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This show was so realistic, without being preachy, and was ahead of its time. It's a shame that it was released in the late 90's, since nostalgia for the 80's wouldn't really come to fruition until around the 2010's.

@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254

Жыл бұрын

I thought it came in the 2000s

@trinaq

Жыл бұрын

@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 It started airing in September 1999, and was cancelled over a year later in October 2000.

@elizrebezilmadommdo1662

Жыл бұрын

True. It would've been 100% a hit if it came around when Stranger Things came out on Netflix. Right show, wrong time.

@colehartel7206

Жыл бұрын

Although at the time it came out, the aesthetic looked close enough to late '70s rather than the stereotypical mid-late '80s style that was considered highly cringeworthy, and '70s was still considered very much cool (take That '70s Show as a case in point).

@mastersnet18

Жыл бұрын

Yea I agree it was too early for 80’s nostalgia. That’s didn’t reach its peak until the 2010’s.

I still can’t believe F&G only got one season. I’m a teenager myself and I personally think it’s one of the very few teen shows that actually FEELS like a teen show.

@sadieperkins910

Жыл бұрын

I was so mad that there was only one season owl

@scattysafari7742

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I'm 55 & was Sam's age in 1981.I can say it perfectly captures what teens were like in '81.

I really adore the opening scene of this show. It depicts a jock and his cheerleader professing their love to each other, and just when you think "Oh, it's another one of THOSE corny teen dramas" , the camera pans underneath the bleachers, showing the REAL stars of the show!

One small thing I also really appreciated that doesn’t get talked about enough was how normal their clothes looked. They aren’t flashy, they don’t look brand new. They look like the kind of clothes your mom bought you at JC Penney. So many shows and movies really exaggerate the wardrobe of the 80s and make it seem like everyone was either dressed like Miami Vice or came out of a Jane Fonda workout video. This show didn’t do that and it’s little details like that that really make it special.

@ElianaRosalind

Жыл бұрын

Aka me watching Pretty Little Liars as a tween being like?? Does no one sees them how they dress as 16 yr olds going to school?? You do you, ofc, but even years later I'm still a bit jaded that growing up the magical age of '16' was always shown as mature af, and clothes def had a role in that .... and when I hit 16 I felt like a child compared to what was shown on screen

Having been 14 in 1981, I can testify to the realism of this show. It's still my absolute favorite, and it's a crime there was only one season.

@mullaoslo

Жыл бұрын

I agree but at least the season we got is VERY rewatchable as just a long movie, there's no big unresolved cliffhangers outside of "I wonder what this character does next" and becuase it was canceled almost the entire cast went on to bigger things.. So as much as I agree we should have gotten more, at least a lot of good came from the shows just one season

My cousin was one of the geeks, the cast still does meet ups periodically and it's super wholesome.

@NathanielBurks

Жыл бұрын

Martin??

@bingostarr5455

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanielBurks Harris Trinsky, aka the stoner lookin one who gives advice and is the last one to speak in the video

@NathanielBurks

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@@bingostarr5455 oh that’s cool haha

@yespls4184

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@@bingostarr5455 AHHH HE WAS ONE OF NY FAVES!

@V3l0C1TY.

Жыл бұрын

Omg bro no wayyy, hahaha his character was amazing, tell brody i said his character rocked

Freaks & Geeks also has one of the best, most nuanced and heartfelt storylines featuring an intersex character, not just of its time, but to this day. It truly blows my mind that Seth Rogan had an intersex love interest in the late 90s that wasn't treated like a homophobic or transphobic joke.

@sadieperkins910

Жыл бұрын

I loved that episode so much!!

@-Scrapper-

Жыл бұрын

What's intersex

@indieflopqueen

Жыл бұрын

@@-Scrapper- a person with sex characteristics that aren't completely male or female

@-Scrapper-

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@@indieflopqueen she doesn't have male characritics anymore tho

@indieflopqueen

Жыл бұрын

@@-Scrapper- you're right, i should've specified born with :)

I think there really is a lesson to be taken here: any story that is told with compassionate honesty for its characters and their stories will always, at some point or another, be an enduring hit. Audiences are so much smarter than executives give them credit for, and the shows that develop cult followings are often ones with rich complexity and people who you have 'seen' in your real life. Its honestly shows like this that make me so happy to be a writer 😊

Let’s not forget John Daley (played Sam); who went on to star in Bones and write Spider man-Homecoming. He writes, produces and directs and is a major player in Hollywood

I LOVED the series, it was a breath o fresh air, it didn't glorify, overexaggerate, or glamorize high school life, it was so nuanced, so level headed, so endearing, and hence, wonderful, because of it's simplicity. This is my most favorite teen show of all time.

If their was one show I wish we could go back in time and make more of it would be Freaks and Geeks. The writers were amazing and they had an A list cast without even realizing it. Freaks and Geeks is a show that most people can relate too. For better or for worse most people are the Freaks and Geeks. A lot of people do come from a rough family background, forced to deal with very real and adult level problems. It was nice watching a show that represented us as real people for once.

It’s a crime Freaks and Geeks only got one season

@trinaq

Жыл бұрын

Preach, it seemed to have come out way too early, and probably would have lasted longer today, where there's more fondness for nostalgia themed coming of age shows.

One of the best depictions of the teenage years. And I also love the fact that the central conflict, having a female protagonist, isn't about a boy she has a crush on (that's only a part of the story), but a deep existential crisis and a search of meaning and identity. And Millie, who wasn't mentioned on the video, is a nuanced portrayal as well.

@johannaelloso9418

Жыл бұрын

At first I saw Millie was one of those awkward kids who was sheltered by their parents because my entire friend group was like that and I found her annoying, but then I got to the episode where Lindsay rejoined the Mathletes and I wished I had a sweet supportive friend like Millie. I'm also glad how like you said, despite the show having a female protagonist, her main drama is never fighting her female friends!

The most accurate representation of my teen years (as was Everything Sucks! from Netflix) and both cancelled after just one season.

@kittykittybangbang9367

Жыл бұрын

Why was it canceled?

@mikakick7180

Жыл бұрын

supposedly Everything Sucks! was cancelled for low viewership (which is bs because the small fanbase it did have loved and raved about the show), but Netflix has cancelled a lot of their series with sapphic leads. it might be coincidence but it still looks weird. here's a list of all of the queer shows (I know of) that Netflix has cancelled: -I am Not Okay With This -Everything Sucks -One Day at a Time -Grand Army (kinda queer, still covered many different issues, especially socioeconomic storylines) -First Kill As for Freaks and Geeks, I don't know why,, I forget if they said why in this video lol. But Everything Sucks! was a favorite of mine cause of how scrappy and unapologetically teenage it was.

@adienbal6391

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have to say everything sucks truly reminded me of freaks and geeks. Both visually and the in earnesty they show

Freaks and Geeks together with My So Called Life are two shows that could have defined a generation if they were kept on air.

Like they say, F&G really captured the qualms of adolescence. Other so called teen shows were either preachy or portrayed the lives of twenty somethings in a high school setting. I seriously mourn that this show got canceled, it was so complex, real and so full of heart and compassion for the characters and teenagers in general. Think I'll just watch it again.

I watched this show for the first time when I was 14-15 yrs old and latched onto it for dear life because I saw myself so much in Lindsay, I was a huge geek with that same rebel streak and I really enjoyed the way she was able to exist among both groups and figure out who she was alongside myself struggling with the same issues. I'll always have a special place in my heart for this show

This is one of my favourite shows of all times, I'm so glad you talked about it and showed how incredibly nuanced and fun it was.

That's the best teen show ever. I'm fourteen and I can admit that freaks and geeks from late 90s is more relatable for me than euphoria and the stuff people filming nowadays.

My so called Life is the best teenage TV series I've seen. Freaks and Geeks comes in a tight second. Veronica Mars comes in 3rd.

I graduated in 1982 and that show is pretty much exactly how things were.

@gbeachbum464

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Same.

Being canceled early was the best thing to happen to the show. Good stories arent told over 150 hours. Even The Sopranos has some lenghts. But this one has a perfect arc, a satisfying open ending and could only havo gotten worse from there on.

Finished watching this show last night for the very first time. All I can say is that it's a DAMN shame this never continued. It was definitely ahead of its time. Very entertaining, reliable (at least for me), and very honest. It also gave me so much nostalgia.

I feel like Freaks & Geeks and the beloved rock movie, Almost Famous capture that feeling of nostalgia in such a well-done and honest/truthful way that allows the characters to have more nuance and complexities that make them fascinating. I also think Empire Records does a quite a good job as well. While the movie takes place in the present, you still see the stereotyped misfits like the art kid, the weird kid, the depressed punk kid, the popular kid, and the one who "sleeps around" show a lot more complexities in their own lives which is why they love working at the record store because it's their home away from home where they can feel accepted and understood

I can't emphasize enough how amazing it was to see people like Kim's family on TV (or, at least, on the DVD since NBC refused to air that episode.) I grew up around people like that in the Midwest but never saw that shit depicted anywhere before. It was somehow validating in a way all the John Hughes movies never were.

I watched this a few years after it aired. I honestly think 2004 would have been better to have launched this. 2003 reapply started the 80s throwbacks, and we started to see more teen shows that treated their audience with respect (Veronica Mars, Everwood)

This was more 70's than 80's nostalgia with the music and culture in the show- I mean it was set in 1980 right at the turn of the decade.

This show really felt so much like the 80s I experienced. John Daley looked exactly like my little brother did in middle school. It was uncanny. I love this show.

Freaks and Geeks was one of the best written TV shows at the time, with amazing character development and realistic looking teens. That's my theory why it didn't last; we Americans don't like that much honesty. LOL

I just rewatched it for the 500th time but the first time in a few years.. This show makes stranger things look like a parody of the 80s.. I grew up in Norway a few years after the characters in this show but THIS is how I remember it..

For me, growing up in die he 90s, the show I could identify with most was My So-Called Life. But freaks and geeks is fantastic as well.

This show is so relatable even if I was neither a freak nor a geek in school. Does anyone have a recommendation that can keep up with this show?

@m.donez8

Жыл бұрын

Kind of different with the plot and more modern, but I enjoyed On My Block. It has a similar vibe

@m.donez8

Жыл бұрын

also That 70s Show for sure!

@x-y-n-h

Жыл бұрын

thanks! I only know 70s show and I love it, though I must say there are many toxic traits that get normalized (unlike in freaks & geeks)

@perttu976

Жыл бұрын

My So Called Life is a true classic that bears comparison to F&G

@naddarr1

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Firefly isn't anything like Freaks and Geeks but it's another show that is deserving of a lot more love then it initially received. It has strong female characters without drawing any attention to it. It melded Sci-fi and western in a way that has never really been repeated.

I HAAAAAATE that this show was cancelled after literally one season. It’s a damn crime

I wish this video was longer. Maybe a series. Could talk about this show forever

Not a reboot but a sequel with the geeks and freaks as parents now!

That is why I can't watch Euphoria. If it's about teens and high school - it got to look like Freaks & Geeks or the movie Eighth Grade. Unpolished. And tender.

love this video! this used to be one of my fave shows in hs :)

Diggin the new outro, looks sleek n clean

Insane how much talent started out in this show !!!

This was one of my favourite shows. I used to watch whenever i actually saw it on but did miss several episodes due to whatever reason. Then it was just gone. I love the fact that until recent years and its rise in popularity, I didn't even know it was set in the 80s! That's some pretty slick shit. All I knew is I was relating to both groups and if you remove all the era specific references(like I must have just missed because of erratic schedule), the themes hold up 💜!

I mean it was all white lol, but it was still ahead of its time in many other ways

Aside from the incredible character development, the plots of each episode were so funny, fleshed out and all-around entertaining. This show was a pure masterpiece.

I remember when this show came out. In real time it was good. I was so confused why it got cancelled

I’d love a video on the casual misogyny in shows like Love Island

Hi! I’m a huge fan of the channel, I was wondering if you would be interested in doing a video on The Orphan, now that the prequel is out. I’d love to see your Take on it!

Freaks and Geeks is one of the best tv shows imo and one of my favorites. The characters and everything felt so real. I hate that it was cancelled.

Injustice!!!! I literally wanted more of the show &&&&& can we talk about the playlist of the show Chefs kiss 💋!

I love this show. In a way, I'm kinda glad that this show only had one season. Why? It could've ended up worse.

The purpose of me starting this show was just for some cheesy oldie teenage drama that also covers a "pick-me" / "cool girl" story, a girl who tries to become one of the cool kids. But it did not turn out that way, instead it just annoyed me way too much cuz it was too realistic. Especially Lin's dynamics with Nick made me so anxious because it directly gave the awkwardness and the posible discomfort of a first relationship in one's teens. I also adore how natural and neutral she depiction is. If they put us through unrealistically dramatic and loud high school drama, we probably wouldn't be this poked. But for example when Linsday is called out for breaking the friend group or the way Daniel faked a cry and Linsday called him our for manipulating her and then him manipulating her even more, AND the fact that she still remains friends with him even after the realisation and her hysterical laughter.. all of those stuff are extremely familiar and gives the straight discomfort to you. But also the beautiful things that happen are not exaggerated. They happen and you feel flattered. İt's a joy to watch this masterpiece but nothing like I expected.

You forgot to add Rashida Jones as the future superstar that this show provided

@natashafigueroa9198

Жыл бұрын

I just caught a glimpse of her! Totally forgot she was in it.

I will forever regret that show being cancelled, it was soooo gooood. I ve watched it at least 5 or 6 times over at this point. I wish they would reboot it with the characters being grown and showing what they became and have their kids be freaks and geeks and show how THAT looks a few decades later

can you do one about mscl !?! like freaks and geeks mscl depicts its characters with nuance and doesn’t regress into stereotypes

Eagerly awaiting the Better call Saul video

That one guy (Harvey, I think his name was) certainly acted like a bridge between Lindsey's group and Sam's group. While he spent most of his time with Sam, Bill, and Neal, he had some hidden messages for Daniel and the other burnouts, which I think had truth to them. He was right about the dark path consuming us if we continue down it. The path to fame and fortune can make us cast a blind eye to what is really important, like friends and family. The path to popularity often clouds our judgement between friends and pawns, and the common sense to tell the two apart. Go far enough down the path, and we may pass the point of no return without realizing it until it is too late. Daniel nearly passed that point of no return in the 15th episode, but came to his senses just in time and returned to Kim. I don't think he would have been happy being in a relationship with the goth girl, even though they had initial chemistry in the beginning, provided she wasn't already in a relationship with another guy. The goth look also wasn't his true self. It was like a persona he built for himself to let people know he existed. Sam and Cindy were a good example of a spark leading to nowhere. Sam had a crush on Cindy throughout most of the series, and it wasn't until she ended things with her previous boyfriend that she showed actual interest in him. But once they actually started dating, I think he saw that she was using him as a rebound or a side dude, and he didn't like it. And then that relationship went up in smoke. I felt bad for Cindy because she looked like good girlfriend material, but I think she should have taken more time between her break-up and her asking Sam out. Then again, we don't know how many days passed between the two events. And finally, I kind of like the dynamic between Bill and Vicky, even though we didn't get to see a lot of them together, outside of the closet scene. I guess she hated the sight of him, his oversized glasses, and probably the way he dresses. Basically, cheerleaders like her see nerds/geeks like him as lesser beings who muddy the purity of the waters (kind of like how wealthy nobles saw poor farmers and shopkeepers who were trying to make a living throughout most of the previous millenium).

@JP-ve7or

Жыл бұрын

Sam and Cindy were supposed to go out in season 2, but Apatow learned the show was being canceled so pushed it into season 1. Understandable, but it still comes across a bit odd as the actor playing Sam just looked too young to have been of interest to Cindy.

@grahamdamberger7130

Жыл бұрын

@@JP-ve7or John Francis Daley looked about Sam's age or a bit younger (at least 12, maybe 13) while Cindy's actor was maybe 15. And yeah, it looked really unfortunate how their relationship crashed just after it began take-off. I want to see a remake of that show, even if it is only released in book format. (Stupid Fox Network Stooge).

I remember liking the show when it first aired. Might give it another look

I watched it when it first came out! It was my fave ❤️

I was raised by metalheads who's youth was the 80s and 90s. Now I'm a bourned out overachiver, anthropologist who's working at an anarchist, grassroot initiative for solidarity dinners.

Well from my perspective is that aspect of that time period also continued through the early to mid 1990s that was more based on the pestimistic outlook from the gen x perseption on the aesthetic of the 1980s but the realism part of the late 1990s was more based on the outlook of the nostalgia that we have for the 1980s was more positive rather than negative because gen x had much more of a negative perspective on the 80s was because of the satanic panic outlook on dungeons and dragons and the bullying that went on in the 80s

Not to mention Joel Hodgson is in it~

I loved, loved, loved this show when it was on and was totally shocked that it was suddenly cancelled. I couldn't believe that others didn't see the same value in it as I did... but apparently they did and do. It was only the boring money men who didn't.

@JP-ve7or

Жыл бұрын

In the DVD commentary, Apatow said the suits at NBC didn't understand the public school experience at all. I never forgot that because it explains so much.

the take on self made : Sarah walkers story and people can takeaway about becoming their own self made

I never watched it. I know it’s how John Francis Daley got his start before Bones. He was so smol back then. 😂😂

Could You please make a video essay about Arcane? It's SO good and they just released a documentary on how they made it. Love you The take ♥️♥️♥️♥️

Love this show ❤️

I ... never saw one episode of this show but remember the promotions.

Absolutely loved this show

Nancy Wheeler has always reminded me of Lindsey Weir

When will y’all do stuff on mental health and SAD?

John Francis Daley is my biggest crush next to Jason Momoa. They couldn’t be more opposite in appearance (except for height).

@JimVincent

Жыл бұрын

John is super tall now.

Just finished watching this show.

I think the main reason this show never got the ratings is because the main target audience (people who lived this era) where consumed with raising young kids and work and had little time for tv shows; if this show came out 10 years later it would have lived longer

Such a great show. It's disappointing it only got one season.

12:33 Was That Rashida Jones?!

@edugomez3c

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

I think it's apocryphal that the show got canceled after only one season. Just like high school itself, the show leaves so much left unsaid and undone.

I loved it

i love this show and i love pie

They should reboot Freaks and Geeks with a new cast set in 1984 ( after the original cast has already graduated). It could be a series like American Horror Story where each season is a new cast/ story line. Of course it would have to be done by the original behind the scenes people that created the original. That is the only way you could reboot this show. Or even remake it set later and some of the original cast could be in it as older characters; imagine Neal or Bill as a teacher

What's it like to see representation of yourself everywhere all the time?

I hope they make a remake with a more inclusive and diverse cast!! I'm sure it would be great!

I know that the actors are old now, but come ooooon, can't they just continue the show with new actors. From what I read the director even had ideas about season 2.

Bruh why do the GOOD shows get cancelled?

Freaks and geeks is an excellent show it should have a reboot

@Arekushisukun

Жыл бұрын

Nay. THIS miracle of a cast has no match.

@DanaJaneWriter

Жыл бұрын

No no reboot please

@ems0up

Жыл бұрын

nonono no reboots please, it will just ruin it

Netflix will make shitty remakes of all the shitty shows out there, and spend millions on meaningless new projects as well...but why don't try to get this gem back?

My dad liked this show.

The best teen centered tv show of all time- hands down.

It was Lindsay's grandfather who died, not her grandmother. That's why Lindsay now wears his Army jacket.

@trinaq

Жыл бұрын

It was her grandmother, who died, actually, and the army jacket belonged to Lindsay's father.

@strells

Жыл бұрын

@@trinaq Complete news to me! You are correct! All these years I thought it was her grandfather and his WWII jacket! Not sure why.

@trinaq

Жыл бұрын

@@strells No worries, an easy mistake to make. I believe that they made a reference to Harold having fought in the Vietnam War in his youth.

@michellem9444

Жыл бұрын

@@trinaq Actually, it was the Korean War. in the Halloween episode, Harold says, "The last time I had this much fun, I was pinned down in a foxhole by the North Koreans". If he had been in his 20s during Vietnam, he would have been too young to have the kids, since Lindsay was probably born around 1963. That's assuming she was 17 in 1980.

@trinaq

Жыл бұрын

@@michellem9444 Ah, you're probably right. The Vietnam War ended in 1975, only five years before the start of the show. The Korean War concluded two decades beforehand. Thanks for letting me know!

It makes me so sad that this braindead world most of the time can’t appreciate a series that doesn’t treat it like they are simpletons that can only enjoy low hanging fruit. Anyway, really glad this show was made

How freaks & geeks got 90's youth? Even the video says it takes place in 1980 / 1981...so 80's Youth?

Hey there!!! Are you guys planning to make episode video breakdowns of House of the Dragon? You’ve made them before for GOT. They were amazing!!!! Please do 🙏🙏🙏

Body And Soul I’m a Freakk

Wtf? Show was set in 1980... 90s youth?

This show, along with Stranger Things, is Gen x culture. Yet, you refuse to highlight this generation.

"Freak culture"? Where's this video going?

Judd apatow doesnt see black people

so shows from decades ago weren't just filled with toxic masculinity ? who would have guessed ?