What would YOU do with K♥ K♣ on the river? Your Stack (UTG): $118,800 Their Stack (BTN): $201,800 Pot: $7,000 Board: T♣ 6♥ 5♣ A♥ J♣ You check, BTN bets $4,000 A) Fold B) Call C) Raise to … ?

@edb7742

2 жыл бұрын

B) Call

@cedriclenners3737

2 жыл бұрын

B/call. If he has the As or better, gg.

@brad9284

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty easy call 🤙 based on how it played and especially against a loosey goosy 🐠

@Samurai31631

2 жыл бұрын

Call. If you raise, you only get called by better. Plus (if the cards are accurate) you have the king of clubs.

@lewjg2933

2 жыл бұрын

When this Alan guy checks the turn he is basically telling Phil he doesn’t have an ace so IMO he has a marginal made hand or a draw but if he had a flush draw most top players are probably going to bet the turn so I’m discounting a flush. Phil has kept the pot small enough to call this river. Call and move on with your life Phil lol

PH calls, if he’s right he looks like a genius and if he’s wrong he gets to throw an epic rant about how these donkeys always get lucky on him… Win-win for us

@nedwhitney4123

2 жыл бұрын

He called with J3 honey!

@JAlexandrG

2 жыл бұрын

You gotta lot to learn! You won’t make it 3 years playing like that... guys like you come and go all the time!

Loved the clip on the show :) wonderful video thanks bro

It looks like a flush with a Q at the least or possibly an A, or I doubt he would have called a preflop raise with something significantly weaker. The bet size of 4k doesn't represent it too well though. It seems too risky to raise but the bet size is not frightening enough to fold so I would call.

Sup brother! So I’m in the middle of “modern poker theory” and I’m finally learning about frequencies. How do I remember all of the frequencies? Or should I not even try to? Because I watch Dnegs poker streams and he sort of knows the frequencies for 3bet 4bet fold for each position/each hand preflop. I’m guessing you will say to focus on playing fundamentally sound right now and only the top top tier guys are the ones actually memorizing frequencies and that I shouldn’t even worry about frequencies as of now. Thanks brother!

I snap call. Playing against a crazy loose aggressive player, I’m not raising to keep control of the pot, but I’m NEVER folding.

If I was Hell I would have raised on the flop with the flush draw out there. If I decided to slow play the kings, it would be because I thought my opponent was bluffing me. I would call the bluff bet. I wouldn't raise.

Check/call. He checked the turn and we block the flush. If he got there on the river with a flush or J10 that's fine. He likely would've bet an ace. Pretty straight forward. Plus when you consider who it is we're just not looking to make lay downs. Only really folding pairs under 10.

Checking the turn, tells you he didn't make any value bets, putting him on a hand possibly weaker than Ace's. Flush draw on the flop is usually betted. Unless you're up against ultra passive players, I would check it out. In this scenario, like AA's in a way. KK's hold like %20-%30 pre-flop winning probability. Heads up, yes I'm raising. In Kelsing's defense. The only hand that will usually call 3 big blinds, are usually A something or anything suited connector. Alot of game theory lol

Call. Reluctantly because the A is there and the flush is there. But its 4K ( yes that is the call of the fish) but I dont think he has an A based on the turn check after betting the flop ie flush draw more likely. Call

Seeing the cards always makes for some underlying bias, but if we were 100% sure of the type of player the villain was (and we haven't noticed him adjusting his play style to counter act the image) it feels like an easy call. 6 BBs seemed like way too small of a raise which gave good value to the Hero's cards with how the board turned out(Am I undervaluing the check on the turn with the Ace?). It was one of those very tough spots you don't want to walk into but the villain did. Did a real quick and dirty run in Equilab and if we give the villain a wide range, very wide considering he played J3o, Hero gets very good equity(66% by the river, 80% preflop). It would have taken a very large, risky bet from the Villain to have folding even becoming a thought.

Great Content as always!

@PokerCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

B. I think it's an easy call with the King of clubs in hand. He won't have too many aces in hand if he's a maniacal player. He should bet just about every time when he gets an Ace.

i mean, i would have just bet the flop, probably increase the pot or make him fold then, better than trapping when a flush might drop which in this case it did. When a flush drops youre capped with your raises as well so the implied odds are very small for trapping like that.

just my opinion but I think when you ask us what we would do on the river, it's hard when you're looking the the cards face up, not for your opinion to be shaded by bias. I'd like to think because the villain checked back the turn, combined with Phil having the Kc blocker and the villain is a maniac that I would call.....would my answer be different if I did not Phil's hand? I can't be sure.

He asked what you would do as it being a one word answer and everyone has a paragraph written lol

before finishing: if i checked the whole way id have to call, why didnt i bet? idk

If I'm not sitting at the table there's no way I can tell you what I'd do.

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call, you do not want to get raised with an one pair hand. The flush got there, the straight got there and Keating could have a two pair hand.

Great vid, As usual. M'Lord.

@PokerCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

I’m calling here. Using the MDF, if my math is right, is about 36%. Wait…that’s not very good here. I should probably fold. But dang I want to call in most spots. We block the straight and we have the K clubs. 8 combos of KQ left. And Qs-X, Js-x maybe 9s-x are all flush combos that might have gotten there. You might have to call but not like it. Especially with stack sizes so deep. Dang. I’m not really sure.

if you check the river there is no way in heck you can fold to a bet. There are so many more bluffs and worse value hands than there are better hands. And we only need to be right like 27% of the time to profit. easy call

@nicks210684

2 жыл бұрын

You might as well just fold KK preflop if you’re just going to go check-call, check-check, check-fold post vs a known maniac.

I consider Jonathan Little to be the best mind on YT for poker related content. However, from MY point of view, I feel like he made a possible mistake analyzing this hand. "It looks like a flush," Little said (after the river-card & subsequent bet from Alan.) Yet, this is a very interesting assumption. To me, It looks like Alan is repping Jack-Ten or nothing. Consider, if you will, the following: 1.) Alan checked the turn-card, in position, after being the aggressor on the flop. The turn-card was an ace of hearts, so it's HIGHLY unlikely Alan has the ace of clubs. Nobody checks a turned top-pair + flush draw when your opponent is check-calling. 2.) This mean Hellmuth knows that Alan doesn't have the Ace of clubs, King of Clubs, Ten of Clubs, or 5 of Clubs. 3.) After you eliminate those clubs from Alan's range, if he STILL HAS the flush-draw, he likely also has a PAIR or STRAIGHT DRAW as well. 4.) With stacks THAT DEEP, an aggressive player, in position, with a flush draw AND a straight-draw (or a pair + flush draw) is ALMOST NEVER CHECKING that turn-card. Hope that made sense. Not to mention, Bet flop, Check Turn, Bet River, I am always VERY suspicious of this line.

@PokerCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

The turned Ace is really good for Hellmuth's range, resulting in Alan needing to check a large chunk of his range on the turn, especially high equity draws he does not want to get check/raised off. Also, I do not presume I know what Alan is doing.

@mycommentpwnz

2 жыл бұрын

@@PokerCoaching Ahh, okay, you make a great point. I'm kind of assuming that anyone who plays J/3 clearly must be the type of player who prefers to be increasing variance, particularly with stacks that deep. Edited original comment: "Poor assumption" to "Interesting assumption."

I feel like i maybe might have to fold that but that check check turn really is making things hard. So many great bluff draw cards to keep barreling there for Alan. So i would have a little feeling that he is has air though. And now while writing this i start to like calling a bit more but definetely that turn check from alan makes things tough.

@ossi8963

2 жыл бұрын

Writed my logic through Phills eyes. I know through alans pov barreling turn might be way too agressive.

@ossi8963

2 жыл бұрын

Now watched the whole video and yeah i agree calling here isn’t that hard even. Feels tough when you are not very familiar with such a wide ranges. But that doesn’t really chance things too much here. Thanks learned a lot!

We are way to deep for me to run from 4k on the river. The most those draws would do is stop me from reraising. I would never fold this Variance take the wheel B. Call

call. there's a straight and flush on the board. there's an ace that out opponents could have checked on turn to deceive. if KK would raise, he may face a bluff re-raise and then we would be in a difficult spot. somehow I ended up calling from BB in similar situation with top pair that came on the river. but the guy had his flush and bet 70% pot on the river IP. that one hand gave me some info about the particular player.

@nickmullen402

2 жыл бұрын

A river bet-three bet rebluff for six figures against a trappy opponent like PH, who could easily just have a flush, would be an extremely ambitious play 😂

@br4insful

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickmullen402 and why exactly are you writing this as a reply to my comment? did I say something about 3-betting as a bluff?

No worse hands would call a raise, call with the bluff catcher or fold.

since phil played so passive and let him get there with a possible flush I would fold if I were Phil Steve from Missouri

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Possible flush would have made me nervous. But the check on the turn would have made me happy. I probably would have called here but if the opponent would have gone all in I probably would have folded.

I would call because I love pocket kings

If a guy is ever bluffing more than 50% of the time in a given spot, you must call him with ALL bluff-catchers. If he is ever betting with less than the frequency equal to the pot odds you're getting, you are supposed to fold, or bluff-raise, with ALL your bluff-catchers.

I'd usually call unless this is a completely passive player. Like someone else we know, I'm a station when the action indicates villain could be bluffing or value betting worse.

@nicks210684

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t call the river vs a passive player but I wouldn’t check the flop vs a passive player either.

@MaydayAggro

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicks210684 very true.

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@PokerCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

I would call

snap call

A check raise on River wouldn’t make any sense with the story Phil would be telling. A flush draw would have cbet or check-raised flop. If Phil was to rep an A, then he should have bet River (blocker size) at least if not bet turn with the flush draw out there. IMO a check-raise from Phil on River says I’ve got a 1 pair hand only. Sure the Kc is nice to have but opponent could definitely have AXc in this situation and would kind of make sense, although it would have made way more sense to bet turn if he had an A

You have to call it off even against a standard player. You doubly block the straight and you block loads of flush combos. Against someone who will play J3o from the button, hell, call with any pair!

Snap call as a bluff catcher

Based on the description you gave it’s a call all day

I would call the river because I’m a coward. If I raise and he jams I’m in a really tough spot, fearing aces or a flush.

Easy call. Even though my opponent may have hit a straight or flush, a loose, splashy player who bet the flop with a hand like Ax would almost never check back the turn when he hits his ace. In general, loose players who bluff frequently know they'll be called and try to squeeze value when they hit a hand.

@PokerCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

I agree!

Gotta just call

Sigh call against any sort of aggressive player especially since we have the king of clubs. Not sure if I'd expect to be good here more than 50% but most of the straights missed, we expect a lot of bluffs here and a lot of the bad suited Ace hands that are betting for thin value shouldn't have bet flop because they couldn't have the backdoor hearts so I would expect to be good at least 30% which is more than the 27% we need. Never raising, don't see how we can get called by worse, some aces might fold but Kings have got to be good enough here turning them into a bluff should be worse than calling especially if a lot of their value is thick value.

i would make a hopeful call praying he doesn’t have an ace or flush but then again keating would be bluffing very often so i would definitely call

I must have been a traffic cop in a former life because I would call the river bet without hesitation.

I like the check. There is nothing worse calling you.

can't raise w a flush & straight on the board....might fold...but given a menica..might have to look him up w a call

If I notice the guys been crazy I’d make a crying call expecting to see A4 or some garbage

i would just call

Easiest to hand… just never fold there and 1% of the time check raise because It will look extremely strong. Looks like it’s never a bluff there. I did It in PLO last week and dude folded second nuts. And told me. “You could never bluff here”… exactly what I thought he thought of me so I got away with It. 16k pot my way! Woohoooo

Call against an action player, raising is too thin and a 1-2 action player I know I would snap call myself in this situation

Call with KK with the King of clubs, don't see much reason to raising for myself. Bluffing an ace makes some sense, but I don't know, very player dependent. I am just calling here blocking straights and flushes

I would snap call if he were as active as you say

I think I make a crying call, hoping that my opponent made only the J on the end. Not scared at all about the long shot flush draw. My biggest fear is the A. However, I've been watching Keating and know that he is very wide. I don't think I can raise here, because that opens up the re-raise and I'd have to fold.

@bhardwajr01

2 жыл бұрын

Bro why are you scared more of an ace compared to a flush. The turn check back looks like a try to get a free card for his flush draw and the flop bet looks like a semi bluff with a flush draw. Most people would have played the same way as him if i had a flush draw

@carlwebinar1571

2 жыл бұрын

@@bhardwajr01 just going with my read.

@bhardwajr01

2 жыл бұрын

@@carlwebinar1571 any tells or something you saw that lead you into thinking like that🤔

Does Keating think he is value betting here? He might as well bet pot or over pot and turn it to a bluff.

Easiest snap call of all time

if you want to bluff against hellmuth you must go all in and hope he is not slowplayng the nuts, hellmuth really hates all in when he has not the nuts

I think still call the river.

Would have been more interesting if BU triple barrel bluffed to create real decision.

After check check turn and holding the Kc against this player type I snap call.

Call every time

Against a maniac who flats J3o on the button, you simply don't fold 2nd pair to one bet. Pretty standard call especially with a club. Bluff raising is a thing blocking both the flush and the straight, but wouldn't do it against this player type. I would go for it against a nit like Phil tho. I really hate Keating betting 3rd pair on the river btw. Too weak to value bet, too strong to turn into a bluff.

WHOAH Jason plays poker on TV?

@PokerCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, on PokerGo!

Would snip snap call if it's a loosey goosey type player.

Fold

Snap call. Aggressive player will bet his flush draw and the A in the turn if he had it. I wouldn't raise ever but I'm definitely snap calling because I played KK so passively

Personally, I would just call 🤙. Based on the way the hand played out..

Call.

I always call here. A is unlikely. Also an aggresive player would bluf the turn with flush draw

HONEY!!

I think its an easy call. If he's a maniac and playing every hand there is no reason to think he's got a flush or an ace that hit the turn... Random 2 pair is possible...

I shove with 9 3 offsuit

Call, bets on river scare cards by loose aggressive/maniac players are bluffs most of the time.

Call

I would call , my opponent would show his made flush and I would throw a temper tantrum.

Nice pot control from Hellmuth, he knows Alan is loose so he'd rather just call down against a wider bluffing range.

Calling to exploit the weakness in his strategy for that price.

call

Def nor raising, prob call

Johnathan Little, I'd like to win a $5000 seat.

white magic baby!!

I think I would reluctantly call. We checked twice so we may have induced bluffs anyway even if we are up against a less aggressive player than Keating. That said, in the games I play in, you lose to a wesk Ace quite often or a flush!

Ez call

River seems like a snap call to me. You’ve played KK trappy vs a maniacal player and you block flushes. If he has you beat, he has you beat. If you aren’t calling here you’re just letting the maniac run you over.

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Easy call, move on either way

Call. I just don’t think your hand can justify a raise for value, and U have way too much value for a bluff. It is true that Alan could be thin value betting his J, but I expect him to fold to a raise… u less he has a rock.

Having the king of clubs makes it an easier call. Maybe a hand like KhKs may find a fold here, but the price is so good that you have to call.

fold, but thats why im bad

At least call Raise value too Fold out of the question

Hellmuth is the GOAT. I followed his progress in cash games and he went from being a total loser to a total winner. No matter how unsympathetic he is.

Phil play the hand perfectly up until the turn. Don’t blow it by folding the river Phil you kept the pot small so you can call this river lol.

They are way too deep

Against an obvious maniac? Snap call...

Call

Call

Call

Call