Shortly before Nelson became president, he gave a conference talk about keeping the sabbath day holy. He summarized it by saying "Make the sabbath day a delight." That's when I stopped going to church on Sunday.

@laurawonka-hardisty83

Жыл бұрын

Lol!!! Love that! I mean, you were following his word so🤷‍♀️

I just got into an argument with an active member about whether or not the church requires tithing for worship. She was like, the church doesn’t force you to pay. I was like did they change the temple recommend interviews? You have to pay tithing to go to the temple. She was like, not if you lie to the bishop during your interview. I was floored. I never even considered lying to the bishop to fake being worthy for temple attendance.

@savannahsmiles1797

Жыл бұрын

doesn't that defeat the whole worthy/holiness requirement. Lie to the Bishop, really?

@amberinthemist7912

Жыл бұрын

This seems like a very common tactic among people who are currently in and refuse to see how the church harms people with it's never-ending demand for perfectly following all the rules. Afterall the church isn't harmful if you just ignore the rules and lie about it to your fellow mormons.

@arielacalderon2105

Жыл бұрын

People are not perfect, bishops might not know if they’re lying. Also paying a tithing is completely up to you. Attending to the temple is something sacred that requires sacrifice and a deep understanding of what it means. And tithings are used to build temples and help members. That is why they ask about it

@HomestarJr

Жыл бұрын

@@arielacalderon2105 this was a story about a believing member of the church who claimed you don’t have to pay tithing to go to the temple because you could lie to the bishop in a temple recommend interview. Temple attendance is not free for honest members of the church because it requires a full tithe. If you have a job, and you want to attend the temple, it is required to pay a full tithe. I paid a full tithe for 42 years and attended the temple religiously hoping for light and knowledge that never came. How dare you imply I haven’t sacrificed enough for a deep understanding of either tithing or the temple.

@utah133

Жыл бұрын

​@@arielacalderon2105 They have enough money to build a temple on every city block.

I asked my seminary teacher about eating meat sparingly, back in 1990, and he replied with, "We're in a spiritual famine."

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

What 💀😂

@markkrispin6944

Жыл бұрын

That is such a retarded answer. I am not surprised at all considering it was a seminary "teacher". What a joke!

@GoingApeCostume

Жыл бұрын

@@ExmoLex Maybe the reply was sort of pointed. I was the inactive kid full of questions who won all the scripture chases because I actually read the books. This was Utah County seminary. My next year's teacher was warned and could not believe that with all I knew, why why why didn't I believe? Ham at funerals Brother Young, it was ham at allll the funerals.

@iridiumion

Жыл бұрын

@@GoingApeCostume Of course. Brigham Young was all about the curse of Ham.

@kentthalman4459

Жыл бұрын

oh my... mental gymnastics in play

From an exmormon who was forced into the religion never believing it, your content is always so enjoyable and gives great points and perspectives for anyone familiar with the religion to reflect upon. Keep it up ❤️

As someone who recently left the church (5 months ago)(pimo, currently in laurels/young womens) and was born into/grew up in the church, on the girls' side of things they absolutely still push the multiply and replenish the earth commandment, but in a more subtle way. They're not as up front about it as they used to be, but you'll hear phrases in young women's like "When you have kids" or "Once you're a mom" and of course there are people who talk about how much they love their kids and being a parent in sacrament meeting. I have ~28 first cousins on my mom's side (my grandparents converted during their early marriage) because my grandparents had 9 kids and 7 of them have children of their own - and there are plenty of jokes about how many great-grandchildren there will be.

i think the thing that i got stressed about the most was "read the scriptures daily" because my parents specifically were always emphasizing it. Like, it's one of the biggest things that I'd feel like a 'sinner' about, just because I struggle so much to keep a daily habit, including, y'know, reading a book that was comparatively really boring (I've prefered fantasy my whole life lmao)

@clemensbock7434

Жыл бұрын

What a good thing that the book of mormon is fantasy too!

The face cards blew me away. Unreal. I'm so glad you guys escaped that. I was raised in an extreme form of catholicism, so I totally get it.

This really opened my eyes to how my family was more Mormon then most. and my parents still are. To this day they never swear, never drink tea/coffee and hardly drink caffeine, NEVER watch rated R movies. Never work/ shop/ go out on Sunday. Always wear garments. that isn't even an option. my dad was excommunicated during my childhood and him wearing regular boxers were so degrading for him. once he got rebaptized they probably burned the devils undies. There has not been a single time my parents didn't pay tithing. Even when they had nothing tithing and fast offerings was top priority. it's crazy how many were 10 for me. that now have no hold on my life.

This is wild to me because I can’t fathom a version of the church where they don’t guilt and shame you about every little thing. Then again, I haven’t stepped foot in a chapel since 2002.

I find that Mormons that live in Utah, especially Utah County, adhere to and still live by most if not all of these teachings. I absolutely find being a "Utah Mormon" is so different than living elsewhere. I absolutely knew about all of these teachings. I am coming up on 8 years out of the church but lived over 30 years in the church. Utah Mormonism is a whole different life.

One of the main reasons I get on YT is to see your enlightening and supportive content. I am disassociated from my TBM family and gladly welcome you as part of my surrogate ex-Mo family.

As a kid in the '70s and '80s, we were forbidden from playing with face cards. We would play Uno, and Rook, and other similar games, but never anything with face cards. I never understood why it was such a big deal, but it definitely was.

It's interesting that Brenden's family gave yall shit for following the rules but then treated you like shit when you left fully.

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they’re… interesting people. Lol

@laurawonka-hardisty83

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry they are treating you that way😭 Just know it's the pressure from the church and not b you even though I'm sure it doesn't feel that way. 😞

@stephenbethell7548

Жыл бұрын

Does anyone remember the “ Backtracking “ tapes made by the church ? The claim was if you played rock records backwards ( it was never explained how you do that ) they contained messages from Satan .

@unicorntamer2207

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenbethell7548 wild

I’m a former member and I’m 50 years old. I joined later in life and left a few years after but my argument with tattoos was it’s my body which means my temple and the tattoos I have have very special meaning so if it kept me from going to the temple then the church wasn’t a place for me

Enjoyed this talk. It's indeed fascinating to see the inconsistencies. ❤

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I always wondered why folks busied themselves going to church on Sunday,when that day is a day of rest. Napping would be more rest than worship.

@flutenanyidk1806

4 ай бұрын

The theory behind it is “spiritual rest” but being surrounded by a bunch of hyper-polite people that probably don’t care about me for 2 hours of a week and knowing that Tere will be social concequences if I say something stupid always rubbed me the wrong way.

God kept me in the Mormon church because it is easier to navigate than the World. He took me out when I was 50 and has Taught me to Live HIS Commandments. I live in Safety..Freedom..Love and Peace. I highly recommend it! 😊❤

The fact that his family swears a bunch and disowned you boggles my mind!

It was so nice to see both of you together today! I was going to say y'all have great chemistry, but of course you do since you're married! Y'all are just such a cute couple. Anyway: it's great that teenagers aren't being told it's selfish to not get married and begin having children immediately out of high school as much as they used to be. In curious if the recent news attention on how rich the church is has influenced members' answers on how important tithing is. I don't know if you or your followers would go for it, but an anonymous Google poll where you could break down the answers by age or by those who have and haven't yet gone through the temple would be very interesting.

For coffee, my older relatives all drank coffee but still went to the Temple. I had a great aunt tell me that her bishop said, its fine and "if I was following the Word of Wisdom, I wouldn't be fat". My parents were super strict about the Sabath. No TV during the day, no stores, no loud playing etc.

My parents joined the LDS church in 1970-I was 6 (59 now.) We lived in Ventura County California. I was a 8-10 on all the questions and most of my mates would be there too.

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

Very interesting! Especially since you were in California. Lots of people claim the church is only strict in Utah.

@amberinthemist7912

Жыл бұрын

I'm from Northern California, born in 77. We were 8/10 on all of these as well. As were most of the other families I knew. There was always a lot of talk about being strict in order to "set us apart" from all the non mormons around us.

your quote about cards by Joseph F Smith? oh my... all i could hear was: "You got trouble, right here in river city! with a capital T and that rhymes with P and that stands for Pool!"

"eat meat sparingly" McDonald's is the place where every Mormon parent takes their kid after school, I think it's hilarious.

Very insightful and informative. I am not Mormon (nor was I ever), but I love your channel. I am obsessed w/ researching cults and I thoroughly enjoyed seeing how many people responded so low on your scale.

@tonygil4372

Жыл бұрын

I'm right there with you. I also find cults fascinating... I'm not a mormon but the topic is very interesting.

@lisal5718

Жыл бұрын

Maybe being Mormon is becoming more a cultural thing especially for people who are growing up in Utah (were they are the majority). I mean it isn’t that different from what happened in mainstream Christianity in Europe over the last 50 years. People stick with the traditions and holidays, but ignore stuff that’s outdated.

4:56 tattoos were definitely a huge deal growing up. Do you know how many times we were given the “would you spray paint the temple” lesson?

@markkrispin6944

Жыл бұрын

I would have said "YES"! LOL

@floorfloorfloor722

Жыл бұрын

Spray painted temple sounds awesome

This was 110% fascinating to watch and see the opinions of the voters change depending on the topic. What a great idea!

So ironic how I get the notification for this video literally the second after a couple of missionaries just ran into me in the elevator of my building lol… (btw considering these are a couple of new missionary guys, they don’t know me & tried to get me to let them plan a visit with me. I just nicely told them No thank you…. But i feel the Mormons all see how naturally too nice I am, and that I don’t speak up or get firm lol. But at least they did not get off on my floor lol. 🙏🏽💜They are visiting a new recently baptized lady on the 8th floor. But it’s funny how I saw the notification for your video on my phone while in the elevator with these 2 missionary guys lol.😆

@JennyLopez2024

Жыл бұрын

Me & one of my friends were jokingly saying it almost seems as though I’m being stalked by people from the Mormon church lol..🧐🤔😳 whether it’s seeing missionaries everywhere I go or seeing some creepy middle-aged man from the church somehow showing up everywhere I am or driving by me all slowly when I’m out walking… 🤔🧐😳🙉

@DragonDrummer2

Жыл бұрын

I need to get them to stop coming to my house, the last two who came were very aggressive and rude. Not a typical experience, but I’m over it now.

@mylesmarkson1686

Жыл бұрын

@@JennyLopez2024 You might have to ugly yourself down some just to get some peace!

@JennyLopez2024

Жыл бұрын

@@DragonDrummer2 omg.. my best friend Karleen experienced a couple of very rude & aggressive missionaries. Would not respect that she is not interested and had the nerve to tell her “You will NOT EVER find the Truth anywhere.” And “the Bible Needs the Book of Mormon.” They even had the audacity to tell her the Bible is “not complete without it..” But we’re both just too nice & sweet to speak up to them. We just say we’re not interested… but these guys keep on finding us…🤔😳🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

@mylesmarkson1686

Жыл бұрын

@@JennyLopez2024 Missionary: Can I interest you in the Book of Mormon? Jennifer: No thanks. Missionary: May I ask for your hand in marriage? Jennifer: Oh goodness, no! Missionary: How about a quick roll in the... Companion: Elder, where are your manners????

I remember being somewhat hardcore about the rules. I even called out my own parents and siblings for shortcomings sometimes lol. Now I'm a rules lawyer for ttrps lol

I work for the church and when it come to the sabbath day. The church requires its employees to work on Sunday. The church makes its employees break the sabbath day so I go shopping and out to eat on sundays now

The word of wisdom one surprised me. I knew many people who said herbal/medicinal teas were against the word of wisdom, were careful what brand of root beer they got because "some contain caffeine" and even said sports drinks were against the word of wisdom b/c they advertised energy boosting properties.

Great video! Thank you for all you do!

I grew up in a Lutheran church, that held regular card parties where the people drank coffee and smoked cigarettes... it was the 70's!

7:57 the initiatory ceremony literally says “never remove them” when teaching about garments

Thank you. I really enjoyed this segment. I didn’t grow up Mormon but went to a church where such nonsense was preached as gospel.

The temple says to wear your garments "throughout your life" (which doesn't mean constantly), but then the temple recommend interview asks you if you wear them "both night and day as instructed in the temple." It's like, Dude! The temple didn't say that! 😂

What fun to hear more pronouncements by Cree-L Kofford. He was our regional rep when we lived in Riverside, CA-- a VERY colorful guy. I loved him because he was so entertaining. He proclaimed that mothers should not work outside the home. Even if the couple had to live in a tent, and even if their parents had to support them, the wives should NOT be leaving their homes to get jobs. Incidentally, my in-laws apparently bought this doctrine and subsidized our marriage until we were 40.

The same yesterday, today, and forever* *-Some exceptions apply

I think this was a really good example of how commandments/rules are based on whether people follow or like them and if they don't, they just go away and it has nothing to do with revelation or prophetic counsel.

Great video! Good discussion. Observing as an Exmo at my most recent family reunion, I feel my orthodox parents inadvertently created more nuanced families than orthodox ones. 🤘Hail Sagan!

man, I was so orthodox and took it serious for almost 30 years, glad I'm done with it and thank you for your videos. And Craig Call is a great guy.

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

He is great 🥰 Thank you for watching!

The reminder that Oaks is next in line to be President of the Corporation was the most horrifying thing I've heard all week.

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

So sorry to bring this back to the forefront of our minds 😩

@savannahsmiles1797

Жыл бұрын

Nelson has given me the absolute creeps since he was appointed. The vibe of that one has disturbed me.

Great episode! Your husband is delightful, thank you for all your insights, super interesting to see how other TBMs rate the doctrines.

I remember getting rid of all r rated movies back in the early 2000's boy do I regret that.. it's sad that they want to control so many aspects in people's lives..

Thank You! :)

For the bad words commandment, it also varies on which words. Saying bad words that appear in the bible like hell, damn or ass was "okay," but the F word was like super bad.

Yeah my mom wouldn’t let us play cards. Now I don’t know how to play any games and it sucks! 🤣

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

Never too late to learn! Start with Mormon Bridge 😂

@loraleepooley3669

Жыл бұрын

@@ExmoLex I’ll look it up. Thanks! 😊

man it's so weird watching this stuff. for me ALL of them would be 8 to 10 on how stressed they were to me. no one in my family would EVER do any of those things. i had forgotten about it until now, but we didn't have playing cards growing up! we only got them in my early teens (only like 6 years ago!) and my dad was still hesitant about it. it's just surprising sometimes to remember that not all mormon families are as strict as mine is :( also my dad was bishop at one point. whoo. so fun.

Brandon cameo🤘! You two are awesome together. I enjoyed the longer video and the conversation

I really liked this video! It would be interesting to talk to my active husband about these questions. I feel like my family was/is muuuch more strict on all of the topics, while his family was/is more relaxed on many of them. I’m shocked every time I talk to him about the differences in how we were raised and what’s important. It’s also interesting that I’m the one who is no longer active but he is. I lost my faith a couple years into us dating, luckily I was out before we would have married in the temple. Face cards were banned from girls camp, but that was the only time I remember them being brought up, and they didn’t tell us why, we just weren’t allowed to bring them. Besides that, I don’t know anyone who didn’t play with them.

Nice to see you two! And that beard; I'm envious.

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for being here! 😊

One of the things that stood out to me from what you mentioned was the part about “No criticizing the lord’s anointed.” How do you know who are the lord’s anointed? Well, conveniently, the church leaders tell you that. That’s a lot of circular reasoning.

@amberinthemist7912

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the lord's anointed, anointed themselves and can no longer be questioned. How convenient for them.

Loving the Led Zep t-shirt! "The song remains the same"

I’m elderly and was told in seminary face cards were evil. I never believed it because my parents played Bridge with friends.

@ 19:49 "Because again, they want your money." Yeah, they want your money so they can gamble it in the stock market.

Bad ass look man !! Both of you look soo healthy and are extremely intelligent!! I appreciate your messages!!

Tattoos and Piercings are the next to go. 3 of my TBM family went and got their noses pierced and 2 also got tattoos in the last 6-9 months since they changed the Strength of Youth booklet. Coffee will be next.

My boyfriend told me to comment "ZEPPELIN RUUUUUULES!"

@mylesmarkson1686

Жыл бұрын

I was told by a seminary teacher that Stairway to Heaven played backwards contains satanic messages. He went as far to say that Robert Plant purposefully sang the words off just enough to make them convey the evil message when played backwards. He insisted "There's still time to change the road you're on" was sang as "There's still time to change the road you're awww". Yet I could never figure out how that little change would have helped. He never explained it any further. He felt evil spirits when listening to the song, and that's all he needed to know. He was 100% cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, and looking back, I wish somebody would've changed the road he was awww.

Loved the video. Most of the stuff was high priority growing up for me. The face cards, hunting, and eating meat sparingly were the first I heard in this video. My biggest question is how did Brandon get his beard so long and "beardiful" (as some of us bearded guys say)? I've been trying to get mine growing longer for years and thinking about starting over once the weather quits being so bipolar and warms up (about May/June).

I was a Jr. in high school when we were taught the evils of face cards in seminary. That was the day I decided that I was wasting my time in class and didn't come back.

I would bet money that JFS had that face card revelation after someone didn’t invite him to a card game.

In the 2010s I was taking the lessons from missionaries. For the sake of transparency I told them that I was going to an Indian casino in a nearby state. One guy said that the church may not endorse that, the other guy looked at him and asked, "Is that command of the prophet?" and laughed. We never talked about it again, and I went to the casino. And yes, I played Blackjack.

I love your videos, very similar experience. I’m not sure if you’ll see this, but I was wondering: Has anyone ever messaged you and said that your videos made them ask difficult questions? Not people who were already questioning, but directly started to ask questions because of your content. I think you do an amazing job of being very articulate and fair. I am biased of course haha. I want people to question! Haha.

I didn't grow up Mormon, but the Christian cult that I grew up in also taught the same thing about playing cards. Actually, truth be told, aside from the garments, I feel like most of our rules were very similar.

In the next 30 years the church will do an essay on how the churches actions against homosexuality was not doctrine or of god. Forgetting that Monson said policy was “revelation” and Nelson said god did a 180 and gave “revelation”.

@timnewman1172

Жыл бұрын

The LDS needs a reformation, who is the Mormon Martin Luther going to be?

@janabomersbach4466

Жыл бұрын

@@timnewman1172 We should know soon. Martin Luther didn’t like the pay to play policy of the Catholic Church. Now that some of the Saints know that they starve to tithe to be worthy while the church is full of greed (a deadly sin), it should cause a split. I know I’m only being hopeful. So many religions preach about helping those in need while hoarding at the top.

Fear the Beard!

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

🤘

I had never heard the term "Face Cards" until I was in the MTC in 2003. I didn't know what it meant. My mom played solitaire for hours with a full deck of cards, we played spoons, even some poker with the penny jar. It blew my non Utah-mormon mind that people thought these things were banned.

A note for both of you... all of your hair is so freaking fantastic 😍

I had a scout leader who really didn't like us playing with face cards and didn't allow them on campouts. I asked my dad about it, and he told me who taught it but modern prophets said it is okay now. I'm only 31, but I still heard this ridiculous stuff.

17:09 Oaks gave a CES fireside about the dangers of “hanging out” and not dating because you were “postponing adult responsibilities,” aka having children

@desiadaven

Жыл бұрын

I remember this kind of thing happenning when I was YSA. Super ew.

Brandon’s comments are hilarious 😂 “they don’t want you to gamble because they want your money!” 💀💀😂😂😂😂

When I was a BYU student in the early 1970s, S. Kimball came out in General Conference against hunting for sport. Famous Mormon (ex-Mormon?) political cartoonist, Pat Bagley, at the time was also a BYU student, and did the political cartoons in the campus newspaper, the Daily Universe. His cartoons were the rage on campus, and every day we all couldn't wait to see what he would have next. After the above-mentioned conference, Bagley did a cartoon in the Daily Universe which depicted a deer hunter (with his hunting cap, rifle, and plaid coat) standing there with a deer, and both had the "Conference Report" open and were both reading it. The deer says to the hunter, "Now let me show you my favorite part here . . . " The hunter was depicted as having a disappointed look on his face. We all gaffawed. But I still went hunting.. If you look up Kimball's anti-hunting conferecne talk, this Bagley cartoon shouldn't be too hard to find in the Daily Universe archives.

I was confused as a kid about garments. My parents wore them, but I rarely saw my mom in garments alone. But I was confused about how my dad had ripped so many of his undershirts…and grateful my mom could sew them up for him. It took me way too long to realize what they were.

I've been resigned from the church for 6 months now. I have decided to look into my own spirituality for a while. I am so happy to be free from the church and cult now.

On the face cards. I was born in 1998, I didn't hear a single word about face cards until GIRLS CAMP and everyone was confused at why face cards was on the not allowed to bring list. But it was never mentioned as a doctrinal thing

Some impetus for being less strict about caffeine seemed to come when Thomas Monson's Pepsi habit became known.

I'm a little older, so I remember in the early 80s I was playing cards in my friend’s front yard. My dad drove by and when he saw us, he stopped the car and came to tell us all how evil the cards were. We had to put them away immediately. 🃏

The only time I ever heard about the face cards rule was at girls camp when a group of girls got in trouble for playing Egyptian rat screw. After then it specifically said to not bring playing cards on our packing lists. I will say tho, Dutch blitz is one of my all time favorite face card like games lol :)

I always thought it was so weird, when I moved to Utah as tween, and cards were evil. My family always played cards, my Nana taught me math as young as 4 by playing card games. Plus my Nana still has a cup of coffee before bed.

Lex!! Great video!! I kept getting distracted by your cute lashes though, mind my asking what brand/style they are? :)

19:41 hinckley has a GC talk about the dangers of gambling. Oaks had legal treatise about the “folly” of state-run lotteries.

It would have been interesting to see a poll about food storage. I mean, preparedness is not a bad thing, but I know so many Mormons who are sooo serious about it.

I was just listening to Sam and Melissa's channel, and they mentioned in passing the rule about no shopping on Sunday. I was wondering if that is another rule that has fallen away with the upcoming generation? Or maybe it doesn't "count" if you do your shopping online and aren't going out into the world? If you are do a Part 2, there you go. lol

i wonder what your survey would get for the (repeated) commandment to store up food? its been very heavily emphasized, but i mostly hear a lot of sad comments form my LDS friends about how few people have even a 3 month supply/ "we used to be told to store 7 years of grain, then no one did so they said 3, then no one did and they said 1 year of sustanence and hardly anyone even does that..."

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

That’s an interesting one! Maybe I’ll have to do a part two 👀

Love the new hair

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

oddly with the coffee thing? i took a (non religious) class with an elder lady in Utah, whose husband is... fairly high up in the church (forgive me but i have forgotten his titles) and SHE said the tea and coffee thing was just for BYU students and faculty, and people on missions... and didnt apply to "the rest of us". not having any other resources i simply took her word that it was just a big confusion...

@ExmoLex

Жыл бұрын

Omggggg that’s too funny!

I remember meeting with the missionaries and they kept hating that I was asking about them believing in multiple gods(God head), becoming your own God, and no alcohol. I was shocked with them saying that wine in the Bible was grape juice and their book of mormon saying wine. They have also heavily been focusing on them believing the same things as Christians. They also try to say Catholics and Mormons are the same. Sorry for the rant, but I feel bad for the missionaries because they have to look happy, but knowing that they are struggling. It is hard to see them because I know they are just young adults and have not really experienced the world and are told to move far away from everything they know. Anyways I hope that all members wake up. I love your channel exmolex. I also thank you for not showing your kids. My parents have the same beliefs and I appreciated it. So I am sure your kids will appreciate you protecting them. Thank you for your channel.

These results have really surprised me

to give context to the prophets speaking out against hunting for sport: market hunting used to be a huge thing in the 1800s united states and western territories with white men going out and shooting hundreds and thousands of whatever moved, sending animals like the passenger pigeon and the great auk right into extinction and critically endangering others like bison that indigenous groups had safeguarded before their forcible expulsion, all in the name of manifest destiny and god providing a land of plenty for them to use as they saw fit. joseph f smith probably was being more descriptive than dramatic in his depiction of sport hunting of the day

I'd love to see a breakdown of ratings by age group if there was a way you could do that. Also, considering how some LDS youth seem to have become more supportive of LGBTQ+ recently, I'd love to see polls with specific questions about LDS views of queerness. (Btw I love your videos; I'm a nevermo but was fascinated by LDS throughout my teens and was always curious why some of my classmates were soooo strict about some teachings while other classmates were so lax about them.)

10:05 R rated movies were a bigger deal until they changed the For the Strength of Youth. Bednar had an entire GC talk about this

@markkrispin6944

Жыл бұрын

Bednar is a total effing idiot and racists.

I love your Led Zeppelin shirt Lex

I remember the face card ban. It is part of the reason I like Tarot cards

Yeah, I still have an unnecessary aversion to cards because I was taught they were bad when I was a kid

Img I love how McConkie says “use” regarding coffee and tea alongside liquor as if these are all hardcore drugs

I think these are all very good reasons to not take religious rules and hierarchies seriously.

It's crazy because most of them I was taught that they were really bad.. Gambling and R rated movies might have been lower on my list though.. I play gatcha games which is basically child-legal gambling and my grandparents always would say how they wished to find the lottery card on the street. R rated movies I was always taught they were horrible and bad and we would listen to John Bytheway talks on how bad R rated movies were but... When the first demon slayer movie came out as rated R my uncle convinced my dad that there was no reason for it being rated that way and we were allowed to watch it. As for TV shows me and my mom watch supernatural together. The first few seasons were rated tv-14 and when the rating switched to M we just kept watching. (I also would watch M rated anime without batting an eye... In secret but still.) Eating meat sparingly and playing cards were never talked about it's crazy.

When I was about 10 years old (year 2000) I got in trouble from some older church leaders playing go fish with face cards in a church building, I was super confused and then very slowly realized maybe the connection to gambling? When I was on my mission studying the church more deeply I found stuff about cards being evil.

@floorfloorfloor722

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Maybe they connect it to divination? Tarot cards are kind of like a playing card deck with more face cards called the “Major Arcana” and this is to predict things

I've always loved playing cards. A lot of Christian churches are scared of playing cards. Playing cards are simplified tarot cards, which is why many people are nervous of cards. Many people have been harmed by the misuse of tarot. In learning the tarot, I'm becoming able to read using playing cards. As a kid in the mormon church, I was taught about the things which would make you likely to become possessed by an evil spirit. These include, playing cards, tarot, taking drugs, mixing with sinners, you name it.

Listening to the anti-card lectures made me think of the song Trouble from The Music Man.

Brendan's beard is getting so long! I love it!!

@ExmoLex

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He looks more like a mountain man every day! 😁

@mylesmarkson1686

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@@ExmoLex Pretty soon you're gonna have to climb that mountain just to kiss him!