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I'm kinda disappointed that Brendan Fraser wasn't included in this. His roles in The Mummy and George of the Jungle helped create this trope just as much as Will Smith did.

@Arianagizycko

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@ladycarys3008

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking

@monsterous6152

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you make a very valid point.

@Ellington3

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! And his role in Dudley Doright.

@kajoleagle

2 жыл бұрын

Came for this comment

I think the difference might be that himbos don't necessarily have self-awareness because they're too "dumb," whereas the dudes in this archetype can be quite intelligent while still presenting themselves as intentionally dumb. Andy from Parks and Rec is a himbo, Star-Lord is a "buff clown."

The Rock is the best example of an athlete who successfully transitioned into a movie star. He has an easy charm about him, is very comfortable on camera, and wasn't afraid to goodnaturedly poke fun of his macho physique in the "Jumanji" movies.

@benwasserman8223

2 жыл бұрын

Well him, plus Carl Weathers

@KingHiki

2 жыл бұрын

I think the reason wrestlers transition well to being comedic action stars is because they've basically already been doing it for years before ever making their first movies. Part of being successful as a wrestler is getting a crowd to like you and a big part of that is being funny and charismatic

@Leto85

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that self-awareness really suits him as an actor.

@gaillewis5472

2 жыл бұрын

@Trina Q You're young, so you don't remember Burt Reynolds, Jim Brown, Ken Norton and OJ before the hideous scandal.

@yolandacarroll558

2 жыл бұрын

If you count body building as a sport, then there's also Arnold Schwarzenegger.

No one plays himbo comedy better than Channing Tatum. Though Chris Hemsworth has done surprisingly well these last few years.

@thefriesofLockeLamora

2 жыл бұрын

Hollywood's best himbo is George of the Jungle. I will die on this hill.

@sunte91

2 жыл бұрын

@@thefriesofLockeLamora he is a good one

@JasmineGeminiDragon

2 жыл бұрын

Taika Waititi knows how to direct them best.

@mretie

2 жыл бұрын

agreed about Channing. fucking hilarious in the 21 Jumpstreet movies

@risernotme

Жыл бұрын

and chris pine in ghostbusters!

The will Smith part really put a smile to my face. People really been trying to forget will Smith held us down for over 3 decades.

@sculptureofsound2

2 жыл бұрын

Will is a good guy. He was in the wrong, but he's a good guy. I still stan

@samanthanorton4538

2 жыл бұрын

I think people do remember, and that is what was so shocking about his recent behavior. It was so out of character.

@faith4657

2 жыл бұрын

All of you guys in this comment section I feel your pain too it's exactly what I'm going through, but I still think that he can get a second chance right now they put his ass on probation but 10 years will pass by and it'll be okay.

@tfaddict8254

2 жыл бұрын

Right! We will not cancel Will Smith

@ElvisRose_

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not painful if you never liked him to begin with!

For the record, a “Himbo” is not quite the same as a “Buff Clown”, and the proof is kind of in the name: Himbos need to fill the triad of attractive, good-hearted, and not that bright. Actively being funny is not a requirement. Buff Clowns need to be funny by definition, and there’s no reason why they can’t be smart as well as sensitive. It’s a subtle difference, but an important one.

@sydposting

2 жыл бұрын

Many Himbos are Buff Clowns, but not all Buff Clowns are Himbos. You do occasionally, though, run into the Himbo Gentleman, who is educated/intelligent in a traditional manner, but completely oblivious or shy about romantic gestures. 🥰 (If I MUST make a Jojo Reference for a comparison/example - Jonathan is a Himbo Gentleman, Joseph is a Buff Clown, and Josuke is a Himbo.)

@Jcampoverde27

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that Peacemaker is actually really mean, but still hilarious, so I think he would define that divide.

@messinalyle4030

2 жыл бұрын

Anybody ever heard of Overly Sarcastic Productions? The archetype that Red calls the "Crouching Moron, Hidden Baddass" is yet a third one that is similar to the Himbo and the Buff Clown, but has differences from both of them. The CMHB makes the first impression that they are to be taken less seriously than the Buff Clown, but generally turns out to have more talents at kicking ass than the Himbo does. The CMHB and the Himbo both tend to be polite and even a little childlike on the surface, but unlike the Himbo, the CMHB isn't required to be good looking.

@Hallows4

2 жыл бұрын

@@messinalyle4030 They're the only channel I watch as much as The Take! LOVE their stuff!

The Buff Clown is basically a variant of The Himbo. Another descriptor used to describe guys like these is "Labrador energy" and I see that. Labradors are big physically fit dogs often used as working dogs but they are cuddly and affectionate and sociable and often silly and goofy.

Something as a lifter I'd like to point out. If you look at a lot of talented athletes or men in physical demanding jobs/lifestyles in real time even very high performing ones, they aren't "perfect" looking. The ideal aesthetics come from training FOR size, a diet that can leave you feeling like crap at certain points, and dangerous hydration practices. There's also massive genetic luck and being naturally mesomorphic, and the possibility of steroid abuse and even for men (YES) cosmetic surgery. Bodybuilding is a sport/lifestyle to itself. While physical exercise and looking buff enough for a role are important for actors, and everyone looks/feels better when they're healthy, these aren't normal bodies even FOR the athletes/soldiers/SWAT officers they're playing. So don't feel bad if you train, get a lot stronger, feel a lot better, know you look better, but don't get a great six-pack, or your shoulders don't Flair out cool.

@sydposting

2 жыл бұрын

For a great example, take a look at strength-trainers when they're training for a body-building competition vs a weight-lifting competition! They're practically different body types despite having the same muscles beneath.

I have not been able to enjoy male shirtless scenes since i learned the men dehydrate themselves for just that scene, doesn't seem like it worths the pain. Also the muscular build is so unrealistic that when an actor (ex : Jason Momoa) is caugth having a "gasp" belly! people say "oh he is leaving himself out" because most of what we see on tv is men sucking their belly in

@cbpd89

2 жыл бұрын

It is really ridiculous. People look at that and think it is some standard of health, when what they are seeing is only visible through dehydration and disordered eating.

He’s not aged well but I liked Vin Diesel from ‘The Pacifier’ as a Buff Clown. Also, Terry Crews is an underrated Buff Clown.

@LinkEX

2 жыл бұрын

Terry Crews might be considered one of the earlier buff clowns, and actually seems the most comfortable to that kind of humor casually. He might be in a special spot due to his tongue-in-cheek over the top serious and loud attitude from his Old Spice commercials he got infamous for.

@mirthkos

2 жыл бұрын

We just watched 'The Pacifier' with kids and there was one(!) scene where Diesel was shirtless. He had some actual fat on his muscles. He looked good. Maybe they didn't starve/dehydrate actors for scenes 15+ years ago as they do now.

@chesterx307

Жыл бұрын

Terry crews should have 100% been included in this list

@chesterx307

Жыл бұрын

Terry crews should have 100% been included in this video

In my experience IRL, the most “attractive/charismatic” guys in a group are the ones that often laugh at themselves, but never AT other people. Happy to let people in on a joke, but not make anyone the butt of a joke - including themselves, btw, as self-deprecation can easily become toxic. It’s a subtle strength. 💪☺️

@mdtisthebest6249

2 жыл бұрын

You sound like a lame.

@tobiaslawrence8928

2 жыл бұрын

Do they look like these guys?

@SinnerOneNine

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like normie cope

A good analysis. An additional point however: the role of the Disney MCU juggernaut in the massive popularisation of the manly buffoon. As profit margins of traditional blockbuster fare continue to shrink with streaming, the studio formula of cape-wearing ubermensch continue to serve two purposes- make the leads more relatable and sell more tickets, and also have quips shift focus away from the more serious, possibly depressing plot elements. A nation pulverised to the ground? A skybeam shattering another metropolis? Half of the world's population has been exterminated? Nothing that a few Joss Whedon styled quips can't help deal with.

@monsterous6152

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent point!

@daftbanna7202

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the new trend of action comedies are so annoying. Let's just not take any movies seriously because they are just supposed to be consumed and forgotten about. Fun and games not serious art.

Does Jackie Chan count as a Buff Clown? He INVENTED the concept 🔥

@cbpd89

2 жыл бұрын

Jackie Chan transcends labels. He is a one of a kind icon.

@CamJames

2 жыл бұрын

how in the world is Jackie buff? he can kick your ass but he was never intimidating visually.

@robchuk4136

2 жыл бұрын

@@CamJames Jackie may not be 'big' but he was ripped in his younger years, therefore, buff.

@CamJames

2 жыл бұрын

@@robchuk4136 ripped and buff are different things. Jackie has never been buff.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

No, and no he did not.

Brendan Fraser in Goerge of The jungle was the first one I remember

In conclusion: himbos have taken over and there's nothing you can do about it

Its kinda hard to say that this trope is 'defeating toxic masculinity', when they say in the same video that its also causing increases in male body dysmorphia and general unhappiness. I mean, ok, these characters aren't degrading or objectifying women with domineering personalities in the actual film (though the movie still manages to somehow bring that old idea across all by itself by showing us only beautiful, scantily clad women....), and they are indeed funny, making it seem like they'd be fun to hang out with and go to a pub with. But now the men who are PLAYING the characters themselves are miserable?!! Henry Cavill SMELLS water. Kumail Nanjiani is 'more miserable than he's ever been' (which shamefully got a laugh), and of course most recently, Will Smith's slap heard 'round the world, in which he tried to justify his rash violence as 'protecting those he loves', which was a brave card to play on his part (the original Buff Joker, responsible for beginning to dismantle the idea of what a 'true man' is, ironically circles back around to do a very toxic thing, but 'because we love him' and it was 'done with love', he believed it was justified??!) This trope, though yes.... ok, its challenging how we see many of these characters, has now created a new problem for the men themselves, and therefore, a new type of toxicity.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Everything you said here was great.

@abhijiththampi

2 жыл бұрын

I've often thought that the Take are very clever but they often miss the fundamental point while extensively covering everything around it.

@Limptastical

2 жыл бұрын

@@markmurex6559 i agree and disagree. I feel like it takes away from the “chubby kid is funny” meme

@Sarah-ml4fv

2 жыл бұрын

i actually feel like they made this point!

Can we get a take on relationship dynamics and tropes ? Like enemies to lovers, friends to lovers, fake dating, and my personal favorite the found family.

“The Buff Clown” ? Pretty sure this is the Himbo archetype.

@Juliandank

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying what I was about to type

@trinaq

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, it's basically the same archetype with a different name.

@raynacarraway440

2 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily, they share similar traits but a big part of the himbo's character is that he's not the brightest and has more of a "golden retriever" energy. A lot of the ones listed in this video aren't really stupid, just more likable and humorous, though both are anti- toxic masculinity which is great (I write this as someone who's type is himbos"

@sydposting

2 жыл бұрын

@@raynacarraway440 Many Himbos are Buff Clowns, but not all Buff Clowns are Himbos. You do occasionally, though, run into the Himbo Gentleman, who is educated/intelligent in a traditional manner, but completely oblivious or shy about romantic gestures. 🥰 (If I MUST make a Jojo Reference for a comparison/example - Jonathan is a Himbo Gentleman, Joseph is a Buff Clown, and Josuke is a Himbo.)

@LinkEX

2 жыл бұрын

@@raynacarraway440 The "Golden Retriever energy" is a good comparison. (At least when going by their perceived stereotype of being naive - which actually isn't quite accurate as they are one of the more intelligent breeds, IIRC.)

All the more impressive in the '80s that the guy who kicked ass in Die Hard looked like your dad, John McClane.

Great job with this one! I always enjoy the trope videos, but I learned a lot in this video. I like it when you introduce a trope that I've never even heard/thought of.

"Himbo" where the heck did buff clown come from

"Punchlines went down easier when licked off a six-pack" hahaha!

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Can that be said if you made a reference to a sexy female?

I heavily disagree that this is challenging toxic masculinity. If anything it’s just making toxic masculinity go down easier, particularly because the comedy that makes them the butt of the joke is often linked to some of the elements of the character that make separate them from the toxic male. Often, we are meant to laugh at their sensitivity, their struggles with mental health, and so on. The person these folks are in their interviews, where they talk sincerely about their struggles and vulnerabilities, is how the characters should be. If you have any doubt that the Buff Clown isn’t doing any good, just look at that Ellen interview clip you had. “I’ve never felt worse about myself” is met with *actual laughter*

@sydposting

2 жыл бұрын

Hence the *Clown* part. Skilled comedians rely more on just cringe and pain, but there are a lot of low-level actors out there that just resort to punching down or punching inward to get laughs. It’s why merely “flipping the script” and treating a Buff Dude the same way as a Buxom Lady doesn’t work on its own as a source of “humor.” HOWEVER, the increasingly balanced ratio of Himbos to Bimbos in media - both of whom exist on a spectrum of “kindness” in portrayal - is at the very least a sign of *some* sort of trend away from misogyny. 😅 I mean, it’s better than women *overwhelmingly* being depicted as this way.

@sydposting

2 жыл бұрын

Also, Ellen-humor is very much on the same lines as earlier eras of Interview Television, where the discomfort of the subject is always treated as humorous if the host set the tone as humorous, no matter how actually inappropriate the situation is, or how heavy the subject matter is. Even then, “Serious Interviewers” like Barbara Walters repeatedly victim-blamed people in interviews, everyone from assault survivors to Dolly Parton just “looking the way she does.” This kind of humor has been around forever; the mean-hearted people in the world just know now that they can get away with targeting Handsome Alpha Males now if they put it in some sort of “woke” context that gets everyone riled up. There is very little way for you to know if these jokes were written by SJW’s finally looking to “turn the tables” and make men “see how it feels” - or if they’re being written by insecure men wanting to see Pinnacles of Masculinity humiliated so they’ll feel better about themselves. Either way, it’s toxic.

@samanthanorton4538

2 жыл бұрын

I think that was just that he is a comedian, and they thought he was doing a bit. I would be interested to see a longer version of the clip once the audience realizes he was being serious.

@AnonymousOnimous

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe there's multiple ways the "buff clown" could challenge toxic masculinity. One way is stop treating sensitivity and mental health as mockable topics. Another way could been to still allow laughter on mental health but change the point of the jokes. Some comedians have used mental health struggles for content in beneficial ways. Taylor Tomlinson did a bit where she compared taking medication to stabilize her mood with wearing pool floaties. So many people in the comments section were saying how they have to take medication for mental health and that this comedic piece helped them feel validated. Some even said they'd use the metaphor to defend themselves against criticism. I think the "buff clown" could still use humor to talk about mental health in a beneficial way, but they may need to be more clever about how they craft their jokes.

@adammyers7383

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnonymousOnimous yes. To be clear I’m not saying it can’t happen, but usually it doesn’t.

I want to make one thing very clear: ‘Stop! Or my mom will shoot’ was a comedic masterpiece. Estelle Getty was fabulous. I will not be taking further questions at this time.

@sydposting

2 жыл бұрын

Brought to you by the guy that wrote Save The Cat! It’s staple textbook for beginning screenwriters and as many jokes as it gets, it’s a fantastic way to understand how stories work, not just in films.

@zucchinigreen

2 жыл бұрын

Was looking for this comment lol. I loved the movie as a kid 😂

While I get the optimistic tone, I think it's interesting that to be a chill guy that is not embodying the traditional masculine ideals you have to be extremely muscular, tall, handsome and funny. I'm a bit saddened because the comedic funny guy was one of the few body types that felt relatable. Anyways back to the gym lol

@krisxxn4756

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, part of me wonders if the reason the “buff clown” exists is because producers of blockbuster movies want all their actors to be buff, including the comedic relief.

@SolAya21

2 жыл бұрын

@@krisxxn4756 yeah and idk it is what it is. Women have had to deal with way more restrictive body dimensions then men so I don't want to come off whining but in the step away from the stoic unfeeling masculine it also feels like a step back in terms of body representation. Like you can be silly or feminine presenting as long as you're jacked. So two steps forward one back type of thing.

@JoshuaAlbury

2 жыл бұрын

@@SolAya21 don’t reduce your feelings thru comparison

@SolAya21

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaAlbury yeah I think it's a defense mechanism. I appreciate you calling that out 🙏🏾

I love these guys! P.S. The Rock is a freaking dream boat and a lot of that is his sense of humor and smile (tho the rest ain't shabby either)

I would have thought that this archetype is just a list of women’s fantasy mate more than a men’s fantasy goal. Or maybe it has just continued to evolve over the years for both genders but boy does this seem like these men are more and more perfect checklist men. These guys got the body, the handsomeness, the humor, the determination, the charisma that most women have as standard for a suitor.

Do you think a big part of it might be because comedy and action as genres have slowly melded together over the past few years? It's been a while since I've seen a big blockbuster comedy that didn't also fall under the umbrella of being an action film. Also action films that aren't also comedy, well they're not gone but they don't seem to be big cultural touchstones or hit it big at the bock office anymore. At least that's what I've been seeing.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. I think you are correct.

@missj794

2 жыл бұрын

That's true. I think studios are trying to check all the boxes so more people will go see the movie.

This was SO interesting learning about the origins of the himbo!

This isn't getting rid of toxic masculinity it's introducing it into areas it wasn't previously. Comedy is one of the oldest genres in Hollywood and plenty of sensitive men have been portraited in Hollywood. But buff guys never use to play comedy roles or sensitive male roles and now they play all of them. You can't just be the quiet sensitive type anymore or funny anymore now you need to be buff and then you are allowed to be funny or sensitive. Basically what this is doing is making everyone else irrelevant by making buff a prerequisite for every single role even when it makes no sense. Instead of some roles having toxic masculinity they all do, sure the action hero has it a little less but now the sensitive and funny roles have it 10 fold. The thing I find wierd is how most women look at this and see toxic masculinity being challenged but most men look at this and see toxic masculinity being amplified and are the concerned ones. The interviews you showed weren't funny they were very serious and extremely sad.

Buff clowns? I believe we mean Himbos 💕

Terry cruise should have had a segment

the transition for babbel was so smooth 😂

@bnadira212

2 жыл бұрын

Right😂

@carinewiththevoice7901

2 жыл бұрын

I faded out during this and the ad came on I was like what , why and when😂😂😂

@robchuk4136

2 жыл бұрын

It really was!

I really like the take but I think they should stick to talking about only tropes about women because whenever they talk about tropes about men there seems to be a bit of a double standard. For example, they rightfully called out that tropes such as the manic pixie dream girl and bimbo are bad for women because these characters rarely have their own agency and reduce women to just one thing, but also praised tropes such as the manic pixie dream boy and the himbo, despite the fact that they also have those exact same problems. Also, while I'm at it, can we please stop acting like these tropes are defeating toxic masculinity. Because for one thing a lot of the comedy in these tropes comes from their least masculine traits such as their feelings. Hell in the peacemaker show there's a scene where peacemaker breaks down crying and were supposed to take it as comedic

@Arekushisukun

2 жыл бұрын

THIS. I felt the same whole watching this vídeo. IMO this male trope is SO unrealistic and toxic I can't believe The Take is praising it.

@what1356

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Like how is this trope of a buff clown POSITIVE for men. Most men do not and can not look like these buff clowns. We should want different body types in Hollywood marquee movies, not all the same buff clowns.

@maleficent1776

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know how to feel, because i thought the same thing. now that i see this comment, i don't feel alone about having this opinion.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Men can be shat on while Women cannot be disrespected in the slightest.

Honestly, I really really like Kumail Nanjiani BEFORE he got swole. I still like him now of course, if not more because I loved Eternals, but I was and still am a little worried for him. For EVERYBODY to suddenly love him at the same time he became “hot” must feel so backhanded. And the work he put in to be fit is seriously impressive, but I hope this experience doesn’t encourage him to stop taking proper care of himself.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Steroids probably made him feel like a fraud.

This also makes me think of Brendan Fraser in George of the Jungle!

today's long laugh inspired by "His Masterpiece Jingle all the way"

These are called Himbos Let us appreciate them

14:00 "or ryan reynolds in pretty much every movie" that killed me

Be Cool is an underrated classic. I've watched it many times over just for Elliot.

How have I not noticed this is a thing

Video: "With box office hits like Men in Black & Wild Wild West..." Me:"What paradox sh!t is this?"

Great analysis! I love this trend. When a tough guy is funny, it shows his humanity and makes him three dimensional. But I also agree that we’re setting unrealistic standards for men’s bodies.

How could we leave out Jackie Chan? The original action-comedy buff guy, who has been doing this for decades and earlier on in his film career. Who probably was the first and only one during his time. Long before Will Smith, The Rock, Kumail Nanjiani, Chris Pratt, Chris Hemsworth, Paul Rudd, Ryan Reynold etc.

@zucchinigreen

2 жыл бұрын

Because Asian men are desexualized and his movies were outside of the Hollywood canon. I don't disagree with you, but Jackie Chan never transitioned onto the silver screen from a different archetype. He was always looked more as a super skilled martial artist who did jokey stuff. He didn't "take America by storm" the way Will did where women wanted to have sex with him and men wanted to be him. Some other examples that were left out as seen in the comments OJ Simpson, yes that OJ, Burt Reynolds and Brendan Fraser. I agree with all of the above as well, but The Take knew they'd get more clicks taking about Will Smith than stars of yesteryear so can't blame them for making decisions based on engagement metrics before fact. Will try to think of more examples. Cheers.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

I never saw him as a guy who got all the ladies, and also his accent only made him appear dumb.

@user-ot2nh8qb7d

2 жыл бұрын

@@markmurex6559 Isn’t “appearing dumb” and being funny part of the clown persona? The opposite of stoicism. How does one’s accent make them appear dumb or charismatic for that matter? It’s simply an accent, which has no bearing on IQ or intelligence.

@user-ot2nh8qb7d

2 жыл бұрын

@@zucchinigreen Yeah I know why they did that, and the history behind it. I brought it up because I wanted to highlight the biases and the hypocrisy in the differing treatment then and and now. Although Kumail and The Rock are both South Asian and part Pacific Islander themselves respectively. And as for the Take selecting Will Smith, that was just an obvious calculated move to capitalize on the recent Chris Rock slap “controversy” which I personally give no shits about.

I'm at 14:24, and so far there's only been one shot of Terry Crews? What. Up.

Two tropes that are not the same, but closely related are the funny buff guy and the himbo. Both have high expectations on the character's physique, but do make him more palatable, because he's funny and not insecure about masculinity. They come across as less toxic, a lot of the time. And with himbos, there's expectations that they are kind, even if not smart. I enjoy both, though I do expect both may seem unattainable, as mentioned in the video.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

What role in movies would be considered to fall under the heading of 'Toxic Masculinity'? I'm curious.

This is a great video and I believe it to be one your best. I am especially happy you talked about the creation of the buff clown and how it was connected to racism and making white audiences comfortable with black masculinity. Black actors (especially men) were constantly forced to play the black clown to a more serious non-black actor (examples: Rush Hour, Men in Black and countless others). And since these films about buff/attractive clowns made so money, white actors started playing the buff clown too. Perfect take. Thanks.

@robchuk4136

2 жыл бұрын

Comedy in general is a great way for any audience to be more comfortable about something, but in the 80s, it really helped Black actors like Richard Pryor and Bill Cosby become very popular with white viewers. On the action front, no one benefited more than Eddie Murphy (Beverly Hills Cop), so in a way, he was the counter to the Buff action heroes back then until the tropes started blending together.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

This video has many flaws tho- it gets the archetype mixed up with the Himbo too much, and it reinforces the double standard (of men and women). Also, does this combat toxic masculinity? I think not.

«Everything hurts and running is impossible”

"shoulders the size of hams" - I've never snorted watching a Take video before, thank you!

When the narrator commented on Kumail's "shoulders the size of hams' I could hear she meant that lmao

"And his masterpiece 'Jingle All the Way'" LMAO

I feel like the Buff Clown is the male version of the beauty with brains for women. Before, men could only be funny OR buff and women could only be pretty OR smart. Now it changing and thats awesome to see.

Every Himbo is a Buff Clown but not all Buff Clowns are Himbos.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Nope- The difference is one is a Buff Buffoon, and the other is a Buff Comedian.

One of my favorite tropes ❤️

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Do women want men to take steroids and dehydrate themselves?

The word your looking for is "himbo"...

Here's a tip for Hollywood: I didn't need the buff part, I'm happy with a clown. I don't think I'm alone either. My favorite old Hollywood leading man is Danny Kaye, followed closely by Donald O'Connor. I don't need a six pack shirt ripping scene, just give me a few good belly laughs and I'll keep coming back to your movies.

@LinkEX

2 жыл бұрын

Well, they want you to come back, _and_ the people that are primarily here for the ripped guys. Similar reason why Hollywood generally prefers attractive actors for most roles.

@mdtisthebest6249

2 жыл бұрын

We don’t need anymore weak men! Shit!

How come with Will Smith it’s “white audiences liked that he was funny because that way he didn’t seem like a scary threatening black man action star” but with any other race you’d just be like, “people liked that he was funny and yet also an awesome action star”? You’re reinforcing racial stereotypes (“black men are threatening”) and stating speculation like it’s fact, when there are plenty of non-comedic black actors who helmed successful action movies (Denzel & Wesley Snipes for instance) in the 90s/early 2000s, contemporaneous to Will Smith’s action star turn.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 👏

14:42 YES

Thanks for giving will smith his flowers and perfectly addressing the racial elements of the origins of this trend

Honestly, I love them

I'm disappointed that the movie Junior wasn't rightfully labelled at Schwarzenegger's true masterpiece film, his comedy with Devito was pure gold in that film!

can you do the artist trope

Halfway through, waiting for Brendan Fraser to be mentioned... NO BRENDAN FRASER😱😰😥

@lastjohns9717

2 жыл бұрын

Waiting for Jackie Chan😡 and finding no mentions😡😠👿

Never thought I'd hear The Take say "Super Saiyan." My life is complete

New masculine ideal just dropped

You know what old Jack Burton would say at a time like this

Dewayne was so fine in " be cool"

I love The Take- They are able to empathize men too

Wow, the transition to the ad was super awkward.

Thank you for giving Will Smith his roses.

What a great video once again. I will soon be back here taking notes like I always did. You two brilliant women have taught me so much.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Moron or Simp?

As Ricky Gervais once said " their (actors') job isn't acting anymore. It's going to the gym twice a day taking steroids ".

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Well, he wasn't wrong.

Ryan Reynolds gives Chaotic Disaster Bisexual Energy and I love Queer interpreting that. He’s the closest thing to a Muscle Gay Action Star lol

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's just you who thinks that. Glad he wets your whistle tho, I guess.

@greenrico10

2 жыл бұрын

It's just a joke that he takes farther then most do. It's meant to be funny you aren't actually supposed to think he is gay

I was procrastinating to watch this video but couldn't resist Kumail Nanjinis's million dollar smile😳

Is the dude from Emperor's New Clothes (Kronk?) in this? Epitome.

Looking at all of the shows teaches me what appeals to humans on a global scale. A world without truth or love. A world where you as a single individual gets to be the hero and live happily ever after. A world without pain, defeat and death.

I love this channel, but I think u guys are running out of ideas. This video is basically about himbos and u already made a video of that like a year ago…

It was the benefits Instagram thirst trap for me lol

Wait, didn’t they already do this with the take on the Himbo ?

This video reminded me that the movie The Pacifier starring Vin Diesel exists

I see nothing wrong with this. Men should strive to achieve self-improvement, whether it be health (with side effect being appearance), emotional maturity, or intellect/academic achievement. While male architypes were unemotional until the 1990s, it was seen that physical traits were only needed while his mental traits were only for economical resources, and that's how we got Betty Draper. But as it's evolved to include more internal and intangible traits, we see that the male *hero* can also evolve. We're not going to get to the level of Dwayne Johnson, but women aren't going to be Christmas Jones, either - something also unreasonable on a practical level. But striving for better is always good.

@naddarr1

2 жыл бұрын

You say men should strive for self-improvement but see nothing wrong with men literally starving and dehydrating themselves just to play a comedy role nowadays. This is not an improvement it's taking the worst traits and just applying them to all roles. Sure the stereotypical male hero has a little less toxic masculinity but now the comedy and sensitive roles have it 10 fold. Comedians are being forced to buff up just to get normal acting roles not even superhero roles.

@johnstebbins24

2 жыл бұрын

@@naddarr1 fair point that Hollywood has usually taken these qualities too extremes. But part of what makes these extreme is the timeframe in which they're carried out. Myself, for example, I've lost 85 lbs. by diet and working out, but I did it over a year and a half with a reasonable diet and exercises that pushed, but not too much. Plus, I seek improvement, not the perfection Hollywood demands, which is crucial. I'm not gonna be swole like The Rock, funny like Robin Williams, but if I max out my own abilities, that's still the ultimate goal.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

So I should also take steroids?

Isn't the buff clown just the himbo though? Like sure not in theory, but in practice, like in film, don't buff clowns usually always fill the himbo triangle?

Uh… didn’t you guys already do a video on the Himbo? 😂

These role models inspire me to take steroids so I can be just like them.

Shoulders the size of hams :D

response to Getting a shot… From the 80’s action hero: . . . . . . . . . . . . From the buff clown: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 *runs away flayling his arms around and making a mess*

Himbos 😂

I’m sorry but where’s Bruce Campbell? If anything, he started the trend along with Schwarzenegger. Evil Dead 2 & Army of Darkness anyone?

that Erik Conover cameo tho

One additional point that should be made is that even if these guys work out hard, eat well and have beneficial genetics for putting on muscle mass the majority of these people are also on steroids and/or other performance enhancing drugs. They are obviously not allowed to say it even if they would want to.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

True.

It's literally Kronk. Kronk walked so they could run.

kind of forgot Terry Crews there

Never heard of buff clown 😂

Can you guys make an analysis about the amazingly embarrasing parents trope?

And like, no one needs or wants dudes to not drink water to get extra cut. Film makers need to take better care of their actors and not encourage that, it's unhealthy. There is nothing wrong with being a muscled guy, but treating it as a default and that default getting more and MORE muscular is so damaging. 20, 30 years ago what constituted a fit looking, muscular actor looked so different to the point they would be considered not "fit" for shirtless scenes and that is weird and not right.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 👏

i love how this begins praising will smith for his talent. he deserves more

@khanyah

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed man, all this recent stuff almost made me forget how this man changed the game when we were kids🥲

@sydposting

2 жыл бұрын

@Hunterkage Joestar I mean he’s arguably fallen prey to the Hollywood Pseudo-Spiritual types and is one step away from publicly stating he’s joined a certain unscientific church, who are only stroking his ego instead of directing him towards true mental health and stability. He has a great amount of skill but his real-life messiness is starting to encroach on his integrity as an actor.

@markmurex6559

2 жыл бұрын

He's not good at acting black.

I'd really like to see normalisation of different buff types for guys. Functional buff nit aesthetic buff

I’m not a fan of muscles, give me all the flabby/average guys!! Especially after hearing how strict a diet they have to maintain. Sounds like torture. I don’t think I’d be upset if I see someone like Henry Cavill with an average body as Superman or Witcher. The man said he can smell water, that’s terrifying.

6:27 Me: oh are we gonna get into bilingual movie stars now? oh it's just an ad