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That locked legs of Dorian in the leg press give me shivers. My knees are hurting from watching

@adamdahlstrom2095

4 ай бұрын

Hehe was looking for this sort of comment, I 100% agree, hurts me tooo

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same while editing the video

@luke-kun9030

4 ай бұрын

I couldn't even look at it

@Berserk1717

4 ай бұрын

It looks dangerous and awful but trust me it isn't actually

@Joe_Pittard

4 ай бұрын

I always lock out, granted, I've only done five plates on the leg press for my sets, so maybe it's only an issue when you get real heavy, but I've never had an issue. No knee pain, no backwards bending. Just don't ego lift, go down all the way, and you'll be fine

On form alone, Dorian hands down wins.

Ruhl's bench form was fucking absurd. I'm not even sure if it's appropriate to call that a bench press because it looks more like a guillotine barbell fly, and to do that with close to 5 plates is inhuman.

Interesting comparison. Both mass monsters and heavy trainers

Nice. I've been a big fan of Marcus for years. Timing is everything with how far a bodybuilder can progress in his placings. Dorian came up at the right time as Haney's reign was closing. Marcus had to deal with Jay, Ronnie, Nasser and others when he was coming up. The competition was deeper for him, IMO. Great video of two amazing competitors! 👍

@dj_m1999

4 ай бұрын

you're in denial, Dorian's competition throughout the 90s was steeper than what Marcus had to deal with. Every single name except for Jay saw their primes during the 90s. When was Nasser at his best? 1996 and 1997 when he was placing in the top 3. Not afterwards. When was Shawn Ray at his best? 94 and 96. When was Levrone at his best? around '95. Flex? 93. These same people were placing top 2 and 3 during Ronnie's era as well, but they weren't in their primes anymore, except for Cutler whose first Olympia was in '99 and Yates was already retired.

Future video idea: The strenght of Jordan Peters compared to some other strong bodybuilder?

Markus Ruhl's bench press form is very scary. It almost looks like a Guillotine Press when you come right under the chin instead of lowering the weight lower to your ribcage. I cant believe he never tore his pecs.

@Schmandgrab

4 ай бұрын

He actually did tear his pec which led him to retire. It was a slow process,first notice by a photographer, but got worse over time.

@Schmandgrab

4 ай бұрын

He stated himself that he would press with a different form if he could go back and change things.

Best back vs best delts& chest !

Two legends in one video ❤

Quality, as always!

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

Thanks George

Dorian definitely did NOT bench 500x8😂 he barely got 405x5 on incline, that doesnt make any sense

@StrengthUniverse

3 ай бұрын

I have doubts but he did say he used 160 dbs for shoulder press and did flys with 120lbs both of which are verified with videos or photos so who knows, maybe he got stronger later in his career?

@Mahmoud123_

27 күн бұрын

The footage in the video before his blood and guts video , he is not the same size , I don't believe him specially when say (like) 500

@Mahmoud123_

27 күн бұрын

How ever it doesn't matter I will never be able to hit that weight 😂😂

Johnnie Jackson vs Ronnie Coleman next! Glad to hear your narration again.

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. Johnnie v Ronnie: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXx63LN9f9OaoqQ.html

I'd like to see Magnus Samuelsson vs Svend Karlsen.

nice video brother

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion buddy👍

damn, haven't seen you in a while, youtube was shadowing you a lot, I never saw any of the recent uploads

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

This is only my second video since the start of Novermber. I expect it will be sometime before YT start giving my videos any exposure.

@justaguyfromreddit

4 ай бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse hows the recovering is going buddy?

The "Stupid Bingus" in your monotone style killed me lol. Love all your vids

How about a video on "the worst synthol abusers ever" im curious how bad it can get

„Urs spottet Markus Rühl beim Seitheben“ in this Reel you can see Markus do lateral raises with 30kg in the age of 50

Great to have you back 👍

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

True.

Looks like i am first 😁

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

Or second even, but thanks for the comment

Welcome back. Hope you're fully recovered.

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

Cheers Damien

Cybex leg press and hack seem harder to train with than some other makes. They did compete on the same stage

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

Dorian retired in 1997, the same year Markus won his pro card.

@colinluby5950

4 ай бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse Sorry, my mistake

Steeper angle=more force Dorian win I would also argue that skipping the bottom part of a military press makes it dramaticly more easy. So does a smithmachine. Also Ruhls inclined bench is more of a normal bench when you lift your ass off like that.

IN THE NEXT VIDEO DANIEL BELL VS JESUS OLIVARES PLEASE...💪👌

First of all with a Smith machine as you said you’re not doing that true weight that’s on the bar because of the counterbalance! But I also think more important is the fact that you do not have to your self balance the load as you move it ,it (which may be bad) has a predetermined bar path prior to you even attempt the movement! And I enjoy listening to your post not only for the history and comparisons, but your accent is cool dude💪

Do Kyle vs itsadreamworld plz

That wasn't even lose to 518 on the shoulder press. Watch the actual video and look at the plates, and it's like just over 3 plates a side. The guy who made the video saying over 500 originally was lying or just had no clue. I have seen the video and counted the weight.

@StrengthUniverse

3 ай бұрын

I've been training for almost 4 decades and speak to many of the athletes so saying I'm "lying or just had no clue" is just plan disrespectful. Here is the original video. You can clearly see 3 x blue (20kg each) and 3 x yellow (15kg each) per side plus the weight of the bar. Please feel free to count the plates yourself: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqqbzKOEn72ud8Y.html

I made it

Markus smoked cigarettes. DORIAN YATES didn't.

Full range of motion with on leg press with 1500 is way way harder than the short range of motion with 2094 as well. I have seen Ruls use close to rull range of motion and 1100 pound was challenging for him. You can't compare lifts with completely different ranges of motion. A lot of these lifts are just wrong.

@StrengthUniverse

3 ай бұрын

As per the commentary, differences in grip, ROM, form and equipment are all highlighted

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES , VERSUS 4EVER!!!💪

Markus for the leg press

@TheCaliRhino

4 ай бұрын

Nah, those hand assists on the knees is a major boost. I was leg pressing 1000 pounds last year for reps & the hands on the knees makes it way easier.

@hanswinkler8014

4 ай бұрын

@@TheCaliRhinoMarkus tells in this DVD the hands are just for the safety und not for the help, Im from Germany, Im so sorry for my bad english

@PiTeKCraft

2 ай бұрын

@@hanswinkler8014 def my thoughts

I don't believe the 500 x 8 bs claim!!!

@Mahmoud123_

27 күн бұрын

No one believes

Markus all the way

@billj4525

3 ай бұрын

His legs were strong, but he actually wasn't that strong for his size. It's pretty obvious when you watch him working out. I mean it's pretty obvious Marcus couldn't bench that 463 without a spotter and lifting his body off the bench. Is he really strong? Well obviously yet, but just not super strong like a Ronnie Coleman. There are other guys stronger, many.

Dorian is d best but 8 reps of 500lbs??????????????????????

Dorian was 5ft9 Markus 5ft10.5 Marcus was way bigger and stronger uncrowned Mr Olympia! Best of all time markus!

@StrengthUniverse

3 ай бұрын

Dorian is certainly more than 5'9.

Marcus had much better legs

@itsnotfunny8257

4 ай бұрын

i wouldn't say MUCH.

@erickelley5420

4 ай бұрын

Lol his hams and glutes we're soft asf compared to yates.

Dorian lifted the weights himself...I don't know what Markus was doing on occasion

I'd give it all to Dorian, cause of heavy weights and very good technique. Markus was/is still overrated: heavy stageweight small condition; heavy workweights small technique. 😘😊

Every lift was helped, not any clean lift

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

Spotters were very hands on for both athletes

Almost every lift shown is assisted. No real powerhouses imo.

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

They are all hands on that makes the point in which they receive assistance very hard to judge.

with 150x6 seated press you ain't pressing 227 8 times on the bench mate, no way

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

There is no equation for carry over of an individuals strength from a shoulder press to bench press.

@theotherchannel2028

4 ай бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse yes but there is common sense, and also the gym experience

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

@@theotherchannel2028 I've got plenty of both but I wouldn't dare to assume what someone could bench press based on there overhead press. Some people, genetically aren't very good at overhead

@ytsux9259

4 ай бұрын

I hate their bs claims!!!

6 Mr Olympia's to zero tells you who was the strongest.

@user-mg2dq4ty6c

4 ай бұрын

It really doesn't

@edwardhinton1615

4 ай бұрын

@@user-mg2dq4ty6c It really does.

@chuckstevens2672

4 ай бұрын

No it doesn’t lol

@edwardhinton1615

4 ай бұрын

@@user-mg2dq4ty6c It really does

@edwardhinton1615

4 ай бұрын

@@chuckstevens2672 Yes it does.

Dorian was 5'4&3/4-- Marcus was 5'6&1/4

@incidentus7626

4 ай бұрын

Dorian was 5’10 markus was comparable to ronnie in height maybe even a little bit taller

@MellonVegan

4 ай бұрын

There is more than enough video evidence of them next to other people. What you're saying is just wrong.

@dj_m1999

4 ай бұрын

Ronnie is the same height as Dorian...​@@incidentus7626

@Pantelifts10

4 ай бұрын

Troll. Marcus was close to 5'11 at his prime. Stood beside him same height as me

@dj_m1999

4 ай бұрын

Ronnie and Dorian were the same height@@incidentus7626

Dorian bench pressed 500 lb for 10 reps he said that on Patrick bet David interview I don't think any of these bodybuilders are doing that

@Pantelifts10

4 ай бұрын

I don't believe it. Exaggerations. He had 405X6 on Incline on his prime.

@samscharp3367

4 ай бұрын

Kevin Levrone was. He put on a master class when it came to bench press

@Pantelifts10

4 ай бұрын

@@samscharp3367 I believe that Levrone did it cause he had 3-4 reps 500lbs on a video after his torn chest injury. So definitely believable

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

Lets not forget that Kevin tore his pec going heavy on the bench press

@StrengthUniverse

4 ай бұрын

@BruceWayne-ri4wr Dorian quite clearly states the weight and numbers of reps he performed on this video

🧙‍♂️🪄💨 It comes down to long-term sustainability.