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Пікірлер: 610
20 characters/day is a very aggressive pace that quickly becomes unsustainable, because after a few weeks you'll start forgetting faster than you learn. 5-8 characters/day is more realistic. It also becomes more slow and difficult at around the HSK5/6 level because the new characters you learn at those levels are used much less frequently than HSK 1/2/3 characters, which means they aren't reinforced as often when you read or listen to Chinese.
@ShuoshuoChinese
3 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion from an advanced level student!
@maitlandbezzina2842
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I learn 5 new traditional characters per day by writing them down once (including pinyin and English meaning) then I make up a sentence in my head with the new word, and then re-write the previous 2 days of characters (reviewing 10). This works fantastic for me and although not all words are perfectly cemented in my memory, when I move to Taipei I’m sure the training will help greatly and the words will come back quickly.
@CelciaCe
3 жыл бұрын
@@maitlandbezzina2842 This method sounds great! I’ll try it myself. Good luck to you! :)
@AA-iq6ev
3 жыл бұрын
Yes and only learn charachter i think is usless without context and pronunch and also recognize them in speach. I reached about 300 i think its pretty correct im finnish like the HSK 2 level online. Feel its gets easier the more you learned
@lordfnord5768
3 жыл бұрын
That's stupid. ANd it's stupid so many different ways that it's not worth going into.
I started studying 中文 less than 2 months ago and I know ~250 characters. I’m quite happy with my progress 😋
@ericthered2963
3 жыл бұрын
很好! Nice! Nearly a month for me. And I'm at about 80 to 90. Seems like I need to step up my game. :D But it's kinda hard to study chinese, while the final exams for engineering are coming up in a few weeks.
@ayi3455
3 жыл бұрын
I started to learn 2017. I got Hsk-3 in October 2019. So far I'm stuck in my level. 6 months to get Hsk-6, no way... Unless you go and live in China and do nothing but studying Mandarin.. My friend went to Normal Universoty 2015, and learned intensive Mandarin for 8 months, only got Hsk-4...
@ericthered2963
3 жыл бұрын
@@ayi3455 "Only HSK-4" With Hsk-4 aren't you able to speak to natives in Chinese nearly fluently? Doing that in 8 months is remarkable.
@ayi3455
3 жыл бұрын
@@ericthered2963 My friend did. Not me. I've never been to China myself...
@ericthered2963
3 жыл бұрын
@@ayi3455 Ah, you are right. What I meant to write: Isn't one able to speak nearly fluently with hsk 4? That would be an impressive feat.
I don't know why, but "cloud handshake" cracked me up
It’s actually pretty encouraging to see that even a native might struggle, so we don’t have to give up🤣
I laughed so hard 🤣 this is motivating!!! Thanks for being so genuine, for not faking perfection 💕
Even the college entrance exam requires 3,500 commonly used characters. Many characters are only used in ancient literacy, and if you don't research ancient Chinese, in no case could you meet them.
@yi-chaingordonzhan9875
3 жыл бұрын
Or if you attend 高考
After about five months of learning through videos and worksheets, my estimated number of recognized characters is 130. I study a few hours most days, so I think this is good progress. Whiteboard and markers save a lot on paper!
8000 is way too high for an average number. My result is 7200, and I’m a native speaker who knows a lot about the history of Chinese language and I read a lot on ancient Chinese literature. I consider myself knowing the language much better than any other Chinese speakers around me.
@jimmyjosseron1945
3 жыл бұрын
劉金鑫 I don’t know why she had to make this video, a study has been made and the average is around 5000
@jinxinliu2497
3 жыл бұрын
Jim Joss I think 5000 is about right.
@jinxinliu2497
3 жыл бұрын
Clack Coaster I know Cantonese and Vietnamese as well. I’m a polyglot. :)
@user-fp7tm9lw9s
3 жыл бұрын
@@jinxinliu2497 how i want that! do you have tips for language learning?
@jinxinliu2497
3 жыл бұрын
20 - 023 Angela Rehita Noventiara One tip for learning pronunciation: learn International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA), I mean the full set, not the subset of a particular language. There are interactive IPA charts online showing how each phoneme sounds like. Use that to practice all sorts of sounds in human languages. Another tip for memorizing vocabulary: use words frequency list, and start from the most common words. The 3000 most common words of any language shall have a good coverage of potential utterances the language can generate. An additional tip is that don’t rely too much on the examples in textbooks. Those examples are tailored heavily for language learning purpose, and thus can sound unnatural to native ears. Examples in dictionaries would be better, but the best examples have to come from materials of how native speakers actually use the language. Many major languages have good corpora, which are databases of text materials collected from daily uses for linguistic research-these things are rich ores you can tap.
I learn 5 or 6 characters per day and try to use them in a sentence. I also watch a lot of chinese drama and try to recognise the characters that I have learned in the subtitle given below along with the pronounciation. In this way, I neve forget the charcters I have learned and it works for me. But I don't know about others because everyone has their own way. 😊
@Braveplantt
10 ай бұрын
imagine watching Cantonese drama. you won't be able to learn mandarin lol (I like cantonese more tho)
"Haotao daku [ 嚎啕大哭 ] ~ I'm definitely gonna haotao daku [ 嚎啕大哭 ] after this." I felt that on a *PERSONAL* level.
@alyare
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-rg3un1rf3i Thank you so much. My goal is to learn as much as I can. Though I know learning never ends.
I have been studying Chinese for a year, self study along with my school stuff. I am still at HSK 3 with 670 characters. My reading is good, I have to practice with my writing, my typing and basic format of the sentences are also good. My listening comprehension sucks though, so I have a lot to improve. My pace is quite slow, but I am happy with the things I've learned cause I never place a lot of effort in something like this..
@BrasilKid
Жыл бұрын
Hang out with native speakers that always helps
Characters are not necessarily words. For instance, 故事 (story) if turned around is 事故 (accident). Also 故 and 事 can also be used independently. Thus two characters can be 4 words. This is one reason why Chinese can be so difficult. Unfortunately, the HKS system does not consider these kinds of variables. One can know 4000 characters but not understand how to make words with them or know how to use them in sentences (ie word collocation).
Me siento tan aliviada de ver este video. I love how honest you are. ♥️👏
Respect your honesty in this video. I've only just started going deeper into Chinese for 3 months. My number is 80 and I'm pretty proud of that 😁
@alphonsoelm5652
2 жыл бұрын
Some awesome soul just liked this comment on the day I completed 100 hours of studying Mandarin and redid the test (140 now!) My focus has been mainly the sounds of the language so all my characters have really just been incidental 😄
My guess without even watched the video : more than me🥺
As a first level learner, you are so good at inspiring students to learn through the HSK6 level. THANK YOU!!
Your sincerity is most valuable. Yours truly
What a huge difference in the average number a native speaker knows when searched on the English platform vs the Chinese platform. I think I am more inclined to believe the Chinese platform. I moved to mainland China when I got married (my husband is from mainland China). I remember my husband telling me the average person knows probably between 2500 to 3500 and university students about 1500 to 2000 more than the average non-university educated. The Chinese search is right on par with what he was telling me. It may seem daunting and impossible, and people always say that there are too many characters. I would just like to point out that the English language has 171,146 words currently in use, which does not include 47,156 obsolete words (which you may still find in literature or historical TV Shows or Films). The average native English speaker knows about 20,000 words and university-educated native speakers about 40,000 words. So it may seem daunting, but I am positive with consistent studying, I can reach HSK9 and beyond as well as anyone else who wants to learn Chinese (whatever Their personal goal is). My goal is to learn as much as I can.
@soomiewleng5227
3 жыл бұрын
i believe it is 6500 words. i seen like 4 sources, all sources are so different.
@alyare
3 жыл бұрын
@@soomiewleng5227 I wouldn't be surprised with the rise of education that the number is actually higher. In fact there new HSK is 9 levels and 11,092, which is a massive leap from previous.
@soomiewleng5227
3 жыл бұрын
idk anymore everybody opinion is quite different . the test i got 8000 which is unbelievable like i dk that many.
@alyare
3 жыл бұрын
@@soomiewleng5227 the official new HSK is 9 levels with 11,092 words/characters. It's supposed to go into effect this year, but they haven't given a date on when exactly that is. It sure would help to know for those studying though to know what date it goes into effect. It seems incredibly daunting, but I'm trying to stay positive about the 11,092 characters.
@soomiewleng5227
3 жыл бұрын
i did think before that even if the benchmark is not strict as long as people are willing to learn we shouldn't discourage them. i just learned from comments that the hsk is now so tough....
Thank you for your enthusiasm, knowledge and genuity. I scored 150 after three years learning, a bit disappointed, but I carry on. 多谢 妳!
Thank you so much for this test link!!!! ❤❤❤
You are amazing! I love your videos, they are useful and entertaining at the same time. What I love the most is that there is a lot of intermediate level content on your channel and I find this level the most difficult to find appropriate materials for. Btw I got 1500 characters, even though I forgot a lot for the past year
hahaha 😂 thank you very much, you made my day. I really enjoy and learn a lot with all your videos. 谢谢老师 😊!
thank you for the funny and honest video. it makes you so authentic.
You are so inspiring. Best Chinese teacher on the web.
According to the test after taking it several times somewhere around 900, always being charitable at some instances with remembering the right tone or the exact meaning, so having some more to learn for my next goal of the HSK4-level. Thanks a lot for sharing!
That's adorable!! Xie Xie ni! I love this honest and funny video lol, the edit is like everything. The best
@panikking6012
2 ай бұрын
I really recommend using characters or at least pinyin when you write in chinese, if using phone you can add a keyboard to your phone where you type the pinyin and the characters show up, it's what I use. When you type it like that it's very unclear what it means(in your case it's possible to figure out as it's a short phrase that is taught to many beginners), even with pinyin it's still harder, as many characters share the same pinyin.
funny as ever; you are really a gifted communicator. keep in mind that there are wrong entries in all kinds of dictionaries, printed or electronic. and "ladle" is not (quite) a spoon but a large spoon used by cooks, chefs (and yes, your mom; when she ladles the soup to each of you kids).
thank you for providing more insight about the Chinese language
Thanks so much for your channel.
祝你工作顺利,万事如意,牛年大吉!
I got 300 characters and I'm pretty happy about it, since I'm now finishing my studies for HSK 2. I think this shows I have kind of a solid base to start my intermediate studies and I am confident that I'll get to HSK 4 or even HSK 5 level in the following years :)))) And, Shuo, you're a big part of that journey. Thank you for your amazing videos! They always get me interested and motivated to keep studying Mandarin
You're so pretty, smart and funny at the same time. I think it's a pretty much complete package ❤️
Oh, i can read the words (characters) of hsk 3. It isnt as hard as it seems. just repeat looking at them every day and soon you get it. No memory tricks or else were necessary
@ShuoshuoChinese
3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@user-xr5cz2mr4v
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShuoshuoChinese remember to write is so much harder
@soomiewleng5227
3 жыл бұрын
drill and pray
I am half way through an HSK 5 course. I have read a Chinese novel. And I scored . . . 260. OK, so where is that balcony? I don’t suppose it helps to say I am dyslexic in every language I know. Never mind, I’ll continue working on comprehension of spoken language before I worry too much about characters.
@victoriadecastro8334
3 жыл бұрын
I am still in the beginning of HSK 4 and I was estimated to know 400 characters. But oc we know many more than what the website said... Just in HSK vocabulary it is already more.
@transmathematica
3 жыл бұрын
@@victoriadecastro8334 Yes. Sadly, I am dyslexic. I find it very hard to read characters with no context. I am concentrating on listening and speaking. Reading and writing are skills I acquire after learning to listen and speak - as I did in my native language and every other language I know.
@chenxiongxiong6778
3 жыл бұрын
@@transmathematica I took the test and got 1100 the first time then 1000 the second time (embarrassing). And I passed hsk 4 with excellent result and scared to take hsk5.. damn.. and yeah, your dislexia might affect your test.
@kadensquires14
3 жыл бұрын
Hey it is okay! I want to learn Chinese and I barely know any characters, and the ones I do kinda know, I barely remember their symbols. If you are halfway through an HSK 5 course, that is amazing, regardless of whatever number this test thing gives you. Dyslexia is not fun, but you can push through it mate. I don't have dyslexia but I have a bit of a reading issue myself, likely from OCD, but I am pushing through it, and you can push through your dyslexia too my friend, no matter how hard, just keep going! Stay strong, positive, and just keep going, and just keep learning! You got this my friend! I am here for you if you need anything! 💪❤️
@TangiableArc
3 жыл бұрын
@@chenxiongxiong6778 does it feel good to brag?
Teacher Shuo, as humans no one's perfect, only God is! Thanks for sharing, and no I won't unsubscribe to your channel. Love all your posts / videos!
honestly this is really helpful
I took the test and apparently I can recognize 900 characters. I think that's a bit exaggerated 😂
Hey Shuo Shuo. Great video. So what happens when you come across a character you don't recognize and you want to know what it is. Could you please make a video of how to look up a character in (a) an old-fashioned dictionary from the days before smart phones and (b) how you'd do it nowadays. Thanks!
So grateful test for me thanks so much for it greeting from Venezuelan
Great video, as usual. I am ashamed that I only got a score of 200 after trying to learn since around 1 BC. (Before Corona), I guess there could be something wrong with that site, or have I been fooling myself?...you don't need to answer that. :) Now I will watch all of your videos again and see if my brains start filling up the gaps over the next 130 days. I hope the native Chinese speaker of Chinese living in Bangkok Thailand has done her math right. I will report back in 130 days. Love your videos!
Why do people complain about your intro? Almost every youtuber has something they keep saying in the beginning of their videos and I love hearing yours! ♥ I got estimate of 200 characters, ouch. I passed HSK 2 with ease in 2019, but I guess I need to study harder~
老师怎么那么好笑啊 😂😂 还是good job!我觉得你太聪明了 嘻嘻 (I just did the test before proceeding with the video and it gave me 1800 :O)
Good job Shuoshuo. I hope to just get to a communicative level in maybe half a year... Thanks for the video 🙂
@ShuoshuoChinese
3 жыл бұрын
加油!
@aloner9496
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShuoshuoChinese 谢谢哈哈
5:29 jump off the balcony haha. Just subscribed Gotta love your humor :)
loved your video. too funny. If I could remember all characters I study in a day I could take 130 days to learn Chinese. But when tomorrow comes I forget what I learned yesterday.
I love the Fact you Live In Thailand, That is so Cool and Intimate... In Your Defense, When I lived in China for 8 Months, The People I lived with admitted to not knowing a Ton of Characters!!! They also said they Did not know hardly any of the "Old" or Traditional Ones!!!
Fun video, thanks Shuo. Don't jump! Most native English speakers also recognise only a minority of words in a non-concise dictionary. You also just demonstrated that bilingual dictionaries can't always be trusted; bookish and genteel are not synonyms and a ladle is a type of large spoon used for serving food. If I may give you a tip, be careful with the word order for direct and indirect questions in English e.g. How many Chinese characters can you recognise? vs Would you like to find out how many Chinese characters you can recognise? Also you got caught out by a pesky auxiliary verb (do) e.g. Test how many Chinese characters you know vs How many Chinese characters do you know? Answer for me is apparently 500. Maybe can be 510 in a day or two!
If I follow their definition of "knowing", I get 300. If I include the characters I know at least one meaning for, but don't know how to pronounce, the number jumps up to 1000. That puts my reading ability two full HSK levels above my auditory skills, which sounds about right.
@tiramisunsun
2 жыл бұрын
same I got 600, but I know more, I just don't always know how to pronunce them bc I mainly learned characters through other languages (Japanese and Korean Hanjas)
Thanks loashi...I now know my actual level . I'm getting closer and closer to HSK6 (is what I tell myself so that I don't feel discouraged lol)
Almost 3 years and it shows 1700 although in case of a few I did not check there were some which I ceertainly have had, but forgot. I keep track of all the vocabulary I have put in my daily flashcards and it includes ~2200 characters and ~4000 words so far. But it's just that they are in my Anki base to be repeated from time to time.
wow thank you! my curiosity about how many characters in Chinese had been solved. so that's really it you have to memorize but it's too much for my little brain I guess!! actually I tried to memorized 5 characters each single day. it's really a long way before I can reach my goal...ah ah ah mabuhay!!!
Beautiful, cherished and beloved alphabet. :)
Hi Shuo, I've taken this test and according to the characters I can recognize, the app says 400. The situation I see is that the problem is not how many characters do you know, but how you use them to create meaningful sentences and how and if you are able to understand those characters in the middle of some text... It's like learning english by memorizing words but not having a clue how to conect them to create phrases... Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!
2000~3000 middle school level 6000~8000 High school level and this can be the highest level for most Chinese student, cause we won't force to learn Chinese anymore in university. and 10000+ only Chinese major students.
我是用你的频道学英文的,都是能听懂的可理解输入,相当巴适!
I got 2200 😂🤪 still low, my master's is in Chinese lingusitics :( Filipino here :D
Yayyyy i did it 2nd time and i love you and your videos
I never miss a lesson🤩! I knew a few Japanese kanji, but I had to re-learn Chinese ones. In Hong Kong, it was even more different.
@emanuelheard3236
3 жыл бұрын
I’m In the same position.
@catchthebook5862
3 жыл бұрын
How it’s?
@user-bl6ct3pl8p
3 жыл бұрын
U mean traditional Chinese characters? of course,Hongkong speak Cantonese, not Mandarin Taiwanese speak Mandarin and use traditional characters, similar to Japan Kanji if U learn Manarin in China mainland. its so different
Hey Shuo! I’ve been following for a while because (Mandarin) Chinese is fascinating and you’re interesting to watch. I just wanted to help you out - question words only invert the subject and verb if the phrase itself is a question. So, when you say “I will tell you how many characters can Chinese people read”, it should be “...how many characters Chinese people can read”. 我不太会中文。多的年前我学习一点的中文和今天我仍然会读一点的汉字。来自英国的问候。
@ShuoshuoChinese
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
'Cha-rac-ter 3 syllables ...You are excellent.
Full attention - do not disturb by most possible Concentration - attending n listening to a talks/ shows Purpose - complete our daily jobs day by day Confident - giving presentation / speech Friendship - meeting Clients Inclusion - be part of the big company family members Diversity - free style Respect - interview / promotion / meet big boss Insight - working on a projects hope to get more ideas ... Etc
I've been learning Chinese on and off for about 3 years now. (Mostly off though) and I only know maybe 200 characters. I feel better seeing you, a native Chinese speaker struggling.
说老师好! can i ask what dictionary do you use? because i use pleco on my phone but it's not available for desktop so:(
You should to the traditional characters next time! That would be fun to watch! I originally started studying traditional for about two years and when I started simplified I was like you in this video 🤣😂
@justaotter2085
3 жыл бұрын
traditional characters look so cool dude
Thanks for suggesting that page! Always wanted to know my progress learning characters ... I got 2300 ... still quite a long way to go :-(
合【collaboration】作 集【concentration】中 点【insight】子 礼【respect】貌 包【inclusion】容 专【absorption】心 自【confident】信 友【friendship】谊 伙【teamwork】伴 自【diversity】由 那个字体选择很重要 要给人喜欢外国又爱国的高级感觉
please could you tell me what's that dictionary app in computer that u used?
感谢老师💕
I took my HSK5, currently working on my HSk6.. the problem is not learning the characters, the problem is confusing the characters.. when you have 10 Jing which look similar only different because of some radical on the top left... I find it much easier to recognize characters in a sentence than by themselves... So learning 2600 characters is easy, telling them apart by meaning and tone is the hard part.
Good luck to everyone learning Chinese!! It's a very difficult language so don't be too hard on yourself.
像我英语一样。我大概认识3000-4000左右的英语字儿。根据在我的调查上,一般母语英语使用者认识20000英语字儿。作为我自己,我应该也认识1500-1700左右。在我们的母语,我们也可以慢慢学新的字儿。你认识的汉子优秀,我相信你。
My result is 1300 characters. I took the traditional characters test, because I mostly study them (I had Taiwanese teachers and textbooks). I'm quite satisfied, thought it would be worse :P
Very funny indeed. Please, do not jump out of the window! I am waiting for your next programm :)
Watched it & laughed how funny she was when she thought she knew some vocab words but those words turned out to have different meaning compared to what's written in the dict 😂 I remember my native Chinese teacher made a mistake of mispronouncing a word with a different tone that it should have been, then I realised how human that was and somehow it told me that it's okay not to be okay (hehe 😂) in the middle of my struggle of learning Mandarin..
很好玩! 真实世界太极难的语文,并或许在太阳系! 学习它感觉如从来完成的奇怪拼图! 谢谢说说老师!
中古汉语中 皱属于去声字,文绉绉念平声是口语化得结果。方言中文绉绉一短语的皱还是保留去声读法。
Hey... can you please guid me to how can i easil make sentences and also some tips to learn Chinese right now i am doing level 2
It would be interesting to know how many you can write... from my own experience its a great difference. Btw love your videos so much!!
@silentwilly2983
3 жыл бұрын
For me that's very close to zero, I can type them though.....
@benthelearner6104
3 жыл бұрын
I is like me in french, there are a lot of word I mispell. So I guess it is normal to forget.
@heyhey3684
3 жыл бұрын
@@silentwilly2983 yeah it's the same with me i can write only the very basic ones but i can read so many😂 I guess it is because i didn't practice enough and just memorized them from seeing them often...
Below the video, you have schedule for days and times of group classes, but there is no link to click, nor is there any information about start date...as I am upper beginner (I think), I would only be able to take a class on a Saturday, since I am on USA time zone and I work :) But for others, maybe add a link so you get more business? (I did give thumbs up for this video, although I'm very far away from ready for a hanzi test!)
Took the test 3 times - 700 each time. So it's more or less consistent.
@kathakailin
3 жыл бұрын
I took it like 4 times, cause my internet is shit and wasn't sure I got all there is. Is it really only two steps and then the result? I got 1800, which makes me kind of sad I should go back to study!
@Mintshake_bunny
3 жыл бұрын
I did it twice, got 200 first time and 400 second time. I think it isn't that big of a difference considering my level is somewhere between HSK2 and HSK3 anyway.
I took the test 3 times, I got 1300, 1400 and 1700 each trial respectively.
There was a magnificent confirmation bias in this video😁 Still a nice video 👍
@ShuoshuoChinese
3 жыл бұрын
What is that?🧐
@suras8849
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShuoshuoChinese people like to see their own believes confirmed and as a result overlook information that indicates they are wrong. This phenomenon is called "confirmation bias". I don't understand why he is talking about it though
Learning individual characters is only one part of the challenge, being able read it in combination with other characters is another factor. There are times when I can read every character in a sentence, but can’t completely understand all of it. As an example, let’s say I know 學校 and 生活, but if I’ve never seen 學生 I wouldn’t know the meaning even though I know those individual characters from the previous to words. So just measuring the number of words isn’t enough to assess how much one can actually understand.
No wonder you left China. But seriously we still love you and you are one of our favorite Chinese teachers
I was wondering what is the number of character a literature teacher or a scholar can master in china...
我也爱泰国。我泰文说的很好。我在泰国住了十年。我是英文的老师。谢谢你。
So many that are " I know this ; oh no I don't ; it's a different radical". So 400 in total. I think reading text (I hope) I would do better.
According to the resuts of the Hanzi test, I got to be able to read about 1400 traditional characters but 800 simplified ones.
I think display In this structure is better... classy
I somehow became at peace with my level in HSK an i don't know what else i can say. currently focused on getting to c1 Russian. Was at least B2 when I started Chinese but fml going from b2/c1 Russian to C2 is easier than going from hsk4 to hsk6+ I Love Chinese. Russian... oh Russia, you tragic, beautiful, savage, crazy place. . . i love you to. but not too much!
3 1/2. Zhong, guo, le and sometimes fu.
i think you should try chinese hsk level 6 test
I'm a mainland migrant to a foreign English speaking Asian country of Northern Wu Dialect when very young. This standard Chinese is more or less pronounced with Beijing Chinese,my native language still followed my parents teaching. Which is still Chinese, but also when young the first thing I learned was my Shanghai dialect, while I'm of non native Shanghai descent, I guess in the end when it's standardized I still hold some dialect influenced pronunciation. I.e. if going by pronunciation it's quite biased towards northern parts of China even though I'm told after spending 25 years overseas I still sound like a Taiwan or Hong Kong person, even when my spoken English is entirely learned overseas. Weird how native accents doesn't go away. Also it's .... How do I put it English as a Indo European and Chinese as a Sino Tibetan language is probably the hardest pair to master. I still have to translate some English vocabulary to this day, due to how words are structured. But I guess in the end standard Mandarin is still mutually intelligible. PS. I self studied traditional/simplified Chinese, classical Chinese, read and write classical Chinese philosophy overseas, still gets embarrassed (freelance Chinese writer)😳 I guess I got curious , dropped out of university since my English wasn't good enough, and recently started self studying hundred schools of thought and relearning my Chinese all over again. Edit I took the test a few times both simplified and traditional is hovering around 4000. In singapore, English education system. Chinese I only have a gce o level A in Chinese. I remembered what I learned I tested according to o level chinese and I got 1700. Way lower than hsk 6 In the end this Chinese migrant here spent 0 years in the Chinese education system and managed to hit native Chinese speaking range anyway. It's.. possible.
Fiona Tian remarked as host of chinese pod, that she noticed a decline in her character "fluency" when she used more and more regularly phone- and pc keyboards which require, of cause input in pinyin. Indeed in that video she mentioned that she had started to write with pen to get back to her level at university! I notice a related effect in my writing in German and English. I rely heavily and, embarrassingly on spellcheck functions, wherever I write! Mind you I have to deal with just 24 letters!🙄
王八:Cuckold - A man who's wife sleeps around behind his back. Your search (in Chinese) for # of 汉子 average Chinese know is the same as what I've read. So knowing 6,000 is a lot!
I took the test twice, 800 the first time, 1000 the second time.
Which dictionary are you using? I’m learning Chinese and i couldn’t find a good dictionary jet.
I'm between 700-800 according to taking 3 tests, which is about what I was expecting. The only way is up!
I would like to know 2 thinks: 1 - How do you know the correct way to pronounce a new Chinese character when you see it? (Pretend that there is no tool like Google translator to pronounce it to you). 2 - How are Chinese dictionaries organized so one could search for words definition. I believe that now a days it is possible to search words meaning using pinyin but how was it made in the past? I mean, prior the pinyin was invented. Thanks.
@soomiewleng5227
3 жыл бұрын
native here wdym in the past
@marcioandreyoliveira
3 жыл бұрын
Western dictionaries all follow the alphabetical order of ordering and the way to pronounce words is given directly by the way they are written. I would like to understand how the Chinese managed to consult the dictionary and how they discovered the pronunciation of words in the past (for example, in the 18th century), when there was no pinyin (as far as I know) or computers. I hope I managed to explain myself (English is not my native language) Thank you.
It's a matter of area of vocabulary. I memorized a couple thousand characters, mainly dealing with Classical Chinese; so I can read large parts of the Four Books, but still have serious trouble with a newspaper--and I haven't even gotten into the problem of simplified characters...I see many of those characters on the test are simplified. I'm in trouble already.
@leowiswall9232
3 жыл бұрын
You can also take the test w/ traditional characgers