Back in the day when I was DJ'ing at clubs in the late 90's early 00's, DJ's were getting paid $150-$200 for an hour set and you would have to hunt down the promoter all night so you could get your money.

@simonprice1938

5 жыл бұрын

Always get paid prior to gig... After all your there your set up.and ready to go... fucking hate promoters. Snakes the lot...

@qwertandrew8720

4 жыл бұрын

Use to wear the same shoes Bro

"I dont know what I would do with all that money, probably just buy more gear"..... hahaha I like your way of thinking, 10/10 would do the same, Deadmau5 has it all figured out, his home studio is amazing.

@treamx3659

5 жыл бұрын

Its confusing to me (looking at deadmau5 studio)

@mattkaczmarczyk6953

4 жыл бұрын

I would buy a huge plot of land on a lake, make a FUN pad to inspire creativity.. we’re creators could come to jam & loose track of time! Or just a party bus like the 1s @ burning man

@wlhlmbrkn5431

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattkaczmarczyk6953 Great idea

Nice work mate. Been there done it but always good to here that fundamentals are always the same. Keep up the videos. PEACE

Next video: Earning as a producer only Plz. . .

@cyb3roiide897

5 жыл бұрын

ouh yes!

@apeksh3063

5 жыл бұрын

Ohhhh yeah... please

@abrahamrodriguezpineda1848

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing, producers DJ because that’s how they make money and it goes for the big mainstream artists too (Beyoncé, Drake, Travis Scott, Tiësto, Martin Garrix etc) it’s not just about making music now to make money sure you can get SOME money but if you want a good amount of money you sell music

@duboi1475

5 жыл бұрын

Firepluto be a ghost producer for a DJ... Most labels are buying tracks from producers on contract ... say $400 for a track meeting certain criteria... the artist is forgoing the royalties in order to be released on said label .. that label then promotes their song and pushes it to sales to recoupe their fee... the producer then books gigs "djing" based off their tracks popularity. If you prefer not performing team up with a local or distant DJ .. have him be the face and you the music and you split the $ earned from bookings ... Works for stanton warriors

@firepluto6128

5 жыл бұрын

@@duboi1475 thanks bro for sharing ur knowledge

I want to see you playing carnaval music in a wedding.. Cammon man.. do it for the money... hahahahahahaha.

i love your honesty (especially about not liking to play Weddings)

This video is useful for me. Thank you so much for making this. I want to know more about the music busyness and about DJs.

Schlager... and that kind of shit🤣. I totalt feel you man!

Thanks Jon for this video.

Fantastic insight, great video!

Your videos are always informative

personally i couldnt care less about what i got paid as long as i could travel the world playing music i love for likeminded people. soon.

@pliniogoiania

5 жыл бұрын

Yea me too, for me it's a labor of love and art for art sake. Good luck for us!

@sebastianlagundzija8001

5 жыл бұрын

Truth man!!

@incrediblehulk2665

4 жыл бұрын

@@pliniogoiania where's your music?

@pliniogoiania

4 жыл бұрын

@@incrediblehulk2665 I'm not publishing yet, only practicing atm!

@TheFunkIsThis

4 жыл бұрын

Lol but you need money to travel the world buddy

I’ve really got to go visit your studio one day Jon

lol classic John "don't know what to do with it... probably just buy more gear" - NGL the first thing I'd do with a £250,000 pay check is get an SSL Duality Delta console!

One thing I noticed... I am a DJ and I got payed on my second gig and I made 100 dollars. This may be a rare but I found because I have gear,lights and my own speakers. So I now charge 200-300 for about 2-5 hours to come to partys and venues like music events.. I open for artists in my city to hype up the crowd before they come out and I also get some events where I just DJ but I huge tip I would give to people starting out is invest what you make to create a brand/name for yourself

I'm singing and playing the guitar in a cover band, we have combined the bands gigs with me as the DJ at weddings and other private parties a few times. We play the pop/rock songs with the band, after we finish I go to the DJ booth and plays electronic music for an extra hour. Works pretty good, I'm doing it aprox 4 times every summer but I played as a DJ every weekend 20 years ago. Then it was vinyl, now it's USB and other songs! That's the biggest difference. 😀

deadmau5 is gonna get 1m $ for Ultra exclusive set bringing the new cube design 3.0 + on top of that he is doing a testpilot set (techno alias) also headliner of ultra.And he is doing that on beyond,edc,ultra and creamfields this year just to name a few.. so yeah

Dear Jon, could you please make a vid about: 1) the defenision of track, single and an album. 2) putting your song/mix etc online, like different platforms. What is the best platforms, because I read that some platforns get the copyright when you upload your 'art' on their platform. 3) how do the radio stations get your song and is it true that you don't earn money from it? 4) could you share your experience about collabs, like: how do you approach the artists and how does the copyright work in this case? I hope you can make a vid about these subjects, because you have a lot experience. I hope we can collab in the future. Fly out

I’m thinking about to DJ again. My last (paid) gig is over 10 years ago... I’m more comfortable in the studio making music, playing instruments and working on sound design. I know it earns me less money but that’s not my goal. I do what I like and even my main genre is quite niche at the moment (mainly Trance) But nevertheless I like it to DJ once in a while so I’m considering to buy myself a capable DJ set to get in to it (again)

Been djing for 20 years now. If it were for the money I wouldn’t do it. It’s all about happiness. Who cares about money seriously. 😅

@volodymyrkryvonos4313

Жыл бұрын

Anyway you have to pay your bills and cover living expenses. At the end of the day you want something to eat and have place to stay. Money doesn’t equal happiness, but they can make your life a lot easier and turn many problems just into expanse.

great video!

Hi Jon, Thanks for the great information. Usually in Las Vegas, there is a really good dj opening for the superstar dj. The opening dj typically is on from around 10pm til 1pm. Do you have any idea the range of how much this opening dj gets paid?

Good point

Would love to hear more from Sebastian. Looking for some analog sauce ....

Thank you

I work for 25€ per night guys here in belgrade, although it ain't hard mixing our songs 😕

The most expensive one is (or was) Calvin Harris, earning 350k-500k per gig (1h). Garrix 1-2 years ago was around 150k, I don't know nowadays... You would need to buy 5 more studios like the one you have to be able to have all the gear you would buy with that money 😂

@abhishek-cc8vp

5 жыл бұрын

Who do the traveling cost do djs do spend their money on travel to the show or the people who booked dj for show they do pay money for all the hotel and flight or do dj have to book his own flight with his money and hotel

@officaldjkarma9668

5 жыл бұрын

Calvin harris makes up to 1mil per a gig in vegas :D

@wildcrowmusic

5 жыл бұрын

@@officaldjkarma9668 not sure about it...

@bokifetish7735

5 жыл бұрын

skrilex at exit festival got 100k for 1h gig

@vkmusicz8160

5 жыл бұрын

Hey wildcrow ..... can i get dj tutorial from you bro?

11:10 - 11:30 Timed & delivered to near perfection!! x'DDD Cracked me up!! xD

the NO NO for wedding made me take off my hat 4u.

Thank you very much I never knew about this Ghost stuff

A friend of mine is getting married and he hired a dj that is charging 1500€ for the wedding.

Great tip, like it when you play for free & to prove that you can actually play to real crowd, which I have actually done ✅ to 500 people it was a success

I’m in Düsseldorf tomorrow!😊

Schlager 😂😂

@yilayer6

5 жыл бұрын

muss aber echt nicht sein 🤣

good information

I’ve never been to an studio before I wanna learn how!

How to build music collection..pools etc ... please make a video

Hahahaha ich lach mich schlapp Dj Pipi Dj Kotze and German Schlager hahahaha So true ❤️

Nice

Can you do a video showing your DJ skills one day ....

My respect for him when he said that he hates schlager 📈📈📈😂

@BeamDeam

2 жыл бұрын

Relatable

Can you please do a video on how djs get their first gigs?

@djtuskan

5 жыл бұрын

find venue, promote it it, play.

Someone should make a complicationvideo about "Jon Sine and the Truckers"

If it wasn't for ghost/co-production, I can guarantee your favourite tracks and DJs wouldn't exist.

@treamx3659

5 жыл бұрын

Wht bout jon

@XFAiDERse

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! That back-end is and has always been critical! Also, in other industries, they do the same thing - so I don't see ghost-producing as something "shocking" or "bad". Sometimes, it just makes sense to do it, so, why not? As a car guy, I oftenly compare the music-industry to the automotive-industry & motorsport, there are so many similarities. For example, one manufacturer build their cars from, practically, nose to tail all under one roof (and can't imagine working with subcontractors) - while others put the car together with parts & services from subcontractors and believes that it's the best way to get the act together (Audi's LMP1 programme in WorldEnduranceChampionship, before they had to leave due to cost-cutting measures). Everyone can have an opinion on which is better - but the car that crosses the finish-line first wins -regardless!

@pranayavnish8028

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah true , just take a look at avicii's previous live stream, at least 7 people were helping him produce a track and he was just there humming some notes.

@MattVorn

5 жыл бұрын

Of course there's exceptions, however any DJ that is touring a lot and also claims to be a producer most likely relies on ghost producers to finish their ideas. Usually within the world of ghost production, you may find that guys like Tiesto would come up with an initial idea and then he'd have guys simply finish the idea. Then every other track, he probably wouldn't even be the one conceptualising the track.@@treamx3659

@MattVorn

5 жыл бұрын

The thing is, don't confuse ghost production with co-production. As a producer your job is to oversee the production, by definition a producer shouldn't be composing, arranging mixing etc... Avicii had full control in those studio sessions, he just used the best musicians he could find to give his ideas the best shot. @@pranayavnish8028

I would be very happy, if i can get a chance to play for more than 30 people in a club 😂

"at weddings you have to play schlager and that kind of shit... I will never do that regardless of who asks me" LOL

What if I do not live in a techno town? Should I move to EU? Is there a way I could make a comprehensive plan before investing in such a move (from a continent to another)?

I am right with you on being a Wedding DJ. I just do not want to do that. I want to stick to the genre I love.

Keeping it real

I have always wanted to do it but never got into it

I did performed in the past and did local gigs and I actually earned some money the first time back then, €20 for 3 hours.. but hey it was something! And the drinks were free. Maybe I will pick it up again. It’s been a long time ago since my last small gig.

Who do the traveling cost do djs do spend their money on travel to the show or the people who booked dj for show they do pay money for all the hotel and flight or do dj have to book his own flight with his money and hotel

Calvin Harris 750k+ Tiesto 500k+ Martin Garrix is easy @ 400k+ Skrillex and Diplo are high 2 Afrojack is @ 100k (got no ghost producer) Hardwell is on 150k+ (got no ghost producer 2) Drake @ XS Vegas 10 Shows 10 Mil 👀

@eagle5727

5 жыл бұрын

Marshmello gets maybe same than Garrix

@jamiec4478

5 жыл бұрын

Tiesto and David Guetta are around 300-350K, Martin Garrix will be below that.

Sir you have lot of knowledge about djing so why cant play in ultra music or tomarroland now a days plz say something

@OriginalBurnout

5 жыл бұрын

He defo had the skills but playing at these venues is all about marketing...

martin garrix had a gig in china which he was paid 1M EURO

This video makes sense ;)

Very very very very helpful video - the timing couldn't be better on my part. Now it'll be way easier to build plans and strategies for my near & long term future! Huge thanks!! This vid pretty much confirmed all my theories - I feel very confident in where I'm going and where I've been going. Also; Big thanks to all the peepz here in the comment-section as always! Your info is just as valuable! :) :)

@fellowpedestrian8508

5 жыл бұрын

Goodluck man

probably,.. just a buy more gear :D made my day Haha .. Me to as well :)

I would buy a huge plot of land on a lake, make a FUN pad to inspire creativity.. we’re creators could come to jam & loose track of time! Or just a party bus like the 1s @ burning man

Hello am a beginner Dj, it’s been a year and half that I started, is right for me to download songs or buy its or I do the two

how do you start to be a ghost producer?

thanks jon!

branding is key to achieve those million gigs

Jon Sine & The MIstery of the Trash Can

Where I can find the complete interview from Robin Schulz and his manager?

@Jonsine

5 жыл бұрын

It was juste the manager. And I‘m pretty sure it wasn’t recorded.

@bennyadolphs7419

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jonsine ah ok, thanks buddy :)

Hey! Sorry it’s just my passion is producing Beats, not DJing how can I make money??

Ive had 3 releases on revealed and one on nik cooper but have never got any gigs yet

@ntk1897

5 жыл бұрын

Max Sound link?

Interesting

*opens video* *listen to first 3 seconds* *closes video*

@Jonsine

5 жыл бұрын

At least you took your time to leave this nice comment😜

@escesounds.8916

5 жыл бұрын

hahaha, I watched the whole thing actually, but I love that you answered the question in the title right away even before your intro. I love your videos, best wishes man!

@Jonsine

5 жыл бұрын

😜👍

Would you play techno only set in my weddings?

How much ghost producers make?

Would like to know what Jon thinks about buying equipment? Are midi controllers ok or do you have to use cdj?

@brawlerz1299

4 жыл бұрын

CDJs are the main standard with Rekordbox. Midi controllers if you are going in LIVE. (Messing with your own sounds while playing the music)

@harryh3203

4 жыл бұрын

@@brawlerz1299 not everyone uses rekordbox though. Alot use Traktor, Virtual DJ, Serato etc I am more interested in what club owners think about the use of midi controllers as these are by far the most commonly used by younger and up and coming djs.

@muratti72muc

4 жыл бұрын

@@harryh3203 depends on the Club. Smaller Bar and Club with 50-100 guests don't have a big gear like CDJs or a DJMs mixers. The just have the Soundsystem with the maybe a small mixer or you have to go direct to the Amp. So you have to bring your gear. Also little bigger Clubs where you play as a NoName DJ it doesn't care the owner what gear you use. The music and sound quality must be good and you must catch the crowed. In smaller clubs the midi controllers are no problem because of quality, because the don't have +100.000$ Soundsystem. But i prefer to play with the club gear, then i don't have to carry so much. USB drive or Laptop and Headphones thats it. ;-)

@harryh3203

4 жыл бұрын

@@muratti72muc I noticed that in the Traktor S series stuff info they mention their soundcards are big club quality. Plenty of the bigger techno artists use midi controllers in conjunction with higher end mixers (Richie Hawtin, Rebekah). Like you said it seems to be the audio interface thats the critical part, just unfortunate alot of the smaller midi controllers do not have good quality soundcards.

Love your videos buddy. Where in Germany are you? Anywhere near Wolfsburg by any chance..??

Wow one hour one million

I also live in Germany, How would i get my first gig? I usuallyplay at private partys on new year and sometimes birthdays but i would like to play in clubs. Do i contact the club directly or who is responsible for bookings in German clubs?

@scuevas1

5 жыл бұрын

maybe get a well connected manager? or “network” with other DJs in your area. eventually you’ll find a connection to a local club and start from there.

I never heard someone to say that he misses his trash.

Payment first then gig.

Imagine if you don’t have any own tracks and had to collect 30songs/1stage for each week on your residence club.

8:20 : Ghost Produc...(realizes mistake) co-producer

White version of electro boom

Jon-ny sine

if djing comes from a genuine passion for music, that is one of best cure for ourselves (and we hope for other people want listen great music we play) if djing comes from will to be rich, that is only $€ money in the eyes and bad people around us.. ..keep a 9to5 job and dijing for pleasure..if you'll earn some 100s $€ that it's fine, if you'll don't it doesn't matter.. :)

I have a really big question about getting my first gig. Should I directly contact small bars In my city or will that look unprofessional?

@rhukiebeats

5 жыл бұрын

@DJAnarchyRmX Thanks for the tip!

I would set up a charity if I earned that amount of money.

Hello sir im a very big fan of yours and i want to release my music in your label so can you tell me some details please

@XFAiDERse

5 жыл бұрын

Very well! But you gotta go to: www.axsens-music.com/contact in order to get the discussion started for real. I might be the only one, but, I wouldn't discuss business like this in public, in a comment section. Instead; I strongly suggest you to send an email and a demo to; Axsens-music's mail: hello@axsens-music.com Demo submissions: fanlink.to/demo Best of success! Cheers! (Btw, I'm not working for Axsens, I'm just trying to be nice ;)

I have a question, you said it will take a year to be ready for a gig, but does it seriously take that much time? I cant believe that

@muratti72muc

4 жыл бұрын

depends what kind of gig. I don't have a playlist but i know my songs and cue points, also i have loops, effects and other features. Some of the older DJ like Carl Cox, Sven Väth, Hawtin, etc. also have no finish Set. They know there songs and have maybe a folder with 300-400 songs he picked before and he plays then 100 songs in 5 hours. It's super boring when you play always the same Set like Guetta, Aoki, Marshmello, Romero, Garrix, R.Schulz, etc. When they play at this big shows like Tomorrowland the have a finish Mix and press only at start at the beginning. Then they act a little and play a little with the effects. ;-) This mixes makes a employee DJ of Guetta, Aoki, Garrix, etc. for them.

Sir im a disc jocky i want a job in out off country im from india ....🙌

Well yeah but Guetta couldn't even properly spin a record, that or just too lazy, idk, but he just faked it a lot of the times. I've seen most big names from like ten fifteen years ago at least once, Van Dyk I saw three times over up-close, Väth, Tiësto, Van Buuren, Daft Punk, Prodigy (RIP Keith :( ), ... ... ... Guetta was the only one I ever caught literally faking his performance. I would've known cause I was a dj myself back then... I've heard about a few others back in the day that were being accused of it, but him I saw myself. He saw me looking at him like 'wtf' too, right after he kind of saved his moves... Too late though. Mind this was like ten years ago, so perhaps along the way he did learn, must have...

@simonriley983

5 жыл бұрын

My favorite performance of his was when he was high on tomorrowland lol

Sounds like you can make some good money. So, when are you going to get back to DJing, Jon Sine?

@Jonsine

5 жыл бұрын

It’s not that easy unfortunately to get the gigs at the Moment but hopefully soon

@TonyThomas10000

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jonsine Is this a trend? Laidback Luke says the audience for dance music is fading. It seems like pop is replacing it for the most part. This will affect a lot of DJs other than the top ones that play festivals and Vegas.

@Jonsine

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think so. edm got so big that some make songs that are part of dem and pop but people will still go to clubs I think it's bigger than ever and it will stay in one form or another

@TonyThomas10000

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jonsine OK, I hope you can find some gigs and perhaps do a bit of touring.

EDM DJ’s make big money, but the more underground or older pioneering Dj/Producers of House or Techno are underpaid

Tiesto never made a song himself. Oof

Is he german?

you may get to know and do not produce music ?

Ok so I guess I will die broke anyway

Being a wedding dj made me quit. Drunk bridemades and ethnic songs all day.

@PavanMS87

5 жыл бұрын

Buhahahah

@simonprice1938

5 жыл бұрын

Wedding ??????? Must be joking, worse things to do.. avoid like the wind..

I was playing horrible shit on a Russian businessman's birthday party. One dude came up to me and said: if I don't turn the music down l will Punish you.

It's a shame it has nothing to do with music - Just marketing, image and branding. Corporate shit.

Du hast mich 100 Mal bezahlt ...

what is money? pft....

I think someones trying to get at your deleted songs and samples out of the trash bins.. to make a hit !