What do you make of the results? Will you be investing in a pair of carbon plated running shoes to help your own times? Let us know in the comments ↓

@markking8801

3 жыл бұрын

Already have the 4%,next%and alphaflys awesome racing shoes. they really aid an V50 🤫😎

@zdengvox

3 жыл бұрын

I had Hoka Carbon X, but it didn't actually make me any faster on 10k or half marathon. But I can say they are extremely comfy and I had no injuries. Truly an awesome trainer,marathon and ultra running shoe. I just got Nike Zoom Fly 3 with carbon plate, which feels fast and springy. Can't wait to test them out.

@markking8801

3 жыл бұрын

@@zdengvox never helped me either plus hurt like hell. 😭

@hairyairey

3 жыл бұрын

Finsbury Park Anna? I hate that hill I have never really got to grips with it!

@markking8801

3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see the difference on a 20minuter 5k runner

Forget the shoes. This video is perfect. Seeing a guy built like me struggle running like I do. Gives me hope.

@nollys8523

3 жыл бұрын

Was just about to post the same thing when I saw your post. So nice to see someone like me (albeit male) with a parkrun PB that is my goal ♥️ We need more Tom!

@dwylaw

3 жыл бұрын

This. All the this :D

@mini696

3 жыл бұрын

I just said the same thing. This guy is me.

@Thegardener87

3 жыл бұрын

As long as you enjoy your running that's what matters. 👍🏻

@zizahtremor9183

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know you but I believe in you! I bet you would be an amazing runner! ☺️

Should have Tom on more often!! Loved his evalutation of running 5km "It was awful frankly" hahaha

@SamMartinPeakPerformance

3 жыл бұрын

the honesty is brilliant

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

haha glad you enjoyed it!

I have never related to a runner more than I have with Tom and its makes me feel so much better about my runs that it's okay to feel its difficult and that breathing is hard. And the stitches!!! Thank you so much Tom :)

@madr309

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. I'm a back-of-the packer, and guys like Tom, the non-elite, doing it just for the love, slogging through the miles runners are what I think of as the real runners. No glory, just guts. Well done, Tom!

@MSIM-ks8rr

3 жыл бұрын

Keep grinding. It gets better I promise

@lutze5086

3 жыл бұрын

@@madr309 he's not "slogging through the miles", he's walking through his 5km runs when its clearly within his capabilities, and only running the entirety with external pressures...

@eitonaraoka6213

3 жыл бұрын

Every runner deals with them we feel your pain too😂

@paddss

Жыл бұрын

Your stitches are probably from poor hydration. Drink lots of water an hour before your run and they shouldn't develop stitches

YES TOM!! Need you in front of the camera more buddy...

@wanbaclone

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. More Tom, please.

That's it Tom NEEDS to be on the next Challenge Accepted. Doing it for Team Average !

@davedevries5866

3 жыл бұрын

Not wanting to ‘dob him in’ BUT.....That would be an awesome idea. Strike one for the average guy.....sorry Rick, you can be Mr average aswell.💋💋

@kevinlance1813

3 жыл бұрын

Nice idea. I second that.

@rolandjamesasuncion1574

10 ай бұрын

This comment has aged well, mate. They've been making Tom run like hell on those world record pace challenges 🤣💯♥️

Nice to see someone with 5K times I can relate to! None of this 'breaking 15 minutes' nonsense. I think us less experienced runners have more natural variation in our times, so not totally convinced it was all down to the trainers....but good effort! Still, I thought £120 was a lot to drop on trainers so will have to go without the Vaporfly gains.

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching David! It's interesting to see what a difference they could make :-)

@dri1811ya

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha. More like, "legs breaking down 15 minutes in"

@bobdown5520

3 жыл бұрын

Why is breaking 15min nonsense.

@TheSublimeLifestyle

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobdown5520 Because he’s not at that level yet. If he gets there, he’ll have a different sentiment.

@katydid5088

Жыл бұрын

@@bobdown5520 15 min 5k is a 3min/k pace. In miles that's roughly 5 min mile. Loads of beginners get to 8 min threshold but going any lower after your first training peak takes 5x's the work for even a few more seconds of gains. Then, everything is about consistency in training and diet without doing anything too strenuous and getting an injury.

My bank account went from 250$ to 0 in 3 seconds. It's fast I say.

@Evtingperfect

3 жыл бұрын

Are you still running in them?

@kcdiazWTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@Evtingperfect Yes. I'm on my second pair. 😅

@Evtingperfect

3 жыл бұрын

@@kcdiazWTV Wow great thanks 😁 ill get a pair right now

@kcdiazWTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@Evtingperfect I just wish they're cheaper. : /

It so nice that you represent the "average" runner in your content. There are plenty of running channels that showcase people running distances and at a pace that is only ever going to be achievable for the top % of runners. Keep up the good work.

34:35! That’s amazing for someone who hasn’t run in a long time!

Well done for running 5k without stopping two weeks in a row! 👏 Hope you keep going!!! Congratulations to mirror universe Tom too!!!

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!

Just bought a pair of Vaporfly Next%2 shoes and did exactly the same gain.. my PB two years ago was 27:56 and my current 5K was 28:56... yesterday I did a 15K so on tired legs my 5K time on the Nike's was 26:26... So comfortable, but I am a toe striker which helps, but I have wide feet.. which was no problem actually... oh and I'm 49 years old! Thanks everyone, great video

How lovely to see a video with an "average" runner with ~ 30m 5K times! Great going, Tom!

We need to see this guy more, average Joe is what most of us are. Not sure the shoes made that much difference myself, you could get that change from being tired the first time and fresh the second. Also how the soul was collapsing can't them lasting long with an average build runner

I've been running fairly regularly for the last 18 months. Just bought a pair of Vaporfly Next% Gyakusou and my 5k time went from 20:17 -> 19:44, plus I felt like I could still have pushed a bit harder. Stride length also increased from 1.36m to 1.45. All in all I'd say they definitely help. Seems pay to win works IRL too :)

@runningchannel

2 жыл бұрын

It's amazing the difference they can make. Interesting to hear the actual gains you've seen from wearing them.

@axelgiuliano

2 жыл бұрын

Vapo save muscles that s why you beat your PR ? Interesting to check autolap ? You should be more fresh with better shoes ?

@terribledoc5913

2 жыл бұрын

My pr went from 17:45 to 17:00, and won my county championship off it splitting a 5:10 last mile

@cvspvr

2 жыл бұрын

i mean no offence to you, i have the vaporflies, and they're amazing, but given the reputation they have, i wonder how much of the improvement is placebo

@xtremelifefitness9524

2 жыл бұрын

dude, i love your channel! good to see another stoic runner in the comment section

Would love to see it done on different levels of runners... No offense to Tom but he is still in the phase where a couple of runs can shed off a few minutes...

@ambiguousheadline8263

3 жыл бұрын

Facts, when I started running my first 5k ever was 27:17, and and two weeks later I broke 24, and another two weeks later I broke 23. And this was all while wearing the same shoes.

@jackjack8205

3 жыл бұрын

@@ambiguousheadline8263 subtle brag.

@charnov3813

2 жыл бұрын

@@ambiguousheadline8263 my first was 32 minutes on a good day, after about 3 weeks of xc it was our final meet ( I joined really late btw ), about 35 degrees, and I ran 25:59.93, crazy what a huge improvement you can get from just training hard!

@arjunyeleshwarapu

2 жыл бұрын

@@charnov3813 great improvement! was the course hilly

Anyone else as a kid say "these trainers are really fast" 😂 when they got a new pair? Any kid wearing new trainers for the first time would tear the playground up always

@quasi19812002

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean 'as a kid' 😉

@TizerisT.

2 жыл бұрын

i'm 41 and I still wax lyrical about my Puma Disc Technology to mere lace wearing mortals.

@jamesbothoms6009

2 жыл бұрын

Can still remember my Hexalite's wowing 12 year old me, kept me so quick the bigger lads couldn’t steal my dinner money 😂

Great video. Tom should be in front of the camera more often ☺

love the running channel Anna, Rick, Kate and Andy do a great job but its been really refreshing to see a 'normal' guy on here that i can relate to. hopefully we can see more 'normal' runners in future videos along with the regular crew. great video :)

This typifies what many love about The Running Channel. Solid proof that running is for everybody, regardless of ability. Well done and thanks guys.

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Awww thanks so much Anthony!

Awesome video! My hobbit feet would probably have the Vaporflys bursting at the seams, but it was interesting to see a "regular Joe" putting them through their paces. I wouldn't have expected them to make much of a difference at this pace to be honest. As others have commented, a lot of factors might have contributed to the better time, but it does look like at least some of it must be the shoes. Tom looked, and said himself that he felt better in the Vaporflys, maybe he really did gain about 4% from the shoes, and the rest from other factors. Also very nice to see a 30 min+ 5K runner on youtube, makes me feel a little better about my own slow running. Comparison isn't always the thief of joy, though that usually is the case...

I swear by these shoes. They didn’t make any difference to my 5k or 10k times but my half marathons definitely come down by a couple of minutes. Also my legs were a lot less fatigued and definitely felt fresher after long runs. Ps well done Tom for not stopping on both your runs.

This was such a helpful video. Getting the perspective of the average runner using an elite running shoe was such a great idea and exactly what I needed to see to make my decision. Well done!

Well done Tom- instant hero !!

Watching regular people run, just as fun as watching the elites. 5k PB series with Tom!

Well done Tom on pushing yourself to run the full 5k and it’s great to see the “average runner” like myself running and struggling like do. Well done Tom hope to see you in more videos

I love that you looked at a normal guy. I wish you'd kitted him with a cadence and HR monitor to see if his faster time was accomplished with the same HR and cadence.

I relate to him so much!!! need him in more videos for runners who don't run all the time! much more relatable

Really enjoyed today’s video! Get him on here more, new fresh perspective is interesting sometimes!

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you for making such a relatable video…. I’ve just hit 5km from the couch, now working on getting used to it. Great content!

Tom is a whole mood that I can completely relate to, I need more videos with him!

Have we considered the possibility that Tom may simply have experienced a temporary psychological boost from using the Vaporfly's? The mind does play a huge part in any sporting endeavor and knowing that one is expecting to perform better in one shoe than another shoe may simply have caused lower expectations on the first run and higher expectations on the second one.

@Jaigarful

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think that's why she said "highly scientific" in jest at the start of the video.

@OrdMandrell1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jaigarful A very fair point :)

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely Adrian and we're sure this would have played a bit of a role in the overall outcome. It was interesting to hear how Tom said his legs felt after running in the Vaporfly's though - so perhaps there's something in the recovery too.

@ShadowJamchan

3 жыл бұрын

Regardless of physical or mental it still came from the shoes, so win for Nike I think!

@Chris-gq8ev

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, get your placebos where you can.

So nice to see a relatable runner admitting to sneaking a walk in a 5k! And even nicer to be reminded I haven’t had to do that myself for weeks :)

I think it would be interesting if he did another 5k in his original trainers

@Naregnemyes

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, at a minimum. His last 5k was the first time he had pushed himself to run without a walking break. It's possible he had significant fitness gains from the prior run as "training." Of course, the show is unquestionably proven to give an advantage over other shoes, but this doesn't answer the question of how much improvement an amateur runner could see.

@thelelanatorlol3978

2 жыл бұрын

@@Naregnemyes The shoes are designed to give you an extra 4% energy return over other shoes by acting like an Achilles tendon, so take your current time, subtract 4% of the time from it and that should be roughly the gains you see from the shoes.

@pgarland2

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelelanatorlol3978 When you first start running or exercising after a long break, you get massive gains. The shoes are great, but he would probably run another PB in his old shoes.

This video is really making me consider to invest on a racing shoe for my next half marathon in the fall. Thank you for always sharing so great content for us average runners.

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

Well done Tom!! That was a great video, great to see an average runner out there!! I really want these runners now!! 😁😁

Not gonna lie, I'm watching this to make myself feel better as a beginner runner haha

This was really good to watch, Tom should test out more trainers 👍🏼 he was brilliant and very honest. Well done Tom 👍🏼

Tom is all of us. Thank you for your sacrifice Tom 🙏

Love this video. He seemed to be struggling less in the second run, less out of breath. Tom is awesome, we need him back. 👍🏻

Interesting test and something have tried to work out for myself. I would certainly be faster in any race shoe than a heavy daily trainer but not by that much. One of the big plus points of a shoe like the NEXT% is that it is as cushioned as most shoes designed just for that but way lighter and certainly gives me a mental lift as well as physical one whenever put them on. They do also last longer than some might thing. I have done over 250 miles in one pair and still feels similar to a newer pair and have heard of some doing as much as 800 miles in a pair.

Well helpful video i was looking for thats information thanks and good luck in future

Awesome video. Good work Tom. I’m a slow runner and I have these shoes. I know I am waaaaay too slow for them but the last time I put them on for a marathon, I felt like I could take on the world. Btw, they’re very comfortable to walk in after you hit the wall at 32km

This channel is always on another level. Everyone else should take notes! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

I loved the review, he's honest and like a lot of runners out there do struggle aerobaically to keep going. He did well to push through... I still struggle to do a full 5k without having a walk which i blame on my asthma and to be honest I'm unsure how much to blame the asthma versus lack of will power. Nice review guys!

Well done Tom! Super video, nice to see how the shoes worked out for you 😊

Fun to watch. I’m a slow runner as well and as some have said being in the wrong shoe for you, period, can do more harm anything. Having the time of my life now I’ve settled on Brooks Ghosts.

I love my Vaporflys and wouldn’t swap them for the world. This video is proof they can help any runner at any speed 👍👍 Well done Tom!

Seriously I love this channel so much... I remember feeling like he feels he did greaaaat 5k after a long time no run like he said amazing!! Keep going

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Fabian! 😊

Love this! Very relatable, well done Tom, hope to see more from Tom 👍🏼👍🏼 (Tom might not be a fan of the last bit 🤣🤣)

Great to see someone that runs at my plod pace..great work, bet you are glad to get back on the other side of the camera.😉👍

This is exactly what I need to decide what I want for Christmas

@emiljonrup512

3 жыл бұрын

Same

I think for a runner of his ability the shoes made a difference in the following ways: First, the weight difference: Dragging those Asics around (I imagine they are easily 150g heavier per shoe than the Nikes) which equates to dragging many extra KGs over the distance. Second, the cushioning reducing the strain on tendons and ligaments. You'd need to run a lot faster for any beneficial energy return from the foam or rather, fatigue reduction. I also wonder, did he run at all in between the two Time Trials? Kudos Tom for the improvement. Shoes or not and improvement is an improvement.

Need a crossover double-blind trial! This is probably placebo effect plus a nice fitness boost from the previous week’s run. I chalk it all up to the runner this time :)

@19Kamau79

3 жыл бұрын

I did Next% first impression and testing video about two weeks ago as being Average Joe. I guess nothing is accurate as inaccurate but I truly found little difference of saving energy.

Great video. Good to see an 'average runner' for a change on You Tube!

Im a sub 20min and have been totally motivated by Tom. Great honest video. Just bought the shoe yesterday before I watched this too. Super remarkable shoe. Soo easy to go quicker with same effort.

I run in New balance TC. And I totally agree with Tom. The legs feel so fresh after running is such shoes. Amazing job Tom!!

Interesting video. I'm sure part of the improvement was down to some increased fitness as result of doing the first 5km a week before. Personally, I wouldn't be interested in getting the shoes at the moment, but if the time comes when I'm parkrunning and racing regularly again, it might be worth making the investment

Much more relatable. Not all your viewers can run sub 20 5ks!

I'd add a 3rd run with his Asics a week after. Tremendous improvement in fitness can be gained when you run a never done before distance and recover fully.

I just bought my 1st pair of carbon plated shoes.... the difference is NO joke! I run on a treadmill so I can monitor the environment more closely. I was running faster, 20% longer, and my HR was 10% less. Even at the end I felt I could keep going. The reduction of wear and tear along with the energy return is a game changer.

Oh I love these videos .. my fav KZread channel .. thanks guys x

Love this. More ‘average runner’ videos please!! I think he smashed both runs!

Excellent video. Thanks for the brilliant info.

All hail the average runner! He’s a better sport than me as I hope no one ever videos me running😄

Tom!!!! You represent all us average runners lol. On your first 5k as you saw that hill I laughed so hard and the second time just splendid well done Tom

Great to see someon close to my fitness (bit faster) on the channel. But £200+ !!!!! for runners?? Geeeezus!

Good job Tom! Was really nice to see someone closer to me in terms of performance try this. Maybe shoes can help a little for me too 😀

This is what makes this channel great - acknowledging that an average runner is a 30 minutes (ish!) parkrunner, who longs for death after 5k! You really should have done two more sessions, first with Nike, second with Tom's old shoes, to balance out practice and fatigue effects. (not a fan of in-vid ads). Sadly, I have flippers instead of feet, so will stick to my Altra toe-boxes! X

If Tom can repeat this experiment again, within the next few weeks, it will add validity to the test results. Come on Tom, you know you want to ! 😁

This was inspiring. Way to go Tom! New subscriber here!!

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard Jim and thanks so much for watching!

Nice video and great having someone who is running times most of us can relate to. There must be some physical improvement to wearing the Nike's definitely, but agree there will be a psychological boost too and what's wrong with that? A lot of running is mental so if you feel quicker, feel like you can run longer, then 'just do it'.

"Yay! Well done, How you feeling?"... Tom: "It was awful.. quite frankly!" 😂😂

I believe some of this is the mechanical advantage that the shoe offers but as Tom said, he felt a lot more comfortable in them and better supported. And you always run faster when you feel good. So as well as the mechanical advantage, there will have been a psychological advantage too as they gave Tom more confidence to push a little harder. Well done Tom. Keep it up mate, you'll be chasing Andy down at park runs soon!

Watching a man in suffering :-D Hat's off for a really good attempt. It takes guts ! Tom running is a great addition.

I may get a pair in a few years, when they are out dated and cheaper !

I think what Tom said at the end is very accurate. "You cant cheat aerobic fitness with shoes". I am an average runner with 6.00 min/km avg pace for 10k .. I bought a fancy pair of adidas shoes recently and the avg pace was just down to 5.58min/km ... Thats when I realized that for us average folks, its never about the gear, its about the person in that gear.. You are better off saving ur $ and working on your fitness rather than fancy gear.

@tobiasz6613

2 жыл бұрын

100% (I'll get my 30 minutes parkrun time when I'm fit enough to do it)

Great Video. Need more Tom!

Thank you for the review. I enjoyed this video.

@runningchannel

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Nice to see someone like me when i run! Struggling all the way 😅😅😅😅😅 Love It! Tom the Hero!

This was an excellent video. More please.

Thank you! I have been waiting for an experiment like this for some time. Kudos to Tom for taking on this experiment. My only suggestion would be to run follow up runs alternating between the shoes to get more data over time.

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Love the fact that both 5k runs are in this video, and that it wasn't tested by a guy running at impossible paces for an average runner. I just got myself Zoom Fly 3 with carbon plate, and this gives me hope to break my 10k record this week.

Seeing this gave me hope. I found these at a Nike clearance store for $99 and I’ve never had carbon plated shoes so I didn’t wanna spend $250 for the latest ones and I’m not the fastest runner. I’m working on running more to improve overall but this really inspired me

@DankScoleMusic

Жыл бұрын

I hope I can get lucky and gets steal like that 😭😭

Maybe he could do like ten runs. Five with Nike and five with the other one. And then compare times.

@monky91

3 жыл бұрын

And not talking during the run, and just focus on running

@Nonixification

3 жыл бұрын

@@monky91 And wear a hr strap to see the effort

@sectokia1909

3 жыл бұрын

yeah especially when he has actually been running 30 - 31min park runs times in the past... now to find out if this video was sponsored by nike

@chadworth66

3 жыл бұрын

He'd get better and have soreness in much higher variations then a conditioned runner. There's no point trying it on a newbie. That's like putting new tires on a car you've never driven and saying the car feels better.

@sygboe1

3 жыл бұрын

Wear both shoes, one on each foot. Problem solved.

I’d like to see it the other way round on tests like this...there must be an element of knowing the course a bit that helps the second time around. Run in the testing shoes first, then regular shoes second.

Excelent video, as always 👍

Well done Tom! Nice running mate. I must say I much prefer this colourway to the original black and green...much nicer looking.

Great video! Thanks!

Well done Tom. Great effort.

Great video guys! I love my next%

Good video. Its good to see reviews from people that are not so fast and more like the average John

Finally seeing a guy with kinda my pace, loved it !!!!!

He def improved by running a 5k the week b4 running in the next% I really do believe the shoes helped him too. 8 per cent is crazy tho. I'd say 4 per cent shoe gain and 4 percent fitness gains!

You can certainly gain 3 minutes on your 2nd 5k when you’re just starting out. You guys should know this. Its like weight lifting, this is just beginner gains. I have these shoes, and my review is that it feels like it puts substantially less mileage on my knees, and when you’re running fast, it pushes you to keep the speed, which isn’t magic because you have to be careful not to burn out.

I bought some as an extravagance for giving up the gym and going covid running and I am slowish too and i feel the same. My legs just don’t get as tired on the 10+km long runs so it’s nicer. Love them

Very good video, typical running channel high quality, thanks 👍

@runningchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

I'm guessing must of us watching are more like Tom than anyone else on this channel. Good video.

For how inexperienced of a runner he is, his stride is actually quite good, not heel slapping like a lot of others.

I like how you include the behind the scenes people in some of the videos