How energy storage will kill fossil fuel.

Utility scale batteries have been dismissed by some as no more than a useful bolt-on to our existing electricity grids to help with a little bit of demand stabilisation here and there. But dramatic cost reductions, improved efficiencies, and a plethora of new innovations in how to store energy that can be delivered into the grid over long durations have all contributed towards a rapidly changing market that look set to revolutionise how we structure our global energy systems towards a fossil fuel-free future.
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  • @toms4123
    @toms41233 жыл бұрын

    This is amongst the best of youtube, Dave. Factual, lots of info, a great start for the viewer to acquire a basis to understand the issues you tackle and present so well.

  • @ValMartinIreland

    @ValMartinIreland

    Жыл бұрын

    Really. Why is there a panic on countries like Germany and Britain with the highest renewables energy installations in the world? kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYas3MqpdL3Jeps.html

  • @dwalley1234
    @dwalley12343 жыл бұрын

    Great Video Dave, I particularly like the use of video diagrams to accompany your commentary. Well done and keep up the good work!

  • @JustHaveaThink

    @JustHaveaThink

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks David. Much appreciated.

  • @omeganoobz

    @omeganoobz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jinnantonix4570 Yes the technical aspects are covered... But the economic issues are clearly out of his spectrum, hence the strong belief that those solutions will work. Anyone doing some serious research on that topic knows that renewables are a fraud.

  • @peterjohnstaples

    @peterjohnstaples

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jinnantonix4570 I would like one of these money makers, show the empirical data for man made Carbon warming, as no one has yet.

  • @stephenarcher8929

    @stephenarcher8929

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@omeganoobz in what way are they a fraud? It's hot outside. I'm sat in my air conditioned room using the power I generate from the PV panels I installed a few yrs ago, which have now paid for themselves, plus getting paid for every watt I generate. If that's fraud, more please.

  • @nicholasesposito1204

    @nicholasesposito1204

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JustHaveaThink Im curious what people think about climate change in general. im not sure what the real timeline is for when things will get bad but i hear people say things like "we have ten years before its too late" or something and i think to myself "well there's 0 chance of switching to renewables in ten years so were definitely screwed." In general Im pretty optimistic about the future and the development of new technologies to help solve the problem but if the timelines really that short should we be bracing for the inevitable disaster? or, is the timeline exaggerated to motivate people to push forward and for example if we're all renewable by like 2050 things will be mostly all right. I guess what im saying is should i be extremely fearful and pessimistic or is our current trajectory one that should make us hopeful?

  • @jamesdubben3687
    @jamesdubben36873 жыл бұрын

    I don't comment nearly enough on how much I enjoy and look forward to your outstanding work. Thanks

  • @frcgfd107

    @frcgfd107

    3 жыл бұрын

    Neither do I, but in my case I usually don’t have much to contribute. This is all new to me and I am still learning how things work. Keep up the great work.

  • @numchies8172
    @numchies81723 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work with these videos! Love to learn about the energy transition on your channel. Such a soothing voice and great use of diagrams and text!

  • @patrickmcnulty848
    @patrickmcnulty8483 жыл бұрын

    As control room operator at FP&L for over 20 years I have seen the effects of low frequency on the grid. What typically happens in hot weather is as frequency gets lower due to not enough generation capacity dispatch load control will start shedding load during brown outs in order to keep frequency up... If there is enough battery capacity to supply enough load during this time it can eliminate brown outs. So green energy is a good option to prevent brown outs and load shedding..

  • @flagmichael

    @flagmichael

    3 жыл бұрын

    Florida (In particular Florida Power and Light) is recognized in the US electric industry as one of the most robust areas in terms of energy management and disaster recovery. Here in Arizona we have hurricanes occasionally wander through the southwest corner, which does damage you would laugh at. "Aww - did it undermine a 500KV tower? Poor babies?" I completely agree with storage being magic for short-term stability. Here in the West we don't have enough Remedial Action Schemes, although California does pretty well. In Arizona the plan is to rely on line protection and manual switching.

  • @acmefixer1

    @acmefixer1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Patrick McNulty With a conventional generator the load is coupled electromechanically to the generator. But with the electronic inverter the frequency determining oscillator is independent of the load. If the load varies the frequency stays the same, and if the frequency is generated by a crystal oscillator, the frequency can be very accurate. So the only thing that will vary is the voltage. It used to be that the frequency was critical to many devices, but nowadays most devices don't depend on it.

  • @patrickmcnulty848

    @patrickmcnulty848

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@acmefixer1 Frequency is very important. If not held at 60 cycles here in the USA equipment starts overheating heating..

  • @captspiff6922

    @captspiff6922

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@acmefixer1 So what you are describing is an inverter which is not grid connected. For any grid connected inverter, it becomes a frequency follower, with a very small bias or "slope" toward standard. The conventional generator, as you mentioned is coupled, however it too has a "droop characteristic" which biases it toward standard (60hz in North America), which gives the grid stability.

  • @edc1569

    @edc1569

    3 жыл бұрын

    How does shedding load cause brown-outs, surely it causes black-outs?

  • @kwennemar
    @kwennemar3 жыл бұрын

    It's nice to see the inter-connected grid gaining ground. I read about this stuff 30 years ago and finally we are beginning to implement it.

  • @paulcox4369
    @paulcox43693 жыл бұрын

    Just a quick thank you, for your well presented and, without dumbing down the subject easy to follow videos. You are my go to channel on these matters.

  • @rararasputin4917
    @rararasputin49172 жыл бұрын

    Came across your channel last week and I’m loving the content!! It’s really refreshing and motivating to hear of different technology and ideas around renewables, after being stuck in the sphere where only problems, not solutions, were discussed.

  • @williammichaelcowling5248

    @williammichaelcowling5248

    Жыл бұрын

    There all at it.... Discussing the problems But No Real Solutions, just Blah Blah Blah

  • @ManfredvanDoorn
    @ManfredvanDoorn3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for all your work. I really learn a lot from you.

  • @garyl2981
    @garyl29813 жыл бұрын

    This channel is superb content. Great topics, keep em coming.

  • @omeganoobz

    @omeganoobz

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's wonderful for those techno yuppies who believe that renewables will save their future... Ain't happening

  • @brianwheeldon4643
    @brianwheeldon46433 жыл бұрын

    Excellent reportage and explanation as I've come to expect from this top youtube channel. It's a go-to for anyone interested in the key energy issues of today, from retirees to politicians, to teachers, the science community and high school students upwards. Many thanks

  • @hasanchoudhury5401
    @hasanchoudhury54012 жыл бұрын

    Best teacher on KZread ! I love your clear reasoning and explanations ! Regards.

  • @juliane__
    @juliane__2 жыл бұрын

    Your presentation of transforming our energy reliance is just wholesome. A big thank you for your videos. It is an additional showcase for the underlying unity of Europe. I would love to see cooperation with other channels, which need a bit more content. The more people are aware of what actually changes, the better we can prepare ourselves for the future. Whether you do or not, I will have a look at how Patreon works.

  • @learnmedia7629
    @learnmedia76293 жыл бұрын

    Watching Dave is like watching a highly focused and bang up to date Tomorrows World, most enjoyable.

  • @richardhumphrys5186
    @richardhumphrys51863 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation. Clear and articulate and well modulated (no droning).

  • @WindermereSun
    @WindermereSun3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the thorough and detailed explanations. Keep up the good work

  • @elputamen
    @elputamen3 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations from all of us Sir for the amount of work you put on each video. You make the world a better place

  • @agritech802
    @agritech802 Жыл бұрын

    Well done Dave, we're doing a community solar farm here in Ireland. I would also like to see governments encouraging community grid infrastructure as well as community energy storage, this would accelerate and extend rollout renewables within communities, it would also allow communities to benefit from revenues earned through the three components of renewable energy 👍👍

  • @chandrur6810

    @chandrur6810

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope the Communities are Filled with , Blood Related - JOINT FAMILIES OF MORALS = COMMON SENSE AS TO : - LIKE OTHERS AS THYSELF IN THOUGHTS , WORDS AND ACTIONS - WITH MATURITY AND ' SPAN OF CONTROL. EVERYTHING IS SIMPLE IF YOU KNOW MORAL GOVERNANCE AND MORAL SCIENCE. CHEERS. *

  • @scbaboss
    @scbaboss3 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating information well presented I definitely will look forward to seeing more of your presentations. Gladly will share with others.

  • @fredrikringnes265
    @fredrikringnes2653 жыл бұрын

    Great video .This one is spot on and with references to more reading. Love it !

  • @shadyislandchronicles4237
    @shadyislandchronicles42373 жыл бұрын

    I learned this in grad school ten years ago. You just summarized three semesters very well!

  • @nassinarogers4097
    @nassinarogers40973 жыл бұрын

    Just come across your channel and I have to say your content is amazing!🙌 You explain things so clearly yet keep a lot of detail. As a student and an energy nerd I've got to thank you for all the research and hardwork you put into your videos

  • @ValMartinIreland

    @ValMartinIreland

    Жыл бұрын

    You need to learn to count.

  • @ziborgbe
    @ziborgbe3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for that presentation, It has given me an overview on electrical grid distributed storage capacity trends. Here are few points that I could retain : energy individual

  • @Zhagg1
    @Zhagg13 жыл бұрын

    Love the vid and the concept! I think in our drive for new solutions, we forget old concepts. I think that chemical storage solutions are definitely going to be an integral part of renewable transition, but mechanical batteries could play a major role at the individual household level, or at a municipal level. These would provide safe, simple, independent energy storage solutions used in conjunction with a renewable grid and chem battery array. Load management system can coordinate the systems. Battery array allows for smoothing major needs, mech battery stands in for grid in times of low output, and in case of emergency blackout etc. The solutions are all around us. We need to dedicate the will, skill, time, and resources. Inaction is a choice.

  • @kenth151
    @kenth1513 жыл бұрын

    Just go with all Nuclear. This battery idea is a non starter. You are very right about how proponents of solar and wind do not understand the battery equation.

  • @yorick9435

    @yorick9435

    3 жыл бұрын

    And what do we do with the radioactive waste my good sir?

  • @AnthonyFlack

    @AnthonyFlack

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nuclear power currently makes up around 10% of global energy use, and at current rate of consumption the world's uranium supplies are estimated to last another 200 years. Ignoring the cost, difficulty and significant nuclear security concerns of building reactors everywhere, that uranium isn't going to last long if we start using it up ten times faster.

  • @greghelton4668

    @greghelton4668

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kent H thorium is a good candidate as the problem associated with waste and thermal runaway (meltdown) issues are mitigated. A mix of green and nuclear energy is probably the best way forward.

  • @autohmae

    @autohmae

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AnthonyFlack Fine by me, add a couple of decades of CO2 free power generation. I'm not against.

  • @michelangelobuonarroti916

    @michelangelobuonarroti916

    3 жыл бұрын

    Simple answer. Too expensive.

  • @MichaelLloydMobile
    @MichaelLloydMobile3 жыл бұрын

    I suggest you do a segment on liquid metal batteries provided by Ambri. Inexpensive, efficient and reliable with very low degradation, they offer an exceptional solution for grids and likely for businesses and homes.

  • @jasonhoman6525
    @jasonhoman65252 жыл бұрын

    This channel and content is simply amazing! Thank you!

  • @wombatbreath
    @wombatbreath3 жыл бұрын

    The importance of the FERC Order 841 being upheld cannot be overstated. I work for a DNSP/TNSP and invariably it is the legislation that we operate under that is what is holding innovation back and not the technology availability or the commercial interest in using it! Good stuff Dave.

  • @kiae-nirodiaries1279
    @kiae-nirodiaries12793 жыл бұрын

    This is a complex subject, well researched as ever and put into context. Recently retired, my last job was in the IoT space and Smart Grids were an application I studied. Storage changes everything and with batteries getting cheaper the opportunities for balancing the demand/supply equation and providing frequency response services to accommodate more renewables are increasing. The challenge is one of management which needs a lot of real-time data collection. Blockchain looks to be the best solution using connectivity technologies such as cellular, LPWA and MESH networks. We come from a world of a few power sources and many power loads, the new world is where millions of loads are also sources, e.g. electric vehicle batteries supporting V2G on the low voltage part of the grid. This is a potential nightmare from a management perspective but again IoT technology should be up to it. As we used to say, giga bytes are just as important as giga watts.

  • @teekay1785

    @teekay1785

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes but remember electric vehicles though providing a large load could also be a huge source and once the system has adapted to the demand of electric vehicles they could be a huge source to help balance demand like electric hot water tank remote utility controls have been. In other words shut the charge off to the vehicles and maybe even draw from their batteries down to a particular capacity.

  • @kiae-nirodiaries1279

    @kiae-nirodiaries1279

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@teekay1785 Yep, that’s about it. Just remember that every time power goes back and forth there’s a transaction to be done which is why I repeat, the Mega bytes are as important as the Mega Watts.

  • @Muppetkeeper
    @Muppetkeeper3 жыл бұрын

    An excellent and well researched presentation as usual. The good news is that the market is moving more quickly than the regulators, especially in some of those "developed" countries that love to dig their coal and burn it. I'm hoping that domestic batteries will be included in the upcoming UK efficiency grant scheme, that will be a game changer for me, allowing me to both store my own solar electricity, and buy grid electricity at lower rates during the two blocks of three hours a day that are really cheap in the UK. Leading on from this, that will bring the running costs of moving from gas central heating to air source heat pump central heating PRICE EQUIVALENT in the UK, which is where the carbon game really starts to change.

  • @RockCrushing777
    @RockCrushing7773 жыл бұрын

    Great video..like the research you do and the presentation.

  • @want2seeall
    @want2seeall3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video. We both have similar thoughts on this subject. Great job.

  • @pflernak
    @pflernak3 жыл бұрын

    3:05 Just a side note. High-Voltage direct current is used for really long distance power transfer as it has smaller transmission losses and the more expensive conversion equipment justifies itself in such a case. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current

  • @wcen5616
    @wcen56163 жыл бұрын

    I’m definitely studying the right thing

  • @Pr0Cre

    @Pr0Cre

    3 жыл бұрын

    what are you studying

  • @ittaiklein8541

    @ittaiklein8541

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jaded Cynic - and that won't begin before the psychopathic buffoon in the oval office is replaced by a sane person. And for that to happen, the world needs a miracle.

  • @omeganoobz

    @omeganoobz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whatever yo're studying it's already too late...unless it's permaculture, in which case it's also too late

  • @poisonduckee

    @poisonduckee

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wtf is going on here

  • @alexanderb7721

    @alexanderb7721

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Dongs Oi, microgreens are cool too, same for tiered farming and hydroponics. I recommend looking into how Belgium makes its food supply.

  • @davidgrim9853
    @davidgrim98533 жыл бұрын

    Love this channel!! Would dearly like to know at some point what we're glancing at stage right. (no worries, I do that too :)

  • @bocadelcieloplaya3852
    @bocadelcieloplaya38523 жыл бұрын

    Vermont has a program to subsidize the cost of home batteries that top off at night and then power the home during peak energy demand during the day to reduce the need for peaker plant operation. Sounds like a great start.

  • @markplott4820

    @markplott4820

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vermont homes still need Autobidder to buy/sell electricity and PRINT money for the homeowner.

  • @ulrichsuter3548

    @ulrichsuter3548

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like a good plan!

  • @rtfazeberdee3519

    @rtfazeberdee3519

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vermont are also on the path to building a liquid-air cryo-battery. Once there are millions of EVs that plug in at home, they will become a microgrid and perform the same service during peak hours

  • @williamgoode9114

    @williamgoode9114

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rtfazeberdee3519 well I know Tesla for one has abandoned the idea grid feed from car.

  • @incognitotorpedo42

    @incognitotorpedo42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamgoode9114 You know this for a fact? As of July 2020? They are set to announce a "million mile" battery, so I don't think they'll be worried about stressing that kind of cell with a little V2G. Grid service is far easier on batteries than EV use.

  • @davidwatson8118
    @davidwatson81183 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your informative videos 👍😎

  • @davidsweeney111
    @davidsweeney1113 жыл бұрын

    logical and educational video on a topic I had never thought of before, thanks!

  • @JBFromOZ
    @JBFromOZ3 жыл бұрын

    I just made a video today on this exact outcome, we have a massive grid scale regional and schools program being rolled out here in Western Australia, so exciting!

  • @liztaiNCAD
    @liztaiNCAD3 жыл бұрын

    I think I heard you say that electricity consumption in the US and Canada will be increasing - I thought we were all supposed to be looking for ways to REDUCE our consumption?

  • @MrMakabar

    @MrMakabar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Transport and heating are currently often done by fossil fuels. You can repalce them with electric technology, but your electrictity usage will logically go up.

  • @markplott4820

    @markplott4820

    3 жыл бұрын

    Elizabeth - America keeps growing, more homes built , which needs more food and more Goods . this takes alot of Energy. thankfully we will have a SUN that burns Hydrogen for the next 10,000 years or so . even IF we build all new homes with Solar , that energy is wasted w/o home battery Storage. Solar Roof + Battery can meet 90% of home Energy needs in an Entire Year. Commerical + Business can save $$$$ with Tesla Energy Storage.

  • @kensmith5694

    @kensmith5694

    3 жыл бұрын

    Total energy per person could decrease while a bigger fraction of it comes from electrical power. Heating with a "heat pump" in many places greatly reduces the energy needed. It, however, is a new electrical load on the system.

  • @incognitotorpedo42

    @incognitotorpedo42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kensmith5694 Yes, you and MrMakabar have it right. This is why electricity use will rise. If not for replacing fossil fuels, it would actually be falling because appliances, lighting, and HVAC are all getting more efficient.

  • @grindupBaker

    @grindupBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Elizabeth Cleary Humans are confidently expected to move to Canada from other locations on Earth. There's a negligible number of Canadians emigrating to the Middle East, India, southeast Asia, China, Europe, South America & Africa. I would confidently say negligible emigration from here. Only my uncle Fred's wife Anne returned to Blighty. I can add from personal experience that a sizable portion of these arrivees will purchase a power boat and/or jet skis as soon as they've had their cottage built.

  • @siggyincr7447
    @siggyincr74473 жыл бұрын

    Decentralized energy storage is where this is headed for a lot of good reasons. First and arguably most importantly, as it becomes more widespread it will make economic sense due to increased engineering expertise and the cost savings that come with mass production of the components needed. Secondly, storing energy closer to where it's being used reduces transmission losses during peak usage times, when they are most detrimental. And beyond the stabilizing effects on the electrical grid mentioned in this video, it will go a long way towards making renewables feasible for providing the bulk of our energy.

  • @Simon_Jakle__almost_real_name

    @Simon_Jakle__almost_real_name

    3 жыл бұрын

    I say a (partial) solution are big mechanical batteries and gravi-tricity (lasting long enough). We make hell out of nature generating electricity, so we can't trasure the value of it handling the current as a business, also because we do not know what an electron is made of. Blockchain itself will still be a too hungry thing ("mis-trusting" people, that don't try to learn about electric current), i can't think of blockchain having gotten less complicated

  • @TheSpecio

    @TheSpecio

    3 жыл бұрын

    Run your house with solar power and you will need lead batteries worth about 200,000 Euros to provide sufficient energy storage to become independent from the grid for up to 2 weeks (Times without sufficient usable sunshine can last much longer!). These batteries have a lifespan of 10 years after which you need a new set. And lead batteries are and will be by far the cheapest batteries of all.

  • @siggyincr7447

    @siggyincr7447

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheSpecio Who was taking about fully autonomous electrical supply from solar?

  • @crosstrainme

    @crosstrainme

    3 жыл бұрын

    See it as a contest between the economies of scale and economies of mass production. Before 2000, economies of scale justified huge power stations. Now the advantage of bigness isn't so clear. But the arguments are confused by government meddling, cross-subsidies, etc.

  • @TheSpecio

    @TheSpecio

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@siggyincr7447 I am! Because if you are not fully autonomous you expect that others (Your neighbors!) are going to pay for your dream. You are 'saving' by buying less electric power from the grid. But you expect that the grid will be kept so strong and efficient that it can provide you any moment with as much power as you want, which ist, of course, very expensive for the power company. That's why the company has to charge your neighbors more. Such behavior is parasitic.

  • @john1boggity56
    @john1boggity562 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for this wonderful channel - I have learnt a lot from your careful research and methodical presentations.

  • @Prof.Polymath
    @Prof.Polymath3 жыл бұрын

    Great presentation thank you for sharing.

  • @88888888tiago
    @88888888tiago3 жыл бұрын

    Very good video about a revolution that is undergoing without major public attention.

  • @vincentrobinette1507

    @vincentrobinette1507

    3 жыл бұрын

    The trick is, to get the turbines in BEFORE the land is developed for housing. That way, the machines are in place, the developers work around them, and anyone buying the homes see that they're there, and accept it. If you try to install the turbines AFTER the homes are occupied, it might start a riot. People just don't like change. It's best to set up ahead of the population.

  • @omeganoobz

    @omeganoobz

    3 жыл бұрын

    You call that a revolution ? I call it the ultimate joke of our dying industrial world.

  • @Johnny-dp5mu

    @Johnny-dp5mu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@omeganoobz hmm is it true: current human population could not survive [as we do] but for the advanced industrial complex and energy from fossil fuels? what would be the limits imposed by horse and buggy technology? just think of the limits of medicine and biological/chemistry/computer sciences...my my one takes these as god given rights today? think man please!!

  • @davidwatson8118

    @davidwatson8118

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@omeganoobz Do you light your house with Candles, Whale oil or kerosene?

  • @omeganoobz

    @omeganoobz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidwatson8118 You completely missed the point. Fossil fuels have no future, and renewables are in the same boat but for different reasons. We're headed for a slow agrarian life, where only those able to grow food without fertilizers and machines will survive. Buy some candles, it will be useful.

  • @SejalPatelDrSej
    @SejalPatelDrSej3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing time to be alive !

  • @omeganoobz

    @omeganoobz

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have no idea.

  • @bryankirk3567
    @bryankirk3567 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Sir, I am way less confused by "Energy usage" now. I'm still confused but you have helped a lot. Ta

  • @greengodess2378
    @greengodess23783 жыл бұрын

    Very well explained, super helpful, Super Dave! Thanks

  • @edmundjakopchek9836
    @edmundjakopchek98363 жыл бұрын

    The best customer of a mega-pack would be the energy producer themselves. You could run your plant at near peak 24/7 and meet a high demand peak with ease. Power companies would clean up with this investment.

  • @juanasenjo8515

    @juanasenjo8515

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think so. Regional power generators are on their way out as customers themselves can generate and store more than enough of their needs, and sell the excess to the power companies. Eventually, centralized generators will give way to the millions of roof-top generators which will fee the grid evenly and uninterrupted. In fact, the electrical grid itself will also eventually cease to exist unless your neighborhood opts for an energy co-op.

  • @dale116dot7

    @dale116dot7

    3 жыл бұрын

    Juan Asenjo It depends, some energy sources can be scaled, such as PV solar. But some energy sources need scale to be efficient, I would expect a mix of regional and local generation would be needed.

  • @kaitlyn__L

    @kaitlyn__L

    3 жыл бұрын

    exactly Edmund, they can design their plant to run at max all the time, and allow storage to absorb the brief demand peaks. just like how a water tower trickles full and releases it all in a few hours in the evening. on-site storage is becoming a big thing on renewable developments, but every generator could gain by it. especially nuclear, which likes to run at max (although modern designs can throttle down to 25% - a battery would still allow much more warning and a slower ramp time when they need to turn up to 50 or 100%, and also make it simpler to run them slower in the summer than the winter)

  • @edc1569

    @edc1569

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@juanasenjo8515 I assume you live in sunny California or something - a lot of the world isn't blessed with the combination of more solar when they need more output - most places its the other way around.

  • @GroovyVideo2
    @GroovyVideo23 жыл бұрын

    Flow batteries for grid look good

  • @markplott4820

    @markplott4820

    3 жыл бұрын

    NOPE , already DEBUNKED by science.

  • @kurthaselwimmer9545

    @kurthaselwimmer9545

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed the world's largest battery is currently being built at 800MWh in the CENTRE of Dalian city in China (pop 8 million people)

  • @incognitotorpedo42

    @incognitotorpedo42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@markplott4820 Debunked by "science"? Do tell. They haven't caught on like Li-ion, but flow batteries are real. There's nothing wrong with the science behind them.

  • @oliverharder9057

    @oliverharder9057

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check out Redflow.com. Flow batteries are commercially available now. I think the DEBUNKED comment is a coal industry troll.

  • @neverleftthe80s29
    @neverleftthe80s29 Жыл бұрын

    My view at the moment is - if you have solar panels get a decent sized battery or 2 added to the system. That needs to be government policy the world over. It will help enormously and a bonus is that your solar will continue to work when there is a power outage, during the sunlight hours of course. You get your own power station. Great video. Greetings from Australia.

  • @ValMartinIreland

    @ValMartinIreland

    Жыл бұрын

    In other words you want someone else to pay for you novelty?

  • @ittaiklein8541
    @ittaiklein85413 жыл бұрын

    Very good elucidation of the issues. First time for me on the channel, and I subscribed. (I subscribe to no more than one or two channels a year!)

  • @juliangreaves4727
    @juliangreaves47273 жыл бұрын

    Second :-) That was good. I needed a think. Thanks Dave, nicely done as always.

  • @craigwall9536

    @craigwall9536

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any particular reason you couldn't have done that on your own?

  • @manofcultura
    @manofcultura3 жыл бұрын

    I hope they apply energy storage to oil production too. Currently whenever I fly over North Dakota at night I see them flaring millions of tons of natural gas.

  • @acmefixer1

    @acmefixer1

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least they're burning the methane. Here in So California the gas company had a huge leak in the underground storage for months and had to evacuate areas. I wonder how much greenhouse gas equivalent that released? The gas company got in trouble for that disaster.

  • @alkhan5445
    @alkhan54452 жыл бұрын

    This is the best channel I’ve seen on sustainable energy.

  • @Cl0ckcl0ck
    @Cl0ckcl0ck3 жыл бұрын

    Nice one! If we add Norway to the north and with Switzerland in the south there could be more than enough hydro-energy storage to keep the whole thing nice and steady. Then a big chuck of solar in the very dry Spanish interior and we'll be much less dependable on Russian and Arab fossil fuel. The EU has plenty of drawbacks but things like this really show it's worth.

  • @williamgoode9114
    @williamgoode91143 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't it help to spread grids east to west to extend solar "day length"

  • @useodyseeorbitchute9450

    @useodyseeorbitchute9450

    3 жыл бұрын

    Transfer isn't so cheap. Long high voltage power lines are NIMBY and protested even by so called Greens. Quite soon one runs out of countries to interconnect because of political reasons or reaching an ocean. Setting this aside? Yes cool, should be pushed further, but actually would be quite tedious job.

  • @markp8295

    @markp8295

    3 жыл бұрын

    For homes in Germany, they now encourage that. It increases payback time but attenuates production. Since investors want fast payback, that's currently not happening. But tracking systems are also being used by some arrays that get the best of both, so long as maintenance is minimal. Many different systems claiming to be the best. Some use electronics, others are mechanical. The simpler, the better.

  • @useodyseeorbitchute9450

    @useodyseeorbitchute9450

    3 жыл бұрын

    @bk_16 When we're going in to such details - even with winter you at least get evening peak demand at least slightly spread out, assuming your "cable" ;) starts in Portugal and ends in Finland.

  • @aresgood1

    @aresgood1

    3 жыл бұрын

    what if we had one giant global grid? using underwater power cables of millions of volts to connect the continents? this way we can run everything on solar

  • @patdbean

    @patdbean

    3 жыл бұрын

    The UK's 2gw connector to France was built for that reason , to use the hour time difference to smooth the peak demand.

  • @fireofenergy
    @fireofenergy3 жыл бұрын

    Nice! And as always, can't wait for battery day ;-)

  • @incognitotorpedo42

    @incognitotorpedo42

    3 жыл бұрын

    If only the doomsters knew what battery day was, and what the significance of it is. Maybe they'd be less gloomy.

  • @PrivateSi

    @PrivateSi

    3 жыл бұрын

    I knew a Young Man, that swallowed a fly, I don't know why he swallowed a fly, perhaps he'll DIE!... He swallowed the fly to catch the spider that wriggled and wriggled and wiggled in CIDER... He swallowed a bird trying to catch the fly, with his MONSTROUS OPPRESSIVE WIND TURBINES.... -- If you think your uber-techno, more, More, MORE, new, NEW, NEO JUNK economy is ever going to be more green, globally, or locally for that matter, you are a brainwashed tool of uber-liberal capitalist and uber-liberal socialist money junkies on crack'n'roids... A bunch of techno-Nazti HITLERS... -- You Me-Too-Poly-Ton La La Lander techno-waster FAKE GREENZ deserve nothing less than mass extinction.. Screw your global Lithium (+Neodymium/cobalt) economy, crap'n'trade bo££ock$.... You are the scum of the Earth, you and your LIBERAL GLOBAL ECONOMY.... -- No new anything in the UK. Let the economy die and kick out 10 million people and start again for a start.. Make do and mend and only buy second hand stuff from now on, except food, then I will forgive you and deem you worthy of life All urban areas should have minimum 50% food independence via vertical farms. Should be 75%. Grain crops should be banned. Grass fed organic livestock have more space.

  • @incognitotorpedo42

    @incognitotorpedo42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PrivateSi Ecofascist.

  • @PrivateSi

    @PrivateSi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@incognitotorpedo42 .. I don't agree with fascism, I promote individual action... Collectively I promote constitionally limited Direct Democracy within a minarchist, as automated-as-possible state and capitalist economy apart from National Essentials that should be 51% owned by each citizen equally, minimum, dividends count towards number of years worked linked auto-benefits. Personally I don't buy new junk and think the me-too-poly-ton hypocrite Wasters are all junkies.. But it's a Neo-Waster's World, Neo Wasters... Thorium Salt Reactors are CLEAN AND MUCH BETTER VALUE, You Renewable Junk Sucker Fascists.. KEEP IT SIMPLE. Modular floating offshore power systems that are much safer and extremely POWER-DENSE, you dense fake greenz.

  • @PrivateSi

    @PrivateSi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@incognitotorpedo42 .. Another typically pathetic libtarded response... A crap insult that fails to address any issue that bursts their La La Lander bubble-brain... You people are not fit to own brain.

  • @marekmat8040
    @marekmat80402 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. Looks like great things are happening!

  • @jackripper5240
    @jackripper52403 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video Dave! Well done!

  • @bulletbob
    @bulletbob3 жыл бұрын

    The rate of collapse of fossil fuel energy will be startling. Well done, thanks for posting.

  • @Johnny-dp5mu

    @Johnny-dp5mu

    3 жыл бұрын

    funny thing about peak oil -- it keeps on repeating -- time and time again; of course it is limited -- we just have little idea yet on 'how limited' -- is it an emergency or crisis?

  • @bulletbob

    @bulletbob

    3 жыл бұрын

    Johnny It doesn’t matter anymore, because batteries have gotten cheaper than fossil fuels, so economics will take over. Non-subsidized solar plus batteries are cheaper than any fossil fuel power plant. No one is going to build another coal-fired power plant - they are too expensive to operate. Even natural gas power plants are iffy. So today, with the cost of batteries still declining, economics favor solar/battery technologies, so that’s what is getting built. And as batteries continue to decline in price, the economics for solar/battery plants will only get better. The game-changer, as he said, is the declining cost and superior performance of battery storage.

  • @awesomedavid2012

    @awesomedavid2012

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bulletbob batteries are made using fossil fuels they're insanely bad for the environment. Use solar during the day and fossil fuels at night until we develop large scale safe nuclear infrastructure.

  • @Johnny-dp5mu

    @Johnny-dp5mu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bulletbob time will surely tell -- it will take many gas fired power plants to produce sufficient battery capacity to overcome demand and limitations of wind and sun -- how much time is highly questionable with the volatility of government social order around the world -- currently there is no free lunch so many think there is with wind and solar, but dreams are wonderful -- all the very best

  • @bulletbob

    @bulletbob

    3 жыл бұрын

    awesomedavid2012 Be wary of propaganda that promotes the status quo. “Batteries are terrible for the environment” is just propaganda. Decentralized power generation is good for everyone, except bad for executive bonuses, so propaganda is generated to preserve their bonuses. Battery manufacturing continues to get better, and it’s already net positive for the environment. Nothing is static. It’s not hard to see the winning path for batteries, as this video showed. Battery storage is better than any power plant because you can store power for use later, instead having to ramp up power generation as needed, which is crazy expensive. Nuclear will never happen, that technology has been dead for decades. It’s just not gonna happen. We already have a huge fusion reactor in the sky, so let’s tap into that Usonian simple, safe solar panels - just like everything else on earth already does. Be wary of propaganda that promotes the static quo.

  • @jwfcp
    @jwfcp3 жыл бұрын

    There is a certain danger in saying "once we have storage solved, then we can go alternative", much like saying we need to get to zero, it presents an impossible goal so that the status quo can continue floundering along. Spinning up and down can be accomplished with natural gas to yield big co2 reduction while still taking big steps in the right direction. Also, please no block chain, its a gimmick, there is already such a thing as accounting, we don't need an inefficient form of it where everytime a transaction is made, we need to process every transaction it has ever been in all over again, huge waste of power.

  • @chargedupsolar4648

    @chargedupsolar4648

    3 жыл бұрын

    The narrative in your comment's is indeed noted. Blockchain is a gimmick? Natural gas? co2 reduction? Inefficient cryptographic formula. Without co2 this construct would die. Natural gas is a joke.This realm is reverse technology we already had free energy but free does not pay. The gas turbine engine like on the jets buses trains Formula one cars and motoGP uses no fuel, also know as free energy. Of course many factory's use this technology. Compressed air. The electric universe we live on uses skyscrapers also known as power stations to gather aether to power city's. It's all here for us by the creator but again free does not pay.

  • @edc1569

    @edc1569

    3 жыл бұрын

    You don't have to validate a blockchain by going back to the beginning - of course you could do that - but it's not necessary for most user applications.

  • @BobBob-kr5wr
    @BobBob-kr5wr3 жыл бұрын

    Its always nice to hear your voice. Good video.

  • @BrianSmith-li3zs
    @BrianSmith-li3zs3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for helping. #Briansmithenergy #wellbeing #weareguildford. Love, respect and gratitude

  • @elsiegel84
    @elsiegel843 жыл бұрын

    When the cost of grid storage falls below the cost of fossil fuels, it is all over for carbon. From Don Sadoway MIT/Ambri

  • @kensmith5694

    @kensmith5694

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least for any stationary purpose, it is true. Aircraft may be a harder problem.

  • @grindupBaker

    @grindupBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure that it's necessary to add in the amortized Capital Cost of generating electricity from sunshine, plus the extra wiring. Those will not be insignificant. 80,000 kms of coastline with 10MW wind turbines at 500-metre spacing in ranks of 55 wind turbines per column stretching out 27 km into the ocean all over Earth so's ships will travel between parallel columns of 55 wind turbines each column to reach the shore anywhere on Earth is not a trivial-cost project.

  • @creator7583

    @creator7583

    3 жыл бұрын

    It demands unclear , as to now storage creates more co2 , coal the biggest generator of electricity. China coal plants coming 6 years , most aggressive ever. Germany used more coal leaving nuclear , plan is replacing coal with natural gas .Storage is going to increase co2 emissions , leaving that out sounds better for the average man, €€€$$ is the goal.

  • @darthvader5300

    @darthvader5300

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really? Wait when the weather and climate becomes more like the Arctic and Antarctica, then you will really regret saying your words!

  • @ramblerandy2397

    @ramblerandy2397

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@creator7583 You need to edit just a little more, re: unclear/nuclear, plus a couple of other things. Battery storage is a one time emitter per item - during production. It will massively decrease CO2 emissions eventually. Fossil fuel emits all the time. Nuclear emits massively during construction. Did you not think of that?

  • @MountainMetal
    @MountainMetal3 жыл бұрын

    Not anytime soon. New systems and technologies have to earn their way on merit, not on feelings.

  • @omeganoobz

    @omeganoobz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Not tomorrow, and not the day after either.

  • @paulberton7997
    @paulberton79972 жыл бұрын

    Dave, love your presentations. Presently listening to your explanation of how the electrical “grid” system works and how renewables fit in this process. Why do I envision the elimination of the “grid” as renewables and storage get better and stronger, making end users totally independent.

  • @KnightMirkoYo
    @KnightMirkoYo3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. It's unfortunate we didn't start the transition much earlier, but still high hopes for the future.

  • @marekstepanek6501
    @marekstepanek65013 жыл бұрын

    Really impressing your film. The illustration of it let me think, that there is a big lobby behind your channel. Love your British accent. Me as a German (please forgive me my English!) am sceptical against so called renewable energy. Because we already pay for it very high. We have the highest energy prices in Europe, probably in the world. We live constantly close to a blackout. If we have had no neighbours with coal or nuclear plants, our system would crash very often. 2018 we have had two critical moments in our grid. In your film you are showing a beautiful landscape at the beach "decorated" with many windmills. This was a symbolic picture: human greediness and ideology destroying nature! My point is not: I am against electrical storage. No! Not at all! This is even the crucial problem of renewables. I am for obligatory solar panels on flat roofs in industrial areas. But I am against Solar Parks on fertile soil or in woods, against cornfields for our electrical comfort. Simply because of the efficiency of renewables, the so called EROI (Energy Return on Investment), which is too low. For that reason they need a big area to compensate. Photovoltaic has an EROI of 1.6, Biomass 3.5, Wind 3.9, Gas 28, Coal 30, Water 35. In comparison to it the old veteran of Pressurized Water Reactor has an EROI of 75! Which is not too bad. The windmills are meanwhile as high as the television tower in Stuttgart. The concrete weights 7000 Tonnes. The socle of 3500 Tonnes is left for ever in the soil. The wings are impossible to recycle - they still look for an solution for this problem. And many birds and insects are victim of this sort of environmental protection. But if you compare the renewables with the new concepts of nuclear power plants of fourth generation, you will understand, that the increasing demand of energy needs a new investment of nuclear plants of the fourth generation: MSR, LFTR or DFR: They have an EROI starting from 1000 up to 2000, some people of the DFR-Team claim even an EROI of 4000! They are safe ("Walk away Security"), they are modular, fit into a container and the best of all: they burn up the nuclear waste of our good old Pressurized Water Nuclear Plants. Ah, I forgot: they produce energy very very cheap. Ah, one point more: because they run with Thorium, they could produce for the next 1000 years, without leaving behind tonnes of garbage with a long decay as the old nuclear plants. Because of the high process heat from 1000 Grade Celsius, you could add to such a plant innovative techniques like: PowerToGas with Hydrogen Production, Synthetic Fuel, LOHC, NanoFlowcell, Seawater Desalination, Long-Distance Heating. These added spin-offs could solve many problems around the globe. And the power plants themselves could help, to give back nature to nature, because these plants don't need space. Specially in Germany the Green politics have destroyed big terrains of woods with the windmills, fertile land with solar panels. And they call this environmental protection, and declare it as nature protection, which is not the same! But we do not need this sort of environmental protection. We need a new wilderness for biodiversity. In Europe there are no virgin forests anymore (ok, in Poland, the Białowieża National Parc). Just have a think!

  • @LuckyM83

    @LuckyM83

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely agree. You mentioned thorium which remind me Rubbia ,italian like I am but with Nobel prize. In Italy we are masochist and prefer to kick all the brains out in change of some desperates from Africa . It happened with Enrico Fermi too, who built atomic bomb for Usa instead of us . We would have won the ww2 with that and probably nuclear power would have been more important then oil now .

  • @acmefixer1

    @acmefixer1

    3 жыл бұрын

    The researchers have experimented with agrivoltaics, where the solar panels are located in farms. The plants grow bigger leaves to compensate for the shade. There are no conflicts with putting wind turbines among the fields of farms. I have nothing against nuclear power, but it's very unfair for anyone to say that renewables are harming the Earth! That's what this German is saying. The harm is being caused by a fossil-fueled world and it's absolutely necessary to get rid of all CO2 causing sources. One point people fail to talk about is that thermal power plants -- nuclear too -- require a huge amount of water to keep the plant cool. This is a major problem for locating these plants, so they are located close to water. The German complained about wind turbines; there are more huge high voltage towers with thermal power plants. Wake up world! Thorium or any nuclear material is not renewable. The problems in Germany are not problems for all other countries.

  • @acmefixer1

    @acmefixer1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @star cruiser You don't know what you are talking about. You are nothing but a fool.

  • @mikemccarthy1638

    @mikemccarthy1638

    3 жыл бұрын

    Marek Stepanek - That is a fine exposition, my friend, of the benefits of nuclear power, especially in densely-populated Europe. “Desperation is the Mother of Re-invention” should be Germany’s motto if it ever wakes up to its energy mistake, after Fukushima, in closing its nuclear power plants that still have years left of CO2-free power production: If they’re not restarted, the CO2 produced in their construction added to the climate crisis for no benefit. Even worse, the country burns brown coal to replace the lost power. How the greens can be happy with this, much the same as they do here in the US, says a lot about their unreasoning fear of nuclear power. The coal, oil & gas interests spent large sums to deny the climate crisis & postpone action to address it for decades. Natural gas was once suggested as “the bridge fuel” to a green economy, but the delays have made that impossible if we’re to avoid the worst consequences of global heating. The bridge fuel now is nuclear, at least until we’ve reached the point of negative growth in CO2 concentrations. If the greens had been able to stop the fossil fuel industry from spreading their climate denial propaganda, they could have bought the time needed to avoid temporary resort to nuclear. For understandable reasons, they failed. Now it’s time to face reality: For the next 50 years or so, we either use nuclear or sustain dramatic reductions in living standards in order to avoid industrial collapse and eventual extinction. A little more perspective to close - Back in the ‘70s & ‘80s, at least until climate scientist James Hansen testified to the US Congress in 1988 of the seriousness of humanity’s situation, the term “Global Warming” might have been good for giving us a gentle wake-up call about the developing science. But now we need words that accurately describe our terrestrial reality - “The Climate Crisis, Ocean Acidification and Global Heating” (Ocean Acidification comes first, because few people even know it’s happening, never mind that it’s caused by fossil fuel pollution.)

  • @mikemccarthy1638

    @mikemccarthy1638

    3 жыл бұрын

    @acme fixer - The greens around the world have spread unreasoning fear of nuclear power for decades while tens of millions suffered unhealthy lives & premature deaths from fossil fuel pollution, esp. from coal-caused CO2 & SO2 pollution, fine coal particulates, coal dust & mercury pollution. As for Germany, as was explained, it shares its problems with the rest of densely-populated Europe, w/ its interconnected electricity grid. Assume the rest of Europe had followed Germany after Fukushima in shutting down nuclear in favor of burning stuff like brown coal (while at the same time allowing the expansion of diesel vehicles as they did): Europe would have experienced depression-like conditions & a health crisis like China’s. Their gov’ts, industry & homeowners would not have the funds to expand wind & solar. The Euro-zone would now resemble something more like Central & Eastern Europe around the time of the fall of the Soviet Union. Would the EU have survived; how would terrorism have played out in the new slums of Europe; how much more aggressively would the Russians have behaved; how much more would reactionary conservatism have grown beyond say, Hungary & Turkey (you can start with France...); what would have happened to the Syrian refugees, most blocked from entering Europe; and how would that weakened EU/NATO, with a stronger Russia, have played out in Trump’s America? Now go up one level higher: Many Muslims in MENA, from Morocco to Iran, have respected Europe’s social democratic traditions of medical care and other social & educational services for all that have prevented the levels of poverty found in the US & elsewhere: how might their changed attitudes have affected things today?)

  • @johnmeyer8129
    @johnmeyer81293 жыл бұрын

    Seasonal storage is a huge obstacle to renewable (electric) systems. A home in Canada's far north can require stored energy for 4 or 5 months a year and given the very high demand during the winter, would require approximately $4 million in Tesla Powerwalls to assure safe levels of heating. However, geothermal storage of low grade (heat) energy offers storage at under 1% of the cost of electrical energy storage. See "The Renewable Energy Transition, Realities for Canada and the World" for the concept and some hard numbers and examples. Electricity is a high grade energy but we have to also learn to use low grade energy (heat) if we are going to make renewables work.

  • @markp8295

    @markp8295

    3 жыл бұрын

    Investing in better insulation is usually cheaper than investing in alternative power sources. Reducing winter loss and need for Summer AC is more important than supply as reduction hits carbon footprint for less money in a short space of time with lower skill installation. This also makes seasonal changes more manageable.

  • @CarFreeSegnitz

    @CarFreeSegnitz

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a good thing then that the high north are so sparsely populated. Nunavut has a total population of roughly 40,000, a vast region with a population of a small town.

  • @johnmeyer8129

    @johnmeyer8129

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CarFreeSegnitz Absolutely. The populate the "empty" north is a developers fantasy that would be an environmental disaster. The Inuit population over about 1.4 million sq km pre-European contact was around 2000. The increase in population is mainly due to cheap fossil fuels which have built in storage.

  • @JustHaveaThink

    @JustHaveaThink

    3 жыл бұрын

    And you may have an opportunity to develop long term salt cavern hydrogen storage up there in Canada too I think?

  • @johnmeyer8129

    @johnmeyer8129

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JustHaveaThink I haven't followed salt cavern hydrogen storage - it must have a very low profile here. We do have salt caverns but they are in the south of the country - where we still will need large seasonal storage - but I doubt there are any salt caverns in the far north. I am generally negative on hydrogen as it is so lossey. However, one big advantage is it's high recyclability as the tanks are stainless steel. Unlike electrical batteries which would be much more difficult to recycle. For a great example of geothermal heat storage see the development of ~60 homes in Okotoks, Alberta called Drake Landing. Great stats over several years of real world usage. They are registering a COP of up to 30:1. Spectacular!

  • @michaelchandler490
    @michaelchandler4903 жыл бұрын

    Find your work very useful! Thanks.

  • @firefox39693
    @firefox396933 жыл бұрын

    I think this is a great idea. This has a lot of potential here in Canada.

  • @kayjay9383
    @kayjay93833 жыл бұрын

    We are just a group of neighbors in Pennsylvania,U.S.A. Tinkering around with an old air conditioner. We have been somewhat successful in using wind and solar power to power the compressor of the air conditioner to compress the freon in a much larger reservoir than the original a/c unit used. We are working on the principle of kinetic energy to even out the day/night; wind/no wind. Now we can only get enough storage to run an led light bulb (7watts) all night or approximately 8.7 hours. None of us are chemists so we just use freon. Perhaps researchers with degrees in applied physics and chemistry can find a better compress able gas to liquid formula and make this a form of battery.

  • @markplott4820

    @markplott4820

    3 жыл бұрын

    FREON is a Greenhouse gas and is NOT Sustainable. Renewables is more Powerful and more carbon neutral . TESLA is working on a 100% Electric HVAC with no gears, pulleys or Belts.

  • @richardlangley90

    @richardlangley90

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@markplott4820 Mark, I read that Elon was toying with the idea of developing an efficient HVAC system for buildings but I cannot find anything that suggests there will be no moving parts (I assume that is what you are suggesting...modern HVAC systems use direct drive for air handlers (no belts or gears) and compressors are direct drive as well.)

  • @kensmith5694

    @kensmith5694

    3 жыл бұрын

    On airconditioning: If you have water supplies, a "desiccent cycle" solar power air conditioner is the way to go. It goes like this: 1) The sun is used to dry the water out of some desiccent. 2) This desiccent is used to dry the water out of a fair amount of air but this makes the air hotter and dry. 3) The dry air is cooled to outdoors temperature. 4) The air path is split into two and one has quite a lot of water added. 5) This much cooler but too wet air is used to cool the other path. 6) The now cooler dry air has some water added and that goes into the living space. There is a method that can do even better with doing a 2 of the 2 way splits but this uses about double the water.

  • @williamgoode9114

    @williamgoode9114

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice initiative, but tragic, 7X9=63watthour. Last week's talk on liquid air, although very much on an industrial scale is a "cleaner" gas than Freon. Try just thermal storage, like ice for cooling or water for heating and run your heat pump off that. For electricity storage, batteries are best. They have made air conditioning vehicle system with out belt and pulleys for many years, PRIUS had electric HVAC twenty years ago and home units have always been electric.

  • @kensmith5694

    @kensmith5694

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@markplott4820 The problem with FREON is not the greenhouse effect. The "TESLA" system is a known existing method. Sadly, it takes more energy than the existing designs. In a car it may not matter much. It can be extremely reliable.

  • @metn84
    @metn843 жыл бұрын

    I notice small nuances (hard to name them as they are more related to body language) which make your representation even better. Good job and great video! 😊

  • @grindupBaker

    @grindupBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    I Think I noticed hair growing on Mister Think's pate. I hope this isn't the start of lycothranpy., You never know with all this Covid-19.

  • @frequentlycynical642
    @frequentlycynical642 Жыл бұрын

    My grandmother lived in an apartment in Manhattan that had DC power! I've wondered if that building ever upgraded. She had a gas stove and a refrigerator that was electric, but it was of the adsorption type. Used to be very common as any source of heat can be used, and have been. Some campers have dual fuel refrigerators. Electricity and when not available, propane.

  • @notlessgrossman163
    @notlessgrossman1633 жыл бұрын

    Excellent coverage for a very relevant topic

  • @johnhasse3995
    @johnhasse39953 жыл бұрын

    It staggers me that so many people don't appreciate the difference between 'storage' and 'creation'. Batteries don't MAKE energy.

  • @Unmannedair

    @Unmannedair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right? And they also forget that without that HORRIBLE petrol you couldn't make the fiber glass or resin for their wind turbines or the silica for the solar panels or the refined lithium for their batteries or the concrete for the hydro dams or the steel for the generators.

  • @samt.863

    @samt.863

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Unmannedair But the difference is that the fossil fuels used to make these products is not combusted, therefore not producing carbon during the process. More so, the initial use of those fossils offsets the need to continuously burn fossils for energy throughout the lifetime of the project...resulting in approx 1% of the amount of fossils used. Surely you understand that.

  • @tsamuel6224

    @tsamuel6224

    3 жыл бұрын

    @tzar 1917 I find it peculiar that you didn't have anything at all to say. Surely you know if you tried to actually say something you would sound pure idiot.

  • @samt.863

    @samt.863

    3 жыл бұрын

    @tzar 1917 Thanks for resorting to name calling instead of making an intelligent reply...because, in doing so, you confirmed what we already knew about you.

  • @MatthewBerginGarage

    @MatthewBerginGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@samt.863 But the world needs more Carbon Dioxide it is the main building block of all life on this planet. More is better👍😎

  • @haloclips5387
    @haloclips53873 жыл бұрын

    @justhaveathink Have u heard of Ecosia? Maybe you'd like to make a video about them. : )

  • @bsrobinson
    @bsrobinson3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your clear and detailed videos!

  • @richardmcdonald7565
    @richardmcdonald75653 жыл бұрын

    An informative and very interesting program. Thanks :-)

  • @liferetriever4188
    @liferetriever41883 жыл бұрын

    “Use blockchain to track energy production ...”. The cost of per unit energy will be times more.

  • @usejasiri

    @usejasiri

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sure ?

  • @jiminycricket9877

    @jiminycricket9877

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yes, multiples, more.

  • @frankjmoeller5326
    @frankjmoeller53263 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU FOR THIS CHANNEL! IT CLLEARLY EXPLAINS HOW THE TRANSITION TO A FOSSIL FUEL FREE POWERED SOCIETY WILL TAKE PLACE....FRANK MOELLER

  • @MatthewBerginGarage

    @MatthewBerginGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Never happen. Waste of time.

  • @adamspencer5097
    @adamspencer50973 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for how you explain things.

  • @iainmackenzieUK
    @iainmackenzieUK3 жыл бұрын

    Exciting stuff! Many thanks :)

  • @johndoyle4723
    @johndoyle47233 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, a very interesting discussion. I have spent my entire career in recycling and alternative energy projects and very good to now see it so openly discussed.

  • @tscoffey1
    @tscoffey13 жыл бұрын

    "all participating participants" - Because those non-participating participants are so pesky to pin down.

  • @TheHead9999

    @TheHead9999

    3 жыл бұрын

    Looks like 'oor oil' is in the deep doo doos.

  • @craigwall9536

    @craigwall9536

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...and almost as hard as finding a comment that has been proofread and edited.

  • @bobkoure
    @bobkoure3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! One (very!) minor nit: transformers are not used to drop voltage to 120VAC in the US for household usage. It comes in as 240 two-phase and is split to 120 (no transformer needed) at the distribution box in the building. Things like electric stoves, heat pumps, and car chargers are typically wired for 240. It's split to 120 to make it safer. If you look at the old 'tube and insulator' residential wiring used when this first became standard, it makes a lot of sense. But yes, AC is the key to electric distribution. We have Nikolai Tesla to thank for that.

  • @ianmurray250

    @ianmurray250

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, UK uses 440v three phase to a local distribution transformer and then sends 220v single phase to each home.

  • @fortruegood8591
    @fortruegood85913 жыл бұрын

    Great day of great facts for me. Really feels good to know this information.

  • @ferkeap
    @ferkeap3 жыл бұрын

    Think what would be possible if we keep our Nuclear Energy. If Germany would have kept 20-40 GW of reliable energy production.

  • @TheSpecio

    @TheSpecio

    3 жыл бұрын

    True! Just 50 nuclear power plants could produce all of Germanys electric energy, no need for storage because the source is extremely reliable, no 100,000 wind turbines, cheapest energy of all (electricity price in France is already just half as high as in Germany and Germany is still very, very far away of its goal of 100% renewable electricity and has NO storage at all at the moment))

  • @Leicht_Sinn

    @Leicht_Sinn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheSpecio well Germany will defintly lower the energy prices in few years quite a lot due to the now closing of coal and nuclear they now have to get a lot of money to build up the renewable energy also at the moment extra fees to get to a cleaner energy are in place We are at a peak of energy cost in Germany if we get more sutainable again prices will go way down solar energy is less the 1cent/kw wind and biomass are around 3-6 cent/kw nuclear cost more then 30 cent/kw what we shouldn't forget there is no long term storage at the moment for the nuclear waste -> which is a major cost factor not included in the nuclear price tag

  • @Atite_Lometen

    @Atite_Lometen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Leicht_Sinn You know nothing jon snow...natural gas is going no where, the only thing is going to happen is that gas is going to replace coal for a cleaner solution, or even nuclear in the case of Germany.

  • @Leicht_Sinn

    @Leicht_Sinn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Atite_Lometen ? Nuclear Germany ehmm wtf Germany litterly is closing old nulcear plants over the last decades and isn't building anymore Due to the storage problem and public opinion over nuclea power Natural gas is another way germany will buffer deficits in the electric network Gas plants can be turned on in minutes compared to coal plant hours/days There is a strong green movement in germany !

  • @davidwatson8118

    @davidwatson8118

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Leicht_Sinn Where do you get your natural gas? How do you feel about that? Nukes hve and are pricing themselves out of the market.

  • @StormyDog
    @StormyDog3 жыл бұрын

    This sounds much like Tesla Autobidder, already in use in some groundbreaking markets.

  • @buddy1155

    @buddy1155

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Tesla system is just pure evil, people buy a power wall and Tesla make money from it without their consent, it is for the owners impossible to do anything about it without disconnecting the power wall from the grid (basically crippling the capabilities)

  • @sudeeptaghosh

    @sudeeptaghosh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@buddy1155 could you please provide your source for above mentioned comment?

  • @buddy1155

    @buddy1155

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sudeeptaghosh What comment? that they are evil... (my personal assessment). That they are making money off it? (that is common knowledge, well the first poster knew about this.). That you do not give consent. (that is one of those nasty things to proof things people do not do, just you proof to me that they do ask consent). That you can't do anything about it ( I seen a review ... might be able to find it, thing is really a blackbox there is ZERO control over it) Or that the power wall will be crippled (that I can explain, and was in that review as well)

  • @sudeeptaghosh

    @sudeeptaghosh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@buddy1155 what a horseshit...

  • @warrenwood1540
    @warrenwood15403 жыл бұрын

    Good talk, great info, well done.

  • @victorsmit4322
    @victorsmit43223 жыл бұрын

    Great presentation, thank you!

  • @phaecops
    @phaecops3 жыл бұрын

    Notice that the speaker never discusses costs. This is the hallmark of green vs. carbon energy debates since the costs of most of the ambitious green proposals makes their implementation economically absurd. Take for instance, the recent customer power outage in California. This was due directly to the decommissioning recently of peaker gas power plants that served 6 million customers. When A/C demand during the heat wave became too great a power draw for the grid there were no batteries or neighboring states with power to spare and 300,000 customers had to be blacked out for an hour. The estimated cost to buy the 12 Gwatts of batteries to remedy this problem is $91 billion for four hours of back-up. Then, to keep the batteries charged another 12 Gwatts of supplementary solar and wind will have to be built to be sure the batteries are charged and ready when the main solar and wind portfolios are too busy to charge, at a cost of another $20 billion. So essentially you need twice as much solar and wind in California to keep and maintain a battery backup of four hours standby. $91 + $20 billion = $111 billion which amortized over a payback period of 10 years is $100/10 = $10 billion per year which must be added to the $41.6 billion that Californians already pay for electricity per year. This mind you is only for four hours backup. Eight hours or 24 hours or God forbid a whole week makes it all infeasible.

  • @fjalics

    @fjalics

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are making ridiculous assumptions to "prove" your point. Nobody is going to have a bunch of equipment like that sitting around to use it once per year. Your whole perspective is wrong. We had a problem so it's impossible. Nonsense. As the percentage of renewables increases, of course we have to adjust. You should look at his video on liquid air batteries. Sounds like a great solution for a one off situation. I think the most efficient way to do it is to expose everyone to the actual real time price of electricity(time of use pricing), using meters that can measure not only how much you use, but when. One obvious thing, is not charge EVs during those peak hours, but do charge them when electricity is plentiful. Google Ice Bear. It is an air conditioner that stores cold, in the form of ice. I have 2 Carrier 42 SEER mini splits. My whole house AC is 13 SEER. The minute you give people a financial reason to help with these peak hours, they will. Sure there may be a coule of bumps in the road, just like there were with fossil fuels. We'll figure it out.

  • @dougmc666
    @dougmc6663 жыл бұрын

    Amazing presentation that managed to skip Norway, pumped hydro and natural gas balancing out renewables.

  • @markanthony3275

    @markanthony3275

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now there is a split in the ranks of the eco-Nazis...they no longer approve of Hydro electric projects because of the massive disruption of "habitat"...meanwhile they approve of off shore wind turbines which have been found to emit frequencies of sound that greatly disrupts marine mammals that use sonar...a.k.a. whales. So I guess it's now become "Kill the whales...save the planet ".

  • @mike-barber

    @mike-barber

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's true! Pumped hyrdo - it's the original grid-scale storage solution, and surprisingly efficient! Not suitable in many places, though -- you need quite a large reservoir and a fairly substantial elevation difference. I'm not sure if we've had a video covering all of the alternatives yet; would be pretty interesting for everyone. I definitely agree that even non-renewable sources like gas plants have a role to play.

  • @dougmc666

    @dougmc666

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mike-barber - Gas plants are our dirty little secret, they are way in the lead for backing up wind. It would be great to see storage displace gas someday but does any country have a plan to do that in the next 20 years?

  • @mike-barber

    @mike-barber

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dougmc666 true! Gas seems like a good backup for renewables in the interim - provided overall emissions are lower. I suspect they will be because you can deploy more if you have a good backup. In the long term, I'm guessing smarter grids, better connectivity across diverse geographies, and more economical storage will just make gas less attractive to run.

  • @incognitotorpedo42

    @incognitotorpedo42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dougmc666 Hell yes they do, and it isn't going to take 20 years: www.energy-storage.news/news/bloombergnef-lcoe-of-battery-storage-has-fallen-faster-than-solar-or-wind-i

  • @steveread4021
    @steveread40213 жыл бұрын

    It's a no brainer. Cheers from another Steve Read. Great documentaries.

  • @davidkreimer2970
    @davidkreimer29703 жыл бұрын

    Ever Sunday, I look forward to watching your blog, and I have a thought that is rattling around in my brain, and want to present it to you, even though it is a tangent topic to today's show. It is geothermal, to be used for commercial and residential heating and cooling, powered by green energy, using heat pumps. Ground based systems have a sweet spot that is driven by latitude. This Goldilocks latitude is not at the Equator (ground too hot), nor the Arctic (ground too cold), but between these, where it's just right. And there, in this good zone, the expensive part is to get this desired temperature content. Drilling can almost always be done here, almost like drilling for oil, except you're guaranteed to hit your prize... local appropriate temperature circulated water. If there were millions of holes drilled and tens of thousands of drilling rigs, especially if these rig operations were funded by the state, then costs would plummet. In addition, the inside the building conditioning systems costs would be slashed as well, as you need only the heat pump. You don't need a furnace. And costs in the heat mode and the cooling mode are slashed by roughly seventy to eighty percent. Your mileage may vary. This is a winwinwin. And the carbon exhaust cost saving are similarly accumulated. Another win. In cities, the system could be provided by the municipalities, as a utility. City living costs would plummet, and it's environment would be in it's own sweet spot. In effect, you are using the Earth as a battery, swapping summer heat and winter cooling. Swapping it for six months later.

  • @grindupBaker

    @grindupBaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    "I have a thought that is rattling around in my brain". Clear off out of it. We don't want your type polluting the comments of GoogleTubes climate videos. People with their brains being ruined by having thoughts in them. Disgusting !

  • @davidbradley3074
    @davidbradley30743 жыл бұрын

    Generate Hydrogen gas with the extra power and store the gas. H2 has the largest "Delta H", thus perfect storge mechanism!

  • @jiriwichern

    @jiriwichern

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, the conversion efficiency for H2 compared to Li-Ion battery storage and many other currently interesting forms of energy storage is not that great. The current conversion efficiencies are 65-70% for electricity to H2 and 50-60% for H2 to electricity. Charging and discharging Li-Ion for ordinary batteries are both in the 90% range. You lose more than half of your energy from the get go if you use H2. It's only when you want to store the energy for a very long time (years or longer), in a small container or may want to transport it over long distances (between continents and thus preventing significant transportation loss through HV lines) that H2 may make sense. The small container size may have been an advantage for vehicles a couple of decades ago when Li-Ion batteries weren't yet as well developed as they are now... but with the current progress and the next stage of EV car (>500 mile range and cheap compact cars) on the horizon, I don't think H2 makes sense anymore.

  • @nescius2

    @nescius2

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was gonna make fun of your statement (especially about the leaking storage mechanism, which is the second worse thing about H2 as fuel - the first being its tendencies to explode violently) but started searching and there is a significant progress - Toyota's hydrogen-powered electric cars are here and EU already has 111 working H2 gas stations (..of that, 0 in place where i live and closest only 150km away). H2 fuel has also some advantages over batteries - to me, the biggest one is the filling up of the fuel takes few seconds, where batteries still take few hours.

  • @davidbradley3074

    @davidbradley3074

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nescius2 I am a mechanical engineer with tooo many years of design experience. I know what I am talking about better than the other 99% of the earths population.

  • @SurrealKeenan
    @SurrealKeenan3 жыл бұрын

    nice to have some good news every once in a while

  • @lucgauthier3201
    @lucgauthier32013 жыл бұрын

    Very very good vidéo, i appreciate very much. Good continuation!

  • @PacoOtis
    @PacoOtis3 жыл бұрын

    Good show old boy! Thanks! We definitely owe you a beer!

  • @evanleebodies
    @evanleebodies3 жыл бұрын

    Decentralisation has to be the way to go, coupled with energy efficiency

  • @PrivateSi

    @PrivateSi

    3 жыл бұрын

    I knew a Young Man, that swallowed a fly, I don't know why he swallowed a fly, perhaps he'll DIE!... He swallowed the fly to catch the spider that wriggled and wriggled and wiggled in CIDER... He swallowed a bird trying to catch the fly, with his MONSTROUS OPPRESSIVE WIND TURBINES.... -- If you think your uber-techno, more, More, MORE, new, NEW, NEO JUNK economy is ever going to be more green, globally, or locally for that matter, you are a brainwashed tool of uber-liberal capitalist and uber-liberal socialist money junkies on crack'n'roids... A bunch of techno-Nazti HITLERS... -- You Me-Too-Poly-Ton La La Lander techno-waster FAKE GREENZ deserve nothing less than mass extinction.. Screw your global Lithium (+Neodymium/cobalt) economy, crap'n'trade bo££ock$.... You are the scum of the Earth, you and your LIBERAL GLOBAL ECONOMY.... -- No new anything in the UK. Let the economy die and kick out 10 million people and start again for a start.. Make do and mend and only buy second hand stuff from now on, except food, then I will forgive you and deem you worthy of life All urban areas should have minimum 50% food independence via vertical farms. Should be 75%. Grain crops should be banned. Grass fed organic livestock have more space.

  • @evanleebodies

    @evanleebodies

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PrivateSi Good luck with getting the internet on your MS-DOS computer caveman

  • @PrivateSi

    @PrivateSi

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@evanleebodies .. Not going to happen with liberal progressive nutterz in charge.. We have to use basic technology at least to fight their brainwashed minds on the internet... When I take off my straw hat I promote small to medium sized modular (offshore, floating) Thorium Salt Reactors and Waste To Energy + Refined Matter plants and Natural Gas Power Stations - certainly no enriched uranium nuke reactors, dirty coal or crap renewable power. And e-vehicles for all is as green as a lump of black hole. -- I had my own second hand computer business at one point that mainly dismantled stuff for parts to mend broken PCs. I started to specialise in tiny little 'Thin Client' single board computers for tech. hobbiests, before the ** NEO ** MEGA-CORP Raspberry Pi and clones ruined that market.... I've officially recycled more e-waste than you've had hot dinners. I don't buy new tech. Simple as. I don't need it. -- Your response is so stereotypically libtarded - a lame insult with not one serious point addressed.. La La Lander Sheeple-parrots are programmed to be this way. KolibriOS is my favourite minimalist OS. If it had proper graphics drivers it would be perfick.

  • @evanleebodies

    @evanleebodies

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PrivateSi Contrary to what you believe, I am with you 100%. Waste and in built obsolescence is the scourge that we have to resist. My "insult" was a natural reaction to your incoherent rant.

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