A Mangudai walks into a bar, but there was no counter.

@rodrigotolosa590

3 ай бұрын

There is, though. Skirmishers.

@arkbuble

3 ай бұрын

Can you counter them with Elite Mangudais?

@chaosmike89th

3 ай бұрын

Best AoE2 joke Aside from the Saracen team bonus, of course

@mrosario082

3 ай бұрын

​@@chaosmike89th what is the joke?

@xavierklassen7849

3 ай бұрын

This is gold! 🤣

I want to know the Top 10 LEAST Cost-Effective match-ups. In other words, I want to know the Top 10 worst fights you can take in AoE 2.

@Klepske

3 ай бұрын

Rams Vs Villagers comes to mind

@paradigmagabriel7500

3 ай бұрын

Well, basically Huskarl vs almost every ranged units and Teutonic Knight vs almost every melee except Leitis and Urumi Swordsman

@robertlewis6915

3 ай бұрын

Castle v bombard cannon.

@Kawabongahlive

3 ай бұрын

@@robertlewis6915 the trebuchet is 50 res cheaper so castle vs treb is worse cost-effective wise!

@robertlewis6915

3 ай бұрын

@@Kawabongahlive good point

At Spirit of the Cha-Cha, you’ll kite around your partner faster than an Eagle Warrior!

@starjadiancloneinvestigato1772

3 ай бұрын

your partner: why cant you just dance like a normal person?? me: babe you dont understand im maximizing my dps (dances per second)

@chrisvanschothorst8075

3 ай бұрын

you'll be passed down quicker than the story of Cuauthemoc!

5:20 boar on the top right shaking his head at the bad matchup of mangudai vs skirms

@andrewphethean7250

3 ай бұрын

It's like watching tennis

Mangudai fact: They are named after a specific Mongolian tribe, that Chinggis Khan incorporated into his army.

@MP-oh9lt

3 ай бұрын

Mangudai killed the Karakitai! 😅

@jomolhari

3 ай бұрын

Yes, they then became their own class of army, which is the case for a lot of UU in the game too, as kipchaks, mamelukes, keshiks

@pikilic4481

3 ай бұрын

@@jomolhari yes, interestingly all these units are on horseback and throw something

@crownofglory1264

3 ай бұрын

@@pikilic4481 keshiks don't throw anything..but get thrown gold at them for every kill :D

@tyranitararmaldo

3 ай бұрын

@@crownofglory1264 Keshiks actually have bows. It's on the model, but they don't use them.

The unit that necessitate giving the Mongols a useless second unique tech since it didn’t really need another one.

@nshs1234

3 ай бұрын

I wish mongols had drill in castle age

@haroonahmed1077

2 ай бұрын

actually i ran in a case where lack of houses caused me trouble because enemy destroyed my houses. it think it is not too much useless.

Just played a 1v1 against a Mongol player as Bohemians on Gold Rush. And yes, Hussite wagons don't give a f about the Mangudai bonus. Seeing my mass of Wagons shred his mass of Mangudai won me the game. It is such a bait of a bonus sometimes. (Edit: accidentally called hussite wagons war wagons, which they technically are, since they are used in a war)

@gletscherminze9372

3 ай бұрын

No wonder you won, after cheating Korean units into the game.

@PawSmalls

3 ай бұрын

@@gletscherminze9372 whoops, you guys know what i mean...

@pikilic4481

3 ай бұрын

in Aoe3 Hussite war wagons are German units and called War Wagons :)

@kartiksaraf4676

3 ай бұрын

You're lucky he didn't go siege onagers. Drill onagers will rekt any bohemian composition

@tranducquang5912

3 ай бұрын

@@kartiksaraf4676 yeah gold rush should have more than enough gold for a full onager(even siege at some point though getting that much gold takes abit of time) + mangudai + hussar. Pretty much over for the bohemians especially since they are one of the few civs that can dodge bombard cannons with their onagers

The kiting is good, but don't forget the attention deficit. If they a-move pikemen at you and you are spending all your apm to counter, they may be losing some resources, but they are gaining a minute or two of time where they can macro up or micro on a different front.

@tranducquang5912

3 ай бұрын

you shouldn't be able to a move the Mangudai with Halbs vs mongels though. They have very good hussar to meat shield infront for them and they have siege to just shreads them to pieces. Thats why if you let the Mongels with gold access and reached their full late game potential, you are just 90% screwed

@hansoskar1911

3 ай бұрын

for Mangudai thats usually pretty easy since there is always a castle you can go and hide. much bigger problem for regular CA.

Mongols review INCOMING

@TheSpiritedFendron

3 ай бұрын

No shit Sherlock

@samarthnagar3856

3 ай бұрын

@@TheSpiritedFendron no shit wattson no shit

i would even say that Mangudais were which made AOE2 become so popular, they were so nice to micro-management during 20 years, and also the Genghis Khan campaing captive lot of people, me included. And i know mostly would agree on this cuz Mongols felt so good to play, even it if weren't the best civ, and i cant imagine how would be the age of empires 2 without the Mangudai

@a.nonimus6705

3 ай бұрын

"I would say that mangudais were *what* made AoE2 so popular" - "Which" is used when referring to a specific thing within a known set of variables. "What" is used when referring to the entirety of something. Since there is no known set of variables here, the correct word is "what" "They were so nice to micro- *manage*" - Management is a noun, and manage is a verb. You're using the word as a verb, so it's manage "And I know *most* would agree" - Mostly is an adjective, most is a pronoun. You're using the word as a pronoun here, so it's most "Even if it *wasn't* the best civ" - Were is plural, was is singular. You're referring to a singular thing here so it's was "I can't imagine how Age of Empires 2 *would be* without Mangudai" - This one's a little harder to explain without giving a full on English lecture, so I'm going to just simply say that "would be" always comes after "Age of Empires 2" in this sentence lol wish I could help more with this one, but English has a lot of really complicated nuances that are very difficult to explain and this is one of them lol Hopefully this helps with future English writing

Always waiting for what catchy website SOTL designed this time for his sponsor

How good are Mangudai? Yes

I like how the japanese cav archer with its +2 bonus damage won first and at highest percentage of hp remaining. I would really like a video comparing cav archer bonuses

Revisited Mongol overview incoming! Can we get a Turks one? I think it is one of the oldest and also a 2 parter.

@nelsonmejiaslozada9362

3 ай бұрын

i have like 5 years wating this 11

I've been waiting for the Mongols review redux!!

Not sure if you've had this one, but for a new Squarespace business: Grass Mowing: Spirit of the Lawn

@Aqua-pl8qw

3 ай бұрын

Nice

How good is the Mangudai? Yes.

8:34 The heavy cav archer starts with +4 against spears, so they actually end up with +6. It's insane how powerful they can be in the late game, especially with a good civ bonus.

Remember when mangudai fired the arrow before actually firing the arrow? I miss the days mongols had 100% accurate mounted janissaries

Mangudai is the best. The end. Credits: Directed by Robert B. Weide …

@victoriencharnot555

3 ай бұрын

Directed by : Gengis Khan Executive producer : Gengis Khan Special thanks : Ornlu

@sluggie1018

3 ай бұрын

@@victoriencharnot555 hahahaha ornlu

@balazsfenyes3880

3 ай бұрын

Who dares battle the Saracens?

Awesome video. Makes the final of Mistislav's scenario scarier

it is so weird and strange how relaxing it is to watch your videos! cheers!

Opens KZread, sees a new SOTL video. Need I say more...

Could you do a video on Shotel Warriors? Love your content so much! You're the main the reason I have something of a build order and don't still build my houses up against the side of the TC XD

You, SOTL, are the “Mangudai” of KZread. Amazing unit deserved this amazing vid! 👊

Asking a question already answered by the unit's name. Man, good aye.

you have the best sponsorship transitions on youtube.

Congrats on the sponsorship!

One has to factor in the Mangudai's fashion stats. Then it beats (Elite) Cavalry Archers and most other (unique) units! ;)

I remember when Mangudai had no frame delay. Those were the days

I thought Siege Ram blocked 2 of the bonus damage with their +2 ram armour meaning Elite Mangudai would do 3 damage?

@light_david7

3 ай бұрын

Interesting. Following for answer.

@a.nonimus6705

3 ай бұрын

How much *ram* bonus damage do mangudai do? Only bonus damage I see is *siege weapon* and siege rams have +0 *siege weapon* armor

@devangnivatkar2649

3 ай бұрын

Ram - Siege is the same difference as Elephant - Cavalry Elephants take bonus as both cavalry and elephants Rams take bonus as both rams and siege The Mangudai's bonus specifically targets siege armour

I hope you'll bring back the "KHAAAAAAAN" shout in the updated overview

I'd love to see a video on which civ you think has the best Kipchaks!

I never wanted to lose at least one of them in the first Attila the Hun misson, for one reason of them being a good unit.

I need to see SOTL go to Mongolia to test his micro out against the wild animals there with some modern Mangudai

ah yes... MONGOLS, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!

"How good are mangudai ?" Yes.

My favourite unit since I started playing AoE2 from 2000’s 😊

Attempt no. 11 of asking Spirit of the Law to make a civilisation overview like he did with Romans, but for other Romae ad Bellum civilizations, making it a series. Thanks for good work :D

Spirit of the cha cha 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

Hoping to see them vs Camel Archers

Video ideas for you rank the hardest units to counter .

@spirit-of-the-law in the upcoming Mongols overview, please do the Khan academy intro like last time

Video request/idea: how about a rundown of the mini map, its features and functions and esspecially what the various colors mean or don’t mean and what is included in their color groups. I never really mastered everything about the mini map. I know relics are white, that’s about it. Could be interesting.

Mongols overview COMING!!!!

Mangudai and Plumes were and still are my favourite units in AOE and I hope that never changes

Spirit of the law, can you please tell us whats the name of the music you use at the beginning of your video?

@ShadyHitchhiker

3 ай бұрын

I think its something generic from a music library because I've heard it in other videos and gotten Spirit of the Mental Whiplash

@hm09235nd

3 ай бұрын

darude - sandstorm

@sceurpien3593

3 ай бұрын

It is his own song, search for SONG in his channel and you can find it. The code for it: Edyj-qxOaqc

@MegadriveManiacX

3 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/d5itzI-qqLLHocY.html

nice video!

Spirit of the la hire!!

The damage comparison shows the conq constantly missing which is surprising at that range.

Short answer: Very good

It has to be strong because historically they were feared. The no frame delay originally was a reference to the fact they good ride on horseback and fire arrows backwards whilst at full gallop. They are a great unit and should not be nerfed again.

Mongol civ update coming to KZread shortly.

I didnt watch video yet But I know they are the best

With how people talk about the Mangudai, I was expecting some crazy bonuses. What I saw was Mongol Horse Archers with Siege Bonus and halved frame delay. Definitely not flashy but I guess it’ll get the job done.

@AnimeCritical

3 ай бұрын

They got nerfed after conquerors.

@micahbonewell5994

3 ай бұрын

They used to have 0 frame delay, and back in conquerors Camels were much weaker, there were far fewer good cav archer civs (only huns were considered viable). Magyars didn't exist, Tatars didn't exist, Sipahi didn't exist for turks, Berbers didn't exist, Mamluks were much worse. Elite Skirm was a much more expensive tech, cav archers were more expensive I think Japanese were the only civ that got FU cav archers. In that environment, you can see why Mangudai were seen as the best. (They also had the best campaign, besides maybe Joan of Arc)

@Predator20357

3 ай бұрын

@@micahbonewell5994 Alright, everything makes much more sense now, thank you.

@AnimeCritical

3 ай бұрын

@@micahbonewell5994 Yeah totally agree. Apart from the campaign part. Best campaign in conquerors was Montezuma where you got a superman Jaguar warrior and in terms of story it was El cid. In AoK it was Barbarosa cause teutonic knights were epic.

@nlb137

3 ай бұрын

The secret sauce is that siege is incredible and Manguadai beat the enemy siege, letting Mongol's good siege run rampant. If the mongols snipe your onagers and keep their own intact, you're gonna have a bad day.

really good.

The Mongol overview better have another Khan academy or equivalent intro joke!

Mangudai were actually faster than regular Cavalry Archers until 2(?) years ago. they were 1.45 base speed aka the same speed as Camels. So you can find that information in a lotta places.

TENGRI BLESS THE MANGUDAI!

Love the content. Cheers from Estonia

What about the briton longbows with their ridiculous range, could they serve as a counter?

9:30 this test does the Elite Conquistador dirty as hell. I have no idea why it's missing so many shots from 2 tiles away from the samurai, but it seems like a fluke (some sort of glitch), since its accuracy stat is 70%. In a real game they do not miss that much and have way more than 56 damage per minute

Spirit of the law is a true entrepreneur

Easily the best inherent bonus of any archer unit in the game--Mangudai vs siege 1:56

Do the Teutons next please.

Anyone else notice the conq missing every single shot starting at 9:24?

Mongols struggle against Elefants though.. missing helbadier really hurts there

this is pretty good content lol

I'm just here for the squarespace bits 🤷‍♀️

At 5:10 in the bottom right I literally thought I had a big fly on my screen and spend 10 minutes trying to find where it went only to realize it was a fucking boar poking its pixilated body into frame xwx

Weren't mangudai the unit that shoots at the start of the animation not at the end?

Hello, what is the first song played in the background ? Thank you.

Funny, I never trained cavalry archers when playing as Mongols

good video, but you forgot, that the Mangudai has the highest upgrade costs at all with the highest amount of benefitting upgrades! It is one of the best units, but you have to pay a lot and it took a lot of time to be fully upgraded.

Question: If I’m a total noob and don’t know about all the counters, what’s the most effective unit I can spam which will do okay in almost all encounters?

Isn't the shooting animation of the mangudai strange when you compare it to the heavy cavalry one?

8:34 doesnt the ehavy cavalry archer get +6 against spears? +4 base and another +2 from parthian tactics.

The Mongols' greatest weapon is this Man'sgoodeye

Re mangudai vs paladins, it needs to be emphasized that (i) large masses of mangudai still beat paladins and (ii) they are way better than heavy CA against paladins - the +1 attack makes a bigger difference here than vs samurai (5 vs 4 dmg, 25%, rather than 7 vs 6 dmg, 17%).

So if you go with Cav-Archer in Castle age first, can you just mix e.g. 10 Mangudai and 20 Cav-Archers in one army, or does this make the micro awkward?

@Progeusz-

3 ай бұрын

It makes micro very awkward considering there's big difference between initial attack delay of both units which is why nobody sane goes mongol cav archers. It simply doesn't make sense to ever make mongol CA when Mangudai are way better in every single aspect. You're better off starting castle age with normal cavalry like steppe lancers or knights as you build castles and transition to Mangudai. Cav archers are the type of unit which only works well when massed but you will never reach big mass of CA when Mangudai is available which means you should never go mongol CA (unless you have no access to stone).

At 8:58, shouldn’t Japanese CA show that it has attack bonus vs archers?

Is that 56 in damage per minute, 9:30 , correct?

@An1llusion

3 ай бұрын

I haven't done the math, but I assume it's an average from that distance. Conquistadors have poor accuracy, so in the clip you can notice several shots missing. If Conquistadors hit all shots, the DPS would be much higher. With RNG involved (and increased distance), the DPS thus plummets.

@SpiritOfTheLaw

3 ай бұрын

Before looking, I knew you'd be talking about the conquistador. The number was calculated correctly (I double checked), but watching it back now it seems like it had an incredibly unlucky streak of missed shots during the 3 minute test I did. It's supposed to be 70% accurate, so we'd expect ~188 damage/min, not 56. I've noticed that sometimes the game glitches out and a unit will just keep missing a bunch of shots in a row for no reason. In the video you see him miss 17 shots in a row, which should have a 0.00000013% chance of happening in any given 17 shot streak if it wasn't bugged, so there's definitely something weird going on, and it's not the first time I've seen it happen. The conquistador should have ended up with 1.45 as their DPM/cost, so it's not great and the point about Mangudai I was making doesn't change, but you're right the Conquistador isn't as bad as it looks here, and should have been about average in that test.

@meinebosma

3 ай бұрын

@@SpiritOfTheLaw so just bad luck is it. I thought I remembered it being higher in the Conquistador video. And that checks out, maybe better luck for the next showing for Conquistadors.

@PirateMacDougall

3 ай бұрын

@@meinebosma 0.00000013% is so statistically unlikely it's not "just bad luck" and it definitely needs properly investigating. It's also highly unlikely to only be effecting this test scenario so it might matter for real matches.

@meinebosma

3 ай бұрын

@@PirateMacDougall Having a bug in a test like that is still bad luck.

‏‪0:46‬‏ Wait this bouns don't effect the Unique Unit?

Mongols and franks are theost playee civs so its a good idea to pick a civ that counters both

Mangudais were nerfed to the ground and are still the best UU. Back then they were unstoppable. It was just a joy to micro them back then. I remember the 4v4 team games among Tyrants, SY, VNS, Souomi, depend on how many mangudais each team can make.

Mangudai used to be faster. They were relatively recently hit with a nerf of -0.05 speed to bring them in line with Cavalry Archers 🏇🏹. Which is an underrated nerf and made the Mongol late game noticeably worse. Especially with Mongols being so reliant on the Mangudai to make up for the their late game weaknesses.

I was not emotionally prepared to be introduced to spirit of the Cha-Cha.

I want to know more about CA

Before "Spirit of the Cha-Cha" I thought his side businesses were real.

Do bloodlines affect cav archers in AoE?

They are Man Good Ay!

I just saw the video, but i'm not 100 sure if as mongols should i go for CA or mangudai 11

What are you doing steppe lancer?

Please explain the ingame time compared to real time ❤

@lucas67898

3 ай бұрын

The internal game time moves at 1.5x faster than real world time. So every 1 minute in the real world is 1 minute 30 seconds in the game

@gletscherminze9372

3 ай бұрын

​@@lucas67898Its 1.5 for casual speed, 1.7 for normal speed and 2.0 for fast speed.

The Mongols are always the exception.

Im telling you, SOTL has a hidden bonus for puns

@a.nonimus6705

3 ай бұрын

It's not a hidden bonus. It's one of his unique techs

When are you gonna make a video about the Womangudai?

spirit of the cha cha 11

Mangudai are the OG cheat code.

When someone asks me how are the Mangudai, I say: "Man, good! Aye!"