For the win percentage, it needs to be above 50% in order to rank up. People actively grinding the game would most likely have a win percentage larger than 50% since they are improving consistently. It's most likely these same people that take an interest in RL content and replied on your survey. The people who don't take the game too seriously or have dropped it, probably won't bother replying on your survey. It's interesting though, but this is my best guess

@ArtificialArchitectMC

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my thought

@johnmiller2905

Жыл бұрын

Nope, it's just because if you leave early, it doesn't count as a loss.

@inferno23_

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmiller2905 that's literally not true. it just doesn't count until after the next game lmfao

@johnmiller2905

Жыл бұрын

@@inferno23_ You're wrong. You're thinking of bakkesmod MMR. I'm talking about win percent stats. I literally used to farm it and watch my stats rise. To this day I have around 68 percent win rate for exactly this reason.

@BasikLee

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmiller2905 That could be a factor, but I think that would only be a tiny percentage of the players that abuse this.

Salutations Wayton. On behalf of the Plat Union we are sorry for our misleading and false responses. We promise to continue blaming our teammates for our lack of success and we will continue flip resetting. Thank you and again we are truly sorry. -The Platinum Union

@s1lv3rfir3

Жыл бұрын

Platinum 3, 30-40% of time in training, as many hours apparently as a champ 3. I can indeed flip reset, occasionally

@NobbleMan

Жыл бұрын

IM PLAT AND I CAN AIR DRIBLLE AND FLIP RESET MUSTY U ALL SUCK- nah im jk and im not that type of guy im d3 and cant flip reset musty..

@stevexie5721

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, but you forgot the part where we hit no bounce psychos and still fail to not double commit.

@heheboiii6924

Жыл бұрын

@@NobbleMan Can u do it consistently tho? nvm im dumb

@heatwarden1313

Жыл бұрын

that is the best apology ever 🤣

started RL a couple months ago. Mainly played training packs for fun. Finally played comp today and placed Plat 1. Love this game so far, and I have been enjoying your vids!

@sanikku5

2 ай бұрын

Nicee, starting out at plat 1 is not shabby at all! Have fun and see you in diamond for sure

@brycebarber4571

2 ай бұрын

this game is so addicting. Occasionally there's toxicity but thats every game. Climbing has been an absolute blast. I hope to get there soon!! Plat 3, Div 2 atm. Hopefully Soon :D @@sanikku5

@myth2571

Ай бұрын

Good stuff, I'm glad you have joined the RL community! Welcome and I hope you enjoy your stay :D

Very nice content wayton

That decrease in team play seems like it happens when players start to feel confident with some of their mechanics and gameplay, thus feeling like they are better than their team or not trusting their team

I liked how you showed all of the different metrics like demoes and goals per game but i personally wouldve been interested in seeing how many players are playing 2v2 / 3v3 as a premade and whether or not it makes a difference in hours / matches played compared to rank.

@felix-b4940

Жыл бұрын

It surely does not change shitt

@ImMimicute

Жыл бұрын

@@felix-b4940 I'd disagree, the fewer people in a game the more valid the feedback on if you did or did not personally fuck up, as such I'd imagine people playing ones or twos would learn from their mistakes faster than those in threes

@animorte9790

Жыл бұрын

Actually my mood is exponentially better when I'm playing with friends, whether that be 2v2s or 3v3s. Because of that better mood, I tend to have a much better time and just play better in general.

@ImMimicute

Жыл бұрын

@@animorte9790 honestly I'd love to relate but my friends don't have the same drive as me, don't get me wrong, I do play better when I'm playing with them and I have way more fun etc, but the I'd be lying if I didn't say the W/L doesn't fall Not saying I'm some god or anything, I'm a dirty lil plat, but they've never used freeplay for anything past warming up Can't blame them though, It'd be unfair for me to push my wants onto them

@animorte9790

Жыл бұрын

@@ImMimicute I have a couple friends that never touch training or free-play so I know what you mean. Fortunately, most of them are still better than me at this point (because I still have under 100 hours), so I don't really feel the drawback yet. I'm getting better though!

The Plats results are totally accurate ..... It's difficult to rank past it for the reason being that Plats are so full of themselves discouraging and ripping on other Plats mishaps and mistakes. I have found that ripping on your teammate for whatever reason is a terrible way to have your teammate(s)play better. It only causes a ridiculously unnecessary amount of pressure applied by your own teammate(s) rather than the opponents.

@sohtnax7809

3 ай бұрын

What rank r u ?

@myth2571

Ай бұрын

I agree with that entirely, even though I am not plat myself. I try not to ever be toxic to my teamates for that very reason. I don't know why people think being an absolute fucking asshole to their teamate will make things better. If anything instead of playing worse, they might just go afk and shit talk the entire game or throw. It's such a bad mindset to have if you want to get better, and win games in a game with teamates.

I think your 55% win percentage would be due to the self selection of the data points. If you could somehow query the "master database" for 100 (or 10000) from each rank/division, you would most likely get a better data sample. Thank you for your great videos.

@villain6634

6 ай бұрын

A bit late but it's actually people when you start rl your generally like silver 1-3 and if you are plat rn you have an above 50 win %

Never before have I felt better about spending 10 years in champ 3

@patient1322

Жыл бұрын

bro i was in gold for years and now i am only plat 3 when i’ve been playing since 2015-2016 😭

@patient1322

Жыл бұрын

@Colinope not luck you’re either talented or you worked hard

@kylo.3079

Жыл бұрын

I am champ 1 2021-2023

@hedworm

Жыл бұрын

@@colinm7118 i also started in 2020 right after the lockdown. have since sunk in 1.2k hours. Champ 2.

@xyarl

Жыл бұрын

I’m gc1 playing since 2020 but I stopped in s4-7

I love how Wayton always finds a way to roast plats in his videos 😂

@bagingaming2769

Жыл бұрын

Ik and I'm plat 3 and I'm almost diamond but still get roasted

@oso_kn

Жыл бұрын

@@bagingaming2769 this reply is a prime example

@AvaWillows

Жыл бұрын

@@bagingaming2769 I got out of plat like two weeks ago after being hardstuck in plat for 2 years, no lie - I know exactly why it's Wayton's favourite rank

@yessirrrrr_daddy

Жыл бұрын

Rightly so

@yessirrrrr_daddy

Жыл бұрын

@@AvaWillowsbro whatttt

Hi wayton! Big fan, I’m bottom plat 3 so like div 1 or 2 and have 404 hours so I do think that the graph you made was quite accurately made. Good job

@SwuaveWEB

Жыл бұрын

You're talking about your in game hours right? Not the time played in the profile of Rocket League? If so, are you on Epic? and where did you get that information?

What are the confidence intervals on these various figures? I'd love to see some error bars! There certainly weren't an even number of respondents from every category/rank, so you'll have much higher confidence in the averages for some ranks than others. I'm also curious about the variance within each rank. Would be great to see some robust statistical analysis of an even larger player set! Also, I have a feeling that the reason Psyonix doesn't release their official data is so that new players don't realize they'll need to put in >300 hours to get out of the trash tiers. And those of us in Plat 2 with 1300+ hours don't completely lose hope.

@fearafk8542

11 ай бұрын

I get a lot of d3s in d1 in 1s

@parknich081

8 ай бұрын

thats not what they meant by variance @@fearafk8542

@kvazau8444

6 ай бұрын

based statschad

Would be interesting to see how the stats differ by region. I imagine in smaller regions especially that ranking up takes way more hours

@sennesarens2033

Жыл бұрын

I think it would take the same hours or less because, people have habits so they play around the same time every day so evenualy you will know the playstyle of those players and if you keep beating the same players over and over again you rank up

@epicfilms4life507

Жыл бұрын

im from oceania and ive reached c1 in 3.3 k hours, so yep but then again 1.7 k hours were on a crappy surface pro 6 at 60 fps and terrible lag, so that's my only excuse other than just being really fucking shit at the game oh and i also play a shit ton in free play, like probably 70% in free play so that's also a factor in it i guess oh yeah and i have 4k matches played so that should give a rough idea of how much fucking free play i do (mostly because im watching a video and mindlessly playing tho )

@Genavlsll

Жыл бұрын

South east asia diamond 200h where only 100 put in ranked with half games above 230 ping

@legionaryss8542

Жыл бұрын

I'm c2 in oce and I've played 3181 matches or a little over 10 days worth

@aykovic.6732

Жыл бұрын

fr true af aisan servers are way more hardcore than EU i cant say about US but indian servers ASM they are pretty hard

Hey Wayton, I think that those win% are measured from gameplay hour 0 onwards. Everyone who made it out of bronze will not fall back to bronze 1, hence they have a positive winrate, which is more than 50%.

As a newer player on the verge of diamond in 2s, Plat is the rank I started being able to control the ball a lot. I think the lower assists but higher goals and other inconsistencies is that everyone is fighting eachother to make solo plays because either we are doing it to try and improve, we think we are the best, or our teammates seem to be letting us down so we feel like we have to do it all ourselves. As someone who is genuinely trying to improve, Plat has been a very frustrating rank but as long as you keep a more calm and mature mental, you can litterly watch the game unfold and start reading plays. I've found in upper Plat I can 'train' about half of my teamates in the first couple minutes by making a good center and then immediately beeliningback for rotation until they get the idea.

@deralex81

5 ай бұрын

The graph showed really my own time vs. progress until 2 seasons ago, but is a bit outdated now. There were some rank resets during the last seasons, you can say go down 2 ranks for a certain amount of hours spent.

@towl8716

5 ай бұрын

I'm really new to rocket league and somehow I have 45 hours and I am Plat 1 in 3v3

@phroge9045

5 ай бұрын

Nice bro, all I did was start believing in my teammates and I started to rank up. I just hit diamond today 🥹

I think the avg win % in your survey is above 50% because respondents to a rocket league survey will be inherently keen on the game and actively learning things, so as a group, they are climbing.

Bro I love watching Wayton apply real world stuff in his graphs. The whole last bar graph reminded me of my dad’s work he showed me once. Where he took a graph of oil production in one well over time, and found the average amount you should find in similar wells.

2 Notes from me: 1) I didn't participate in the survey but I am curious if players may have entered their extra modes rank as their highest rank and skewed the data. For example I have 2400 hours and am GC1 in 2s and 3s but I was GC1 in rumble back at 1500 hours and am now GC3 in it so possible data skews there. 2) The win percentage could be 1 of 2 things. The first is just how RL calculates stats and I don't know how it counts stats when people abandon or forfeit and leave before the scoreboard, very possible Psyonix just didn't do this correctly. The other thing is your survey is skewed towards people who are active enough in the community and care enough to take a survey about Rocket League and players like that tend to put more time and effort into the game and thus have higher win percentages than the players who don't watch youtube and just sometimes play cuz they're bored. I would wager that has at least a 2% swing in your data.

Great video!:)

I should also point out I've watched a lot of videos of yours and others who've helped me get better quicker

Thanks man ! Today I was actually thinking about that after watching some off your videos, like what is the average learning curve in Rocket League Ranks, super interesting, I've got the game since 2015 but never played seriously, this year because im getting older (29 this year) video games bore me a bit, but my friends play rocket league often, so I gave myself the challenge to at least have a basic control of each game mechanics and achieve Champion. I've got 250 hours on RL since 2015, 1500 matches, 54% win and Im currently Diamond 1. Today i just learned to dribble thanks to your video about it and became confortable doing so after an hour. I guess im part of the ones who get the game quite quickly according to your average rank curve, Im doing lots of drifts and air combat in simulation games (Assetto Corsa, DCS World) so serious mechanics learning is something I like doing. And actually after watching your videos and playing more seriously, It made me realise how complex of a game RL is and I start to enjoy it in a whole new way, I didnt felt that passion for a game since Skyrim, so thank you ! 😉

@FirepowerIGuess

10 ай бұрын

Nice to hear that! Did you manage to get what you wished for?

@lomuc

4 ай бұрын

2500 hours or 250? Just wanted to clear things up bc that's crazy

Thanks for letting us be apart of your video Wayton! Glad I could help as a champ 3 (virge of gc1)! I like to compare my current stats to my later stats!

@sohtnax7809

3 ай бұрын

How many hours for you to get to champ1 ? Me 275hours

I’ve spent about 560 hours based on the game time in my PS5 and currently on champ in 3s and 2s. Absolutely unable to do flip resets and struggling with wall dash things, however understanding of positioning, good defensive and pressing skills is the key for this level as I think.

@kyoto592

5 ай бұрын

Oh, and actually watching games of pro players like Zen and RW9 has improved my understanding of the game a lot. It really helps.

@dinoworldyt8355

4 ай бұрын

Im d2 with 200 hrs

@kyoto592

4 ай бұрын

@@dinoworldyt8355 yeah, that’s great, but there is huge difference between diamond and champion

@dinoworldyt8355

3 ай бұрын

@@kyoto592 yh I was playing comp with my champ friend and there so much faster

@sohtnax7809

3 ай бұрын

​@@dinoworldyt8355reached c1 in 275 hours

These kinds of patterns on gaming data are so fascinating to explore.

Really nicely illustrated! Love the graphs ❤

Hey Wayton! Just wanted to let you know that you are my favorite content creator. You beat everybody out there in my opinion. Your style of editing, the clear time put into videos, and the quality of content is outstanding. I love watching every single one of your videos. The content is so much better then other rocket league KZreadrs. You are seriously underrated. So, keep up the great work man. Looking forward to future uploads!

I've always been a 3s main, simply because I like the teamplays and I like having someone behind me to support me. I have reached above 10k matches though and I'm C2, so the 2s vs 3s argument sounds accurate. I've decided though that I'm gonna focus a lot on 1s now. It makes me play more confident and I just need to improve my consistency, so 1s will be great for that.

I got to GC ~June 2021 after having started in Sep 2018. Think I had about 1300 hours or so. However I’ve been stuck in GC1 since June 2021 lol probs about 1600-1800 hours in. I’ve peaked at GC2 a couple of times in both 3s and 2s, including GC2 Div2, but the push from GC1 to GC2 is really an absolute grind to do. Not sure I’ll ever consistently remain in GC2, so recently started to try and power through the torture of 1v1. I’m Champ 1 Div 2 in 1s atm, hopefully if I can get high champ I’ll see some results in 2s/3s for that push to GC2

Thanks for making this video Wayton! It’s good to see what the average stats would be and I’m happy to say I’m ahead of the normal hours for C1! Keep it up!

@idkwhattoputhere5503

Жыл бұрын

same, i only have 630 hours and im c2

@apparentlyawesome598

Жыл бұрын

@@idkwhattoputhere5503 Nice! It's hard to believe and I would show you a ss of it but I legit have 220 hours in the game.

About the win percentage => Afaik the game only adds up stats if you completely finish the game and stay until the end (Which is basically once the Winner message shows up, same goes for earining experience btw.) So if you leave early, stats won't add up. This includes leaves in Ranked 1s or casual => Players that are about to lose are far more likely to leave early (Especially for example before the casual leaver punishment was added) => Due to all that missing loss stats, pretty much all players have a Winrate higher than 50%

@banded30099

Жыл бұрын

You pretty much have to have a win % higher than 50% to even rank up so besides bronze players it seems like everyone would have to be above that 50% threshold correct?

@YukizzGG

Жыл бұрын

​@@banded30099 The baseline in Rocket League is somewhat gold'ish (You also start with 600 MMR on new accounts, which is basically gold => so if you win 50% of your placement matches you are already about low gold rank) Same goes for the soft reset every season => Everyone's MMR gets pulled closer to Gold again => So simplified, everyone above gold should have 50% winrate and everyone bellow should have below 50% actual winrate of their games. But even with that increased winrate players have to have to rank up, a GC with 10000 games only has to overcome 1500 MMR from Bronze to GC which is like ~167 more than losses in total, which would only be a winrate of 50.8% => so that's not the full explanation for all those 56% winrates.

@banded30099

Жыл бұрын

@@YukizzGG Gotcha. Thanks for the info man

@HoraryHellfire

Жыл бұрын

@@YukizzGG There's several factors which contribute: 1. Leaving doesn't update Career Stats (players are more likely to leave losing games). 2. Resets pull everyone towards Gold 3. Anyone above Gold 3, especially Champ+ needs to climb 50+ rating each season to get back to where they were the previous season. 3. Prior to Free to play, resets were capped to 1380 rating (vs the now 1540 for 2v2 and 1660 with 1v1 and 3v3). Meaning even someone in 2000 rating would have to climb to 2000 rating from 1380. 4. Prior to Legacy Season 8, resets capped people to 1180 rating (Champion 1). 5. Season 3 had a hard reset, making veteran players (like myself) have to climb from the beginning again, except much slower with more wins due to the lack of MMR inflation. 6. Career Stats considers _every_ game mode. Casual, Competitive, Extra Modes, Exhibition, Private Matches. It's all added up together. I think if you combine _all_ of these reasons, plus that in order to rank up you need a higher than 50% winrate, then it easily explains why most people are in 55% to 60%, even those below Gold. Especially if they have like 500 hours and are still Gold.

I'm technically new to the game as i started last December 2022. with a total of 280 Hours played im happy that i am already a Diamond rank in 2v2s while having still Plat in 1s and 3s. im very thankful to the amount of videos and trainings online it sure did help me A LOT! my next challenge would be to reach Champ before 400 hours :) Thanks for the video!

@joshuabelle09

10 ай бұрын

Same here

@parknich081

8 ай бұрын

what the fuck bro i have 300 hours and im gold 2 on average

@BaselNajdawi

8 ай бұрын

@@parknich081 spend more time in training, im close to reaching Diamond in 3s too now

@toenado2794

6 ай бұрын

i got to gold in 10 hours@@parknich081

@sohtnax7809

3 ай бұрын

​@@parknich081 I reached c1 in 275 hours bro and I was chilling in casual most of the timr

I actually think the 2v2 and 3v3 mains point is a mix of both. 2v2 makes your mechanics increase way way faster while 3v3 forces you to increase your game sense more since there is more going on i also think basics are much more needed in 3v3 than 2v2 sice fance stuff is less limely to work out there

@mertcetinkaya1396

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. I'm gonna say 1v1 forces you to learn MUCH more game sense than both 2v2's AND 3v3's while also improving your mechanics

@blackpulser

11 ай бұрын

@@mertcetinkaya1396 nah 1v1 gives you mechanics and speed but watching 1 opponent is way different then watching 3 opponents and 2 teammates. As rotation, passing, positioning and all the gamesense needed for 3s and 2s need to ve trained while having a situation where they apply. How will u practice setting up passes, rotating, reading multi player plays etc. Without having m8 or multible players? Not to say 1v1 is useless but it will only train you in 1v1 situations and those should not happen in most cases of 3s.

@ethanwakelin8518

9 ай бұрын

@@blackpulserif ur ssl already ur right about 3v3 giving more game sense but if ur not 1v1 will improve both game sense and mechanics more then other things

@blackpulser

9 ай бұрын

@@ethanwakelin8518 1v1 teaches u to stay on the ball and recover in an actual game. The moves u use when ballchasing in freeplas can be applied there so u learn to keep control. And in teaches you things like risk management and 1v1 dribbling. It doesnt teach u how to position for a pass, or set up a pass, how to position in defense behind a teammate, or proper distancing while doing off ball movement when your team is in possession, u dont learn how to deal with team plays from opponents, how to rotate, how to get creative to make it past more than 1 opponent. In 1v1 if you have boost ball and control it can be a goal with a bumping play or well placed flick. But in 2v2 u need to outpaly one opponent and regain control before the second one challenges the ball

@ethanwakelin8518

9 ай бұрын

@@blackpulser 2v2 is irrelevant because 3v3 requires more game sense then 2v2 when it comes to tm8s and stuff but it comes down to what game sense is and if we’re talking defensive rotations then there all equal cause each has defensive rotations unique to there game mode but if we’re talking quick decisions where to put the ball in the net when to grab boost how to hit the ball when to hit the ball and so on 1v1 is the best but if ur ssl already 3v3 is the best because if u want to get further in the game to minor or major tourneys u need to learn 3v3 defensive rotations as well as the high level passing techniques used but if ur below ssl a pass is basically hitting it in a way that the opponents can’t reach it and ur tm8 can hit it into the goal which is really easy for someone that has the mechanical skill of a 1s player as well as quick game sense of a 1s player

I think the reason that the win% is more than 50 on the survey,because Wayton puts out tutorials helpful learning and good content,so the people who did the survey had a better win rate than people who don’t.Keep up the good work Wayton🙂

Hey Wayton! Just putting this out there. At 6:00 you mention the win rate percentage and how it has a similar rate across the board. When you think about it, you see a fairly consistent line going up in most of your stats in terms of goals per game, assists, etc. So is it possible that the average rate that people rank up is roughly 5 or 6%? Just a thought

@user-xq2dz4rp9k

Жыл бұрын

Your opponents are getting better too.

@pebbles0700

11 ай бұрын

🤓👆

@redzaneich9302

11 ай бұрын

@@pebbles0700🤡🤡

I cant thank you enough for this video, i felt super insecure about my progress because im diamond 1 with a thousand hours, but my in game hours is only 132, less thana quarter of average. Thank you so much

@SwuaveWEB

Жыл бұрын

Diamond 1 with 1,000 hours isn't bad. I was watching this other video about the similar topic. It's just chock full of comments like, "I have 150 hours and I am champ". These people are flat out lying. They would be so far outside the norm, that there would need to be BILLIONS of Rocket League players for this person to exist, and even then, they would exist off unranked fluke games. Was he referring to the "Played Time" hours from the profile in Rocket League, in the video?

@kadenrichards1196

Жыл бұрын

@@SwuaveWEB that’s the impression that i got, yes

@JoyBoy_Elite

10 ай бұрын

@@SwuaveWEB there not lying, getting diamond or champ within those hours is possible. maybe your just bad at the game

I have about 5500 games now at C3D4 but i dont have much in the mechanical aspect, i think since i didnt focus on mechanics and played to help the team to win i ranked up faster than average

I think it's interesting that pc players only rank up 6 percent faster, I thought it would be a larger difference

@gabedrinkswater

Жыл бұрын

I switched from ps to pc and went up 3 ranks in 3 weeks

@NotSoJuicyMac

Жыл бұрын

It’s probably cuz the extra ways to rank up on pc are massively boring. And starting on pc is sort of the same as starting on console since you learn to play with the input delay and low frames.

@FuriousSkating

Жыл бұрын

The advantage us very very low

@YaBoiJeffe

Жыл бұрын

6% is small if the hours needed is small. If it takes 100 hours to get to plat 1, 6% isnt a lot If it takes 1500 hours to get GC, 6% is a lot more significant by comparison. It's definitely interesting though

@xdnotmed4310

Жыл бұрын

Oh really? I mean I don’t really practice and I’m still shit

I'm a Plat IX and I find that your assessment of plat play is correct. It is extremely difficult to break out of platinum without a team or without being good enough to carry two others. I've been diamond before and I will be again, but in the mean time my teammates amount to more RNG than rumble. Also, my rank-up to Diamond game is ALWAYS against a team with coms while my team hits multiple own goals. I've only been able to break through twice in 3s.

@noahkelly950

Жыл бұрын

TL:DR - Make a party and play more I can’t tell if you’re joking because you said “Play XI” which doesn’t exist, however if you’re struggle is definitively you’re teammates then you have multiple options: you can put together a team with people you play well with whilst solo queuing, you can play with you’re friends if possible and you can also go onto discord servers with lfg’s and find teammates that way. Even if after this you still blame you’re teammates then this tells you it is your fault you are losing, therefore you should practice all aspects of the game until you see improvement.

@alexislevesque1510

Жыл бұрын

Honestly just hit the ball hard and dont rush nothing u will be champ in no time oh and learn to rotate

@Wxczut

Жыл бұрын

you’re plat 9?

@SALEENS7GTR5

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the most prestigious RL rank: plat 9

@princessrainbow3756

Жыл бұрын

@@Wxczut It means I've been in it for a long time, and out of it, and have 4 seasons worth of champ rewards and I'm still plat in 3s lol. And tbh it's where I belong.

I used to be so worried about ranking up as fast as possible. But that's just not me. I like to take my time in each rank so that I get comfortable with taking a leading role in each rank instead of relying on others to carry me. I also hate pushing and trying to win so bad. My win rate is 51.8%. It feels so good to just let wins happen, instead of forcing them. I have around 1,200 hours and I am diamond I. But I focus on getting better each game. I used to train quite a bit more than other people according to this video, but lately I've been in a mode where I am playing almost only matches.

@redbull456ful

Жыл бұрын

Trash, Im champ 1 with 288 hours

@dalewallace4802

Жыл бұрын

@@redbull456ful Trash, I'm GC1 with 69 hours

@TylerWilson-gd3gw

11 ай бұрын

@@redbull456fulbro I’m c1 with 185hrs shut your mouth and stop bragging

@JoyBoy_Elite

10 ай бұрын

diamond with 1200 hours is fucking hilarious. you should be atleast GC2 with that much

@kiiturii

10 ай бұрын

@@JoyBoy_Elite tell that to the gold3 with 10k+ hours. Yes he exists. People just have different priorities.

Wayton, then there’s the few like me, when I started playing Rocket all my friends were diamond and above, so for 2020-22 I was somehow initially ranked as plat even though I had absolutely no business being up that high, and eventually it showed, I made my way from plat all the way back down to bronze (way way way too many smurfs in bronze) silver was pretty easy to breeze through now in 2024 in steady at gold. Granted I was only ranked upwards of plat in (drop shot/rumble/2’s and 3’s) and as soon as I stopped only playing with my friends and started playing by my self I dropped like someone had dropped an anvil in the ocean, dropping me to a more correct rank rather than the “carried” rank, I personally feel grateful I was able to learn from better players rather than trouble shoot against people that are as bad or worse than me. But overall I guess I’m saying the time needed to hit each rank all depends on 2 main things 1) how much time and effort the player puts into rocket 2) how many smurfs are at each rank. If Psyonics could develop a means of weeding out the smurfs or have the Smurfs of each rank only play other Smurfs it would drastically change the learning/growth curve.

Personally I think 2v2 is easier to rank up in. I main 3v3 only occasionally playing 2v2, yet 2v2 a lot of the times is my highest ranked queue.

@jonas9184

Жыл бұрын

In 2v2 I easily hit Champ, but in 3v3 I always get into a position where I'm not really affecting the game and it feels like I'm just rotating. So thats why i'm stuck in low diamond

The only problem I have with the hours spent is that it counts the hours idle. I've personally gained most of my hours on the game just bc I was afk. Other than that great video

@rlplayer5872

Жыл бұрын

then look at the matches it take to get where you want 0:22

@LiamD613

Жыл бұрын

@@rlplayer5872 I’ve got the same issue with the hours spent metric because of the number of hours I’ve racked up whilst idle. Matches played is arguably just a less accurate measurement of the in-game time played tracker in your stats.

@Vyuel

Жыл бұрын

Yea it's quite dumb, because before f2p I was a trader, so I have probably 4000 ish hours on the game but was only at 380 hours in match when I hit GC, which is definitely above average

@rook37

Жыл бұрын

@@rlplayer5872 I wish it had the avgmatches played for ranks past champ :/

@itskairos1684

Жыл бұрын

No I’m game time played stat doesn’t count idle time. Console play time (so checking on your Xbox account not checking in game) does count idle hours

Assists per match dipping at platinum is poetic honesty

Hey payton! I love you brother and I just wanna do the normal thing you guys get. I'm diamond 1 div 4 and haven't gained a rank in about a year. I have watched yt videos and everything but whenever i'm about to rank up I get crazy teammates and I think that's the problem. Any tips on how to overcome throwers?

@lemonadegamesss

10 ай бұрын

BTW I HAVE 955 GAMES PLAYED

Since us console players can’t see hours played, can you post the average matches for every rank for us to compare? There were only a few ranks mentioned in the video as far as I could see.

@symblitz699

Жыл бұрын

im assuming u play station, cause on xbox we can check our hours played, if xbox reply and i’ll let yk how to do it

@WalkingW

Жыл бұрын

if u have a friend with a ps5 he could tell you your hours

@eeveetsu

Жыл бұрын

gold - 1052 matches plat - 2648 matches champ - 6684 matches gc (ps4) - 10229 matches ssl - 17586 matches He showed this... Should be enough. keep in mind some players spend more time in freeplay than others

@beanstatic

Жыл бұрын

@@symblitz699 How can you do this? Thanks

@oso_kn

Жыл бұрын

@@beanstatic click on see full profile in the Xbox home menu. And go over to gaming and select a game and go to stats

It would be interesting to see what ranks people have in different gamemodes. For example plat 2 1v1 has a lot of c1-2 2s players (at least in my experience).

@jaycraw6500

10 ай бұрын

This is facts. Plat 3 1v1 and diamond 1 1v1 has a lot of champ 1 2v2 players

@kiiturii

10 ай бұрын

yeah, the amount of people I play against in plat 2 that have champ tournament winner title or champ season items is crazy

@luukherfst1209

Ай бұрын

​@@jaycraw6500Facts. I personally am Champ 3 2vs2 and Diamond 3 1vs1

With win percentage, some people leave the game before it starts bc they have a bot for a tm8 instead of a person

The Graph at 7:22 feels quiet accurate. I just hit 1000 hours today and i hit Diamond 3 at about 960 hours. Also the other ranks below align with what I expirienced over the past 7 Years of playing

@yeaggermiester

Ай бұрын

Bruh I've got well well over 20,000 games and I've been hardstuck in c1-c2 for like 3 years.

6:05 My best guess would be the effect of soft resets in new seasons. The first quarter of every season, players are winning matches in ranks they're usually higher than. By the time they get back to their normal rank, their win percentage is padded.

@poonkjuice4980

Жыл бұрын

but the other players youd be playing vs at the lower ranks would be the same as you because of the reset... if anything it would be the people who wait to the end of the season to play and all of the higher rating players wouldve naturally assumed their ranks. ANOTHER POINT, rocket league is ftp now and everybody who wants to pad will just hard smurf

Im peak d3 with 420h and i always thought I was way behind the others, thanks for the motivation

@firewarriorpl6596

Жыл бұрын

me c1 with 78 hours :skull:

@abrokenlink_

Жыл бұрын

I’ve got about that many hours and am Silver 3-Gold 1, you’re doing great

@abrokenlink_

Жыл бұрын

@@firewarriorpl6596 attention deprived?

@GrafTepid

Жыл бұрын

@@abrokenlink_ Could for sure show you some things to get like plat 1-2 if you want me to :)

@GrafTepid

Жыл бұрын

@@abrokenlink_ pahahaha thats what i thought

Would there be a rough way to calculate your "most likely amount of hours played" using both your "matches played hours" with your total "in game hours"?

@kvazau8444

6 ай бұрын

yes, any regression would do this

im 30 hours gold 1 which fine bully me but i only got into rocket league really like 2 weeks ago because before that i was playing casual with my friends when i was like 10 and didnt understand the game but now that ive spent like 5 or so hours in game dedicated to being better ive seen major improvemnt

1:56 Dear wayton, Considering our behaviour during the survey, we would like to apologise for the insincerity of our actions. We have continuously Lied to you and made life harder for your KZread videos. We promise to never lie to you again. Yours truly, youraudience.

It's interesting how I reached GC1 in 1200 hours by myself while being strictly a 3s main. Which means I'm progressing incredibly fast, I suppose. I've just started maining 2s, which is also interesting considering people start playing more 3s around where I currently sit, and I feel the need to play 2s to get that car control I've been missing due to playing nothing but 3s. Hearing that most SSLs have at least 4k+ is scary cause that means I have 2600 more hours to clock in, even though I've always been the one to reach a rank with fewer hours than average. But SSL is so joke, so I'm ready for the journey.

@bagingaming2769

Жыл бұрын

You will get there I believe I you

@bigmanoooo356

Жыл бұрын

ayy Gc1 with 1200 is very good

@bigmanoooo356

Жыл бұрын

I got like 433 hours being Gc1 and it's due to KZread and its content. Ur mindset and how U play the game. But how fast U get is dependant on urself Ur drive and how U train

@winz319

Жыл бұрын

d2 with 580 hours. 3000 + to go but i believe i will reach ssl at one point in my life

@gwilkes5325

Жыл бұрын

@@bigmanoooo356 fr, reached diamond 1 at 80 hours because i was doing training more than actually playing the game

I got plat 2 straight out of placement matches for 2v2s. I got it in just under 300 matches total, mostly ofc being casual as I only did placement

I peaked at Champ 1 when I had just a tad less than 1400 hours. I stopped playing and now I am back again and I am D2 once again. Hate that I stopped and let my rank fall. I see people mention that last season's rank reset pushed many GCs down to high diamond/low champ. Not sure how true that is tbh.

I have 168 hours and I’m diamond 1

@FuZzY000

Жыл бұрын

Same but I’m champ

@theonewhoasked5352

Жыл бұрын

Nice

@FuZzY000

Жыл бұрын

@@theonewhoasked5352 good luck on your journey

@theonewhoasked5352

Жыл бұрын

@FuZzy thanks

@theonewhoasked5352

Жыл бұрын

@@FuZzY000 u to

It’s also hard without the metric of how constant people play. I played consistently like and hour a day-w hours a day until I hit c3, then kinda quit and would do anything from 1 hour a day to 5 month breaks into other games. Stopped progressing as fast and capped out around gc1, but still have a good amount of games being played, just no longer interested in grinding new skills. Rotations and situational awareness improves but I’m not trying double resets or anything.

My acceptance into a new rank doesn’t come till i’ve done it in both 3’s & 2’s. 2’s always becoming first lol

The across the board positive win% on this is pretty self explanatory. Wayton viewers don’t lose

Its so funny how much harder ranking up gets. I got to c1 in under 200 hours. And now im over 1k hours at c3.

By the way what I do is when I get on rocket league I do some free play then I find a match whilst searching for a game I go in free play and when I have done like 5 games I do some custom training

you should do a statistic on kbm mains and controller mains and check that

Im diamond 1 in 2v2s with about 80 hours... I do feel ive kinda hit a wall tho. Ive been.bouncing between plat and diamond 2 but seeming to stay at diamond1. I really need to practice longer aerials and dribbling. So far i feel ive just benefitted off taking rotations/backpost defense seriously and hitting the ball hard.

When you hit d1 in 1v1s that’s when I think most people stop to play because you go up against people who are gc in 2s or 3s which makes 1s really hard to rank up so that’s why no one plays it that much.

@sohtnax7809

3 ай бұрын

D1 in 1v1 are c1 in 2s and 3s. Gc1 2s and 3s are c1 in 1s.

@sohtnax7809

3 ай бұрын

D1 in 1v1 are c1 in 2s and 3s. Gc1 2s and 3s are c1 in 1s.

This makes me pretty happy. I peaked at 1054 MMR with 524 hours played. With that being said, it’s all rotation and game sense. I have zero mechs.

@sohtnax7809

3 ай бұрын

Reached c1 for the first time in 275 hours 1134 mmr

started to play bout 2-3 weeks and i have 60 hours. Today I got platinum on 2s with my friend so its kinda reliefing to be actually improving kinda faster cause i was really upset to be stuck on gold forever (although even being plat im still really bad at the game anyways)

kinda surprised that i just now entered champ 1 and i only have 180 hours in playtime. im really proud of that bc it shows i learned and got better quick

@sohtnax7809

3 ай бұрын

Same got c1 in 175 hours it's pretty easy and unfortunately it's still low rank and players are really bad

6:08 that s because the game queque you to have about 55% of win rate, infact you will have almost a positive expirience and same for every player. generally you won t be able to get a consistent 5+ streak win cause the game will make a vs with way higher rank and mate will be lower rank, so you will lose 100% and so it will adjust your win/lose to 55%, then of course we will have some with 30-40% and some with 60% but usually will be 50%

I got my placement asap getting to level 20. I got gold mostly by myself as my games ended up being myself v2 cause my mates ragequit after one goal gets scored on us or they miss a very easy shot. I have less then 130 matches. My positioning needs work. My air shots are getting more consistent and my communication is on point. Without a stack to rely on I have to play defensive constantly because that concept is unheard of by my teammates. My matches consist of wondering why my mates are chasing so hard with no real goal while not communicating any information. My favourite complaint is kickoffs when I spawn clearly in the back and state I’m going to defend as my m8 is closer to the ball. while the opponent has both charging blindly at the ball leaving a wide open net. My random will flame me that I didn’t charge into an unpredictable outcome and leave our net wide open to the possibility of a kick off goal. I’m confused by this one as it usually ends with them failing the kick off and the ball goes smoothly to me and I just easily bonk it into their net. Other favourite is when I have to go for the kick off and at this rank it seems like a fake is unheard of so I just stop before the ball and watch where they will make contact then make a small adjustment to bonk it where I want it to go. Apparently no going full force with unpredictable results is frowned upon. Over using the opponents unga bunga lack of strategy to my/our advantage.

6:20 maybe all Wayton Pilkin viewers are pros

Plat 2 with 1844 games played I've also been stuck in Plat for a like a month or so, so I couldn't say exactly how many matches it took but it was definitely less than that, wow

i like how teamwork goes down in platinum

6:00 I wanna use my public health degree for a second to help answer this question, “why did most of the respondents have above 50% win rate?” I would say the most likely explanation is people with lower win % are less likely to respond to the poll (and thusly be interested in rocket league, watching RL content, or watching your channel) than those then those with higher win % Another way to word this, is the people in your community are better on average (bc they watch ur videos to get better) I hope this helps you answer your question!

This makes me feel a lot better about being in Plat III with like 40 hours and 450 matches.

@user88988k

10 ай бұрын

yeah I'm plat 2 with 18 hours so tbh idk if this is accurate

I have 500 hours and I'm close to champ 1. I've been playing RL since the end of August 2022, but I don't play very competitively, I'm more in freeplay.

I was about to say that I am d3 and only have 300 hours, but then I got roasted at 7:44 😂😂

Done a little over 10k games hit Champo for the first time few months ago end of season 9

I guess I was lucky or got on a great start. My first ever ranking after playing for maybe 3 days was plat 1 in 3's and all my placement matches were solo queue

Woah! i am diamond 3 with 100Hours,Thank you man,i us thinking if im getting worse,now you saved my life

I know it’s an old vid but I just got diamond 1 in 2s an 3s under 100 hrs just started playin the game was a wz player till I got burned out on it but RL just felt good so I stuck with it.

my training tools: play with my brother in higher ranks than i actually am.

I started like a week or 2 ago (i play on keyboard on mouse i dont have a controller) and Im only silver, can you give me some tips to rank up to gold or even plat or diamond?

The end man

man, i’ve played since the start of rocket league lost accounts due to being hacked and my pc being bricked and shit so i don’t know the exact amount of hours i’ve played but last season i got d2 now i’m back to being hardstuck plat

If anything, this just proves that plat is the real elo hell lol Jokes aside, love this video and thanks to you and your friend who helped make the data more reliable!

How do you convert the in-game stat to the hours you showed in your graph? (Obviously converting units but he said its different than steam hours so which did he use?

Would have liked to see per region as well but I assume most responses are from NA and less from EU and even less from OCE, I'm curious because I watch a fair amount of content on youtube and the players look far worse then players I match with at the same ranks.

i do rotate especially back post

I have about 2000 hours and I'm gc2. Kinda nice to see that I am improving faster then most people

I just started the game about a month ago. I have around 42 hours in the game. Im gold 3 div 3 in standard, d1 div 4 in duos, and plat1 div2 in ones.

Wayton im a d2 and all the ppl in my lobby are low champs since season 13 and the ddosrs are a lot i hope you do a remake to see that

I'm actually surprised to see that the average champ 2 should have 1590 hours, i just hit champ 2 and I've played about 900 hours. I did know that i progressed pretty fast, but not by THAT much.

That chart is really accurate, I have about 1000 hours and am Diamond 3

My controller is broken so i cant aerial in my first 120 hours but its nice to know im way ahead of the curve. I only play for fun but still have been diamond 2 at peak to plat every season barr one at gold. Not claiming im good by any means. Just nice to see where i measure up

crazy i got almost as much as champ but i’m like d2 at the moment

Played with a Grand Champion in a bronze tournament, hard to think there are better players than he was.😊

I only have 1800 games at c3 but makes sense as Instead of spending 40 percent of my time in free play I spend closer to 80 percent

thats nice i guess, i hit champ a few weeks ago and i only have about 340 hours in the game, i played a bit on console in legacy season 14 i think but i came back to the game at the start of the year

I played RL for the first time 5 months ago, and have roughly around 6 days played ingame (idk where to look up the total hours in epic) I am 2 matches away from champ