Shall we release the EXTENDED cut of Ellie's singing?

@user-oq2je1vy6d

Ай бұрын

YES PLZ!!!!

@ferpoeta13

Ай бұрын

What are you waiting for?

@Chester_Kitten

Ай бұрын

Yes!

@user-kr9df1wg1h

Ай бұрын

Yesssss!!!❤❤❤

@marblestoday4526

Ай бұрын

They aren’t as cute as everyone thinks!

You guys were mentioning Susan Twist in such an official capacity that I honestly didn't realize until this video that that was the actress' _name._

@AuroraButterflyx

Ай бұрын

Ikr, I bet Russell found the name in the wild and knew he had to get her involved in Doctor Who somehow XD

@BloodyAngel88

Ай бұрын

xD Davies probably saw her last name and said "Holy shit, I know what to do"

***my theory from the first time we saw Ruby*** Jenny (Clone) is Ruby’s mother…making Ruby The Doctor’s Granddaughter. So this is season 1 = The Doctor is traveling with his granddaughter again. Plus she looks just like she could be the daughter of Georgia Tennant. It’s quite the coincidence, isn’t it?

@locutusuk68

Ай бұрын

I've been saying the same thing, The Doctor clearly knows who is leaving the baby because he has a look of surprise the first time he's there, that would make him check in on Ruby from time to time leading to she 1st episode starting as his normal check in.

@CineScarborough

Ай бұрын

​@@locutusuk68Weren't there also rumours of Georgia Tennant returning? I remember everyone thinking she was coming back for the 60th but she never did.

@DrWhoFanJ

Ай бұрын

@@CineScarboroughShe did return for the 60th anniversary. _The Artist at the End of Time._

@locutusuk68

Ай бұрын

@@CineScarborough There was a rumour about her being on set, but the way this first season and the Christmas special were filmed back and forth rather than one episode at a time, her scenes could have been filmed all at once early on.

@BloodyAngel88

Ай бұрын

Dammit, why must you make so much sense? xD

I appreciated the Once More with Feeling reference.

@MizunoSenshi

Ай бұрын

I know, right! I smiled immediately!!!

With so much emphasis on The Doctor & Ruby's status as orphans, it makes sense to have a Twist as part of the proceedings.

@AnonUnlimited

Ай бұрын

Also it would just be sweet to end it on a note where they may not know what planet they're really from but they do have family with e/o and Susan (along with their chosen+adopted families)

A Once More With Feeling gag? Fantastic!

@douglaswolfen7820

Ай бұрын

I know right! It's like everyone has forgotten that Buffy ever existed as a show. It was brilliant to see a deep reference like this

@staceyzitto606

Ай бұрын

Whenever I hear the words “I have a theory”, I burst into song!

@BOTHthosearetaken

Ай бұрын

@staceyzitto606 that it's a demon! A dancing demon! No something isn't right there...

@RobG001

Ай бұрын

And Anya hated bunnies in it.

@chrisleneil

Ай бұрын

@@BOTHthosearetaken🎶I’ve got a theory some kid is dreaming, & we’re all stuck inside his wacky Broadway nightmare! 🎶

I can’t help thinking that Mrs Flood is more likely to be Susan than Susan twist…..

@mikaelastefkova

Ай бұрын

The sentence sounds funny, with all the names 😄

Interesting with the Susan Foreman theory considering Susan was explicitly called out in the second episode of the new season, when they time travelled to 1963 and said she lives just over there a few dozen buildings over.

I feel like if Susan is returning, Susan Twist is a red herring. He's cheeky enough to make Susan Twist play Susan, but he's also clever enough to know that we know he's cheeky enough to do that.

@BloodyAngel88

Ай бұрын

It's a big ball of timey whimey stuff in the end. lol

@cheyennemyers-wd3pn

11 күн бұрын

see they keep bringing up the granddaughter thing in the first few episodes after ruby road i fully thought that she was a weird regeneration of susan that started as a baby

With the show finally mentioning Susan again in the Devil’s Chord episode, this theory has a lot of merit

@justignoremyusername3251

Ай бұрын

Yes!! I came came here to say that lol it would actually make a lot of sense (or maybe we're all just dreaming a little bit too much 😅

I think that could work, and it opens up the Valeyard (who i assumed might be Twist or the Mother) for being the secret big bad. After all, who would the Toymaker fear more than an Evil Doctor?

In 1994, there was an edition of a spoof documentary series on BBC radio called Whatever Happened to...? One episode of this was dedicated to Susan Foreman. Now, it's not canon in any way, but RTD would have been more than aware of it. I suspect his comment was a reference to that rather than any great reveal regarding Ruby. I'm happy to be proved wrong, though.

There is always a twist at the end

My theory isn't about Susan, but I think Mrs Flood's identity might have been taken over by a Zygon. Perhaps even a particular Zygon with a fourth Doctor scarf?

@Cassius335

Ай бұрын

Somewhere in-between the scene where she drops her bags and the ending? I dunno about Osgood, but I could buy Flood having been replaced by someone...

@LosloTypical

Ай бұрын

man how did you even arrive at this

@ScottEvil

Ай бұрын

@@Cassius335 Yes. I don't know if all aliens know what a TARDIS looks like.

@geoffroi-le-Hook

Ай бұрын

and a Seventh Doctor jumper

@ScottEvil

Ай бұрын

@@LosloTypical It's odd that she would be confused by the "police box" to knowing what a TARDIS looks like. Additionally, Zygons are still on Earth and a shapeshifting alien makes sense. I concede it might not be Osgoode.

I understand Ellie’s stance on River but I still genuinely want nothing more than for Jonathan Groff to secretly be playing River. How did they get out of the library computer? How did they get their regenerations back? Honestly I don’t care, I just want to see how angry it would make everyone.

@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852

Ай бұрын

They download into Rivers own sonic lipstick. which then makes its why to the TARDIS , then uploads to the TARDIS, which then with timey wimey bullmess, uses the tenth doctors regeneration energy and samples of Rivers DNA, bulids her a new body. Boom goes the dynamite.

Susan Twist, susan twist? Does she have a brother named Oliver.

@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852

Ай бұрын

a sister named Ronda?

@BloodyAngel88

Ай бұрын

Nah; just an aunt named Watta.

@josephcooter5763

Ай бұрын

@@BloodyAngel88 That's a good one.

Unless they bring back Carol Anne ford for an episode and show her regenerating into Susan twist she’s not Susan, Carol Anne is still alive and would be playing Susan if she came back

Not going to lie. That Bunny reference from Anya in Buffy may have made my day. 😉

@staceyzitto606

Ай бұрын

💯!!!

I think the biggest argument for Susan is that she doesn't have a complicated backstory. A new viewer can get up to speed in just a few minutes. Doctor's granddaughter - left the TARDIS because she met a boy. Not much else a new viewer needs to know about her to jump into a New Who Susan story. RTD did something similar in 2005 with the Autons. They weren't vilians with a big backstory. They were the "I kinda remember them" baddies. In 2005, I was among the first Americans to watch Rose (we won't discuss how I had a copy within 90 minutes of it's UK premier). No one was confused by not knowing who the Autons were before that day - there just wasn't that much backstory to tell.

@AnonUnlimited

Ай бұрын

Right it's a pretty intuitive backstory. You can get the gist of it without explaining too much. That's why I'm not attached to the idea that they can't bring her back bc it might confuse the audience. I don't think anyone will be confused by the main character introducing a family member. That's super normal tbh. Certainly easier to get on board with than 'thousands year old time traveling alien' , so I'm not worried about it. I do want her to come back. Esp now when CAF is still here to pass on the baton. I wouldn't want to miss an opportunity while we have it to honor that character. Esp when the story this season will be mainly about the leads not knowing where they come from/not knowing their birth families. It would have two sides of the adoption story too bc the doctors would probably be resolved by making his own family and Ruby's would be resolved by finding out about her birth family.

@KyleWitten

Ай бұрын

@@AnonUnlimited And look at the other Classic Who baddies that RTD brought back the first time - The Macra? A name drop of the Sense Sphere? You didn't need any prior knowledge to follow the stories. They were so obscure that even Classic Who fans could be forgiven for forgetting them. I think that characters with deep backstories are unlikely to appear any time soon. With new international distribution thru Disney+', there are hopefully new viewers on the horizon that won't know about any except the most well known characters that have long since entered the cultural zeitgeist. That means (probably) no Rani or other characters with significant backstories.

The dystopian London we see in the trailers from the Devil's Chord reminds me a lot of the state London's in in the Dalek Invasion of Earth, the story Susan first exited the show in going to live in a Dystopian London. There's also that shot from the same episode with the Doctor and Ruby in their Beatles attire with the Doctor illuminating the place up with his sonic screwdriver under a wooden staircase. I've seen people theorise it's Totter's Lane. It seems like quite a different setting from Abbey Road studio and if the Doctor's meeting the Beatles in 1963 then who was also just round the corner at Coal Hill School in that country in that year?

I am tempted towards the sentient Tardis explanation more, but anything happens in this show. American sci-fi franchises pick over every little piece of imagined history and continuity. We just make it up as we go along! If a piece of the jigsaw doesn't fit, just keep hitting it with something until it does.

Rewatched Church on Ruby Road last night paying special attention to Mrs Flood. She was very upset by the TARDIS when she first saw it. But then it demateralized in front of her. And then she was all smiles every time she saw it after. Argument for Susan. She only knew the TARDIS's one shape after the Camelion Circuit malfunctioned in 1966. She may not know that it can still change shape within that pre-set police box mode. So - what if it is Susan and she didn't recognize the TARDIS because it wasn't the same shape and size it was the last time she saw it. She was upset by the reminder of her past. But once she knew it was a TARDIS, she became almost giddy about it.

THANKS for this, Ellie! (Even the singing :)) I really want Susan to be involved and before this video she's my vote for Mrs. Flood!! I *love* the idea of Millie being Ncuti's great-grand!!!

The tardis key being able to summon the tardis was established in Christopher Ecclestons series, it's how he got the tardis to materialise inside the church when rose broke time tryna save her dad. Matt Smiths use of it was the second time we've seen the doctor use the key to summon the tardis, if I'm remembering rightly of course, fairly sure David Tennant didn't use that trick

In a surprising "twist", Carole Ann Ford returns as Susan, in the final episode, and regenerates herself, becoming Varada Sethu's character

Love the song, my wife and I make that joke about the phrase 'I have a theory' all the time! You guys are definitely cray-cray (which is why we love this channel) but the theory does have merit to it, and would be an interesting twist. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Forgetting that Susan was in the five Doctors in (then) modern Doctor Who?

@generalilbis

Ай бұрын

Maybe the gang at WhoCulture considers Susan's appearance in "The Five Doctors" to be something that doesn't count because of when the Time Scoop pulled her from the Doctor's timeline? I've watched the 20th anniversary special, but I forget if dialogue by Susan indicates if she was pulled from a point in time before One leaves her on 22nd century Earth or after.

@danieloneal7137

Ай бұрын

And an older Jamie appears in The Two Doctors with his memories intact. Continuity isn’t always the show’s strongest feature.

@tompearce5418

20 күн бұрын

​@@generalilbis Susan was visibly older than her teenage self in the Five Doctors. It's unclear whether non-Time Lord Gallifreyans can regenerate, although Jenny and River definitely could.

I think 95% of the time the new 'misterious character ' is always the Master.

And here I was thinking you'd compare the facial features of Susan and Mrs Flood

@TBrincefield

Ай бұрын

Same here.

Regarding the idea that Susan can travel in Time but not Space...gee... Which initial of TARDIS is missing from TRIAD? Hmmm...

@BloodyAngel88

Ай бұрын

S TRIAD. All the letters are there.

S TRIAD being an ambigram of Tardis is cool, but let’s not also forget that a triad is a music theory term for notes spaced a 3rd apart, like how C Major chord is C and E and G

I am thinking initials, RS, Ruby Sunday, River Song, could Ruby be river's child? With the doctor? Or with someone else?

@roguequakewitch

Ай бұрын

This is my theory as well!

@mollycblaeser

Ай бұрын

Good point!

I think its pretty clear Susan Triad knows what a tardis is and can also time travel as we had her pop up in wild blue yonder and church on ruby road. I dont think susan triad or mrs flood are Susan Foreman. I think S Triad is the meddling monk because the un-named woman in the piano scene in church on ruby road is clearly susan twist and she asks ruby to play gaudete, which is a 16th centry song of worship. I also think mrs flood is the meddling monk as we have seen two monks at the same time before the in the two monks, one mistress audio book. I think the hand that picked up the tooth at end of the giggle was S Triad and we are going to get a kinda two monks, one mistress storyline, but jinx will be playing the masters part. I think the ultimate big bad will be this "the boss" character beep the meep mentioned and ruby was set up as a trap to lure in timelords as "the boss" seems interested in two two hearted creatures

can't beat a bit if Buffy

Susan Twist appearing in different roles across spacetime reminds me of Clara's Impossible Girl storyarc. I don't think that means that she is Clara, but the parallels are weird.

Would be hard to explain the DNA results not picking up that she is not human. I would also point out that River and the doctor had a lot of years in that final night plenty of time to have a few children "oh look your cot not seen that in a very long while" She had seen it before!

Mrs Flood is Daughter of Mine (toymaker probably allowed her to escape) or the Doctor’s Daughter…

@BloodyAngel88

Ай бұрын

I can't see her as Daughter of Mine. I mean, where would he find her (first of all, since she travels throughout EVERY mirror in the world)...and even if he did...he liked sowing chaos, but even he's not THAT stupid

Can’t wait for season 1!!! 🥳🥳🔵

All the tardis keys are accounted for, Clara tried to destroy them. All seven of them

Just putting it out there. Sydney Christmas from BGT to be a future companion?

Love the Buffy reference

@chaoscommander2458

Ай бұрын

It must be bunnies!

Could also be the trickster considering the “song inside of rubys heart” is similar to the tricksters theme

If you need to explain how Susan travels through time, you can say she became a Time Agent, like Captain Jack. It might connect to the guy who is suspected of being a Time Agent shown in the season 1 trailers.

As far as I'm aware, Carole Ann Ford was the only actor in attendance at the premiere who wasn't in either the 60th specials or 'Tales from the Tardis', which suggests she might be in the new season.

I think Ruby is the entity that the Toymaker didn't dare challenge, or at least some representation of it.

Bringing back Susan would majorly confuse the new global audience they're going for

@andrewgrabauskas

Ай бұрын

No more than, say, the Toymaker tbh- it's pretty likely they're be some form on explanation about her to get folks up to speed

@quintuscrinis8032

Ай бұрын

Depends on how it is handled. But it actually makes sense if the theme of the new season is the doctor's heritage. After all what really is the difference between heritage and descendents especially when talking about time travel.

@stumbling_

Ай бұрын

It’s no different than them bringing back any of the other ex companions… they can easily introduce her via introducing her to Ruby.

@danieloneal7137

Ай бұрын

I don’t see the problem. If they can bring back former companions, UNIT, and legacy bad guys, no reason they couldn’t bring back the Doctor’s granddaughter. It’ll just take a couple lines of dialogue to explain that they used to travel together a long, long time ago and she eventually got left behind. New audiences will already know from the specials that the Doctor’s appearance and personality change occasionally, and that he’s a lot older than he looks. I’m not saying it’s going to happen, but there should be no difficulty explaining it to new viewers if it does.

@TheLukecottle

Ай бұрын

I highly disagree. When I began watching in 2005 I wasn’t confused when the doctor said he was th least of the time lords, or when the Daley popped up in Daley and the doctor knew who they were. I also wasn’t confused in season 2 when the cyber men popped up or when Sarah Jane did.. Or in season 3 when the master turned up, or in season 4 when Davao’s turned up. Or the countless other times the series have brought back old characters. RTD is good at including older characters in a way that is accessible for newer viewer while also being good enough for the older fans to be like “aha”. Plus the new global audience need to be aware of the OG series the same way the revival fans needed to be. Plus it gives them like it did for me, the excitement of finding out there a back-catalogue of years of amazing who content. ❤

My theory: Ruby is the Doctor's greatest fairy tale. Blond companion who's name starts with the letter R, with both Ruby and Rose having the motive to go back in time and meet their parents at a church setting. Except this time, she's made more relatable for the doctor. An orphan and possibly even time lord + blood relative to the doctor if she is the daughter of his grand daughter with the whole DNA scan scene. Just before the Doctor using superstition at the end of the univserse they gave us an example of history being changed with gravity into mavity, along with Ruby's disappearance against the goblins, and later london's history without music. In the second special the 14th doctor says gravity and corrects himself to mavity once Donna questions what he said. When Ruby steps on the butterfly he is confused as to what happened and even still looks confused as they are walking into the Tardis until he chucks it to the new controls and "silly me for forgetting". I think the laws of the universe changed at the salt event and they've left us multiple examples how an event at one point can change the laws and memory of everyone in the universe. In space babies we see physical snow appear when the doctor is deep in thought about the day Ruby was left at the church. Just like the snow, the Doctor has gained the ability to almost will things into existence subconsciously and has somehow created Ruby Sunday. Multiple times they've had little moments where they slow everything down and talk about the "Ruby Sunday from the church on ruby road" like the prologue of a fairy tale. Ruby is the Doctor's greatest fairy tale. I think we will lose Ruby at the end of the season (seeing as she is leaving) when the doctor realizes it's because of these universal law changes that the beings that are like the toy maker are able to run rampant. But he must do so knowing he will have to erase the existence of his perfect fairy tale like companion.

They only way we could have River Song played by someone other than Alex Kingston (barring hand-wavey timey-wimey stuff) would be for it to be in her personal timeline before Let’s Kill Hitler. Personally, I feel that character has had a full arc, she also doesn’t have any regenerations left, and there would need to be a really good reason to bring her back.

It must be bunnies ! I was not expecting that :3 What about a BuffyverseCulture channel now? haha

@1701Bec

Ай бұрын

Buffy ups & downs

I have a theory that Susan Twist is “The One Who Waits” that Maestro warned them about. The doctor also says “theres always a twist at the end” or could be a different meaning or coincidence. We’ll have to see

Susan's son in Big Finish is played by Paul McGann's son Sonny McGann, if Russel uses this in the show that's certainly an excuse to get Paul back too! Especially as Alex is now travelling with the 8th Doctor in the time war series, talk about coming full circle.

The Buffy reference. Chefs kiss!

Calling it now, Susan Twist is Susan Foreman, Susan had a daughter called Ruby, Ruby is the Timeless Child...and Ruby had her mind wipped by Division...and Mrs Flood is the Timeless Child's (Ruby's) guardian...😮

@finntalisker7113

Ай бұрын

Woah this is quite good

@samuellangford

Ай бұрын

@@finntalisker7113 it’s tough for me to sleep at night, this is what I think about… I have OCD…🤦🏻‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣

Now that The Devil’s Chord is out, I feel like you were really onto something

now im going to have i got a theory stuck in my brain, not that it ever left.

I agree Ellie. Definitely Susan related

I usually refrain from liking a video until the end. In this case I will make an exception for the excellent Buffy reference.

ngl, I still think Ruby Sunday is a restaurant's way of making Strawberry-flavoured sundae sound special.

hey ellie...i think your theory is spot on.. it makes alot of sense and, come on, susan twist and she turns out to be the twist in the show..very cool... good work..let the river flow..peace..rocky

susan drops off baby then regenerates after walking away. like when 10 knew he'd die. not knowing what the new susan might do to a baby she left ruby to be adopted on earth safe

Would have loved for Carol Ann Ford to return. To have someone old enough to be Susan just aged but not her would be rude. But damn that lady was definitely cast for her name knowing we gonna speculate and go crazy

Since River gave her regeneration energy, she can't regenerate. Also she's in the library, and we've seen her death. She'd have to be a version from before her death.

Susan Twist played the Comms Officer Gina Scalzi in Space Babies episode

Anya - once more with feeling.

Ruby Sunday, could be the daughter or granddaughter of The Ponds? If the transporter, does a copy of the Doctor, every time; when he was trapped in dark tower. ( That part of the doctors story was set in his mind and that was a mind scape. Which means the Doctor, is a creature of energy, which brings up the master!? Which brings us back to Ruby, who is her neighbour? And to top it all, from our point of view, it's a story. As for Susan , his "daughter" she probably called him grandfather, as a name. Like Ace and others called him Professor? Any way, as The Maestro said. Timey wimmy. Sorry "Spoilers" as River Song would say. I figure Susan is River Songs daughter, but that gets confusing.

Amo este canal os sigo desde hace mucho y soy fan de la serie desde 2007! Muchos saludos desde España Me ha encantado esta teoria 😮

I joined in with the whole bunnies sing along. I'm going to have to watch Buffy from the beginning. Again. 😂

Lucy Saxon: On Christmas Eve night in or around the 2000s, Lucy was released from her cell by her prison's new Governor, and brought to the basement, where a cult of the Master's loyal servants was implementing a ritual to restore him to life. What if Ruby is actually the daughter of Lucy, Who some how had the masters baby, and One of the cult members managed to drop off the baby at the church, this would explain the black robes.... Or I could just be over thinking things lol.

NOT ELLIE SINGING BUFFYS ONCE MORE WITH FEELING

Ruby is her own mother, I'm calling it. When she was dying in, 'boom', the snow stopped. This has happened before on 'twice upon on a time', because of the doctor refusing to regenerate, causing the paradox. In this case for Ruby is that if she dies there, she will never be born, causing a paradox in that moment. She may be the embodiment of life. Also, i think "the one who waits", is death itself. Hence, why the maestro was so confused about why "the oldest one" was there at the night of Ruby's birth 🤔

Maybe Susan escaped the gallifreyan genocide with her daughter, and left her in a time and place (2004, right before the end of the Time War, in a way) where the Doctor could protect her. But Susan was angry because the Doctor abandoned her, and now she has to abandon her daughter too, and also the doctor couldn't stop the Time War or even warn her about the genocide. Susan had to constantly fly across time and space to escape the "cellular genocide" and use a "pocket watch" system to spare her daughter this fate. Where is the pocket watch? Maybe not in a real object, but inside Ruby's theme song!! (it's completely crazy but I had fun imagining that theory)

If Disney had creative input Ruby’s father would be Davros or possibly just Darth Sidious.

Maybe Susan being a genius Time Lord created a vortex manipulator to jump around Earth's timelines.

(Long ramble incoming) One problem with this theory; the ninth doctor mentions early on that he knows all the timelords are gone. He would've sensed if one was still around since they are telepathic, especially his granddaughter. Regardless of when and where they are. But it is completely silent in his head. The only way, and this would need some explaining on RTD's part if your theory proves to be true, he wouldn't be able to sense Susan being on earth and yet Susan remembering enough to be able to time travel and using the Tardis key as a beacon, is if she used a modified version of the Chameleon Arc. Her biology would have changed (no telepathic abilities) but she would have retained her memories. Or, she forget but is unconsciously drawn to the Doctor now in a way she wasn't before. Maybe she recently stumbled upon her fobwatch containing her memories? Or the Doctor's fobwatch which he threw in the depths of the Tardis as the 13th Doctor, and the Tardis somehow expelled in where Susan could find it? Timelord fobwatches do after all whisper to either the original owner or whoever finds it. Anyway, with him now having mentioned that he doesn't know what became of Susan is however a good point. As far he knows, she was stuck on earth and the Time War didn't happen on/effected planet Earth. And yet he wasn't able to sense her after it had ended. But with the supernatural and magic now having retroactively been introduced to the world since 1925, maybe a timelady stuck on earth in the 22nd century would've picked up on that slight change (in her 1963 version magic wasn't a thing. But that past has been slightly altered due to the 14th doctor's actions in wild blue yonder). Magic, 22nd century technology and a timelady's knowledge might have kept her off the Timelords telepathic radar, so to speak. Anyhoodle, things that I thought of that I think would be required or need to be considered for your theory to be true. Cool theory however!

@marianneootjers4786

20 күн бұрын

Long ramble add-on: I did just realize that the timelords weren't so much as gone but trapped in a statis-cube-esque bubble. I do have doubts though that that was always the case. I think, the first time we see 9, they were really dead and gone. And that it wasn't until 11th that that was changed. They were still gone, just not dead. And when the war doctor returned to his Tardis and timestream, it realigned itself with the (up till then) 11th memories prior to saving Gallifrey to re-establish his own personal timeline. So two time-lines-wibbley-wobbley stuff imo. So another possibility; Susan managed to be return to Gallifrey, was actually dead, then 11th, 10th and the War Doctor sort-of saved Gallifrey, she would've been trapped and so still gone. She escaped during 12th's run, or at least before the Master destroyed Gallifrey. Since we don't know who her parents are, she might be part Timelord (or whatever the Doctor actually is) and part something else. Maybe allowing her to have unique abilities and be able to fly under the rader. Who knows.

Based on absolutely nothing, I think Susan Twist is actually "the one who waits" and that she represents television, in the same way the Toymaker represents games and Maestro represents music. All three representing forms of entertainment. That would form a Triad.

With this weekends reference to susan, im calling that shes back 100%. Nothing to do with ruby, but back

If susan returns , I will cry like a baby

Could be elderly versions of Clara Oswald after all Clara was splintered across the Doctor's timeline past AND future in other words although we never saw it versions of her helped both the Ruth Doctor, the 13th Doctor, & the 14th Doctor

@everyrose0772

Ай бұрын

When did she help 14?

Oooh, thought! What if the Doctor’s obsession with Earth and keeping it safe was because initially he was trying to keep it safe FOR Susan? Especially if things can happen in the past that would negatively affect her time period of the 2160s. Along the way he develops an affection for humanity, but his original compelling interest was slightly more selfish.

Oooooo, so purple..... My new glasses are blue, but when the light hits them just right, they look purple. Bonus. I had a headache before starting the video, now I do not. And this is not the first time a WhoCulture video has relieved my headache. Weird. Also, thanks. And I have nothing else to add, except RELEASE THE EXTENDED CUT!!!

There is a possible there’s a possibility that when Susan is about to regenerate river song turns up and drops her there for the doctor to meet as she knows from her records they meet there ( by the way could river be her grandmother true no mention of them having a child at some point in the past hack for all we know Susan might of really been his daughter took the role of grand farther due to their apparent ages when she put into his care by river at some point after left in the tardis as I don’t recall her being with him when Clara points him to the right one

I thought Mrs Flood was (Susan), but it's possible she is a villain? May be the mistress? But I did hear rumor she could be another form of River Song🤷

theres always a Twist at the end

That's definitely possible that she could be Susan's daughter. What would be even crazier is if she actually is the insect creature in the trailer and she's able to alter her appearance

The one WHO waits, their's always a Twist at the end hmm?

Maybe Ms Twist is playing Missy? RTD said THE MASTER is parked. Long shot, but I think it more likely. I am certain she is not The Rani though. Too tight a knot to unravel to get The Rani...

I love the character of susan and kinda hope they acknowledge her and his time during the 8th and her adventures. And the loss of alex. Allot of big finish is tied to the show so who knows.

They named a horse Susan once in Eleven's run. Hmmmm...

What about Jenny being Rudy Mother. That means like the first season of Doctor who that a granddaughter of the doctor is his companion.

I agree 100% as I think Susan will make a come back and looking back you're right Ellie I will every surprised if she don't come back as there are Bread crumbs there lol

What if Susan Foreman is Mrs Flood ?? Also the recasting of Captain Jack Harkness could work if the rogue time agent is Jack before he becomes Captain Jack Harkness I mean he did take the name in memory of the real Captain Jack

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Mrs Flood didn't recognise the Tardis so I doubt it

.... but it was "Series 1" As to the TARDIS key... remember the discarded point of the Metacrisis Doctor being given a fragment of the TARDIS to grow a new one in that other universe. Would the key not be a part of the TARDIS, since it produces them as needed?

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River Song gave all of her regeneration energy to the 11th Doctor didn't she? So her being recast wouldn't make sense unless that was retconned, can't remember. Too many retcons. 😂 Where Susan is a Time-Lord so she could regenerate from Carole Ann Ford to Susan Twist if this does happen. I do want to see her regeneration, though, not just recasting as we had between 8 and 9.

I do think bringing Susan back would be cool. I would love her to be a villain though 😅 it would make sense why she would be stealing the doctors companions/ former doctors with the memory Tardis. A memory Tardis for someone who feels like they were “forgotten” and stealing people who were not “forgotten’ by the doctor as a message to her hurt and his carelessness? 👀

What if Ruby is an Ysgaroth? There's a legend in doctor who lore that the great vampires (Ysgaroth) had a child that was taken from them. The theory has usually been that it's the doctor seeing as they're the timeless child but what if it's Ruby?

do we know anything of susan parents? Because i was thinking she could be susan's mother, but her being susan's daughter would make more sense narration wise. I think Susan Twist playing Ruby's biological mother is a bit too obvious for RTD's taste imo; I have recently watched the first three episodes as they came out and The Doctor gave Ruby a key of the Tardis in Devil's Chord i believe and he spent the last few minutes of Boom looking for his keys as Ruby lended him hers to get into the tardis at the end, it feels like they are forshadowing something. I hope the story will dive deeper than "this famous character is your mother, ruby, there, done"

What if (assuming Susan is Rubys mom) she left Ruby because the One Who Waits is after her to try and get to the Doctor and Susan was just trying to protect Ruby from that danger?