I’m surprised Citroen haven’t developed their own power pack .

@lordcharfield4529

Ай бұрын

They’ll only do what they perceive will make them money! To make a power pack would be an admission that their batteries aren’t up to the job!

@chinesepopsongs00

Ай бұрын

They haven't because the whole idea is dumb. If you want more range it's more economic to just increase the battery in the car. That is because you loose power due to efficiency reasons when you charge one battery with another. Specially if you do it by converting it from DC from one battery to AC with a inverter, only to convert it back from AC to DC again with a charger. Also just increase battery size in the car will save you the space of the inverter and the cooling for the inverter and the money that in this case a 2000W inverter would cost.

@user-fz8ep5ey4v

Ай бұрын

@@chinesepopsongs00 so you think I’m dumb . You know absolutely nothing about me , who’s dumb now ?

@uweinhamburg

18 күн бұрын

@@chinesepopsongs00 In the end, all forms of energy end as heat!

@HologramJones

12 күн бұрын

Citroen has stated before that they are more committed to smaller batteries because they have less environmental impact and less troublesome. Their game is making the vehicles lighter to maximise range, hence the Oli concept.

I loved the variety of USB ports, and the autonomy it added to the Elton from such a compact power bank was not bad at all, It exceeded expectations, yet another excellent review.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Thanks I thought the added range was very impressive. Best so far

Another mid week video - yay 🎉

Hi lads from Spain. Something like that could be used as a back up for solar. I remember during the 70s having a 12v battery and battery charger set up supplying 12v bulbs and a portable television to overcome the consequences of the miner's strike. A plus was it would also keep the central heating going.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Oh it certainly could and I’m going to look at another modular system soon which is even more suited to domestic use

The perfect portable power station charger hasn’t been invented yet. It needs to be made lighter, thinner and smaller with a shorter recharging time. This one is good but still falls short. Thanks for the review! 😊

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Charge time on this is pretty good as is range but I wish it were taller and thinner

@mikehipperson

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi What? Isn't Mr Boo tall enough? 🤣

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

@@mikehipperson lol

@clevernduruza8624

Ай бұрын

There's the anker which is tall and the ecoflow which is flat

The yellow socket you showed us at 3.12 is to charge LIPO batteries as used for model planes, model cars and drones and so on so very useful!

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

thanks Henk. My drone goes in usb c but it’s only little

That’s a great bit of kit and the extra mileage is amazing, new Boottery makes the car go farrrrrrr

Excellent hands-on review. If you have room, you could take both those packs, maybe? Maybe someone can advise what that yellow socket of caravaning joy is for.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

You can easily take both if travel alone. Or the aferiy if travelling alone though you can have a passenger and the aferiy it’s just not as comfortable

Thanks Tim Impressive unit and good review. Seems an ideal sized capacity to meet the needs of most people and then some. Price with your discount is competitive as well.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Yes these things are becoming much more affordable

Coolus love these vids 😀

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Thanks David

Thanks for putting this together. Solid state batteries will transform the EV landscape - these cars included. The 500 mile range AMI will be a thing.

@MeandMonAmi

14 күн бұрын

I think so

eco flow delta max will fit space ! I have two and second will go transversely next to other on floor in front of passenger seat - each 2400w output therefore 4800w total extra

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Thanks Bill.

Very interesting! I always wonder how much the range of the Ami is affected by carrying the extra weight of the battery.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

I don’t think it has much impact, I mean a passenger is three times or more the weight of the battery

@mikehipperson

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi Who? Fat Brenda or beanpole Mr Boo?

The most important bit of technical information with any powerbank like this is, how many Kilowatt Hours does it have. (it's storage capacity)

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Indeed

@trs4u

Ай бұрын

A quick search for the model says "2-ish kWh". That's an impressive amount of added range (12+km per kWh if I've understood correctly?) by EV standards. There's probably a reason why they don't come with A-G energy efficiency labels! That's a decently small unit for 2kWh compared to the beast Lead Acids in my solar shed.

In the electric Aixam there seems to be much more room in the back for things like this. Perhaps a tripple set witch should double the range?

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Yes I think it has a boot?

At the end, Mr. Boo and Twiggy are sitting on the roof... :-)

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

With a brolly!

Interesting review thank you. Wonder how long all of the little flappy “doors” will last before they break 😄

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

We have another with similar and they have lasted 18 months plus

If Ami was able to go arround 70kms easily, I would consider buying one. How long does it take to go from 0-50km/h ?

As someone with a vintage. pre-war car, I'm wondering if it's possible to make and fit a rear fold-down luggage rack that is similar to what was fitted to cars before the boot/trunk was designed into the body of the car. You may need to relocate the number plate to the rack in such a way as it can been seen in both positions. You can then increase you luggage capacity. It would need to be fitted to the 'chassis' of the Ami with some decent sized nuts and bolts (probably two each side to provide strength).

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Fiat have done it to the Toplolino which is almost identical to the Ami

@crashbox7130

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi Yes, I know of the Topolino but wasn't aware FIAT had a luggage rack on its options list. Is it one that attaches to the body just beneath the rear window, or is it one that fits to the underside of the car and when folded down it's only around 6ins off the road? It's that design I'm thinking of. It'll be stronger than one bolted to the plastic body. As an aside; a friend owns a 1938 FIAT Topolino (the original Topolino).

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

@@crashbox7130 I think it attaches to the frame through the body

Y have a question, i want to buy an AMI buy i dint know to chose the Orange model and the tonic what its the BEST??

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Well they’re the same so it’s all about stickers and trim!

If someone could have built a portable AC with Vents for Ami Window, that would be so awesome. The only thing that i think that Ami is missing to me.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Yup would be great!

I read a rumour citroen are researching a 54mph ami with more range. Anyone else heard any rumours about future amis?

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

It’s perfectly possible given Renault did the same with Twizzy (a sans permis one and a permis one with faster top speed)

@Filipe1020

Ай бұрын

A more powerful Ami with air conditioning would be perfect

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

@@Filipe1020 I’m all for air con!

I do have one question! Can the door close when you are using a bank from inside the car? I know it won't when the charging point is outside, but curious about this bank! Great video thanks ❤

@MeandMonAmi

8 күн бұрын

It does close from charging points outside and you can cheat it to a power bank

Have you had a go in the microlino yet? Still waiting for them to show up in 🇬🇧

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

No I cant til I pass my test!

Maybe i missed it. But where do you connect the charging car port to the batterypack. Via the outside??

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

The ami just plugs into it like you’d plug a kettle in

@aamiddel8646

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi Maybe i was not clear. Have you a power cord between the extra battery and the plug (charging port) on the outside of the car. I have never heard of a ev that has a charging port on the inside of the car.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

@@aamiddel8646 you just pull a wire out of inside the ami. Check out some of our other Wednesday playlist videos it’s all there (I think!)

@aamiddel8646

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi Will look good on a Tesla...

Why we cant buy li ion battary with bigger capacity, lets say twice bigger, and instal it in 3rd party service center? is it that expensive or here is other reason?

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

The issue here would be the vehicle then ceases to be a ‘light quad’ and would therefore require a licence to drive.

I know you car stuff in the boot, but??? Is it more important than getting home?

How much range does carry it in the car take? Since the more weight in the car the more energy needed to move it

@MeandMonAmi

22 күн бұрын

Never seems to make much difference To be honest

Would it fit behind the drivers seat?

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Sadly no

Why transfer charge? Why not plug in and drive from it.?

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

You can’t

@alejandrayalanbowman367

Ай бұрын

The demand is too great and would result in a burn out.

I heard that Citroen are going to change they layout of the Ami. Have you heard anything.🧸🧸🐕🚙

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

I can’t see that

@Jamienomore

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi I was told they received a lot of complaints about how the wind and rain gets in through the badly designed door locks, so they are going to fix that problem. They are supposed to be taking the DNR from the door and putting it on the dashboard. Finally, they are going to replace the Heater with one that actually works.

Love it!

Nice printer

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

It’s a great printer we love it

It’s a shame it is a little too big, otherwise it would be perfect.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Yup great range and we’ve travelled with one this size and mr boo’s legs but obviously one that fits in luggage but is preferable. Great range on this though

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Great range gain!

@Keneka

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi perhaps after you review, they will resize for the next model 😉🤞🏻

Since you're going to have to replace the battery sooner of later, I wonder why you don't just buy a new one and carry the old one as reserve? Shouldn't be that hard to hard wire so you'd just have to flip a switch and you'd never miss lunch in the mountains again!

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Where would we put it?!

@TBB3rd

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi I should think if you couldn't come up with a better place, you could just put it where your charger goes now, between Mr. Boo's feet. Wiring would go back to your current battery terminals. I'd be surprised if your Citroen dealer couldn't fix you up. Bonne chance...(Also might be a good idea for video).

@mikehipperson

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi Put it on a trailer. More weight to lug around and negating the range improvement!

@TBB3rd

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi Oppps. Sorry guys. Not the greatest suggestion. I didn't realize the battery was quite as big as it it. You could probably find a smaller 48 volt battery with less Amh but that probably wouldn't get you much more range than your charger.

Mister Me and Mister Boo, well yet another portable power bank Tim,one thing you'll always stay charged 😂🎉

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

True!

What a pity that all of these batteries cannot be connected while driving, simply adding to the car main battery.

@MeandMonAmi

16 күн бұрын

It is but they can ‘t

do i spy a Citroen H van , how lovely...x

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Yes I think it came in on a low loader. There’s a modern one around Villefranche too

Peak is 2150 Wh

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Yup

There are videos on KZread where people with normal ebikes are using small petrol generators plugged into the battery and charging it as they go along. The original one I saw was an old boy in America who's sight was too bad for him to drive so he bought a trike and was able to go longer distances with this setup. Other people who use the method claim a distance of up to 200 miles per gallon. Toodle pip.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

That sound fabulously mad! Do you have a link?

@psocretes8183

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi I can't find the original post but there are loads of people who have done the same. I'm not sure if YT allow links in posts so I have split it in two you just have to put the HTTPS in front of the link bit. kzread.info?search_query=e+bike+with+generator. If you do a general search for "ebike powered by a generator" there will be loads of results. You probably wouldn't want to drive through town with it running but out of town no problem.

@psocretes8183

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi Here is an electric car with one on the roof. kzread.info/dash/bejne/q2eBzdmNcta2oaQ.html. www.

@psocretes8183

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi I did reply with links but I don't think links are allowed. Try a search "ebikes with gas generators."

I sat in 2 BYD electric cars yesterday. Wow! Just wow! The quality and extras are insane. Out of my price range though!

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Interesting I haven’t seen one in the flesh yet

I can add 100s of kilometres of range, in my diesel truck, in about 5 minutes!

Theres a bright thing in the sky,its called the sun could have put solar on the roof,extra free range then!

@MeandMonAmi

10 күн бұрын

Sadly the amount it Adds doesn’t seem quite worth it to us (plus as you will see in other videos we need the roof!) Airports have amis with solar but it only powers peripherals

EcoFlow…no brainer.

The EV fad is over. On to the next thing.

@kennshearer526

Ай бұрын

OK. So why and what is the next thing. ?

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Petrol run space invader machines

The whole idea is dumb. If you want more range it's more economic to just increase the battery in the car. That is because you loose power due to efficiency reasons when you charge one battery with another. Specially if you do it by converting it from DC from one battery to AC with a inverter, only to convert it back from AC to DC again with a charger. Also just increase battery size in the car will save you the space of the inverter and the cooling for the inverter and the money that in this case a 2000W inverter would cost.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Sounds complex and would definitely be a challenge to your insurance/ warranty etc

@chinesepopsongs00

Ай бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi i know that this is not a simple diy job. But people where discussing why Citroën is not making a charge station. For you as a enduser without knowledge of modifying electric cars a charge station is the only solution. However it is still a very inefficiënt solution.

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

@@chinesepopsongs00 you also then take the weight of the vehicle over 500kg which means it is no longer a light quad and it therefore requires a licence to drive in France

@chinesepopsongs00

18 күн бұрын

@@MeandMonAmi very good reason, so Citroën can not be blamed. They made the best they could within the constraints they faced.

all that for an extra 24 kilometres !!!! what a waste of a power pack, just use it for what it was intended for. NOT got my vote on electric cars....

@yutuniopati

Ай бұрын

25km is huge in Europe. We just need batteries tech to increase their power density by two ans these power bank would give almost 50km of extra range for an ami...

Very interesting vlog, Tim! I am still learning how these EV batteries work. Yes, this battery sounds fab for giving you extra range, but the size will impose on poor Mr. Boo's leggy space! So, when you plugged this into the Ami, it told you how much extra range you would get via extra wattage? Were you transferring the entire charge from the battery or adding on? ... It's all Greek to me, so forgive my ignorance. I am trying to understand how your battery works! Did I tell you I just got a new ebike? I haven't ridden a bike in decades, so this should be interesting (lol)...My ebike has the option of having 2 batteries for extended trips, however I only opted for the single as I don't plan on needing it for long range. I get 28-32km on one battery on a flat surface....anywho, thanks for the update. I LOVE LOVE THAT LOCATION, BY THE WAY! I could so totally sit there all day and picnic and read....deep sigh....🥐🧀🥗🥮🍹📖

@MeandMonAmi

Ай бұрын

Thanks Louise. Yes he’s lose a bit of legroom. Basically it’s a giant battery and it tops up the car one until it’s flat

@cmgosh37

Ай бұрын

….. and play a guitar. Agree on that parking lot! That’s basically the view the Glimmer Twins had in the summer of 1971. Maybe one of the reasons why Exile on Main St turned out to be one of the greatest records of all time. Another great Vlog. Thanks!!