I think it was in Matpat's playthrough, where he just stayed still at the beginning of the obstacle course and PJ Pug-a-pillar walked through the obstacles normally meaning the player had no pressure at all afterwards.

@aidanhammans9337

2 жыл бұрын

Bit dumb of them, but ok

@rowk19

2 жыл бұрын

And PJ was going at like 4x normal speed for some reason

@CalamariZander

2 жыл бұрын

@@rowk19 because pj is designed to be certain distance behind the player… meaning it will speed up if its to far away and slow down if its to close…. without a player in front of it, im guessing it just booked it… edit: didn’t realize he said it in the video … also didn’t know it applied for all enemies

@Viocuralets

2 жыл бұрын

im pretty sure it was because of something else, my guess is that when matpat died pj was just about to reach his warp point where he teleports back to the beginning and by the time matpat respawned pj was already moving and because there wasnt a player in front of it he went mach 5 to the end to warp back

@Papierkorb2292

2 жыл бұрын

@@Viocuralets But HorrorScoped also mentions it in his new video.

The dynamic speed thing reminds me of Matpat's playthrough where he accidentally discovered a glitch that caused the game to think he was at the wnd so PJ Pugapillar just shot off like a rocket, right past him, and left Matpat to just be able to move forward with no issues or concerns outside of the music stopping

@SaturnXDDD

Жыл бұрын

ITS MYTHPAT

I would love to see some mechanics for trying to deliberately cheat the game like this. Where, for example, in the final hallway, if you hide next to the door, Mommy walks past you but then goes back and jumpscares you.

@sackboy1665

2 жыл бұрын

or maybe she slows down, slowly turns her head toward you, and then kills you

@wafiboudaya78

2 жыл бұрын

00

@samueltavares4564

2 жыл бұрын

Ffg

@trutyatces8699

2 жыл бұрын

@@BilTheAllosaurus we don’t seem to be ignoring that.

@sentientdummy

2 жыл бұрын

abd tw pfp aint no way

if I did something similar to this, I'd make the monster have lines taunting the player when they get close and slow down like "come on, it's not fun if you don't RUN!" that would at least give a sense that they are playing with their food so to speak.

@alwegiesushimi6137

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea

@chichichai_

2 жыл бұрын

yea it'd be cool if mommy said something along the lines of "you're going to cheat in this one too?" since unlike the first time it counts as deliberate since if you hadn't known abt this gimmick you'd keep running (also sorta breaks the fourth wall, making it a lot creepier)

@The_Hush_Dragon

Жыл бұрын

Considering PJ sounded like Scooby-Doo when the player pressed his button on his cardboard cutout, him taunting the player with that voice would be the dumbest thing ever.

@kyawlwinoo9904

Жыл бұрын

Mommy long lag is bad

@ovozeador

2 ай бұрын

​@@The_Hush_Dragon"Ruh-Oh, you're Scooby-Dooby-Done"

PJ would've been a really adorable character if he wasn't a 4000 legged mutation between a pug and a caterpillar, slowly inching to you in darkness whilst it being an extremely anxiety inducing situation

@user-np3gx5td8l

2 жыл бұрын

He still cute but need to remove dread and evil side

@user-np3gx5td8l

2 жыл бұрын

Pj Pug a pillar Is Good Boy

@Lesss15

Жыл бұрын

I honestly want a PJ plush, i think hes rly adorable

@JJM8043

Жыл бұрын

He only has 48 legs. (yes I counted)

I guess PJ technically doesn't chase you, he's just talking a walk around the place and kills you cause you're in his way

@dollyaigacha

Жыл бұрын

oh, I found you again lol! Hi!!

@liamsapong8078

Ай бұрын

I love this comment omg 😭😭

Rubber banding is an old trick for races in game development but if done incorrectly, which is very easy to do, your players can suffer for it. That moment in the sewer and the hallway glitch screams that the devs didn't do enough playtesting. This game is surviving off of it's atmosphere, animation, voice acting and story telling, but they really need to make sure the gameplay and level design is more polished than it has been or it's going to start losing people.

@sundalosketch4769

2 жыл бұрын

Ahhh that's how most of those race games work. That's pretty neat! I'm gonna look into rubber banding a bit more just because it's such a new concept to me

@SprinklesIsGamer

2 жыл бұрын

i mean atleast it’s better than security breach

@BaconPvP101

2 жыл бұрын

It's not that serious. It's a great game.

@susboi911

2 жыл бұрын

if the game has everything good about it except for some bugs or breaking then it isn’t surviving it’s thriving it’s not the end of the world

@ShadyDoorags

2 жыл бұрын

@@susboi911 You are correct, thriving was a more accurate term. However, if it continues to take shortcuts in places where it matters, it'll lose steam. I'm hoping in the next chapter, the gameplay and level design are more polished for a truly immersive experience so it can continue to thrive. The part with the sewer took a lot of players right out of the game.

Mommy: "I HATE cheaters!" Also Mommy:*cheats*

@wabbleshabble2363

2 жыл бұрын

She Hates Herself 😎

@ventusanimegirl3730

Жыл бұрын

Do as I say not as I do makes a class A hypocrite out of you... at least I think is how the saying goes

@jamiex2024

3 ай бұрын

That doesn't even make sense ​@@ventusanimegirl3730

@ShadyDoorags

2 ай бұрын

Well, that's actually canon. Mommy all but admits that she knew the three games were rigged against you. (Musical Memory overloads, Whack-A-Wuggy had the strings removed and Statues had its ending goal destroyed)

I can understand pj being on the match speed if you assume pj is still acting according to script playco has for testing children. Moving enough to keep the pressure but never going to a dead stop, the child fails if they stop entirely or make no progress. Which is why mommy sabotaged the end of the course as she knew how fast pj moves during the tests.

@shadowslayer205

2 жыл бұрын

Also, if you move during the 'lights on' phase, PJ instantly catches up with you. This shows that PJ is extremely fast and was only holding back as long as you played by the rules.

@sundalosketch4769

2 жыл бұрын

That makes PJ even more terrifying

Mommy long legs: cheats the entirety of the games Also mommy long legs after i leave one of them tp not die: how dare you cheat.

I thought this was going to be about how Mommy longlegs destroyed the exit so you can't possibly win the game but this was a lot more interesting.

@creativeartstudios6792

2 жыл бұрын

did she really destroy it though? I thought just like alot of the factory it fell apeart due to neglect.

@The_Unknown_Wanderer

Жыл бұрын

I feel like she already knew it was in that state and wanted to use it to her advantage because there was no true way for the player to win the game because the end was inaccessible. And she got enraged at the player escaping because without "cheating" the player's only option would be to die to PJ since there was no way to win. Though I'd argue with her that, like the other games, it's not cheating to go up there because you did reach the end of the room and just simply moved on to go back to the game station after you were done like each time before 😂

You talk about this like it's a bad thing but you want it so good and bad players have the same level of tension in a HORROR game and if you make pug-a-pillar and mommy too slow then quick players have nothing to fear and get bored and if you make them too fast then the bad players get frustrated from constantly dying. The goal is to scare you more than anything and being close to death is really scary. This is good game design.

@blightedadmiral7006

2 жыл бұрын

It is, but when they go 43 miles a decade it’s funny.

@star-rock6466

2 жыл бұрын

He never really said it it was bad

@trutyatces8699

2 жыл бұрын

But that’s the thing. If you know there is no threat, there is no tension. You can literally crawl through the segments and you’d be just fine. What bar is there? What is the consequence for slipping up? It takes the horror *out* of the horror game, making it poorly designed.

@abab13

2 ай бұрын

You're correct! A lot of people don't realize that it's actually a BAD thing to kill players in a horror game too often because it automatically makes a chase less scary.

It’s both a bit creepy and ridiculously stupid at certain parts (when you avoid her in what would otherwise be a scary chase scene) that Mommy Long Legs is coded to stare exactly at the player’s coordinates. 2:03 2:14 2:49

@bill_cipher9861

2 жыл бұрын

She's not the only one who dose that, PJ dose it as well! If you stand in the right spot (not sure if its been patched yet) at the beginning of statues, he will walk right passed you into the maze while alway having his face facing at you which is generally hilarious tbh especially when his body is going the completely opposite direction to where his head is facing 🤣

@zhackiethedog

2 жыл бұрын

@@bill_cipher9861 the same is with huggy lol

@bill_cipher9861

2 жыл бұрын

@@zhackiethedog Oh yeah! Your right! I forgot about him lol

@Your_Father1980

2 жыл бұрын

123 likes

@bluecrayfish2081

2 жыл бұрын

@@bill_cipher9861 He was like "Wait NO, I don't want to go this way!"

I was so confused on something. So basically, I had ran so fast by doing a trick with the rings on the roof and I skipped that whole bit. Then I just charged through the slide and thought he could never catch up. Next thing I knew, he was three feet away.

@summerycast7936

2 жыл бұрын

How did that feel knowing he was 3 ft away despite going as fast as you can?

@giin97

2 жыл бұрын

"heeeeeere's PJ!"

Yea, rubber-banding is quite normal in many games, mainly in race type ones, like these two, but in race, they speed up, when you are closer, and are slower, when they get further. Here it's on the other side, because they just pursue you. In Gta 5, when player and another npc go in separate cars in a mission, the npc's speed is changing on how close player is to him

I actually noticed it with PJ naturally by accident, I messed up alot during a try and decided to game over myself on purpose standing next to the "hard" tube. But since PJ's pathing is programmed to pick the same Tube the player does, it walked just past me? it didn't attack me probably because I was standing next to the tube, so I noticed that as soon as he got close to me, he slowed down to a craaawl, so eventually he reached the other side of the room, and I figured I cheated and could just calmy compelte the mini game, but when I arrived at the section where you have to jump on yellow cubes, PJ just FLEW OUT OF NO WHERE and got me, while I was allowed to move,

The official term for this is "rubber banding." Its also used in a lot of racing games as well. if the player happens to crash, or spin out or whatever and fall behind, they can almost always catch back up and win. if they are doing good, it keeps their opponents right on their tail, so the pressure is always up. It can be found in a lot of other places too!

I love this feature. Like you said the constant feeling of dread is the point. It’s suppose to be scary so knowing they can catch you no matter how fast you’re going is creepy yet awesome.

Huh, not exactly a fan of wonky, rubber-banding Ai. You can thank Mario Kart and Sonic Rivals for that. For those who don't know what rubber-banding is, basically it's like the game is attaching a metaphorical rubber-band (hence the term) to whoever or whatever you're playing as which is why some Ai will always be a few more seconds/minutes behind you even with skips and glitches or why the Ai randomly speeds up and somehow catches up to you whenever you get too far ahead of them. (Which seems to be what the devs did for PJ Pug-a-pillar if the clip SwankyBox gave us is anything to go by for the latter example.) Main reason I added Sonic Rivals (which means *both* games, not just the first one) to the examples is because those games are *notorious* for having the Ai randomly speed up whenever you get far enough from them, regardless if you're in front of them or behind them. Linger too far behind, and you can kiss victory goodbye because the items won't be enough to catch up to them unless the Ai freaks out at certain sections and allows you to get a few cheep hits in.

@lolAvalanche

Жыл бұрын

I mostly hate rubber banding for Canary Mary and Banjo Tooie, you really gotta pace yourself because if you pull ahead of her like, at all, she will immediately go zooming and you lose.

Well, same as Huggy Wuggy as well. When you were running from him through the toy ventilation and when the door was closed automatically when we were trying to escape him, he seems like walking a little slower and when the door opened he started to run in his normal speed

@Viocuralets

2 жыл бұрын

im pretty sure they just coded huggy to move slower in that part, in other parts of the chase even when huggy is right behind you he will be moving at top speed

I kind of like to think of the PJ pug a pillar part from a more lore perspective. Maybe the creators of the statues game (at playtime co.) programed whether he moves fast or slow depending on the distance he is from the test subject. He would move slower when closer so the test subject would move faster, but move faster when they were far away so the test subject wouldn't stand around when they were supposed to be moving. But from gameplay perspective, yeah it's pretty weird

Wouldn't this be defined as 'rubberband AI'? Though usually seen in racing games as a means of making the races not just a cake walk if the player is really skilled or absurdly difficult if they're new by making the AI speed up or slow down depending on where they are in relation to the player.

When pj comes through that red vent face first its terrifying

@bill_cipher9861

2 жыл бұрын

It definitely is! He's got the same coding as Mommy dose where he will always face towards the player no matter what direction his body is facing or going, it's terrifying but hilarious at the right angles 🤣 I want to see more of that in future chapters

@Glitchtraptherabbit

2 жыл бұрын

@@bill_cipher9861 Ikr!

@Viocuralets

2 жыл бұрын

@@bill_cipher9861 yeah its pretty hilarious, if you stack boxes to climb over the closed gate in chapter 1 and go up the stairs you can make huggy eat his neck

@Glitchtraptherabbit

Жыл бұрын

@@Viocuralets Thats weird

Chase scenes do have rubberbanding in some games, it creates suspense for the player. SA2 is a great example of this, the truck always being right behind you makes the scene so much more intense than it would be if you just outran it. The problem is that you can take advantage of it and make it look funny.

@sundalosketch4769

2 жыл бұрын

It made me feel uneasy. Seeing a massive truck chasing just slow to a rumbling crawl right against your back is so weird.. It's moving like it wants to go faster but it doesn't, i think it unlocked a new fear within me.

@vurvo574

2 жыл бұрын

@@sundalosketch4769 Usually it won’t slow that much during normal gameplay. Just a bit when you get hit so it doesn’t keep on hitting you in a loop.

@lolAvalanche

Жыл бұрын

Ah, I see, the spambot copied your comment.

This was a really cool analysis video, but say what you want about PJ being scary or not, thisbit at 2:13 will haunt my nightmares.

@SubroOrbus

Ай бұрын

Ya got games on ur phone ?

Pj: i am speed Children:confused screaming

0:21 box jumpscare

I love all your videos keep it up im a huge fan! Thx!

When i first saw you mentioning rigged, i thought you were going to talk about how it was rigged for the player to die no matter what because of the rubble preventing them from leaving the testing room. This was a nice surprise for an aspiring game developer.. That's so interesting!

I honestly think 1:45 would be such a cool scene in the actual game

0:16 woah, we are already at chapter 23?

@MissedLane

2 жыл бұрын

What? They said chapter 2

@vokedrious

2 жыл бұрын

@@MissedLane activate subtitles

@dark_gaming13

Жыл бұрын

whoa, time went by so fast, I had no idea 😳

"Mommy long legs and PJ Pug-a-pillar are both rigged" Development team riggers: i mean...yeah how else are the animators able to create the animations? (this is just a lil inside joke, basically a process in between making the model and animating it is called rigging. Essentially what rigging does is it adds the bone structure and movement controls to the entire body, as well as connecting the 3D model to said structure and controls so that the animators are able to keyframe the movements by adjusting the controls.)

Despite everything I really do like the player speed tying into the chase, it does give the scene (as said) a constant dread which I really do appreciate and wish more games would do (in the "correct" way as so to speak)

Which is why I try my absolute best to avoid exploits. It ruins the immersion I want to have with the game.

mommy long legs before the chase scene: i asked you to play fair and you cheated i hate cheaters also her: 1:01

Doesn't it make it scarier when you're cornered and mommy or PJ just slowly walks up to you before killing the player?

As a game developer, there is a reason for doing this especially in horror, repetitive dying breaks tension way too quick so they try to slow it down so you don’t die as often and speed it up to still give you that tension. Here it’s just not done in the best way

"Causing a constant sense of dread" That is exactly what the devs were going with

Another example of this is in GTA V, you’ll notice in some chase missions if you are too far behind then your target will slow down, but if you’re too far ahead they will speed up. They are Scripted Events. Personally I think they are a good feature to account for both experienced and new players (even though most people have played Chapter 1), but of course what ruins this and why people like me complain is because it is noticeable at certain points in games and can either be not much of an issue or extremely game breaking. I feel like in Chapter2 it’s in between depending on where you are in the chapter.

@princess_joy19

2 жыл бұрын

.

@shadowslayer205

2 жыл бұрын

GTA V also has another quirk that utilizes this: Obstacle AI [Or whatever it's called]. You see, sometimes cars have a chance to deliberately pull out in front of you in order to become an obstacle, even outside of missions. The speed in which they do this is based on how fast your moving. I've seen hilarious encounters where a speedrunner will be going ridiculously fast in their car, and the obstacle AI just warps a car into place in front of the player, because they're going faster than the script was made to account for. It looks like the car gets demonically possessed when this happens.

@seadragonyt5391

Жыл бұрын

One game where this doesn’t really happen is Need for Speed Carbon. In the canyon races the rival won’t wait for you but they do seem to get a little faster if you get ahead.

@led5640

Жыл бұрын

This actually happens when your first with franklin taking 2 cars with lamar

1:50 Mommy : I'll kill you once I get you ! Player : Hum... I'm right here ?

Chapter 23? Is it just me or did HorrorScoped misspell chapter 2 in the subtitles

@xianify3980

2 жыл бұрын

Chapter 2? Pffft man's already in chapter 23 🥵🥵🥵

@user-rm1xk3wi5w

2 жыл бұрын

@@xianify3980 he's ahead of us

Your videos are just absolutely amazing and I just love to binge watch them. They clear up so much in the game.

3:07 he is cute WDYM HE IS CUTE

@iamback6824

2 жыл бұрын

This dog looks cute ._. Me seeing the dog :0 😂

2:07 actual JUMPSCARE

even tho i played this game 20 times this part 2:09 got my whole body shake becuz she was so freakin fast

@mondayman9197

Жыл бұрын

Ikr

3:12 "this dog looks cute" Me: how the frick does he look cute?! He can literally make me have nightmares

@Viocuralets

2 жыл бұрын

idk man, but it looks cute to me, very fuzzy, looks like he wants a treat or something

@tohrutokota3005

2 жыл бұрын

@@Viocuralets X - X well everybody has different opinions

@Viocuralets

Жыл бұрын

@@tohrutokota3005 however this is the internet and on the internet opinions are objective therefore he is cute and you cannot disagree joking of course, i can see how some people find him scary, i found him scary at first but after getting a closer look at his face i began to like him

The whole game is like that. As markiplier find in his video, there are lots of places where the devs assumed everyone would take the intended path and didnt account for deviations to that path. For example, the train keeps going down forever at the end instead of reaching the playcare because the devs assumed everyone would stop the train immediately when the light comes on.

Cheating, my guy has body doubles that keep spawning until he gets you.

They're not cracks, they're not flaws, they're just making the game challenging for fast players, and easier for people who don't want that challenge or who might have a disability I don't think there is a difficulty rating in this game, so they have to do this The fact some players don't do what the devs expect and therefore "break" the game isn't a problem related to the speed management, these are just flaws/bugs

@s.a.t.a.n6216

Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure they weren’t thinking about that they were probably trying to make it so you feel the pressure because no matter how fast you run they are always faster

give this guy 2k more subs he deserves 1 million i wonder how fast mommy longlegs would go if you teleport the the end of the chase.

Tysm for this video!

“He’s an absolute cheater.” I love how he said that for some reason.

Also all of the game antagonists cheat in some way. Musical Memory: Mommy adds more buttons and uncompletable patterns Whack-a-Wuggy: Mommy removes Huggy Buddy strings so they can kill the player Statues: Exit is destroyed

@darentoh322

Жыл бұрын

Mommy actually tried to kill us by giving us some deadly games

Omg i love you're videos ❤️❤️❤️😊😊😊💖💖💖🙏🙏

fun fact: when you move at red light, and PJ is far he still gets you so theres invisible PJ Pugapillar's everywhere

I subbed :D

2:08 JESUS CHRIST THAT SCARED THE HELL OUTTA ME

I feel like Statues would be terrifying even for children when everything wasn’t eerie.

Sonic adventure 2is such a good game Loved it

2:50 I LAUGHED SO LOUD I GOT IN TROUBLE 😭

Mommy cheated Also mommy : "I HATE CHEATERS!!"

2:09 gave me a mini heart attack

Huggy did the same thing in the vent scene, though it wasn’t as noticeable. However he definitely slows down the closer he gets to the player.

Ah, the potential of comedy in horror, truly an inseparable pair! The hilarious things you do with this mechanic. Compilation worthy!

I never considered this as a design flaw I legitimately thought the creatures were just toying with you Slowing down on purpose to give you a false sense of hope but speeding up if your moving too fast for them

Is it just me or does anyone else love the music being played in the training videos and stuff?

Lov ur vids

Like what legends say "the problem of being faster than light is that you can only live in darkness"

I swear half of people i've talked to or saw the Lets Play walked straight and got stuck at the end of the room just like me xD

@terrortronhollow1757

2 жыл бұрын

It was rigged. Mommy set you up from the beginning.

@philippaction9143

2 жыл бұрын

@@terrortronhollow1757 yeah i also didnt believe her from the get go. But i was concentrated and just continuing to go straight not even looking up there to the widow xd The last cube even helps you as it kinda forces you to look at that, but i somehow missed that.

@edythebeast7087

2 жыл бұрын

Yep I did the same thing during my first play through

@terrortronhollow1757

2 жыл бұрын

@@philippaction9143 its ok lots of people missed it. They didnt even realize that they were being tricked. She didnt expect the player to go through the window somehow

I like pg in poppy playtime you are the best makeing dis videos i love dis videos

i Love your vids too

no matter how fast you run, pj walks faster

2:08 I did not expect that.

I also noticed that this was an issue in both NASCAR 08 and NASCAR 09 for the PS2. The opponents either race hard with you when you're going all out, but even when you crash, they slow down.

I wish HorrorScoped checked comments so that he knows that the audio quality in this video was amazing

HERE YA GO!! i noticed it in Astralspiff's speedruns of the game!

I don’t care that pj is a cheater, he’s still amazing

Horrorscoped: So in poppy playtime, chapter 2 specifically. Captions: so in poppy playtime, chapter 23 specifically. Me: What have I missed?

2:03 jumpscare ahead

Mommy long legs : *I ASK TO PLAY FAIR AND YOU CHEATED-* Player : No. "You" Cheated.

When I Saw This In My Recommended I Thought You Were Gonna Talk About How The Exit Is Closed Off

Btw you can glitch out pugapillar on your own to see the speed he goes at. In his room instead of swinging to get out. Climb on the debris all the way at the end of the room. Hell walk completely through the wall and respawn on the other side(where you came from) and you can see him sprint to you.

2:07 gave me a heart attack 😂

You sound really familiar?! I feel like I have heard your voice somewhere before but I can’t remember where. Still a great video anyway!

PJ’s little slide at 2:13 killed me and idk why but it was kinda cute and funny

I never noticed but thanks for telling me

The children are fast, but the pugapiller is faster

Ooh its so cool

I am a big fan

Pj Pugapillar: GOTTA GO FASTER FASTER you:YO WHAT THE HELL ARE YO DOIN

"YOU CHEATED" Also Mommy:

yeah! i noticed this too when seeing someone play the pj pugapillar. but, i didn’t know they also did it with mommy

i love pj peeking out like a sinister boi

After you jump down the hole when you beat statues, hack back up there and see if anything changes, just curious to know.

PJ is my fav character and adorable so i don't blame him

2:06 THAT SCARED ME SO BAD WHYYYYYYY

The reason the truck didn’t just “run over sonic” is because he’s running ?

Mommy Long Legs: I HATE CHEATERS! Me: My lawyer will be seeing you Mommy Hypocrite.

For PJ this makes sense, but not for an angry Mommy. PJ could have many reasons to 'play with his food'. At the point Mommy is chasing you, she shouldn't have good reasons to manipulate her speed.

2:12 That is the most terrifying thing I've seen in a long time. I don't like it. where's my flamethrower?