BONUS EPISODE

@humbleinthejungle.

6 ай бұрын

MKB(ONUS)HD 🎉🎉🎉

@charlesdamien5849

6 ай бұрын

I love to see Waveform highlighting these underground, lesser known channels.

@andremacedo8757

6 ай бұрын

Those bonus episodes are awesome!!

@adriendesentenac

6 ай бұрын

So this is not Friday? 🥲

@esgee3829

6 ай бұрын

there are even examples of DOUBLE counting in carbon offsets. along the lines of "saving the forests that were already saved" which rollie fingers discusses. see nature conservancy.

AYYYYYY, thanks so much for having me on the pod! Sorry to drag David’s mom's house into so many metaphors.

@RollieWilliams

6 ай бұрын

Yeah dude, that was pretty out of line.

@ClimateTown

6 ай бұрын

Okay you need to calm down,@@RollieWilliams

@JonasLekevicius

6 ай бұрын

Is that @RollieWilliams, the world-famous billiards influencer?!

@alysoncovin

6 ай бұрын

Omg this is hilarious 😂

@umairshaikh3682

6 ай бұрын

@@RollieWilliams its rollie from kamui!

UNDERRATED COLLAB. 100% didn't expect this. Shoutouts to the team for connecting with Rollie.

@greggbonti4952

6 ай бұрын

For sure. Rollie is awesome. "There's like a million of those people and they've all seen Mad Men" 🤣

I love Climate Town!! What a fun cross over!!

This is one collaboration I never would have expected!! Big fan of both of your channels.

This crossover seems so obvious in retrospect, but it truly feels like one of those moments where you bump into two people and go, "Wait, you KNOW each other??" Diving into this right now!

Rollie should become a recurring guest of the show every time a tech company comes out with some big 'sustainability' news.

@AMonitorDarkly

6 ай бұрын

MKBHD’s Senior Climate Science Correspondent

@4lc441

6 ай бұрын

Am I the only one who didn’t enjoy this episode? He didn’t really give meaningful answers to most of the questions he was asked. I feel like they’ve already discussed these issues with more detail/nuance in previous episodes than they did here.

@ElusiveTy

6 ай бұрын

@@4lc441 I've been looking for someone to say this. He seemed nice and wasn't unpleasant but I did find many times where I had to sigh and the awkwardness coming from the rest of the podcast, especially David (which you can see on his face a few times when the camera cuts), really got to me. His answers weren't really clear... Like when he was asked about whether pot-able/recycled water was a real thing and he went on talking about the Latin root of the term... That... That wasn't what he was asked. Or at the beginning when he even realised he went on a completely unrelated tangent and Marques' scoff was my reaction exactly at that point.

@AngelicHunk

6 ай бұрын

​@@ElusiveTy The Latin root thing was a joke you didn't catch. His comedy is a kind of dry humor.

@4lc441

6 ай бұрын

@@AngelicHunk Well yeah but he still didn't actually address the question right. He pivoted to other topics or jokes instead of actually talking about anything substantial.

Fun fact: I was one of the engineers tasked with doing a hydraulic analysis of the Niagara River leading up to Niagara Falls (they were replacing a pedestrian bridge on the American side). Power plants from both America and Canada take a certain amount of flow each day from the river to power lots of things. To make Niagara Falls look nice, during peak visiting hours (weekends during the summer) these plants don't take any flow from the water. We had to account for this in our analysis of the worst case scenario (in terms of volume of water). Thought it was kind of interesting.

These extra episodes are spoiling me and I love it and thank the team 🙌🏽

I work at an Amazon warehouse and was asked to help out for 40 minutes at this place where packages needs a human touch to make sure they are placed onto the conveyor label side up. The amount of single item, plastic shopping bags I’ve seen, in that short amount of time. Should be illegal. I always knew how much plastic bags Amazon goes through but to see it first hand, I was stunned

I've always been troubled by the fact that when tech reviewers recommend a product to buy they're almost never talk about the ethics and impact of the company that make them as well as their repair ability and companies attitudes to sustainability etc. I've worked as an ethical IT purchaser for government and business for many many years and do not understand why tech reviews seem to refuse to inform their audiences of the ethical side of their recommendations. Recommending you buy a product based on its features alone without considering the environmental sustainable and repairability aspects just seems wrong.....

@gmdille

4 ай бұрын

I agree with you and would love to see more focus on corporate ethics in reviews, but the fact of the matter is that covering ethics becomes its own separate research project to dig into the company, their history, the background of the product designers, etc. Not to mention you'd need to figure out if Company A (who has a great ethical reputation) uses any widgets from Company B (who doesn't) in their product, and that's a whole separate can of worms. And maybe all of that is overkill, but without doing exhaustive research I feel like it would be impossible to make any kind of informed ethical judgement about a single product, let alone a whole company. So if we want to have that kind of discussion (and I think there's absolutely value in having them), these "ethical reviews" would almost need to be their own deep-dive style documentaries a la 60 Minutes or something.

Find an excuse to bring Rollie back! Love the episode and discussion!!

you have no idea how much I love you for having Rollie on here. that's basically my dad right there

Rollie!!! unexpectedly getting more Climate Town content from MKBHD!

I love Climate Town!

Long term MKBHD/Waveform fan, found Climate Town just this year. A mixture of two great things! Just started listening to The Climate Denier's Playbook podcast and highly recommend it!

Climate Town! Great to see Rollie here, nice cooperation 😊

IT’S FRIDA- oh wait… happy tuesday!!!

@TheBismrk

6 ай бұрын

Honestly, it gets me every time

@LoolooandMarco

6 ай бұрын

Video title sounds really interesting, listening right now ^^

Thank you David. Can't tell you how many times I've seen people get stuck on a word in conversation and ask "Is ____ a word?" I always, as well, just say "Words aren't real." If I understand what information you're trying to translate from brainwaves to human sound patterns. Guess what? You succeeded.

@DavidImel

6 ай бұрын

🤝

@somratkhan8688

6 ай бұрын

But then they'll say that you're uneducated on simple things or you're a dumb person though.

@lackoliver55

6 ай бұрын

@@somratkhan8688 Depends on context, topic of conversation, and the company you keep. I guess. If you're having a philosophical debate on the nature of existential realism, (or worse, contract litigation) then yeah, vocab is probably important. If you're trying to explain the texture of a material to a friend and call it "cork-esque" then I get it.

Rollie is my hero man. So funny and so intelligent. The way he fuses teaching and comedy is a true gift.

Can't reccomend climate town enough, the deliver and editing style is top notch (the research and education is pretty great too :)

Just want to mention how I love that you guys do bonus episodes when you have a guest rather than the guest episode replacing the normal format! I mean I loved this episode and Rollie was a great guest, but it's just nice to know we still get to hear the regular squad banter later in the week 😅

@garvyadav

6 ай бұрын

I agree! 😃

Good for you guys for convincing such a great content producer on your show. I watch everything that Climate Town puts out. I wish that there was more, but I think that high quality takes time to produce. Great way to pull more traffic to your channel.

PLEASE bring this guy back. I love Climate Town

I love Climate Town! Rollie did an amazing job explaining some fairly complex concepts. Thanks for inviting him.

Know mid-week waveform!! David always comes up with such incredible episodes

I love how you quickly Rollie gets going on a tangent. It’s such an indicator of such deep knowledge and a desire to share it. No wonder climate town vids are so long - thank god he scripts it!

@khall187

6 ай бұрын

Ha more like total b/s rambling.

@darthmaul216

6 ай бұрын

@@khall187so facts are now b/s? Where will it end

@khall187

6 ай бұрын

@@darthmaul216 Facts? Not a single fact about the genocide in the Congo was discussed. Not a single fact about the perils of lithium batteries was discussed. No facts about the impact on the car industry. Not a single fact about CHARGING PEOPLE A TAX to use their own devices (carbon credits). This was literally a shine piece for the pro-green people and said NOTHING about the very valid counter arguments against it.

@sundersquare

4 ай бұрын

@@khall187 why would they talk about genocide in congo? its about climate. they also didn't talk about genocides that happened in the US. because its not relevant to the current climate crisis. this is basically an intro to thinking about the climate for fans of marques and tech people

David is spot on, words can mean whatever we want them to.

1:10:55 Imagine companies telling the best they can do-and then surpassing that. That's exactly what the climate efforts need...

I have a forestry degree the stuff said about logging and burning is false information. Forest management involves cutting trees like a person getting a haircut to keep it from being overgrown and unhealthy. Prescribed burns are another method of forest management where control fires burn dead leaves and other materials that could act as fire fuel on the forest floor. Stopping these practices will led to more severe fires in the future that will produce more carbon emissions than normal management practices. Not all harvesting are using a clear cut method. Most of the time it is a thinning method which once it's done you can barely tell there was a harvesting operation was done in that stand. Even so with clear cutting operations it is done with species like Douglas fir that love the method. It gives them open space to release their cones. Regeneration for Douglas fir is quick after clear cutting operations turning it into essentially a tree farm. Harvesting operations allow for more regeneration and completion after its done as new open space is available for seedlings to grow and not be shaded by old growth tree. Apart of "forest protection" as mention not to do in the podcast but is indeed how to protect the forest is prescribed burns and harvesting operations to keep the forest nice and healthy. In general there is a misconception about the whole logging industry and forest management in general as most people automatically think cutting down a tree is bad. There is a lack of public education for forestry practices.

@AngelicHunk

6 ай бұрын

No disrespect, but "false information"? There weren't any serious implications about forest management in this episode. When Rollie mentioned burning forests, he was implying a *complete removal* of a forest; he used it as a flippant hypothetical where a company pays for a carbon negative thing to not happen. The focus was about carbon offsets, not forest management. He also didn't imply clearcutting was the only harvesting method, but clearcutting definitely happens, so using that term is valid in an example about "carbon-neutral" posturing.

@yonkocommander5531

6 ай бұрын

@@AngelicHunk his remarks on leather are very far from reality tho, we need to keep in mind that cow farms are not going away, vegan leather is a synthetic plastic-like bottom of the barrel quality material that takes 1000 years to degrade, while real leather is a byproduct that otherwise will be garbage that will continue to exist, it's also way more biodegradable with way more durability and reusability, disappointed that such a big activist doesn't know this simple things.

So happy to see Rollie more places on YT, been a GIGANTIC Climate Town fan since the very first video

28:11 not only was it a slo mo, it was a time travel, and this podcast was recorded when I was 12 days old. Neat!

Since I am a massive pool fan, I knew Rollie for his cool recreations of shots, so to see him talking about climate change is definitely a crossover for me😂👍

I love MKBHD, but having a Phd degree in climate science and having collaborated with the IPCC I can said there where a lot of imprecision in the discussion. Also, the offsetting of carbon is terrible, is just greenwashing, there are a lot of issues with the accountability of carbon. I was expecting a more firm statement about that

I haven’t even started watching but I know this episode is gonna be amazing. ClimateTown is a John Oliver tier channel for me

@user-od3ii6bd7d

6 ай бұрын

He called himself “low budget John Oliver” I swear I didn’t prewatch. Fucking awesome 😂

The problem I have with getting rid of leather is that we still eat beef. So surely we might as well use the leather the cows are producing.

The thing about the OnePlus recycle scheme is, are they actually recycling it themselves? As soon as they aren’t then there’s a significant chance that they’re handing it to a “recycling company” that’s just going to landfill it because they couldn’t find a buyer or some such

Loving all the longform content!

the bonus episodes have been so great! Keep em coming!

let's goo, great guest climatetown funny and smart

Rollie is such a G. Nice job bringing him and his voice/activism on the pod!

Excellent collab! More Rollie!

"in any order...or?" Rollie is hilarious for no reason man

I LOVE the ClimateTown channel. Such an excellent idea for a bonus episode. Can't wait to sit down with a cup of tea and listen. Thank you to everyone who made this episode possible.

The collab I never expected, glad yall are fans of climate town too!!!!!

Can’t we leave David’s mom out of this 😭😭 #justiceforDavidsmom

Climate Town brought me here. First time watching this podcast. Glad to see it!

repairability is so hugely overstated. it’s far more important to not have to repair or replace a product in the first place. i’ve owned my current iphone for much longer than i’ve ever owned an android phone, and that’s despite repairing them. manufacturing replacement parts still has a climate impact, and replacing entire phones even more so.

Amazing to see Rollie on here - guy has been killing it for the past couple of years.

Easily my favorite WVFRM collab. This was so great. Can't wait to see the follow-up.

You guys have been crushing it lately - props to the whole team!

You absolutely should feature Louis Rossman on the right to repair video

Love Rollie's work on Climate Town! So glad to see him as a guest here - best collab of 2023.

I love Rolli, such a fun and informative person, one of a kind!

"Flushing the toilet doesn't take electrical energy..." well... not the flushing _itself_ . But the water usually first had to be pumped up to be available for the flushing :D Water mains don't work without electricity for long (it's also one of the things that work pretty well with renewables - water and wind-powered pumps have been used historically of course).

Was great to hear from Rollie! Have him on again, love this guy

Damn Climate Town is big time now! Hell yeah

Wow, what a collab!! For me... Rollie is known for his awesome pool videos, I still watch them everyday even though he stopped making those two years ago. Good to see him here.

Oh! Climate Town! LOVE his videos. This is awesome! Edit: Really looking forward to the EV episode. 🤞

so many bonus episodes! Thanks guys :). Enjoying em on my way back home from work!

Been watching Climate Town for a year now I scared my cat jumping for my phone when I saw the thumbnail Also, the 90 degree bond bit That absolutely KILLED

I'm half way through and can't stop being irate with the weird sound effect that keeps popping every few minutes. What's with thissss???? It gives me the goosebumps :/

Please involve more analysis on tech products with Rollie! His message is so important and increasing his reach would be fantastic

Seeing Raleigh in the Tumbnail made me almost as excited as a new climate town video

Love these random drops

These bonus episodes are seriously some of the most interesting stuff. Love it

holy smokes, i LOVE ClimateTown!!!!! This is the combo i never knew i wanted, but desperately needed

I lost it when he said "carbon dioxide fu*ks of into the atmosphere" 😂 (9:53)

No way!! The crossover episode i never knew i wanted but i always secretly needed

I used to work for a startup where we analyzed “minute by minute” fuel mix on the grid, and came up with a pretty neat approach to GHG reporting (time-interval-matched consumption and supply). Which Google implemented / adopted / talked about at a Google IO, after they saw our demo. 😂

I'm a simple man; I see Rollie, I upvote.

@somratkhan8688

6 ай бұрын

This ain't reddit...

In talking about recycling and cobalt mining…the lack of mention of the ongoing genocide surrounding that exact process is deafening 😢

MKBHD: Allows cursing. Rollie: Curses like there is no tomorrow.

Wish people were less afraid of nuclear because it is by far the best form of energy for large scale power

This guy is a great discovery. Just subscribed his channel. And the cherry on top is that he's got loads of Dave Matthews' vibes...

100% have Rollie back on again. What a great bonus episode

This dude cursed in a single episode more than the entirety of MKBHD's History. That's a record

1:10:50 You Came looking for this my good Sir.. Because that Click bait short didn't show anything.

Definitely loving the bonus episodes.

Thank you for the new channel, Climate Town. Great episode👍🏽

Is it a weird idea if the big tech companies just support devices for a longer period of time? Yes this will lead to higher development costs for the software department, but I think people will be open to pay for updates if that means they don't have to buy a new computer every four to six years . This will also maybe mean that computers need to be built more modular to replace a component here and there for security issues, but again you can charge for that right?

A crossover I never expected, but absolutely love!!

17:13 A lot of KZreadrs do that. They promote sustainable living to others, but they decide not to do it themselves. It is also called hypocrisy.

“Words aren’t real.” Love it!

I was JUST looking for a mid-week waveform drop 😌

1:11:04 is when he’s getting ready to type the Alphabet for those that came from the short.

@zandon8174

5 ай бұрын

🙏

@sacm717

5 ай бұрын

Thankssssss

@kyle.mediaa

5 ай бұрын

legend

@Elz.91

4 ай бұрын

Thanks man

this is totally a crossover i never saw coming. big fans of both

Climate Town is the best! Thanks for bringing his message into the mind of the tech community.

Great video, though I think it would have been worth mentioning what was the initial definition of net zero by the IPCC and the Paris Agreement, i.e. reaching a global level where anthropogenic GHG emissions are equal to anthropogenic GHG removals from the atmosphere, insisting on the words "global" and "removals". Net Zero was never meant to be assessed at company/firm level, nor at the level of an individual. A company will never, ever be "carbon neutral", and its products even less so. And avoiding emitting more (e.g. by installing solar panels) does NOT remove any CO2 from the atmosphere, it just allows to emit less. I think these two elements are super important to communicate, and partly explain why the EU is on its way to purely ban such deceiving communications from companies. There is much that tech is actually doing to reduce its carbon footprint, and it should be welcomed and further encouraged, but deceiving communications through the heavy (heavy) use of offsets is not part of it.

I would love to see him on your main channel for more climate change outreach ❤

Recycling is one of those things that me and my family do everyday and yet I lived in towns where they don't have any recycling center at all and it will be in the same state, +30 miles away from the city I was born in and live in now. Living in a state where mining does happen, I can directly see the impact these mines do have. There is a (I think asphalt) quarry in my city and it is massive. There is also coal mines spread across my state supposedly and I see coal trains almost everyday or every week. So I have firsthand viewing experience in actual environmental destruction mixed with electronic recycling.

The point made towards the end of the Clean Energy section about the Scope 3 category carbon footprint is fascinating… it isn’t obvious at all when you initially think about it. Like Marques said, you picture huge buildings and production facilities…

A top KZreadr talking about making a more sustainable future! Loved it!

Great podcast! Please more about this topic!

Loved this collab with Rollie and appreciate the research that goes into these deeper dive episodes🙌🏾

The reason boats float is simpler than you think. The requirement to float is to be less dense than water, overall. Boats even giant ships made of metal contain large pockets or spaces of air below the deck of the boat. Air is extremely less dense than water, so having large volumes of air included in the construction of your boat brings your overall density down, even if other sections of the boat are made of dense metal. The average (overall) density of the boats construction needs to be less than the density of water, that's all.

Amazing work, all of you! ❤

Damn, @climatetown making the podcast rounds. Nice! More Rollie is needed.

Actually, most of the impact is by going vegan, having a efficient, small electric car (model 3 and below) And insulating the homes with natural materials, like for example, straw, hemp , And building them out of wood or bamboo. Also, riding my bike and electric long haul buses would be very impactful But I don’t know if this is still possible in America

Rollie needs to be a regular, I love ClimateTown! And yeah, Apple can claim as much as they want about being climate friendly unless they start designing repairable and upgradable devices.