In a interview Toriyama stated that the best cooks on earth are Guymao and YAMCHA. Guess whos getting the Whis special treatment

@krakart8181

Жыл бұрын

Holy shit

@lssjvegeta7103

Жыл бұрын

as weak as yamcha may have been in battle he is quite the beast in the kitchen. that's the only reason i let him live as he's a chef worthy of a saiyan prince

@bakionigeri6414

Жыл бұрын

​@@lssjvegeta7103 he may not be much on the battlefield anymore, but the ninja is a cook lol just as long as he contribute

@elliott20

Жыл бұрын

And during the cell games, yamcha brought towels! Cell: "And just like that, you have already contributed more than Vegeta."

@Eminster

Жыл бұрын

​@@lssjvegeta7103I'm tired of these stupid comments. Yamcha is not even weak. Are you high or something. Of course the guy with the Vegeta pfp would say dumb crap like this. Who would have thunk?!

Yamcha pledging to become a destroyer JUST because has nothing going on is the best plot point so far😅

@icyatlasartworks

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it's not wrong lmao, bro is literally the unemployed friend of the Z Fighters

@whynot-lv8dt

Жыл бұрын

@@icyatlasartworks I thought he became a professional baseball player?

@icyatlasartworks

Жыл бұрын

@@whynot-lv8dt let's be real, considering he's at least a planet-buster, baseball is more of a hobby than a job lol

@whynot-lv8dt

Жыл бұрын

@@icyatlasartworks Hey man, he gotta pay the bills somehow lmao

@icyatlasartworks

Жыл бұрын

@@whynot-lv8dt you're not wrong, man's gotta put food on the table, can't blame him for that 😂

i love how if a character in dragon ball needs to get stronger, the fanbase always comes up with insanely convoluted ways to achieve it meanwhile toriyama is like: uuuhhh i dunno they just use the dragon balls i guess :)

@BeanBoiYami

Жыл бұрын

Them the perks of being the creator I guess

@Bruh_but_why

Жыл бұрын

All things considered, Toriyama really got lucky with his writing ability in mind. His fan base somehow has a greater understanding of his own story lmao

@redactedoktor

Жыл бұрын

@@Bruh_but_why Akira (Toriyama)🤝(Hirohiko) Araki Long Term Memory Losss

@AzemSP

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think most of these are that convoluted though

@unspeakableflame420

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bruh_but_whyyep

For advancing the humans techniques yamcha could have ki claws when he uses wolf fang fist like how Goku black has a ki scythe. Also love this video and the one before.

@boneman9751

Жыл бұрын

Each person could have their own unique fighting style/transformations. Yamcha with his own “light speed mode” like dyspo and now your ki claw idea, he would absolutely be relevant. Him being a speed blitz character would give him his own dynamic like jojo stands😊

@ChristianGibbons777

Жыл бұрын

@@boneman9751 We need a fan game timeline What iF of this series where we have a playable Yamcha where you can do these moves! If only we got all this plus more in that Z Kakarot game that came out a few yrs ago!

@Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387

Жыл бұрын

Thatd be bad ass

@Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387

Жыл бұрын

On mondos cj Anel it shows cómics dbz fan made but look legit in one of them krillin is the last z fighter he becomes ans android and is on perfect cells lvl he trains goten

@cerberus6400

Жыл бұрын

@@boneman9751 old comment but you mentioning light speed mode and jojo made me think of Kars. WFF would be out there cutting beams and ki blasts in half like Kars' blade.

Yamcha going from a body in a crater to candidate for god of destruction is the glowup of the century

@sheonma6198

Жыл бұрын

Getting yamcha'd is now synonymous with getting ripped.

Yamcha solidifying his comeback arc by challenging Vegeta's destiny as destroyer is just too satisfying.

@kdia62

Жыл бұрын

I can only imagine instead of food hes looking for babes and love to determine if the planets get destroyed

worth noting: Tiencha can potentially use *multiple* Spirit Thunderballs, one for each clone. This gives him a move that's flat-out superior to Piccolo's Grenade attack.

@erikb7210

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god imagine Tiencha using the multi-arm technique to steer 6 Spirit Thunderballs at the same time, that would look so dope

@rkatano4426

Жыл бұрын

@@erikb7210 imagine it with his clones by god I would be shitting my pants, straight up constant stun lock

@veryepoc6949

Жыл бұрын

​@@erikb7210Yup

@SleepLessThan3

Жыл бұрын

Except they would all be weak since tien has the shitty version of clones where he splits up his power between them

@erikb7210

Жыл бұрын

@@SleepLessThan3 Nah man. This is a cool hypothetical where people who like Tien want to see him succeed, not the sad realism. Lol

Remember: Krillin invented the first (known) Sharp Ki, a force multiplier so potent *everyone who ever sees it immediately realises its value*. With training in a more esoteric way, not just STRONK but also experimenting with techniques, he could develop some very interesting uses thereof, the likes of which would change things significantly.

@tentaplayz3691

Жыл бұрын

wait what?

@stormallen1490

Жыл бұрын

@@tentaplayz3691 Think about it: all ki attacks are either waves, blasts, or beams. Piccolo technically has a drill beam, but Krillin came up with the disc, the only *sharp* ki attack. Everyone else was running around with various clubs and sticks, Krillin showed up with a sword.

@drk1215

Жыл бұрын

I think Krillin should develop a Destructo disc aura that emanates from his body. When he attacks people he can slice right through them with any body part that touches an opponent

@lonestarwolfentertainment7184

Жыл бұрын

With God Ki and Spirit Control I can see Krillin’s Kienzan being able to slice open passage ways into other dimensions like Goku Black’s Scythe.

@ShadeSlayer1911

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't even seem to be that hard to do either. Vegeta used it after seeing it used once. So did Frieza. Unless they also already knew how to do it. I would like to see Krillin develop a version that counters regeneration and even ignores ki barriers, possibly by using God Ki with it. Make it so that he can actively threaten opponents who are billions of times stronger than him, because he honed this ki blade so damn well. Buu regens from SSJ3 Goku's attacks, but Krillin comes in here to slice him in half, leaving the Majin wondering why he can't just put himself back together like he usually does.

Yamcha was the first Z fighter to learn how to control and move Ki it would be really cool if Yamcha combined the spirit fission technique with Spirit Ball and learned how to control another person's Ki so kinda like Blood Bending from Avatar the Last Airbender where Yamcha can control the other person's body via their Ki.

@freakplayer82

Жыл бұрын

Na man thats not Dragonball like

@mouse3872

Жыл бұрын

@@freakplayer82 what do you mean not Dragonball like? Ginyu literally swapped bodies Guldo could stop time by hiding his Breath. Vegeta can remove foreign energy from a person by just Touching them. Goku can read minds. Yamcha controlling someone's body by taking hold of their ki totally fits Dragon ball. It also makes him a little OP without being physically strong being able to Restrain a fighter stronger than him.

@tentaplayz3691

Жыл бұрын

Sooooo....Yamcha's partially responsible for the Bending Kamehamema? And the Twin Dragon Shot???

@tentaplayz3691

Жыл бұрын

@@freakplayer82 Bro your reply's not Dragonball like🗿

@mouse3872

Жыл бұрын

@@tentaplayz3691 Possibly yes I don't know about Beam attacks but Yamcha is the first to control ki with basically just his mind at a distance.

I posted this on the other video, but there’s actually a scene in the manga where Tenshinhan thinks to himself that he will have to master the basics of King Kai’s techniques and put his own spin on them if he wants to compete with Goku, and the fact that Toriyama never followed up on that has to the most glaring missed opportunity for him. You mentioned how he might be able to improve his multi-form technique, and that would’ve been the most natural thing to pair with Kaioken if he ever went through with his pledge to improve those techniques. I always explain it with a balloon. Think of the balloon as a fighter’s body and the air inside the balloon as their ki. The kaioken technique increases the air inside the balloon, but the downside is that the balloon is being over-inflated and could potentially pop. The multi-form, meanwhile, creates full copies of the balloon but is limited to the amount of air from the original, so you end up with multiple under-inflated balloons. If you combine these two ideas, you can use multi-form to create copies and then kaioken to fully inflate them without the risk of popping because they’re not actually being inflated beyond their normal limits. The two techniques essentially negate each other’s weaknesses. Tenshinhan could split himself into any number of clones and use kaioken to make them all fully-powered.

@zishanmallick9558

Жыл бұрын

So, if he made 2 clones and use Kai-o-ken x 3 those 2 other clones would be as powerful as him. Is that what you're saying?

Tien is ironically the one that might get UI if they kept him training at higher levels. Especially if he learned that healing techinque he'll be able to launch much more powerful tri-beams. Krillian he'll be able to use Evil Containment Wave without much burnout under the same conditions. Then he could mimic the control of Spirit Ball to control his Disks much better. Yamcha at this point would need to have learned The Spirit Bomb since he has the Ki control to direct it especially if he got those boosts. Also at this point they'll be able to spar with 17, 18, Buu and Piccolo so ALL of Earth's fighters would be floating around "God" levels.

@Gr0ot

Жыл бұрын

Krillin actually would. He created his own transformation as well. And has become one with himself. So…nah. Krillin would also be the fastest with God Ki. And also Hakai energy. There’s a reason he was Goku’s rival.

@hugokussj3531

Жыл бұрын

Tien would unlock the UI the fastest yes, he is just the better in terms of technics. For the more powerful "tri beams" (i prefer to name it kikoho), i dont think that this is possible. I mean : the kikoho is litterally the user putting the amount of ki that he want into an incredible attack. The only way to upgrade it is just to have more ki, and he will increase it naturally. Yamcha, him, would have reached they level with another way, i dont exactly know how, but he always had as problem a lack of power, but try to compensate it by the use of unusual styles. Withouth the lack of power, he would be extremly strong. For Krillin ... Well he is the worse terrian. He have the power habitually, but he is not very good in terms of technics, and here that is what make the difference.

Roshi in manga had a small run in with imperfect UI against jiren so its definitely reachable for humans or well any race actually.

@only1sn1not1taken

Жыл бұрын

Roshi is also around 350 years old and was taught concepts similar to that of UI ever since he was a teen.

@TheLastGarou

Жыл бұрын

​@@only1sn1not1taken That's because those "similar techniques" are a foundational aspect of ALL human martial arts. UI is stupid. Not because it's an "ass-pull", but because literally every Z-Fighter from OG Dragonball would have already known and surpassed the canon explanation of its function. You train until thought leaves the equation. And then you train until you can think about what's happening while your body operates on autopilot, so you don't get blindsided by a clever opponent that tricks your reflexes with a feint.

@only1sn1not1taken

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLastGarou I think it's dumb being treated as a transformation because it's just like an athlete being "in the zone".

@OHGAS-rt5uc

11 ай бұрын

​@@only1sn1not1takenisn't UI an technique rather than a trasnformation?

@only1sn1not1taken

11 ай бұрын

@@OHGAS-rt5uc I wish but they definitely don't seem to treat it that way.

I always Imagined Yamcha to have Ultra Ego and Tenshinhan to have Ultra Instinct. They sorta are like an anti-vegeta and anti-goku

@osirisjojo6876

Жыл бұрын

I think Tien can wield both Ultra Ego & Ultra Instinct and could attain a new destroyer power that no destroyers knew existed which absorbs other destroyer's Haikai.

@tentaplayz3691

Жыл бұрын

@@osirisjojo6876 hmmm

@DanielMWJ

Жыл бұрын

And they shall call it "ultra superego".

@Nathan-ug1oh

Жыл бұрын

@@osirisjojo6876 would be way to hard to obtain and wouldn’t fit plot, i think ultra instinct would be the best fit and even that would be way to hard to obtain maybe at the end of dbs it would br cool for him achieving it

@osirisjojo6876

Жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-ug1oh maybe maybe not but I'm tried of goku getting everything while tien gets nerfed to the ground and treated like a pushover. Tien trains every day, hard-core training at that who should be so op that he would be their ace in most situations. A genius fighter inventing and mimicking techniques plus the skillest (and jackest) warrior on the crew that deserved way more respect and attention than the sayians period. In the Manga, goku used haki on zamas so he is capable of using it and ultra instinct.

That Tien transformation with 4 arms looks badass.

I always had an idea where Yamcha pairs the spirit ball with the wolf fang fist where each hit places a spirit ball on the victim and when Yamcha hits him away then the spirit ball acts like a normal one before exploding on the final impact

@fictionalspirit4194

Жыл бұрын

This is pretty similar to a move in a fan comic I saw and I thought it was pretty awesome there, honestly I do like the idea of the humans utilizing more open techniques like the Genkidama to create their own mixed techniques. I mean they are martial artists after all, mixing up different moves and techniques shouldn't be new.

@somegamer4071

Жыл бұрын

I'd imagine something like Yamcha throws the spirit ball, if he hits his opponent they get trapped in the lightning trap and now he can throw them around inside a spirit ball but it requires a lot of ki to move a person depending on their ki

Damn I want to read a manga where the Earthlings did keep training. Do you think Orange Piccolo will be seen when Super comes back?

@BeanBoiYami

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. They’d be insane not to include him. I do think that when Super comes back. They’ll animate both the Moro and Granola arcs and then move from there. So if this is the case it might take a little bit of time before we see Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo in Super.

@ibrahim1869

Жыл бұрын

@@BeanBoiYami Hey I'm not sure if you answered or not but did you account for Krillin and the humans training with 18?

@Megaman-2407

Жыл бұрын

i mean unless they FORGET about orange piccolo then i dont see it not happening

@tentaplayz3691

Жыл бұрын

or course

I'm amazed with your creativity with the Earthlings. But there's something else we can't forget and that's the ultra Divine water that Goku drank during the King Piccolo Saga. That gave him the power to tap into his great ape form. What if all the humans drank that water after King Piccolo was killed? Then what if the humans trained with Kami during that 5-year period between Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z?

@vergilmontiero2558

Жыл бұрын

Along with everything else mentioned in these 2 parts, that would be interesting.

@grimmspectrum1547

Жыл бұрын

Tien is not an earthling he's from a race called the triclops.

@matthewbreytenbach4483

Жыл бұрын

@@grimmspectrum1547 From what I understand, the lore blurb that mentions that (blurb singular I believe) only says he's descended from the "Three Eyed Clan" and gives no info beyond that.

Mystic form would likely be much higher than a 30x boost. Elder Guru's boost for Krillin was a 50x boost, equal to an SSJ transformation (though it took a bit of time for that power to fully materialize). Elder Kai's potential unlock ritual was said to be much greater than that. I personally think for the humans, the mystic form should be at least double the Elder Kai's boost. Also, in my head canon, I think the spirit ki training would be incredibly effective in enabling the humans to surpass the x20 multiplier. Given that the spirit ki training would give them incredible mastery of ki, and the kaioken is a technique wholly based on ki utilization/manipulation. So the greater their mastery of ki control & manipulation, the higher they could increase the kaioken multiplier.

Holy shit my boy yamcha gonna get a hakaishin form. Also you're the first dude with a good mic under 1,000 subscribers (Hope your channel grows exponentially.)

@BeanBoiYami

Жыл бұрын

I would’ve given him the form if I could actually find some fanart of it😞 Thank you for the compliment

@kimanicarter3634

Жыл бұрын

Yamaha needs that God of destruction form

@kimanicarter3634

Жыл бұрын

Krillin needs his own version of ultra instinct like (Ultra Potential)

@kimanicarter3634

Жыл бұрын

I would watch this DragonBallEarthX

@Bobplushie666

Жыл бұрын

A what now

It was never mentioned in the manga that people had to be the same or similar height for the fusion to work, they only need to have similar ki

@BeanBoiYami

Жыл бұрын

We’re talking about the dance right? Because if we are then yeah they need to be relative in size and power. For evidence check Dbz ch 275 page 6 and you can see Goku states the size thing.

@d2k.xo5996

Жыл бұрын

@@BeanBoiYami and also they said it in an episode too

@lonestarwolfentertainment7184

Жыл бұрын

That’s only with the Potora Fusion, with the Fusion Dance they need to be of Similar, build and species.

The idea of the humans being stronger than Piccolo for the majority of Super is so weird but also very cool.

This is all on point bro amazing So glad you did DBsuper You just created an alternate universe with The earthlings

8:50 lol I already know where this is going but what people need to understand is that healing =/= regeneration. Using the Kaioken whilst healing won't allow you to automatically reach crazy unlimited multipliers with absolutely no drawbacks. Let's say their limit is a x20 Kaioken. Yes, actively healing oneself while using the Kaioken would effectively nullify any and all strain that usually accompanies and is synonymous with said technique and allow them to hypothetically operate at their highest respective multipliers for an indefinite duration. The problem begins when they try to go over this limit. The healing factor will permit them to go a certain degree higher. They might be able to manage a x25 or even a x30 Kaioken! But from here onwards, the higher the multiplier used, the higher the strain and it all comes down to the resilience/determination of said fighter mentally/physically etc. as the case may be. The usual rules of Kaioken thus come back into play here. This essentially brings the strains of their previous maximums (20x etc.) all the way down to zero and treats it as a base Kaioken. (So actually, yes, typing this I now realise that a x40 Kaioken is completely feasible) Healing is regeneration on a molecular level. The cell repairs itself, damaged cells are rebuilt and even the creation of entirely new cells takes place (a case of the latter going into overdrive is a prime example of regeneration. This is also a principle of mutation/cancer cells). The repaired cells mean repaired, new and healthy tissue which then connects with each other and this heals organs, limbs, systems etc. as the case may be. Healing is basically slow regeneration (no this isn't Minecraft💀) While regeneration is basically healing on enchanted steroids. These are the limits of healing. Enter regeneration. Heal an impaled character, they survive and they are alive, however, the gaping hole still remains (they may not necessarily be wounded though). If the character regenerates, suddenly they are full and no longer fighting on an empty stomach (lol Buu and Piccolo, we're looking at you guys👀👀) Heal a *disarmed* character and their wounds merely close up. A character that can regenerate, however, will get completely brand new, healthy and fully functioning limbs. Healing replenishes health Regenerating rebuilds body parts This is why Senzu beans clear up cuts and bruises but don't take care of scars and dismemberment. Healing is partial. Regeneration is complete. Let me put it another way. Healing is like downloading a program: 1%....2%....5%....10%....25%......50%......75%......85%....90%...95%....99%.............100%....................Installing.......... Regeneration is absolute. Like binary. It's either a 1 or a 0. It's certainity. 1. Not 1/2. Not probability and fractions and decimals like healing. It is not partial it is WHOLE. 1/1. So in summary: Healing Kaioken increases your physical threshold and provides a means to further increase your Kaioken ability, while the Regen Kaioken is the ideal one to go for. This provides that hypothetical infinite boost and that would make one OP to say the VERY LEAST. Get Piccolo to learn it. I ACTUALLY *LEGIT* DON'T KNOW WHY HEEE OF ALLL PEOPLE HASN'T LEARNT IT YET!!! wowwwww....🤦🏾‍♂ Kaioken w/ Healing is good but the reason why it is inherently limited is because the multiplier will get to a stage where it essentially can't keep up with the rate of the Kaioken side effect. In other words, the strain from the Kaioken is inflicted faster than the host can heal themselves. So Kaioken with healing is x2 of Kaioken _without_ healing. Hmmm...of course this does all come down one's healing factor🤔🤔......wait!😳 what if they...had an *infinite healing factor!!* 🙀 That would literally defeat my whole 2 hour comment, lol GOODNIGHT before this man dies of overthinking😂😂😂😂😂😂

Bruh! You dont know how much I needed this video. I been thinking the same things for years. Now I just need to see this in drawn in a book. I'd back that project all day.

I feel as thought the humans of dragon ball are some of the most underrated characters of the franchise and deserve more opportunities to grow. Great video!

@grimmspectrum1547

Жыл бұрын

So you want krillin to get more opportunities to grow stronger as yamcha has completely given up on being a fighter and Tien and master roshi aren't human which leaves krillin as the only one who has kept up with training and even then he only does it in his spare time now because of his wife and daughter.

@razor_ramon_

5 ай бұрын

​@@grimmspectrum1547master roshi ain't human?

@grimmspectrum1547

5 ай бұрын

@@razor_ramon_ nope he is an otherworlder like his sister lady baba the old crone sitting on a crystal ball.

Another missed opportunity: I mentioned on your previous video how Multi-Form can be used for training purposes, this could accelerate their training by a factor of 3. Each earthling creates 2 clones. the clones fight while the original meditates. That's physical, combat, and spiritual training happening simultaneously. They could even pair their clones off against each other. And this could accelerate the rate at which they approach Ultra Instinct as well, learning to channel ki and restrain it inside the body instead of losing it in aura displays. I would argue that Krillin and Tien's training would lag behind, because of their family and life commitments. But that using the Chamber of Spirit and time three days a week (M-W-F) for several years would more than make up for it. Another thing everyone forgets: ROSHI. He mastered a form of energy control and can multiply his power at-will, though not to Kaio-Ken levels. Whenever he needs to fight a powerhouse, he does that bulk-out transformation. That's something he could teach the others. The final thing you missed out on was acclimation training: Goku trained with Gohan in the CoSaT by just turning Super and staying there, getting their bodies used to being at that level. Frieza did the same with Gold-form. So if the Earthlings practiced Kaio-Ken and Mystic-Form acclimation, until they could maintain it in their everyday lives without strain, their bodies would acclimate until their base power would rise towards the minimum they could achieve while powered up. Further, they could use the Yardrat healing technique on themselves while training with Kaio-Ken, to heal their bodies as they train and strain, letting their base non-transformed bodies grow stronger with exercise much faster and without needing downtime to recover.

@matthewbreytenbach4483

Жыл бұрын

I don't think Multi-Form works that way. Every time we've seen Piccolo training with his clones it was by sparring with them himself, they don't transfer experience the way Shadow Clones do or give their physical gains back to the wielder.

Loved it. Only nitpick is how often you toss the humans in the Room of Spirit and Time. Remember that the Saiyans age much slower as far as staying at the peak is concerned. The humans being in their 40's is gonna impact their strength more. Speaking as someone who works out 4-6 times a week in their 40's. Still loved this and the previous video.

@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets

Жыл бұрын

Maybe God ki will slow their aging enough to compensate?

@_YashSawant

5 ай бұрын

Isn't Bulma always summoning Shenron to make her look Younger BY 5 YEARS!!💀, and also Saiyans remain in their Peak till 60-80 Years after that when the Old Age starts they Age Rapidly and their Average Life Span was 70 Years probably due to fighting and stuff before Planet Vegeta Blew Up, it seems that Saiyans don't have a "Middle Age" they go from Adult to Old directly and it wouldn't be hard to summon Shenron and return them to their peak forms

Tenshinhan is the original creator of the taiyoken (solar flare). He also missed and opportunity by not choosing to enter the room of spirit and time at the cell saga actually all of them did. Krillin should perfect his kienzan and be able to control it's direction making it follow opponents. Strange how they stoped developing they humans.

Wish there were like a super human transformation for humans, maybe they should ask shenron

Something I always wondered in the Buu arc. Gohan taught Videl how to fly, she knows that he and the Z fighters can shoot ki blasts, how come she never asked anyone to teach her that technique?

@grimmspectrum1547

Жыл бұрын

Because Videl has always been a hand-to-hand combat person do to being trained by her father mr. Satan in karate, judo or whatever other martial Art's he could.

@huzaifahahmed4303

Жыл бұрын

@@grimmspectrum1547 well that's fair. But she should've asked any of them to teach her some other techniques, like say (I forgot what this one's called) the ability to move around so fast that it looks like you're teleporting (the one they do in combat, not instant transmission obviously) that sounds like it would be a useful tool for her fighting style, though it might need a lot of training, but still.

@grimmspectrum1547

Жыл бұрын

@@huzaifahahmed4303 it's called an afterimage and it only happens when you move so fast that you appear to be creating copies of yourself, Videl is not fast enough to use that technique so she can't learn it and She may not have enough ki to use any projectile type atks as they've said flying doesn't use that much ki unless you want to fly fast which uses much ki.

I would have The earthlings show up one day after talking a break from learning UI Just too realize Master roshi has been secretly training with whis and has figured out his own variation of UI. “Turtle Style Ultra instinct” finding a middle ground between what he showed against jiren and the ladder. Maybe even granting him a physical augmentation between max power and regular shape. Maybe even exhibiting a contained aura around himself similar to that of containing God ki. Where anything that interrupts the ki the user immediately reacts. Autonomous Turtle instinct

@sebagomez4647

Жыл бұрын

roshi got soemthing that whis said "its similar but a far cry from that technique (UI)" but he did it alone without god ki and without any guidance. now he has seen it I hope next time there is conflict on earth and nobody can help roshi goes and appears with silver eyes that would be so ridiculoisly hype

@cookieaddict5956

Жыл бұрын

Thats just fan fiction territory

I would have loved to see Krillin being in a three man squad with his wife and brother in law with really good support abilities.

The only thing I'd add is that the you can now make an argument that they could obtain a unique Potential Unleashed form as they master and evole Ultimate/Mystic. Good video.

In this scenario, I do think the Broly fight would occur. Except it would occur late into the Heeters arc. Cheelai and Lemo are bounty hunters at the end of it all, so it would make sense that they would discover Broly/Paragus and bring them to the Heeters as a way to get into good graces with future rulers. Though this could also lead into a Broly/Paragus v Granolah feud until the three manage to sit down and talk, maybe. All outcast by what they knew, and all. And with the knowledge of Saiyans still existing, this would eventually put Granolah, even if not the rest of the Heeters, on the path to fight Goku and Vegea. This time, with Broly as possible backup. Whether that leads into the Dragon Balls being discovered is up in the air, but it would effectively turn into Gogeta and Tiencha vs Granolah and possibly a normal SSJ Broly (skipping wrathful and not unlocking Full Power unless someone specifically merks Paragus). This would occur by the Multiform being used to buy Goku and Vegeta time to fuse, with Krillin helping, and once returning, Tien and Yamcha would then fuse as Gogeta and Krillin will buy more time. And since Tien and Yamcha wouldn't think to IT to Piccolo for it, Granolah would see it and maybe try to do it on the fly with Broly. Possibly even succeeding because, let's face it, Dragon Ball characters don't interrupt others charging up. Eventually this leads to Granolah and possibly Paragus dead, Broly mingling with the other Saiyans as normal on Whis' planet, with the Earthling trio present. While this would bring the rest of the Heeters knocking, and possibly armed with the knowledge of the Dragon Balls to make the wish for Gas, it would likely end with Gas' loss and death and the Heeters getting folded. The story then progresses into Super Hero as normal.

Meanwhile Chiaotzu just doesn't exist. He had more drive than Yajirobe at least. Sure he was weaker potential wise but I still feel he could have improved enough to fuse with Krillin if he kept up as well.

@trustmeits610pm2

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Chiaotzu is the odd duck of the team. He has psychic powers, which are a completely separate thing from Ki and Magic. Yet he's also the weakest physically. Such a unique source of power to draw from gives him an interesting path to follow... but he also basically has no zero mentors to teach him anything. Being psychic is very rare. Guldo from DBZ and Hit from Super showcase just how deadly psychic abilities can be... but these rare powers seem to always go hand in hand with laziness. Even Hit, who is the strongest user of such a power, is over reliant on his one trick. Psychics never seem to reach their full potential.

@sebagomez4647

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@@trustmeits610pm2 because if they did there would be no fight at all. but yeah their potential is insane af.

So fusion is only their base forms not their maximum transformations. So for example base Goku + base Vegeta *100 would be base Vegito and then he could use the SSJ transformations.

@BeanBoiYami

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So from what I was able to gather. It’s the fighters in their most potent forms. That’s what I was able to find. Idk if there’s any other evidence against this. So it goes SSJ3 Goku + SSJ2 Vegeta *100 would be base Vegito. I can send you a link to a video that goes way more in depth if you want.

You know the humans unlike the saiyans would suffer from old age. They would have to wish to be young again at some point or Whis might just have a de-age beam knowing him.

I really like your theory on the earthlings, I was always disappointed with the fact that they after awhile most of them were practically just background characters in comparison to everyone else. It would be awesome if we saw thing actually happen to some extent

Great video, but that Yamcha/Tien fusion had a wicked receding hairline!

@trustmeits610pm2

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Hahaha. I love how goofy he looks.

Personally, I would have given Master Roshi some spotlight for the Humans training for Ultra instinct as if Krilin did lose up to before Roshi does wouldn't he catch Whis's speech on Roshi's movement? 2ndly if we want the humans to train under Whis, have the Broly fight, and the like. I would've replaced Master Roshi for Frieza. Would make Goku's push into Ultra Instinct territory more on a remembrance trail for fan Easter eggs and make it more genuine least in my opinion. 3rd I would put more influence on the Dodon Ray, Kienzan, Wolf fang fist, and Spirit Ball in a new typical Yamcha fashion. Outside of all of that tho. You're videos on the earthlings have been fantastic and I genuinely enjoy the prospects.

why is this more fun than goku and vegeta getting stronger, ima need a hour version of this

Honestly I think you did very well with this. One of the few things you could have done to make them stronger was let's see you decided to have Yamcha become the candidate for God of destruction that's all fine and good but either in the last part or in this part you could have had one of the Earthlings move for the role of Supreme Kai train under Shin and the Elder kai. Where it's not just okay now you've got the ultimate form you don't need to worry about the guys anymore the guys have pretty decent techniques including the creation of things from locks of material and clothing up to entire planets. Honestly I probably would have given the Supreme Kai training role to either Krillin or Tein because he used to being alone and studying stuff like that Krillin because I could see him taking his family to live on a plan of the cars or if he can't take them specifically to a planet of the Kai's I can see them building his own Kai planet for them.

THANK YOU! I love this series!

Tien straight up deserves ultra instinct with how badly he's been disrespected as of late

I hope you will continue this What If in future Arcs. This is actually made me rly sad, bcs the Earthlings were badass. I know Vegeta is more like a MC now, but theres a reason why people love Side characters like Piccolo Gohan Vegeta even some still Tien and Yamchu.

@BeanBoiYami

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Yeah I do plan on updating this every 3-5 arcs, but I’m also thinking about tackling other characters like Goten and Trunks. Also thinking about dropping a video about what forms would the Earthlings get if they wished for it. Something like what Piccolo did in the most recent movie.

My biggest concern is how aging affects the earthlings in these vids... Saiyan's stay in their prime longer than a human does, that's why they can use time dilation stuff to get a leg up in training

@NanoNovaBlast

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They can use the Dragon balls to wish to be back in their prime and if for whatever reason they start this training now they can use the time chamber for like a month real time so they are aged back where they started

Honestly Tien seems like he'd be the first character to actually master Ultra Instinct, Goku is a fighter but he isn't a monk. He has willpower and strength but not mental stability and wholeness.

Nah, the thing is, Vegeta's Yardrat Training is extremely important as it let Vegeta train his spirit, which is definitely essential to attain Ultra Ego.

This was fantastic, you did a great job and these were really good points. It got me thinking and Id like to offer one more option for the humans to power up, enough to close the gap with the Saiyans: Bulma, Gero and Cell. As I understand it the super Saiyan transformation isn't just pushing the bodies power past it's limit like the kaioken, it's temporarily evolving the body to its next stage, like a digimon, which comes with a much higher limit. So Bulma spent the entire android saga learning how Geros androids work, it's entirely possible she could find some way to transform or evolve the human body to have a greater power limit like SSJ while still remaining a biological creature like Cell. That's basically how the Saiyans gained the ability in the first place. Also with your point about the healing technique, that's another thing Bulma can do since Gero was able to clone namekian techniques and abilities, and we saw even stuff like UI can be cloned with Moro. And I know it's not canon but we saw kaioken×100 is basically super Saiyan, I would definitely believe that one of the human Z fighters, or maybe even Maron if she becomes a fighter, could figure out how to maintain that power and even use it as a full transformation technique, if they could just reach it once.

UI for earthlings are possible albeit weaker version. humanized / primitive version of it since Master Roshi manage to do a similar/same principle of it with years of training without the time chamber nor god ki on other hand, they could learn how to harness spirit ball/bomb as boosters Krillin can learn spirit sword (kinda like destructo disc but on his hands), Yamcha can learn dragon or/and soaring fist and Tien for more stronger and faster tri-beam (tri-beam is slow to charge but if this is improved, it can be deadly)

@Gr0ot

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Your headcanon is that it’s weaker.

@ernie9538

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​@@Gr0ot huh?

Absolutely love these videos man, it's so interesting to watch

this was pretty good, i wouldnt have it any other way, you earned a sub

I'd say this is looking accurate though I would of put more into Yamcha as the god of destruction candidate, since that could of led to Ultra Ego being included given that he'd be training more with destruction energy to fill that promise.

The one and only thing that would suck is the simple fact they're human and most likely will speed up their dying process from over training their bodies. For the record they will never meet ssb levels but they can reach ssj3 levels with respect unless the humans hack with the dragon balls or some other method to give their bodies longevity.

@joeyharry3043

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They could use the herb that master roshi uses to extend his life. Also they could become an android to counter act over training their body.

@andrehooker3229

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@@joeyharry3043 so true smoke them herbs 😂 but wouldn't them becoming androids would hinder their abilities to learn skills.. Nvrmnd I take that back because Krillin taught android 18 how to throw the destructo disk.

Dayuum this is much better than the canon for me lol. Not as good as the one with Bardock squad surviving and meeting Goku though. That shit was fire. Lmfao the earthling trio just turned the Moro arc into the fight back meme literally chasing him down haha.

Loved this two part videos All had great points.

They can also wish to be younger like bulma. Since it’s not fair that Vegeta and Goku can live twice as long as humans.

@GrimTheDestroyer

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I was thinking that, because all these time shenanigans can cause their body to age faster and become weaker

Thanks for the video!

My head canon was always, saiyans were bred to be warriors. So complex techniques not originating from their home planet like kaoi ken and yardrat came easier to them, and perhaps to them only. Humans could learn techniques created on their home planets but not much more. So this would cap them at base level saiyans in super. Thematically, saiyans were aggressive warriors, and humans much calmer, meditating and learning to control their ki. The interaction of these 2 breeds created the strongest warriors, ie z fighters. Also explains Saiyan half breeds having insane potential. Also explains namekians being strong guardians sent to other planets and piccolo far surpassing by interacting with humans.

Roshi and Popo had been teaching Goku the principals of UI since he was very young. Goku having a 30 year head start is no joke.

this is for surean overstatement of the 3 bois power but its still pretty awesome

This is a very good vid laying out what could have happened to keep these characters up. It's fine to have Goku and Vegeta still being the easy top two the level gaps wouldn't be so egregious if thing where done this way and would give them even more agency showing they're capable of taking out big bads too. Sadly tho it is at a point where whatever power up they'd get to be as nearly as strong wouldn't feel as satisfying as seeing their consistent growth.

Solid analysis

Thanks for the videos man :)

Great video man. Very interesting and in depth 😀👌

@BeanBoiYami

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Thx man glad you enjoyed it

I've had this theory with part 1 and 2 of your videos for the earthlings for a longass time, nice to see someone else thinks about this scenario lol

Bro thank you, we asked and you delivered

Appreciate these videos

@BeanBoiYami

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No problem. I plan on exploring more characters in the future

@jason15212

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@@BeanBoiYami just cool to see that there are fans that still care about these 3 outside of played out jokes. All are good characters just have already been fleshed out and served their purpose to the story. Wish Toriyama wasn’t so forgetful in his later years writing the series

you want things you missed? - Ultra divine water, it should give them a 40% to 50% power boost. - they can ask Shenron to create a (Super human) form for them.... he pretty much created a new form for Piccolo so his should still be possible. - Yamcha will NOT focus on UI, he'll try the same thing Vegeta is trying, the power of a god of destruction, because he's a Canidate for that role. - magic.... wev'e seen the power of the supreme Kais, Buu, and Moro with their magic, so atleast one of them might go that path. - ask Shenron for a power-up, both Piccolo and Granola did something similar.

Something to consider: Goldo, of the Ginyu Force, could manipulate time. They might have written that off as a singular ability. But when Hit uses it, and describes it as a technique he can improve, that means it's not a racial thing or a unique mutation. That makes it something LEARNED. That means other people could learn it as well. That'sa technique they could pursue. Time manipulation.

@jayclearmen411

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Nah bro it is a singular ability & unique mutation simply because No one else has the ability 1 an 2 the ginyu force is made of powerful mutagenic freaks.. think about it. recoome etc where all abominable psychos an were far from normal in terms of ability an power.

@mitchhaelann9215

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@@jayclearmen411 Except Hit shows it's not. It's an incredibly rare ability, but not a singular mutation. Others *can* do it, nobody else figured out how and Goldo kept it a secret.

@ernie9538

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​@@mitchhaelann9215 Isn't hit over a thousand years old though?

@dylanzlol7293

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Then, how can they learn that ability? Like, who's gonna teach it?

Tien might be better suited for Ultra Ego over Instinct, so he'd be in Toppo's GoD mode instead of Omen.

Just the possibility of them having taken nearly every opportunity to train allowing them to have packed up Moro like a UPS driver is crazy to think about

A Fusion of tien and Yamaha juiced up with mystic and kaioken versus Jiren would be an AMAZING fight

Damn i enjoyed this

I love these what ifs. It's what i would've liked dragon Ball to be in the first place.

You forgot their is psychic powers & magic powers in the DBZ universe. Those are new techniques the human fighters could learn and make them stronger. I love this video, so many missed opportunities in the human fighters

The only flaw i see on this hipotetic scenario is that humans might not have as much time as the saiyans =(... at the end of tournament of power they would be around 50-60 years old, taking in account all the years of training in the time dimensions.

"Tien would turn down becoming a candidate for god of destruction cause he's been like suuuuper busy lately and just has kinda a lot on his plate right now. Ya know?" Tien gets shafted even in fan stories lol

Great video. I really wish this had happened. It would have made sense even better.

Wouldn’t Spirit Control training on it’s own allow the Humans to tap into higher Kaioken Multipliers since the better one’s Ki Control is the better they can use the Technique?

@BeanBoiYami

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So my thoughts behind it was yes it does, but the only problem was the strain that would bring. So that’s why I found another way around that issue

A knock-on effect that went unmentioned here is that, with their power rivaling that of the saiyans, they would actually become viable training partners for Goku and (if he sucks it up a bit) Vegeta, pushing them farther along as well. Really, even the mere fact that the humans could rival them would push Goku and Vegeta to train harder than canon.

@dylanzlol7293

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So. >they train efficiently >goku and vegeta start training with them >now the saiyans become even stronger, meaning that the other z fighters will become stronger as well, creating a loop where both the humans and the saiyans get constantly stronger

this is video is weirdly satisfying

Bruh with the existence of ultra instinct being known to the Z fighters, it’d make so much sense to have them all train under Wis and be relevant again in future arcs. It break my heart to see the cast have to step down due to overt saiyan hype

Man i want a side storys and panales use all this information to make this fighters get to these levels even if not canon .proving that the z fighters not falling behind and improving.

Make a manga or story surrounding this…everyone seems to love this

Only thing I don't like is them having mystic. Mystic is known to be a power up exclusive to Gohan because he is special therefore they should not be able to learn that specific technique.

Through intense mental and spiritual training, Tien achieves enlightenment and awakens his triclops gene. During his travels, Yamcha undergoes rigorous training and stumbles upon a mystical wolf amulet that bestows upon him enhanced power and magical abilities. Krillin sustains severe injuries but undergoes a transformative upgrade as he receives a cutting-edge cyborg enhancement from Capsule Corp.

Oh fuck yeah, you made a follow up! Subbed

We have Dragonballs which can make any jerk the strongest in the universe but we cant have a plot where someone wishes that earthlings have the same growth rates as sayans? Yeah it is the Goku and Vegeta show but having the others keep up would make everything more interesting.

That Tien and Yamcha fusion hairline is more back then Coryxkenshin after a 9 month break

Man love these videos. I grew up watching OG dragon ball and I love krillin and yamcha and hated how they got left behind, which made no sense because they didn't do any training that the saiyans got. Ya the saiyans will still come out stronger but I don't see why the humans didn't do it as well. As for kiao-Ken YES! I was thinking same thing with healing techniques.

I seriously hope that with the shine Trunks, Goten, Gohan and Piccolo are getting we get to see more of the other characters, im not saying that they have to rival the main cast but being used more like in the Moro arc would be awesome. Tien, Krillin and Yamcha all showed insane potential in the begining, even more than Goku who is a saiyan then they dropped the ball hard on them, it's like Piccolo and his other abilities that even Krillin had to remind him of them in the movie. Like why can't start from the basics like Goku did? They had plenty of chances, the excuse was always "humans don't have saiyan genes, that's why Goku could drink Kami's water and learn Kaio Ken" we literally saw how Roshi could tap in the principals of an angels technique without any god training, humans are more than capable. I don't want the humans to have UI, UE or PU/beast but you can give them something, a transformation for humans doesn't really make sense imo so lets just use what we have. Make them drink the sacred water so they can unlock more hidden power, Dende can't unleash their potential and Piccolo just did it so i don't want to re use that concept. After the water, make them train with Kami so they can learn Kaio Ken (i would say that since Goku can only go up to 20x give them a maximum of 10x), in the games Krillin had his "unleashed" version of himself as a transformation, making him a pseudo Gohan so i think that in the manga should work. Then you can have Yamcha for example join the patrol and in a mission to Yadrat he learned other techniques from them aside from spirit fission and instant transmission. Make Tien use the kaio ken with his four arms form, then make him use that form to boost solar flare and his tri beam. That way you have each character being different from eachother and useful for the story. Yamcha with yadrat abilities, Tien with a more spiritual approach and Krillin like a pseudo Gohan. Pretty organic if you ask me and opens the possibility for Yamcha to get a transformation of his own under the yardrats.

I'll be honest, if there is a fanfic out there that follows your idea.. I'd read it. It sounds like an amazing storylinr, one that brings the sidelined characters back into focus.

In the original Dragon Ball TV series before super and before Z, there was a mystic water that Goku drinks that multiplies his strength, but in order to get it you have to be pure of heart or it will kill you. I don’t know whether or not all of the humans could drink this, but I think at least one should. If you don’t remember which episode he in the tubbier human with the sword traveled with look like in ice or crystal maze and got separated from each other, and the cave started to make him hallucinate his friends and family to tempt him to stay.

There's one problem with this theory and is that every time we need to freaking call Goku there's not a cell phone around him

Akira Toriyama needs to watch this could learn a thing are two

Makes me happy to see the Earthlings getting this strong. But Piccolo being one of my favorite characters REALLY needs to be at least SSB level or above, easily. Maybe Toriyama forgot but Piccolo is 25-50% god AND has the broken ability to merge with other Namekians

Now this has got me curious about how strong a Monster Type Earthling could get. Specifically, Bandages the Mummy. Imagine if Bandages decided to become a Z fighter and do everything the fighters did in your what if, with Bandages getting the Mystic form and learning mastered ultra instinct. I could even see Bandages make his own techniques incorporating his ki to his bandages.

The only thing I in this video I take issue with is Krillins disregard for his family. Besides that I really like it

Ngl the yardrat outfit is by far my favorite, I would looooove Yamcha with it as his regular