Can a £20 Oil Additive SAVE My Broken Ferrari 308? + £ Thousands on an Engine Rebuild?

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My Ferrari 308, the Influenzo, is smoking badly and using too much oil. Can a simple engine treatment stop it smoking and save me thousands of pounds and a full engine rebuild? Liqui Moly has a reputation as one of the best engine treatments and flush out there, will it be able to save me from having to take the V8 engine out and doing a full rebuild?

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  • @LeytonC
    @LeytonC2 жыл бұрын

    If the rings are that bad, an engine flush for that amount of time will do nothing to them, the only chance would to fill the cylinders with that stuff or ATF and leave it to drain through the rings for some time, then give it a good run and cool down a few times. To be honest, just rebuild it, its going to be far less hassle and actually work. of course that is a IMHO :D

  • @CherylCold

    @CherylCold

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree, just avoiding the inevitable, but a route you have to go down before the bills come in. The hardest part is pulling the engine out and putting it back in... But.. when you go down this route you must replace the oil pump, water pump, belts etc and the costs will add up. No idea how expensive this is for a Ferrari, I suspect huge, just done this to our integrale and Elise, they were not cheap. The influenza for sure will put on hold the next visit to the dentist. (Edit- Clutch and possibly flywheel)

  • @mac4boys541

    @mac4boys541

    2 жыл бұрын

    When i did mine a got ! litre of petrol and added fuel injector cleaner, atf and any "carbon dissolving" auto treatment and filled each cylinder over the course of a weekend. I left the oil drain plug out so any that went past the rings drained out. In the end 2 cyls held the concoction and 2 still had some leakage but at a lot slower rate.

  • @stevemull2002

    @stevemull2002

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was going to say the same, as in sump plug out, keep filling the cylinders with ATF (i used two stroke oil and petroll on a siezed engine) i would refill daily, and if the oil control ring is gummed up it will free off, but takes more than a few hours, more like a week of refilling, then a dose of neat petrol, but let it drain right off before filling with oil and starting

  • @RupertReynolds1962

    @RupertReynolds1962

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried an "Italian tune-up"? :-)

  • @nickriley1652

    @nickriley1652

    2 жыл бұрын

    I soaked my I6 cylinders in seafoam (topping up, over 4 day period) in an attempt to free up gummed piston rings. Then change the oil & vacuum cylinders immediately before starting!

  • @ianstoys13mgs
    @ianstoys13mgs2 жыл бұрын

    I would take a wheel nut off, and then from new parts assemble another 308 around it to cure the issues

  • @stephenjones4699

    @stephenjones4699

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not a rusty wheel nut,...........

  • @jdoo2252

    @jdoo2252

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stephenjones4699 Then replace the wheelnut

  • @techyd8411

    @techyd8411

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣

  • @gazzafloss

    @gazzafloss

    2 жыл бұрын

    ...Then send all the discarded parts over to me, I'd have a 308 in a heartbeat, a beautiful old Faz in any condition, it's all fixable, just maybe a bit up scale from young Jack's skill set.

  • @RevGary

    @RevGary

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gazzafloss I was an engineer before answering a call to Ministry and its obvious to me that Jack aint an engineer he's winging it and doesn't have the skill set as you say. He's bit off more than he can chew though a rebuild might be what's required most likely. Amateur car enthusiasts can do more harm than good I'm amazed with some people who tinker too much. He's a nice guy but working on a car in his pyjama bottoms lol 🤔 what is he all about 🤔😂

  • @scottlehuray7062
    @scottlehuray70622 жыл бұрын

    The frustrations of an old classic, but persistance always prevails. And its a Ferrari so worthy of the blood sweat and tears. Makes good viewing too.

  • @oohmeconkers1968
    @oohmeconkers19682 жыл бұрын

    I think we know where this is going Jack. Gloves on… tools out.. engine in pieces on the carpet on the dining room! Block in the bath.. kitchen table with a vice attached.. Bite the bullet, no amount of engine flushes are going to make it right. It’ll be epic when it’s done. Hurry before summer!! 👌👌

  • @sheldonaubut
    @sheldonaubut2 жыл бұрын

    At this point I'd put cylinder #6 at BDC and stick a borescope down the cylinder and look to see if the walls are scored. That will only confirm the problem but at this point a rebuild of the block is in your future.

  • @jarleadolfsen9426
    @jarleadolfsen94262 жыл бұрын

    A slightly hotter plug might keep it running much longer before they oil up. Did that on my Merak and it worked like a charm. In the end you will need to rebuild it anyway.

  • @paultaylor9652
    @paultaylor96522 жыл бұрын

    Your dad looks such a genuine chap Jack. It's a shame the treatment didn't help, but it probably cleaned the internals like the oil pickup etc. One thing I do know is that you have an incredible amount of patience, I'd of sold it by now sadly.

  • @SteeeveO
    @SteeeveO2 жыл бұрын

    I think the problem is you need a pinch more oregano & less basil. They are very finnicky with such things. ps are you sure that's your dad? I know he looks like Enzo (especially in darker sunglasses) but surely having an Italian son buying a Ferrari is like the holy grail of fatherhood.....

  • @e36s50b30
    @e36s50b302 жыл бұрын

    Jack, you missed to use Liqui Moly Oil Stop. That would rather be the product to really fight your issue (as long as the internals are reasonably sound). It’s very well known in the world of young- and oldtimers. You would need to have it in your engine for at least 450 miles before you would start to see results though.

  • @marcotinnirello6010
    @marcotinnirello60102 жыл бұрын

    Ah the classic Italian dad “Well’…” at 12:15 😂 He couldn’t have shown his true feelings any better than with that word…. Bravo to him for getting involved in the video 🇮🇹

  • @hoonaticbloggs5402
    @hoonaticbloggs54022 жыл бұрын

    Whenever one cylinder is lower on compression than others by more than 10% it’s time for the engine to come out

  • @moonlight5050
    @moonlight50502 жыл бұрын

    Been watching this from the start 2 years ago and it needed an engine rebuild then.....I think its time you did it once and for all and then enjoy the 308 in all its glory 😁😁😁👍 My fav Ferrari since being a kid 😀

  • @vinceandtheresa1243
    @vinceandtheresa12432 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see you and your Dad out having a ride together. Sorry mate, snake oil never works. You need new rings. Looking forward to the bottom rebuild. Good luck, from Canada

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool2 жыл бұрын

    I know it's a pain to have the engine out and apart but imagine how wonderful it will be when it's done. I still remember how I felt when I was first taken out for a spin in a hard top model when, as a sixteen year old apprentice, I worked for the main dealer in Colchester. One of those events that will stay with me forever.

  • @peterh4761

    @peterh4761

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a thought....have you checked the engine breather?! If that's blocked it'll blow by like hell

  • @gregculverwell
    @gregculverwell2 жыл бұрын

    Can also be valve guide seals. Liqui molly has something for that - Motor Oil Saver. My old Landcruiser was smoking on startup and using more oil than I would like. I used the product and after about 300 miles the smoking stopped and after a further 2000 the oil level hasn't moved.

  • @ElTurfStuff
    @ElTurfStuff2 жыл бұрын

    Definately rings. Had the same problem on an old Rover Mini. Got the engine rebuilt (and re-bored) and it went on to 120 thousand miles - until it literally rotted away.

  • @bobstains1934
    @bobstains19342 жыл бұрын

    When addressing low compression on a cylinder, check with the tester as you have then drop a teaspoon of oil into the cylinder and try again. If the rings aren’t sealing sufficiently this will (for a few seconds) give you a perfect seal. If the compression is still low, there could be a valve/seat issue, possibly stem seals also.

  • @buggerlugz6753

    @buggerlugz6753

    2 жыл бұрын

    good advice!

  • @wartbiter
    @wartbiter2 жыл бұрын

    We all do enjoy watching your struggles so much. Please continue.

  • @mikeg8835
    @mikeg88352 жыл бұрын

    Bless you for trying Jack but I think your clutching at straws now mate , that engines got worn bores / pistons and or rings. On another note , the smoke from the rear on hard acceleration looked more brownish than blue that would be unburnt fuel suggesting running way too rich on full chat and contributing to the blackened plugs. Finally , engine flushes often worsen smoking , as any carbon or gumming of the rings gets cleaned away which is in effect helping to seal things regards Mike

  • @martinjones849

    @martinjones849

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah running rich

  • @stuartd9741

    @stuartd9741

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Influenzo has only done 25.000 miles. I wouldn't have thought the pistons or bores would be worn at that mileage. Yes the cars probably been driven hard all its life. Still 25k still low mileage...

  • @grahamepigney8565

    @grahamepigney8565

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stuartd9741 something like a Ferrari that hasn't been driven hard is just as likely to oil up and deposit carbon. '70s.'80s high perforemance Italian cars that were used to pose around town and did few miles rather than burn up the autostrada often needed servicing more often. A proper diagnosis is required rather than jumping at magic additives or an expensive rebuild.

  • @mrman17

    @mrman17

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stuartd9741 Yes, but if I recall, he did overheat it a while ago, causing one or more of the heads to need to be rebuilt or replaced. It seems that's when this problem started, and overheating the engine can cause all sorts of issues.

  • @gizmo6164
    @gizmo61642 жыл бұрын

    My absolute favourite genre of your videos. Whilst exhausting with the emotional rollercoaster of it all, hugely enjoyable too. Keep the faith and thanks for the videos.

  • @nigel.w
    @nigel.w2 жыл бұрын

    Great to see you sharing your passion with your dad!

  • @Neomet010
    @Neomet0102 жыл бұрын

    Another great episode Jack. Your dad is completely charming and seeing you both out for a drive in the Ferrari was perfect.

  • @scottjohnson4319
    @scottjohnson43192 жыл бұрын

    So nice to see the Influenzo again. Must admit that it's foibles make it seem even more exotic. I guess now hear comes the money round and rebuild the lump. Best of luck Jack, pulling for you and the Ferrari.

  • @troogroove9318
    @troogroove93182 жыл бұрын

    That was the worst thing to do, putting in an additive to thin the oil and break up any sludge on an engine that has an oil problem. The sludge might of been keeping oil from escaping and you then go and give it a right foot full. There is a KZreadr that owns an engine reconditioning shop in the uk that perhaps you could reach out to and do a collaboration, as you need a rebuild .

  • @boastyy
    @boastyy2 жыл бұрын

    Might be a good idea to have a look in the cylinders with a camera . Those inspection boroscopes are quite cheap and handy to have.

  • @4x4ManiacBadTimeGarage
    @4x4ManiacBadTimeGarage2 жыл бұрын

    interesting video, thanks, looking forward for updates

  • @713vinh
    @713vinh2 жыл бұрын

    You will sort this car out sooner or later. Keep at it mate we're all rooting for you!

  • @robertvsnow
    @robertvsnow2 жыл бұрын

    I bought a 1958 Porsche for $6,800 in the mid 1990's that had a 1960 Super 90 engine and a tan repaint over original silver. We called it the "Peanut" because it came from Georgia. Carbs were worn, distributor was very worn, and it burned oil. Removed the engine (trivial in a 356) and found a crack in the case. Located a 58 super engine in Texas and had it rebuilt by a shop with a national reputation, about 50 miles away in Allentown, PA. Everything was gone over. Nothing left to diagnose. Amazingly the engine went back together with stock bearings, no oversize needed. New iron NPR cylinders and pistons made in Japan. New Bosch alloy distributor made in Brazil. I rebuilt the Zenith carbs myself. Rallied it with local Porsche club and was never let down. Car sold at Amelia Island a few years back and now lives in Wales.

  • @3.2Carrera
    @3.2Carrera2 жыл бұрын

    I'd try what some of the commentators said about going in the top end. I've used seafoam on many engines that were smoking or running poorly both in the engine oil like you did, but better effect is spraying into the throttle body or letting the vacuum line to the brake booster to suck it in. I unstuck a ring on a 1983 Honda Nighthawk 650 with seafoam sprayed into the carb and put another 50,000 miles on that engine after the previous owner gave up on it and wanted the bike out of his garage. People think it's snake oil and a waste of money but in the states it's like $8 and nothing to lose compared to en engine rebuild on an exotic. I'm rebuilding a Carrera 3.2 engine now and I'm probably close to $20,000 in parts alone so those that think spending $8 on a longshot bet are really idiots. You have absolutely nothing to lose so at least try it even if you probably have worn rings.

  • @gregorystewart6539
    @gregorystewart65392 жыл бұрын

    Loving the intro to the program. Clarkson would be proud!! Perseverance is the only solution to virtually any problem.

  • @michaelstaley2241
    @michaelstaley22412 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Chris very enjoyable to watch frustrating for you and costly; still excellent presentation.

  • @nigelbullock9039
    @nigelbullock90392 жыл бұрын

    Jack. Another brilliant video featuring your Dad. You can only smile watching your highs and lows of the ferrari.

  • @asensibleyoungman2978
    @asensibleyoungman2978 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making these videos. It makes me realise how much I love my trouble free 12 year old Rav4.

  • @richardsmith9509
    @richardsmith95092 жыл бұрын

    Happy to send you some from Canada !!!!!

  • @dieselpowerworks
    @dieselpowerworks2 жыл бұрын

    I had a similar problem not on a Ferrari but a Alfa Spider also tried everything it was caused by ring land on cylinder No1.... Engine rebuild all fixed ..it takes all your sadness away once it's fixed. Good show sir

  • @chrismadge7292
    @chrismadge72922 жыл бұрын

    I feel your pain Jack, the SC 924 seems to work for 20 mins before something else breaks!

  • @steffydog
    @steffydog2 жыл бұрын

    Fab to see dad out n about, take care Jack, I’m sure you’ll nail in one day 👍🙏🏁😊

  • @Engineerd3d
    @Engineerd3d2 жыл бұрын

    Man I am glad you tried this. It was worth a shot. Good luck on the rebuild. Bottom end rebuilds are not for the faint of heart. I hope you have a good shop do it. Also see if you can have the whole rotating assembly 0 balanced while they are in there. A V8 benefits greatly from a proper balance job. Your power and will be smoother and the engine will rev like silk.

  • @pauln0371
    @pauln03712 жыл бұрын

    Back in the late 80s I used to use Wynn's Oil additive for my XR3i. Worked a treat.👍👍

  • @terrytheberry3249

    @terrytheberry3249

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha yeah I used to have an xr3i which had dreadful tappet noise; I got through tons of that gloop.

  • @BahnstormerUK
    @BahnstormerUK2 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear you've found the fault. It's always something simple, but you only find that out after hours of painful fault finding !!!!!

  • @mw5076
    @mw50762 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to the inevitable engine rebuild series

  • @ErikDB6
    @ErikDB6 Жыл бұрын

    Your dad is such a dignified looking gentleman. We need regular commentary from him as things develop.

  • @Surestick88
    @Surestick882 жыл бұрын

    As the owner of a 2T dirt bike that's running a bit rich I can tell you can clean carbon fouled plugs. A blowtorch will burn the carbon off and they'll be fine.

  • @sjoroverpirat

    @sjoroverpirat

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even with propane?

  • @Surestick88

    @Surestick88

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sjoroverpirat Yup, that's what I use. Hold the metal piece that the wire clips to in a set of pliers, blowtorch the firing end until it's red hot, then put it down somewhere heat resistant to cool off. You can get them almost white again if you put them through an ultrasonic cleaner after that. In a dirt bike I just rinse-repeat, in a road car I'd probably put a limit to the number of cycles before tossing them because if they fail a tow is going to be more than the money you're saving. With a V12 going through plugs every 2K miles would get expensive fast, especially if you're buying iridium plugs.

  • @keepyourbilsteins

    @keepyourbilsteins

    2 жыл бұрын

    MAP gas works best.

  • @PompeyMatt17

    @PompeyMatt17

    2 жыл бұрын

    I remember back in the 80s my Dad had a spark plug cleaner...it was like a mini sand blaster the size of a mug. You plugged it in, stuck a plug in the rubber bung and when you started it, it sounded like an kitchen mixer. The plugs came out gleaming..but I've never seen one since then..

  • @BMC1100

    @BMC1100

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do the same with my plugs, my 2 stroke lawn mower is the worst offender. I sit the plugs loosely in the vice and burn them till they turn white.

  • @maclachj1
    @maclachj12 жыл бұрын

    Great vid despite more pain

  • @metrix9125
    @metrix91252 жыл бұрын

    You are awesome to watch, I don't even follow Ferraris but I watched the whole video

  • @Lemma01
    @Lemma012 жыл бұрын

    A pleasure to be introduced to Papa - would be good to see a side-by-side comparison of his pleased and displeased facial expression! I'm currently struggling with oiled plugs on my (single cylinder, 1964) Moto Morini - will try risotto - as I'm from Staffordshire, I'll obviously put in extra parmigiano. Thanks for another great episode. X

  • @highgatehandyman6479
    @highgatehandyman6479 Жыл бұрын

    I had a similar rush of joy but from fixing an electric golf buggy. Easy fix/ charred terminal change. Fired from all cylinders. Good runner now

  • @stephenanderson4603
    @stephenanderson46032 жыл бұрын

    Great entertainment, makes me feel a little better I’m not the only one with similar issues 👍

  • @chockypompom
    @chockypompom2 жыл бұрын

    While I admire you for trying the moly additive, as someone who's been there and done it. I started this video with very little expectations of a fix.

  • @sefikempowermentcoachvilla7843
    @sefikempowermentcoachvilla78432 жыл бұрын

    Really like the new style to the videos and tweeks 👍

  • @FergusPol
    @FergusPol2 жыл бұрын

    I think the plug gives you the answer. Wet and black on 1 side and washed clean on the other. This suggests leaking valve stem oil seals allied to bore wash.

  • @jimamizzi1
    @jimamizzi12 жыл бұрын

    Great to see your dad involved jack.

  • @JerryMotorsport
    @JerryMotorsport2 жыл бұрын

    Nice 60 mile 'Italian Tune Up' there😁😁. Thanks for keeping us entertained.

  • @dolfandon7124
    @dolfandon71242 жыл бұрын

    It really is a miracle, that Liqui Moly... that I had a slight glimmer of hope that it could work! Italian here too, mangia mangia that looked good!

  • @rbrbr261
    @rbrbr2612 жыл бұрын

    "Back in the day" of my Alfa flat 4's with carburettors I had a spark plug cleaner. 12v motor and a bag of iron filings that would blast the spark plug electrode clean. It did work!

  • @antgerada
    @antgerada2 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to the full engine rebuild series! It'll be worth it in the end. Out of interest, what garage flooring are you using? and would you recommend?

  • @marky9117
    @marky91172 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid Jack. Your dad is good at being diplomatic. 😄

  • @Ghostinacastle
    @Ghostinacastle2 жыл бұрын

    I used to have trouble with the extenders and mine always used oil too, but in fairness the handbook said it used a litre of oil per 200 miles which was about right. After I sold the 308 the guy who then stripped the motor for the cars restoration said it was in pretty good shape apart from slightly bent valve stem which had been causing hot spotting in the coolant but not affecting the running

  • @nikbeale4624
    @nikbeale46242 жыл бұрын

    A small tip, whe pouring oil keep the container side on if possible as you get a smoother pour with less gulping and less mess. I know it's not a major thing but it's a thing. Keep up the great work 👍.

  • @jeremyshaw5963
    @jeremyshaw59632 жыл бұрын

    I think it has been mentioned before, but using a Colortune might let you see what's going on in each combustion chamber. Having just finished rebuilding the engine in my old Sunbeam Rapier may I wish you good luck and no nasty, expensive surprises!

  • @niosanfrancisco
    @niosanfrancisco2 жыл бұрын

    Love your pops….looks like a nice gentleman

  • @G58
    @G582 жыл бұрын

    Jack, have you considered putting the oiled up plugs in an ultrasonic tank? Works well on everything else.

  • @spooler7828
    @spooler78282 жыл бұрын

    I have used CD2 before and it freaking worked. We did a compression test before and after and it level out the compression across all cylinders. I don't know if they sell it anymore. That was back in 199x's.

  • @jempoof
    @jempoof2 жыл бұрын

    Your right about the plugs. you have too replace them.

  • @julesviolin
    @julesviolin2 жыл бұрын

    Wot Iain Tyrrell said you need to do 🤠 Lives our way Absolute GURU !!

  • @malachy1847
    @malachy18472 жыл бұрын

    As said a few days ago by another person... Cold Dry compression test and write down the Results then a tea spoon of oil into each Cylinder and write down same then also an 'Air Leak down' tests on those Cylinders with respective inlet and then exhaust valves closed, to see if the valves are passing, or if any Blow By is coming from same...Glove on the tail pipe would show up exhaust Valve leakage, could even be Oil leakage down the Valve stem seals...if so maybe there could be combustion gases blowing up through when the Oil Filler Cap is taken off and when the Car is Running, Great Upload...

  • @bonkeydollocks1879
    @bonkeydollocks18792 жыл бұрын

    I caught the start of the TV programme magnum Pi the other day and at the part where he wheels pins off the grass his is blowing smoke too! Maybe " they all do that sir" 😄

  • @cornishrider
    @cornishrider2 жыл бұрын

    Your Dads great, very understated! Mine would have given me a different answer! 🤣

  • @rolandfaragher-horwell1547
    @rolandfaragher-horwell15472 жыл бұрын

    The oil residue on only one side of the spark plug suggests oil entering the combustion chamber via the intake valve (bad valve seal). Oil getting past rings typically will be more universal in coating the plug.

  • @Mo-cs4qr
    @Mo-cs4qr2 жыл бұрын

    Magical engine sound

  • @SWATMRBG
    @SWATMRBG2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, here in Bulgaria the common practise is to fill the cylinders with gas for lamps. Also its good to rotate the crank after the gas is down in the sump and refill it again... It will take a good amount of time cause its a Vee engine but I think its the last hope for that rings :) BR

  • @davidquinn9676
    @davidquinn96762 жыл бұрын

    When you had the Ferrari guy balance the carbs a year ago, he seemed to set the idle super rich. He even said that was normal with these cars. That was able to get every cylinder to idle, but I am not surprised to see that your plugs reflect rich running.

  • @NonPuoiNonSaperlo
    @NonPuoiNonSaperlo2 жыл бұрын

    Your dad is great! His presence on the channel will make it grow faster 😁👍👍

  • @ThatGuy-yk9lg
    @ThatGuy-yk9lg2 жыл бұрын

    Zmax oil additive, worked miracles on a turbo pt cruiser I had. Breaks down the sludge but you leave it in for the duration of the oil life. It was endorsed by Carol Shelby back in the late 80s.

  • @The_BenboBaggins
    @The_BenboBaggins2 жыл бұрын

    I admire your optimism, but that flush was never going to save a rebuild - I hope it goes well though, could be a great opportunity for some tasteful improvements.

  • @mickthemonkey
    @mickthemonkey2 жыл бұрын

    Please, just pull the engine. In my experience engine flushes just loosen up crap which increases the chance of something breaking loose & killing your crank. At the moment you'd probably get away with rings & a hone.

  • @virgilrytaar9083
    @virgilrytaar90832 жыл бұрын

    I salute you! If it's any consolation I can give an update on the UK'S cheapest 996: the annoying tick has been diagnosed as a lazy lifter. As soon as you put an extra 50 rpm on from idle it vanishes, I've tried EVERY oil additive on the market and none of them have made any difference. I'm convinced that it's all 'snake oil'. Mines a very early build so I could just increase the idle via the cable but at this stage in my frustration I really can't be bothered. Good luck to you

  • @ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932
    @ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio69322 жыл бұрын

    Great video, prior to the rebuild of the bottom end I would consider a rebuild of your bottom end with the purchase of some Italian styled pajama bottoms.

  • @craftingmat5425
    @craftingmat54252 жыл бұрын

    First, I like your Intro Style, which does not spoil too much but makes you curious. Like! Second, this kind of content is, what I want to see on your channel... Like! Last (but not least!) - the star of this episode is your dad! I like the idea of dad and son driving in the ferrari. Also he seems to be so polite. Family is so important... L-I-K-E! Keep on going, crazy brit 🙂this type of content is really appreciated!

  • @bretkaiser7355
    @bretkaiser73552 жыл бұрын

    Love ya, Jack. Still watching!

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks dude!

  • @chriswharrier3571
    @chriswharrier35712 жыл бұрын

    Curious to know if the plug from the cylinder six is in similar condition or worse? Good luck with the rebuild.

  • @thewatchman1078
    @thewatchman10782 жыл бұрын

    i feel so sorry for you about this with summer comming thought u might get a road trip organised to Modena via fantastic Alpine roads in Influenzo

  • @autoavids
    @autoavids2 жыл бұрын

    Years ago I did an engine flush with similar stuff and the smoking got worse afterwards. It turned out to be bad rings. Looks like a rebuild is inevitable, sorry mate. Best of luck 👍

  • @joelaurieri9065

    @joelaurieri9065

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed needs a bottom end rebuild sleeves rings etc

  • @alistairblane9458

    @alistairblane9458

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eating pasta is definitely the best option 😉

  • @mattc9875
    @mattc9875 Жыл бұрын

    I use Liquid Moly in my engines too, I still have to notice any mpg inxrease but the noise of the cam/valves in my big GM V8s has improved a bit..as long as it does deliver the viscosity support to the engine that's all I need (plus I only use synthetic oil).

  • @Mtnflying
    @Mtnflying2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @thomasbell6655
    @thomasbell66552 жыл бұрын

    Living the dream Jack!!!

  • @drew6090
    @drew6090 Жыл бұрын

    Used liquid moly lubricant stuff like oil additive more protection on moving parts. Did make my bmw running alot quieter and smoother

  • @Mr69abody
    @Mr69abody2 жыл бұрын

    So I had a Chevy 4.3 v6 that I needed to replace the head gasket on. One of the things i did was soak the tops of the pistons and lifters (what I was really trying to flush) with PB Blastr. Now the truck says 225000 miles but it looked like newer heads. And possibly a reman block. Cannot confirm the later. But I know the PB made it through the rings because we found it in the crank case (has a very distinct smell). Now that its back together it idles soooo smooth. Which not a normal trait of these engines. No smoke, great compression. So its worth a shot. Pull the plugs. Use a funnel and fill the cylinders with PB and let it sit. Longer the better. Top off the fluid as needed each day. What do you have to loose? Good luck

  • @KiwiStag74
    @KiwiStag742 жыл бұрын

    Hiya Jack. Firstly, my apologies as this has turned out to be quite a long post! But please read on, because I think it's relevant. One thing I noticed with those additives is that sometimes they can take a little while to work as much as they say on the tin. Give the Influenzo a few more trips out before you call this one - he looked like he was smoking less afterward than he was before the LiquiMoly went in.....so maybe it's the same with that stuff. The rings are a little worn in my Triumph 2500S, so I do a flush before each oil change, then she gets the Penrite HPR-30 20w/60 oil, then an additive that increases the viscosity in the oil when it gets hot. I get the occasional puff on start-up now, but nothing else and best of all, good oil pressure when she;s warm. Mate - your Influenzo reminds me so much of Stacey my Stag. I so feel your pain..... I have always wanted a Triumph Stag and this one was a beaut. Little did I know how much she would test my resolve. In the first 3 months, I learned so much about her that had been hidden because she had obviously sat for a few years longer than the previous owner had let on and drove beautifully to begin with. Over the 700-odd miles up the country to home, I learned that the alternator would occasionally stop working, not to fill her up over three quarters of a tank of petrol or else I would lose a fair bit out the cap because it didn't seal, the gearbox Overdrive unit leaked onto the exhausts, the speedometer cable was not retained properly and was also sitting on the exhaust, the clutch return spring became weak and I had to hold the pedal up with my left foot so it didn't constantly put a small amount of pressure on the plate, the windscreen washers didn't work.....and by the time I had driven the full distance, the suspension had freed up again and I was able to tell that the shocks were shot. I sorted these fairly quickly, but it seemed that every time I fixed one thing (or replaced a tired seal, broken lens, or other cosmetic improvement), something else would break or stop working. I was out on a drive in June of 2019 a week after her being in the shop for 6 weeks with her latest list of needs - getting the exhaust replaced, the carb reconditioned, the valley gasket replaced and repairs to the clutch slave and mount after a mishap with a LARGE pothole - and I had the top down, cruising along on a sunny winter's day with that famed burble in my ears......put my foot on the brake to slow for a corner - and it went straight to the floor. I nursed the car home on the handbrake and parked it in the garage.......where she sat for 21 months because I was so annoyed with her. I got her master cylinder sleeved with stainless in October 2021, bled the brakes and she was away again. However, she then decided it was time to destroy (and I MEAN destroy) the drag strut bushes, so I did them and all the hardware that goes with it. She blew a headlight bulb, so I took the opportunity to upgrade the headlight lenses to Hella units and replace all headlight bulbs, and a dead courtesy lamp bulb on the T-bar inside. Replacing a headlight bulb involves taking the entire grille out (more or less) if it's high beam, so perfect timing. Then the OD started kicking in and out like the solenoid was playing up. Turned out to be a bad connection caused by a broken wire in the gearstick harness, so I replaced that. There were a couple more minor incidents, but they were fixed easy enough, but I also replaced the last of the body and hood seals I had been getting round to doing, thinking maybe she would be nice and lay off the repair demands for a while. It was not to be..... Shortly after that and on a trip down country, she started developing a bad miss. From my troubleshooting at the destination, it pointed at the distributor's internals (which I know are getting tired) and lack of mechanical advance. However, not to be outdone, on the way home, I was 26km from where I had been staying with family and I was being flagged down by the driver behind me. I started to pull over and then the rear wheels just locked up and she slid off the road. The quill shaft housing on the front of the diff had broken away and the diff had rocked forward, tightening the handbrake cable over the trailing arms and causing the slide..........but she was on fire under there as well! The quill shaft housing coming off had allowed the diff to dump hot diff oil on the hotter exhaust and it had spontaneously combusted. Sooooooo glad I have an extinguisher! So, car cannot be driven and I am in the middle of nowhere. Called the AA and got her brought back home and over to my mechanic's yard. He's looking to retire on what I have been spending on this car.....but I digress. Turns out that the retaining nut on the front of the pinion shaft came off, destroyed the splines and seal on the pinion shaft, destroyed the mating coupling to the quill shaft housing and the splines on the quill shaft itself, then jammed them all, destroying the housing as well. Good news was that the crown wheel, planetary and spider gears were all fine as no detritus got in there, but all seals and front bearings were destroyed. So.....nearly $3k (in my currency) later (about 1500 pounds sterling) and I have had enough and am calling it quits. Yes, I love the Stag, but the reality of owning my dream car has been a nightmare. Somebody else can take it from here.....although I have nearly replaced every damn thing except the engine and gearbox now! When I said I feel your pain, I meant it! Enough is enough though and there has to be a line drawn somewhere when a car is costing you more in frustration than you are getting back in therapeutic drives in the countryside. When she comes back from the shop, she's going down the road. I am not going to tot up exactly how much she has cost me in the past 5 years in new parts, time and the occasional trip to the mechanic when I cannot do the job myself, but with the bills I remember off the top of my head, it would be well north of $15k (7.5k GBP) - a pittance compared to the Influenzo, but by the same token, Stacey is not worth the amount the Influenzo is, so on scale it is comparatively similar. I have definitely spent more on her than I paid for her 5 years ago and I think enough is enough. I will still have a 79 Triumph 2500S (on of the last ever assembled here in NZ) and a 77 Mini that has been somewhat customised and modified, so they are enough to handle between them, I think! Good luck though, Jack and all the best. I mean it, mate!

  • @martinblack5021
    @martinblack50212 жыл бұрын

    Looked like grey smoke from GoPro when revving/driving so maybe unburnt fuel? But blue smoke anytime means an engine out/strip. Understand why you are putting it off but looks like the time has come. Great vids

  • @themessenger5868
    @themessenger58682 жыл бұрын

    Well smoke present all the time...low compression in at least one cylinder...= Rings in my mind. Rebuild and enjoy !

  • @svgitana2499
    @svgitana2499 Жыл бұрын

    I swear that car design just does not get old!! Every single time I see it, it just takes my breath away!! I know it’s a problem child but damn it if it’s not just the best looking design out there! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    Жыл бұрын

    It is very pretty!! And good job too.. otherwise I’d have burned it by now! 😁

  • @svgitana2499

    @svgitana2499

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Number27 lol or at least grab a big hammer and go to town on the engine!!

  • @dofbeer
    @dofbeer2 жыл бұрын

    I had an old Porsche in for test a couple of weeks back, failed with a similar complaint. We did the STP treatment, 6 runs of 30 minutes over 2 days. Significant reduction in emissions and no visible smoke. We gave it a dose of the leave in Seafoam and off went a happy chap. Could be worth trying if the engine isn't stripped down.

  • @mikeharries308
    @mikeharries3082 жыл бұрын

    I have used BG ERP and gained 27% overall on compression on one vehicle, but that said, if the engine has anything more than coking around the piston rings, you need to fix the fault. The BG treatment transformed the vehicle I had.

  • @breene782
    @breene7822 жыл бұрын

    Love the 308 my fav ferrari always wanted to drive one its the car that got me into Italian cars

  • @salalatzo
    @salalatzo2 жыл бұрын

    Great vids! Wasn’t your compression good before you replaced / refreshed the heads ? If this started after the head were rebuilt , take them off , there’s something a miss.

  • @perarduaadastra873
    @perarduaadastra8732 жыл бұрын

    I had a 328 GTB. It was fast in 1st & 2nd. Pretty to look at.

  • @LesSharp
    @LesSharp2 жыл бұрын

    You could use a bore scope to see how the cylinders look eh. If the bores look good, especially #6, try the trick mentioned below. Drain out that fresh oil and store it. Fill all cylinders with ATF through the plug holes and leave it in there for a few days, topping up as needed. Let everything drain out via the sump. After a few ways, stop adding ATF. Leave it overnight or a day until the fluid stops dripping out the drain plug, then with the plugs out just bump the starter to clear the cylinders. Put maybe a liter of your oil back in and let that flush the sump pan out. Refit the drain plug, refill your oil, add some fresh to level, and then see what you're looking at.

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser65412 жыл бұрын

    If it wasn't for the Influenzo's misbehavior, Jack wouldn't have much material for videos. How interesting can you make footage of a machine behaving perfectly? The mysteries and bug hunts are what make most maintenance/motoring channels. I haven't bothered to check, but I think there are a lot of 308 engine rebuilds documented on KZread. Probably worth watching for research.

  • @gazzafloss

    @gazzafloss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can't disagree with any of that!

  • @eze8970
    @eze89702 жыл бұрын

    Worth a try Jack, and you're eliminating causes each time, you will get there, it's all about the little victories to keep you sane! Nice to see your Dad, a very polite gentleman doing his damage limitation comments, more shouting & hand gestures next time please!