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It's a shame Z didn't do a powerlifting meet in the early 2010s. Hard to compare their powerlifting numbers based on their stage of careers.

@StrengthUniverse

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Both are compared in Powerlifting at a similar age (29 to 30 years old )

@josephbloxham3992

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@@StrengthUniverse I meant at peak dominance in strongman. Z was strongest in the early 2010s.

@CarnalKid

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@@josephbloxham3992 There was really no incentive for Big Z to do powerlifting after he got involved in Strongman. That said, I think he would have had a shot at breaking the SHW total record in his prime.

@kevbulaj7259

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@@josephbloxham3992 exactly the Big Z lifts were way before he peaked. Big Z clearly more dominant than Hapthor in all these lifts 🦾

@StrengthUniverse

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@josephbloxham3992 I have compared there biggest ever lifts in the deadlift, Overhead Press and Squat (Squat event was always for reps). Big Z's deadlift is from 2011, Axle Press from 2010 and although the Squat lift is from 2014 it was his best ever performance in that event.

They are very strong. Thank you for uploading the detailed information about the strength.

@StrengthUniverse

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Thanks Joseph

Z is the goat because of his longevity and titles. Also unbelievable squat and overhead power. Thor though is 2018 was untouchable.

I love it whenever these two are in the conversation and their rivalry was priceless

Push/ohp day today..Great motivation seeing Big Z pressing

@StrengthUniverse

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You got this!

The different in deadlift is not so big. Big Z lift 440kg raw with stiffbar in a strongman comp and Big Z never compete in powerlifting in his strenght peak. His powerlifting results is early in his carreir.

@StrengthUniverse

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Big Z was 29 to 30 years old in the Powerlifting results shown in this video.

@tylerhavok8853

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@@StrengthUniverse still wasn’t his peak in size or strength, whereas thors was

@Nirsterkur

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@@tylerhavok8853 Did you know Thor did that meet after winning the Iceland's Strongest Man, the Europe's Strongest Man, the World's Strongest Man, the World's Ultimate Strongman and the Arnold Strongman Classic (an exhausting year) AND with only a 5 week PL specific prep (after 7 years since he last tried PLing)? You will see Thor's real peak in 2023 and onwards. Mark my words. 😉

@StrengthUniverse

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@@tylerhavok8853 Utter nonsense, had he peaked as a strongman in 2005 possibly not but in terms of raw strength; at this stage he had already won the Arnold Strongman Classic 3 times, finished runner up at the Worlds Strongest Man 3 times, Won IFSA worlds strongest man, Won IFSA European Strongest Man, Won Lithuania’s Strongest Man 6 times and been competing in Powerlifting over 8 years so where are you getting your opinion from?

@dummy9517

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@@StrengthUniverse he was better overall as he was younger, and also was able to to handle the pressure of a long competition, could recover better. All the Arnolds and WSM wins come as a mixed result of that. In terms of maximum power production and power output for one rep max, even though he was older, early 2010's was his best, and that's a fact. It's a shame he never did a comp in that time period. No need to yell at someone else's opinion/view just because it doesn't match yours. Moreover, everything that guy said is facts. Peak Big Z is better than Thor also in powerlifting, just that both peaked at different ages and are also from different eras. You can cry as much as you want

I think this shows the leap forward in static strength in strongman from Z's generation to Thor's, but also that Z competed far more frequently than Thor. Z did a mix of shows for 20 years, whereas Thor mostly did the top tier shows only once he was nearing his peak.

Great vid

Ótimo vídeo parabéns

Thor in 2018 would have beaten any strongman in history. But he was in his prime, the improvement in science tech, steroids etc will always benefit strongman over time. Big Z is on another planet to Thor over the course of his career when it comes to static. It also must be said that Thor and Eddie put themselves near death to get where they were whereas Brian and Z did it sustainably. Which is why they are in a completely different league to anyone else, except maybe Kaz

@dummy9517

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Only Eddie did, not Thor. Eddie had the smallest frame of these, he had to work and bulk the hardest of these to get where he reached. Static GOAT

Thor is awesome, and BigZ is the GOAT🤷‍♂️ thanks for another great video.

Hii mate. Can u make a video on the topic of your list of top 10 strongest men in terms of pure brute strength atleast after 1940s taking into account every possible factors. There are some interesting comments in your comment section of Nirmal and thatguyfrommars. They r giving their list of their picks with detailed analysis. Even I have commented on some of those posts. This is the most hotly debated topic among the strength fans.

@StrengthUniverse

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Wow buddy, that's a huge topic but definitely one worth a video.

@abhinavkumar547

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@@StrengthUniverse Thank u. I would wait for this video.

Thx

@StrengthUniverse

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Any time

It's very interesting just how close these two men were, I didn't think anyone other than Eddie hall came close to or beat Hafthor in 30 to 50% of lifts.

both are my favorite

I reiterate *Hafthor Julius Bjornsson is the Strongest Man to have ever walked the Earth!* 🌍🌎🌏 Thank you Strength Universe for the great series. Looking forward to part 2 as well. 🤞🏻

@StrengthUniverse

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Maybe; Part 2 will shine a bit more light on this...........quite possibly

@giovannicupello1977

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agreed ma man.

@simondean5227

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I've seen your lift breakdown for Thor, Eddie Brian and Z and my only gripe is that you list Eddie's best squat at 904 because that's all he ever did for one rep early in his career, but later on he was much stronger, doing 8 reps with 780 raw, no belt or sleeves even, and he beat Thor every single time they went against each other in squat so he should get more credit there

@Nirsterkur

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@@simondean5227 Eddie: 794*6 and 761*8. 903 is listed because it is (according to him) the heaviest he has ever put on his back and squatted. Still it's a claimed lift and there's no video proof. 2015 and no video of your PR? Disappointed. People peak in different times. Ed 2016/17 and Thor 2018/19/20. When you want to compare Static Strength, you do prime v. prime. For example, you don't compare 1979 Kaz with Don, 2002 Zydrunas with Mariusz or 2009 Brian with Zydrunas, right?

@joshgetty3988

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@@Nirsterkur you always get eddies bench wrong . Watch his video with J Maddox. He l says himself his heaviest bench in competition is 285kg back in 2011 in a powerlifting competition. It’s irrelevant what he’s benching in the gym

BILL KAZMAIER (275 weight class) squat 930 bench 660 deadlift 886 dumbell press 448 lbs with no suit not trying to beat record in the 80s imagine how strong he was

Peak Thor was the strongest human ever, across the whole range of strongman events. Big Z is the most decorated strongman of all time, i.e. the GOAT. I guess we could call Thor the BOAT, when remembering that greatest and best are 2 different things.

@Nirsterkur

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Agreed, also how about SOAT (Strongest Of All Time) for Thor?

@damiensmith9240

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@@Nirsterkur That's just the same as best of all time.

@Nirsterkur

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@@damiensmith9240 Sounds good. But I recon SOAT defines it better than BOAT which is quite ambiguous. What do you think? Also if we take 2018 Thor, many people say it's the best Strongman peak in history (no weaknesses across any event). Maybe for that, we can specifically use BOAT?

@damiensmith9240

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@@Nirsterkur I honestly think he was stronger in 2020, but we didn't get to see him in enough competitions.

@Nirsterkur

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@@damiensmith9240 *You are correct.* It's a fact that both 2019 Thor and 2020 Thor are Stronger than 2018 Thor. 2018 was the best accomplished in terms of accolades (no other strongman in modern era won *All* international competitions, participated in a calender year). 2019 he was unlucky he got injured during 2019 WSM, and had to recover. 2020 COVID fucked the competition opportunities and the Boxing transition further screwed it.

Do iron biby plz

Thor his level in 2018 he was the strong version of any wsm but the big z is the goat of wsm

@damiensmith9240

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Mariusz is the GOAT of WSM. You mean of strongman as a whole.

@anasabura3037

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@@damiensmith9240 but big z is 4 wsm and 8 Arnold mariusz is 5 wsm but he not like big z 4 and 8 Arnold

@damiensmith9240

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@@anasabura3037 read your og comment again. What did you state?

@anasabura3037

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@@damiensmith9240 big z he He has more awards and continuity

@damiensmith9240

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@@anasabura3037 Read what you actually stated in your og comment.

I'ma point out that both guys are using a wide stance for squat which is good for stability yet it gets accepted and recorded.

I loved that you included the PL-weights, prime Thor and prime Z is, well, meh. Im 99,99% sure that prime Z beats prime Thor in everything besides deadlift. So Big Z wins :) the 4xAustrian Oak back in 2015 is like, what in the name of strength?!

@StrengthUniverse

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Re Squat, if it's for reps I'd go with BigZ but max squat (to comp depth), definitely Thor. Deadlift to Thor but Bench press and all overhead events to Big Z

0:13 8xArnolds, everyone just FF

I love the comparison but l would have to take Big Z on this one don't get me wrong Thor is incredible but Big Z longevity and times he has won is one of the top in the history of the sport.......thanks for the video awesome God bless

@StrengthUniverse

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All fair points Charles.

Hahahahaha when I saw the results, I knew that the comment section would be FILLED with people incorrecting you lol You bring this on yourself 🤣 I left you a "like" to help make it worth it 👍

@StrengthUniverse

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LOL, I knew it too, must enjoy the punishment

@Nirsterkur

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Exactly. 😂 Some Zydrunas fans will jump to the sea when Hafthor breaks the Powerlifting ATWR this December.

Thor is Stronger, or in other words, he is THE STRONGEST EVER!

nirmal world strongest commentator for sure😂

@Nirsterkur

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Danke schön ! 😊

@dummy9517

Жыл бұрын

No, guy is the world's biggest Thor dickrider in reality

@Nirsterkur

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Still loving this comment. ❤️😊 Merci beaucoup.

Top overall in strength might be prime eddie hall. He had the lower body and overhead strength like no other. Prime Brian shaw could have gave him a run but he spent time training for events and not specifically strength. But my list would be 1. Eddie 2. Big z 3. Thor/shaw at a tie. Brian gets credit for his uncanny strength in grip and other feats that are hard to top. He also was an underrated bencher but didn't show it as much.

@giovannicupello1977

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Top overall in strength is prime Thor. I'm quoting Nirmal's breakdown of PEAK BRUTE STRENGTH: Deadlift, Squat, Bench and Log: in kilograms: Brian: [467.5], [410], [245*], [211] = 1,333.5 Eddie: 500, [405], 280, 213 = 1,398 Zydrunas: 440, [453*], [286], 228 = 1,407 Hafthor: 501, [460], 250, 213 = 1,424 in pounds: B: [1031], [904], [540*], [465] = 2,940 E: 1102, [893], 617, 470 = 3,082 Z: 970, [999*], [631], 503 = 3,102 H: 1105, [1014], 551, 470 = 3,140

the 460 squat from hafthor indeed looked absolutely fine his right leg kinda shifted inwards as he went up that shouldn't be a red flag though afaik

Big Z was like a children in his powerlifting meets, Thor was in his prime.

@StrengthUniverse

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He was 29 to 30 years old (2004 and 2005) which is around the same age as Hafthor was when he competed in powerlifting

@Nirsterkur

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In 2004 (B & D) and 2005 (S) where he did his PL PRs, he was 29 and 30. Thor just celebrated his 30th B'day, 20 days before his Powerlifting meet in 2018.

@SuperFredrik79

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@@StrengthUniverse 2004 and 2005 is not Z peak. Maybe 5-6 years later. 2018 was Thors best year in strongman.

@nicholasdimedio302

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Exactly

@Nirsterkur

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Also don't get mistaken from the Zydrunas PL footage Strength Universe has used here *which was from 2000.* He was bigger and thicker in 2004 where he Benched 265.5, Deadlifted 400 and in 2005 where he Squatted 425.5.

0:56 + 3:56 Big Z on a STIFF bar

@StrengthUniverse

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It might surprise you by Big Z's best ever deadlift on a conventional deadlift bar is 433kg, achieved at the 2012 Europes Strongest man

The discussion in the comments between the fanbois will be ridiculous. They're all really strong and within a decade or two there will be someone even stronger.

@StrengthUniverse

Жыл бұрын

Always the same problem when making videos about the more popular athletes.

@dragon81heart

Жыл бұрын

Haha truth! The haters and fanboys are all here today 🤣

@dummy9517

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Nobody anytime soon crosses Big Z's status of the GOAT and Eddie's peak strength, as for Thor, he is already battling Brian for the overall strength

1:25 not only me, but alot of ppl is eeeeager tooooo know big z max that day,....... "Im just gonna sTricKT press this 215kg, Im very happy"

Weird comparisions THH. Why the Axle and not the Log? Its the much more popuar lift with even pure Log-World-Championships. Also comparing a super young Big Z equipped vs Hafthor raw, dunno. Would use more max SM-events, like Atlas stones

@StrengthUniverse

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ALL overheads events in included in the percentage of wins, the axle press was merely used as an example. Big Z was 29 years old in the powerlifting meet which is virtually the same age Haftor was at Thors Powerlifting challenge so not sure how that qualifies as "super young". Big Z has only ever competed equipped over the course of his 8 year powerlifting career so there was no way to compare like for like. Atlas stones is a dynamic event not a static lift and will be shown in the Part 2 video

Big Z is definitely statically the stronger man. Just compare the max deadlift, Thor trained for a year, better equipment and perfect conditions. Big Z half way through a comp and in the rain with other competitors.

@Nirsterkur

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Thor won ASC 2020 and trained for 56 days until 2nd May. Even on planet Mercury it would not be an year. Didn't Zydrunas have better conditions when he did his standard height PR of 435 (959) during training in 2014? What are the better equipment? Rogue Calibrated plates? IronMind was the supplier for the DL bar in 2011 WSM and they are a top notch equipment manufacturer. Thor has Deadlifted more than 1000 pounds 13 times: 1105, 1058, 1045, 1043, 1041, 1036, 1003*2, 1026, 1025, 1014, 1011 and 1003. Zydrunas has never done it even once. His heaviest is 970.

@Dluger123

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@@Nirsterkur equipment such as deadlift suits, nutrition etc. Big Z was coming to the end of his best years as Thors begun knock 10 years of big Z and he would beat Thor in any static lifts

@Nirsterkur

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@@Dluger123 What research is there to prove DL suits from 2010s are better than 2000s? Also what nutrition advancements? Between those two decades, there is negligible to no difference at least in my opinion. 50s to 60s yes, 60s to 70s yes, 80s to 90's also slightly yes but from there onwards, there is no much difference. Macros, Micros and PEDs are all the same. Exercises and training philosophies were similar as well. Then why did Loz say when you lineup everyone in their prime, and have a competition, prime Thor would win? Do you need proof from me also on the same?

Great video. I love how u went deeper for stats breakdown. Though there r some problems in your comparison. 1. The powerlifting numbers of Big Z done in official powerlifting competition was from that time period when he was not at his peak strength. He reached his peak later when he was a full time strongman. Big z from 2006-2014 was much stronger than his version from 1998-2005 when he was doing powerlifting professionally. Thor's powerlifting numbers came obviously from that time when he reached his peak ie., in 2018. Surely, on paper Thor has better numbers in powerlifting but the things could be much closer had Z competed during his prime. 2. The percentages of win that u showed in these two athlete's strongman career in static events don't take into account the quality of opposition both of them faced for their wins in these events. For ex - Big Z for a good part of his career from 2002-09 didn't have to face the giants like Brian Shaw and Thor or Eddie hall who r some of the strongest human beings that ever lived whereas Thor had to compete against all Z, Shaw, Hall etc. It is inarguable that Thor competed in more competitive era than Big Z. 3. While taking their static lifts in strongman why didn't u include Log lift and i think Austrian oak would've been a good choice too for static events.

@StrengthUniverse

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Lots of people saying BigZ wasn't at his peak in 2005 based on nothing. He had been doing Powerlifting for over 8 years at this stage and competing in Strongman since 1996 (9 years). By 2005 he had won the Arnolds 3 times, finished runner-up at WSM 3 times, won Lithuanias Strongest man 6 times and won the Strongman Super Series. In Fact in 2005 Big Z won the Arnolds, IFSA World's Strongest Man, IFSA European Strongest Man. I think people have this misconception that big Z vastly better from 2009 onwards, because that was the year that he started to win the world, strongest man whilst overlooking the fact that he was winning equivalent competitions within a different organisations. The Winning Percentage allows them to be fairly compared based on the eras in which they competed, otherwise we could say that Bill Kazmaier wasn't as good because he didn't compete against Gary Taylor, magnús Ver Magnússon, Mariusz Pudzianowski and Hafthor Bjornsson. The fact is they can only compete against the best of their time. I compared one lift from each static strongman discipline in this instance the athletes best deadlift, best Overhead (example shown was the axle) and best squat. Would it have made any difference to the results replacing the Axle press with the Log Lift? It was merely an example of an event. The Winning percent contains multiple overhead events including the Lift Lift, Axle press, Viking Press etc etc.

@abhinavkumar547

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@@StrengthUniverse No people don't have this misconception based on Z's competition winning numbers. It's just that Z in the later years was much stronger than what he was when he was also doing powerlifting. Compare the weights he was lifting in static lifts in strongman during 2002-2005 to what he lifted during 2010-14 . It is clear that Z increased his numbers in every static lifts. It is not accurate to bring Z's competition winning numbers as this topic is strictly about the static strength and giving The examples of Z winning those strongman competitions during those years won't tell u how strong he was statitically. The issue is not about Z's age too as he was 28--30 in 2005 but that his strength peak was higher during 2010-14. All i m saying is had Big Z competed in powerlifting during that latter time period, he would have increased his numbers in all these three powerlifting lifts. Having said that, I still think by the same logic had Thor in 2020 ( because that was when he was at his strongest) competed in powerlifting he too would have posted even higher numbers than his previous one. That's true u can compete only against those who r present in your time so there is nothing u can do about it. Thanks for clarifying that u have included the winning percentages of all the similar types of lifts.

@StrengthUniverse

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@@abhinavkumar547 I don’t know that we can really say that buddy. Big Zs squat in 2005 425.5kg he never did a max squat to competition standards after this. His best competition Bench press was in 2004 at 265.5kg, his website claims a PR of 286 but again we don’t know when, if this was with a bench shirt, if it was touch and go etc etc. Big Z best raw deadlift was 2004 at 400kg, he would pull a best conventional deadlift on a deadlift bar with cali plates at the 2012 Europes of 433kg which is a chunk heavier but this was with straps so I think it’s very hard to definitively say he was stronger later. I think it’s fair to say he became better in certain strongman specific events and definitely his overhead but I’m not so sure about his strength in the three compound lifts.

@abhinavkumar547

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@@StrengthUniverse Big Z was stronger during 2010-14 than his 2003-05 version for sure. First look at his performances in static strongman events. He set the hummer tyre deadlift record with 524 kg in 2014 , compare that to his best hummer tire dl like in 2003 it was 401 kg. He also set the deficit deadlift world record in 2011 with 440 kg. In training Big Z has claim to have done 447.5 kg but under unknown circumstances, although big z has done 435 kg ( 959 lbs) dl raw with straps on stiff bar in training also. Had he decided to compete in powerlifting during his peak during 2010-14 he must have focussed more on deadlift without straps. I think he certainly was stronger in deadlift during 2010-14 than he was during 2004-05 even if the margin would be not much. His overhead pressing strength was much better during 2010-14 so that's not a question that his overhead press would have translated well in horizontal press ( bench press) and he would have done better . In the squat he has claimed to have done 440 kg for 2 reps raw with knee wraps. I definitely think it was after 2005 . All i m saying is that big z from 2010-14 had he competed in powerlifting competition would have posted bigger total and the gap between him and hafthor's total would have been closer. I didn't say that he would have beaten hafthor and come on u yourself has made a video speculating Big Z's total in powerlifting during his peak during 2010-14.

Didn't show big zs hummer tire lift that was over 1100 pounds I think that would have been a better comparison maybe

@StrengthUniverse

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it's included within the percentage of wins

@Nirsterkur

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Hummer DL is 15" off the floor compared to the Standard DL which is 9". Thor unfortunately never had an opportunity to do a Hummer DL in 2016, 17, 18, 19 or 20.

@dummy9517

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@@Nirsterkur then somehow Big Z's deficit barrel deadlifts are comparable to Thor's equipped deadlift. Strength Universe and Thor stans 🤡🤡

@Nirsterkur

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@@dummy9517 I don't like you criticizing Strength Universe. If you know more, why don't you make your own video? His videos are always unbiased and impartial.

literally comparing peak thor to what 23 year old Big Z, shows you how crazy Big Z really was

@Nirsterkur

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Nonsense. Z was 29-38 years old during ALL these lifts. The powerlifting footage used is not the actual footage. They are 4 to 5 years older, but the numbers are correct. Thor was 28-31 years old.

@StrengthUniverse

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As Nimal pointed out he was 28 to 29 years old in Powerlifting (clips in the video are substituded) and he was 34 to 38 years old in the Strongman lifts

@dummy9517

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Exactly, don't bother the Thordickriders

@Nirsterkur

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@@dummy9517 You must be so sad and hurt aren't you? 😂 Thor will take his numbers to the next level by this December. Let's continue the strength debates...

Hafthor without a doubt elevate the standard, but it is just bad that he isn't stand long enough to conquer the big time career of strength, and that is something of what Big Z had while also the most legends of all. Regarding he is winning or losing, Big Z just love competing, the only thing that can stop is injuries, nevertheless he is unstoppable

I think big z is so underated,the man is a true strength legend.

@93Beefcake

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underrated? if anything he is overrated literally everyone says he is the goat even though he lost many times to pudzian and was exceeded by others in peak strength like eddie or hafthor

@dummy9517

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@@93Beefcake 🤡🤡

@dummy9517

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@@93Beefcake "peak strength" and Thor in same sentence 🤡🤡

4.5 WSM winS VS 1 WSM win. CASE SETTLED. BIG Z no question. Also, never heard big Z cry (bi&*h) about judging. Big Z just crushed it and kept going.

Sry for not being patirnt

@StrengthUniverse

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Thank you

Thor is the strongest ever. Period. ❤

@NeonAnimeDreams

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Only when wielding mjonoir 😉

@abhinavkumar547

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@@NeonAnimeDreams Thor is probablythe strongest human being ever in the recorded history since the invention of barbells in terms of pure brute overall body strength.

@NeonAnimeDreams

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@abhinavkumar547 nah, his relatively low bench brings his total down to far, Eddie Hall is overall the strongest lifter.

@abhinavkumar547

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@@NeonAnimeDreams Hafthor has superior squat as well as superior dl with and without straps both. He has a powerlifting total with wraps of 2425 lbs with just 6 weeks of preparation and posting the then 8th highest total of all time. Wait and watch when he will smash the all time world record of powerlifting in December then u will not be here arguing about his position as the strongest. Eddie has never done the big 3 together and is just superior in bench press. Anybody can hit prs in their gym in the comfortable position.

@NeonAnimeDreams

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@abhinavkumar547 the problem is halfthor's max bench is like 120 to 130lbs less than Eddie's, unless his squat is more than 130lbs over Eddie's he's not going to have a higher total. Eddie can squat like what 870lbs for 7 to 8 reps? Probably a max around 940lbs? Halfthor isn't going to squat 1070lbs, he's probably not going to squat over 1000lbs. But I'll start paying attention, it'll be interesting to see how high he gets.

I hate that KZread keeps filtering my comments. I put so much time into them only for them not even to show up.

@J.c410

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Unless you use insults youtube doesnt do that (and it tells you anyway so you can still upload it). You probably kjst have internet issues wich makes the sync a bit messy and your comment just disapears. Your youtubers delete them after you made them cause you're being trashy

@thatguyfrommars3732

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@@J.c410 I made a long post about how find out who is actually the strongest and it involved a lot of numbers. I suspect KZread's filter picked it up as spam.

@abhinavkumar547

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@@thatguyfrommars3732 Hii mate u r on Instagram or telegram? Can u give me all the numbers which u posted here? It will be very helpful for me. Without talking about the numbers can u list your top 10 list of the strongest human being after 1930s here?

@thatguyfrommars3732

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@@abhinavkumar547 I'm not on either but you can see my line of thinking in my latest reply to Nirmal. As for strongest humans since the 1930s, in no particular order: Brian Shaw Hafthor Bjornsson Zydrunas Savickas Eddie Hall Paul Anderson Bill Kazmaier Don Reinhoudt Mark Henry Pavlo Nakonechniy Trey Mitchell I'm also partial to Vasiliy Alekseyev, but his power lifts reportedly weren't as good as his oly lifts, and powerlifters like Andrey Malanichev, Dan Bell, Ray Williams, Petr Petras, and Jesus Olivares, but all of them are 3 lift specialists and I don't know how strong they are outside that narrow field.

This video should have included the log lift too….

@StrengthUniverse

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comparing one of each lift is the fairest result, including an extra overhead would have made it bias. All overhead lifts are included in the Winning percentage

@Dluger123

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@@StrengthUniverse I understand what you are saying but I see the log as a bigger test of strength compared to the axle. Either way it’s a great video but it will always be hard to compare people from different eras. Also Big z’s power lifting was pre strong man Thors during

@StrengthUniverse

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@@Dluger123 The winning percentage is from there whole careers and thus takes into account the different eras. The powerlifting results are from 2004 and 2005. Big Z won his first Lithuania, strongest man in 1999 and by 2005, had won the Arnolds three times, had been a runner-up at the worlds strongest man 3 times and won the IFSA World’s strongest man

@Dluger123

Жыл бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse ok but 2005 vs 2020 is 15 years of improvement in equipment, nutrition etc. I’m not hating on Thor as he is no doubt one of the strongest to have ever lived but Z it the Goat for me especially statically

@StrengthUniverse

Жыл бұрын

@@Dluger123 the winning percentage takes the different eras into account.

Guero partisipar das competições por dinheiro e a aposentadoria da emancipação tenho 17 anos

@EleziaFerreiradeAraujo

6 ай бұрын

Sol homem e esse eo celular da da minha avo

Guero eu contra todos gue apareseraono forsa bruta tenho 18 anos 2 metros

Big z powerlifting Lifts where done at an early Stage of his career while thor was pretty much in his prime

@StrengthUniverse

Жыл бұрын

As is stated in the video, the clips shown are substituted from earlier competitions, but the weights stated are actually from 2004 and 2005, at which time he had been competing in powerlifting for over eight years and was 28 to 29 years old, at this stage had won the Arnolds 3 times and in the same year won IFSA World's Strong Man

Statically speaking, Big Z and Eddie Hall were the greatest.

@giovannicupello1977

Жыл бұрын

zs deadlift pr is 440 and squat pr is a claimed 440 double it seems (1rm ~453) and eds deadlift pr is 500 and squat pr is a claimed 405 it seems. even if you combine both of them, still they cant match thors 501 deadlift and 460 squat. lol

This is purely my subjective opinion. I believe that had they competed at the same age, Big Z would consistently beat Thor in static events including max weight. And I have suspicion that had Z, at his physical peak, focused fully on deadlift for a decant period of time, he could of potentially been the first to pull 500kg? However when it comes to more dynamic events, Thor takes it. Although their careers overlapped, there is quite an age difference which always makes a fully fair comparison tricky, but always very interesting!

@StrengthUniverse

Жыл бұрын

There are a lot of people seeming to get the wrong of the stick, maybe this is my fault for not explaining things clearly enough. For Powerlifting Big Z's best lifts were from 2004 to 2005 when he was 28 to 29 Years Old (he had been competing in Powerlifting for 8 years at this stage) and Hafthor's best lifts were from 2018 when he was 30 years old. that's as close as I could make it. I tried to account for the different eras in which they competed by showing the percentage of wins throughout their careers

@shepchester3567

Жыл бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse I think you always do it the fairest/unbiased way possible given the data available.

@StrengthUniverse

Жыл бұрын

@@shepchester3567 I try too

@shepchester3567

Жыл бұрын

@@StrengthUniverse looking forward to part 2. I'm assuming Thor will be more dominant, but let's see what you've got?

@StrengthUniverse

Жыл бұрын

@@shepchester3567 It is currently scheduled for Christmas Day

But could it be big z has an easier equipment for the axle press? It was lol when the hub caps and tires flew off. Edit: from how the weights looks being so fat then bookended by slim narrower weights.

Big z

This is no brainer. Hafthor is the Strongest ever. The real question is who is the 2nd strongest ever, is it Zydrunas or Eddie. It is really close between them.

@f4llenhite955

Жыл бұрын

Zydrunas and Eddie are both better than Thor

Wtf is wrong with people? Thor isn’t even close to the best ever. Brian Shaw, Z, and Eddie Hall all Kicked his ass.

@Nirsterkur

Жыл бұрын

We are talking about Brute Strength here. Not accolades. It's about who is the Strongest. *PEAK BRUTE STRENGTH:* Deadlift, Squat, Bench and Log: Brian: [467.5], [410], [245*], [211] = 1,333.5 Eddie: 500, [405], 280, 213 = 1,398 Zydrunas: 440, [453*], [286], 228 = 1,407 Hafthor: 501, [460], 250, 213 = 1,424 For Americans: B: [1031], [904], [540*], [465] = 2,940 E: 1102, [893], 617, 470 = 3,082 Z: 970, [999*], [631], 503 = 3,102 H: 1105, [1014], 551, 470 = 3,140 Key: Numbers which are within [ ] brackets are done during training or not sanctioned by a governing body and not infront of a credible referee. The * indicates that no actual 1 rep max was done but a double (2 reps) were converted into a speculative 1RM using a standard 1RM calculator. Below are only claims/ no video proof: - Z's Squat and Bench - B's Squat - E's Squat Therefore nobody can prove them with irrefutable evidence, and nobody knows whether they actually happened or not. Additionally, 1. Brian's Squat is not even source quoted, it's just mentioned in Wikipedia without any reference (where any unauthorized person could have edited). 2. Eddie also has a 300 (661) Bench but it's equipped. 3. Zydrunas's Deadlift is 1 inch deficit. However his best standard height DL is lower than that: 435 (959). --- If you are talking about Accolades, Zydrunas has most international wins. Thor has more international wins than Brian and Eddie combined.

Big Z was too young is these Competitions, to compare....

@StrengthUniverse

Жыл бұрын

What? he was 29 to 38 years old

@StrengthUniverse

Жыл бұрын

@@athlete7113 BigZ was compared in Strongman lifts from 2010 to 2014, they were his prime. He stopped competing in Powerlifting in 2005 at 29 years old and has never done a heavier squat, raw deadlift or paused bench press. The video also included both winning percentages throughout their careers. It’s a fact that ALL strength athletes will be at there peak from there late 20s to late 30s after this their performances will decline

@StrengthUniverse

Жыл бұрын

@@athlete7113 you are aware that the percent of wins takes the Full career history into account, not specific years so the era, and who peaked when makes zero difference. I highly recommend you watch Part 2 until the end of the video because it might make more sense

thor is hands down the strongest man to have ever lived. some people mistakenly think z is the strongest because of the number of wins he has, but when you take pure strength, prime thor is stronger than prime z.

@Nirsterkur

Жыл бұрын

You nailed it. 👌🏻

@ytsux9259

Жыл бұрын

Wrong! Thor's pressing power is pretty mediocre

@Michael20089

Жыл бұрын

Depends on your definition of strongest, on any average day of his life Z was much stronger then Thor. Thor has a very high peak but only for a couple years.

@ytsux9259

Жыл бұрын

I'd say prime Eddie was stronger than prime Thor because Eddie was strong everywhere, including all sorts of pressing (which includes benching).

@Michael20089

Жыл бұрын

Plus Z monsters Thor in pressing

Big Z is absolutely the strongest man to ever live. If people were pulling bigger numbers 10 years ago Z would have still pulled more and beat them.

Statistically Big Z Won!

Brian Shaw is overall stronger

@Nirsterkur

Жыл бұрын

Hafthor, Zydrunas and Eddie ALL are Stronger than Brian: *PEAK BRUTE STRENGTH:* Deadlift, Squat, Bench and Log: Brian: [467.5], [410], [245*], [211] = 1,333.5 Eddie: 500, [405], 280, 213 = 1,398 Zydrunas: 440, [453*], [286], 228 = 1,407 Hafthor: 501, [460], 250, 213 = 1,424 For Americans: B: [1031], [904], [540*], [465] = 2,940 E: 1102, [893], 617, 470 = 3,082 Z: 970, [999*], [631], 503 = 3,102 H: 1105, [1014], 551, 470 = 3,140 Key: Numbers which are within [ ] brackets are done during training or not sanctioned by a governing body and not infront of a credible referee. The * indicates that no actual 1 rep max was done but a double (2 reps) were converted into a speculative 1RM using a standard 1RM calculator. Below are only claims/ no video proof: - Z's Squat and Bench - B's Squat - E's Squat Therefore nobody can prove them with irrefutable evidence, and nobody knows whether they actually happened or not. Additionally, 1. Brian's Squat is not even source quoted, it's just mentioned in Wikipedia without any reference (where any unauthorized person could have edited). 2. Eddie also has a 300 (661) Bench but it's equipped. 3. Zydrunas's Deadlift is 1 inch deficit. However his best standard height DL is lower than that: 435 (959).

The statement that peak Thor was the strongest human ever is the most delusional and fake statement in strongman history, peak Eddie still is and probably always will be the strongest human in history. That raw static strength is miles, miles, miles, miles above Hafthor even with smaller bone structure. Only peak Big Z and probably peak Brain Shaw comes close, Hafthor is not even in the conversation

@alec_m50

Жыл бұрын

Eddie himself has a tattoo on him saying "World’s Strongest Man - Hafthor Julius Bjornsson!". Here is a keyboard guy talking about miles & miles... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Nirsterkur

Жыл бұрын

@@alec_m50 Brilliant! Roasted him. 💪🏻😂

That 501kg deadlift was a gym lift Big Z still had the rest of the competition to deal with. So in my opinion definitely goes to Z

@greigite5191

Жыл бұрын

crazy that it was a stiff bar deficit deadlift and still got wr

@Nirsterkur

Жыл бұрын

Thor has Deadlifted more than 1000 pounds 13 times: 1105, 1058, 1045, 1043, 1041, 1036, 1003*2, 1026, 1025, 1014, 1011 and 1003. Zydrunas has never done it even once. His heaviest is 970.

@greigite5191

Жыл бұрын

@@Nirsterkur but remember zydrunas did 440kg stiff bar 1'' deficit, thats probably just as hard as 453.5kg normally

@Nirsterkur

Жыл бұрын

@@greigite5191 Then why is his 9" PR 435 (959)?

@greigite5191

Жыл бұрын

@@Nirsterkur because he wasnt top shape and still had some left in the tank

Big Z > all others