How George Hotz Hacked Self Driving
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Fun fact why he’s called Geohot. He went to my high school, and when they give you an email it’s the first 3 letters of your first and last name. (Geo)rge (Hot)z. If your email name was pronounceable it would be adopted as a nickname within the school. Mine was Jalgon.
This guy is a massive underdog, can't wait to see him shine!
@Mid.G.
7 ай бұрын
he has an awesome channel too, if you're into it.
@hagestad
6 ай бұрын
This did not aged well. 4:90 driving in recommended car that is now impossible to insure since 5 year old can steal it.
@griffina5192
5 ай бұрын
@@hagestad tf are you saying
@j4s0n67
4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately like he said his company and he is more like android, ensuring electric freedom but at the same time that concept really makes their progress slow, and always will be an underdog, and like he said at the end of the vid even though elon have the bigger pie, it still taste sweet as hell haha
@eduardjsx
4 ай бұрын
@@firstdayversion1015basically what you’re saying is, someone is right only because they share your view? 🤣
I respect Hotz, because he is one of the very few who doesn't try to enslave the users.
@kristapszs1
4 ай бұрын
@5:58 Dude literally said that buyers work for them :D
@madmax404
4 ай бұрын
@@kristapszs1 Lol. Voluntary slavery (crowdsourcing) is cool though.
@LumosityGeek-wz4fe
3 ай бұрын
@@madmax404 literally every major product is voluntary slavery, you dont want to be a slave for Tiktok, X or Facebook then dont use it.
It's great to see one of the greatest minds of our time devoting himself for good. Both in the interview footage and while talking with John, he smiles when saying wither "people can just download the code and add it to old tesla" and "our software is free". He really sounds and seems like a technologic force for good. I'm not his target audience, but I love it that he's doing what he's doing and how he's doing what he's doing.
@semtex6412
6 ай бұрын
lol u obviously haven't known much about him yet. yea he's relatively a "force for good" in the general sense of the word but not because he's good. it's just that he's not bad. he has a nice life. crime (or anything bad) wouldn't get him anything.
@themodfather9382
6 ай бұрын
'one of the greatest minds of our time' = hilarious statement
@dropelaves
6 ай бұрын
@@themodfather9382 Great, buddy! Glad I was able to amuse you, have a nice day for the rest of your life now!
@themodfather9382
6 ай бұрын
@@dropelaves no
geohot is one of the big reasons I switched my career track to security work -- it's fundamentally liberating to see the world (the technical substrate that underpins modern life at the very least) through his eyes.
I remember hearing about Clip a long time ago but did not know Hotz was the one behind it! Loved this video, the combination of your reporting and interview was awesome.
George Hotz embodies that line from Iron Man: "Tony Stark Was Able To Build This In A Cave With A Box Of Scraps" Absolute legend of a man.
I remember that kid….he’s brilliant. Good video, wish it was longer and in more depth. Awesome to know he is still at it ❤ I’ve been ghost watching long enough, I’m now Subscribed.
@Utoko
7 ай бұрын
as he mentioned there are 3 2h+ interviews on lex friedman podcast with Hotz.
@eduardgi7780
7 ай бұрын
He streams on twitch every now and then
I worked near by. Would shout out to Geo like a crazy fan 😂 was very happy that he decided to bring his company to San Diego
That guy looks super chill. Wish him success.
Comma user since 2019. I love george hotz.
Probably the smartest guy I've ever come across. God damn, and he uses it for good. Keep this man alive forever please.
most requested video from my side, and u finally made it, thanku john. ( i requested this video about a few month ago..)
"can it buy me an AI girl friend" bro knows his priorities straight man this is true sigma
Quote from George: Can money buy me an AI girlfriend?😂
"i dont care if elon has a bigger share of the pie as long the pie taste awesome.." spoken like a true legend
Im so happy to hear someone this smart and capable say "money cant really buy anything"... excited to see what the future holds!
I want 45 minutes video on this kind of topics , not the other ones you usually do.
It's fascinating, I hope more and more people think about innovation this way, as of 2023, still a lot of companies try to keep the old business model, where they sell a new product every 1-3 year with little to no innovation, and as we already have AI tools now, upgradable autopilot feature must be default for new cars and I think any company that doesn't include this feature in base model let's say, should at least add integration ports
'if you give a toy to a hacker,the first thing he'll do is take it apart to figure out how it works ' Jamie zawinski ... John you are the best ❤❤
You're gunna get so much hate about this being an ad, but as someone very familiar with Hotz and a regular i think you did a good job - i learnt a few new things about him from this video and your delivery felt authentic. 🤷
@arpadszerzo3862
7 ай бұрын
I don't think he's gonna get any significant hate. It's perfectly natural to be personally excited about a product / company / project that looks genuine. I really hate pushy ads, and this video genuinely made me interested in checking out his products and potentially buying them in future.
I had the comma 2 and it was brilliant! It didn't work on my new telluride, and the kia has a great self driving assist. Good to see you think it's still worth it.
@Ruffi0
5 ай бұрын
It’s evolved beyond assist.
"I'd rather Elon Musk have a much bigger share of the pie than me as long as the pie tastes awesome" respect
real journalism! thank you!
Your channel deserves way more subscribers then it currently has
Always high quality video
How have I never heard about this... Good video!
@abdulr2084
7 ай бұрын
because George refuses to do any marketing and not even review samples to popular KZreadrs.
Thank you John, for featuring GeoHot in your series. He's a brilliant and revolutionary figure, he’s the very definition of a mad scientist.
@user-fl9nf6wm9s
6 ай бұрын
I thought I was the only Kenyan who loves geo
@reinhardtcollins2446
4 ай бұрын
Kenyans oyeee
I've had a comma 2 in my 17 Honda Civic and I love it. Looking to get a Comma 3X soon.
Thats cool af dude greetings from San Diego
he is more persistent than most, almost obsessive when it comes to cracking a problem, but his work is understandable if you study it
Crazy! I think our cartoon narrator "Sticky" will have much more to say about him in one of our future documentaries!
Geo hot is a legit god in the scene. Much respect for the man.
If only shareholders of companies acted like George instead of acting like sharks, we'd probably be at least 5 years ahead technologically
Great video
John man you used to do awesome stories. Why are all your videos becoming ads of companies of your friend group? This was an awesome ad though. Excited about the future.
George go all in on autopilot , self driving vehicles . Automation is everywhere, eventually there will be flying cars. And they will land on flat roofs and use an elevator to get down into the building. Dr. X
The video is discussing George Hotz, also known as geohot, and his work in developing self-driving car technology. The video covers his background, including his hacking of the iPhone and the PlayStation 3, and his current work on the comma 3x device. The comma 3x is a device that can be installed in a car to enable self-driving capabilities. The video also discusses the potential risks and benefits of artificial intelligence and self-driving cars, as well as the future of the industry.
George Hortz is a genius pure & Simple
Where can you get the "END TO END" cap?
what a guy!!! genius! really cool
I can't find the app. Please send me a link. Im sold where do I sign.
Protect this man at ALL COSTS......
love his pie analogy
Great intro video. can you do a more deep dive on where/how the 3X trains its AI model and also a demo of it in city traffic? So far this seems more of "a hack" to a car's existing cruise control system versus a bottoms up self driving system. Can you try it on another car brand, one that isn't recommended by the company.
@emeraldbonsai
5 ай бұрын
The ones that are recommended are because they have egough sensors to be able to do self driving. It just hijacks the sensor outputs
@vatzcar
4 ай бұрын
@@emeraldbonsai No, it doesn't. It just sends commands to the CAN bus. Openpilot is still a vision-based system and its vision is from the cameras of Comma devices. That's why it's still Level 2. Level 3 requires environmental awareness so it can do fully autonomous driving. For that Comma devices will require more camera inputs to build a 360° view of the car. Currently, Comma 3x has 360° view of the device only. Recommended cars are recommended because those cars allow more programmatic control (commands through CAN bus) of the car and Openpilot is more compatible with the system of those cars.
Explain how you can connect a device and take over steering, braking and accelerating ? When did this become massively available ? What port does it use ? (OBD2?)
@abdulr2084
7 ай бұрын
Comma uses mad-in-middle attack/control. It sits between car camera and ECU and sends command to steer and control gas/brakes to your car if there's lane keep assist system in your car. Its still referred to as dev kit which is why it isnt "massively" available. They are pretty well known in tech community and do no marketing. Most people using it know know its limitation as a L2 system (driver MUST ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION)
@kristijanspionjak8850
7 ай бұрын
Most of the cars support drive-by-wire (DbW) since 2016. That's how comma controls brake, shift, steer, and throttle
Finally a video on Hotz! Maybe another video on Tinygrad in some time!
his livestreams are super technical but a fun watch nonetheless. Cool guy, very smart
@RashadPrince
4 ай бұрын
I definitely try to watch them in the past and just get lost after hours and hours of not knowing what's going on 😅 But yes they are fun to watch ... In the background 🤓
Well done. As always, your video actually showed me something I hadn't already seen everywhere on KZread.
Wow as long as the pie taste awesome. I want to think like that
Wow I remember watching this guys videos from iPhone hack to the Sony diss track.
does it text you when your hyundai is stolen?
Hi John, could you make a research and a Video about RImac, the car Nevera, the Technology, and the latest project he is working on the robotaxi?
My man!
I know I'm not the only one who clicked this video thinking Hotz actually hacked into another company's self drive system 😬😶
Thank you John and George for the insight. When I got it right, the vehicle needs to have OBD (which I standard since around 20 years). But it must be possible - to control (power) steering and - the brakes through the OBD interface. The comma hardware gets the images from the road and from the driver, and some information like speed through OBD. Then it gives - directions to steering, - acceleration, - deceleration and - brakes. Correct? Are there any special requirement as e.g. low cost Dacia (I think all of Renault) is not supported? Are there reasons why some of the Japanese cars are better supported?
@hjjr31
7 ай бұрын
Yeah that's pretty much how it works, but the Comma hardware also taps into the radar systems in supported cars too. Toyota as an example adds safety features as standard even on basic models in the United States. Things like emergency braking, lane keep assist, and smart/adaptive cruise control provide computer control for brakes, steering, and acceleration/radar sensors. I personally ran a Comma unit on a Chevy Bolt EV before I sold the car. It was a very nice system.
@dunnetahl
6 ай бұрын
@@hjjr31 thanks for this information. Since you have some experience with the system, can you comment on how often you had to make interventions or manual takeover when using the system? This video seems to suggest you can just punch in an address and the car will drive you there with no intervention, which seems to put it ahead of Tesla's FSD system. Is this your experience or have I misinterpreted the video? Also, not sure if you know this at all, but how is a system this compact able to do so much better than Telsa FSD with a tiny fraction of the data and processing power of Tesla's fleet?
He looks like he hacked anger, based on that intimidating type of stare look, even though he's actually a nice guy. The womb does that to people.
Nice. This is impressive
Someone needs to try a cannonball run with this 😂
He is a legend
This guy is awesome
That was a cool video.
I have wanted full immersive reality for nearly 40 years. Since I first saw "VR" headsets.
I can't hear "Comma" and "Three" without thinking of Tres Commas. Damn good tequila.
You need to do a video on Alex Becker
Wow nice can you make more drive test with it
To be so smart and so stupid at the same time is really a marvel.
Wants a fully immersive VR ... hahahaha WE ARE IN IT ALREADY geez
Self driving would have to get to the point where the driver doesn’t pay attention at all before it’ll be better than driving actively.
What a cool guy
GNU/LINUX of machine driving? Would it be a right phrase?
@vaisakhkm783
7 ай бұрын
What you folks are talking about as "commaAI" is, in fact, GNU/commaAI, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus commaAI. CommaAI is not an autonomous driving system unto itself, but rather another crucial component of a fully functioning GNU autonomous driving platform made practical by the GNU core components, algorithms, and essential software components that constitute a comprehensive autonomous driving system as defined by the automotive industry standards. Many vehicle manufacturers utilize a modified version of the GNU/commaAI system every day, without realizing it. Through a unique series of developments, the version of the autonomous driving platform that is widely used today is often referred to as "commaAI," and many of its users are unaware that it is essentially the GNU autonomous driving system, developed by the GNU Autonomous Driving Project. There genuinely is a commaAI, and these individuals are implementing it, but it is just one part of the broader system they rely on. CommaAI is the self-driving technology: the software in the system that controls the vehicle's operations and responses to various driving scenarios. This self-driving technology is an essential part of an autonomous driving platform but can't function in isolation. It can only operate within the context of a complete autonomous driving system. CommaAI is commonly used in conjunction with the GNU autonomous driving system: the complete system is essentially GNU with commaAI integrated, or GNU/commaAI. All the so-called "commaAI" implementations are genuinely distributions of GNU/commaAI. Thanks for taking the time to collaborate with me, your friendly GNU+commaAI enthusiast, Richard Stallman
You tell us it's much better than the stock system without giving a single reason why.
you don't need a computer for self driving : you drive it your self ! ("self-driving")
How does it check the sides of the car when its merging? edit: Oh nevermind, its just for lane control
3 ай бұрын
It can use BSM.
This Tech is phenomenal & terrifying @ the same time what Elon Musk should reach out to him again for collaboration or a buy out.
He wants a super intelligent AI girlfriend and fully immersive VR... hmm, I wonder whats those two things for.
frick yes thank you
Autonomous vehicles, including self-driving taxis, promise a major leap forward in transportation. They're not just about convenience; they could significantly reduce accidents and fatalities with advanced autonomous braking systems. Contrary to concerns about economic impacts, autonomous taxis could thrive within capitalist systems, acting as 'self-operating employees' for their owners. These vehicles can offer round-the-clock service, maximizing utility and efficiency. This would not only enhance accessibility for users but could also decrease the number of cars on the road, leading to lower emissions and less congestion. Economically, autonomous taxis may cut operational costs, like driver wages and accident-related expenses, translating into savings for consumers through lower fares. The shift towards autonomous taxi fleets would demand a significant economic transition, including workforce retraining and infrastructure development. However, the potential for safer, more efficient, and greener transportation makes it a pursuit worth exploring.
he is the goat!
This is the second time I'm watching your video without putting it on 1.75X speed. What a brilliant mind of Goerge!
John was completely irresponsible for not letting that diss track play a little longer
I don't know how you do it, but somehow your videos are just more attention capturing then most others, but without all the bloating and click bait that most KZreadrs use, great vid.
@ryanreedgibson
7 ай бұрын
A large staff of talented people and writers. I have a history channel and it takes me 3 months to output a five minute video.
The one and only king of the world
While I don't think this has any chance of being on par with FSD considering Tesla's NN hardware and dojo, I do really like the free aspect of it. Hell, I do like the idea that I could theoretically do something super illegal like remotely "driving" a car with little intervention to another town. Or adding my own UI on top, or even integrating the thing to whatever home automation / synchronized dance thing I want, as it's already providing the connected car interface on a piece of hardware you properly own and control. That said, I don't really dislike Tesla's AI approach one bit. They have their right to keep their stuff as nipped in the bud as possible while blazing a trail and being the first to normalize your car turning in to a fully automated robotaxi worker when you don't need it. Can't get the kind of numbers they get while being libre. Elon is overly optimistic sure, but that for me is just a good-meaning thing like valve time.
That’s the obd2 port
i once got an interview with them, and i rejected myself, the questions 🥵🥵🥵🥵
Justify feature. If the vehicle makes an expected lane change for no reason you can tell it. You did not have to change lanes, can you justify why?
Im not sure what it is but this guy seems primed for a future scandal involving a promise for a product that doest work. Him repeating basically verbatim what sam altman said about ai being a computer revolution rather than a single revolution was eerie and seems like someone trying to copy a certain look of a previously successful person much like how Elisabeth holmes did so copying steve jobs.
I think he'd have many more investors if there was no chance that he would get sued--- instead, there is an almost 100% chance that he WILL. Just as Tesla has.
@abdulr2084
7 ай бұрын
comma is an L2 system. The driver assumes all responsibility of any accidents. The comma device comes with a dashcam software installed which cannot control your car. You have to explicitly install the version that can drive it.
Comma AI has drastically improved the quality of my life. Shame that George doesn’t take simple feedback though. I suggested that he make the device in white to prevent overheating. They still sell in black and I’m on my second unit. First one died due to heat.
@tomocallaghan4672
7 ай бұрын
Man get a cover made out of silicone. Simple
@aslancem
5 ай бұрын
Pretty much everything in dashboards and steering wheels etc in cars are black because black is a neutral color that helps reduce glare and reflections, which can be dangerous/distracting while driving esp at night. If the device was white it would be lot more likely to see it's reflection on the windshield which is just a no-no for car stuff overall.
Most technology innovations are labor augmenting, not labor replacing.
Glad he's getting coverage.
Could he please hold his hands still?
Its CRAZY how NHTSA will ban Teslas from making a fart sound while in Drive but be perfectly okay with OPEN SOURCE ai software being installed into vehicles and controlling both acceleration and steering. What security measures are in place for people who want to hack commas and use them for evil like targeting pedestrians perhaps? I am all for comma I actually would love to buy one and I think its a genius idea to sell direct to consumers so you can bypass legal compliance stuff but that is also what im afraid of... anyone else?
so cool
How much did you get paid for this video
Can install this in my tesla?
Didnt his self driving company fail? Hasnt Telsa's so far?
No harness for either of my vehicles...
Can’t wait for him to hack all the encryption coming to CB