Note: For those who’ve seen the individual videos already, here’s what’s new: Brand new introduction for the series, re-edited in quite a few places to improve quality (especially the first few videos when ya boi didn’t know how to keep a consistent aspect ratio) and to make it work as one continuous video, use of higher quality clips as well as additional joke edits, and the all-new ending credits sequence. See if you can spot all the changes! This should go without saying but a few things in here are now dated (GT Sophy, engine swaps, etc) but I still think it’s important to remember that at a certain point in time this was the exact situation for players in GT7 and overall my points are still relevant. I don’t know why I’m even mentioning this because I’ll still get comments about it anyway. Bruh.

@BakuGone

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for putting the effort in, not just on this series, but on improving your craft. If only Polyphony would do the same.

@Tornado2409

11 ай бұрын

Bro created an entire saga Respect

@gearmeister

11 ай бұрын

Well, it's your fault that I've got maybe 50 550pp cars so I can do the High Speed Ring Clubman Cup + with as many different cars as possible. It's quite fun & I'm totally hooked... screw the legend cars (I've got most of them anyway) 😅

@gearmeister

11 ай бұрын

An idea for either an upcoming video or 2 videos would be 1. The penalty system 2. BOP.. or should I say, Polyphony's fantasy spin on it... LOL 😂

@nickklavdianos5136

11 ай бұрын

GT Sophy hasn't solved anything. It's just particular races each week that have it. The actual game AI is still equally trash.

I love realistic economies in games so i can experience being poor not only in real life but in my empty game too

@cosmagabriela236

7 ай бұрын

i love buying the most expensive car ingame while playing on low-medium graphics. Gives me a feeling of accomplishment and makes me proud that i've spent that time to get the car instead of going to work to buy a better computer. Or a real car instead of a bicycle.

@Andre_Gouveia

5 ай бұрын

hahahahhaha

@dazeen9591

5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't actually mind being poor in a racing game if the game was actually realistic. But unfortunately these games are never realistic despite being "racing simulators".

@Zuleva_Official

5 ай бұрын

There is no better feeling, I can already taste burnt oil

@TheAlison1456

5 ай бұрын

if it was realistic in any way then it would actually be challenging and provide an entertaining sense of accomplishment

That title could perfectly explain my feelings for forza. Its awful that two of the biggest competing franchises in this genre have both fallen to a similar state.

@Mikauo_Xblade

11 ай бұрын

when you say forza do you mean motorsport? ive never played any forza and to me the horizon games look fun. Whats your opinion?

@BakuGone

11 ай бұрын

@@Mikauo_Xblade looks don't tell you the story. Previous forza games had a lot of features that are missing from modern installments.

@existentialselkath1264

11 ай бұрын

@@Mikauo_Xblade both. Horizon 1 was amazing but increasingly went further and further to the hypercasual market, compromising any depth. Personally, not a fan of where horizon decided to go, but it's where the audience was so I can't blame them, though there are still genuine problems that go beyond their target audience. Problem is that motorsport saw the success of horizon and tried to follow it. The hyper casual market isn't as interested in track racers. They sacrificed the depth of motorsport 4 and ignored their existing audience to appeal to one that didn't want them.

@uglyenoughtobewise

11 ай бұрын

I don't think they've fallen to a similar state, their problems are different, and furthermore, the problems of Forza Motorsport - some of which they seem to be aware of, although it remains to be seen if they will be addressed - are not the same as the problems of Forza Horizon (personally, I didn't have any with FH4, which I thought was a big improvement on FH3, but I haven't touched FH5 yet).

@TankSlappr

11 ай бұрын

The entire racing game genre is in the dark ages right now. There haven't been any groundbreaking racing games released in The last 5 years imo. Sim racing is the only thing with any passion behind it in the modern racing game landscape and I'm just not into sim racing as much as casual racing.

It's so incredibly confusing how they're able to make *everything* you do feel completely pointless

@kanehood3478

10 ай бұрын

I have no idea how they look at previous games and remove everything that was great and keep the trash and add the trash to the next game and say it’s the good old GT that everybody wants, at this point this is all about GT sport online with a few races tacked on, if all the tracks and cars have been made how hard would it really be to listen to us in the community and add a BUNCH of DIFFERENT championships for us to race with equal payouts so that the grind isn’t so damn boring doing the same 3 races over and over to gain 20million is the worst thing imaginable!! if my maths is correct it will take about 13hours of the same 30min race without breaks and finishing at the 30min mark earning the most per min of 825k to get 1 car that I can’t use in any event, what’s the point??? Seriously what is the point, it’s not like the cars add any value to my collectors club either as it caps at lv 50!!!! I have played all of the GT games including the spin off tourist trophy and unless it drastically changes via updates I won’t be returning to the franchise, the golden era of GT is sadly gone and dosent look like it’s coming back RIP GT

@vvoof2601

9 ай бұрын

LOL they really did.

@sleazymeezy

7 ай бұрын

Speak for yourself? I got a version of every street gtr, a couple 180sx a few sileightys, a version of every z, two of the new z and love taking them to Mt panorama at the meeting spot and just blasting lap times with them

@grahamkelly8662

5 ай бұрын

I hated this game. Even in vr. It’s utter shit. Dirt rally pisses all over gt7. I don’t know what makes me more annoyed, me hating the game or the fact that everyone else loves this game. Like how can anyone ever pick boring gt7 over the thrilling dirt rally? Sorry if I sound ignorant but gt7 is objectively BAD! Most of the game is licensing tests and silky chores.

@tothemax0729

5 ай бұрын

Do you play on a remote or with wheel and pedals?​@@grahamkelly8662

You're exactly what the GT community needs mate! Polyphony should be taking notes.

@truckercowboyed2638

11 ай бұрын

You ever considered the community is also the problem with constant complaints and never satisfied because they can't be patient, nothing good happens overnight or even in one year...... PD has listened by the way but it's impossible to please a community that doesn't even know what they want GT 7 to be,

@danielstokker

11 ай бұрын

No we dont need another wave of controversy splitting the community just to boost some youtubers vieuws

@leomarasciuloYT

11 ай бұрын

@@truckercowboyed2638 it’s been actually 10 years since they began developing GT7, they could and should have done better from day 1.

@CLOYO

11 ай бұрын

@@truckercowboyed2638 What about bringing out a game that just works with the philosophy you told people you would? - Would be a first, I know, but still. Disappointing.

@C_Raccoon23

11 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@truckercowboyed2638 What universe do you live in where it’s acceptable for a $60, AAA game to take over a year’s worth of updates before it’s finally decent? And I’d argue a lot of people know exactly what they wanted GT7 to be, considering it was marketed as a return to the series’ roots. But to this day, it still doesn’t do a good job of that. The short and poorly designed single-player that doesn’t even hold a candle to GT3’s or GT4’s is one of the biggest examples.

I think the way they ruined car collecting has gotta be my biggest complaint. It's like they concentrated way too much on car values and trying to replicate the real world car market, and completely forgot about why people enjoy collecting cars in games in the first place. We don't do it because we enjoy trying to collect a ton of virtual currency and spend it, we do it because we want to check out and drive a wide variety of cars. When lots of cars are basically locked behind unobtainable goals, it really ruins our ability to enjoy what the game could have to offer.

@sleazymeezy

7 ай бұрын

Having to spend over 1 mill per collected level really makes me sad. Like bro, why do I have to be lvl 50 to do an engine swap?!

If GT7 was named correctly for what it is (GT Sport 2 or GT Sport A-Spec) then I don't believe the game would receive so much hate. It was marketed as a nostalgia next-gen built from the ground up game. It's been far from any of this 😔

@purwantiallan5089

10 ай бұрын

Even Yohane Tsushima also love GT1 to 5.

@vvoof2601

9 ай бұрын

Exactly! Because it essentially is GT sport 2 (with somehow less SP events than sport).

@StreetDrilla

8 ай бұрын

​@@purwantiallan5089 5 is worse than FM4 and GT6

@SamaraxMorgan26

7 ай бұрын

Just like Forza. This "reboot but not really" gimmick sucks, it's never worked, and I don't understand why companies still try it.

@OldSilentHill8

3 ай бұрын

Man, your comment aged bad.

I'M LOSING MY FAVOURITE GAME YOU'RE LOSING YOUR MIND AGAIN I'M LOSING MY BABY, LOSING MY FAVOURITE GAME

@vh99_

11 ай бұрын

Back when Gran Turismo still was the best Racing Game available 🙌

@aaryeshg.6526

11 ай бұрын

Ahh yes that song from GT2. 👌

@mohnnadmercedes8246

11 ай бұрын

😔💔💔💔💔💔

@raposonanquim7987

11 ай бұрын

PWAM PWARAAAM PWAM PWARAAAM

@JohnSmith-mk5jt

11 ай бұрын

I ONLY KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR ANOTHER YOU SO I COULD LOVE YOU MORE I REALLY THOUGHT THAT I COULD TAKE YOU THERE BUT MY EXPERIMENT'S NOT GETTING US ANYWHERE

For a man who loves staring at the possible future, Kaz sure is short sighted

@standard-carrier-wo-chan

8 ай бұрын

When you're always focused on the ant in the room, you can't see the elephant it was standing on.

@nevvanclarke9225

8 ай бұрын

It's because he's Japanese and we know what happened to Japan in the street and unfortunately what makes them is arrogant. They don't care and I do things their own way. They don't listen to anyone because they don't trust anyone and when you don't trust other people you will do things your way, no matter how faulty it is. It is in their culture.

@MikoyanGurevichMiG21

8 ай бұрын

@@nevvanclarke9225 Because the other major Japanese auteur in the gaming industry on the same tier as Kaz.. is none other than Hideo Kojima. The only fact that seperates them in their current stage now is that at least Polyphony or Sony don't have any major drama with Kaz yet.

@pedinhuh16

7 ай бұрын

​@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21This may be happening as soon as GT8 is released and fails commercially because it repeats the same mistakes of GT7. The only reason why the suits maintains good relationship with these producers is because they can make a product that is very lucrative for them. And while MGSV didn't flopped commercially, it was still not good and successful as the other main releases on the Metal Gear franchise(specially MGS 3).

@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526

7 ай бұрын

@@pedinhuh16 I feel your pain, seems the "lucky" #7 games were not great for Forza Or GT. I'm Just glad our #8 is finally here and so worth the wait...

I wish PD put more effort into GT7 than you into this one single video You truly deserve all gold licenses in Coffe Breaks

@mrdorifto

11 ай бұрын

😂😂

@purwantiallan5089

10 ай бұрын

​@@mrdoriftoagreed.

@seltortatkin3853

7 ай бұрын

Oh man... All Gold in Coffee Breaks? That's high praise. I approve.

The most baffling thing is that, they HAVE the tools to make this the best GT game ever! Adding a proper career mode is a start, and just imagine the endurance races with real time day/night cycle and weather changes.

@ZondaMane

5 ай бұрын

they have 1 race in the whole game that does that, the 1 hr on spa, they 100% didnt care about single player.

Everyone at Polyphony & those at Sony involved with GT7 game development should be forced to sit & watch this & then explain WHAT HAPPENED! Hats off to you my friend for this & all your great videos

@noahletwinski6955

11 ай бұрын

Preferably with Gordon Ramsay telling them off and cursing at them whenever they look away.

@gearmeister

11 ай бұрын

@@noahletwinski6955 That would be perfect 👌

@gearmeister

11 ай бұрын

@@noahletwinski6955 When you think about it, these comments, especially yours, could be a great meme video for Rolfwaffle to create, you know, show some people sitting around a table then cut to Kaz, then Gordon Ramsey, etc etc

@richardbrown2334

5 ай бұрын

I can't imagine someone involved in the team or someone who knows the team hasn't seen the video with 600K views titled Gran Turismo. I haven't personally bought the game, but was a huge fan of GT3 and GT4. Given the restrictions I've seen here, I won't be buying it.

@TheIrland09

3 ай бұрын

They won't give a shit even if they watch this video because unfortunately all they care about is money and people will buy these games no matter what.

Ever since the algorithm showed me this channel, day after day i am amazed that you are not like, a 100k plus content creator. these are genuinely amazing videos

@niismo.

11 ай бұрын

I second this!

@danielstokker

11 ай бұрын

Because he spreads bullshit aswell its simple not everybody sees it the same way and this guy is in part on the wrong parh

@zuminlair92cp

10 ай бұрын

I think that might be KZread algorithm don't like negative point side of view.

@purwantiallan5089

10 ай бұрын

​@@niismo.i fourth this zura.

All this game needed was a proper fun career mode.

I love how I can watch literally hours of your rants against GT issues and agree with EVERY SINGLE ONE of them

@danielstokker

11 ай бұрын

Another zombie for the hoard

@leomarasciuloYT

11 ай бұрын

@@danielstokker beware or I’ll eat your brain

@purwantiallan5089

10 ай бұрын

​@@danielstokkermore like dead rising zombies.

@Rpgreat

Ай бұрын

@@danielstokker LOL Sony is actually using comment bots XD

Especially the point towards the end about Kaz wanting to add suvs to the game rings true to me. I remember when in one update to GT Sport a Ford F150 Raptor was added and the damn thing would start appearing in races among proper sports cars and just keeping up with them. That completely broke my immersion.

@marcusclarkson2657

11 ай бұрын

Pickup trucks, MINIVANS!!???? SUVs... I can also do without drifting events and if they aren't going to flesh out rallying they need to drop it.

@pedinhuh16

7 ай бұрын

Rally in Gran Turismo was always a joke ever since GT 3. I mean seriously, CIRCUIT tracks for rally races?? Even better: Those rally tracks even got PIT STOPS for some reason 😂 Don't even get me started on the lack of damage for those cars because the danger of getting your rally car damaged and beyond being able to repair it for the next stage is all that Rally is about... That just tells me that they don't even know what rally is to begin with or they just don't give a fuck about it either way.

@Cloaker86

7 ай бұрын

the ford f150 atleast has a purpose, it could be used in the f150 raptor survival event and it was a decent dirt car there are only 2 SUVs i can imagine aking any sense in GT are the ford bronco and the jeep wrangler, maybe just maybe the AMG G-Wagon

GT4 is my favorite. So much awesome content all throughout. The challenges, license tests, coffee breaks, endurance races, special events, manufacturer specific races, and the beginner and expert leagues. There’s unique parts with the tuner specific brands, including full models, so many cool cars, great physics, and full fledged tuning. It’s just the best!

>Got home from work >New video uploaded >It’s 3 hours long >Save it for tomorrow Keep up the great work! Can’t wait to watch

The world of single player in GT7 looks like the world of some random royal prince that wants to race and all of its subjects hes racing with wants him to win at all cost.

Seriously, this channel is a hidden freaking gem. Don't stop making creating videos. You're a natural storyteller.

@purwantiallan5089

10 ай бұрын

Yep. Here after SIFAS closed down.

About the AI, If I remember correctly Kaz actually wanted to ditch single player for a long time. I believe Sony forces them to have something otherwise noone would buy it, and at best PD half-asses it, and at worst they actively sabotage it. The artificial pace slowing clock is a hint I believe. Like, you programmed it to be better than this, why would you deliberately rubberband it to go slower and extend the grid to make it at best underwhelming and at worst encouraging you to turn your Gr. 3 to a lawnmower.

@RobertoFornaro

11 ай бұрын

PS: This would also explain the whole mess the career structure is now, it's not like PD couldn't design a better one, they either don't care or they are sabotaging it directly, and by stating in the marketing "GT IS BACK" probably they want to alienate newer customers to the concept and sweep a career mode under the rug. I know, it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I can't shake off this thought.

@marcusclarkson2657

11 ай бұрын

Yes he wants SP gone. That's work . He wants a " make your own fun " tech showcase that looks " like the real thing " when viewed over the shoulder by those who don't play games but have deep pockets and real supercars and super licenses.

@RobertoFornaro

11 ай бұрын

@@marcusclarkson2657 I think Kaz suffers from what I call the Nomura syndrome, he has a lot of ambitions and great ideas but definitely needs someone to keep him in check and with feet on the ground

@BknMoonStudios

11 ай бұрын

@@RobertoFornaro Reminder that Nomura wanted to turn Final Fantasy XV into a musical, years into development, after he went to see the Les Miserables movie. 🤣

@RobertoFornaro

11 ай бұрын

@@BknMoonStudios Just googled it, thanks dear god someone stopped him

The Real Driving Simulator has turned into The Mediocre Racing Simulator.

@BknMoonStudios

11 ай бұрын

The Real Driving Insane Simulator

@sdsdecoy

11 ай бұрын

@@BknMoonStudios GT6 was more insane, it had the track path editor. I had a Tomahawk that did 1849 mph thanks to breaking it on a certain track

@purwantiallan5089

10 ай бұрын

​@@BknMoonStudiosfor me "THE REAL PATHETIC SIMULATOR" and "THE REAL ONLINE ONLY SIMULATOR".

@purwantiallan5089

10 ай бұрын

​@@sdsdecoyGran Turismo 6 in my opinion is the last good GRAN TURISMO. The overall game depth is still there and also brought back all 34 Missions from GT4 in GT6 SPEC II MOD.

@akioasakura3624

9 ай бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089GT6 is the best

Damn, I should have watched this before I bought my PS5 and GT7. I could have saved ~600€.

Unbelievably great video about GT7 I have similar back story growing up liking cars due to GT3/4 and GT7 does feel so detached from what made Gran Turismo so special :(

@purwantiallan5089

10 ай бұрын

GT7 and Forza Motorsport 8 seemingly worked together on creating missteps. And this is the result.

Predetermined roulette tickets are very clever, because this way you can’t just reload a savefile till you get what you want Although what it is predetermined to pick should be more random than 2% for a car

The most infuriating thing is that a lot of these issues are prevalent for no literal reason. They don't even make sense in the context of realism OR being catered to multiplayer.

This series has been incredible. Your critique on Gran Turismo 7 highlights my gripes on modern racing games as a whole; they always have one downside that ruins the game for me. It is honestly so depressing to see AAA developers in the racing genre to not even try to make a good racing game anymore. It's just "pHySiCs AnD gRaPhIcS" and that's it. This is insulting. Ever since I played Gran Turismo 4 when I was 8-years-old, it capture me into the world of cars and video games. Learning different car brands and their nationality, how cars work and how to drive them. It all return back to Gran Turismo 4. If it wasn't for GT4, I wouldn't be playing video games right now, but seeing the industry and their communities nowadays, I'm not even sure I would want to continue playing games. ==OFFTOPIC== I've always dreamt of making my own racing game; one that combines many features from many fan favourites into one package. I've been debating that if I can do this, but after seeing the state of the racing genre, I figure I might as well as do it now. Yours, Raycevick's, Kacey's and Ultra Violet's critiques on modern racing games motivates me to try out this project. I know it will be a daunting task, but I will try to make this dream a reality. Even if it takes me months, years or even a decade, I will finish my dream game. --Sorry if this comes off as cringy--

@nynameisnyan20

10 ай бұрын

i too am a long time fan of gt4 and play it emulated when i get that itch. and I honestly belive that you can do it, it will take time and patince but i feel if you do like a gofundme or a kickstarter and advertise it you can make bank on your passion. because realisticly you have other things going on behind the scenes no one knows aside from you, but it would be a good thing to start on which engine you wanna use for the project then either get premade textures or make your own from scratch

@Zhawn7

10 ай бұрын

​ @nynameisnyan20 Thank you so much for the reply. As for the game, my main issue is the physics model. I have been debating whenever to make one from scratch or use one that is premade. I'm not planning to make a simulator since we already have many of those; more like an arcade circuit racer similar to Race Driver: GRID. Besides the physics, most of the concepts are ready so I'm ready for development, except for the story (Yes, my game will have a story mode. A bit too ambitious, but doable).

@purwantiallan5089

10 ай бұрын

​@@nynameisnyan20GT1 to 4 are still legendary in 2023.

I completely agree and it breaks my heart and yet I still play it every night and enjoy it lol

@Frankenslide

11 ай бұрын

Same lmao

@maxsanchez764

11 ай бұрын

Nah I still play GT sport lmao

@purwantiallan5089

10 ай бұрын

​@@maxsanchez764for me GT1 to 6. Still better than GT SPORT and 7.

@404TVfr

9 ай бұрын

You're brainwashed then

@TheIrland09

3 ай бұрын

Operant conditioning.

nice to see the full compilation of all the videos together its one of the only good series that i've followed in a long time, looking forward to see whats coming next

God yes... a 3hr video vindicating my thoughts on GT7 while I play GT6 Spec II :) You should try it, it's GT6 with seasonals, GT4 missions, and a ton of events from the older games added. So much I feel like its enough entertainment until PD pulls their finger out and starts listening

@23GreyFox

11 ай бұрын

Sounds like a mod for emulator.

@jordonpollock1550

11 ай бұрын

@@23GreyFox I'm playing on real hardware

@23GreyFox

11 ай бұрын

@@jordonpollock1550 I will not mod my PS3 for that.

@xenotone3284

11 ай бұрын

@@23GreyFox Last I checked GT6 can't be emulated yet, at least not well.

@Frankenslide

11 ай бұрын

If only it supported direct drive wheels lol I can barely play GT with a controller anymore

The Clubman Cup are what the AI and races in solo should be... - They are the ONLY races that offer a real potential challenge. (I won them all first try except the Mini, and each one had me really working to nail my laps and passes)

@gearmeister

11 ай бұрын

Clubman Cup + is my favorite, I can't wait until all of the AI is replaced with all Sophy & that would be totally amazing... I figured out how to make her mad & she's a typical woman 👩 😂😂😂

I love the gran turismo series. You were right about some of the points in the video about wanting to be wrong about the future of GT - wanting to be proven wrong etc. The recent change in allowing Engine swaps and the ultimate tuning shop is a small grain of change that reduces the toxicity of the spins and makes the game better. It’s a heavy dose of copium but I do think PD just might have realised the colossal direction change required, at the very least they know they can’t do this again. Great Video so far! Love the long form content!

@marcusclarkson2657

11 ай бұрын

I still don't think they realize it. I think the hubris is strong, and they don't hold the players in any sort of high regard. They tricked us in the beginning and personally I don't like to be bamboozled like that and it ain't been made up for yet. Have owned every console GT and this one is a farce.

@EmoDKTsuchiya

11 ай бұрын

Welcome to modern gaming

@mfbigboy5933

11 ай бұрын

If they could fix the economy I'd be pretty happy with the game tbh but they make you grind for hours which kills the little bit of happenisnes you can have during driving but also where all the cars at?

@marcusclarkson2657

11 ай бұрын

@@mfbigboy5933 the dam CARS where are they??? The manufacturers that PD has LONG STANDING relationships with Ferrari but no 488, no FXX, no 599, no 812....Aston Martin but no Valkyrie, McLaren and no 720, no Senna....cars like Viper ACR that were in the games BEFORE are gone, the Courages are gone, BMW LMR, the Pugeots like the 908, SO many CURRENT cars not on the roster. And not getting into missing courses, some originals that require no scanning or licensing like Amalfi and Grindelwald, and others like Matterhorn, I mean WTF

Gt2 was hands down the best driving experience as far as the selection and what's compatible with different events

holy fuck for a moment i thought this was a brand new video, i thought you lost it lmao

How to fix Gran Turismo 7 (and how it should have been launched). Take what there already is, add a few more high credit races, give you more freedom with the opening car choice, and change the single player. The game should have had standard championships like those in the previous GT games, and add the menu books as an additional side objective that you can do if you want an easier time, or are just learning how GT works. The dealerships should change the old way, after each event, and the cars should have a standard price. They should not ever reach up to 20,000,000, it's ridiculous, and any cars that are incredibly expensive should have their own races.

@RokkumanZero23

11 ай бұрын

And also fix car invitation rewards to make them easier to obtain by certain collector level and not rely on gacha roulette RNG, or just remove the car invite mechanics at all, it gets repetitive when you have to wait another day and grind 26.8 miles per hour every day and you still don't get an invitation. I keep getting the same brand invites on cars I've already obtained like Bugatti and Pagani. I wanted a Porsche and Ferrari but never got one. Especially we noticed after recent new car updates monthly the devs knew they never wanted to add another Invitation-only car because it was not well received by fans. Even the latest update finally gave us the option to purchase engine swaps and ultimate parts (though you need to reach a certain collector level) rather than relying on gacha roulette RNG's which is pretty stupid honestly

@StayFrostee_

11 ай бұрын

@@RokkumanZero23 I keep getting Citroen and Ferrari invitations, and I already have all of the Ferraris and the single Citroen you can buy. I just want the Porsche.

I haven't lost it, I just dove back into gt1 jp '97 emulated at 60fps with boosted res, and widescreen option and it's pure joy to relive this gem

I watched the whole thing while doing license test in GT4. Stopped playing Gran Turismo at 5 and from the looks of things I made a smart call.

@osimos

10 ай бұрын

GT5 was the beginning of the downfall

3:12:30 "I think a game which functions as a virtual car museum, is probably what they're aiming for. So why not lean into that more?" That got me thinking. Instead of it being some random cafe the player is taking pretty pictures of cars for. (At the expense of their own wallet, no less.) What if the game framed the player as the co-owner of an automotive museum? (Alongside a character who helps to guide new players.) And you race for the sake of promoting the museum. And instead of the linear menu books that straight up give you the cars needed by just playing specific events tied to them. All to just take a picture of them... The museum would of course want cars to put up on display. And so like the menu books, you'd have a set of cars to get ahold of. Except you would have multiple of these sets available at any given time, and how you acquire the needed cars is up to you. Wether that is buying them from a dealer, winning them as a price car, or even going to an auction for rare cars. Some of these sets could also just have requirements that the cars have to fulfill, instead of specific cars. Such as "4 modern hot hatches" or "2 hyper cars". And as you complete these sets, the museum "levels up", and gives you access to new sets to complete for the museum. As well as extra rewards, such as money, a price car, etc. And completing a lot of sets that involve specific manufacturers, could also be how you unlock their invites. If one were to have that mechanic in the game still. One could even have a set with no restrictions, were a player can show off some of their cars to other players when they look at one's profile/museum. Then near the end of the campaign, there could even be a large championship that would be held by the museum. Like a final challenge! I think this would be a lot more fun and engaging for the players. Since they would have a ton more choice about how to go through the game's campaign. And without changing that whole "virtual car museum" idea that GT's director seemed so focused on for GT7. Because the game would straight up be about a car museum, and how that affects the reason for the player to go through the game's various races. This of course doesn't touch the ai, the fact a lot of cars are pointless within the game, the lack of event variety. But when it comes to the campaign's basis, this honestly sounds much more interesting and fun, than just grinding through menu books and watching cutscenes were character's I don't care about ramble on and on about history... Also I have never played any GT before. I used to be much more of a Forza player, but then FH4 happened... But I still hope these ideas of mine still sound interesting to the GT community.

without watching the video yet... I thought this game wasn't 100% it, but i played it and had about 17.5M credits, so i could buy the cars that would come with an update. My 15 year old son decided it would be a great idea to spend all those credits on clapped out AMG's, Golfs and other stupid cars. I ended up with 15.154 credits left. and now, it is so incredible hard to get some money back it is no fun at all... The game is about driving unachievable dream cars, which you just can't achieve in-game either.

@mfbigboy5933

11 ай бұрын

I should get money for my dad lmao, it's so long and boring to get money just to run the same race over and over he doesn't buy any EXPENSIVE cars but I see why it takes forever!

@uscp2

11 ай бұрын

@@mfbigboy5933 I grew up with GT1,2 and 3. By the time 4 came out I didn’t game as much but I played all of ‘em. Non of them where as boring as GT7 (even sport got some sort of proper career mode) I have most of the cars that are relevant to me. 90’s and early 2000’s BMW’s and JDM icons, classic Le Mans racers and was steadily saving up for the mclaren F1. There are just not enough fun events to do with them that are worthwhile.

Suddenly i think that no one at Polyphony asked themselves during development of the game a simple question...: "Why?"

@hellomadet

8 ай бұрын

Microtransactions Son! If you don't see the connection between grind and the ability to skip it by buying credits with real money, then you have nothing to complain about the game's design.

@TheMrDemonized

8 ай бұрын

i dont think they are allowed

@sleazymeezy

7 ай бұрын

​@hellomadet while I agree with you that people will want to skip the grind, but more reasonable people will ask 'what's the point in the game if I just do that?' And that's where they really should have asked "why?"

Not even an hour into this it's utterly hilarious how GT7 is built

when you discussed the feeling of your first gt car, I felt that. I just started playing gt2. picked a Toyota Celica. I just know that car is gonna be special to me forever

1:53:08 "Ambient music doesn't work well in a racing game." *cries in NFS Undercover garage soundtrack* (aka one of the few good things about that game)

@lotuwei

9 ай бұрын

and don't forget Static by Mick Gordon (Need for Speed World)

I don't know why, but most fun in multiplayer for me were shuffle races from GT5. God, I miss them so much, so many random cars to drive, total chaos in lobbies, so much fun, unlike the "real-life racing" that is Sports mode. I miss that kind of fun modes in racing games overall.

@mionellessi3086

10 ай бұрын

I did shuffle races every day. The cars were really balanced.

I grew up on GT5 then moved to GT6 when I was collecting ps3 games years later then moved on to sport and my experience was amazing, GT7 feels like a mental flashbang to all of those memories and feels like logging on to work after I’ve gotten done with my actual job for the day

3 and a half hours absolutely OBLITERATING Polyphony

I think I could blame microtransaction focusing on just about every complaint you and I have with GT7. Also this is a fantastic video. "Well said", as it were.

@marcusclarkson2657

11 ай бұрын

Right. The entire game is made to frustrate us into breaking down for MTs. Everything about it from upgrade costs, to car prices, to race lengths, to invitations, to roulette tickets and every nook and cranny in between. All to get you to " top up ".

@WallaWallazz

7 ай бұрын

That's exactly how I see it too. I'm surprised that @Roflwaffle16 dismisses that even after saying that it's a strong argument. My conspiracy theory is that they initially wanted to charge real money for roulette spins, but had to pivot due to regulatory push-back regarding gambling in video games. I don't have any proof, but it succinctly justifies all these anti-fun design decisions. Look at how they nerfed race payouts after the post-launch outcry. Did they do something similar with the roulette and invitation system? Idk how this can be so mismanaged. F*ck Kaz for being in charge of this franchise. It is a fantastic video.

Oh my god, as someone who has played Gran Turismo their entire lives and played a ton of each of the games, this whole video perfectly encapsulates all of the issues (and more) that Gran Turismo today suffers from and exactly how I feel about it and how frustrated I am. You even thought of the same ideas I’ve had for solving the issues and more, this is an amazing video. I don’t understand what is going through Polyphony heads because it honestly just seems like they forgot how to make a game that’s fun and engaging since Sport, and as well as the issues like AI that have plagued the series for like 15 years now

The fact that a Video like this was necessary says it all :( great Work man, Hope GT finds back someday, to its better form

You've gained a subscriber, this is an exceptionally well thought out and well made video. You've captured everything wrong with GT7 (and there's a lot) and also captured things I knew were bad but couldn't quite put my finger on or articulate. It's just a shame it will all fall on deaf ears and Polyphony will do absolutely nothing to look after its loyal fans.

This is probably the best KZread series I've ever watched. Awesome video!

Just when we thought it's over, he came back again ❤

i watched this 4 or 5 times now and my last playstation was the ps2 with gt4. Great video. great entertainment to have in the background for anything

They coulda done a few things that woulda been cool with some of the GT7 changes: - Add a special bonus questionaire to gain a credit bonus that race where the info is found in Cafe or something... but knowledge without application doesn't do much. - There is a TON of GT staple races that don't exist even after a year on the market in GT7. - Sport Mode I think should have to be unlocked, but it could have been unlocked differently with more thought. (Sportsmanship Test Races, open up Race A/B/C seperately with license. etc/etc) - The AI in solo mode is horrifying, as is the fact there is no Qual, no standing starts... - There is a TON of inconsistancies in the livery editor and custom parts, from defaulting your interior color based on paint change(new NSX in red), to 2 piece wheels that get fully painted as 1 unit, when in every other GT that wheel was clearly a polished lip even after altering color...buying the paints is a pain, because there is no filters, and finally wtf with carbon fiber.... serious. That's heinous that once you try to add carbon... no more special colors. You cannot make decal metallic. And there is no individual texture per decal... instead it decides that ALL your decals are that texture once changed. The windsheild banners are often not using the entire space and cut you off.

I feel the big thing that would fix a lot of problems would to bring back the manufacturer events. It felt cool to discover a certain brand and it's model and get THAT old, rare and unpurchasable car. It gives value to these random cars you win

Looks like my next GT game is buying GT3 again

Seen every video. Just watching the entire thing again for the watchtime so this guy can finally hit the algorhythm bingo

Great breakdown of GT 7 perfectly summed up my frustrations with it! It's sad seeing how many great single player centric games become so hollow.

i thought it has ended, and boom 3 HOURS OH MY GOD cant wait to watch all this

@r3uvsgaming

11 ай бұрын

it's just a compilation of a the previous videos into one, not exactly anything new

@Yamaha01.

11 ай бұрын

@@r3uvsgaming yeah actually i am dissapointed

I hope Assetto Corsa make a GT rival. They probably had the budget, as the original is one of the most popular games on steam, and they seem to know what the community wants (we'll see if AC2 can be easily moddable, by the way their talking it seems so) and the base they have currently is very good. All they would essentialy have to do is look at Gran Turismo 4 and tweak it around so it is more up to date and unique. Plus, the game would be availble on PC, XBox and Playstation, so eveyone would be able to play it.

@bartekkko

11 ай бұрын

I'm afraid it's not as simple as that. I have huge nostalgia for Gt4, but as a game I think it's severely flawed. Were kunos able and willing to make a gt competitor, they should take inspiration from a lot of other places as well, specifically codemasters. Like in grid autosport, if you weren't able to win every time, the game would start expecting you to just do well in the midfield, which is a much more interesting place to be than the front of the pack. 1nsane(I know, made by invictus, published by codies) had so many wacky game modes and maps that would be impossible to do in real life but still were tons of fun as a kid. F1 2021 gave you goals during practice sessions that would (in theory) better prepare you for the race and give you development bonuses for the team. And the seemingly hardest part, having decent AI is already close to completion, because AI in ACC, while hardly perfect, is still some of the better I've seen in a sim

@potatogirlcultist19

11 ай бұрын

@@bartekkko Yeah I agree. I said just straight up copy GT4 because it would be miles better than any of the offerings we have had in the last 5 years. To take inspiration from more old racing games, what about the snow from project cars 2? Whilst maybe not the most realistic, it was a fun and unique feature, as you could take an LMP1 car for a spin (figuratively and literally) in the snow. The whole team building idea from GRID and F1 2021 is also pretty intriguing. I never played GRID, but I did play a bit of F1 2021. I thought it was a pretty well implemented feature, and with the abilities to branch out to other categories of racing, it would be a good game mode. Whilst B-Spec mode imo is pretty boring, since it's more of a managment mode (although it was pretty fun as a kid because me and a friend just set the drivers out to be as aggresive as a polar bear on LSD), combined with the team mode, it allows you to train the drivers up to become the best. If I remember correctly Forza Motorsport 1 had a similar feature, but you actually trained the AI by driving yourself. Kind of like a Chat GPT driver, where it regurgetates information from your driving. The special events from Gran Turismo 5 were also pretty fun. One time you got NASCAR training from Jeff Gordon (ok AC doesn't have the budget to do that), I remember a race on Tuscan roads in a yellow Murcielago and it was so dark you had to turn the blue racing line on to just see where the track went.

Amazing work ! 🎯 Now doing a GT4 playtrough and GT7 is a vacuous shell of its former self (just like 6 and Sport). I think it's not only racing games, past 10 years everything in gaming is dumbed down, made fool proof with retardated HUD's and objective markers removing any sense of independent exploration and accomplishment, all aiming to appeal to the most common denominator thereby appealing to noone. And to draw that even broader, it's not only racing games or games in general, it's just also society as a whole, dumbed down, looking for a challenge is a vice nowadays.

I found it so frustrating to be handed cars hand over fist, and never being able to drive any one car for very long, because after two races it wouldn't be viable for the next set of races. I got absolutely no sense of progression from this game. You said it best when you likened it to an extended tutorial. That's all it was, and then when it was all over, it didn't seem like there was anything left to do. I love Sport mode, but I want a compelling single player too.

For me, the series peaked at 3, and it was a bumpy road afterwards. Some highs, some lows. GT3 is my favorite racing game of all time, and for good reason.

All Videos in 1 RoflWaffle: Im GENIOUS

Absolutely spot on, I fear for the future of this franchise.

Great video! I agree with pretty much everything you've said. The visuals in GT7 are absolutely stunning and PSVR2 is an amazing experience, but how the single player was so messed up is absolutely beyond me. I still play GT4 regularly, because it's just so much more enjoyable.

@osimos

10 ай бұрын

GT2 and GT4 both share the GOAT title

Fantastic content Roflwaffle, keep up the loved work

In my opinion Forza Motorsport 4 had the perfect balance of fun and prestige. The cars were celebrated beautifully but still came across as epic, rather than pretentious. Same goes for the music. The campaign, while not quite as deep as previous entries, was well paced and offered engine AND drivetrain swaps. Nothing was locked behind a weird wall and cars and money was constantly thrown at you.

GT4, for me, just has this sense of progression and collection that I've never felt in other games. Sure I might be grinding for money, but I'm also making progress while I grind. I'm building a connection to the cars I'm using. I'm seeing that percentage complete number slowly going up with every race and I feel like while I'm in for a long ride, it's going to be a lot of fun. I feel accomplished with every single race and upgrade. It's almost like an RPG. Maybe that's why I enjoy the Import Tuner Challenge game (and it's predecessors) as much as I do. The single player is a story. Not in the traditional sense, but in that you're making your own story. You and your car are embarking on this epic journey together. Racing games now days have lost their soul.

I own all the main games from when they were available in their respective day. I don't remember the game being available (in the uk) in 1997.. my memory says May 1998. My time playing gt7 is about as long as i can take watching this video, 10 to 15 mins (it's sunny outside rn) lol. However, unlike gt7, i will be back soon, popping in and out, as and when i have time. I really appreciate your reviews greatly but 3 and a half hours, man alive 😂 ✌

So much of this video perfectly explains what I appreciate and dislike immensely with GT7. Thank you for all your hard work putting this all together. 🏆

Like your video mate, havnt cared for gt in many years but the passion with which you speak about it is endearing. Good to see more young people making videos on games who seem to understand the basic design choices that make a good game. Listened in the background while I blasted around on free roam in AC

Quite possibly the best videos I've ever seen about Gran Turismo. It's getting very hard to stay optimistic about the future of this series!

Kaz saying that the cars reflect real-world prices is insane. An SLR McLaren is £280,000... not £600,000 lol

ngl roflwaffle, think you just saved my life because if it wasnt for this... i would have never known what to make my homework about

I absolutely love listening to these videos while working on my car. You should look into starting a podcast if you dont have one already. You have a great voice, incredible pacing and pronunciation, as well as just having interesting topics and good points to listen to. As well as including jokes makes this video so enjoyable.

I have been meaning to comment on this video for a while. This is a phenominal documentry on the downfall of Gran Turismo. Gran Turismo 4 was the 1st video game I have ever played (not racing game video game) and I still maintain that it is the greatest video game ever created. It was the leading racing game for its time and still has many of the values that Kaz still has Graphics, handling, immersion but more importantly it has one thing that is sadly lacking in alot of modern games Fun. I remember seeing the first clips of GT7 and feeling so hyped for it and I said to myself I will buy a PS5 purely for GT7. However Now that I know what I know I am holding off on that untill the game is in a much better State. I got Gt Sport literally just as GT7 came out so I didn't know there wasn't a single player campain in GT Sport until you mentioned it. So I didn't know the problems were so deep rooted until your video They clearly have so much tunnel vision in the direction of realism that that will sacrifice fun for the sake of making it real. The greatest example of this is the Track redesigns, Why they felt the need to bucher some of the most iconic Tracks I have no idea, whist I appreceated and admire the effort for realism it has made the game worst. Something I have also noticed is that Every problem in GT7 has a solution existing in the past games, the only reason I can think as to why they aren't used is because Kaz is so focused on looking forward that he does even remember these solutions (or at least doesn't acknowledge that they would fix the problems). Kaz and Polyphony need a major kick up the backside if they want to recreate the glory days of Gran Turismo 4 and I do think that people like you have given them that. I do have a very small amount of Hope for this game mainly because of what they did with the Engine swaps that was probably the first time they actually did exactly want we ask them for (without this I would have probably just ignored them if I had the game). It shows atleast some acknowagement of their flaws and hopefuly will lead to them realising the monumental change in direction needed to made this game good. Thank you for this documentry Roflwaffle you have expressed the vast majoraty of my and many other player of these games. PS your choice of music for the Credits could not have been better, a clear call back to GT1 but also reflects how we feel as players and how we want to give Polyphony a second chance. Well done. Really. Well done.

@Roflwaffle16

10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for this comment! I did read it all and am really glad to hear that there are people who feel as strongly about this, but I just want to say that you're the first person (or at least first to comment) who noticed that the credits were an homage to the original Japanese GT1 credits!

@anthonyschmidt-ellis6353

3 ай бұрын

@@Roflwaffle16 After careful consideration I have decieded to take the plunge and buy a PS5 and GT7. I just wanted to say thank you for your series you have left me know what I am in forwith GT7. Now that I know the truth I think I will enjoy the game for what it is. Any advise on how to play the game in the most enjoyable way possible.

to me, the greatest problem is that Kazunori isn't a game designer and isn't interested in gaming. This leads to a producer trying to be an auteur of something that barely works as a game and falls way short of being the all encompassing realizations of his ideas because no hardware, resources and time will be enough to reach that. I don't want to give up on the charm some of PD's decisions bring to the table and that are completely unique, but I would also welcome some more rational and logical design choices being made by people who understand gaming and motorsports (and, no, sorry, whoever designed Gran Turismo racing aspect doesn't and I would go as far as to say never went to a race)

Every single reason why I returned this game 30 days after purchase was covered in this video. Very well done.

I always giggle when you mention manufacture / brand invites and ferrari logo shows up 🤣

I watched pretty much the whole video yesterday and I finished it this morning, and I must say you did an amazing job! I just stumbled across your channel a couple days ago and I have seen a bunch of your videos already, they are very interesting to watch! I am a fm player at heart but I had a ps3 and gt5 back in the day(which I had a lot of fun with) and I bought a ps4 pro just to play gt7 (and spiderman lol) and I must say, I havent touched the game in months and I kinda regret getting it. I agree with every point you make! Starting at the back of the pack with the cars spread out over half the track is probably my biggest gripe with the single player, especially since I’m used to standing starts in forza. Also the menu books I got bored with, it just felt like a chore and I never was able to develop a relationship with the cars. I really want the new fm to be a good game, but my expectations are low so I won’t get dissapointed.

A bit late to the party, but here's my thoughts and experience with GT7 : I bought it almost day one, and I saw a lot of these problems since. Btw your videos are really well made and goes indeed into details I didn't think of at the time, so thank you for that. But what's truly unfortunate in my case is, regardless of the quality of GT7, this game still speaks to me, as an enthusiast. I mean, I almost played it on daily basis, even if I did pretty much the same things (Scapes mode, making liveries, driving around in freeroam lobbies, and so on). I could also talk about how my playtrought was quite full of small victories, like, when I saw that, with the new customisation system, the AE86 got an actual N2 body kit instead of a basic fender extension. Same story with the 2000 GT-R. It's a small detail, but I was really happy to see it. And I was really exited when they annouced the return of the R30 Skyline Super Silhouette, a car that I love, both in its stock form and its Gr.4 form. But It was no use. Even if I'm in a point of my life where my passion for cars (especially JDM) is pretty much unstoppable, slowly but surely I started to.... lose interest. As I said, as an enthusiast I could continue, but as a player, it was just no it overall and I even started to no like things that are quite good in the game, like missions. One of my many breaking points was Kaz interview, where of all of the thing he could say, claimed for example that the Chaser/JZX100 is not relevant anymore..... Yeah, it's not like this is one of the most influencial JDM car ever, got specific drift events in Japan dedicated to this one platform even to this day, and is featured in one of the most iconic moment of the D1 Grand Prix (also entirely sponsored by Gran Turismo in recent times btw.... And still no D1GP content to be see in the game....). It just feels like, somehow, Kaz doesn't even go out in his own country. Japan's cars enthusiasts scene is still thriving, you don't need to do a lot to understand that. And yet he came to this kind of conclusions...... Frankly, I still don't really understand. There was other factors to why I gave up (like, I recently got my first gaming PC for example), but nothing to wrote home about. As of now, I'm pretty much on same page as you. I will keep an eye on GT7, but in any case, I do think it's kind of too late and, as the meme said, "It's Joever". Forza Motorsports reboot is in the horizon but honestly, i'm not really hyped in any ways. Some aspects of the game looks already meh to me but, y'know, we'll see at lauch, as always. I will always love Gran Turismo, and I hope I will, one day, get my hand on the older titles, but for now.... I'm just gonna wait. But it's sad. Really Sad. So that's it, I probably forgot a lot of stuff that I wanted to wrote about, and I probably made some grammatical mistakes since i'm not a native english speaker X) But anyway, if anyone happen to read that, thank you very much. And thank you very much for your effort Roflwaffle, keep up the good work :)

yourr commentary about the sacrifice for teh sake of diminishing returns of photorealism are spot on as to why thanks to the cartoon shader in assetto cora's content manager i modded my assetto corsa to look like a hybrid between Automodelista and GT Legends , just slap on the a rightly graded pp filter and it looks gorgeous!

One manly tear to me eye. I started on gt4, and peaked on GT with GT5, and after that I got a pc, full wim, and now have multiple real cars. Shame what the game has turned into, but thanks for the memories.

Gt5 was my first granturismo after I played it I played the older ones and I still think gt5 is my favorite mostly because there's over 1000+ cars and I miss how you could fully upgrade some cars then make them a gt3 car

I hate it, but can't help but agree. Even the UI in GT Sport's VR mode being custom-made for *offline, single-player-only* use was left completely unchanged for competitive racing & multiplayer *exclusive* to the "full VR mode" in GT7 on the PSVR2, leaving out inherently critical race data (albeit data which wasn't necessary for offline, single-player time trials in GT Sport's VR mode). Yesterday I got an invitation from Porsche to buy a rare Carerra GT... *which I already own from a previous invitation.* So much of it just feels "mailed in" like this, like they lost interest or weren't inherently interested in making a full standalone game unique from GT Sport; GT7 is essentially GT Sport 2.0, but it's not necessarily better for it in spite of the upgrades.

Something Forza nailed was the paint and livery editing.

Marvelously made video. The more I watch the more I'm impressed. I'm new to your channel, so I'm eager to see whatever else you produce! Keep it up.

What an excellent video essay! I have so many thoughts about the game, i don't even know where to begin, so i guess i'm gonna start writing, and edit in later the things i forgot... *About the always online single player* In my opinion, PD's reasoning of "players might cheat their online ratings" is a load of bullshit. Honestly, who fucking cares? The moment a cheater enters an online race with actual pros, everybody will know what's up. Imagine Valve announce, that you can't use Steam offline anymore, because people using achievment unlockers for Team Fortress 2 is a huge issue for some reason. Not to mention, that with this decision, they just slapped an artificial expiration day to the game. If i remember correctly from the server outage days, the only thing you can do without a connection are custom races with a couple of pre-selected cars. You can't even access your own cars, so prepare to say goodbye to your 20 mil classic cars (and countless hours of grinding) once the next game comes out! *About the inflated car prices* PD seems to imply that they did this, because it's realistic. Which i mean, it is, but i don't play a driving sim, because i like to be reminded, that i'm never gonna afford my favorite cars from my childhood, because many of them are just investment assets in some rich guy's garage. If Polyphony wants to bring in some more realistic elements of car ownership, then i'm looking forward to dealing with insurance, property taxes, mandatory inspection, rust, and car theft in GT8...

Great video mate. You have made some great points in this video and i sincirely hope that some higher up in polyphony sees this and recognizes what needs to be done in future instalments (gran turismo 8 hopefully)

Thanks for showing me the music replay. I missed it although I invested 1500 hours in this game. 🙈 Thanks a lot for this brilliant video!

Lack of career Poor A.I Need more tracks (Silverstone, long beach, Singapore etc) No bonnet view Mediocre and small car packs Boring racing Grinding for money Fixed roulette prizes Also needs real dust, dirt, rain effects that appear on the car, track and windscreen.

@osimos

10 ай бұрын

Plus MTS and FORCED Internet!!!

@xXVibrantSnowXx

9 ай бұрын

& ridiculously car prices that takes ages to buy, prices needs reducing, or just give us more ways to earn bigger rewards quicker

It’s May 2024 and nothing really changed. This video will probably (and sadly) remain correct for the lifecycle of GT7.

yes, this is the ultimate breakdown video of Gran Turismo 7. Many sincere thanks for this from me. Eternally grateful for the GT game series and for this channel.

I've Been Here Since GT1 and honestly my heart was broken when I played GT7.

That realistic driving, where better tires are making car more snappy and touching brakes sends my WRX flying sideways? Neither my M235i in xDrive nor my civil (means 3x open differential) Legacy were showing such symptom in RL.

I will make it simple.... The suspension tuning makes the front tires lock and not turn in a sharp corner or in angle, and lobby servers are extremely laggy and not reliable leading to eventually game crashing like a cheap game from PC

Keep up the work best critique ive seen for a game hoping PD is listening like with the swaps

I popped in GT1 again and played for an hour or so and its still soo much fun and all the dealer songs are absolute fire.

Great job elaborating on all the issues with the game.