"And I don't know if it's extra good, but I like it". Dutch directness right there!.

@Alt-player-161

3 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing haha. I lived close to the dutch border most of my life and this is how they are. Always loved that.

@eloytoro

Ай бұрын

that's not very direct though

@NazriB

9 күн бұрын

Lies again? Milky Way USD SGD

I am Dutch and I find this video really good and accurate! A great example of good journalism, well explained from different perspectives and with beautiful shots and graphics. Thank you Business Insider! ❤

@SmoochyTea

3 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s really good, summarizes the situation quite well

@TheMennoXD

3 ай бұрын

There's some suggestive wording here and there, and lacking key information, but it covers the general idea.

@jeroenengelen1277

3 ай бұрын

Fully agree; Excellent video with clear explanation of the issues/situation

@marschalover01

3 ай бұрын

This video explains better why we need to cut, than our own media or goverment.. Though I still believe we need to find a different way to cut out nitrogen than cutting our life stock in half.

@Rom2Serge

3 ай бұрын

I disagree chemistry here is bogusly wrong. They said ammonia (NH3) is acidifing the soil. Ammonia is alkaline it is lowering acidity in the soil, that is actually good for the soil. Tho to become a journalist you don't have to be a chemist. But its the basic inorganic school stuff. Approximately 20 people were working on this video , how the hell no one seen such obvious errors. Feel bad for chemists who are watching this video .

Call me crazy but here in Zimbabwe, manure is a prized commodity used as natural fertiliser. I have a small farm with a few cattle & i really can't get enough manure!...much love & respect to my Dutch farming brothers & sisters..from zimbabwe❤️❤️❤️🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼

@RedSampler

3 ай бұрын

we love you too😊

@David34981

3 ай бұрын

Yes, there is really WAY too much manure in The Netherlands, Belgium, ... Way too much to use as a fertiliser. It's a real problem.

@VenusBijou

3 ай бұрын

@@David34981 Why not export it as manure? If it was well rotted would it cause less problems?

@renskersbergen7560

3 ай бұрын

@@VenusBijou We already do. Look up manure export netherlands and you will be surprised about the numbers.

@shazade258

3 ай бұрын

@@VenusBijouI think the problem is that the manure has to off gas ammonia before it becomes usable for farming, but the ammonia is the actual problem.

My goodness.. isn’t this video a sight for sore eyes! Haven’t see such unbiased holistic journalism anywhere in decades! Thank you!!

@michellelaroche2189

2 ай бұрын

They always offer a well rounded view 👍

@AdamBechtol

2 ай бұрын

:)

I wonder how many times I've tasted this guy's arms

@SimplyTippy

3 ай бұрын

I was looking for this comment. 😂😂😂

@geaca3222

3 ай бұрын

😂

@beautymaven3952

3 ай бұрын

😂

@tretower57

Ай бұрын

Me too. I was thinking about arm hair :(

@Hyurachan

Ай бұрын

In truth their very clean. But artisans like this need to be able to feel in order to be accurate with their culinary skills. gloves take that away.

this is a nutrition problem not a nitrogen problem, dairy animals have traditionally been very effecient at removing nitrogen from fodder , but when you start to increase thethe amount of crude protien in the diets of the animal while not accounting for digesterbility you will have these problems. Cows are ment to eat grass, not soya beans, i work on a cattle farm where we only feed grass to our dairy animal snd their feaces is nearly odarless, it has so little nitrogen, then there are things like sea weed that you can add to the feed that helps to increase the effciency of the animal while reduing the methane and nitrogen emmissions. There are technologies that exsist that can concentrate and stablize the uria so it can be used to fertilize crops, its not an all or nothng cituation, this is clearly politics, not science. its funny though, we blame everything except the auto and energy industries for pollution, people would rather drive 1/4 mile than walk, or ride a bicylce. The earth population will contnue to grom unit it reaches about 14 billion, there are better ways to provide energy for transportation , etc, but farming is irreplaceable, (dont tell me almond juice is milk, its not).

@SlagroomenCornflakes

3 ай бұрын

People also forget that the Netherlands has a relatively high population per hectare and also produces a lot of product for other countries. So it makes sense that the country has a higher amount of nitrogen the air than many other countries. The points you make are true. I am with you on that. There can be done much to fix the issues.

@donetoldyaso.99

3 ай бұрын

Cool insight!

@clementcollier8432

3 ай бұрын

yes, most of the "ecological activists" are oblivious to this kind of thing. The problem is that they lack the proper reasoning skill to understand things like that but yet have no issues making a problem out of everything they clearly do not understand. Because there is always a solution. It's pretty clear that there are too many people on earth to live have the western quality of life standard, but that is not really accepted and it means you have to limit/control procreation/population growth if this is a goal. That or everyone accepts to become poorer but the fools who think that is a "solution", live on a weird planet where human behavior is very different somehow...

@julieDJTFP

3 ай бұрын

It's they same with a lot of things. They want to fix the symptoms and not the actual problem.

@dhuryodhankaurav8487

3 ай бұрын

@@clementcollier8432 We can't find fault with people wanting to improve their standard of living... as education and living standards increase, the populations have started to decline... it is being noticed worldwide... we should find ways to mitigate and redo older practices without victimizing any section of the society. We are smart enough to do that and yet foolishly don't do that.

I am 4 mins in and I am on the side of the farmer making the cheese the old fashion way.

@cyberleone00

3 ай бұрын

You should be our government should be funding the nitrogen decreasers not farmers. they make our food

@amh9494

3 ай бұрын

​@@cyberleone00 gov should f off with their WEF planned famines.

@thegamer5367

3 ай бұрын

​​@@cyberleone00food that is instantly exported you mean, most of the food made there is exported the same day.

@Simon-dm8zv

3 ай бұрын

Dairy doesn’t belong in this age.

@cyberleone00

3 ай бұрын

@@thegamer5367 yes I'm glad you've figured out how globalisation functions but if these farms were to go we'd be paying even more than what we already are

Just saw the cow painting by van gogh in an exhibit a week ago and fun fact, it wasn't painted for the Netherlands or from life with cows in the Netherlands. It was done in France during his last few months of life when he moved to Auver and based it off an etching from his physician/friend Gachet lol.

@rocksparadox

2 ай бұрын

It's ''based ON'' and don't ''lol'' at your OWN COMMENTS because that shows you're really sad and lonely, okay?

very weird that nobody acknowledges the grain diet for cows is the main determining factor for the emissions. Cows are ruminants! theyre supposed to be eating bugs and grass !

@wonderlandparty6054

3 ай бұрын

Don't notice that. Thats anti-Semitic .

@s._3560

3 ай бұрын

Not when you want them to produce milk continuously! If they only eat grass and bugs they wouldn't have a good quality creamy nutritious milk. It would be more watery and less fat and in less quantity.

@wonderlandparty6054

3 ай бұрын

@@s._3560 do you own cows

@coenogo

3 ай бұрын

@@wonderlandparty6054 How?

@Greg-ww4zm

3 ай бұрын

Very weird that people buy into the climate farce.

There are farms in the US that use manure digesters to rapidly reduce emissions and process quantities of residue at scale.

@iihoipoiii

3 ай бұрын

manure digesters digest the organic content into methane the nitrogen doesnt get reduced in a digester (some of it gets turned into the residue but the nitrogen itself is still there)

@JaccoSW

3 ай бұрын

Yes but even those devices have their limits. The Netherlands has almost 300 pigs per square kilometer, or about 777 per square mile. And that is the total number of pigs divided by the entire country's area. Meaning there are tons of places (about 3400 farms) that have much higher concentrations than that. That's the highest concentration in the world. And that's only pigs. The US in comparison has 8 pigs per km² or 20 per sq. mi. The dose make the poison. There are simply too many animals being held as livestock in too small of an area. And 90% of the products produced from it is being exported.

@Seniorsneaky123

2 ай бұрын

Funny how they didn't want to bring up the environment in the episode in India where people were burning rubber tires and cow dung to cook salt. But here they are freaking out over how much a cow poops in the Netherlands.

@trishapellis

Ай бұрын

@@Seniorsneaky123So maybe this video is centered on the conflict between farmers and nature preservationists, and the video about India is... I don't know... not? Like I have no clue which video about India you're talking about, but if it's not about a conflict between people burning tires and the government wanting them to stop... then that's just not the point of the video. That's not about Business Insider being picky about what they report on. If the video is about poverty or something, then what's relevant to the video is not whether or not the government is trying to make people stop burning tires - it's whether or not the government is doing something to make people less poor.

@Seniorsneaky123

Ай бұрын

@@trishapellis Nah, they go on about global warming crap in every video uneccesarily. They only didn't for the episode in India because they didn't want to be accused of being "racist".

Anyone else think the curd bath looks comfy? Nice and warm.

@liquidbeans4209

Ай бұрын

No, actually

Lmao....”all this milk comes from his 200 female cows”......you had me rolling on that one....😂

@nileppezdel1000

3 ай бұрын

you have to gender them correctly.. :D

@nicholaswjamrock

3 ай бұрын

??? whats wrong with the figure, those are holsteins , Jamaica Hopes Can produce about 60 percesnt of that with 3 time the fat content, while being half the size and require half the feed.

@chrisjackson1215

3 ай бұрын

@@nicholaswjamrock female cows just called cows, male cows are called bulls. They're pointing out that calling them female cows is redundant.

@ritzharrison2751

3 ай бұрын

@@chrisjackson1215 Yeah I don't think I would want to try bull milk...

@nicholaswjamrock

3 ай бұрын

@@chrisjackson1215 i know i was hanging out with 130 of them this morning. Cows are female cattle that has giveen birth. Its not redundent if you know the jargon

Nothing beats old school farming

@gabrieldsouza6541

Ай бұрын

Aside from modern farming

I am dutch. I sent this video to our family's groupchat with the following message: 'This video is a gem if you want good information about our agriculture and its dilemmas. The different aspects are beautifully explained, and finally, there is a very clear explanation of what causes the nitrogen problem. The latter has always been unclear to me.' Bravo Business Insider!

@felisenpai9625

19 күн бұрын

Something that I found lacking in a video is focus on the impact of trees. You need them to survive, especially with how flood prone your is country. They compact the ground and prevent mud floods which I am sure you know how disastrous they can be. It could be an idea worth looking into, but apart from trying to decrease ammonia, Dutch government could try soil enriching programs in forests, in order to supercharege the ground with minerals.

Very well done video, guys. It's holistic and current and asks very good questions. Great job, keep it up!

Strange that nothing is being said about the 11 million pigs that are being raised for meat each year in the Netherlands; they create a great deal of nitrogen out, more than the 4 million cows it appears.

@Ace-cc1em

3 ай бұрын

They likely fall under agriculture

@emorelix

3 ай бұрын

the cows arent killed until they stop making milk, so they produce more waste more likely.

@gatomaru

3 ай бұрын

they even deleted my comment saying that the farmers poured asbestos in the streets. this channel has a very clear agenda man

@sannevorrink

3 ай бұрын

Omdat dit over kaas en koeien gaat en niet over vlees en varkens

@vile6012

3 ай бұрын

You are watching a video about dairy farmers.

Fascinating and so so interesting! Significant issues that nobody seems to be able to address and recurrent from the way we all live. Subsistence agriculture never had any problems but with millions and millions living in cities producing Ones and Zeros someone has to produce the food they (we) all eat as well as all other goods. Agriculture and Manufacturing are critical and we can't keep losing even more of it to be neutral (carbon, nitrogen...) on everything whilst 3/4 of the world laugh away... Preserving (in some cases rescuing it) the environment is critical but must be done in balance, in view of what others are (not) doing doing and must not cause any further (material, social, financial, family...) harm to our societies. Thank you.

Went to watch on how Gouda was made, 4 minutes of vid was about Gouda, the next 16 minutes was about Govt./Politics.

@nulnoh219

3 ай бұрын

It's Business insider. It's about the Business side of the Gouda production.

@mslim8412

3 ай бұрын

But business and politics can be separated. Granted, I found the politics very interesting.

@geaca3222

3 ай бұрын

Me too

@user-ij1nv8be3i

Ай бұрын

Gouda is what you find in all supermarkets abroad. I've never seen Friese nagelkaas in another country. He makes special luxury cheese though. Without accelerators to speed up the ripening process.

Eye opening video. Excellent reporting

Dont forget that this tiny country is one of the largest food exporters in the world. So the emissions is relative to that

@antoinevandamme6506

2 ай бұрын

Food exporter does not mean we produce that our selves. The Netherlands is a country built on trade. We import and export.

@Njirimara

Ай бұрын

But is also important to remember that the ecosystems most directly affected are gonna be the netherland's not the world's

@jemoedermeteensnor88

25 күн бұрын

@@Njirimara Not necessarly true, as "the lowest" country in the world the rising sea levels have only hurt other countries so far. There is also a massive increase in forest compared to 200 years ago while the population increased by 400-500%. Just because it would be logic doesnt always mean it's true.

@Njirimara

2 күн бұрын

@@jemoedermeteensnor88 that is very true, one would think i would know this by living in an island myself lol, thank you for saying this!

What makes the nature vs farmland discussion even more complicated is that for a very large part of the Netherlands, farmland (flat, grass, straight canals with trees) IS their local nature and has been for 500 years!

@clownworld3913

3 ай бұрын

The goal is creating artificial shortages on all primary commodities, muh nitrogen is just kabuki theater.

@thegamer5367

3 ай бұрын

Yes, and its ruining what natural forrests we have remaining, with the nitrogen compounds leeching off the farmland and into the water, poisioning the water and ground. Meanwhile, when the government is ordered by the courts to stop dragging their feet on legislation and actually start enforcing nitrogen limits, the farmers throw a temper tantrum that they cant ruin the soil, water and air around their farms with nitrogen compounds anymore.

@BlueDragon1504

3 ай бұрын

Farmlands isn't nature. It's monoculture sprayed with tons of herbicides and presticides. It's completely awful for most wildlife.

Man, I'd love to get a drink with this guy.

Grass, soil, and cheese. What a wonderful combinationn

One of the best cheeses for burger 🍔 😊 Greetings from Miami 🇺🇸

I hope that a solution can be found that helps keep the farmers farming and the forests from dying.

@sandyadkins2637

2 ай бұрын

It must be good team work and prayers what is best !❤ and animals not be harmed I have many thoughts on this I mean they need to eat healthy not something bad for them that only lets them make milk and food 😔

Real farming and agriculture is a beautiful thing That we as people all need to go back to you

This was incredibly fascinating. Thank you

They miss a very important part of this discussion. Its not just innovate further with technology or selling your business. There are also enough ways to innovate to a more climate and eco-friendly farm ( regenarative farming), which will perhaps decrease the output of milk, but also will decrease the cost of nutritions, medicines, and perhaps fertilizers. On the other hand it will add more value to the landscape and offers new income streams.. I dont say that all diary farms should be changed to this, or all farms should be closed, however it is a part of the complex puzzle in the Netherlands.. Now it seems like a very easy puzzle to solve, technology innovation or selling your business...

@BorghBorgh

3 ай бұрын

We tried that. But by now the gains are marginal and emissions are still massive.

@Joseph-Colin-EXP

3 ай бұрын

Says the guy with a design in head, and has done none of the labor to work a farm.

@kjudad1185

3 ай бұрын

Another "innovation" that farmers have to abide to. Another massive loan. Another step deeper into debt. And in a few years time: "dang, didn't work out. But here is another great idea farmers must invest into". That is the problem. For some people in the cities it is easy to say that farmers just need to invest. But they fail to realise that it takes generations to pay back the loans. A new regulation, a new law, a new requirement every few years....

@JaccoSW

3 ай бұрын

@@kjudad1185 That's true. And it is in fact incredibly unfair of the government that they keep making new rules and then dropping them a few years down the line. But that is also partially the fault of the farmers and their representatives. We knew this was going to be a problem in the 50's, 70's, 90's and early 2000's. But instead of doing something structutal the farmers lobbied this away and tried solving it by better and better technology. But this isn't a problem we can tech our way out of. I've done the calculations elsewhere but where the US has an average of 38 chickens, 8 pigs and 9 cows per square kilometer, the Netherlands has 2389 chickens, 270 pigs and 95 cows per square kilometer. By any sane comparison we got so efficient at holding livestock compared to any other country in the world that we got to insane numbers of animals. Dilution is the solution to pollution... but there is no way we can build even more efficient ways of cleaning and scrubbing the water, air and soil that can withstand that high of a concentration of waste. Even by cutting the number of livestock in half we are still a powerhouse in Europe. And 90% of the products from these animals is being exported to other countries. The waste stays here and the rest of the world enjoys affordable products. If we spread it out more it will be less of a problem. And yes, that will mean moving production to other countries. Not because it is cheaper but because we are literally poisoning the air, water and soil the way we are doing things now.

I would say that dairy farming is not the big issue. What is the issue is intensively farmed chickens and pig. Dairy farming has gone on here in the Netherlands for centuries, intensive chicken and pig farming hasn't.

@Simon-dm8zv

3 ай бұрын

Dairy farming on the scale it exists today also didn’t exist a century ago. Cattle is also a lot more damaging than pigs and chickens.

I still remember my first and best taste of Gouda in Amsterdam...or one of the dams. I was a child. Gouda, smoked eel, Edam! It was cold but so interesting. I met a young man named Susan.

Absolutely fascinating

They need to take out the grains particularly soy, from rhe cows feed. Adding in 10% seaweed to their feed also cuts down on emissions from cows.

@Simon-dm8zv

3 ай бұрын

Or just decrease cattle massively.

@nicholaswjamrock

3 ай бұрын

@@Simon-dm8zv then what do you use to make the cheese, and butter, and what would i have with my cornflackes, what would make my icecream????

@Simon-dm8zv

3 ай бұрын

@@nicholaswjamrock All these products are available in plant based alternatives.

@nicholaswjamrock

3 ай бұрын

@@Simon-dm8zv NO, just no, i like flavour, i like texture, i like when what i eat taste good. I like the fact that where live, my icecream is not made by fluffing up watered down milk or highly processed plant juice but is made from cream extracted from milk that comes from a cow. being that i am one of the members of the team that formulate the feed for those cows, and other animals at the research farm i work. I can tell you humans are NOT herbivores and we need animal product to grow and develop properly. I have tried the so called alternatives, they taste nothink like the original. If you want to consume soy or almond juice and call it milk, thats all fine for you, but you should look into hoe those product are made and smell where those product are made, and there environmental impact, then come and talk to me. by the way, from a nutritional point of view, the dairy industry has been working on milk substitues for over a 100 years, and for that time they have not made one that can completely replace milk in animals. Not even the best infant formulas cant come close to actual milk and there is far more money being spent on baby formula research than what is spent on that than on the plant juice being called milk

@Simon-dm8zv

3 ай бұрын

@@nicholaswjamrock Whether you like the plant based products or not, that is not really relevant. You can get used to anything if you want to. The point is that production of dairy products is simply too inefficient and polluting. Making plant based alternatives is pretty much always less polluting. Not a single adult human needs milk to survive.

Not only the cows for the dairy industry are causing the nitrogen problem.The large scale of meat (pigs and poultry) and egg production is also contributing to this problem in my home country.

@levijohnson7544

3 ай бұрын

womp womp

Truely, blessed are the cheesemakers

Pleasure to meet you fellas.

6:27 -- I like how the narrator said "female cows". All cows are female.

@alys.7491

3 ай бұрын

"Cow" is sometimes used as an umbrella term for the breed, male or female. Specifying female might seem redundant but for some it's necessary.

@alexill

3 ай бұрын

Don’t assume their gender

@Gusr404

3 ай бұрын

What if the cow identify as an bull

@mickeydew1896

3 ай бұрын

No none binaries? Or transgoats?

Can anyone answer this: Pine and oak trees actually require an acidified soil (Ph4-7), so the nitrogen should be helping not hindering their growth. Are Dutch trees different?

@xdizzy12

3 ай бұрын

Those trees cannot grow if the entire area is overgrown with grass, stinging nettle and wild blackberry. Those are the three strongest growers here because of the nitrogen. Also, a large portion of The Netherlands was originally less fertile ice-age moraines (stuwwallen). Those are getting completely overgrown now with those hostile fast-growers. Another thing that is happening is that because of the decrease in biodiversity, certain plagues like beetles can spread quickly without opposition and destroy entire forests. This then decreases the quality of the soil even further, accelerating the downwards spiral and the general denial by the Dutch that this will be catastrophic. You know what one of the most important parts of our waterworks is? Plants holding the dikes together and forests and wetlands retaining water. We are destroying all of that. But remember this Dutch farmers' wisdom: Facts are a leftist hobby.

@nunosilva187

3 ай бұрын

@@xdizzy12 If we want oxygen produced from plants then grasses are many times more efficient than trees

@JaccoSW

3 ай бұрын

In many of those sensitive areas the Ph value is between 3 and 4.5. So that is way too acidic even for those plants. They are getting nitrogen burn and are unable to get their nutrients from the soil anymore. This is especially damaging for saplings and younger plants that need those to grow. The reason why you see dying older trees is partially because they are weakened. But also because their replacements have not been able to grow as numerously for the past few decades. Meaning in a couple of decades more these will be barren lands. Because the nitrogen from the livestock and transportation literally killed the plants and animals with their waste.

@belgiantrippel

15 күн бұрын

How does ammonia a base, acidity the soil? NH3 has a pH of 11-13. Definitely not an acid.

Why can't the government issue farmers with those vacuums? Sounds much better than closing down farms.

I visited the Netherlands over a decade ago and they had the BEST food I have EVER tasted! I believe their farmers should be prized for what they produce....not punished. Many people believe it's the diet of the cows that is causing this problem. They need to feed on strictly grasses....not soya.

Just a note, PVV is by no means new. They've been around for 18 years. Wilders is the longest sitting member of parlement.

@sushmag4297

3 ай бұрын

Pvv guy looks like Trump mixed with Homelander.

@jemoedermeteensnor88

25 күн бұрын

@@sushmag4297 They kinda have a lot in common, but Trump is like a screaming child in a political debate, while Wilders is quite smart and professional , which sets him apart from other unorthodox political figures.

Ask yourself why and how they have enough money to buy out the farmers land, but that same money cannot be used to help the farmers invest in equipment or feed to reduce emissions? The way the world is headed in the next 20 years our main food sources will come from a hand full of individuals.

@silentferret1049

3 ай бұрын

Because the government would have land that they can resell where as helping the farmers would take even more money and that would be more than likely compounded every year instead of being fixed in one.

@user-ij1nv8be3i

Ай бұрын

I see many grassfields turned into solar panel fields. Avoiding to be depended on Putin for oil and gaz.

What I never understand about this channel is why there is no contact information for the people or manufacturers. I would really like to get this man's product, but there is no way I can.

@DeedlyDood

3 ай бұрын

I"m glad there isn't. Advertising brings money into the picture, and that muddies the waters on what is ethical when it comes to journalism.

@heijd

3 ай бұрын

1:53, bottom of the name plate

@user-ij1nv8be3i

Ай бұрын

Limited Edition !

Thank you, this is the type of videos I’m subscribed for.

Same issue in California, regulations on methane producing dairy cows. What a mess!!

@boohere2

3 ай бұрын

You can see it in that picture of Los Angeles

Gouda is my favourite! Love the Dutch!

One thing about the buy-out. The newer the walls (yes the actual walls) of a farm is the more money the farmer will get for a buy-out. So a farm with walls of 10 year old with 100 year old equipment in it will fetch more money then a farm with 100 year old walls and just 1 year old equipment in it. If the farmer agrees to it, they are not allowed to start a new farm somewhere else in The Netherlands. A lot of farmers that are taking the buy-out are therefor leaving the country to start somewhere else, basically shifting the problem from one country to a different country. Since The Netherlands has some of the most strict rules world wide when it comes down to farming in general, one could ask if this is a smart idea to let the farmers buy them out and let them leave and not let them continue in The Netherlands. The demand for these products will still be there after a Dutch farmer has stopped and producers in countries with less rules will most likely take over the piece of the pie that now is up for grabs and with fewer rules these farmers can hurt the environment and animal welfare even more than it does in The Netherlands.

Thank you for this video - it is very well made and easy to watch. I would just like to add it would be nice to this video skip the politics (section of the video) blaming the farmers and their cow's for 'environmental problems' which I'm sure can be fixed some other creative way, that their government won't research and help them figure out. Nope, these brother-owner's are likely clobbered with regulations from their government.

Im a farmer in Norway, i dont do milk, but meat, but i know there a program going around for the dairy farmers to get feed that has an element to it that reduces the nitrogen in the cow, the dairy farmer that choose to go with this options get their milk picked up by special trucks and their milk is put in different packaging since its still being "tested" and isnt the same milk people are used too, i havent tried it myself but i just might.

@DeedlyDood

3 ай бұрын

If it is safe and taste the same, I'm all for it. However, people will be skeptical and rightfully so.

@deetgeluid

3 ай бұрын

What breed of cows doyou have?❤

@magnimus3D

3 ай бұрын

@@deetgeluid some gorgeous Hereford's

For those wondering *why* the Dutch government is trying to decrease the number of animals, here are some numbers. The Netherlands has about 100 million chickens, 11.3 million pigs and 4 million cows. Divided by 41.850km² for the total country's area that means there are *on average* 2389 chickens AND 270 pigs AND 95 cows per square kilometer. For comparison, France has 242 million chickens, 12.8 million pigs and 17.4 million cows in an area of 643.801km². 375 chickens, 20 pigs and 27 cows per square kilometer. The US has 374 million chickens, 74.4 million pigs and 89.3 million cows in an area of 9.834.000km². This leads to an average 38 chickens, 8 pigs and 9 cows per square kilometer. Or about 98, 21 and 23 per square mile. Even with the best possible scrubbing tools that will lead to issues of waste building up in the local area. Even if that waste would be beneficial is lower quantities. The dose makes the poison. And in this case it is literally killing the nature and the wildlife in the Netherlands. All so we can export 90% of the products produced from those animals to other countries. We could cut 75% of farmers and still have more than enough food to export almost twice of what we use.

@cm3854

3 ай бұрын

Every living animal produces nitrogen. Your logic is fundamentally flawed. Humans also produce nitrogen. Would you also cull humans? 78% of the atmosphere is Nitrogen. Stop swallowing everything you hear.

@apebass2215

2 ай бұрын

Now look at the pollution produced by China and India. European countries could disappear entirely and it will barely make a dent in global emissions.

@JaccoSW

2 ай бұрын

@@apebass2215 Which is irrelevant for the discussion about Dutch farmers and the nitrogen issues. It is rarely a problem because the concentrations are lower in those countries.

@jemoedermeteensnor88

25 күн бұрын

@@apebass2215 The polution per capita is much higher in Europe. Also the farmers are polluting a lot more per income than other industries like the ones working with heavy metals or toxic chemistry, which are ussually a big factor.

Hehe Zoeterwoude drive by it everyday on my commute to work

6:27 Someone needs to tell the narrator that all cows are females.

11:29 anybody notices the cow in the ditch

@pierrex3226

3 ай бұрын

It's kathinka. She identifies as a frog.

@supreme5308

3 ай бұрын

@@pierrex3226 do you know what pronouns katinka uses as she doesn't identify as a cow?

@MBCGRS

3 ай бұрын

Cows love to stand in water... Looks like she's just taking a phew... Probably udderly exhausted.

@abbynarishkin9025

3 ай бұрын

I'm the producer on this video and can report she loves jumping in the canal frequently. But Frank says she forgets she can't get out! So every time she does it, they have to get a tractor to pull her up. It felt like a very Dutch scene to see - a cow stuck in a canal.

@katastrophen_kathinka

3 ай бұрын

​@@pierrex3226i identify as a human woman but ok 😅😂

Well there is an algae , when this is added to the fodder it reduces the methane to 90% without any side effects , the cows produce the milk .

Thumbnail looks like the guy will jump in to that yellow mixture

I love this I live in Gouda. Proud Dutch guy 😊

You guys must love Gouda and the Dutch to come back again for the same video but different producer lol

Show a picture of LA, where you can barely see a tree in sight.. and blame the cows for that air quality? Crazy lmao

It's so easy in this debate to point at one group and blame them. However, the truth is that this is a very complex problem for which there are no easy solutions.

Gosh darn, you would think 1 million kilos would be "Gouda-nough" but they make 650...... I'm here all week guys!

What's so stupid about the per hectare nitrogen emissions chart is that it casually leaves out that we are the densest populated country in europe

@murmurrrr

3 ай бұрын

Lol, the NL isn't the densest populated country in Europe.

@tijsp.8162

3 ай бұрын

A high emission per hectare also means a high deposit per hectare. It's true that this is related to the population density, but it is irrelevant to the nature preserves

@MartijnMcFly

3 ай бұрын

@@murmurrrr You're correct, it is among the densely populated countries in the world, actually. The Netherlands is ranked 4th in the world with 530 people per square km.

@jemoedermeteensnor88

25 күн бұрын

@@murmurrrr Yes a few microstates are more densily populated, but there is reason they get often referred to as micro states and not countries

Great videos! Well edited well informed

Considering the fact the Netherlands is the size of a poststamp, and having a huge export of dairy products, yeah, go figure about the emissions.❤

@Therzino

3 ай бұрын

moet emission out ofevery country in Europe…

They should be exporting the manure as fertilizer or composting it to export. Way better than chemical fertilizers!

If they export 80% of their Dairy product and export a whopping $9 Billion worth of meat... and asking what happens in 10-15 years who's gonna produce our food? Bruh... You're overproducing!

To those complaining about him touching the curd, I am sorry to tell you that this is industry standard and you probably eat cheese that someone touched already.

@MejufferG

3 ай бұрын

Touching with a glove or clean hands is sonething else than having armhairs in it. It is gross. 😂

@darnit1944

3 ай бұрын

​@@MejufferGDo you find arm hairs on your cheese often?

@MejufferG

3 ай бұрын

@@darnit1944 Dont know the good cheese goes away for export what we eat as dutch people is different. Maybe because we miss armhair flavour. 😂😂😂

No one's gonna talk about how this video was a reupload?

@JordySchaap

3 ай бұрын

Part. There are updates in between some parts

@WormBurger

3 ай бұрын

Why? It's cool either way.

What I wonder is how much factory farming do they have in the Netherlands. Here in the United States most of our biggest polluters are factory farms

@jemoedermeteensnor88

25 күн бұрын

Same in the Netherlands, almost all farms are mass-industrialized. There is a reason the average farmers are the 10% richest of the country in a country that is already very very wealthy relativly.

Odins blessings upon farmers🎉❤

Any foreigner who hasn't tried aged Gouda. I'd advice you to do it! You'd understand why the Dutch are such supporters of the Farmers.. Not just the foodstuff and the political corruption of the last years. But the insane heritage and history of the Dutch farmers cheese. Not just in the Gouda region, but in Brabant and Gelderland as well.

@jemoedermeteensnor88

25 күн бұрын

Most people dont support the farmers in the Netherlands. These elite snobs might work atleast as hard as anyone else, only direct relatives feel petty for them. The percentage of vegetarians which are not economicly or religously motivated is relativly high. Most people would do this because they feel bad for the animals, but in the Netherlands it is mostly because they hate the mass meat production. If you ever wandered out of your social circle you would have know this.

Cool video, but I'd be curious to see what the effects of climate change are on the geography of the Netherlands in the meantime, I want to see how such a swampy geography can hold up to the risks of climate change.

OH THAT LOOKS SO DELICIOUS

Not climate policy, but environmental policy. Small, but important detail.

He should just climb in with a bottle of wine and a book. He puts the cheese in the cheese.

@xlortiz

3 ай бұрын

yea he's swimming in it

Nitrogen bad... I recently moved to an acreage and plan to start a larger garden. I will need to fertilize the land so it can handle a crop. Just a few miles down the road from me is a dairy farm. I am looking into getting a truck load or two of manure dumped into my yard. That will be tilled into the land so I can feed crops and ultimately my family.

@JaccoSW

3 ай бұрын

Too much of a good thing will still kill you. The insane scale at which Dutch farmers hold livestock means they produce so much manure that even the ammonia being off-gassed from that has turned much of the surrounding land too aciding for plant life. Let alone if you spread that manure on the land itself. Look up the amount of cows, pigs and chickens there are in the Netherlands and your own country and then divide by the total area of land. I am willing to bet all of those are at least 10 times higher than your own country, if not more. At some point that pile of manure turns toxic and kills the land.

The hair on his arms will definitely add an outstanding flavour to the cheese!

What if you build the stable underground? Nitrogen-capturing plants, microbacteria, and fungi can be grown on the top soil layer. Will that be effective and viable?

@shazade258

3 ай бұрын

That would be interesting! I was thinking about an increased export tax on all agricultural products to be paid by the out-of-country purchasers, and the proceeds would go towards off-setting the costs of nitrogen minimization. I know it would mean a decrease of buyers for the dairy farmers, but it would put the actual cost of the problems in the hands of the people who want the product instead of squarely on the farmera

@thegamer5367

3 ай бұрын

The problem is that dutch farms are so intensive, you woukd need *massive* ammounts of mushrooms to deal with the ammount of nitrogen.

@JaccoSW

3 ай бұрын

At the scale Dutch farmers hold livestock it absolutely would not be. It is not a problem they can tech their way out of. If you want to get a sense of the mind boggling scale, look up the number of cows, pigs and chickens of your own country and then the numbers being held in the Netherlands. Then divide by the total land area of each. On average the Dutch should have 2389 chickens, 270 pigs and 95 cows per square kilometer. But I never see chickens, never see pigs and rarely see cows. That means they are already incredibly concentrated in certain areas. Most of these animals never see the light of day because they are already being held inside of industrial sized sealed stables at the most efficient way possible. And then we are even ignoring if that is a humane way of holding animals for food. At what point is our demand for cheese and meat no longer worth it for the treatment of the animals that make it?

Isn’t it stupid to cut emissions in one tiny country by cutting livestock? If for example Germany imports more cheese from elsewhere the emissions only migrate right? I appreciate all the research though

@why-kg6kx

3 ай бұрын

It's called climate alarmism. The air is mostly nitrogen

@fietsenOveral4650

3 ай бұрын

As an NL resident, the issue with nitrogen emissions is primarily the local effects. Nitrogen-compound concentrations in soil and water are so high it kills plants and animals in surrounding areas, among other contamination issues. While the landscape photos look nice, farming in the Netheralnds is very intense, to the point where this country about the same size as Maryland is by some estimates the 2nd largest agricultural exporter in the world.

@Gandeloft

3 ай бұрын

It is all a party of the scehem of which the goal is to control the food supply.. Farms and cows are not bad for the enviornment..Climate change as they tell of it is a hoax. Do not use KZread, Google, Facebook, Instagram etc. as your prinary source of info. Only approved stuff may be available here. The content which gives you insight into hlw the climate change narrative is a hoax is not really welcome on KZread whatsoever.

@thegamer5367

3 ай бұрын

​@@why-kg6kxairborne nitrogen isnt the same as the nitrogen compounds the farms pollute with, what you are making is a false comparison that ignores a very big issue in the netherlands.

@tijsp.8162

3 ай бұрын

That would be the ideal solution, yes. The problem isn't necessarily the amount of nitrogen emissions produced: it's the concentration of the emissions that is the issue. So migrating (part of) the emissions would solve the problem

Dutch government: let's steal land of bankrupted farmers blaming them for nature's problems but please don't touch Tata Steel 😅

@JohnHausser

3 ай бұрын

You must be fun at parties

@nancyoffenhiser4916

3 ай бұрын

The Dutch Farmers need to take a lesson from France and Germany and dump manure all over their government buildings😂

@levtieart3409

3 ай бұрын

They can always use manure to make gas for stoves or fertiliser Eazy Recycling I saw a guy making enough gas for 2h of cooking from cow manure in hes house He added chicken bones and stuff too I believe cutting farmers will make it worse Cuz farmers are more bio than other stuff Also whos gonna make food if u ban food Im in a hospital rn The food waste from it goes to a chicken farm so its not wasted Its good for enviroment No waste and the farmer has cheaper feed for chicken People forgot what farming is Bouth plant and animal one I wanna be a chicken halal farmer but cannot rly cuz dont afford it etc but yea Id def be bio and pro emviroment Give the chicken waste and compost to plant farmers And ask for stuff to make compost with chickens Ask for eggschels back + egg cartons Again Attacking agroculture industry for enviromental reasons is dumb cuz farmers are the most in tune with nature especially small ones who dont abuse their animals They cloud improve the public transit and make cars electrical instead of gas maybe that would help more....

@kknn523

3 ай бұрын

@@JohnHausser when you make emotional remarks, you lost the debate, and everyone knows.

@kknn523

3 ай бұрын

The EU failed to realize that the Netherland farmers are global producers. They feed the world, so they are to be counted as a global entity, and not a regional one. Basically, Netherland does the farming of many other nations in their land. So, they should be only be regulated(nitrogen restriction) by how much they cows they have and size of facility.

Maybe you could put up Solar Panels on the farm. The cows wont bother them and it would provide extra shade for the cows!

Why is pasteurization split. Never looked into it much. But the process takes away most the nutritional value of the milk but will also gets rid of harmful bacteria. So I dont really get which one is better. Ive had raw milk plenty of times as a kid with my grandma, goats milk too. Never gotten sick from it...

@deetgeluid

3 ай бұрын

EU rules.

@JaccoSW

3 ай бұрын

It doesn't change the nutritional value at all. That is a myth. Pasteurization kills the germs in milk that can cause foodborne illness. Raw milk can carry harmful germs, such as Campylobacter, Cryptosporidium, E. coli, Listeria, Brucella, and Salmonella. Those are all either serious health risks or can even be deadly. Unless you think those bacteria add some nutritional value?

@Matthy63

3 ай бұрын

Because pasteurized cheese is easier to export, and most Dutch cheese is exported. Plus, most people have no tastebuds and if they're freaking out over stuff like Gouda guy's arm hair i hate to imagine what they'll make of raw milk cheese. It's the same thing in France, most good, local-ish cheese you'll get is raw milk, most French cheese you get in other countries comes from like 1 brand and is always pasteurized.

@Matthy63

3 ай бұрын

​@@deetgeluidnot really lol, a lot of the PDOs require the process to be raw milk.

I'm not sure if this is a video about cheese or a lecture on saving the planet?

@OfficialCANVAS

3 ай бұрын

It's a about saving cheese.. U was almost there

There is nothing wrong with having cows and farming, its just that the scale is out of proposition, due to globalization and the economy...

@karenneill9109

3 ай бұрын

Specialization, too. When farms were very small and diverse, the manure would be the fertilizer for the grass that the cows eat. Now, the grain farmer buys chemical fertilizer to grow his grain, sells it to the farmer, the farmer has an over abundant fertilizer problem. Definitively something that can be fixed.

@lightman5523

3 ай бұрын

@@karenneill9109 Agree!!

@JaccoSW

3 ай бұрын

@@karenneill9109And that could even work if the grain was being grown locally. But the cow farmer now plants his fields with special grass that doesn't allow for any other plants or animals to grow and live there because it makes the cows produce more milk. And they always add special protein-rich feedstock (~25%) to supplement their diet so they produce even more milk than they already do. A large part of that is soy beans and corn being grown on other continents. A "natural cow" produces 10-15 liters of milk a day as long as the calf needs it. A cow on a Dutch farm produces 40-60L a day the entire year round. Generally speaking they get way too much protein, most of which gets turned into excess ammonia > nitrous oxide > nitrogen, which is part of the larger problem we have here. And at the scale it happens, there is not really a tech solution that can solve this. Even by cutting the entire livestock in half we probably still produce too much waste nitrogen. Instead of doing more with less, Dutch farmers did more with even more. And there is a limit to exponential growth. Namely, the planet.

look as a dutchie seeing those CO2 percentages always itches me. our country is super tiny so DUHHH were gonna have a large per/sq./mile but if u make food for the entire world cant that be taken into suggestion when tackling CO2 problems like if we stop producing someone else is gonna do it so the outcome is the same. its not like we are the problem we just HAVE it. no more dutch cheese then ?take it or leave it

When I think of LA and it's pollution it's definitely all that spralling farmland that comes to mind. Nothing else. Definitely not highways that are effectively parking lots or jets flying to local airports... Definitely all that farmland.

if they close the farm in the Netherlands, a new farm will appear in China producing the Gouda. And later they complain why China is the biggest exporter of Gouda.

@Simon-dm8zv

3 ай бұрын

And eventually China will start closing farms too, resulting in a better world.

@nicholaswjamrock

3 ай бұрын

yep

@nicholaswjamrock

3 ай бұрын

@@Simon-dm8zv nope

@AhmadSyarif92

3 ай бұрын

@@Simon-dm8zv Someone else will build the farm, as long as the people in the Netherlands keep eating the Gouda

@Simon-dm8zv

3 ай бұрын

@@AhmadSyarif92 It’s a pretty weak argument. If governments want to get rid of a certain industry, they will. It just takes time.

0:55 Per hectare is the key word here, being pretty much the most densely populated small country in Europe means that obviously the Netherlands will always appear high on per hectare graphs so stupid logic. Someone has to make the cheese just because other countries are bigger so they wont appear on per hectare maps doesnt mean the problem isnt there removing Netherlands farms wont remove the problem it just means other countries will take it on and it will be more spread out which makes no difference

@MovieSounds

3 ай бұрын

The graph at 0:57 shows that half of the nitrogen comes from agriculture. And only 10% comes from industry, including construction works for the growing population. I’m all pro farmers, but please keep the facts straight.

@CzarAlpha

3 ай бұрын

this, well said.

@helmetmcbarin

3 ай бұрын

@@MovieSounds where in my answer is the facts not straight?

@testetetet7504

3 ай бұрын

But the per hectare emission is the problem? The environment suffers when the concentration (per hectare) of nitrogen is too high.

@tijsp.8162

3 ай бұрын

It's exactly the concentration of emissions that is the problem. Nature can support a certain amount of nitrogen compounds: but due to the high concentration, nature is over saturated. Spreading out the emissions is *exactly* what would solve the problem.

The thumbnail looks like a cigarette in a corn soup bowl

In Vietnam, we eat this loofahs when it is young. It's delicous

"female cow"?

@THingOLooooooo

3 ай бұрын

She-cows 😏

@chairpants

3 ай бұрын

Yes. Male cows are lesbos

95% of The Netherlands is man made nature, so save what forest lol? My country is far from beautiful, everything is calculated and cultivated, it is just ok. This dairy farmer has nothing to fear, they will do something about meat farms first.

@Arjonko

3 ай бұрын

The next proposal will be that all reclaimed land must be returned to the sea 🤣

@jemoedermeteensnor88

25 күн бұрын

The Netherlands had a lot of forrest, Gelderland and Brabant were all forrest until the large shipbuilding industry in 16th and 17th century. There is more forest now than back then because they already realised they were screwing up.

bruh yall should visit the nilgiris plantation you'll get a good video fr

Fabrica de quesos muy buena producción de estos animales

A solution can be found, it just require innovation and not on a politicians timeline.

@MrTAGGER88

3 ай бұрын

We'll see what mother nature thinks of our carbon emissions in the meantime

@boohere2

3 ай бұрын

Yup. I can see why each side doesn't want to give up their end. Each has to make money to support themselves and others.

@roberthakchin8520

3 ай бұрын

@@MrTAGGER88 yes, it’s plant food and the Earth has mechanisms to deal with it. You have been lied to about CO2 and its effects on climate, I feel sad for you.

@MrTAGGER88

3 ай бұрын

@@roberthakchin8520 dont feel bad for me, I value listening to experts. I'm all set

@thegamer5367

3 ай бұрын

@@roberthakchin8520 the carbondioxide pollutions are not the problem in this case, its the nitrogen compounds that end up killing the rivers and forests

this was very interesting you have done an exellelent job of reporting. considering how China and Japan are developing automobiles that run on both nitration and ammonia why are is the Netherlands not gathering and selling this abroad or developing fuel themselves

if they close down these farms the need for what they produce still exists which means that the production just moves elsewhere where they will likely will emit more then they do in the netherlands. which means cutting down on livestock to curb emmisions isn't efficient since it is a global not national issue

@MrJosvanHees

3 ай бұрын

Nitrogen is a local/national issue, not a global issue.

@JaccoSW

3 ай бұрын

And that is exactly what we want. Nitrogen pollution is not an issue in most of the world. But it is in the Netherlands because of the insane scale and concentration of livestock farming. Incredibly efficient, yes. But too much of a good thing, in too small of an area. Because we keep such enormous numbers of animals in tiny areas the concentrated fumes of the manure alone turn the ground toxic and will turn the surrounding land in a barren wasteland that can only grow grass and nothing else. And if it was just one farm that wouldn't be much of an issue. But there are plenty of small towns with like 4000 people, that have more than 300 livestock farmers. Usually right next to sensitive natural reserves. Those simply exhaust too much waste.

Do they know that "Cutting in half" is the same thing as a 50% cut? Jesus.

@matejzatko2085

3 ай бұрын

exactly what i was thinking too. i was like damn, the government really backed down from half to 50%? how great

Hygiene left the chat💀

@SurvivallGames

Ай бұрын

Yeah at least they could shave their arms haha

@user-ij1nv8be3i

Ай бұрын

Wrong idea of bacteria. Bacteria are good and necessary. Also it is salted and dried.

@Gigabyte9654

Ай бұрын

@@user-ij1nv8be3i 💀bro

Let people live a peaceful life

Might be my favorite cheese

I love Gouda, my fav🤤