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@slashismyhommie8182

Жыл бұрын

If you want to see super early Ice T, the 1984 Cannon film Breakin' features him doing some cheesy rap performances. It's a notoriously bad film. And fun fact, in the opening scene it features a yet to be known Jean Claude Van Damme with a group of break dancers in Venice beach as just a random extra who throws some high fives around. The plot is totally 80s, the kids gotta breakdance to save their youth center from a greedy old millionaire. And Ice T's performance is something to experience.

@floydsemlow8253

Жыл бұрын

Cop killers all over KZread live versions edited versions lyrical versions everywhere on KZread. In fact 20 years later he still performs it live . Body count performs that song every time they play there's a video of him performing at live at riot festt 2021 on KZread.

@almoen5412

Жыл бұрын

See the thing is is if you grow up and that kind of environment if you grew up with police officers then you know how f****** dirty they are and if you don't you have been brainwashed by your f****** daddy your daddy isn't telling you what's going on and what's crazy is all these cops they turn a blind eye because of money money money money money and you want to know how it's comes in money insurance benefits 401K yeah that's how they keep all these all these officers in line isn't that crazy people are willing to sell their souls over life insurance and benefits so your daddy turned a blind eye probably on at least four murders but yeah he was a good daddy guess what my family also grew up in that kind of environment guess what every single one of us quit besides one we all saw how corrupt the police force was and we were all in different parts of America me and my grandpa Minnesota my mom Colorado my sister Washington my uncle Florida and guess what we all saw the same corrupt s*** and we couldn't change it so we got out we don't give a f*** about selling our souls for for benefits and insurance

@almoen5412

Жыл бұрын

Any cops that are cops right now are not good cops because they know other cops that are doing dirty work and instead of calling them out and getting them fired and starting internal investigations they turn a blind eye so guess what that is considered an accomplice so you're sitting there saying that your daddy was a good daddy and guess what he knew of at least four murders by police officers that he covered up I can promise you that I wonder how many rapes he's covered up I wonder how many illegal arrest he's covered up I wonder how many a little rest he's been a part of lofl

@Nastyb77

Жыл бұрын

Ice himself told me to check this out. Nice vid man

dan the man at the beginning was quoting the song and was low key getting into the flow a little and thinking "this is catchy"

@unbroken1010

Жыл бұрын

He was thinking my Jewish white male friends owns the record label. What do I do to get out of this one. 😂

@springer90

Жыл бұрын

He even said it was catchy lol

@codexmachina1358

Жыл бұрын

@@unbroken1010 nah he knew Jewish and white weren't the same

@noshttaken

Жыл бұрын

@@codexmachina1358 uh huh. Kkk

@noshttaken

Жыл бұрын

Ironic cause it’s Charles Heston 5 time president of the NRA. If the song was hillbillies singing about feds coming down on a white religious armed cult or armed white peoples on federal lands he would be boppin to the tunes.

Damn Finn.... I'm 53 and those same thoughts went through my head. I was in the Marines at that time. When my barracks mate, who was black, went to buy the cassette, he expected rap. I expected rap. What we heard blew our minds. He began to explore hardcore and I dove into rap. That album changed the way we both looked at music. Ice T is a legend. Awesome content!!!!!!

@Alan_Duval

Жыл бұрын

That's so great! Love that.

@shvrkofficial2616

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah

@Person4649Person

11 ай бұрын

That's called being a cultural cuck. Rap is inherently inferior. No thanks boy!

@ryanjofre

10 ай бұрын

Awesome

@HemiSlant6828

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for your service.

As a black girl, it was interesting hearing a take from someone who grew up around cops. I respect that you don’t like the titles in those songs, but I love that you were able to understand the context around why those songs exist. I’ve always been aware of body count, but I didn’t know they were still active. Great video!!!

@CrabSully

Жыл бұрын

I also definitely think he's right in that without these titles, they would not have made the ground that they did. Being provocative is definitely the only way to get heard. The media aren't going to advertise a nuanced take on a situation, so the most effective way to be heard is to rage bait. Gotta get them talking about it.

@jack8580

Жыл бұрын

I agree! No one has to agree with a statement but it is very important to understand why people feel the way they do about things.

@dehartgertrude128

Жыл бұрын

one of these days whites will stop being morons and unite with yall us whites like to act like we run shit but wea all know who really does

@Badenhawk

Жыл бұрын

I definitely check my own privilege there with Finn. Growing up in rural Idaho with little to no knowledge of "bad cops", my dad even being a reserve cop for a long time, it's still relatively foreign to me to have a hatred toward the police. I really feel for people who had to deal with this.

@rodjerdankist1125

Жыл бұрын

Why the hell does it matter if your black?

My mom was a cop in the 70s that abused her position so we come from opposite points of view. She was a horrible mother too so I was waiting for this song since I was 6 years old. Everyone loves Body Count, I put them in the same category as Black Sabbath and Johnny Cash, they transcend genres.

@michaelpetrovich5353

Жыл бұрын

I was a cop for 22 years and i loved Bodycount. 😁Sorry to hear at about your Mother. Unfortunately, many cops forget that they are there to help and protect the citizens not to put them done.

@herps4life33

Жыл бұрын

Lol easy bro

@SW-ii5gg

Жыл бұрын

Everyone loves Rooftop Koreans more. They were above all that surrounded them. Woo woo Daewoo!!!!!

@0therun1t21

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelpetrovich5353 Thank you so much for doing it for the right reason, I know that can be rough. I've encountered decent humans in police uniforms too and I know sometimes they get paired with not so decent partners. I hope your experience didn't bring you down.

@0therun1t21

Жыл бұрын

@John Smith Ok

I found it so ironic that MC Hammer was apart of the “friendly Hip Hop/Rap” when him as a person was more gangster than alot of the gangster rappers

@rahsaanthomas7030

11 ай бұрын

Ice-T said that Hammer was good for the image of rap.

@corvettefever360

10 ай бұрын

So true tho, mad people confirm that hammer is more gangsta than the so called gangstas. Such as most of NWA. Crazy right?

@MarkBeckford

9 ай бұрын

​@@corvettefever360except for Eazy e 👍

@user-td6wy7xe8s

9 ай бұрын

No, he was and is a pastor in Oakland

I love when music is explained in the context of time it was released in. It gives a greater depth and meaning to both the events and the art.

@michaeld1889

Жыл бұрын

It's why I love his channel so much. 😁

@donlyphans7801

Жыл бұрын

...except when he leaves out the entire crack epidemic

@brittanybutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Mic The Snare is pretty great at doing that as well. It’s such a great touch!

@charlesbolton8471

Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t just apply to music it’s the same for movies, plays, books, and paintings, etc. The circumstances of the era in which the work was created are rarely ever insignificant.

As a Black guy that grew up listening to rock, but was VERY MUCH in the inner city and got scenario typed from both White and Black people - I appreciate that this video exists! Great work, Finn!🤘🤘🤘

I bought the original Body Count album with Copkiller on it the day it came out in Germany. My friends and I listened to it and when my friends tried to buy it as well, it was gone. I had the honor to have the album signed at a signing session that Body Count did at Wacken Open Air in Germany and I feel it's one of my most precious material possessions.

@CreepyNoodlesK

10 ай бұрын

That’s so rad! You should post a short video showing it on KZread and link back here.

So much respect for your Dad. While I can't speak from personal experience, for a law enforcement officer to acknowledge that there are bad cops and appreciate an artist expressing themselves regarding it speaks volumes of his character. I'm 41 now, and it is really hard to explain how subversive hip hop used to be. If you had told me as a kid that Ice T would be playing a cop and selling products to middle white america today, or snoop dogg would be on tv cooking with martha stewart, my brain would've broken 😂

@ThePunkRockMBA

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@selfan2005

Жыл бұрын

Remember Busta Rhymes onstage with Martha, at the 1997 MTV VMA's?

@davidallamericananarchist9220

Жыл бұрын

My dad is a retired cop with 25 years of experience, and he started during the aftermath of the Rodney King riots and the emergence of “community oriented policing”, and then he watched all of those minor reforms get thrown out in the aftermath of 9/11 and then police brutality actually got worse then it already was, and by the time he retired in 2016, he was completely disillusioned with police work and the culture around it…

@michaeld1889

Жыл бұрын

@@davidallamericananarchist9220 that honestly is awful. While I have very little first hand knowledge and experience, I've always bristled at the idea that good cops fear the bad, when it should be the other way around, you know? Thank you to your Dad for giving of himself for 25 long years!

@davidallamericananarchist9220

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeld1889 My dad worked for 25 years in one of the countries most notoriously brutal departments (Kern County Sheriffs Office, California) and never had a single use of force complaint, however he worked with a guy who shot 5 people in that same time span so there’s good ones and bad ones…

Big applause for bringing attention to Body Count. Their first album is still one of the best albums ever.

@ponzo1967

Жыл бұрын

That second record with Dead man walking, You're Fckn with BC, Truth or Death, and several others was fire 🔥 I haven't heard it in awhile but it is hardcore and well crafted.

@alexandersippel

Жыл бұрын

DAMN FUCKIN RIGHT 🤘🤘🤘

@ThompterSHunson

Жыл бұрын

@@ponzo1967 Born Dead was a good album indeed. But I don't think anything can compare with BC In The House, Bowels of the Devil, Voodoo, There Goes The Neighborhood, KKK Bitch, etc. As I previously said, one of the best albums ever.

@ponzo1967

Жыл бұрын

@@ThompterSHunson I remember Born Dead, yes excellent record, actually the second and I meant the third record that didn't even chart but was a killer "Violent Demise." The song "Strippers" makes me laugh. There's another band called Bionic Jive with an album called Armageddon through your Speakers which is interesting and similar style, not quite as gangster but check out Break the Chains or I shot Lucifer on KZread. Not sure if it will lose affect on a phone or computer because the production and engineering is spun for high volume but that stuff rocks ridiculously hard as well. My brother turned me on to Born Dead I never actually owned the disc.

@ExtremeNPutridMusic

Жыл бұрын

I'm a big fan of punk and crossover but that albums sucks for me, I believe only Cop Killer is the one great song

True story, back in like 1992 or 1993, I went to this huge concert put on by a radio station in L.A.. About halfway through the day, Ice-T came walking through the venue with a huge group of Crips and Bloods from all different sets with him . A hush went through the crowd as he passed. Never experienced anything like that before or since. The amount of respect this man commanded without a word was astounding.

@CreepyNoodlesK

10 ай бұрын

😮

My favorite thing about Ice T was something that he said in the video where they covered Raining Blood, where Body Count was formed because he wanted to help his highschool friend Ernie out and give him a platform to play guitar. Such an awesome thing to do

This is hands down your best video ever. The way you took time to provide the cultural context for that era to explain their impact was awesome.

@ThePunkRockMBA

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@robertoaranda4207

Жыл бұрын

took the words right out of my brain

@noir4356

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. It even bears up to academic standards.

@MattSloanVMMP

Жыл бұрын

Seriously this should be a classroom standard

@jodino6953

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePunkRockMBA Good Evening Mr. MBA-I-look-like-the-singer-from-R.E.M., Can you make a video about Eminem, and how Eminem started off as an Alternative Rapper and which he paved way to. Eminem is the only rapper that broke out as an artist to go to Warp Tour 1999!!! EMINEM IS GROUNDBREAKING!

Huge props to your Dad to give you a straight up honest answer about the question. No sugar coating. Just a real world answer.

Charlton Heston was smiling when he read the lyrics out loud, I bet he was a Body Count fan.

@michaelpetrovich5353

Жыл бұрын

I am as well and I was a cop for 22 years. 😊

@calmbbaer

9 ай бұрын

Funny thing is that the much-despised hard-line of the present-day (and Heston's) NRA was brought into being by those who advocated for the rights of all people (read: "black people") to bear arms at a time people frightened by the Black Panthers were trying to curtail that right. When people say, "What happened to the NRA being an outfit about gun safety and marksmanship?", that's what happened. WNYC's More Perfect had a good episode about this, the so-called "Revolt at Cincinnati."

Respect to your dad for being able to recognise & call out bad behaviour in an institution of which he was a member. A sign he was one of the good guys.

Ice-T is a national treasure. I was never a fan of gangsta rap (I was and am on the more afrocentric/conscious hip-hop side of things) but Body Count blew my mind when they came out, saw them live in 95 and they were amazing.

@JazzSoulMetal

Жыл бұрын

They’re getting better and better with age!

I was around 21 when all of this happened and I was going to 'alternative' clubs during that time.I was dancing to F*** The Police and Me So Horny in these clubs while radio stations refused to play them.Punks, goths, and other weirdos were among the first people to hear and support these bands.Same goes for Prince.

@tracerxrider

Жыл бұрын

Same. The Phoenix underground was just like that.

@thenewwavejoeshow

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@RogueBoyScout

Жыл бұрын

I find it interesting this whole idea of scenes... In my nation, well back in the old days lol, we just liked anything, we were grateful for anything fresh.... So while you always had those who would choose a "life" (metalhead/hip hop head ect) we always had CD or tape collections that just had NWA and Slayer, KLF ECT.. like I said, our nation was still getting drunk off pub rock. Although by the 90's came around, we were lucky to bear witness to a second golden era of local alternative music. By alternative I mean anything that wasn't played on the "pop" station or the "chock blocks of rock" station (which was always the same 5 songs, and you better believe Cold Chisel was one)

It should be noted what a HUGE Slayer fan Ice-T is. I don't think Slayer would've been down to collaborate with most rappers, but I'm sure they saw right away that T knew and loved their body of work, and what a huge influence they were on Body Count.

@nekrazero8331

26 күн бұрын

Body Count's cover of raining blood is amazing

Ice-T's feature on Six Feet Under's track One Bullet Left is probably the heaviest bit of rapmetal ever created . That shit goes HARD.

@RamManNo1

Жыл бұрын

He makes that song for sure!

Yo…the Judgement night soundtrack still holds up. Edit: You should do a video on it. It was groundbreaking. We were like “ Ice T and Slayer? What? Cypress Hill and Sonic Youth? How…how would that even work?” It was hard to comprehend until you listened to it. Way, way ahead of its time.

@mikeyfn-a6684

Жыл бұрын

I honestly wanna say he actually did that already (?) 🤔🤔🤔 Or maybe was just a small mention on some other video

@ryanhursh6322

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah that album holds up very well. That Helmet and House of Pain is still one of the hardest. FNM and Boo Ya Tribe too… most that album is fantastic.

@mdventertainment

Жыл бұрын

A whole video on the greatest soundtrack ever Judgement Night would be so good

@jasvav1

Жыл бұрын

Top ten album I have to carry with me for the rest of my life!

@Alan_Duval

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Great soundtrack. Then maybe follow up with the soundtrack for Spawn.

The rock and metal community can be weirdly anti-rap / anti-hip hop, so I really hope this video does well. I enjoy when Finn talks about broader genres of music and topics, and doesn’t box himself into one predictable thing. This was a great video.

@SamuraiSilverhand

Жыл бұрын

It truly is baffling when you consider the underground origins and societal backlash the genres all shared in.

@zacharyengle4256

Жыл бұрын

Ironic considering nu metal is heavily influential now.

@mostmost1

Жыл бұрын

Punk and hiphop were weirdly cousins. some rock fans didnt like either.

@PeterKnagge

Жыл бұрын

Maybe that's because in the 80's/90's metalheads, skaters, bombers, nazi punks, jocks, mainstream, blacks, Italians, Asians, and other nationalities, ethnicities, and religious groups, (plus gays, nerds, and girls/women) all violently hated one another and would find any excuse whatsoever to bash or murder one another. "Stranger Things" is a lie, it wasn't like that, everyone stayed in their group out of safety in numbers. It's not like today where everything is watered down and oversaturated.

@PeterKnagge

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: NIN "Big Man with a gun" is an f you to rap music "Rap music is the music of the people, because everyone likes staring at booty and shooting one another!!" - anon

Saw it performed live when they were opening for GNR in the 90's. The cops doing security in the arena "took a break" when Body Count were playing.

I’ve been to tons of concerts of numerous genres since 1996 and seeing Ice and Body Count play Cop Killer live remains one of the all time music moments I have experienced.

Maaan...excellent job on this video. You hit every talking point like a pro. I remember all of this like it was yesterday. People don't realize how much hate this man received for "Cop Killer." They shouldn't let his fame fool them; Ice MF T is hardcore to the bone marrow. The man has hustled his entire career and, in my estimation, defeated the machine at its own game. He talked about gang-banging, crooked cops, censorship, and genre fusion before it was a real thing. Nice touch mentioning New Jack City and the amazing Judgment Night soundtrack. Ice was so ahead of his time. This video gets the *chef's kiss*

I saw Soundgarden in 1992. They covered Cop Killer. This was at Lollapalooza. Soundgarden was on stage and performed that just before Ice Cube's set, who had one of the best shows of the day. Pretty memorable.

@cobraalaniz149

Жыл бұрын

Say what??? 😳

@MontanaYeti406

Жыл бұрын

You in St. Paul?

@noizetrauma242

Жыл бұрын

@@MontanaYeti406 No. This was in Irvine, CA.

@claytonbinns7679

Жыл бұрын

Chris even says they covered it bc he doesn't like that body count was censored

@stever8168

20 күн бұрын

thats wild!

I was just out of high school when this song came out. You can’t understate how big of a deal this was. You explained it very well. This might be my favorite video of yours. This was a turbulent but amazing time. Well done my friend.

@punkrockford

Жыл бұрын

Love that Ice-T saw the video and liked it.

Body Count is an amazing band and still out there kicking ass. Punk will never die.

Been a fan of Body Count, Ice- T, NWA since the early 90s. LOVE their music. Also, the Judgement Night soundtrack is one of the most underrated soundtracks of all time. It is SO damn good. SO many good bands mixed with rap on it.

@danbauer3669

Жыл бұрын

Judgment Night! That album is great! I'm not sure if I've seen the movie. Helmet & House Of Pain, Biohazard & Onyx, Slayer & Ice-T.

@gettinbucked42069

Жыл бұрын

@@danbauer3669 you don't have to waste your time with watching the movie. It's not very good.

@invaderjae

Жыл бұрын

@@danbauer3669 The movie is actually pretty good also. At least I like it. lol

@krymera666x7

Жыл бұрын

Judgement Night is still in my playlist to this day. Has been for over 25 years.

@bazookajoe2889

Жыл бұрын

Onyx/Biohazard fit together like a perfect puzzle .

I have 'Cop Killer' downloaded on my old computer, I can promise you I'll never let that song be killed so to speak. I did not realize that it had been pretty much scrubbed from existence. That's crazy to me. I remember hearing that shit at like 15-16 years old in the mid 2000's and thinking it was the most bad ass shit I'd ever heard. I love Ice-T. I used to watch him and his wife's reality show back in the day. Great video as always Finn! 🤘💓 Edited to add- props to you Finn for having a law enforcement family and still being able to see past that and realize that there is an issue that needs addressed. And props to your dad too! I feel like a lot of people who come from law enforcement or have families in law enforcement don't or won't see a problem. So yeah, that's awesome.

@icecold2021

Жыл бұрын

Need a link

@futuristic.handgun

Жыл бұрын

@@icecold2021 I'll have to get on that computer and transfer it to a different device and upload it somewhere, but I promise I do have it. I'll get on that.

@mjriemen

Жыл бұрын

Its on KZread right now…. Its remarkably easy to find. “Scrubbed from the Internet…?” Nah bro

@mjriemen

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/fnxsybehdMech6g.html

@futuristic.handgun

Жыл бұрын

@@mjriemen Well that's good to know. I'm glad it's still out there.

Judgement Night! What a great collection of some insane collabs. One of my all time fav soundtracks!

@LaurenLawDawg

Жыл бұрын

I was just about to write this. It's absolutely the best soundtrack ever made! I listen to it often...daily almost.

I have always loved Body Count. I was never big into Hip Hop but I do like Ice-T as a rapper as well. Their newer music is more metal, their earlier stuff has a lot more punk and hardcore influences. Cop Killer is an all time classic.

Body Count is so interesting. It's not only the agression and the social messaging. There's a lot of humor in those songs. And storytelling. And wit.

@palainanoctem3776

Жыл бұрын

Evil Dick is just raw asf lol

The interesting thing is Hammer was the most gangster out of all of them. He ran Oakland. Other rappers had to check in when they did shows there. If you dissed him on record, you would be getting a visit. He was no joke. Which is hilarious because he was probably the first rapper to make broader white society feel safe. I appreciate you covering this. Good work! A lot of Gen Z and even mellenials don't know what pearl clutching pansies Americans were. Not that long ago... The federal government even tried to remove 2pac's albums from circulation. These people still exist and lot of people still vote for folks that think like this. Even though they're supposed to be free speech warriors.

@matthewstubblefield7337

Жыл бұрын

Brought the lords hammer down maybe lol

That first lollapalooza was the best one. The ones that came after that just didn’t cut it and Ice T definitely lead the way for groups like Linkin Park, and Limp Bizkit in the rap rock genre.

I was a manager at a big box record store that pulled it from the shelves shortly after it was released. Body Count was amazing at Lollapalooza '92

This one of your best, Finn! Understanding all of this with the context of the times is fantastic! Great work, man!

I love when Finn talk about other types of music other than rock & metal. He's one of the reason why I listen to pop again after I dropped it 5 years ago (because I tried to be edgy that rock is "real" music lol).

@zacharyengle4256

Жыл бұрын

My idea of real music is when the musicians write their own lyrics and music, and can actually play an instrument. A reason I don't like super mainstream crap.

@zacharyengle4256

Жыл бұрын

That said, Kelly Clarkson, Avril Lavigne, Katy Perry > other popstars

@hitthegoat

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharyengle4256 all music is real music. Even if the singer doesn’t write their own music, it’s still real music. Some people have the vocal talent but can’t write songs, and some people are damn good song writers but can’t sing. All music is real music, even if you don’t like it.

Ice-T has a musical talent that transcends above and beyond all genre barriers.

Back when I was a 11/12 year old white kid this tape was going around on school. I heared the cop killer album and man I fell in love instantly. I already loved metal and rap. And to hear these 2 combined in such a aggressive way made me feel like the 2 world's of hiphop and metal had fused and grew into a big monster. Till this day I love Ice T's work, both his rap and bodycount. And this video is good tribute to Ice T.

I was never a fan of Body Count in the 90's and 00's but after the amazing album Bloodlust from 2017, they became one of my favorite bands.

@raidermaxx2324

Жыл бұрын

thats hella fucking weird. How old are you?

@blesner1983

Жыл бұрын

@@raidermaxx2324 38. First heard the 94 album in 96 so I was 12 or 13.

@dkay636

Жыл бұрын

Bloodlust is BC's best album

@raidermaxx2324

Жыл бұрын

@@dkay636 thats a really dumb thing to say but ok

Been loving all your stuff, new and old. We moved to LA in 1992, and at 8 years old, I remember being scared that the city was burning. But I was raised by a single parent father, who happened to be a 2nd lieutenant in the army, kept me safer and taught me so much. I got into punk and raves at 13 and I remember Body Count being prominent in my world, even at a young age. Then I got into Fugazi, opp ivy and a bunch of others. But, I’m glad you feature this one. Have you ever done one on Death for the Whole World to See? Anyway, keep up the good work. ✊🏾🤘👋🏾

Hell yeah, brother! Thought it was worth mentioning his early life a bit. Dude was a paratrooper in the army in 25th I.D. where he was DJing barracks and the whole reason he enlisted was to take care of a kid he had just prior. Mother dumped the kid on him and bailed and he still did what was right. He's also a huge 2A advocate and always has been and he deserves tons of credit for that. Truly a man out to break down barriers and make the world a better place.

We listened to Body Count all the time, when I was in civil service (the alternative to military service in my country) working as an ambulance driver. Good times, Body Count will always be a band that's very dear to my heart! Also dig what he did with the newer albums and the massages he sends. Ice-T seems like a really reasonable person to me, would love to meet him one day.

Thanks for taking me back to high school for this one Finn, I very much remember this period of time. The media was always trying to bring down hip-hop music, which was why they always referred to "Cop Killer" as a rap song instead of rock. Then the ultimate gangsta move was when they went completely away from why the '92 Rebellion happened in the first place, and instead put all focus and attention on this song. Unlike what Bush was talking about, that was sick. On a side note, in the beginning of the video for Body Count's cover of "Raining Blood/Postmortem," Ice T mentioned 3 bands that would be the inspiration behind their sound: 1.The impending doom of Black Sabbath. 2.The Venice Beach gang bang stylistics of Suicidal Tendencies. 3.The technical ability of Slayer. Every time I hear their music, I hear those influences loud and clear.

My dad was in the military in the early 90’s and was a cop later down the road but raised me listening to too short, 2 live crew, nwa and all sorts of other good music. I still respect the good cops and dislike the bad ones, like you said he kinda had to be a little “click bait-ey” if you will to get eyes back then. Good video as always

I'll never forget finding the cassette for 2 live crew "as nasty as they wanna be" with my neighbor in my dad's stuff in the basement in the mid 90s. I have never EVER heard my dad listen to rap in my life, he's all about led zeppelin and classic rock. I have never brought it up to him to this day because I don't know if he was trying to hide it from everyone or if it was even his to begin with. But it was the beginning of my love for hip hop/rap and I would consider myself a hip hop historian these days after researching all things rap for countless hours. I love everything about it.

I love that he made Body Count his primary musical project, but Original Gangater is the one in this primarily rock fan's list of top ten best albums lyrically. He paints pictures on that record.

As a young, white, suburban metalhead in the 90s, hearing bands like Body Count and Skunk Anansie was pretty eye opening. I'd heard hardcore rap before, but never cared for it, so I tuned it out. But when I heard the same message coming through in these metal songs, it showed me a world I was unfamiliar with. The songs could be shocking, yes, but they were blunt and honest, and that's really the only way you can talk about this kind of stuff. Thirty years later, people are acting like "cancel culture" and BLM was born out of some vacuum disconnected with reality, but if you were paying attention to this shit in the 90s, you saw it coming and weren't surprised. Anyway, Body Count's Bloodlust was one of the best albums that year. Check that shit out.

Upon A Burning Body also featured him on their cover of "Turn Down For What" on the Punk Goes Pop Vol. 6, and it was awesome! His band is really sick, too

@blippityblahblah

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They removed the song from the album… bc a Metallica hook and lil John… went to see UABB a bunch a yrs ago and asked the merch guy why the song wasn’t on the download 🤬 luckily found the original CD on Amazon…. Love that song 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

@redneckmetalhead1931

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@@blippityblahblah damn, i didn't know that!! That's a bummer bc that track was 🔥

@spaggio

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Shouldn't it be "Pop goes punk" though? It always bothered me...

Got this on cassette...17 yrs old back in the 90's. Went to get it on C.D but the last song on side A 'Cop Killa' was missing. Near 50 now. Massive insight from Ice T. Colors was huge 💙💙👊🏽👊🏽

I freaking loved this song. Growing up I had a strong love for Hip Hop and Punk so when I discovered Body Count they instantly became a favorite.

Great video Finn. I think you can even ad Body Counts more recent song "No lives Matter" into the mix. Ice T has his finger on the pulse of social issues and is not afraid to let it be heard what his opinions are.

I love how you bring an authentic point of view on all of your videos. I’m loving your content man keep it up!

The Judgement Night soundtrack is one of the greatest soundtracks ever made. Great movie too. I grew up on these times and Ice-T , NWA, Ice Cube put it all out there to shed so much light of the injustice that was going on during those times…Seeing Ice-T then and now..he never backed down and did what he had to do to get his message & thoughts out. He’s just a legend! I use to get so much crap in High School because I was a black female into rock and metal and I didn’t care. I was at the concerts, in the mosh pits, at the festivals etc singing and rocking out to everything. Back then I enjoyed knowing that Ice-T was very into rock/punk so I never felt like I only had to stay in a lane of just listening to rap only just because. Ages later I’m still blasting metal out of my car and loving it all still the same. Great video!!!

I was 13 when this album came out and my older brother & I went on a mission to some sketchy record store that still had the original pre-ban CD with the song on it. It felt like we were buying government secrets or something! I can’t even express how big a deal this song was.

You are a gem in the world of music culture. Thank you for your effort Finn.

I’ve always liked Bodycount as well as his rap stuff. He’s such an underrated rapper!!!

I was in my late teens back then and I can so clearly remember the impact of those records. There are a few records of that period that totally blew me away. Literally life changing.

YES! It's videos like these that me happy to support your Patreon and continue following your content. Seriously, one of the best you've ever made.

I think Finn is doing something positive for the culture around music, so I try to comment on his videos so maybe they get seen more.

Great mix of cultural context and thoughtful, personal takes.

Great video man. I was in high school during most of these events so I got to see them all play out in real time. The other day I was talking to my daughter about this stuff, but your presentation got mine beat by a mile. It's got video clips, and actual research. Just sent it to her ✌🏼😎

Glad he was able to watch this video of yours, and can confirm how accurate and high quality this video really is! Congrats man, you deserve all the praise for making such high quality videos, especially on such complicated and sensitive subjects. Really appreciate your fairness and openness about your own bias’ and perspective on your video subjects. Keep on crushing it!

Ice-T getting the Cheerios commercial is the funniest thing I have seen!

Love IceT and Body Count! I have nothing against law enforcement but this band really rock's!

Great video! Probably the best one yet! Cop killer came out when I was in 10th grade. Every time you turned on the news, there it was! That album was definitely a game changer. The more they wanted it off of the shelves, the more people wanted to listen to it. I have always loved ice t's take no shit attitude. I have always been into rap, metal, punk, hardcore and crossover music. Ice t has always been in rotation in my music. I'm 49 years old now and play in a crossover band. Sometimes before we hit the stage, we play ice t's shut up, be happy as our intro to start off our set. Doesn't get any better than that. Ice t song, Black Sabbath music and Jello Biafra saying the lyrics! Long live ice t!

I am someone who comes from a conservative background, growing up disbelieving in police brutality and the dysfunction of our legal system, because of my limited white-view; this album helped change my entire belief system. I became educated after listening in MalcolmX, the black panther party’s ideology, and critical race theory. I believe it is such a cultural icon of a record that teachers and professors should show it in it’s entirety to students across America. It is so contemporary and potent I would call it one of the panicles of punk.

Always been a fan of Ice and BC. Honestly, they’re one of those bands that I think has gotten so much better with time. I bought their carnivore album, actually, the CD that came out in the last four or five years and I was blown away with the progress the band has made. I mean I was a body count fan back when they first came out and I had their first three albums, and I always love the first one, the second one I didn’t think was that great the third one had some good songs on it but I recently went back and listen to the first album and they were a metal band or considered a metal band but they had a lot more punk influence then they didn’t metal I failed but today they’re putting out some kick ass metal music in my opinion.

YES! You know, its crazy how Ice-T isn't spoken about enough in the Punk/Hardcore/Metal word when one song got such a bad rep that is was essentially censored into a history lesson. I respect the hell out of you for even having this video even coming out. TBF though, I've tried to listen, and I don't think Body Count is great musically, but the impact should be spoken about more. I mean, 2 Live Crew won their case on First Amendment grounds, but Ice-T got cancelled before the term existed. Last time I saw outrage like this was WAP and Lil Nas X's Montero music video.

@vorpalblades

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Nobody talks about it because the tunes are terrible. If Ice-T wasn't in the band, no one would give a shit.

@josefk.122

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Ice T walked so Zulu and Soul Glo could run. He influenced soooo many POC Hardcore bands, and continues to to this very day.

Body count is so sick, I'd say they're right in the middle of metal and hardcore. He does an epic and hilarious cover of institutionalized, then has a song with Max Cavalara called all love is lost that's super heavy. I love the versatility and variety of iced T and body count!

Dude. Love the channel. Just saw your No Jumper interview and it was fantastic. Yes I am a pretentious Mike Patton fan. And yes I’m eagerly awaiting my Ween fandom to get lampooned in a video. But punk and hardcore are genres that have always escaped me with a few one-off exceptions, like Body Count. And it’s great to get an education without feeling too far removed from the conversation. Love your work. All the best.

Damn you really killed it Finn. One of your best vids. Ice T deserves all his flowers.

I have the long-box version of that album still factory sealed. contains Cop Killer. one of my most prized parts of my record collection 🤘

@buckfiden6227

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I have an unopened long box BC/CK also. I also have an opened CC CD & cassette.

One of your bests, Finn! Great work 👏

I’ve loved almost all of your videos Finn, but this one really kicked ass. Love Ice-T and loved the history and context you added to his message! Bravo sir!

I love how you make it a point to mention suicidal tendencies in everyone of your videos

Body Count on OG is a punk rock masterpiece. I remember when the Body Count album dropped. Picked it up immediately. The album literally started with a skit where Ice blasts away some officers in a parked police car. Not exactly subtle... but damn, if you love punk rock, that album kicks so much ass with tracks like KKK Bitch, Evil Dick, and There Goes the Neighborhood. Body Count at the first Lollapalooza 👍, and then Soundgarden covered 'Cop Killer' live during Lollapalooza 2 when I saw them. That song made a severe statement, but became a much larger statement about censorship in music.

I’m convinced that body count is why it’s acceptable now to love rock genres and rap genres. I remember when it was still considered weird, when most people actually did listen to both, but there was this weird tension about it.

Just became a fan of this channel from this video alone. Very well done & accurate piece on Ice, Body Count & Cop Killer. That 1st BC album still hits hard today.

Awesome video, thanks! But there is a little mistake. Ice-T collaborated with Slayer on Judgment Night. But they did a medley of three songs of The Exploited.

Body Count is so under-appreciated for their influence in the hardcore scene and getting that sound into so many kids ears that usually would've never heard it because of cop killer specifically, and we all know, it only takes that 1 band that draws you and your hooked and just go deeper into the scenes. and I bet quite a few have been in bands we all love and call legends. edit- also mad respect to your pops for telling you the truth and be real with you. I remeber asking my dad about the same thing and being flat out lied to and he attempted to try and explain why cops don't do things like that, and while he was trying to explain he realized he couldn't so start yelling at me about some other BS. kind of funny to think about now, but not really

Great video, Finn! I still own the original Cop Killer CD shown in the first part of the video. And was lucky enough to see Ice at First Ave (Minneapolis) when Body Count played....then a small break and then Ice-T would come out and rap. Nothing else like it. Miss those days. (Yes, I'm 51)

This is fantastic. Thanks for making these

cop killer is an absolute banger

@unbroken1010

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The hip hop and rap industry are now Jesuit Satanist pawns

Body count is sick, I grew up watching law and order on basic cable at my best friend's lol

@unbroken1010

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That show makes the top ten for best fantasy series ever made

I have the original copy of COP KILLER on CD autographed by Ice-T and Ernie C. Got that album as a kid when I was 11 or 12.

Fantastic video. As somebody who was coming of age and finding rap music at the same time as yourself, I can relate to your backstory, and you absolutely nailed this. The perspective setting for what things were like back in 91/92 was spot on. It was one hell of a time to be into this music and the culture, and I’m forever grateful for it. It had an impact on my life that I still feel more than 30 years later..

This might be my favorite video you've done. I was alive and remember the chaos this song caused with people who didn't understand it. I definitely didn't understand it at the time, either. But it made me think, even as a kid, and was crucial in helping me realize that everyone's life experiences are different and valid. And how powerful music can be.

I am 43. I vividly remember the outrage over this track as well as the riot coverage( I'm from Rhode Island.) I had the cassette with the song but very rarely played it. I still enjoy Body Count as well. Ice- T is one of my favorite rapper/musicians. Always has been himself and stands on what he speaks. Great video as always, man. Keep up the great work!

I was at the first Lollapalooza too and was already a huge fan of Ice-T, so I knew Body Count. But 99% of the people in the stadium were only into alternative and just knew Ice-T as a rapper. So when he was next to take the stage, everyone headed up to the concessions, restrooms, etc. when The entire floor seating area was emptying out, so I shoved my way against the sea of people heading up the stairs. Then I strolled right to the front row, centre stage. I exchanged grins and nods with the few remaining fans in the know. 10 minutes passed. Then the sound of helicopters and police radios filled the stadium. And Ice-T ran on stage... I stared up as he stood right in front of me a couple of metres away. He did a few tracks off OG. The floor section was nearly deserted. Then... Gunfire (over the speakers). And Body Count stormed on stage. They started playing Body Count (the song). (In my mind) a collective gasp came from the concession area. Moments later, an avalanche of people came rushing down the stairs and onto the floor section. The floor was packed by the time Body Count launched into their 2nd song.

I saw Body Count at Louder Than Life they were fantastic.

I feel like if finn had a time machine he would use it to send all the zoomers back to like 1990 just to see how the world was and how it's changed

Great video! I always had law & order in my head when i thought about Ice-T but this was pretty eye opening. Thank you!

I saw Body Count for the Cop Killer tour in December of 1992 at L'Amour in Brooklyn, NY. It was Body Count, Exodus, DRI & Pro-Pain. Crazy show/lineup!

Body Counts Bloodlust was a great metal alblum

0:55 lmao the switch from "die pig die" into that cop nervously gulping is hilarious

I'm 24, I learned about Body Count in 8th grade from my Algebra teacher. I was into some sceney metalcore, Post Hard-core and nu metal. After that Body Count opened up my love of punk and Hard-core.

Holy shit I've never heard anything about that Judgement Night soundtrack. The line up looks so insane! Definitely about to go look into that. Thanks for shedding light on that record. Looks fucking awesome!