How GLUE Saved My Lotus From Being CRUSHED! Chassis Damage Fix

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

My Lotus Elise S1 had some significant chassis damage, normally this would mean crushing the car or buying a whole new chassis. But for the first time a Lotus Elise chassis has been fixed publicly. With the use of glue!!
Frankenlise full episodes: • Lotus Elise
Huge thanks to Phil and Ash!
Automotive Sporting Heritage: www.asheritage.com/
SELOC LOTUS FORUMS: www.seloc.org/

Пікірлер: 345

  • @Laz_Arus
    @Laz_Arus3 жыл бұрын

    I was glued to this video. I found the whole process rivetting and now have a stronger bond with this channel. 😉

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    hahaha!!!! Awesome! Crushed with glee by your compliments!!

  • @grahamnutt8958

    @grahamnutt8958

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @grahamkay6142

    @grahamkay6142

    3 жыл бұрын

    This other graham is not my nutt 😃

  • @maddog6329

    @maddog6329

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stick with it

  • @Lookup2Wakeup

    @Lookup2Wakeup

    3 жыл бұрын

    What an epoxy statement to make.....😁

  • @alfamale9555
    @alfamale95553 жыл бұрын

    Great job. Little does he realise, in years to come people will use this as a key reference video in how to repair an Elise chassis. :-)

  • @sylvaleader
    @sylvaleader3 жыл бұрын

    Lovely to see the car back on the road, especially with a well thought out repair. What a lot of people don't realise is that the racing teams have been repairing Elises for years and they have been able to race them hard for several seasons after the repairs without ill effects. It may not be easy to repair the chassis and sometimes it may not look pretty but it is do able just as you have shown. Well done.

  • @GetUpFalcon

    @GetUpFalcon

    3 жыл бұрын

    I being one of those who didn’t realise! Thanks for the comment - makes complete sense.

  • @malcolmmorton989
    @malcolmmorton9893 жыл бұрын

    You truly are an inspiration with your positivity - long may it continue

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Malcolm!!

  • @tariqkhan185
    @tariqkhan1853 жыл бұрын

    In a world gone mad, this is just a lovely bit of escape.

  • @weatherall68
    @weatherall683 жыл бұрын

    So glad you got it sorted Jack, looks like a good solid repair. I think this kind of repair will become more common and accepted in the future.

  • @larrychamel
    @larrychamel3 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful post Jack! It looks like the Gents did a top notch job on fitting in the "Donor" Frame and your body work fitting it back together is going to be perfect once it's painted. Frankenlise and Influenzo may have seen better days long ago but they're both in the Category of "Their Best is yet to come!" Well Done Jack, I can't wait to see what's next for this gal! Stay Safe my friend. ❤🙏❤

  • @dieselbuilder5901
    @dieselbuilder59013 жыл бұрын

    Another great job Jack. Proves yet again that there is no such thing as "Can't be done". Any project we want to tackle is only limited by our imagination and of course the depth of our back pocket, but when you see the Elise before and after it's so worth it!

  • @nigelbullock9039
    @nigelbullock90393 жыл бұрын

    Jack's smile and enthusiasm is infectious. Vlogs get better and better.

  • @spunkbubble1
    @spunkbubble13 жыл бұрын

    Would’ve been epoxy decision not to fix it, this resin-ates much better.

  • @GenaF
    @GenaF3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so pleased to see an update on this beautiful car. I love the colour of it. I just love to see your smile when things go right and you're driving again. 😁😍

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    You and me both Gena!!

  • @junks9722
    @junks97223 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're enjoying it Jack! Was a pleasure to help out mate ;)

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re a legend Phil, thank you so much!!!

  • @randster64
    @randster643 жыл бұрын

    I really like your honesty about your misadventures....I love your videos...keep them coming

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Randall!! take care buddy

  • @vspencer9764
    @vspencer97643 жыл бұрын

    Great news I’ve been waiting for updates on this lovely car.

  • @Marc-oe1hg
    @Marc-oe1hg2 ай бұрын

    Great journey! It was a thriller to see what would be uncovered next and even more so, how you would fix it. But besides the technical aspect of this project, I am amazed in how you mentally handle these set-backs with a positive attitude and unwavering optimism. Great job Jack! Have fun with your Elise. You have earned it!

  • @robblair3703
    @robblair37033 жыл бұрын

    I had forgotten you had this. Nice to see it back and on the road again.

  • @decibel_tastic2869
    @decibel_tastic2869 Жыл бұрын

    Just for reference. There is a procedure described in the Manual to check the chassis integrity. If your bonded repair passes that test, then fine; some lasers would help.

  • @johnsim3722
    @johnsim37223 жыл бұрын

    Great to see the car saved. The extruded aluminium sections were bent and cured at temperature from what I recall from the TV program on the design and build of the Elise. A really neat process how they started making everything out of extrusions, even the pedals I believe!

  • @nwarby
    @nwarby2 жыл бұрын

    Was great to meet you at Bicester yesterday - lovely to see both your cars- and thanks for taking the time to have a chat!

  • @anthonybrand6137
    @anthonybrand61373 жыл бұрын

    Really glad to see you've got the lotus chassis properly repaired......the broad smile on your face says it all!!

  • @richardhunt809
    @richardhunt8092 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad to see it repaired. The Elise is such a special car. I’m interested to know why glue was used rather than welding.

  • @Retrobeemer
    @Retrobeemer3 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a great repair and really nicely done. Well done on saving it anyway.

  • @paula200
    @paula2003 жыл бұрын

    Great, Jack - smiling like a kid in a candy shop!

  • @andrewdavis2325
    @andrewdavis23253 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy all of your projects, and a lot of them are nearly getting there. Keep up the good work mate and a great videos.

  • @KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland
    @KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland3 жыл бұрын

    Well repaired! Congrats for perseverance and quality work! Finding good craftsmanship becomes harder and harder on the continent, not so in the UK. Blessed the UK!

  • @KD88RET
    @KD88RET3 жыл бұрын

    Great news Jack. Btw, please, please take your foot off the clutch pedal when you're not changing gear. The central divider should have a rest. Junks will probably have one.

  • @user-mg9he3qj3n
    @user-mg9he3qj3n3 жыл бұрын

    Well done Jack for your perseverance, nice to see her back up and running 🚒👍

  • @lolsovs
    @lolsovs3 жыл бұрын

    Good on you Jack for spending the money to fix up this car. Most people wouldn’t do it. I am happy to subscribe to your channel for your honest approach and good intentions.

  • @carlharvey7098
    @carlharvey70983 жыл бұрын

    Its alive! Great video Jack, really enjoyed it mate

  • @amnril
    @amnril3 жыл бұрын

    What I took away from this is this. There will almost always be a solution to a problem. Good job, well done. 🙂👌

  • @leebuckles2364
    @leebuckles23643 жыл бұрын

    Wow what a transformation all your projects are getting better by the day

  • @astront917
    @astront9173 жыл бұрын

    Well done,love your enthusiasm,all the best !

  • @eze8970
    @eze89703 жыл бұрын

    Great to see things worked out Jack! Not much gives the feedback of an S1. Keep smiling & driving! Hopefully you've given ideas/options to other owners to!

  • @RoadsOfOz
    @RoadsOfOz3 жыл бұрын

    Well done persevering with this project. vehicle projects never finish when you estimate ( I know as I am currently 18 months behind on one project and 2 months behind on another).

  • @markjenkins905
    @markjenkins9053 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on getting her back on the road, was waiting for this video for a long time.

  • @garrisong
    @garrisong3 жыл бұрын

    I’m super excited you got the Elise going they are sweet cars. I have a fiero that I’ve been working on restoring but I’ve kinda casually been looking for an Elise.

  • @carlylekhan7007
    @carlylekhan70073 жыл бұрын

    Huge Congratulations Jack. Great to see you Saving the Frankanlise. From the Scrap Yard. Happy Trails My Friend. Looking forward to seeing more. Cheers Carlyle

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers buddy, enjoy Trinidad!

  • @timothymills733
    @timothymills7333 жыл бұрын

    Gongrats, this is fantastic. And the fact that Lotus glues their chassis together seems so right in so many ways.

  • @grahamsalmons2027
    @grahamsalmons20273 жыл бұрын

    Worth it just to see your joy at the end result! Full credit for the grit and determination to get it sorted out!

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Graham, have some great plans for it!!

  • @matthewbell1968
    @matthewbell19683 жыл бұрын

    Great work Jack this is a good series, perseverance is the key 👍

  • @geekandguide
    @geekandguide Жыл бұрын

    i only happened across Number 27 by chance a few days ago. So many motoring series are a bit Jaclk-the-Lad. Jack-the-27 is refreshingly different and I find myself even watching videos about cars which don't particularly interest me because the presentation is so good. Keep it up Jack.

  • @phil-jz1mj
    @phil-jz1mj3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome stuff great see it back on the road!

  • @HomeBuiltByJeff
    @HomeBuiltByJeff3 жыл бұрын

    Great to see you save it mate!

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dude.. can’t wait for the Alferrari project to be done..

  • @TheKRU251
    @TheKRU2513 жыл бұрын

    Just love your projects Jack! Arrived at yours when looking at Ferrari 308's. Soooooo glad to see another best looking model Elise (mk1) back on the road. Keep the great content coming!! : )

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy and hope you have something equally fun to enjoy!!

  • @garyallsopp6369
    @garyallsopp636911 ай бұрын

    I used to work for the company which made the extruded parts for this chassis (and now the latest London taxi); the level of finish & cleanliness required on the individual parts is critical - Each batch has equivalent test pieces which are glued & then tested to destruction.

  • @rhiantaylor3446
    @rhiantaylor34463 жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate you showing us this work though I can understand why many keep it to themselves, possibly to avoid scrutiny from their insurance company !! Looks like a really robust job, well done.

  • @ManinaGarage
    @ManinaGarage3 жыл бұрын

    Nice work Jack! That is a very Jolly car!

  • @frozenpete788
    @frozenpete7883 жыл бұрын

    Super happy for you that you got the Elise back with its new chassis leg. I don't know how strong it is compared to an "intact" chassis, but considering it was driven with that scary damaged, strucural epoxy glue, rivets and everything. I mean premium / supercars and so on are built that way. The right adhesive can be super super strong, and the repair is beautiful. So happy to see that little Elise back too

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Pete!! Obviously original is better but I’m happy this is now good enough to be safe! Def won’t fail under load. Not sure how it would behave in a crash though.. but I drive much older and less safe cars aniway so not worried!

  • @Lurchin
    @Lurchin3 жыл бұрын

    Well done Jack, Enjoy!

  • @Bodedendrum
    @Bodedendrum Жыл бұрын

    Fabulous! The car looks amazing and glad the Permabond adhesive worked a treat. Great video. Hope you enjoy your motor :)

  • @garychivers9726
    @garychivers97263 жыл бұрын

    Well done Jack I'm pleased for you, keep the vids coming

  • @Stealthplateblocker
    @Stealthplateblocker3 жыл бұрын

    Well done! I Fantastic job. I would have given up as soon as I saw the damage properly, gone in for a cup of tea and cried into it. I’ve just been watching a bunch of fancy KZreads about all sorts of immaculate exotica kept in incredible heated garages which are far more comfortable than my living room. What a load of shite! A bloke with a single garage and a heap of stubborn enthusiasm doing it himself is far more uplifting. This country was built by fellas like you - I take my hat off

  • @sainta2667
    @sainta26673 жыл бұрын

    Looks great Jack!

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you got it sorted elise is looking superb .

  • @JustAlanJohn
    @JustAlanJohn3 жыл бұрын

    Your smiles says it all happy happy man. Nice Job 👍👍👍

  • @catcosworth
    @catcosworth3 жыл бұрын

    Great news Jack and bravo for this brave fixing ! I seriously consider the sale of my 308 for an elise S1. It would be delightfull to watch a video of the comparaison between the original and continuation ;) (if you see what i mean)

  • @greyknightsrealm8251
    @greyknightsrealm82513 жыл бұрын

    Great to see! I think at some point a meet up with us fellow Elise owners from SELOC is on the cards! :-) You could also bring it to the Lotus in the Peak mega meet next year maybe which is organised by MLOC!

  • @ryanmccormick2150
    @ryanmccormick21503 жыл бұрын

    So pleased for you Jack! Enjoy your Lotus bud 😃

  • @busterboy7505
    @busterboy75053 жыл бұрын

    A step nearer to completing one more of your car projects, well done Jack,👍👍👍.

  • @mrd4335
    @mrd43353 жыл бұрын

    Great news Jack, Really please you got it back now, Very similar to the way my Dad repaired them, instead of glue n rivets....they would plug weld through the holes to hold back plates, and Tig weld the seams. They would put an extra bar across inside to make up for lost strength...They were getting write-off all the time....beeing small and low n often in dark green, purple, or black....!!! People would pull out n side swipe them.!! He did a strong honist repair and good money could be made. But that repair was criminal..!!! Great show top Channel.

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mr D!! Interesting to hear your dad also repaired them!

  • @mrd4335

    @mrd4335

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Number27 Yes back in the 90's, One he had was so new it even had the dealer paperwork flung under the seat, some poor bugger must have written it off on pick-up day..!! In those days a fax would come in once a week with latest stock at the salvaged dealers, My dad would drop everything and rush out to put deposit on special cars like Lotus. We had a nice Disney holiday of the back of one he did. But yes it was done very similar way his partner Albert was very good Aluminium fabricator welder. He said the repairs done that way were incredibly strong and more than adequate for a car of that size n weight.. So your all good...(:

  • @judih.8754
    @judih.87543 жыл бұрын

    Nice thought out repair!! Happiness reigns!

  • @leytonthomas2043
    @leytonthomas20433 жыл бұрын

    Nice Job Jack, it really looks a "Proper Job", its a pity previous repairs were not done to this standard!

  • @marcryvon

    @marcryvon

    3 жыл бұрын

    The way it was "fixed" was almost... no, WAS criminal !👹 Imagine the car, as bought, in a serious crash. Sudden deaths for sure of both driver and passenger.

  • @olivers.6420
    @olivers.64203 жыл бұрын

    Great to see the Elise alive again !!!

  • @richardtaylor2449
    @richardtaylor24493 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jack i love Elises and the Frankenelise 🤞😎❤

  • @EvoraGT430
    @EvoraGT4303 жыл бұрын

    Superb recovery work.

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Cheers!

  • @malcolmhardwick4258
    @malcolmhardwick42583 жыл бұрын

    Good to see you smile man !

  • @hughnelmes864
    @hughnelmes8643 жыл бұрын

    Well done JP. Another entertaining video.👍👍👍

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Hugh!!

  • @andrewf7822
    @andrewf78223 жыл бұрын

    So pleased for you Jack !

  • @jeffreysalzman1497
    @jeffreysalzman14973 жыл бұрын

    I never doubted you for a minute. I knew there would come a day when you would say "IT'S ALIVE!!"

  • @richardsmith9509
    @richardsmith95093 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic repair !!!!

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Richard!!

  • @focus3303
    @focus33033 жыл бұрын

    Jack....so glad to see you have the lotus back. The guy's done an amazing repair. Looking forward to the finished result 🙂👍

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks chap!!!

  • @Engineerd3d
    @Engineerd3d3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome car. I'm glad you got it back Jack. Awesome!

  • @quemada100
    @quemada1003 жыл бұрын

    Well done.. Looks great..👍

  • @wesleycardinal8869
    @wesleycardinal88693 жыл бұрын

    Great to see another one of these special cars kept alive.

  • @fransgeers7400
    @fransgeers74003 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always Jack. Will indeed be the future of Elise chassis repairs, pity is that chassis will be hard to find, to cut out the correct dimensions for the repair. Enjoyed that smile on your face while driving!

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 🙏!!

  • @TheJensenInterceptor
    @TheJensenInterceptor3 жыл бұрын

    Well done Jack - Great job

  • @craftingmat5425
    @craftingmat54253 жыл бұрын

    This is really interesting. I have an Elise S2 on my own, I always considered a damage to "the tub" to be unfixable (hence I was wondering what this crazy YT dude is doing here :-) but again... you did it! Congrats!). Really good to see the Frankenlise back on your channel (although I also like your 308). I am really unhappy I can only like this once... more of this please :-)

  • @davidthomas1424

    @davidthomas1424

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the reminder to 👍👍😎

  • @TomEnduro

    @TomEnduro

    3 жыл бұрын

    Join SELOC. We have all the answers. 😉

  • @TM-on4jl
    @TM-on4jl3 жыл бұрын

    Excellant job...Delighted to see car back on road...

  • @motorv8N
    @motorv8N3 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant outcome, Jack. If anyone out there in KZread-land richly deserves a couple of wins.....it’s you mate! 👏😎👏

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks chap!!

  • @rayallen4193
    @rayallen41933 жыл бұрын

    Phil (junks) is a legend help me out with parts when I was fixing my S2. Really happy you got it back on the road

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ray, yes Phil is a top man!!

  • @richardskelton5119
    @richardskelton51193 жыл бұрын

    Good job and a great video!

  • @marceld6061
    @marceld60613 жыл бұрын

    I don't care what others might think about your repair- I like that you saved the car! You enjoy it. It looks like quality workmanship to me. When it comes time to sell it you will be open and honest about the repair. Jack, if you have a hard time selling it, look me up 😉 I am not holding my breath- something tells me you won't be tempted to part with those keys anytime soon.

  • @techyd8411
    @techyd84113 жыл бұрын

    Amazing - really glad this back on the road and drivable. Hope you have many happy miles of motoring 😃

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @steffydog
    @steffydog3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, nearly there, nice one 🏁

  • @fractalrender
    @fractalrender3 жыл бұрын

    Very happy for you, those glues are basically like soldering and I am shure it will be just fine!. It seems its the successor for the 308! I hope you wont have as much as you had to do on the 308. Cheers!!! Very very cool car!

  • @geoffmarsh7986
    @geoffmarsh79863 жыл бұрын

    Brave man, and assuming the repair process is safe, long-lasting and accepted by the Lotus tipo, well done for saving a true drivers car. Being open and honest with the work required, your now well known car can be enjoyed by other owners in the future, assuming the MOT police are happy.

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Geoff!! I'm sure not everyone in the Lotus community will approve but most seem supportive and after all plenty of other alluminium chassis cars are fixed.

  • @geoffmarsh7986

    @geoffmarsh7986

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Number27 It may be that when you come to sell the car, your YT channel could generate a lot of interest, as did Ratarossa's 360 when he sold it last year. Also, and you will know better than I, that many Elise are used as a track cars, which might appeal to someone - you may not get your money back but that is not your objective. Glad you got it back on the road, and who cares what people think!!!

  • @cornishrider
    @cornishrider3 жыл бұрын

    Great looking in that colour and with those wheels

  • @BahnstormerUK
    @BahnstormerUK3 жыл бұрын

    Superb stuff !

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts65303 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a solid job - as you say, better to have too much glue, rivets and welding, and it looking over bonded, rather than an unobtrusive job you can’t trust!

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Simon!!

  • @estheticsdenturestudioinc.291
    @estheticsdenturestudioinc.2913 ай бұрын

    Happy for you!

  • @MyRetroWatches
    @MyRetroWatches3 жыл бұрын

    Well done!

  • @organiccold
    @organiccold3 жыл бұрын

    Nice one Jack. They done a nice repair. Most of new supercars ar bonded together, is really the right way to do it. Love that Lotus :)

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Grazie Inacio!!

  • @superchargedv8993
    @superchargedv89933 жыл бұрын

    Are you happy Jack? Good on you mate 👍🚗💨

  • @ezdubbin97
    @ezdubbin973 жыл бұрын

    So happy for you man!! I wish we had the MK1 Elise here in the States, would love to get my hands on one!!

  • @DaveGore

    @DaveGore

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some of them are 25 years old already! You might be able to get hold of one in the States soon.

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    You should be able to import them now i think? is it the over 20 years old thing or something similar? Thanks for watching!!

  • @DaveGore

    @DaveGore

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Number27 it's 25 years, but still, not long now! Well done bring this one back from the brink by the way! Followed your progress on SELOC.

  • @bravedave8512

    @bravedave8512

    3 жыл бұрын

    The first S1s rolled out in July 1996 so they say... it was pretty slow going at first. I've only seen about six 1996 models for sale in the last 12 years (432 were made that year I believe). Mine's number 232 which rolled off the factory line October 31st 1996. It also happens to be the first S1 Elise imported in to Canada in October 2011 under the 15-year rule :)

  • @ezdubbin97

    @ezdubbin97

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Number27 yep, 25 years and older is the rule for the US. I might have to start looking…of course right now I’m knee deep in a Turbo Esprit love affair, so I might have to wait until that’s gone sour 😂. Perhaps by then you’ll be ready to off load yours, haha. Always an entertaining watch, all the best!!

  • @TomEnduro
    @TomEnduro3 жыл бұрын

    Well done to Phil Peeks (Junks) and SELOC for the amazing support. SELOC is a Lotus enthusiasts forum open to all, so google them and feel free to join. It’s free and all welcome 👍

  • @devonmantimtim8263
    @devonmantimtim82633 жыл бұрын

    Cool car.. Great work.. Well done for not dropping any bolts inside. Looks like a complete success ☺ I'd happily drive that. Great work

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Tim!!

  • @orenbarnea2841
    @orenbarnea28413 жыл бұрын

    So good to see you delighted with one of your cars, such a refreshing change compared to what we usually see here :) Does the chassis need to be examined (or MOTed) after such an unconventional fix, or can you just start driving it?

  • @ImBarryScottCSS
    @ImBarryScottCSS3 жыл бұрын

    Junks is a legend, shame he's retiring 😔

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, absolutely too guy. So kind.. lovely chap!

  • @giovannigallo8429
    @giovannigallo84293 жыл бұрын

    Such great cars the S1. My missus used to do the school run in ours 😉

  • @DaveGore
    @DaveGore3 жыл бұрын

    From one S1 owner to another, I'm glad you've made the car useable again!

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave, I'm super chuffed with it!!

  • @DaveGore

    @DaveGore

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Number27 Brilliant! Had mine 20 for years, absolutely love it.

  • @global_nomad.

    @global_nomad.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DaveGore Dave any chance you two can hook to compare the fixed and original one??

  • @sparky4878

    @sparky4878

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DaveGore I never bit the bullet to buy an S1. Test drove a Millennium Edition that was for sale but ended up with a VX220.

  • @DaveGore

    @DaveGore

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sparky4878 I test drove a VX before buying the Elise. Lovely car but I was upgrading from a Seven and it felt a bit too heavy. Mines a very early S1, only just over 700kg.

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