How I would write Metal with The 3 Chord (Minor-b2)

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This is a lesson taken from a Patreon series where I go deep into the sound of each chord of the key. This one is taken from "The 3 Chord" and showcases how useful the sound is for writing metal.
Intro (0:00)
Metal (0:35)
Part 1 - Scale Riffs (2:35)
Part 2 - Adding a Guitar Harmony (8:30)
Part 3 - Bigger Sound with Ambience (13:13)
Part 4 - Syncopated Stuff (19:06)
Metal Again (28:43)
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  • @LoGsounds
    @LoGsounds Жыл бұрын

    Hope you all enjoy the video and the approach. Feel free to leave your questions in the comment section. Also, the sound used in this video is the sound of The 3 chord in the key, a sound made of minor pentatonic, plus the b6 and b2. Most people will describe this sound with the "mode" name which would be "phrygian". If that makes sense to you, go for it. I personally do not use those terms.

  • @WitchPilled
    @WitchPilled Жыл бұрын

    Man the low gain + strat neck pickup sounds killer.

  • @tourdesource
    @tourdesource Жыл бұрын

    The mix of violence and sweet ambience in the bridge makes it sound like an army of angels. Not a sound you hear very often.

  • @glenngross6605
    @glenngross6605 Жыл бұрын

    Great teaching and awesome tone! Thank for embracing the sound of a strat neck pickup in a metal rhythm guitar context! This was really refreshing to hear!

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    single coil neck pickup sounds surprisingly good!

  • @CaptainChainsaw2
    @CaptainChainsaw2 Жыл бұрын

    Sounds awesome!

  • @FullMetalDMZ
    @FullMetalDMZ Жыл бұрын

    One of the best composition videos on the web, seriously dude, thank you for sharing!

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate it, hope you got some good stuff from my approach!

  • @dimerocks123
    @dimerocks123 Жыл бұрын

    Hey man, I've been watching your shorts for a little while now and you obviously know your shit. I'm looking for a bit of direction as I feel I've somewhat plateaued in my improvisation. My problems are with piecing all the theory together that I've learned in bits over the years. I've learned my intervals, have known the major scale across the fretboard for years, and understand how chords are constructed. I also have a decent grasp on "modes" and how they are laid out by interval in relation to the major scale (as in Dorian would be 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, 6, b7) My real problem is using all this stuff in my head on the fly while improvising. I find it difficult to keep my head around chord changes and where target notes are as the chords progress. How can I really commit all this to memory to the point where when a chord changes, I know my target notes and am also primed with the next chords targets in queue in my mind? I really struggle to hold it together and still have any sense of melody. I end up defaulting back to running scale shapes chasing my tail out of frustration. Any advice would be much appreciated 👍

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately not really a question that I can fully answer in a youtube comment (although I'll attempt), but I can give you some things that I think are mandatory. Let's get some hard facts out there first: 1.) Contrary to popular belief, scales do not make you sound good nor do they give you control over your playing. What actually gives you control over your playing is NOTES and how NOTES function over CHORDS. When we listen to music we aren't hearing scales, we are hearing notes and their interaction with the harmony/implied harmony. Of course scales have notes in them, but just because the notes are in the same scale doesn't mean they will all sound the same over the chord. 1 doesn't sound like 3 which doesn't sound like 6 which doesn't sound like 7, like 2, like b7, like #4, etc. Approaching scales without thinking about the individual notes would be like using random amounts of random spices in your cupboard while your cooking, just because they all happen to be on the same shelf. With this in mind you have to ask yourself, if you are improvising over a chord can you stop on any note you are playing and immediately call off the letter and function of that note? If you are playing over an Am chord and you stop on the 8th fret B string, can you quickly call out "G, b7"? If you can't that means you're relying on the scale to play the notes for you and you don't actually have control over what you are doing. I only bring this up because this describes probably 90% of guitar players I've encountered. 2.) Can you sing/hum every single melodic line/note that you play? If you are not/cannot that means that you aren't training your ears to hear these sounds. If your ears don't know what the sounds are, you will have to rely 100% on your eyes and brain to make choices as you change chords. If your ears know the sounds however, they will guide you through chord changes. If I'm playing over Am-Dm and I'm playing the 5th of Am (E), my ears tell me to move up a fret (to F) when the Dm arrives, because my ears know that will be the b3rd. Of course this doesn't happen immediately, but as you practice and teach your ears these moves, your ears will be your guide. Again, probably 60-70% of guitar players I've met have woefully underdeveloped ears due to relying on tabs their whole life. -A simple approach to target these problems would be to first of all, never think about scales and only think about chords/notes. Be able to highlight every chord tone of the chord you are thinking about, as well as sing those notes. If the chord tones are readily available, start to add in the most common non chord tones until you have a full palette of sounds to choose from. -ALWAYS know the unique color notes of the chords you are playing. Most of the time these unique sounds are entirely made from a single note. For example: Normal Major: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Dominant 7 (mixolydian): 1 2 3 4 5 6 b7 There is ONE note different between those two sounds. It is a catastrophic waste of time to practice those two sounds as separate scales, as all you need to do is target 7 for one of them and b7 for another. By thinking about and targeting that specific NOTE, you are unlocking the sound, without having to practice different scale shapes. Here's another: Normal Minor: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 Minor 6 (Dorian): 1 2 b3 4 5 6 b7 There is one note different between those two sounds. It is a catastrophic waste of time to practice those two sounds as separate scales, as all you need to do is target b6 for one of them and 6 for another. By thinking about and targeting that specific NOTE, you are unlocking the sound, without having to practice different scale shapes You need to always approach playing over changes from a CHORD and NOTE perspective and never a scale perspective. It is far more valuable to literally play ultra slow chord tones than try to run scales over everything. Again I'm only going off of your comment and I don't know exactly what you sound like, but in my experience these are the problems that MANY people suffer, because guitar is often taught incorrectly (imo). Hope that helps!

  • @steel_man666
    @steel_man666 Жыл бұрын

    I like the way you explain every single thing going on song..loved it I have become your huge fan since I saw you at first. I hope someday you'll come up with something very good album or songs like Guthrie govan and nick Johnson's.

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate it! If you haven't heard my group Galia Social, you can check it out here. It's not super guitar-y, but hopefully you enjoy it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aJ-Fwc6lj5izj9o.html

  • @kagenotatsumaki
    @kagenotatsumaki Жыл бұрын

    Idk if this is a badass Korn song or an Epic final boss theme for a Devil May Cry or Anime Dark Souls clone game but either way it's freaking SICK.

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll take any of those!

  • @JayDuuubb
    @JayDuuubb Жыл бұрын

    Giga Chad gives good lessons

  • @LinderToob
    @LinderToob Жыл бұрын

    Awesome track & tone!I would love to see more live heavy bands play with that cleaner sounding tone. And when the backing arrangements came in, I was like Woah okay yeah that’s cool! Love the swell. Mostly been playing keyboard, so I looked at mine in key of C and went to E and went “Oh yeah.. there IS a minor 2 & minor 6 in the 3 chord” Lol. I can appreciate thinking of things in those practical terms instead of the mode names. And as someone who likes certain metal, but has been listening to other genres, this is surprising and cool to see your appreciation for heavier sounds! These vids are great, thnx! 🎉

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comments, I was a fan of the tone as well. In regards to the title, I'm referring to that chord's unique sound. So: 5 chord = Maj b7 4 chord = Maj #4 2 chord = min 6 3 chord = min b2 7 chord = min 7 b5 (b2 as well of course) And obviously 1 = Maj, 6 = min. Do these sounds have mode names? Why yes they do. I personally don't use them because I think they are unnecessary. Do people get angry at me for not using them? Why yes they do haha. It's just my approach. Glad you liked the video!

  • @DaniSutarz
    @DaniSutarz Жыл бұрын

    Hell yes dude

  • @chrisnealey5180
    @chrisnealey5180 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder do you listen to much metal music?...Appreciate your vids and deep dives into these topics. A little while ago I wanted to practice chords in each scale degree and play what made them unique. Then I saw your interview with Chris Shetland and started watching your channel. Helps me learn. Thank you.

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    I listen to everything. My metal consumption isn't as much as other styles mostly because the genre usually doesn't have my favorite sounds, but there are a few standout bands for sure.

  • @IzZyRaWr
    @IzZyRaWr Жыл бұрын

    6:30 I didn't think it was a rip off at all! Just some tasty hertas. :)

  • @javisantiago1781
    @javisantiago1781 Жыл бұрын

    Do you have anything out here with a band? I'm curious how you guys sound.

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for asking, you can check out the group here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aJ-Fwc6lj5izj9o.html

  • @_Information_
    @_Information_ Жыл бұрын

    Dude.

  • @toddshepard3592
    @toddshepard3592 Жыл бұрын

    Would you move to Oklahoma and be in my band haha

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't know, Oklahoma's pretty cold compared to where I'm at!

  • @sixstringhans-tone5574
    @sixstringhans-tone5574 Жыл бұрын

    This is nothing like old metal, I’m thinkin from maiden to priest all the way up to Metallica & Pantera. An even the hair metal bands don’t sound like this. They all didn’t have all these way to many single noted riffs like yer playing. They have more bar chord riffs mainly in their songs an maybe one or two changes of single noted harmony riffs. I mean jeez ahh, AC/DC didn’t have hardly have single note riffs. An the drums are way to fast. An if there’s any bands that play that technical would be Van Halen or more of the instrumental guitarist like Vai or Satriani….So your not playing old school metal yer play the new metal of today. Well ya didn’t explain that very well then. An yer obviously not old enough to haven grown up in the days of old metal. An yer talkin way to fast explaining. It’s way to technical. Sorry, but it’s not even close to old school metal. This is a bad example. There’s way to much goin on in an example of writing a song even. Don’t mean to dog on ya like this an mean no disrespect an u seemed to be a good musicians. But I rather tell ya the truth an be honest. But then again what do I know…. I wanted to learn how to write a decent song. But whats decent to me might not sound decent to you. lol. An now in the middle of this video ya say it’s more what you like an that’s modern metal sound. Like slow chug an gallop & drive an groove in old metal. Now that I think about it I’m old an believe it or not I guess it’s got to have more feeling. Lol. Ah I’m old! Lol. PEACE!

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and the comment. Sorry you didn't like it!

  • @sixstringhans-tone5574

    @sixstringhans-tone5574

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LoGsounds ah, I was a lil to harsh. Doesn’t mean that there’s a lot of other people that obviously like it. I happen to be the guy that’s got an asshole, I mean an opinion. Lol

  • @LoGsounds

    @LoGsounds

    Жыл бұрын

    No problem with an opinion! To be fair I wasn't trying to write in the style of older metal, I was trying to write in the style of me, meaning what I like. When I referenced the "older style" of metal I was referring to how that music was arranged (meaning what instruments were being used), not necessarily the exact riffs/notes. The very beginning of the tune in this video is just guitar-bass-drums, a sound many of those classic bands use in their recordings (master of puppets as an example). This contrasts with the later portion of the tune that adds in more modern elements such as background ambience, more involved rhythms, different harmony, and all of the other things I talk about in the video.

  • @sixstringhans-tone5574

    @sixstringhans-tone5574

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LoGsounds Yes, I agree. I had just mistaken what you had said in the beginning. I apologize. But what you were writing was very technical to me, cuz I don’t have a clue about song writing, I would just play what sound right or sounds like it fits to me. Plus next time I’ll put my helmet on before I watch another video of yours! lol. PEACE!

  • @ilovetoo7009
    @ilovetoo7009 Жыл бұрын

    HOW ARE YOU NOT A SUB MILLIONAIRE!?

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