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@BIGJATPSU

16 күн бұрын

It's not a Ronnie video without hearing, "800 solid ass pounds!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Yeah buddy! Light Weight!😂

These guys were superhuman.

I remember Dr. Terry Todd making a top ten list of the strongest men of all-time. Although Ronnie didn't make the list, Todd was impressed with him enough that he included him as an honorable mention.

@lordmegatron6145

16 күн бұрын

do you have a link ??

@PinnaclePete

16 күн бұрын

@lordmegatron6145 It was in a magazine. I saved the page, but I wouldn't be able to find it quickly with all the tons of stuff I have. Big Z was on top at the time, and Todd put him #1. Kaz, Anderson and Cyr finished in the top 5 (not necessarily in that order). Shaw, Hall and Thor weren't a force yet, so they didn't make the list.

@lordmegatron6145

16 күн бұрын

@@PinnaclePete thanks..

@Manusia.satu1

3 күн бұрын

Pound per pound, Ronnie is stronger than most strongman

@PinnaclePete

3 күн бұрын

@@Manusia.satu1 I'm fairly sure Todd also included Franco Columbu as an honorable mention because of his great pound-for-pound strength. In that regard, he was beyond even Ronnie!

Might be unpopular opinion but prime Pudz vs Prime Ronnie strength, body, function and athleticism I'd prefer Pudz hands down. Ronnie was massive and strong but couldn't walk without being out of breath.

@PinnaclePete

16 күн бұрын

@Pantelifts10 That's very true. But although Mariusz had one of the better physiques for a strongman, put him on a stage posing against Ronnie and he gets blown out of the water. They both specialized in different areas.

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Absolutely, due to training, Mariusz was the better athlete.

@chr970

15 күн бұрын

I don’t think your opinion will be unpopular. Let’s not forget, Pudz was cut and ripped and absolutely huge back in his prime.

@93Beefcake

12 күн бұрын

@@PinnaclePete now tell me what is more important being strong and fit or "looking strong in a beauty contest" ? bodybuilding is just the most unnecessary thing ever and other than being unhealthy af unrealistic (as they never look in contest shape for 95% of the time) and they have no cardiovascular endurance whatsoever what is even the point they just look strong they aren't really strong considering muscle size though if you compare them to actual strength athletes

Great video and comparison!

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Mariusz is obviously going to be stronger (because he was a professional strongman) but it would have been interesting to see what Ronnie could have accomplished in that area if he'd focused on strongman instead of bodybuilding.

Bodybuilding coaching and workouts have come so far since Ronnie. WSM training has come so far since the days of bending an iron bar around your neck. This footage needs to be preserved for the future! Amazing work as always and your analysis is spot on. Thanks for another great episode!

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Thanks Matt.

Thanks for doing this !

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Thanks for suggesting it

no one is beating Mariusz at old WSM events

Mariusz is a beast

@StrengthUniverse

17 күн бұрын

Incredible athlete

@NeverTrustGovrnmentOrGlobalist

12 күн бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse Partial reps shouldn't count as real strength. Because I guarantee Ronnie would be pushing out fewer reps if he used a full range of motion on his lifts. Mariusz is stronger than Ronnie when it comes to real overall strength using a full range of motion on all lifts.

@StrengthUniverse

12 күн бұрын

@@NeverTrustGovrnmentOrGlobalist Ronnies deadlift was pulled with full ROM and zero hitching. His squat was marginally short of full depth and his shoulder press was not locked out to keep tension on the shoulder rather than the tricep (as I mentioned at the start of the video, they trained for different sports). You seem to fail to account for the fact that all of Mariusz lifts are claims e.g they are not of video so cannot be accurately judged. Many people doubt his claims of a 290kg bench and we don’t no if the squat was performed raw or equipped. Also the fact that for the deadlift and shoulder press, Ronnie was only 5 weeks out from the Mr O so definitely not at full strength

A seated overhead with back support makes a huge difference on an overhead. I have done seated overhead at 315 for 4 reps. But 300 log and 330 overhead push press.

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Yes absolutely; the core strength required to do military press is incredible. As you are aware most strongman overhead lifts usually require the athlete to clean the weight from the floor to the shoulders which is also massively taxing.

It's not stated enough Ronnie was depleted on those legendary clips. Prepping for a bodybuilding show is ridiculous, let alone an Olympia. Ronnie likely wasn't even @ 70% doing those insane lifts. I'm sure Mariusz was dinged up on most of his WSM performances also, but Ronnie has to have way less to give in the gym trying to lean out for a show. Mariusz would still be stronger than Ronnie because of the training, but Ronnie would be very close carbed up and hydrated.

@David-lx4yb

12 күн бұрын

I have always wondered how much more incredible Ronnie would have been had he lifted smart rather than heavy,

Ronnie is always good for these comparisons because he has so many lifts on video, but his form and ROM are always lacking. I am shocked there wasnt better choices for lifts from Pudz as he has a decade of strongman footage. I am shocked here how close Ronnie was to Pudz who has a case for strongest man in history.

@nocbvideos6458

16 күн бұрын

I dont think any one would argue that Pudz is the strongest man in history. Yes he was one of the most dominant strongman of his time but he competet in one of weakest eras. If were looking for the strongest men we would end with prime Hafþór Björnsson, Žydrūnas Savickas or some or some of the elite powerlifters even after adjusting for people getting better over the course of history.

@stopplzs

16 күн бұрын

he's doing lengthened partials which have now been proven to be superior than full ROM for muscle growth

@thewelfaregourmet

16 күн бұрын

@stopplzs I will stick with Dr.Mike in the "full rom club". Unfortunately there is workout research to support any point. Lol no shade

@BuJammy

16 күн бұрын

@@stopplzs Ahahahahahahaaa!

@youokaybuddyfitness

13 күн бұрын

​​@@thewelfaregourmetdr mike himself has completely switched and is emphasizing the stretch and very lengthened positions and skipping the lockout or top lately

Great video!!! Can you make one with Alexander Karelin? Probably the most terrifying and powerful athlet ever !!

Can you do a video on Tom Stoltman and Mitchell hooper. Then Luke Stoltman and Eddie Williams.

I think how crippled Ronnie is now is a testament to how hard he pushed and how strong he was. I’d dubious of some or Mariusz claims though. His bench seems very high

another awesome video! I will give Marius the leg press because I count full range of motion as more important than stacking up 45's on it and barely moving it

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Thanks bud, Mariusz's Leg press ROM is seriously impressive

@WJHandyDad

14 күн бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse when I've done leg press I've always gone for a crazy range of motion and never done more than 5 or 6 plates on each side

Legends !!!!!!!!

Mariusz is flexible

Mariusz locked his knees on every rep of the leg press. That's called resting. There was no rest for Ronnie. Tension on the muscles the entire time.

Спасибо за видео брат, это реально две легенды!

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Thanks. Two of the best

I would never think to challenge any claims by Mariusz, but many of the categories were "claims" , but not verified! That being said, I believe he's the strongest ever competed in WSM!

I absolutely love your videos! I would love to see more on Tom Haviland and Christopher Dorn. Also gage_the_guggernaut and Joesph Tumbarello Honestly/ if you made a 1.5 hour documentary I would buy it. Keep up the great content!

@reesespieces3379

16 күн бұрын

Additionally, I think we all wonder what Ronnie would do via strongman or powerlifting if he trained a whole year for it after a few Mr.O titles…so incredibly strong

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Thank you, I've made a note of your suggestion

Both are beasts but Mariusz is from another planet, what a freak of nature.

800 solid 800

And lets not forget. Ronnie was in his late 30s/early 40s when Mariusz was in his 20s (1964 vs 1977)

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Remembering that strength athletes usually peak in there late 30's.

Being the Strongest Bodybuilder of all time doesn't equate to Being the Strongest Man on Earth aka The World's Strongest Man

@StrengthUniverse

14 күн бұрын

He's not the Strongest Bodybuilder of all time

@rafaelcisneros562

14 күн бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse Strongest Mr Olympia?

@StrengthUniverse

14 күн бұрын

@@rafaelcisneros562 Yes Ronnie was the strongest winner of the Mr Olympia

Ronnies lifts were designed primarily as body building not powerlifting and he was a reduced carb diet. His potential IMHo is about 10-20% more than his recorded.

what an awesome video....this is excellent content. I wish the guys at "It's just bodybuilding" (Dusty Hanshaw, Big Ron Partlow, & Coach Scott McNally) would do a "It's just bodybuilding reacts" review of this video !!! Their discussion on this 5 1/2 minute video could easily become close to a 30 minute reaction video.

I would like to see a strength comparison between Greg Kovacs and Markus Rühl in their physical primes.

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

I don't know if you've seen it but I made a video on Greg and for the reasons I highlighted in that video an accurate comparison would be difficult

They use to have a video of Maruiz on here shoulder pressing over 500lbs of Free weights for reps

Great video! Both Marius and Ronnie were phenomenal. Hard to believe Marius built his size and strength mostly on ice-cream, candy bars and other highly processed junk foods.

@MrDreamer60

16 күн бұрын

Did he?

@vojtechkorhon4159

16 күн бұрын

He said that he eats a lot of those things ​@@MrDreamer60

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

He had a reasonable Bodybuilding diet but also liked to indulge

IN THE NEXT VIDEO DANIEL BELL VS JESUS OLIVARES PLEASE... 💪👌

What about Krzysztof Radzikowski Ron Gronkski Bill Romanowski All these polish people seem pretty dame strong with reputation in status

@StrengthUniverse

11 күн бұрын

I'm not sure if it's still up but i made a video with Krzysztof Radzikowski about 3 years ago

ROM counts

Mariusz was at his best in strongman events that required a combination of strength,endurance and agility as opposed to pure strength output. What Ronnie was able to do was incredible and it would have been nice to see what he could have done training strictly for strong man.

@osuk1

15 күн бұрын

No roids = weak.

*Ronnie done half reps but Mariusz done full reps

@stopplzs

16 күн бұрын

he's doing lengthened partials which have now been proven to be superior than full ROM for muscle growth

@joebot9309

16 күн бұрын

@@stopplzsit’s now been proven your absolutely wrong. Get with the latest data bro

Battle of titans

Love Ronnie. Not a fair comparison Light weight baby! ❤

It’s possible Ronnie could have done well WSM. Being a “smaller” power guy when compared to guys like Brian Shaq and The Mountain. Mariusz was obviously dominant in the WSM events that required movement. Absolutely the best ever. Ronnie maybe could have been that type of competitor? Very strong on static lifts but top tier on the movement lifts?? Who knows I guess. Would have been fun to see that’s for sure

Both are legends but Mariusz is also a lot more athletic. Bodybuilders tend to be more musclebound where strongmen keep a lot of their mobility for their sport.

Has there been video confirmation of Mariusz claimed 290KG Bench?

So I feel compelled to comment on the leg press as ronnie should take an honest and easy win (thou personally don't know about straps so someone else can quantify that difference) There is a way to quantify the angle in leg press and the force on the leg with mechanics. A 35 degree leg press is 57.54% of a vertical leg press in terms of the force on the legs. While a 45 degree leg press is 70.71% of a vertical leg press. So 2300 pounds at 57.54% is 1,319 pounds vertically. Then 860 pounds at 70.71% is 608 pounds vertically. That's over a 2x advantage to ronnie.

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

I guess you are referring to Knee Wraps? They can make a huge difference with a full ROM,. but as seen in the video Ronnie didn't use a full range of motion so how much difference they made is questionable. The biggest difference in the angle of the sled which you have accounted for but Range of Motion is just as important and as seen in the video, Mariusz was moving the weight twice the distance of Ronnie. Taking everything into account they are pretty close.

@kristiankember8973

16 күн бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse I did forget the lesser range of motion

Can u do one for Andrey Smaev now, he is a lot stronger now

@StrengthUniverse

3 күн бұрын

I'm working on that video at the moment.

Can you do a video about Michael Jordan vs LeBron James?

Interesting video bro,i like it. Imagine if ronnie dedicated his life to powerlifting instead bodybuilding... i dont think he could achive 500kg on deadlift,but probably around 450kg (i guess). So in facts,we could say Marius was stronger,but ronnie had more power projection in a future. Anyway,is my opinion,good video 👍🏻.

@StrengthUniverse

11 күн бұрын

Thanks bro, If only we'd got to see Ronnie participate in Strongman or Powerlifting; that would have been cool

1:11 that's not 290kg ... that looks like 200kg

I'll agree with all of the assessments because the overhead press. Standing combined with those loose apparatuses on the ends is so much harder. That being said i don't think there was enough evidence to compare the 2 athletes fairly on the strength of that lift.

Mariuz, Raw 400kg DL, 639lbs, 800lbs+ raw squat...not even close. Ronnie's DB shoulder press was in actuality an incline press

The impressive part about this is that reguardless of Ronnie's less than steller range of motion, he was able to perform lifts near the same level as Mariusz WHILE being significantly leaner. If you've ever tried lifting heavy while starving, then you'll know what i mean 71124

So now where going by “Claims” of what that person says. I believe several of these lifts were exaggerated by Marius. He never benched 639. I can almost guarantee it. Look at what Thor and Brian Shaw Max bench is, Thors around 540-560 and Brian‘s around 585 I believe. Ronnie said he could have squated 5-6 reps that day but stopped at 2. So that would give him max of 900-930 for a single. Brian Shaw in an interview and he said Marius wasn’t know as the strongest in the static lifts but excelled in the athletic events. So with all this being said, I’m pretty sure Ronnie definitely has Marius beat in the bench and squat. The dead lift is the only thing that I believe. Marius would probably beat him in. Shows how strong Coleman was that he was stronger in most static lifts than the top strongman which was Marius in that era.

How strong was the undefeated heavyweight champion of the world Rocky Marciano?

Mariusz najlepszy !

Ronnie was strong in the gym with limited range of motion. Its really no competition. Mariusz would smoke Ronnie

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

In strongman yes, but put both in a powerlifting competition with a few weeks to prepare.........

I'm 58. My lag press 500 kg * 30reps. I think Mariush did more.

The strong man competitions are so diffident level than the gym. I’ve tried this many time and laughed at my “lack of success”: try alternate standing dumbbell curls with 40 pounders. No problem can do multiple reps as I’m sure any of you guys can. Then from the store , I’ll carry in each hand an 18-litre water cooler jug which are also 40 pounds a piece. Try curling them. Same weight. I can’t get one! Just that awkward, non-conventional object makes incredible difference. If anyone can get couple of decent reps using those coolers…let me know👍

Maybe if Ronnie was a bit taller he could have been one of the best strongmans of all time...The Strength's there

If ronnie was at 19-20% body fat he would've broken all records

Ronnie was within spitting distance, at a much lower bodyfat.

POLSKA GUROM !!!

Don't agree with giving Ronnie the overhead press for a seated press with much shorter ranger of motion.

@StrengthUniverse

12 күн бұрын

It was based on the seated barbell and DB press judged against Mariusz's full history of overhead events which left them very close. than factoring in that Ronnie wasn't training as a strength athlete and was only 5 weeks out from the Olympia. Also Consider that all of Mariusz lift's were achieved with leg drive

4:07 this is 400 kg, not 415 kg.

@StrengthUniverse

13 күн бұрын

As is clearly stated in the video his best claimed deadlift is 415

@Zajc-rm2cd

11 күн бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse Pekanov won- 410 kg. Mariusz 415 kg??no movie.

@StrengthUniverse

11 күн бұрын

@@Zajc-rm2cd correct, in that competition Mariusz did 400. There is no video of his claimed 415

Don't forget Jonnie Jackson. Trained with Ronnie and maybe had some better lifts.

Is it worth doing a video on powerlifter turned bodybuilder Joel Thomas? Although he isn't a 300-400 lb. guy, he has exhibited incredible pressing power with barbells and dumbbells in the bench and incline press for max sets and high rep sets.

Before you keep bringing up range of motion, you should listen to what Eddie has to say on that topic...

My pr squat leg press is heavier than Mariusz'.

Theoretical 1 rep maxes are bogus. If you’ve never held that much or put it on your back it feels completely different

@StrengthUniverse

6 күн бұрын

I think you meant to say "1 rep maxes are bogus". I state it is theoretical e.g a supposition to make it as clear as possible that this is a calculation.

Mariusz was stronger clearly. That is not a knock on Ronnie at all. Among bodybuilders Ronnie was one of the strongest ever and compared to average Joes Ronnie was stronger than anyone you will see at your local gym. However, Mariusz was legit one of the strongest human beings on the planet. He could lift weight and do things with heavy weight that Ronnie simply could not quite do.

all good except that a bodybuilder's OHP cannot possibly be near the GOAT strongman, low chance.

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

Having checked the results of all of Mariusz's OHP events across his 10 years of competing; I can safely conclude that Ronnie and Mariusz were very closely matched.

@high-captain-BaLrog

16 күн бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse wow..ok i guess mariusz won because his contests had more dynamic lifting unlike a static shown like Shaw Classic or Arnold's

Mariusz, unlike Ronnie, was smart enough to maintain his health and not become disabled. This is the main thing, not power. In general, an incorrect comparison - powerlifting and bodybuilding are completely different disciplines.

@StrengthUniverse

13 күн бұрын

The fact they are from different sports was literally mentioned in the first 20 seconds of the video and again at the end

Co by nie mowic to Mariusz jest w duzo lepszej kondycji dzis niz Ronnie pomimo dzwigania.Szkoda Ronniego bo to bardzo pozytywny facet.

Marius 5ft10

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

He's 6'1. Even now he's 47 years old and after years of training his height in MMA is still listed at 186cm

Ah, I do not see any however here. Ronnie did the 562 pounds 5 times. The other guy did 639 once. Ronnie wins. Because a guy that can do 25 pushups 5 times is stronger than the guy that could only do 20 pushups 1 time.

@StrengthUniverse

6 күн бұрын

Incorrect, Ronnie did 500lb x 5 and that would in theory provide a 1 rep max of 562.

Ronnie made zero clean lift like Mariuz!!

Ach, colman war viel massiger.. Kommt keiner an. Er hat Bodybuilding gemacht und der andere strongman is ein gewaltiger unterschied. Und vor allem hat colman keine mit Menschen geschlagen. Für mich ist er ein Ehrenmann. Und nicht vergessen milo barus der noch stärker war, er hob mit ein Arm ein 360 kg schweres Pferd auf sein Rücken und ging die Leiter hoch. 👍 👍 Auch milo schlug keine Menschen. Das sind für mich ehrenmänner. 👍 👍 ❤

Marius can really DO something with his muscles in the ring, bodybuilders all get whooped by thinner fighters. Their muscles don’t mean anything.

@Manusia.satu1

3 күн бұрын

Ronnie would destroy Conor or Khabib in UFC lol. Strength difference is crazy. One grab, Conor dead

@VTVT1306

3 күн бұрын

@@Manusia.satu1 Ronnie doesn’t destroy anyone but himself. Poor man can hardly walk anymore.

Ronnie could not have competed

@BuJammy

16 күн бұрын

Give him 6-8 months training for powerlifting, and, say, 2 years or so for strongman of that era... He could make a meaningful dent in the former, and who knows in the latter.

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

@BuJammy, I agree, especially if he had competed in Powerlifting

Those huge veins on Coleman cannot be healthy 😢

@vojtechkorhon4159

16 күн бұрын

Proffesional bodybuilding isn't a healthy sport.

@DOYLETWAT

15 күн бұрын

It ain't a sport​@@vojtechkorhon4159

Mariusz. Mr Olympia is a glorified chippendale show. Static gym lifts dont necessarily translate to WSM. Ronnies range of motion is awful too.

@gregdavis6335

16 күн бұрын

Your comment comes across as very angry. This is purely for entertainment purposes, and they are legends in their own right. Breathe man

@joebot9309

16 күн бұрын

You ok bro? Got some body dismorphia going on?

@StrengthUniverse

16 күн бұрын

😂

@noladude5046

16 күн бұрын

Point being who would win with both of these individuals in their prime in a WSM competition?.. We all know this answer

@johnnyesponge9218

16 күн бұрын

​@@noladude5046what's the answer?

Ronnie is not 5'11 😂 this video is hokie

@StrengthUniverse

13 күн бұрын

Ronnie prior to his serious back injury was 5'11. Plenty of resources and pictures that verify his height

Imagine how strong Ronnie would be at 20-30 percent bodyfat

Ronnie half reps coleman

@hdjdjdbdbosnfbfvdvd9543

17 күн бұрын

Show your 300lbs+ shredded body kid

@ranfan1820

16 күн бұрын

Solid ass half reps that would fold you like a clean pair of clothes

@stopplzs

16 күн бұрын

he's doing lengthened partials which have now been proven to be superior than full ROM for muscle growth

@BuJammy

16 күн бұрын

@@stopplzs Could you repeat that? I'm not really sure what you're getting at.

@ericvensel4040

15 күн бұрын

He's intentionally overloading his targeted muscles for his upcoming Olympia victory.