my place ig?

@eugeniamaurajames1907

2 ай бұрын

@@louweasel7903 right there with you, buddy. I wish I still enjoyed her music, regardless of everything in her personal life. But I feel like it’s changed for the worse.

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

I feel so bad for your age group in this situation. My son was your age and really liked and respected Grimes. Then her problematic comments made him pretty depressed for a while. He used to like Elon, too. He still loves space exploration, but he really doesn't appreciate the way the pair of them pretended to be basically kind and for a less hateful world only to do a 180. Just saying this to let you know you're not alone. And I tell my son that the good he related to in them was part of him, even if it wasn't real on their end. He has integrity where they did not. I hope your generation keeps your love of cool music, even if you guys have to look a bit harder to find it from less toxic artists now. Your compassion will help shape the new music going forward. Distancing from Grimes will make room for ethereal singers who aren't corrupt. (Hopefully they'll stay that way fingers 🤞)

@dismemberingcarcass

Ай бұрын

separate the art from artist...you dont need to like her to bump her music

I really want to believe the rumor that the weird ass names are just a means of making the actual name private

@Sol-jj5ov

Ай бұрын

Offcourse they are not real names

@retrotaco11

13 күн бұрын

Honestly, it’s pretty likely, lots of celebrities or those just in the public eye do this, cause why tf would you genuinely name your kid after what looks like a barcode 😭

The interview where we found out her and Elon had secret another kid & her saying they basically lived in a basement & only ate peanut butter was wild to me,

@jessielou9138

2 ай бұрын

What. Is this for real?

@r.h.1988

2 ай бұрын

​@@jessielou9138Yes!! The article is so funny. The interviewer describes how she went to their home, by which time their first born was more than a year old, but there was very obviously a baby crying and she was unsure about whether or not she was just supposed to ignore that. Then Grimes sort of denied it, but then admitted they had a second one by surrogacy. The article is wild!

@jessielou9138

2 ай бұрын

@r.h.1988 lmao I mean, the whole Azalea Banks issue was wild af, but didn't think they could go wilder like that. I'm also the kind of fan that followed her for her music and never dug much into her "personal" life.

@jasminpedrosa5976

2 ай бұрын

It sounds straight up like someone played sims 2 and got overwhelmed with too many toddlers, that it’s real is tragic but I can’t stop laughing either

@shanel4294

2 ай бұрын

Imagine your dad being the richest man in the world and all you can eat is peanut butter

As a former grimes Stan, grimes wouldve hateeeedd whoever this woman is

@melizabeth555

2 ай бұрын

ugh literally, i've been a grimes fan since i was like 9 and her new music is some of the WORST stuff i've genuinely heard

@kittiikamii

2 ай бұрын

@@melizabeth555 I wanna be software made me stop listening to her for like 3 months. I was just so shocked. I’ve started wondering if the woman we grew to love never even existed

@deedfayez

2 ай бұрын

@@kittiikamiiI wanna be software threw me so off-guard that I literally sat there for a few minutes just staring. I used to listen to her music non-stop but now it’s just… crap

@colonialstraits1069

2 ай бұрын

That statement could only come from a current Stan.

@lameasf

2 ай бұрын

@@deedfayez me toooo and I prefer her later stuff, Miss Anthropocene and the Lizzy Wizzy stuff are my absolute favourites, to go from that to I wanna be software gave me whiplash, there's not even that much time between them, it hurts my brain

The "What I Eat in a Day" video from her was definitely my "Oh, she's really lived a sheltered life" moment

Grimes went from being an artistic and quirky girl to an unhinged capitalist techbro princess with insane thoughts esp after she became a mom and got more "traditional". Also her music got bad. I thought she wldve done well on coachella, but nope shes been on an avalanche

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

You're right. It's been a disaster. 😔

@crazycatlady8285

Ай бұрын

How is she traditional? I got the impression shes not even a fan of babies. Elon is the one who loves kids.

@kayhaich

Ай бұрын

She's not even a trad-wife...imagine being a trillionaire and wanting to manipulate a shrew into being a mother of your heirs.

@wiktoriajedrzejewska7287

22 күн бұрын

@@crazycatlady8285Elon doesn't care about kids. He just thinks that his DNA is so unique that he is doing the Earth a favor by ''spreading his genes''.

i stand by my belief that grimes always had a reactionary streak or at least was prone to these ideas and it wasnt her being "tainted" or "brainwashed" by musk. like she grew up rich and white with some kind of superiority complex she was already primed

@quandaredevil

2 ай бұрын

yeah I definitely think the whole activist thing she was doing back in the day was just grifting. she likely knew that appearing as progressive was something she could capitalize off of, so she did

@Winter-Alpha-Omega

2 ай бұрын

Personally, based on what I've read and heard of her life, it sounds like Grimes is very hyperactive and like a child, has fleeting interests. I believe her activism era was very much real to her, because she sounded genuine, she appeared invested. But it seems she also parrots the interests of her circle, whomever that social group may be. Now that she's with Musk, from whom she seems to be codependent, it makes sense to me she'd mirror many of his views. She just seems like someone very unstable, in the sense they'd have a hobbie one day and drop it completely the next month in favour of the new big thing. Or that's just my appreciation.

@voidedcitrus3455

2 ай бұрын

i think personally that her activism was semi legit. like i think she did sorta care about what she was saying but it definitely wasnt iron clad or anything. i think being surrounded by nasty tech bros and elon definitely did change her opinions in a way, but i do believe that she was always a little bit misogynistic and racist but just not a full blown nazi, if that makes sense tldr: i think that grimes only partially believed in what she was advocating for but, it definitely was affected by who she choses to interact with

@leaf111

2 ай бұрын

@@voidedcitrus3455​​⁠ i feel the same, she was a much better activist than most artists and she went above and beyond to be as environmentally friendly as possible. it absolutely seemed genuine and i do believe that she was influenced by elon and his friends, but it's still crazy to me how dramatic the shift was, like she was brainwashed

@MarnieGolde7

2 ай бұрын

Nah. She is the same person as him just in different packaging. No one forced her to start dating this man. She found many things attractive about that man. Probably because she relates to him in many ways. And that’s sad, but what’s even more sad is how performative her “activism” appears upon further review.

When Grimes said she had been "cancelled" after dating Elon Muck, my jaw dropped to the floor in disbelief. So out of touch! I wonder if she still considers him to be "her best friend" tho?

@LeatherScorpio

2 ай бұрын

She's become one of those French women who slept with the Nazis during World War 2.

@margaesperanza

2 ай бұрын

She kept having kids with a man who hates the community that made her relevant

@Brucebod

2 ай бұрын

@@LeatherScorpio Ha ha, I like that, funny. 👍

@elsa7594

2 ай бұрын

@@LeatherScorpio gabrielle chanel core

@leaf111

2 ай бұрын

probably not since he's trying to do anything to not have to pay child support while being the richest man in the world and he was horrible to her during their relationship. look up the post she made on r/relationshipadvice about him

Why do people keep referring to Grimes and Elon as being married? They never got married, just had kids

@itisyerdad

2 ай бұрын

Who’s referring to them being married? The only thing brought up is their custody battle which doesn’t mean they were married.

@StateofKait

2 ай бұрын

@@itisyerdad She said they were married in the video.

I sorta feel Elon sorta taints everything he touches

@perryjones7771

2 ай бұрын

Sorta now you being nice that man is nasty.

@JamesLawner

2 ай бұрын

He's like the anti-Midas.

@margaesperanza

2 ай бұрын

Honestly shout out to his one kid who legally changed their name and wants nothing to do with him.

@cherdanland

2 ай бұрын

These days, it's really more like Elon Musk touches everything he taints. Grimes was/is clearly no exception. Good luck, ÆI=mc², you're gonna need it.

@vinnym5607

2 ай бұрын

I mean, no one wants an electric car except right wing morons.

Im not sure what happened at Cochella, but from what I know, modern CDJ programs adjust the speed of songs for you, but old school DJs can do it by ear. This is a major crux in the DJ community, many people believe if you can't beat match by ear, then you're relying too much on tech. If she was relying on the sync button, then software is doing this by numbers. If your numbers are wrong and you can't adjust the tempo by ear then you'd have to adjust the tempo using numbers like how the software does. If the bmp was doubled, I guess you'd need to make extra steps for you to achieve this matching.

@SingKahKah

2 ай бұрын

Programs like rekordbox, traktor, etc. analyze the bpm of tracks within a certain bpm range that you can set, so it can either show up as 160 bpm or 80 bpm (which is technically the same). My guess is whoever prepared her tracks did it in batches and didn't double check, and then she obviously doesn't know how to beat match on the fly so the doubled and mismatched bpms confused her

@srose1088

2 ай бұрын

@@SingKahKah Ok, that's the part I'm not really familiar with. I have friends who DJ and just observed them on the decks. It seems like the song on que gets adjusted manually using headphones and visual markers I dont fully understand. It didn't look like she had headphones, and that doesn't seem smart.

@SingKahKah

2 ай бұрын

@@srose1088 yeah thats pretty much it, you cue the track as well as you can and the manual adjusting slows down the deck (just like putting friction on a vinyl record makes it spin slower) so you can further line it up on the fly. Headphones are helpful but not necessary tbh, lots of footwork guys dont use headphones

@srose1088

2 ай бұрын

@@SingKahKah is footwork the Chicago dance that's similar to Detroit jit?

@shivvWhore

Ай бұрын

Yup, same with playing in a band that uses playback for background sounds and riffs, you need to match these up to a metronome, most musicians will be able to do this if they actually put effort to their instruments, you can spot a lazy band member easy if they can't do this.

1000% percent she should know how to handle it in real time if she were even a mildly proficient dj. Unless she’s djing straight jazz or foxtrots everything should be divisible by even numbers since it’s going to be in 4/4 measures or maybe 6/8 measures if she plays a song with that Gary Glitter beat or the Personal Jesus beat. Frankly, she should at least be able to dj without having to have everything preloaded like its homework assignment. You should be able to dj with a working mixer and sound without even the use of a WAV visualization. Also, having someone doing all your prep work for you sounds like a terrible idea for any club let alone Coachella.

@Winter-Alpha-Omega

2 ай бұрын

I didn't understand anything you wrote and now I'd like you to give me DJ classes, please.

@morningfaroe612

2 ай бұрын

and she definietly isn’t a professional dj, she commented on her tiktok that she’d never played a dj set that big before. so you think she’d actually make sure she was prepared for mishaps lol. that being said, her screaming into the mic whenever she was frustrated was funny af to me. it was a train wreck, but an entertaining one for me

@jondroll

Ай бұрын

@@Winter-Alpha-Omega it’s actually not too hard. If you can dance on beat then you can keep time. Meaning, you can learn to dj no problem.

The photo at 4:25 is my only reference point for who she is so nice to be educated on who Grimes actually is

the most salient summary i've seen of what it's like to be a fan of Grimes' whilst being aligned with her pre-Elon socialist political ideologies and not being a racist scumbag is a tweet that said "She made art angels... she maid art angels: i repeat to myself whilst rocking backwards and forwards on the floor"

@kaitlin9288

2 ай бұрын

Why is this me tho omg 😭 😭 😭

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Yeah. It's really sad. It kind of devastated me. I didn't get on social media for about two months when she said the most openly racist stuff and wouldn't apologize. And she actually used to talk to me every once in a while on Twitter on her alt accounts. I was in her art Discord and we shared a bunch of art there and it was kind of beautiful. I painted a portrait of her and she liked it. I once told her to be brave leading up to her custody hearing and she thanked me, but asked that I not mention it on Twitter because of the possibility of eyes watching her. I feel weird even talking about it now, but I guess I can since I have abandoned all hope for her.

I'm watching this video with almost zero context regarding Grimes and had to pause after hearing "We'll get to the N@zi stuff"

@gracecarpinter8623

2 ай бұрын

And this video didn't even cover the eugenics fangirling. When you're running around supporting eugenics (which is what Grimes has been doing), that is genuine N@zi shit. That alone would be enough for me to chuck her in the bin (because I'm autistic and so many autistic people were killed by the aforementioned German fascists, eff Grimes for supporting that ideology), but she really is running around supporting some truly repugnant people.

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

And yeah. There's been even more than that. Grimes and Elon (Elon more than her, but she does her share) follow, comment on, like, and retweet, so many neo-nazi accounts. And like the video said, she said she "loved white culture," which what is that even supposed to mean? And in comments that followed she said the thing about being a human supremacist, and later when someone said something about "white power" she said she was okay with it because "white achievements have been underrated" or "underappreciated" or something like that. Then a bunch of her own friends and followers were asking her to apologize and delete the tweets and she said something like "I'll never apologize for loving the human race," or loving European achievements or some such. And she said the thing about how "it's not like all races haven't had slaves," as though that minimized what white people did.

@onii747

Ай бұрын

And she never did get to it.

I saw Grimes at Coachella in 2013. I remember being SO STOKED to see her as I was a big fan. It’s really crazy how far she’s fallen since then, I would have never guessed lol

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Agreed. It's been a shock to the system. I don't know if she can redeem herself. She would have to get so humble so fast and apologize for a lot of racist crud, but would people even believe her? I don't think I could. 😢

She struck me as a drama-lover with her interviews. Honestly I see parallels to her mannerisms and Kanye West’s.

@rhythmandblues_alibi

2 ай бұрын

They're both massively egotistical, bordering on narcissism.

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

You're not wrong. I see it.

Eh, tbh, I really don't like juxtaposing being talent with being rich, awful, and neurodiverse as you put it - neurodiverse people aren't inherently assholes nor untalented, so I wouldve edited that part. Same with the ending - for a lot of minorities, the fascism and her use of her cultural capital to apologize for a man who supports nazis is kind of a bigger deal

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Agreed. I'm neurodivergent and I'm not racist beyond what I consider to be the inescapable racist privilege of being born with light skin. In other words, a cop might treat me better than a person with another skin tone, even though I have a somewhat mixed background. I don't want special treatment, but I benefit from that racism whether I like it or not. Being neurodivergent would never cause me to turn into a racist or be so impressionable that I could. I guess when we're kids there's a window of time when we're vulnerable to influence, but she should be way past that.

@elgranespejo

Ай бұрын

@@TamaraKane thanks thought I was the only one here who found that distasteful. Tbh, I don’t necessarily see what she did as attributing her racism to being neurodivergent, but I found it bad that Kayla lumped being neurodivergent in with her bad qualities and not with the good ones.

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

@@elgranespejo agreed.

I loveeeee Grimes’ music, but during the pandemic when Elon Musk was on Twitter spewing anti-vax bullshit, it actually became difficult to take Grimes seriously merely due to the association 😭 It’s sad

@unknownmusicman

2 ай бұрын

it's sad that you can't separate her from Elon. They're two different people. It's also sad that people are still clinging to that precious vax even though it clearly didn't work lol. Every single person I know who got a covid vax got Covid just the same as everybody else.

@user-oj9ed2it9i

2 ай бұрын

u still believe the vax was good!!?? omfg

Ah when you mentioned the custody battles that made me really sad. I grew up within a custody battle that lasted over a decade. I would not wish that on any other child ever. I have serious mental health issues because of the stress it caused, I was so distressed by it that my literal puberty was delayed. I hope they realize sooner rather than later the damage this could cause those poor kids.

As an addendum, give your kid a name that's not impossible to spell because you wanted to be creative and edgy. Sincerely, someone who's name is spelled at least a dozen different ways.

I hate what she’s turned into but it’s like a weird techy car crash I simply cannot look away from 😭😭😭 I saw her live at edc and it’s so frustrating bc she IS talented and has proven to be a great producer but between the shitty dj sets, weird political takes, and her association with elon, it’s hard to take her seriously.

....as a european: ...what does Grimes mean by "white culture"...? Multi-generations american with european decent....? If not, I would like to hear her definiton....

@gabby222themoon

2 ай бұрын

U just answered ur own question

@morgantaylor517

2 ай бұрын

Grimes is Canadian

@srose1088

2 ай бұрын

Grime is another word for filthy, but idk if that's what Grimes is derived from or not. It could be an acronym for all I know.

@fattern111

2 ай бұрын

What is for example "black culture" then? Sounds the same kind of weird!

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

​@@fattern111no. It doesn't. Black culture, especially in the US, came about under extreme circumstances that forced a label on a lot of people from a lot of different places. They had to form their own culture, much of it in secret. They had to sneak away from horrible people to be able to dance. They were banned from reading, so they had to find ways around that, ways to learn, ways to communicate. They would make songs, go dancing. They created their own dances. That culture very much only belonged to them. And it wasn't some gift from slavery. They created it in spite on slavery, through the strength of their own will to survive. And they fought for their freedom. They regained their equality. And white people have been trying to take it back ever since. There's not a white culture. We didn't all come together and bond as one people based on our skin color, or get forced to do that because of discrimination against our skin color. We're way too fractured to be a culture. There's American culture, and a lot of subcultures, but there's not really "white culture." We don't have a special way to mill wheat that only white people do.

I loved Art Angels hurts to see that was her peak for me

@Winter-Alpha-Omega

2 ай бұрын

You claw, you fight, you looose, got a doll that looks just like you. Remember when we used to say... I love almost every day? I saw the light in you, you know, going out as I closed our window. You never liked me anyway.

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

​@@Winter-Alpha-Omegaoh, god. That is painful. I wish we could take her back from that guy and deprogram her. 😢

Grimes sailing down a river still makes me cry if I think about it too long. It's so fucking stupid and hilarious

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

I miss that version of her. Wild girl. Like Anne of Green Gables. Instead now she's just a racist. It's so reductive. It strips away a person's identity.

@michelleh.5225

Ай бұрын

​@@TamaraKane i don't think she became a racist, I think she's always been racist, it was just more hidden. She always did cultural appropriation and treated other cultures and ethnicities as dispensible.

Visions was an incredible album. Loved it. She has never done anything near it before or since.

@Winter-Alpha-Omega

2 ай бұрын

I am sorry, but in my opinion, Visions is third, Artangels is second and Halfaxa is the best thing she's ever done or that she will ever create.

@ambersgoofballcorner

2 ай бұрын

i adore art angels so for me that was her peak but that was almost 10 years ago which is pretty sad. visions was even longer ago and its sad that she really fell out of touch a few years later

@k.k.6480

2 ай бұрын

art angels is a good album as well

@Deleteduser44

7 күн бұрын

​@@ambersgoofballcorner yes, art angels is still number 1 for me

that reddit thread is horrific its making me feel sick that i ever supported grimes by buying her music

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Same. 😢

IDK, I would say that Grimes and her art is „weird stuff for ppl who like a bit of weird aesthetic, but just a bit”. Easly digestible weird stuff. It does not mean it is bad, but it’s mean it is not so unique neither.

@mb7626

2 ай бұрын

This. I feel like even her best stuff was just a stopgap for finding more interesting music whereupon you proceed to never look back. So I get being really into her at a certain (younger) period in your life, or for a season or something as an adult. I don't think it's bad but people who act like she was so groundbreaking and creative really bring out my inner music snob.

@rhythmandblues_alibi

2 ай бұрын

​@mb7626 dude same. To hear people talk about it, you'd think she was the 2010s Aphex Twin or something but to me, her music has always sounded v poppy.

Man, I’ll never forget seeing an interview grimes did like a year ago where she said she liked the patriarchy because we wouldn’t have food, bridges, or modern civilization without it. 😭😂

@michelleh.5225

2 ай бұрын

Not to mention archaeological evidence that shows that women in ancient times pioneered agriculture

Not the azealia banks at the end 😭😭

I literally had no clue about the n4z1 stuff, I thought most of the criticism came from, Yknow, her dating the cartoon super villain billionaire.

yay i've been waiting for this forever

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Same. I mean, part of me didn't want it to happen at all, but I kept seeing this descent and I had to wonder if anyone else was seeing it, too. So many of the comments on her posts still seemed positive and oblivious. There are still some holdouts, too. I wonder if it will ever be a wakeup call. Like "Woah. Maybe racist fascism was a poor life choice." It's not looking like it so far, though.

i remember her beefing with Poppy. it was so messy lmao

@JamesLawner

2 ай бұрын

It seems like Poppy might be the new Grimes nowadays.

@gxttmiq

2 ай бұрын

@@JamesLawner tbh i prefer Poppy 🙏

@MsDecens

2 ай бұрын

​@@gxttmiq apparently poppy is awful too 🤦

@LyraAurora

2 ай бұрын

​@@JamesLawnerWait what did Poppy do? The last controversy I've heard from her was her involvement in the Mars Argo/Titanic drama, and that was years ago.

@JamesLawner

2 ай бұрын

@@LyraAurora She still makes music, and her last video was posted like 4 months ago.

have u ever considered doing an episode on Azealia her likability goes up and down so much but itd be nice to see a deep dive on her

@arnoldmogielinski93

2 ай бұрын

I fear even 45 minutes wouldn't be enough and idk if Kayla has this much mental bandwidth (for covering utter bs let alone organizing this much into a coherent timeline lol) these days (and that's a compliment, like sure it's entertaining but at the end of the day the saga is neverending and she has way better topics to cover succinctly and bitingly

Fantastic video as always Kayla! I discovered Grimes music in 2020 and love it, and found her quirks quite charming .... then I dug deeper and holy Jesus .... and this video just reminded me just how much she fell. Sad times.

Kayla my dear, I love you and this channel. your meticulousness is so appreciated for those of us fascinated with pop culture as if it were academia. You have a bright future and such a bright present.

I knew things were bad when the way she spoke changed. Little nuggets and terms and whistles that inform me what she's reading online, yknow? For example, in a Vogue interview (I think?) she talked about how a photo of herself kissing a woman went viral and got her a lot of hate on tumblr back in the early 2010s. She proceeds to say this was "before the woke era" so a photo of two women kissing wouldn't be well received back then. I remember thinking what an *interesting* word choice there. 2011 me would've never imagined Grimes and my super Fox-News-Watching uncle would be using words the same way.

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Oh, my gosh, this is such a good point and comparison!!! How did she get so lost? It's crazy! For me, I also noticed she gradually stopped talking to her art Discord and artists she had added to alt accounts, like me. It seemed like people had been badmouthing artists to her. Then she came out crazy strong in favor of AI art, and this was one major nail in the coffin of my love for her: She did an interview and the interviewer asked her how artists she talked to felt about AI taking their jobs, and she said, without any expression at all, "I don't talk to artists." 😔

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

I really felt like, "What the h*ll?!" Especially because she used to talk to her art groups all the time. She would answer our questions and ask us questions. She liked my art. There was community. It was suddenly gone.

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

And she made art, too. Hand drawn art.😢

As for the dj stuff: basically in rekordbox (dj software) it sometimes analyses the songs at different bpms or half time. I dj drum and bass; so 174 a likely dnb tempo sometimes is listed as 87 bpm. When you have sync on, it will change the track that’s listed at 87 to 174 (ie syncing the tempo); however it means the sound sounds double speed. The way is an easy fix you just press x2 in export mode in rekordbox. She would have encounter the issue if she had time to practice her set 😅. Most DJs know how to dj by ear (with visuals - vinyls is not for everyone) and don’t 100% rely on sync; like it’s a case of just turning off sync, reloading the track and then making if as she stayed 173 (what sub focus usually is) just 86.5 . I have a phone with a calculator. The other issue is she outsourced her rekordbox prep - which I get it’s annoying but like…. Girl no 😂.

@sentimentaltrash

2 ай бұрын

She also mentions the sub focus track reading at 134 instead of 173 which is weiiiiiird; as I dj him a lot and his transients (ie where kick / snare) are prominent making it easy for rekordbox to pick up the tempo. So that is honestly really odd to me. But yea an easy fix would literally just turn off sync and then wait for a moment in the track that has no beats to blend in the next track at any bpm; 3000s (standard for headline shows) make it really easy to do beat jumping and looping but that I would say is more intermediate. Which again…I get she’s busy and has a lot going on but a dj 101 would have saved this 😅

@rhythmandblues_alibi

2 ай бұрын

Also if she had just stfu and concentrated on fixing the problem instead of whining and screaming like a child at the crowd who *paid* to see her perform. Like saying "this is not my fault, but I'll take responsibility" is not taking responsibility. 🙄

Idk why but I haven't seen any of your videos in ages! I have lots to catch up with:) Glad to see your still making content & are growing!

I implore ppl to read that reddit thread that Kayla linked in the description! I am genuinely at a loss for words on how I feel after reading that thread.

@yumeriaaoyayi99

Ай бұрын

yep I'm only like a tenth way through it and it is straight up depressing af

The azealia grimes beef genuinely one of the best pop culture moments of the 2010s

Is that Elon Musk's elf baby mama? Also, love the new intro!

@puffball4484

2 ай бұрын

I used to hate when people referred to her this way but now i kind of think she earned it tbh...

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

​@@puffball4484yeah. I used to defend her, too. Then she reduced herself to his counterpart.

It always kind of mad me sad when people hated her for being annoying and acting odd, because I related a lot to the way she speaks and vocal + physical mannerisms. I'm autistic and it was almost like people were making fun of her for acting ADHD or autistic versus some of her actual (imo) problems. Of course her morals and political beliefs suck so I don't support her.

@margicates553

2 ай бұрын

As an autistic musician who has been the manic Pixie dream girl of many a libertarian tech bro/ burning man guru idiot. Hard relate. I empathize with her and yet I somehow got out before they knocked me up and took me to the scary white supremacist meetings. I barely escaped cult wife dom. But when it got too hateful and shitty I left. Not unscathed but I got out. ❤️‍🩹

Can you do a how the internet fell out of love with the Jonas Brothers?

@justjoannak

Ай бұрын

Ooh, yes

Ahhh so glad you covered this I lowkey wish it was longer cause there’s so much there and honestly would love more detail; I also think you’re really fair and nuanced!!

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Yeah. There's way more unfortunately. 😕 I liked the video, too, though.

New sub. You’re doing a great job kid! Also sorry if that offends you but at 40 everybody is a kid to me now. You have a great no-nonsense, unbiased point of view and I like your rather droll delivery. Cheers and keep up the good work. P.S. I was a young hip kid in a hip college town when Visions first dropped in 2011. And let me just tell you: she was absolutely a trailblazing, unique, one-of-a-kind thing at that time. That album is fully a 10/10 masterpiece and even though she has followed it up with decent stuff, the best thing she ever could’ve done was drop that one album and fade intentionally into obscurity Jai Paul style. Her myth would be legendary and people would talk about her like she was a musical deity til the end of time. Some people are better left behind their personae in this regard.

I love her first 3 albums, artangels is great, miss anthropocene was amazing but honestly nothing will beat halfaxa/darkbloom/visions era 2010-2014

LMAO, I love hearing your friend laugh while trying to read the houseboat bit… It’s so ridiculous

I don't think Elon and Grimes were married.

@kaylasays

2 ай бұрын

LMAO wait yeah I just realized I said husband at the beginning and I meant boyfriend, WHOOPS thanks for flagging. I correct it later in the vid

@Thenewboidahlia

2 ай бұрын

Ahh true, they weren’t married but she did have two of his kids. I definitely thought they were actually married for some reason though?

@goober_985

2 ай бұрын

@@kaylasays 😭

@ssh1487

2 ай бұрын

​@@Thenewboidahlia she had three of his kids

@Thenewboidahlia

2 ай бұрын

@@ssh1487 thank you I didn’t realize she had another one 😭

Love the new intro, Kayla

Love the new intro❤

I was a big fan of Grimes' music, honestly Art Angels was one of my fave albums of 2015. I even saw her perform a set at a music festival and it was really fun! So imagine my surprise when I learned she was dating Musk. And then things got worse and worse and I just... yikes lol.

Damn, so early! Anyway, when will you make the Josh Peck episode?

hey, this was my interesting. Are you doing a second part of this? ‘Cause her set in Coachella Week2 was just perfect. Week1 was not that btw. She’s a really good at what she does.

OMG ending the video with 212 got an instant like and sub from me. ur comedic timing!!

I was too slow and didnt get tickets to one of her shows in 2015 and i regret it so much. All her bs since then… it’s truly too much for me and I would never see her now. Wish I could’ve seen her before elon

Things Elon Musk has ruined: * Cars * Space * Twitter * Grimes

Also her song, "Flesh Without Blood" is one of my favorites from her earlier music! ❤

I will always love Geidi Primes, Halfaxa, Darkbloom, Visions, Artangels and some songs of Miss Anthropocene. That being said, it's sad what has happened with Grimes. I know she was always eccentric, but she's said a tooon of tone-deaf things currently.

i grew up low income in vancouver and as a kid in the alt/punk/rave/subversive art communities I definitely have always been critical of Grimes particularly because of her poverty tourism. she'd made bangers for sure and I will give credit where it's due, but her putting in her bio that she "got her start in crackhouses in Montreal" when in reality she was the one charging people rent, is just the biggest eyeroll ever. if she was just for real about where she actually comes from i think she would be more likable...maybe...except the whole nazi thing like Claire what are you DOING

@stephe1506

2 ай бұрын

yeah, those crack addicts handing over their money to her as their presumed slumlord gave her her start to be the Strong Independent Person she is today that only uses Daddy's Money 75% of the time.. duh

@rhythmandblues_alibi

2 ай бұрын

It will never stop being funny that she has such a boring, straight real name 😂

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

Yeah. I appreciate the backstory, but I can't like her again after the nazi stuff. I'm still kind of stunned that she never made a retraction of those comments, or apologized for liking and following those accounts, or how she doubled and tripled down instead as if that was showing integrity. 🤢 And the sad thing is, I still really want to like her, but to me she is lost. I don't even know if she knows what she did. Or if she does know, but she just feels she needs to live in that racist zone to access her kids or get child support. No idea. I wish she had never met that guy. But, like you mentioned, maybe she was kind of a corrupt landlady type all along.

@xxmilk-teethxx

Ай бұрын

@@TamaraKane I wanna clarify that the backstory was to emphasize that she's always been a hack

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

@@xxmilk-teethxx haha. I hear you, but I did like her music when she was actually singing, so just admitting that. I don't need to like her music anymore. There's a lot out there. 🙂

I didn’t realize that was her song at the beginning. I thought I didn’t know any Grimes songs.

thought i knew nothing about her truly, but in reality i knew 90 percent

Hearing 212 at the end made me get of TV KZread to get on phone KZread to tell you I love it thank you

I went to a festival in March where Grimes was schedule to play, and thank God i choose to wait for Kendrick Lamar for 4 hours bc Claire just played her DJ set with technical difficulties according to fans on her show, they left the festival pretty pissed off.

The fact that this video could have been two hours long and still wouldn’t have enough information

Grimes and Elon Musk were NEVER actually married

"this is all very narratively dense" when justifying blasting through all that happened SENT ME

If your mind is too open anything can fall in.

just when I started thinking to myself that I need to get more into Grimes music 😔😔 I really love Zoal, Face Dancer

I didn't know the internet was ever in love with Grimes

I don’t have a horse in this race but it amazes me how critical people are. Like what have you done lately that is original & creative?

@giversinner971

12 күн бұрын

People aren’t critical in a vaccuum. This “negativity” isn’t a response to nothing. Did you watch the video?

Oh my gosh that reddit thread was INSANE. That's some really shocking stuff.

I think we all just have to stop listening to insanely rich peiples music

they fell out of love once people started waking up to the fact that yt mediocrity & yt privilege are a thing, even if this realization came only to their subconscious. even the scream she let out when she realized she was not a good DJ was mediocre lmfao

@threlyo

2 ай бұрын

tumblr ≠ the internet

@ShinyHunterkt

2 ай бұрын

Thats racist af

as someone in art college when Art Angels came out, it was HUGE. i personally loved her music. when the Elon Musk stuff happened, she turned into an absolute weirdo

I love her art work! Yeah like a lot of artists,she’s human living in a twisted and very out public industry! Hopefully she learns something from Coachella mess

“You Smell Like A Roll Of Nickels” -Azealia Banks

I feel like there’s a few things wrong with this video. Just because grimes comes from a wealthy background does not mean that she has been supported from her family in her music career. She is a college drop out who left to pursue music, whilst in college there’s interviews of her saying she couldn’t afford to heat her apartment. It is very feasible she wasn’t supported in artist endeavours when her family appear very academic. However, upon this, even if she had been supported by her family I don’t understand why this is relevant to anyone because she has never claimed to be or not to be, and this has no impact on her art apart from her own personal influences, and if her art is not appealing to you because of her upbringing or background just don’t listen to her? Another which I think is my main point is that you’ve held over her head a clearly abusive relationship. If you have any knowledge on how domestic abuse happens, they influence many parts of someone’s life including what the say and their beliefs. Love and attachment can make people act in so many ways, but when someone has clearly been taken advantage of, I find it vastly unfair to hold this over them especially regarding her children.

Great video.

I love this series. Could we possibly get one on Bo Burnham??

@avagray_24

3 күн бұрын

He fell off so bad

her reply to elon musk's "pronouns suck" still lives in my head. iconic

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

It was, but why did she cave?

@sydeLPS

Ай бұрын

@@TamaraKane That's a great question that I wish I had the answer to!

@TamaraKane

Ай бұрын

@@sydeLPS thank you. Same

Out of all the facts stated here, Kayla having an interest in Onomastics was something i didnt expect (im into Onomastics myself)

I remember browsing tumblr ages ago and coming across a few posts that loved her music and posted the typical tumblr-esque gifs of her (hey, tumblr has its place worthy of mocking, but it was great to find some obscure music back then). Gave her a listen and really enjoyed her style. Yea, you’re not going to find that now lol. Her time with Elon Musk washed all that away very quickly for her.

Remember when people just used to make music

Idk who grimes even is but I just like putting your videos and hearing your voice while I do some things at home 😅

I think you should start planning a monster “how the internet fell out of love with kanye west” cuz there’s a lot to cover 😭