How long Does Each Belt Take in BJJ?

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Which belt are you on? How long did it take for you to get it? For everybody doing BJJ depending on your Gym and your Coach the time it takes to grade to each Belt level will vary wildly. There are many factors that affect how quickly you progress through the Belt ranks but these are not always made clear to you by your coach. Some Academies grade on attendance, some on competition wins others on personal development- it can get confusing. Also the act of asking how people are graded when you join a Jiu-Jitsu gym may seem taboo and awkward. On top of that if you have recently changed gyms they will probably keep you at your current rank till you have spent some time being part of their team. All of this can be frustrating but once you know how it works at your gym then you can set your own expectations and work at it!
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  • @Highcaloriegrappling
    @Highcaloriegrappling2 ай бұрын

    4 years from White to Blue and 5 years Blue to Purple. I didn't have any injuries and train a minimum of 4 classes a week. Some gyms are just different.

  • @BrMg01

    @BrMg01

    2 ай бұрын

    wtf man sandbag for sure

  • @russjan2678

    @russjan2678

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BrMg01😂😂

  • @brewhaha515

    @brewhaha515

    2 ай бұрын

    Wow

  • @googone1902

    @googone1902

    2 ай бұрын

    Sandbagging or ur literally trash

  • @701garage

    @701garage

    2 ай бұрын

    White to blue for me was just at 7 months. I've been blue now for 2 months and just got a stripe. This not not normal for anyone esle at the gym I go to.

  • @louishaon1012
    @louishaon1012Ай бұрын

    I loved everything in this video but mostly the end part when you talk about what you sacrificed for jiu-jitsu. Thank you guys !

  • @josephr2766
    @josephr27662 ай бұрын

    Got my blue belt after 2 years and 2 months. 45 years old with a bad bad back from an industrial accident about 15 years ago. Wish I could be a no stripe white belt forever. When the hips and back are aching and stiff all the young guys are instantly faster and stronger. Being the oldest in the class even older than my coaches I’ve embraced my gym name “old man”.

  • @1stmardivgrunt314

    @1stmardivgrunt314

    2 ай бұрын

    Same here bro. 67 year old purple belt

  • @evperry

    @evperry

    Ай бұрын

    49 soon to be 50.....man I understand. White belt.

  • @JoelGandara

    @JoelGandara

    Ай бұрын

    Man, I'm 100% with you on all those points exactly.

  • @AJonVolk

    @AJonVolk

    10 күн бұрын

    Have you guys got on supplements like fish oil, tongkat ali or magnesium? they have helped me so much with recovery, I'm just wondering if they help at more advanced ages.

  • @OneNvrKnoz
    @OneNvrKnoz2 ай бұрын

    One saying that really stuck with me from my coach is “you show up and you get better”. That’s not to say you can show up and slack off, but focusing on getting yourself to class on a regular basis will advance you more than worrying about getting to black belt fast

  • @manwithnoplan5496

    @manwithnoplan5496

    Ай бұрын

    100%. It’s all about consistency

  • @alexmac2010

    @alexmac2010

    Ай бұрын

    Did you ever feel like a imposter going through the belts so quick? I ask because I’m due to move up but not 100% sure I’m ready for next belt … is this natural? Thanks

  • @shoxggz645
    @shoxggz6452 ай бұрын

    Really enjoyed this cheers lads 👊

  • @OneNvrKnoz
    @OneNvrKnoz2 ай бұрын

    BJJ has grown so much as a sport in terms of techniques and positions that there’s just more to learn than 10 years ago and that takes time

  • @TheGreature

    @TheGreature

    Ай бұрын

    And still black belts don’t know everything

  • @louishaon1012
    @louishaon1012Ай бұрын

    Also, i am a two stripes whilte belt. Started 7 months ago and loving the journey so far. I have listened to my body and my injuries and went from training two days a week to four now. Listening to your body and your needs and accepting failure are the most important things in jiu-jitsu

  • @Fullmetal_christo
    @Fullmetal_christo2 ай бұрын

    I dig this podcast. Thank you from San Diego. It took me 12 years to get my Black Belt. Strictly linear consistency , that’s how long it took me.

  • @bulletproofforbjj

    @bulletproofforbjj

    Ай бұрын

    Much love we appreciate you supporting the show!

  • @ScottBuckland
    @ScottBucklandАй бұрын

    Boys your videos/podcast is absolutely top notch 👌 so much information and often I’m in stitches whilst listening to your stories! I’ve just turned 35 years old and I’ve just started Judo and soon to start BJJ, so your episodes are golden. Appreciated from the UK 🇬🇧

  • @bulletproofforbjj

    @bulletproofforbjj

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the love brother! We appreciate you.

  • @nintendad2099
    @nintendad2099Ай бұрын

    I really needed to hear the last words on this video. Had a rough day today at the gym. Rolling a bit too hard and not breathing right. Got gassed out. 😂 Not in a hurry to rank up but trying to move too fast in my techniques and not breathing right. Great video, new sub!

  • @maximillianshaughnessy2321
    @maximillianshaughnessy23212 ай бұрын

    Love this podcast guys 👍 pretty sure im getting my blue belt this month. Been a rollercoaster of emotions through white belt from really wanting the blue belt to hoping I never get it. Feel i'm at a point now where it doesn't really matter to me anymore other than a nice token to the work i've put in. What age did you guys start bjj at btw?

  • @BabaNovac792
    @BabaNovac792Ай бұрын

    Belt this ...belt that...belt belt...people should only concern themselves about the things they need to learn and master...the belt will come when it will come.....the moment you are consistently submitting the belt above you - in your head it's already a recognition of your advancement in your training - the color means something,yeh, but not all the time....get your game in check ,don't chase the color

  • @chadcampbell8322
    @chadcampbell832212 күн бұрын

    I just started 2 weeks ago and I am a husband and father working full time and I'm pretty much training saturdays. Blows my mind hearing people say, "Oh you need to be training at least 2 - 3 times a week." It's almost discouraging because if feels like a lot now just trying to commit one day a week to it.

  • @bulletproofforbjj

    @bulletproofforbjj

    12 күн бұрын

    Do the best you can. As long as you are enjoying it thats the main thing.

  • @travisrudd
    @travisrudd2 ай бұрын

    The 15 year thing is definitely ringing true. White belt 1 year, blue belt 2 years, been purple for 7 haha At white and blue iw as going 5-6 times a week, got my purple and had to move, which reset the clock, then tore meniscus, broken rib, and bad lower back disk injury caused over 2 years total off, then took one year off when covid hit because we had a newborn at home. Now i'm lucky to go 3-4 times a week and am so thankful juust to be be back training. At this point, getting the next belt isn't even a thought.

  • @jamesbyrd5175
    @jamesbyrd5175Ай бұрын

    Trying to follow cap guy's train of thought is a trip.

  • @bulletproofforbjj

    @bulletproofforbjj

    Ай бұрын

    Tr keep up with his coffee intake, then it might make more sense... 😅

  • @kylesande5986
    @kylesande59862 ай бұрын

    I'm a member of a small club that only holds two classes a week and a third is open mat. They only test once every six months so unless you kill it at comps we can expect each belt to take 2.5 years.

  • @jairbear2000
    @jairbear2000Ай бұрын

    Currently holding a brown belt. 2 year at white, 3 years at blue, and 2 1/2 at purple. Over 50 competitions throughout these years. Currently held up with a shoulder injury 😢

  • @Wubss
    @WubssАй бұрын

    I got my blue belt after a year almost to the day, and have been a blue for a year and a half and since i got my blue i got married and had my first kid so things have slowed down quite a bit. Although it has made me be a lot more intentional with my training and get the most out of every roll trying new things and i think that has allowed me to continue to progress almost just as fast as i was before

  • @paulkopy3766
    @paulkopy37667 күн бұрын

    Really well put, pretty sure it's the first time I've heard 15 years as an "expectation" out loud on the Interwebs by legit BJJ Black Belts, and it makes all the sense in the world... The best advice I've heard and try to live by is don't think about your next belt, just do your best to be consistent and be a little bit better each time you train.... Which of course you won't be, there will be days, and there will be days... And your dog might eat your jiu jitsu diary and set you back 6 months 🤣

  • @phobowl
    @phobowl21 күн бұрын

    In my 10th year & brown now. I’m really in no rush. Enjoying the ride. It’ll be my last belt promotion so I would rather take my time.

  • @MoshJunkie426
    @MoshJunkie4262 ай бұрын

    The last I did before grading to blue I had a few coaches complain that I was sandbagging, even though I went 5-1 and only had one other comp under my belt

  • @andrewmares4687
    @andrewmares4687Ай бұрын

    I just got my Blue Belt in 7 1/2 months. It doesn't feel real but this sport has done so much good for me and I'm completely obsessed.

  • @g4mm4io
    @g4mm4ioАй бұрын

    I have been a white belt for over two years now, and I am starting to feel like I am progressing well. I am becoming more confident with the basic escapes and getting the hang of the basic submissions. Although I am not athletic, I know that persistence and dedication to learning are the keys. I hope to earn my blue belt within 2.5-3 years, starting from zero.

  • @g4mm4io

    @g4mm4io

    Ай бұрын

    But I also think my school's blue belt standard is high. I don't have any issues with new white belts; it's fun rolling with them. I'm not trying to sandbag, lol. I am waiting for my instructors to think I deserve a blue belt and just have fun.

  • @TheFonzarelli
    @TheFonzarelli2 ай бұрын

    been blue since before covid training 5-6x/week and competing

  • @BrMg01
    @BrMg012 ай бұрын

    this week is my marathon week 11 classes total / 1-Mon - 3x tues,wed,Thurs and 1 Sat.

  • @TheGreature

    @TheGreature

    Ай бұрын

    Damn bro 😂 do you roll hard every session?

  • @BrMg01

    @BrMg01

    Ай бұрын

    @@TheGreature no way man. I ask the professor to just drill in some classes...I'm 43 cant roll hard anymore lol, OSS

  • @arturofernandez725
    @arturofernandez7252 ай бұрын

    Jujitsu is hard man

  • @infernodotdash2203
    @infernodotdash220328 күн бұрын

    will an inconsistent past stop me from getting promoted in the future? for context I've been at this gym for 2 years, going max 3 times a week but have taken 3 months off consecutively and haven't even had one month where I went more than 10 times. I rarely go to gi classes cause I just don't like it and my GI doesn't fit, and the times I go aren't the ones where the main instructor is usually there. he's sometimes there at the beginning for the kids class then leaves and someone else instructs the adult class. regardless, im not worried about ranking up right now. I was listening to Jocko say it doesn't matter your belt just be the best at that belt, so I'm happy being the best 0 stripe white belt on earth, but one day I'd like to get at least a purple belt. is being inconsistent for 2 years gonna stop me from ranking up?

  • @TridentLion
    @TridentLionАй бұрын

    Been training for 21 months. 3 stripe white belt. Competed in 4 tournaments. 3 gold medals. 5-1 record. What a ride so far. I train 3-4 days a week. I feel like blue is around the corner. I want it but don't want to feel like an imposter, especially when competing

  • @M4GN1F1C3NT
    @M4GN1F1C3NTАй бұрын

    I got my blue belt in 8 months and spent 17 years as a blue belt , took 15yrs off bjj, due to life and kids but am currently a 4 strip blue belt now , but was told I will get purple soon in next few months . Very long road but don't really care about the belt I just love to roll and hang with new ppl . Train 3-4 times a week for last 3 years .

  • @cptseagull

    @cptseagull

    Ай бұрын

    Nice one man! 🤙🏼

  • @Arcadianx98
    @Arcadianx98Ай бұрын

    Is there a standard for how to calculate your years? For example, took a year off during covid - do i add that year in how long i was at a belt?

  • @matcore

    @matcore

    Ай бұрын

    Hours on the mat is the real standard. Especially if they're consistent and studying technique outside of actual drilling and rolling. Mentally committing concepts to understanding is an underrated development method when combined with physical training.

  • @billystage
    @billystageАй бұрын

    I think when most people ask when they’ll get a black belt or when they’ll get their next belt, they’re really just asking how long it will take to get good at it or if they’re improving.

  • @douglasbrill1376
    @douglasbrill1376Ай бұрын

    I got my blue belt in 6 months, but I trained exceptionally hard and picked it up very fast , competed , 6 days a week training , private lessons on weeeknds

  • @fodaallama7660

    @fodaallama7660

    Ай бұрын

    Get a life

  • @Monkey45983

    @Monkey45983

    Ай бұрын

    @@fodaallama7660whatd he do to u bruh☠️

  • @b4dmaash
    @b4dmaash2 ай бұрын

    Do you need to register your whitebelt with the ibjjf to be officially recognised?

  • @bulletproofforbjj

    @bulletproofforbjj

    Ай бұрын

    Only if you want to compete at a registered IBJJF competition.

  • @Kd240sx
    @Kd240sxАй бұрын

    Currently almost 6 months in my brown belt. I’ve been training since 2015, when would you guess I’d earn my black belt? I train 3-4 times a week

  • @kidnamedre
    @kidnamedre2 ай бұрын

    The belt takes as long as it takes for your professor to determine your ready

  • @poddubotsky1
    @poddubotsky12 ай бұрын

    Hey guys, what’s your opinion on belt testing, like you have to know and show 20 techniques and you got a promotion, is it bs or right way to do things, thanks

  • @carminecalante8682

    @carminecalante8682

    2 ай бұрын

    Nah. Testing Sounds a bit too karate for me. If you train and roll regularly your coach knows, and you know. If you’re purple, and you can beat most purple and challenge browns then you know you’re pretty much there.

  • @mouthguardcomic

    @mouthguardcomic

    2 ай бұрын

    I think if it is used in conjunction with criteria such as mat time and a minimum time per training each week, it can be a good way to determine if a person is advancing. Also, preparing for tests makes sure that a person spends a lot of time dedicating themselves to learning those techniques. Further, if they have to keep building upon those techniques with each testing period, it makes sure they know the system or curriculum. - I prefer to just give the belts out when people are ready, but if you have a large school or people who are spotty in attendance, this keeps people honest.

  • @bulletproofforbjj

    @bulletproofforbjj

    Ай бұрын

    Every gym has different standards. As long as you are confident in your skills and techniques then thats all good.

  • @theepeopleswarrior
    @theepeopleswarriorАй бұрын

    White 3, blue 3, in my second years as purple

  • @Jiu-JitsuJourney257
    @Jiu-JitsuJourney2572 ай бұрын

    I’ve been a purple belt for about a year and a half. But, I’m not an IBJJF recognized purple belt. Will be soon though.

  • @SubFlow22
    @SubFlow2210 күн бұрын

    I spent 3 years as a white belt because I came from wrestling and it took that long for me to do actual BJJ when rolling. I took 4 stripes off of my purple and started over when I switched gyms. 14 years total to black.

  • @RandRandolph
    @RandRandolphАй бұрын

    I've been training for about 3 years. I'm 5'5 155 lb and I'm 33 years old . I'm a three-stripe white belt. I can hold my own against the blue belts in my gym and even tap them I would say more than I get tapped and they're all bigger than me. I'm currently the Uki at my gym and I know we shouldn't care about belts but I'm curious why they wouldn't have promoted me. Really not trying to sound like a brat but I feel like I've put in the time, I believe I have the skills as I've proven it against plenty of other people that are higher rank and larger and stronger than me. Any advice??? thanks!

  • @ThotBonker

    @ThotBonker

    Ай бұрын

    Do you compete

  • @RandRandolph

    @RandRandolph

    Ай бұрын

    @@ThotBonker I have in the past. Not in over a year

  • @urgilesbarragan

    @urgilesbarragan

    Ай бұрын

    Do you train bjj for the belt or for fun and knowledge ?

  • @RandRandolph

    @RandRandolph

    Ай бұрын

    @urgilesbarragan if I'm being honest, both and it does bother me. I know I shouldn't care but it does bug me. I've given the sport a lot, as much time as I can and some part of me wants the recognition for all my hardwork and dedication I guess. I know it's a "ME" problem but I feel like it's eating at my desire to train. It just sucks because I really do love jiu jitsu but I'm at a weird part of my journey.

  • @randomtiger8406
    @randomtiger8406Ай бұрын

    I made a lot of sacrifices because my life happens by the day. I got my first stripe in 6 months and my second stripe 2 years after that. A lot of the sacrifices don't seem like they were worth it when I compare it to the mat time I lost. I hope they were, but I honestly don't know sometimes. I still go though.

  • @jedjohnson9811
    @jedjohnson981121 күн бұрын

    I love my coach .he only pushes for one tournament and he only does it because it's a submission only tournament in our city

  • @MessianicJewJitsu
    @MessianicJewJitsuАй бұрын

    1 year to Blue 4 years to Purple still at purple since 2017

  • @jnwoodard8764
    @jnwoodard87642 ай бұрын

    I’ve been taking classes 3x per week, plus staying over multiple hours on top of it. I’ve started 7 months ago, but have yet to see a stripe.

  • @alfredopena6956

    @alfredopena6956

    2 ай бұрын

    Have others around you that attend as frequently as you do professed either

  • @duss9728

    @duss9728

    2 ай бұрын

    I've been training a year no gi and have no stripes. A piece of tape doesn't matter bro lmao. I know 10 submissions and a couple moves from every position. Skills>stripes. Keep training 💪

  • @SKRATCH1988

    @SKRATCH1988

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@duss9728 How often do you hit these moves in live sparring rounds?

  • @duss9728

    @duss9728

    Ай бұрын

    @@SKRATCH1988 Against people around my skill or low level blue quite a bit! Depends if were doing positional sparring or just standing too but regardless I'm not completely lost as before. Even with escapes i have the idea on what to do rather then spazzing lol

  • @SKRATCH1988

    @SKRATCH1988

    Ай бұрын

    @@duss9728 nice. Sounds like you're due for a stripe. Some professors will hold you back longer if they think your potential is higher

  • @arrantformula
    @arrantformula2 ай бұрын

    I am brand new to Jiu-jitsu. One month in rolling with my older brother who us knocking on the door to blue belt. He has imposter syndrome and I'm getting frustrated at how easily I am being submitted.

  • @MrZachgonz

    @MrZachgonz

    Ай бұрын

    It only gets worse as you go up in belts. I’d say until you’re brown, you will be getting submitted far more than you submit others. Especially if you start going to advanced classes where brown and black belts will be hunting you and your blue/purple belt.

  • @thefreedomproject4777
    @thefreedomproject47772 ай бұрын

    Trained 2 years in white belt, changed gyms after 1 year they promoted me to green belt 😂, yes adult green belt a.k.a. white belt sandbagging

  • @sasquash8709
    @sasquash8709Ай бұрын

    Nearly 5 years training and compete, I’m a blue belt 4 stripes.

  • @TheCrazyN
    @TheCrazyN18 күн бұрын

    When i trained in BJJ as a white belt, everybody practiced the same techniques and rolled with everybody, so do belts actually mean anything? I now do Muay Thai and there arent any belt, you know where you are based on your sparring and when you coach puts you into fights

  • @stevelewis8961
    @stevelewis8961Ай бұрын

    Took 2 years 3 months for my blue and I’m 1 year into my blue…. We’ll see how long it takes me for my purple

  • @petereriksson6760
    @petereriksson6760Ай бұрын

    Speaking of belts. I think it is problematic to compare BJJ belts with other martial arts. "Normally" you get a black belt in Karate, TKD, Judo etc... it takes about 5-6y give or take. However, in those arts you are still considered a student, albeit an advanced student. I think a purple belt in BJJ is as equivalent as it gets if you have to compare (which is not possible but we all do anyway...). A black belt in BJJ would then be more compared to 3-4th Dan in the other arts. In BJJ you go from 0th to 1st to 2nd black belt and so on by just continuing in the art. There isn't really any official evaluation or grading beyond black belt in BJJ, which there is in the other arts, at least up to 4th Dan... /Peter

  • @ketaminejones3981
    @ketaminejones3981Ай бұрын

    It took me 6 weeks to get my blue belt but it was only because I blue the coach.

  • @ReDuVernay
    @ReDuVernay2 ай бұрын

    Can I leave 5 stars here too? 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

  • @bulletproofforbjj

    @bulletproofforbjj

    Ай бұрын

    Appreciate mate!!

  • @Lifecounselor710
    @Lifecounselor710Ай бұрын

    I think that there is an error pre-2010 and post 2010 BJJ training is a lot different

  • @kylelemon4230
    @kylelemon42302 ай бұрын

    Loll yaa... 5 years as white😅 5 years as blue 😅 been purple for a year..... 11 years in now haha

  • @bobbydabutcha
    @bobbydabutchaАй бұрын

    Blue belt is the real White belt is the most HONEST statement I have ever heard about Jiu Jitsu. I have met, trained with (and sadly, never seen ever again) SOOOOO many Blue belts that do not fully understand this statement.

  • @701garage
    @701garage2 ай бұрын

    White to blue for me was just at 7 months. I've been blue now for 2 months and just got a stripe. This not not normal for anyone esle at the gym I go to.

  • @MrZachgonz

    @MrZachgonz

    Ай бұрын

    My old gym had a VERY high level D1 wrestler who was doing live sparring with the advanced NoGI guys within the first few weeks. He wasn’t promoted but he was encouraged to only do the advanced classes because his skill level was so different from the rest of the beginners.

  • @701garage

    @701garage

    Ай бұрын

    @MrZachgonz kinda like my gym they had me do advance classes after my first beginners class. I could not wrestle in college never had the grades to go to college.

  • @thenomad123
    @thenomad123Ай бұрын

    I been training since December of 2022 and still a white belt... i suck 😢

  • @holden5478

    @holden5478

    Ай бұрын

    Took me two years to crack blue belt too. It took a long time for the basics to finally click for me. I'm still a mess on the mats. Just keep going boss. All that should matter is that you love what you're doing.

  • @Pacopaco888
    @Pacopaco8882 ай бұрын

    it takes 1,000 classes, you decide how many classes you do per week

  • @KazX37

    @KazX37

    2 ай бұрын

    That would mean only 3 years if I attend 7 per week, seems fast

  • @sayville_silver

    @sayville_silver

    2 ай бұрын

    I do 3 classes a week. I should be a black belt in 5 more years then since I'm already blue within my first year and a half.

  • @701garage

    @701garage

    2 ай бұрын

    That mean it would take me 2.5 years to get black

  • @alfredo8092
    @alfredo8092Ай бұрын

    This guy has an entertaining podcast, knows more than a fair bit about Jiu Jitsu, and looks like Rob McElhenney at his hottest... I think i just found a role model

  • @bobsunflower1296
    @bobsunflower1296Ай бұрын

    2 years to blue belt 5 years till purple

  • @rolotomase1440
    @rolotomase1440Ай бұрын

    Don't compete. I'm 50. I trained 4x a week for a year and got a blue belt. Felt like I was ready sooner. Continued training 3-4 days a week for the next 2.5 years and got a purple belt. I would have rather not got it and it seemed a little soon.

  • @Wadell449
    @Wadell449Ай бұрын

    Coming up on 6 years still a white belt.

  • @phykin

    @phykin

    4 күн бұрын

    I'm 8 just train.

  • @TheHarmmm
    @TheHarmmm2 ай бұрын

    I have a friend who was a real natural, went white to blue in 7 months. I got mine in 14 months.

  • @harrypocher84
    @harrypocher842 ай бұрын

    2 and 1/2 years and still white. I love my white belt. When I get the blue everyone in the gym is going to whoop my a$s

  • @hypethevipe5724

    @hypethevipe5724

    Ай бұрын

    Sounds like they already are

  • @axcelblack2808
    @axcelblack280810 күн бұрын

    Genuine Question, why should it take 15 years. It seems to me so much of the conversation around this is trapped by rules made up by Brazilian teachers that have every incentive to lengthen the journey as long as possible. Individuals have gotten it within a few years so clearly the knowledge and skill is learnable to the level of black belt within a short period of time if those people just did jiu jitsu 24/7. I often dont see good definitions for these belts, ESPECIALLY the higher belts. Do you need to know Every technique? probably not as most black belts would not know every technique? They're a master of the art? A master by what standard? what level of skill are we talking about? Are you an expert in every position? What individuals are the standard we're using as an Expert? Viewing it from the outside so much of the BJJ belt system is rooted in mysticism. The activity of BJJ is just submission wrestling so what level of knowledge and skill awards one the rank of brown or black bet? These things have to be definable and not gatekept by some Brazillian coach who obviously is running a business first and foremost.

  • @axcelblack2808

    @axcelblack2808

    10 күн бұрын

    Also if you're Aussie, we by definition question the validity of hierarchies. Its a core component of our culture. We need to be critical of these lengths of time, they need to be justified. We shouldnt be accepting them just because its the "norm", thats idiotic.

  • @deathdog1392
    @deathdog13922 ай бұрын

    Waaaaaaay too long....

  • @mouthguardcomic

    @mouthguardcomic

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I think a massive reordering is going to naturally occur soon.

  • @holden5478
    @holden5478Ай бұрын

    I stopped caring about belts in my late 20s. The older you get the less important they become. The only thing that should matter is finding a gym/school/dojo that you love attending.

  • @ah8953
    @ah89532 ай бұрын

    The time really shouldnt matter its should be skill based. Some people are far better naturally and athletically. Its fucking annoying when you go to a gym and roll with black and browns and control them the entier time becauae they only got there belt because of the "time they spent" and there clearly not at that level. Cole abate is a perfect example got his brown won worlds clearly hes above the brown level so gave him his black right there.

  • @mouthguardcomic

    @mouthguardcomic

    2 ай бұрын

    If it is that way, then that is an issue. However, when you rolled with them, did you submit them? The reason I ask is because as a brown belt, I often roll with guys and work from positions I want to improve in. I may not be able to do so with brown or black belts or certain purple belts. Or the guy may be so aggressive, I will just defend as I feel no threat submission wise. It´s not a tournament so who cares if he is going all out for a position. However, usually after a few rolls, I will turn it up a little and then submit the same person with no issue as they burn themselves out trying to prove how good they are when they first start rolling. Many newer guys and especially some guys who gain rank really quickly have not had time to experience the ups and downs or may not understand what it takes for other people to be on the mat. As you progress you learn that strategy and experience can also be a good way to beat people as opposed to overt aggression and pure dominance (not saying that is what you are doing). I have wrist-locked and heel hooked people who just knew they were in control of a situation, but really weren´t.

  • @ah8953

    @ah8953

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mouthguardcomic yea I submitted them. I understand where you're coming from as well because I tend to play that game as well with people letting them work until they just make a little mistake. I can tell when people are letting me work or not as well. I'm a pretty mellow roll never over aggressive. I will say I came from an MMA background growing up for years so I had experience before I strictly just doing BJJ. But there are definitely some gyms that just give away belts to easy or based off time.

  • @mouthguardcomic

    @mouthguardcomic

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ah8953 True, I agree some give them away too easily. However, I think that may be the exception more than the rule in our sport/art, unless they are really isolated. If their guys compete, they will come back and demand a change or leave. One last thing, I think a lot of gyms that are based on time actually demotivate people as they learn that all of their hard work is not rewarded. Even though most people want to be self starters, extrinsic motivation plays a huge role. Plus, if you know (even with heavy training) it will take 3 years from purple to brown or 4 years from brown to black, you may realize that two-a-days, five times a week practices will leave you broken down and burned out. Even five days a week puts a strain on anyone who is trying to advance in our current training model. People may become those guys you experienced from sheer de-motivation.

  • @jamesbyrd5175

    @jamesbyrd5175

    Ай бұрын

    Of course it should matter and why is it annoying? Just tell them you want the top competitors when visiting a gym or enter tournaments, boom easy you get your tough rolls. And belts make much more sense for hobbyists. Competitors already have tournaments, that's your ranking system. Belts are the easy way of rewarding hobbyists. Do you want less of those people , because it's just less money and opportunities for you hardcores anyway at the end of the day. Retention is bad enough as is and giving hobbyists something to aim for other than "just get better or quit" is good practice. Which inevitably will end up being something time based.

  • @mouthguardcomic

    @mouthguardcomic

    Ай бұрын

    @@jamesbyrd5175 Also, without the regular crowd, the competitors would not have anyone to practice with. Additionally, everyone except, maybe one percent, are recreational grapplers. I think people confuse themselves because they pay to compete and think they are pros. That's not to be mean, it is just to say that everyone needs to be appreciated and to say that people who do wish to advance, need to be respected. If you don't want people to complain, don't hand out belts at all.

  • @briand5223
    @briand5223Ай бұрын

    Also bs that your school has to be recognized by ibjjf . Heard theres a lot of political nonsense circling that

  • @thatoneguy6165
    @thatoneguy61657 күн бұрын

    I trained at a gym in Hawaii a minimum of 3 times a week for 3 years. Old school with a photo of Renzo Gracie on the wall, and all training was solely gi. I left as a white belt and moved back to the mainland at the end of those 3 years. I enrolled at a new academy, and was tapping their purple belts. Focus on the art.

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