How Much Does an LS Engine Build Cost?

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Let's go over the costs of building an LS engine... the MotoIQ way! Mike and Martin go over the costs of a budget oriented build as well as some of the more expensive options if you want to go all out! We itemize the costs, explain the differences and outline the bare minimums.
Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
3:26 - LS3 engine block and machining
7:04 - Eagle crankshaft and rods
14:20 - JE pistons
25:10 - King bearings
29:49 - Melling oil pump
32:29 - ARP hardware
35:30 - Gaskets, oil pickup brace, oil diverter
37:35 - COMP camshaft and master kit
39:57 - Running total for parts
40:03 - Engine assembly, balancing andl machining
40:45 - Heads and headwork
44:10 - Budget build grand total
44:30 - Upgrade options
45:45 - All Pro heads
48:37 - Dailey Engineering dry sump system
49:10 - Roller lifters and shaft rockers
54:24 - WPC and cryogenic treamtent
54:57 - Baller budget grand total
57:19 - RHS engine block
1:02:17 - Closing comments
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  • @seanwiebe9611
    @seanwiebe9611 Жыл бұрын

    Am I ever building an LS motor, probably not, did I just watch a full hour detailed explanation on which parts I should use and why. Yes, yes I did. If I ever was building a motor I would want it done by these guys, there’s a passion for engineering that is apparent here.

  • @satyarpm
    @satyarpm Жыл бұрын

    As a material science student, I was really happy when he started talking about grain refinement and near-net shaped forging. Top tier content as always, guys!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @satyarpm

    @satyarpm

    Жыл бұрын

    Would love to see this sort of break down video for an S85 v10. I know they're not that common of an engine to swap or something that's used in competition, but they are quite unreliable. Would be great to see your take on how to make that engine work reliably and the general challenges that engine poses for builders. Once again, thanks for all the great work, Mike!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    We have an S65 that we are eventually going to get to.

  • @1ute

    @1ute

    10 ай бұрын

    Navi Fan???

  • @geoffm3031
    @geoffm30316 ай бұрын

    Giving up the building secrets and cost to run an LSX. Almost proprietary knowledge on building a solid durable LS motor. Until the late 90's only a handful of tuners would divulge this knowledge without financial compensation. I watch the entire video and I want to build a 418 by these guys!

  • @TheTexican05
    @TheTexican05 Жыл бұрын

    Consider the following: Very few engine builders have this attention to detail. And MotoIQ is sharing a LOT of the tech secrets with the masses to help the community. Love and gratitude from an LS man for 22yrs. 👏 🍺 ❤️

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @rafaelbuelna3630

    @rafaelbuelna3630

    6 ай бұрын

    Tom Nelson from nelson's racing engines is also on the same boat, full of knowledge on engine builds

  • @VE427HDT

    @VE427HDT

    3 ай бұрын

    don't know about that my engine guy pays more attention to detail so much so he gets annoying at times, but he has set more national records than anyone else in my country he won't work on street engines he does drag racing pro stock or group 2, speedway sprint cars, I have watched him on his flow bench for hours with his piece of string watching how the head flow change he doesn't do CNC heads he does the porting to suit the build. I have learnt a lot from him and teached me the ethics of winning the more work you do the more you win

  • @mikaelstalnacke3613
    @mikaelstalnacke36136 ай бұрын

    I must say that Mike is so skilful engineer, and he is so nice to listen to. He don’t scream and talk too fast so even I can keep up with everything he says. he is always smiling and calm and so talent and experienced mechanic. Keep up the good work. 💪🏻

  • @evokid379
    @evokid379 Жыл бұрын

    Mike is literally my favorite guy doing this kind of work. So many people out there suck, he doesn’t. I might ship my engine to MotoIQ from the east coast, thats how much I like you guys 🤣

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you like it, so many shops just throw an engine together without checking anything, we fix those for people.

  • @johnnyhotrod

    @johnnyhotrod

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m with you,I’m In NY and I’m gonna call them this week.Called Shafiroff here in NY and didn’t feel comfortable with them,didn’t like the responses I got. These guys make me comfortable

  • @whodahellru8124

    @whodahellru8124

    Жыл бұрын

    Same. I’m in NC and want to build a mildly spicy 5.3 that will perform and stay together. I’ve built engines before but it’s the machining and clearances that makes all the difference!

  • @DreamInVader360
    @DreamInVader360 Жыл бұрын

    The most knowledgeable videos I've ever seen come from you folks at MotoIQ. I am super impressed with how thorough you are. Hats off to you 👏

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @killintime1311

    @killintime1311

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothing new with these guys. True Professionals

  • @Scott9181970

    @Scott9181970

    Жыл бұрын

    Mike is way too humble for his own good. If I recall correctly, the man has been in high level racing as an engineer since like, the 80s, and has put his hands on some of the craziest race cars any of us could ever dream of. Respect the yam.

  • @jaredchampagne2752
    @jaredchampagne27528 ай бұрын

    Pretty much what I’ve taken from this video, is that to race anything competitively, or have full as engine builds done relatively frequently, you better make 300-400k per year or be close to a millionaire. Why do I have such an expensive passion.

  • @nickc7318
    @nickc7318 Жыл бұрын

    Yall cover it all.. so much knowledge and experience from the passion for power and quality. This content is so thorough and i feel lucky to stumble upon yall. Diamond in the rough, love yall, keep killing it. Im sure everyone appreciates the sharing of this lifetime aquired experience in a calm and genuine manor, easy to listen to, very intruiging... i cant praise you guys enough. 🎉👊👍🤟

  • @blackmanops3749
    @blackmanops37493 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this comprehensive cost overview and putting it all in perspective.

  • @lambchopLSX87
    @lambchopLSX8710 ай бұрын

    Man this is some great info. Great video. I think it also helps that this man looks like he just ripped a bong and is just cheesing with every word. A man who smiles when he talks truly loves what he does

  • @raul1203ful
    @raul1203ful7 ай бұрын

    I don't coment on videos ever, until today. I love your videos they're very informative and technical. The additional information gives a great understanding.

  • @sparrowdactyl9632
    @sparrowdactyl9632 Жыл бұрын

    I love how thorough Mike is, I could listen to him for hours!

  • @josels1292

    @josels1292

    Жыл бұрын

    Gay

  • @jeffreymoore4132
    @jeffreymoore4132 Жыл бұрын

    Love your vids! Thank you for the transparency and detail involved in this kind of build.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @scottmartinetti4875
    @scottmartinetti4875 Жыл бұрын

    I love it when a person knows so much about someone and are passionate about it, that they can ramble on and on. This guy can't stop smiling. 😂

  • @Force1Com

    @Force1Com

    11 ай бұрын

    I've done this a lot, put long rods into shirt skirts. I like it...

  • @Force1Com

    @Force1Com

    11 ай бұрын

    Sometimes... the rods are too long, and that creates some problems

  • @Force1Com

    @Force1Com

    11 ай бұрын

    It's good to get your engine nice and hot before you shut it off and lubrication is really cool

  • @bigmiketamayo2668
    @bigmiketamayo26685 ай бұрын

    I’m here for Mike, I dig his attention to detail along with strait experience, guys like this don’t exist to tell his level in the craft of engine building.

  • @franklynpertuz7669
    @franklynpertuz76698 ай бұрын

    You guys are great guys really break it down I've learned so much in this video I'm very grateful thank you

  • @hapyharyhard0n581
    @hapyharyhard0n5818 ай бұрын

    This just reminds me of why i miss Sport Compact Car... between mike and Dave, learned a TON!

  • @BigBoyWoogie
    @BigBoyWoogie Жыл бұрын

    I can tell you an apprenticeship working with these guys would be invaluable.

  • @LittleLadyLidbetter
    @LittleLadyLidbetter Жыл бұрын

    "We build our stuff to hold up" Keep doing great work!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! Thank you!

  • @402SHO
    @402SHO Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the breakdown on the ultra series pistons makes me feel better seeing someone explain the features

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    You are welcome.

  • @richardrohr5106
    @richardrohr5106 Жыл бұрын

    I have a suggestion. Do a 100% stock LS build with all the factory parts cryotreated and wpc treated. Show us the performance and cost. Thanks guys. Love your content.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    The trouble is no one wants to build an engine like that.

  • @christophermix6845
    @christophermix6845 Жыл бұрын

    I'm putting the same piston in my stroker, man JE makes a great piston! Love your videos! very thorough and informative.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @TheMostSmokeCrew
    @TheMostSmokeCrew Жыл бұрын

    Love you guys and appreciate all the knowledge you share ❤

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @lionsheart9406
    @lionsheart9406 Жыл бұрын

    MotoIQ, thank you so much! This is really good stuff, great information for us.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @SoftiesTruck
    @SoftiesTruck Жыл бұрын

    AWESOME CAMERA MAN! I love how he zooms on you show you all the details he's talking about : )

  • @b0ngd0nkey

    @b0ngd0nkey

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers to all the people behind the scenes that make these videos 🥂

  • @lazyhoundracing9621
    @lazyhoundracing9621 Жыл бұрын

    I learned a lot. Thank you for your time.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @chrisrogers5644
    @chrisrogers5644 Жыл бұрын

    love your Chanel and content. wish I had a project that needed one of your engines

  • @jaspermacdonald8860
    @jaspermacdonald8860 Жыл бұрын

    Great information and breakdown, thanks guys

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    You bet!

  • @StreetRacingLifeStyle
    @StreetRacingLifeStyle Жыл бұрын

    I love the depth of explanation!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank You!

  • @dennisupshaw7510
    @dennisupshaw7510 Жыл бұрын

    Mike is the goat! Love all the videos you guys make! Thank you for all the knowledge! Keep it up!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @customzdream
    @customzdream11 ай бұрын

    Awesome talk. Explained alot.

  • @FrequSpectra
    @FrequSpectra2 ай бұрын

    I can't help but feel the energy the guy on the right is trying to not laugh and it makes me 😆. Awesome content and props for sharing your hard-earned expertise 🙏

  • @DEADINSID3.

    @DEADINSID3.

    2 ай бұрын

    Bro i swear😂 dude has to be baked out of his mind.

  • @juliusryland8597
    @juliusryland85974 ай бұрын

    These guys are awesome. So much knowledge. 😂😂😂 I can’t help but laugh when I fast forward through mikes talking it sounds normal 😂. All love mike. Thanks for the moto iq!

  • @glenwickner1945
    @glenwickner1945 Жыл бұрын

    Good advice for the beginners and for advanced builders .

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it

  • @shotababy14
    @shotababy14 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff!

  • @bobbywalter9993
    @bobbywalter99939 ай бұрын

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!. cant wait for my son to watch this....there will be a test before I fund anything.

  • @johnmorris3957
    @johnmorris3957 Жыл бұрын

    Have you ever done a ls l33 build/video before? Love all your information your one of the best!!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Not yet! But we will probably do a 5.3 soon, you can do a lot to these engines with great results.

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi Жыл бұрын

    My favorite tuner channel on KZread!!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank You!

  • @umakemerandy3669
    @umakemerandy3669 Жыл бұрын

    Funny watching them explain to each other why to use a long rod lol they both know why. Love it

  • @RaddestDad
    @RaddestDad Жыл бұрын

    A remedy that I did with my LQ9 was I over filled my oil by almost 2 quarts when I used the AFM Melling oil pump. I did a ghetto sight glass in my block and used a GoPro to watch it when I ran. I judged where the oil sat with a drawn sharpie line on my oil pan with the elevation of my oil pickup tube.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    That can work!

  • @mithyc2948
    @mithyc2948 Жыл бұрын

    Great explanation on the costs of two different builds and I could listen to you both all day!! The "budget build" is spot on with what I've been calculating on my c6 GS with the stroker setup in mind and just one question. Why did you choose 418CID instead of 416CID? In my research just doing a hone on the cylinder walls was recommended as to not remove too much material from the sleeves but I'm still new to all this stuff as well. I'd like to make 650 crank hp reliably like what you guys talked about for a fun street/track weekend car.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    The bores on this engine were thrashed!

  • @mjbjw77
    @mjbjw773 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fantastic gents

  • @davntelisha19
    @davntelisha19 Жыл бұрын

    That's why I love my 2007 caddilac escalade 6.2 LS motors strong

  • @mathewross3398
    @mathewross3398 Жыл бұрын

    My MotorIQ always go`s up with every one of you vids!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @briandiehl2846
    @briandiehl2846 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! U guys are like engineers that also know how to build stuff as well! Great vids. Thank u! Ps i wish u all could build my LS1 ( 2002 Z28)

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    We can. Go to our garage services page and fill out a request.

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT2 ай бұрын

    Lots of information, lots to consider.

  • @cardboardrob1
    @cardboardrob1 Жыл бұрын

    Great information. Thanks

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    You bet!

  • @cardboardrob1

    @cardboardrob1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@motoiq where are you guys located

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Gardena, Ca

  • @angelrocha6505
    @angelrocha65059 ай бұрын

    Idk about y’all, but I cannot work on an engine unless it’s clean first! You guys are a great example of working and staying clean, attention to detail is superb.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @jaredchampagne2752
    @jaredchampagne27528 ай бұрын

    I’m sure that these guys are absolutely top notch engine builders and they make serious power and serious reliability, but I don’t think anyone who’s truly on a budget has $15-20k to drop on just a basic engine build, if they have they kind of budget they are probably just going to go full send.

  • @daren9721
    @daren9721 Жыл бұрын

    Man he smiles alot! If I had his knowledge I would be smiling like that too lol!

  • @icebawkz
    @icebawkz Жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @RandomlnternetGuy
    @RandomlnternetGuy Жыл бұрын

    AN HOUR LONG VIDEO?!?! YESSS

  • @fredhuston7865
    @fredhuston7865 Жыл бұрын

    Best professionaly explained video about LS engines I have ever seen ! These gentlemen do a fantastic job and are great to listen to. What a professional and knowledgeable team/company. Worth every penny they charge and then some. Amazing job !!!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you!

  • @jeff2932
    @jeff2932 Жыл бұрын

    This is great! I think MamoMotorsports would be proud ....

  • @A92_
    @A92_ Жыл бұрын

    Love these video's.

  • @jobber260
    @jobber2602 ай бұрын

    The budget build costs around $14,000, while the high-performance build can reach up to $28,000.

  • @ragtopdlxzl1
    @ragtopdlxzl1 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah man, the price points on both builds is right on, we did a budget build on our LSA engine and crank out about 720whp with 418cid stroker @12# boost, I maybe should have done more work on the heads...porting, shaft rockers and a dry sump would be awesome too. I like reliability in a road racer but given the nature of the beast (convertible) I doubt I will do much more... As per some of our past conversations I feel you are giving a straight talk on building a LS that is realistic and factual.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @taylorsrus9543

    @taylorsrus9543

    Жыл бұрын

    You dont want to put too much in the stock block, once you get up to 800 plus whp it is on a ticking clock to cracking a sleeve.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Head gasket seal is more of an issue at 800 plus, at about 1000 the main caps start to move.

  • @taylorsrus9543

    @taylorsrus9543

    Жыл бұрын

    @@motoiq Didn't have any head gasket issues on mine and 3 other friends, but all 3 cracked a sleeve. I think you said you like the stock head bolts tho. Either way the stock block is a fuse waiting to blow at upper HP levels.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow you cracked a sleeve at 12 psi? We generally don't see problems till more than 14 psi. Did you have good tuning? Did the broken engines show signs of detonation? I would think that the head gasket would go before you split a cylinder.

  • @jimmyramirez8844
    @jimmyramirez8844 Жыл бұрын

    Good information

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @scottmartinetti4875
    @scottmartinetti4875 Жыл бұрын

    I'm loving just listen to that California accent bro. 😂 And it's nice to finally hear actual price numbers on one of these videos!!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed!

  • @mervynmontague1811
    @mervynmontague18119 ай бұрын

    This was a Fascinating discourse 🇯🇲🍾💯

  • @jimkillen1065
    @jimkillen1065 Жыл бұрын

    I always enjoy watching these videos, to learn from . From my limited experience the things you recommend is what I like to do to the build . Especially torque plate and a proper hone .I never once been disappointed from spending money on quality parts and labor . My experience shows me a better outcome . Thanks

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear!

  • @markdonovan9247
    @markdonovan9247 Жыл бұрын

    Great Video lots of great info Do you guys Dyno the engines after you build them?

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    No we don't, we have a chassis dyno but not many people would pay to run there engine on an engine dyno, need a dyno adaptor, wire harness, ECU, a tuner. A few thousand worth of stuff. We don't have adaptors and harnesses with ECU's for every single potential engine.

  • @markdonovan9247

    @markdonovan9247

    Жыл бұрын

    @@motoiq thank you for your reply. Excellent channel.

  • @Edison73100
    @Edison73100 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent again

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks again!

  • @lacboiatl
    @lacboiatl Жыл бұрын

    That nissan maxima is so clean in the background

  • @SilverStackers
    @SilverStackers Жыл бұрын

    top tier video

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @brianbaney2360
    @brianbaney2360 Жыл бұрын

    Man this guy speaks my language 👍

  • @brucewilkey3535
    @brucewilkey3535 Жыл бұрын

    The guy is truthful beyond fault. Great choice for the video. The guy on the right should make build videos and talk you through each engine build as he does it. I would watch them. Guy on the left should stick to signing checks and what ever else he's good at.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Martin is pretty smart about motors too, give him some credit!

  • @davebarron5939
    @davebarron5939 Жыл бұрын

    This was interesting, very glad I got to see it. One question that I dont believe you covered, for a street application the only "problem area" I have found is cam bearings, is there anything you folks do to address that? Will coated bearings help there? I have put 400k on several 6.0 Iron LS engines and tear them down and find everything fine except the cam bearings. Thanks

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow we never had cam bearings go out yet on any of the motors we have built of all levels of build and use. With non priority mains they get a good supply of lube. What sort of oil pressure do you have?

  • @DC5Brandon
    @DC5Brandon Жыл бұрын

    You read my mind. I was curious on prices when compated to a K motor for a potential engine swap for a Cayman with a blown motor.

  • @hotshtsr20

    @hotshtsr20

    Жыл бұрын

    Make sure to post the swap on all the Porsche forums for maximum outrage. :)

  • @DC5Brandon

    @DC5Brandon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hotshtsr20 😂 Oh, I still have the flat 6 and love it, but it doesn't hurt to plan on contingencies when a new stock replacement flat 6 costs $25k+ 😵

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    An LS goes in there pretty good! They make swap kits too!

  • @hotshtsr20

    @hotshtsr20

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DC5Brandon well, if you’re bored, you could always post questions about it and watch the rage. :)

  • @DC5Brandon

    @DC5Brandon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hotshtsr20 LOL. My Cayman's already modified. Surely I'm cancelled somewhere.

  • @user-si3ur2lh4z
    @user-si3ur2lh4z7 ай бұрын

    Currently rebuilding seized 4.8 v8 LR4/LS. So far total cost not counting tools or any machining that may/not be needed is $600.00. Reusing block, heads, crankshaft, camshaft, valves, valve springs, piston rods and heads. Replacing everything else with new. Cheapest everything I can find.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    7 ай бұрын

    Thats great if you have no expectations on performance and possibly reliability.

  • @maxfieldenterprise3160
    @maxfieldenterprise31606 ай бұрын

    I'm aiming to build up a 3.8 engine in my 97 sn mustang any videos or ideas to add more positive and keep that factory look

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    6 ай бұрын

    So far there has been zero interest in that engine and little aftermarket support. Recommend you sell the car and buy a V8 one, its easier and cheaper in the long run with tons more options.

  • @flybygaming9678
    @flybygaming9678 Жыл бұрын

    Owner of a 05 CTSV here. Just wondering what site or company y'all would recommend for valve cover, head and lower intake manifold gaskets. I believe I have a slight leak in one of those causing white smoke and some over temp issues. Thank you and God bless.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    If it has a stockish valvetrain without shaft rockers, etc, we like Holley because, well we like how they look. There are many good ones on the market though. Just look for ones that have sturdy rails where the gasket goes and a baffle plate for the PVC. for gaskets, OEM is very good and lacking that Fel-Pro is also good.

  • @zslemp
    @zslemp Жыл бұрын

    Have you guys at motoiq ever used extrusion honing on any engine parts like a intake or exhaust or heads?

  • @omardsm2323

    @omardsm2323

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I’m wondering too

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes we have. It works pretty good on OEM intake manifolds and turbo turbine housings.

  • @zslemp

    @zslemp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@motoiq awesome. I have been thinking about getting my exhaust manifold and turbine housing done for a while now. I guess I just need to do it.

  • @jerico5660
    @jerico5660 Жыл бұрын

    How do you guys feel about 4032 Forged piston for strength and longevity? How power levels would you expect? What about the wear of a stroker vs stock (piston speed)?

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    4032 is ok for an NA motor, forced induction 2618 is the way to go. All of the top piston manufactures have learned a lot about how to make 2618 piston quieter and less slappy over the last few years so the popularity of 4032 has declined.

  • @sleepydragonzarinthal3533
    @sleepydragonzarinthal3533Ай бұрын

    Every video ive seen, when Mike says "california 91 pump gas" he always looks down, trails off, almost loses that signature smile, like its the saddest thing in the world. Youd think he was recalling a long passed pet or friend, the way his heart aches to build an engine that runs on 91 jumps right off the screen, i hurt with him, and now i think about it every time i fill up my stock lil NA 11 mini cooper with 93. I feel for ya Mike, keep that chin up

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Ай бұрын

    Our gas is amazingly bad....

  • @sleepydragonzarinthal3533

    @sleepydragonzarinthal3533

    Ай бұрын

    @@motoiq yeah, I just did some reading on it, they make weak gas but call it environmentally friendly even though worse mpg and negative engine impact seems to be a net negative. I can't say much, here in Texas we have a lot of phony environmental laws too, but at least we have some good 93. If i ever end up K swapping the mini, I hope you guys have a mini K swap video I can follow, id probably have to do the engine build and swap myself for funding sake. I want to get around 400HP with a supercharged K24 and either make it RWD or AWD. The stock engine is a BMW 1.6L prince engine with 70k miles, so the clock is ticking fast haha

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Ай бұрын

    The bad thing is our gas might be worse for the environment because the mileage is worse so you burn more of it and it take more energy to refine it.

  • @murdersaab8999
    @murdersaab89997 ай бұрын

    I'm building and lh6 all aluminum 5.3 liter LS came with the Gen 4 rods and 3 bolt camshaft is coming together pretty good

  • @cammando117
    @cammando117 Жыл бұрын

    One day ill have you guys build my VQ

  • @dano4572
    @dano4572 Жыл бұрын

    GREAT NUMBERS! ILL USE YOU PEOPLE NEXT TIME.

  • @GregoryBrettin
    @GregoryBrettin Жыл бұрын

    You guys basically proved why doing an LS build WELL isn't cheap. I've done an extensive stock block LC9 build and spent a fair amount of coin getting it done right so that I can have reliability and longevity for my twin turbo LS swap in my 370z. I'll direct people to this video on why things cost what they do.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Good idea!

  • @libertyprime344

    @libertyprime344

    Жыл бұрын

    I finding this out first hand lol. I wanted to use most of the stock components of the dirty lq4 that I bought for $300CAD and oh boy did I ever get what I paid for the damn thing never seen a oil change so I’m basically replacing everything and boring the cylinders out because two of them were oval. I’m into it for about $4000USD at this point and I’m still not done buying shit for it.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Good thing you can bore those over a lot! LQ's have a ton of potential.

  • @GregoryBrettin

    @GregoryBrettin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@libertyprime344 Yeah man. I had something similar. I bought a "low milage" engine. The cylinders were out of round (slightly) and the cylinder walls were pitted from water. I was planning on taking it to the machine shop anyway... but I paid a premium for the whole engine, that made me salty.

  • @midnight347

    @midnight347

    Жыл бұрын

    But but but the internet said you can do ls swap for 500-1000 bucks come on man don't lie we know the truth! Lmao jk. I sure hope my sarcasm shows through.

  • @RaddestDad
    @RaddestDad Жыл бұрын

    I’m waiting for the aftermarket to catch up with the current OEMs. I’m waiting for direct injection ECMs. I know MoTec offers direct injection compatibility but that is in their m182

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    A few stand alones can control DI with an injector driver box.

  • @dasfahrer8187
    @dasfahrer8187 Жыл бұрын

    What can you do for engines in spec racing series (spec e46, spec miata, etc...)?

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, you try to get the best ring and valve seal, get the most flow out of the valve seat area and get the clearances just right to get your friction low.

  • @richadthompson3655
    @richadthompson36556 ай бұрын

    Do you guys do anything with hyundai engine? 2.0 turbo

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    6 ай бұрын

    It is basically a 4B11 engine.

  • @tomjones5974
    @tomjones5974 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Keep living the dream. Don't let the haters, window shoppers and tire kickers suck you down to their level.

  • @RaddestDad
    @RaddestDad Жыл бұрын

    The Mast Motorsports Mozez head is another all out racing head. I believe they have been on an 1,100hp NA 416ci

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Mast has good stuff!

  • @RaddestDad

    @RaddestDad

    Жыл бұрын

    @@motoiq I may be wrong but I believe SAM, School of Automotive Machinists, built an all out NA 4th Gen Camaro drag car with some insanely exotic cylinder heads.

  • @PrismIsAPuck
    @PrismIsAPuck Жыл бұрын

    Do you guys do any of the new gen V LT stuff?

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    We haven't yet beyond full bolt ons but there is no reason why we couldn't build a mean one.

  • @PrismIsAPuck

    @PrismIsAPuck

    Жыл бұрын

    @motoiq I would love to see yall get into building a mean stroker n/a LT1 setup! Would love to hear some of the knowledge Mike would have to offer about the LT platform!

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh man, we love that engine too. With just bolt-ons, we exceeded what a stock LS7 can do. With heads and cams, we think another 60 whp easy!

  • @Mike-gf7fi
    @Mike-gf7fi Жыл бұрын

    I think you guys are great but there’s some videos on KZread measuring bores with and without torque plates showing that they don’t work.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually you bore an engine with a torque plate and measure it with the torque plate off, and the bore will really be out of round. Its super easy to prove they work.

  • @ralphcruz8484
    @ralphcruz84849 ай бұрын

    How do you feel about titanium rods and Epcot treat them , what would that cost be

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    9 ай бұрын

    Don't normally use them. people don't want to pay for them.

  • @robertratcliff2441
    @robertratcliff244121 күн бұрын

    I'm definitely in school right now

  • @zigazackwrx17
    @zigazackwrx17 Жыл бұрын

    Can you explain how putting the head on the block could distort it. My thought is if the blocks mating surface is flat and the head is flat. You're just putting two flat surfaces together. How does that create distortions in the cylinders. If something wasn't true between the two surfaces I could see the torque moving things around.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    The force generated by the torque on the bolts in the block, it tweaks the bores, as much as 0.0015". Subaru's even more!

  • @ernestjohnson1807

    @ernestjohnson1807

    Жыл бұрын

    It's an old school thought. When clearances where no where near what they are now. Now it's mostly a sales gimmick.

  • @kylechapman3547
    @kylechapman3547 Жыл бұрын

    I have a 2002 z28 camaro m6 that needs some love engine wise.. shes been driven hard for the better part of 12 years or so ish. Oil changes have been done when they were supposed to everytime. But I’ve had a lot of issues with my ltft. Being pegged at 25. And a slew of other smaller issues most of which I’ve have completed by myself over time fuel pump fuel filter water pumps radiator starters alternators. You get it. It’s my second car and got the car around 92k miles and now she’s got 216k miles I’ve ported the tb and swapped exhaust with a slp LM1 cat back. Still has original cats I’ve also swapped the header gaskets and bolts but I do have a snapped bolt in the passanger rear. but I’m assuming the engine needs rebuilding.. just bevause miles and this and that… or at least a freshen up I’m assuming. Any chance you guys would want to take on this challenge I’ve been to every shop in the Bay Area and everyone seems to have some kinda issues or not do this or that and it’s just so hard to find a hood shop and you guys seem to actual like to do this and pay attention to detail. Where are you guys located anyway?

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    If you have an exhaust leak from that snapped bolt, that would wreck havoc with your LTFT.

  • @kylechapman6891

    @kylechapman6891

    Жыл бұрын

    @MotoIQ yeah I kinda figured in turn that would be making me run very lean and waste a ton of gas..what else would get messed up if not fixed promptly though. I'm still learning the effects of ltft and stft.. it's also been giving me a very annoying ticking noise... not on start up when cold but only when it reaches full temp. Like I mean like clockwork. Cold start sounds fine and runs ok until it hits temp them ticking like crazy which goes up and down as you accelerate. But goes away if I increase acceleration above 3k it'll go away but will come back if I'm at a light and idle for too long. Which I'm hoping isn't anything more serious than an exhaust leak at the exhaust manifold. The rockers and everything inside the valve covers all seem tight and didn't move when inspected

  • @mmejia7257
    @mmejia7257 Жыл бұрын

    What about machine work for new LSX block to a 454?

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    The cost to machine is the same no matter what the displacement is.

  • @user-yr8cy6gw3o
    @user-yr8cy6gw3o5 ай бұрын

    i have a question that may bring some expansion fact's we all know the tq blocks important but well you punch or machine bore/hone do you guys heat your blocks and oil being we all talk about running temps and oil pressure oil flow vallys ect ive yet to see one block sitting at 180f well being blue printed and specs met to our best means possible. im just saying the heated running temp engine is expanded a little any oil/ fluid gallys would mean on warm up and running temp theres going to be slightly more expan making a ob longed bore am i wrong or no? i'm not saying the engine ould last last longer if its bored well hot but i feel your the pro and why not try.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    5 ай бұрын

    That would be the best way but no one in our area does that.

  • @firstielasty1162
    @firstielasty11625 ай бұрын

    I'm curious about the power gained by reduced frictional losses in the valve train. Any power lost to friction shows up as heat, 745.7 watts worth of it for each hp lost. That 20-30 hp lost with a stock valvetrain turns into 15-20,000 watts worth of heat. That's a lot. It's hard to believe it doesn't result in localized overheating of the parts causing the friction...it's even pretty significant when compared to the whole cooling system capacity. I've read or heard similar numbers from a few places, I guess I believe it's about right, but it seems like an awful lot of heat for a few lifters and rocker arm pivots, even with the oil flow. Maybe the temp is climbing constantly at high rpm and everything only survives due to the short, intermittent time spent like this? Any insight on that?

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    5 ай бұрын

    The valve springs get really hot, red hot sometimes, its why for some racing like oval track and road racing, you need oil sprayers.

  • @firstielasty1162

    @firstielasty1162

    4 ай бұрын

    I thought you meant that the gains were due to reduced frictional losses...the valve springs are there and have to deal with heat due to hysteresis no matter what type of rockers open them...heating of valve springs and heat due to rocker arm pivot friction are somewhat independent. If 20-30 hp is lost due to rocker friction, it has to be making that much heat at the point of friction, which just sounds awfully high. Hard to believe. That's 10 or 15 toaster ovens worth! Every watt goes somewhere, can't "disappear".

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    4 ай бұрын

    A lot of that heat is dissipated by the oil flow and the rockers have a lot. The sliding trunnions have a lot of point load. Sometimes you can see bluing of these parts which is pretty amazing due to the oil flow these get. I also think a lot of the power is due to improved valve motion due to more direct translation of motion from the cam. I have never logged oil temp in an A to B comparison, it would be interesting to do so.

  • @corylangston8764
    @corylangston8764 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve wanted to restore an old car ever since selling my first car out of necessity. Now I dream of building an engine without any idea of what I would even put it in. Great info here but the perfectionist in me means this hobby will always be out of my budget. Maybe ignorance truly is bliss…😢

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT2 ай бұрын

    What’s your view on a 2002 LS engine in my 2002 Camaro SS? What’s worth upgrading for extra hp?

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    2 ай бұрын

    It's a great engine.

  • @devineunlimited6800
    @devineunlimited6800 Жыл бұрын

    Good breakdown, alot of dudes think they can build the dopest LS for a grand.

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    They go boom or they don't get driven.

  • @midnight347

    @midnight347

    Жыл бұрын

    But it's just soooo cheap the internet said so!!!! Lol

  • @mafialeventis7162
    @mafialeventis7162 Жыл бұрын

    Is there a possiblity you guys make a video on M50B28 or M52B28 Engine ?

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    Жыл бұрын

    You should read our 323is Project articles

  • @jaxjax5322
    @jaxjax532211 ай бұрын

    Make a video about the LSX block

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    11 ай бұрын

    We did

  • @jaxjax5322

    @jaxjax5322

    11 ай бұрын

    @@motoiq send me the link too watch it please 🙏

  • @motoiq

    @motoiq

    11 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/hnZ7upSxfJe9eLg.html turbo version

  • @doctorwhodj
    @doctorwhodj2 ай бұрын

    Eagle is a great brand for internals.

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