All the biologists in the comments spewing rebuttals as if he hasn’t already hypothesize, tested, and analyzed every possibility to contradict his claim. This man has been studying this for decades

Love the way he speaks! Heard him on Sam Harris Waking Up app and was like I have to know who this guy. Notwithstanding the knowledge he is speaking of.

Excellent talk! Regarding whether people are alarmed about genetic probability, I would say that people intuitively know that genes play a large part in our lives. People say, eg, that she is as beautiful as her mother, he takes after his dad in sports, she is good in school because her parents are smart, he is no-good like his father, etc. In professional basketball, most people will say that Lebron James is genetically gifted and that an average player even with an enormous amount of training will not be as good as Lebron.

@arash4712

6 ай бұрын

Spot on.

Very good talk.He didn’t understand the last question. The guy wasn’t saying genes could be modified but that either people would choose certain polygenic score embryo or that protéines could be created to get the same effect that some polygenic score holders would normally have. It’s very similar to what Plomin himself said : the knowledge could be leverage to give more to kid who have less and not necessarily to wipe them out. All in all, a very interesting talk.

I'm waaaay more like my Prents than I want to be. It's genetics, every time. So crucial.

@cat3584

2 жыл бұрын

Nurture and your actions can overcome that

@ishrendon6435

Жыл бұрын

​@@cat3584obviously not lol . Nurture and actions whatever that means cant change schizophrenia and other behaviors or issues lol some are innate but of course people get emotional and depressed when you fact check them about genes and behavior

Opinion: Professor Plomin has a very pleasant speaking voice. Question: How much of his success in life, in his profession, in his love life have to do with his speaking voice? Is that measurable with DNA?

@platoscavealum902

3 жыл бұрын

1) 🧬 DNA determines Professor Plomin’s voice... 2) 🗣 His voice contributes to his success.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

@@platoscavealum902 It contributes but, in his profession, it is a very minor factor. Most eminent scientists have perfectly ordinary voices. Some of them less than ordinary.

@platoscavealum902

3 жыл бұрын

👍 @@michaels4255

@frankdelahue9761

2 жыл бұрын

Probably estrogen genes.

@ishrendon6435

Жыл бұрын

​@@frankdelahue9761testosterone buddy

Incredibly articulated.

Awesome, thank you for sharing!

Thank you very much. Life Sills !

It's definitely genetics, not 100% but very high percentage. Genetics determine a person's personality and how they manage their own lives in the environment they're given. It's especially evident in education because it's a form of standard measurement that we all have to go through in some way.

@PetersFXfilms

3 жыл бұрын

Genetics don't *determine* anything. They have probabilistic effects on traits. Did you even listen to the talk? He went out of his way to criticize genetic determinism.

@anti-ethniccleansing465

3 жыл бұрын

@@PetersFXfilms I think it’s you that didn’t listen to the talk.

@PetersFXfilms

3 жыл бұрын

@@anti-ethniccleansing465 Why?

@masterofnone8400

2 жыл бұрын

@@PetersFXfilms ye that's just a semantical error on his part. Genetics don't make things necessarily impossible for people but far more or less likely in given situations

@cat3584

2 жыл бұрын

@@masterofnone8400 which can be overcome through an even more extreme nurture

I am really surprised that Google let him give this speech. It is sad to say that these days speaking honestly about biological differences is heretical (Charles Murray). But since he is not on a campus where extremely woke, ridiculous, reality-denying individuals, he doesn't have to worry about losing his job or being threatened.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

Also sad that universities have become fanatically intolerant, now have basically one-party faculties, and have abandoned the concept of academic freedom.

@nycbearff

3 жыл бұрын

Speaking about actual biological differences is fine. Pretending that genetics supports racism is the problem (and he clearly does not do that). Modern genetics has debunked the whole structure of racism that was erected long ago. Race has no biological basis. There are no genetic characteristics - even alleles that control skin color - which exist in every member of one "race" but not in anyone of another "race". It sounds like you have not learned enough yet about the findings of modern genetics.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

@@nycbearff You are wrong. Speaking about *individual* differences is fine. Speaking about *group* differences is a huge taboo that will result in discrimination and sometimes active retaliation. Your second point (no genes found in one race but not in another -- not strictly true, but mostly true) is an irrelevant straw man. In humans, other animals, and plants, racial differences are in suites of traits (or alternatively suites of genes), that is, genetic frequencies, and have never been determined by one particular allele that differs in any invariable sense. Thus, you are attacking a position that nobody has ever held, not even Hitler. The reason they are races and not species is because direct or indirect gene flow keeps the boundaries a bit fuzzy, and this is true among all races, not only human ones. Races are similar to languages. It is sometimes hard to nail down the difference between language and dialect, no language has any grammatical element that is unique to it alone, and languages also change slowly over time, yet no one denies that languages are real things that actually exist. And you could say the same thing about families, yet no one denies that families actually exist either. Americans' obsessions about race, exported to other western countries, have made them all nuts who have lost touch with reality on any matter related to this particular natural phenomenon.

@denisdaly1708

Жыл бұрын

Well, there is a very large metaanalysis by Onraet et al 2015, showing that conservatives score lower in cognitive ability, and are more prejudiced. What to do with all those low iq conservatives

@ultimateloser3411

Жыл бұрын

@@michaels4255 The sooner we actually have civil discussion and agreement about group differences and how genetics plays a role in it(individual too), the sooner humans can have world peace. But that'll never happen I guess. We're animals after all.

Do i understand correctly, that in order to increase the accuracy of the predictions we are to enlarge the amount of samples we are having? If it is so, how does correlate with the fact, also mentioned by the lecturer, that the database is only applicable to the Northern Europe and America.

@The_Scouts_Code

4 жыл бұрын

Михаил Рычагов because geneticists avoid cross-racial studies like the plague. It’s not just the countries listed. It’s Caucasian populations within those countries. The reason being that it’s career suicide to affirm racial average differences in IQ.

@jamesspacer7994

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_Scouts_Code Spot on!

@nycbearff

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_Scouts_Code But race, the whole idea that races have a biological basis, HAS been studied. Extensively. And no evidence exists for a genetic basis for race. So you're making things up, here, for your own agenda. It sounds like you believe that races are real, and you want to push that old and debunked theory - but lying doesn't change the facts, and the facts say that race is purely a made-up distinction with no basis in biology.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

Most of the researchers are in Northern Europe and America, so that is who most of the test subjects have been--people living in these areas.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

@@nycbearff You are misinformed. The researchers, to keep themselves out of trouble, have simply renamed the old races "populations" and proceeded to study their DNA differences rather extensively. Thus they can say "race does not exist" (because we have redefined the word), but "populations" (as determined by their genetic differences which correspond very closely with their visible differences studied in the past by the classical anthropologists) do exist and we will study that if you fund us, but we won't talk very much about it in public.

_Don’t take this down GoogIe!!!_

This is a hot field: genetic bioinformatics. What is going to happen is that information technology will combine with the cataloging of the variety of the human genome to engage in not just tailored medicine and education but a reduction in the mutation error right over the lifespan of the organism to increase longevity and to reduce disease. Am interested in pursuing this line of exploration and development. Note that already such high tech medicine as immunotherapy is being used effectively to combat some blood cancers.

They also inherit GRIT, which is very important in success.

@gerardogutierrez6164

3 жыл бұрын

Really? Interesting

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

"Grit" is most commonly measured as a personality trait labeled "Conscientiousness." Like IQ, it is predictive of educational attainment and the associated genes, whichever they are, likely are declining in frequency at a similar rate. Although self-reported Conscientiousness scores are only about 50% heritable, when you reduce the self report bias by averaging together the scores provided by five different assessors, the heritability rises to over 70%, similar to IQ.

@ultimateloser3411

Жыл бұрын

Oh man, this has plagued me so much. I think I lack this one. I've always observed others on how much they can exert much more effort and can only imagine how they can push through intense stress

25:50 better networking ops

04:00 BMI

Talents, as they may be quantified through polygenic scores, may be a good predictor for future success. The question is then how society and individuals can devise a better way to take into the differences and allocate resources efficiently. This may sound crazy but it’s unavoidable.

@jameseldridge3445

Жыл бұрын

Eugenics

@ultimateloser3411

Жыл бұрын

@@jameseldridge3445 People don't like it but we humans practice it through breeding, choosing friends, etc.

22:58 effects of schools

So if I'm born with bad genes and low IQ.....should I stop trying? Should I just go become a monk or something like that?

@MilanElan

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Focus on bringing happiness to others, no need to have kids

@Monaleenian

3 жыл бұрын

Stop trying to excel in fields where IQ has been shown to be a very good predictor of performance. Try to excel in an area where your genes provide you with abilities that are, relatively, your strongest. Also, don't label genes as either "good" or "bad". That's your own value judgement.

@JohnDoe-pg6eh

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. If u have low IQ, it will turn you into criminal or looser =\

@nycbearff

3 жыл бұрын

Stop trying for what? If you want to be a math whiz but your brain can't handle the concepts, does it matter what your genetics predict? If you want to be a chef but your sense of taste isn't very good, does it matter what your genetics predict? Pick something you like and that you can do, and work on that. That's true for everyone.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

You should focus on what you are best at. Testing might help you discover this. Notice that this debate is not heated because of the conclusion's possible effects on individual choices. For most purposes, those individual choices will not change very much. It's all about public policy and that is what makes this debate so contentious. Public policy in all western countries, and probably world wide by now, is based on the assumption that humans are interchangeable parts, that all human differences that matter enough to care about are the result of environmental variables that can be, and are being, manipulated by the managerial state. If the geneticists are right, then those policies are misguided and counter-productive for society as a whole and in a rational world would change in very substantial ways. That is what makes the debate so contentious and the employees, beneficiaries, and ideological advocates of the managerial state so determined to suppress this conceptual challenge to the status quo by any means possible.

Isn't Google the same company that fired an employee because he said there might be a biological difference between men and women ?

@function0077

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, which could explain the reluctance of the intelligent audience to ask questions. They ended the talk slightly early because no one else wanted to ask a question.

@jameseldridge3445

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t it weird how we have to lie and pretend things aren’t true in modern society

@jameseldridge3445

Жыл бұрын

Google also hosted Mr Watson, the co-discoverer of DNA, about 15 years ago. It’s called “DNA and the Brain”. Very interesting dialogue between he and the crowd lol

@ultimateloser3411

Жыл бұрын

@@jameseldridge3445 Ooh nice recommendation. I'll watch that. Thanks kind stranger

So the general take home message is that genetically identical people (identical twins) look (the what) very similar and are ( personalities & intelligence. The whom is also a what,i.e., genetics) very similar, regardless of the environmental variables such as parents, teachers etc. And that people whom have been taught the more Freudian psychological model may feel that such a statement goes against their status ( Employment as a Freudian psychiatrists etc), thus deny the science. Also that many inheritable traits are probabilistic not deterministic. E.g., Sociopath's are less likely (probability) to express themselves under certain environmental situations than others. e.g., Social bullies are mitigated so that they do not gain any social status by derogating others and forming "harassment" coalitions ( less aggressive people whom "befriend" the bully so as not to be the ones whom are bullied).

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"a mountain of evidence has convinced most scientists" -- how do we convince the general public?

@fabiodellorto1288

3 жыл бұрын

i love how he was saying most psychologists but he corrected himself

@cat3584

2 жыл бұрын

By twisting the facts

@michaels4255

2 жыл бұрын

@@cat3584 That is not at all necessary. Furthermore, if we were to twist the facts, because there is so much popular and elite opposition to this message, the twists would be quickly and ruthlessly exposed. I think there would be a lot more social harmony if everyone knew the truth. I think most people already grasp and accept reality in athletics. We just need to teach them that individual brains vary in their performance just like hearts, lungs, legs, etc.

@cat3584

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaels4255 nurture affects the brain as well as nature, geneticism and determinism isn’t the truth. What is your view on race and iq/the brain?

If it's all just a matter of adopting a "growth mindset" then everyone would be successful. And yet the reality is that most of us aren't. Most of us aren't even millionaires let alone billionaires so ofcourse genetics, luck play a part. The only question is which plays a bigger part genetics, luck or "hard work"? And I don't think anyone has the answer.

@AndrewNiccol

3 жыл бұрын

How dare you question Mindset?? Mindset video has 762K views!!!!! This DNA video only has 29K views.

@AndrewNiccol

2 жыл бұрын

​@@mikekane2492 How dare you to think like that? There are only two reasons you can't be competitive: Mindset and Grit. On Talks at Google channel, this DNA talk only has 36k views, but Mindset has 899k! Grit has 690K!

@cat3584

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikekane2492 not with that attitude

@cat3584

2 жыл бұрын

What growth mindset have you adopted?

@ThatisnotHair

Жыл бұрын

80% is luck

adopted siblings who are not genetically related 15:30; 15:50 dark hypothesis

22:21 "More often I think that if your data (or research) agrees with the values of the government, they'll use it, but it doesn't actually inform the policy very much."

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Why are fraternal teins 50% similar. Isn’t it possible or likely that all the genes in one egg are different than the genes in the other egg?

@garywood97

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, there are some rare cases where siblings have no shared genes. It just tends to average out at being close to 50%, that's just a statistical pattern rather than a biological one.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

@@garywood97 20,000 protein coding genes, what are the odds that two siblings would share NONE of them? If there is one chance in two they will inherit the same gene by descent, then it's like a coin toss. What are the odds of getting 20,000 tails in a row? Is it not one chance in 2 to the power of 20,000?

@nycbearff

3 жыл бұрын

Identical twins are 50% the same as each parent. Each parent contributes 50% of their genetic code. Identical twins are nearly 100% similar, genetically, to each other - they sometimes have tiny genetic differences due to mutations very very early in their development as blastocysts. They are natural clones.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

@@nycbearff His question was about fraternal (DZ) twins, not identical (MZ) twins.

@anti-ethniccleansing465

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaels4255 It’s sad that Edgar hasn’t made one actual intelligent comment in all of the threads on this video that he has posted his dumb shit on, isn’t it? The dude doesn’t even have decent reading comprehension skills, yet he thinks that he is more informed than people who know how to do legitimate research.

Results seem to be a blend of intelligence and personality when "it doesn't matter" conclusions are drawn. Intelligence may not matter, but environment may have more influence on personality. My thinking would be the child in a low income home will definitely have a different personality than one in an affluent home.

@ItsameAlex

4 жыл бұрын

all these things are taken into account and explained in his book, you are not the first person to think this

@lauramartel5297

4 жыл бұрын

Parental income is also a function of parental IQ. It correlates about 30%. Educational attainment, which has its own GWAS score, is even more highly correlated. So again, you have the confounding by genetics. Heritability folks agree that part of the differences are environmental, but genes are equally important. The other school argues no group differences are explained by any significant genetic component, and that's a hard argument to make in light of what we now know in 2020.

@evolutionrhythm4416

4 жыл бұрын

"My thinking would be the child in a low income home will definitely have a different personality than one in an affluent home." I suggest you read the book as you have not grasped the definition of personality. i.e., you could be confusing personality with a mood caused the family environment. Also Daniel Nettles has shared authorship on some of plomin's research papers, Nettle's wrote a book called , personality www.goodreads.com/book/show/1127067.Personality?from_search=true&rank=1

@WorthlessWinner

4 жыл бұрын

Personality is about as heritable as IQ and the role of shared environment in it is about as small.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

Having known people from a very wide range of backgrounds, I would say you are very definitely wrong. I am sure the average child is different, but it is impossible to make reliable predictions about a given child's personality from poor versus well to do families. Also, keep in mind that when you remove some of the noise from personality tests by averaging together tests from five different assessors, the heritability rises to a level similar to the heritability of IQ scores. However, personality is less predictive of worldly success than is general intelligence, so personality differences between rich and poor families are probably narrower than IQ differences.

Dose of reality for the sjw's

Look no further than Grant Cardone and his twin. They took somewhat different route in life but regardless became multi million dollar entrepreneurs.

The environmental isn’t systematic? What about Capitalism? It predisposes tons of us to have a set of predictable experiences which can lead certain genomes being exposed to constructs like criminality, poverty…I’m confused about unshared environmental experiences category measuring systematic aspecats of our society

How DNA DESIGNS ITSELF WITHOUT ENVIRONMENT AND ECOLOGY OFTEN FAMILIES LIVING IN.

22:30 schools matter, but

This is cool, can someone get him a bag of swedish fish though? Just to hold so it seems like he's eating with us

@anti-ethniccleansing465

3 жыл бұрын

???

@wheadable

2 жыл бұрын

Wtf

@wheadable

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao 🤣😆🤣

@jameseldridge3445

Жыл бұрын

Haha man what

A talk to Google employees about intelligence and genetics? Wow! I say "wow" because Google has been taking down videos and de-platforming anyone who teaches the facts about IQ and especially about IQ and race. I understand that it may seem "cruel" to speak the truth about IQ and various groups but it is dishonest and cruel to make people think they CAN when they CAN'T compete with certain people. We may have equal value but we are all very different in intellect and abilities and people should know both their strengths (if any) and their weaknesses.

@br7451

2 жыл бұрын

Plomin's research seems to be based on Caucasians only. The reason could be just convenience and avoidance of race as another variable, or is it to avoid a political backlash like what Charles Murray received?

@JimDeferio

2 жыл бұрын

@@br7451 I'm thinking it is to avoid political backlash. People who have poor impulse control and a warped sense of justice and equality are often quick to protest, riot and and seek punishment for the "offender". (warped sense of justice because they have no objective foundational moral basis for their judgments). Btw, there is some interesting research into testosterone receptors in various people groups and their ability to control their feelings and emotions and delay gratification.

@cat3584

2 жыл бұрын

Nurture and quality of education and culture has more to do with iq than nature

@geoffreyharris5931

Жыл бұрын

Black kids tend to do well in the performing arts but are less attuned to the subtleties of abstract reasoning, particularly as regards advanced mathematics (group theory, nonlinear partial differential equations, topological theorems), than are some whites, orientals, and Jews.

@testtestsson4927

8 ай бұрын

Haha "strengths if any" doesn't everyone have some form of strength? Maybe not wheelchair bound Alzheimer people

There are plenty of things you can do for Alzheimer's and other genetic predispositions.

@nycbearff

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, he's talking about heritability though. If you have an 80% chance of getting Alzheimer's, that's that. You can take steps to ameliorate it - but your chances of getting it remain the same.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

@@nycbearff Not quite. It is 80% in a shared environment, but if the environmental variance increases, then the genetic variance decreases. (And vice versa, the more equal the environment is made for all of society's members, the more heritable various traits become so that, if equal opportunity policies can be sustained for a sufficient number of generations, social classes will eventually evolve into genetically based castes with little mobility between them.) For example, adiposity is 70 % heritable, but if a fat person adopts dietary and activity habits that are very far removed from the average person in his culture, then the genes will respond to his new environment. If dietary and activity habits in the general population become much more diverse, then heritability measures would fall because of the increased environmental variability (while less variability would cause heritability to rise). Subsistence farmers in New Guinea were all very lean when first discovered, even though the heritability of body fat must have been at least as high, and probably somewhat higher, than in western populations. As some of them began to move to town and adopt modern habits, they got fatter, while their kinsmen back in the villages remained lean. Same gene pool, but the environmental variance had increased among them, forcing the heritability to fall for purely mathematical reasons.

18:35 DNA is systematic whereas environment is not systematic and the clone would be as similar as identical twins raised together....being raised aport does not make one any less similar.

Part of me thinks that intelligence comes from the mother for men at least. All of my guy friends who are smart had smart moms and not so smart dads. I wonder if there is a study for that

@geoffreyharris5931

Жыл бұрын

That is true, that the intelligence primarily comes via the maternal line.

@nabilbousabir4019

Жыл бұрын

Findings indicate cognitive abilities are greatly shaped by early exposure to spoken word. People who experienced neglect or isolation in their most early formative years and therefor were not exposed to spoken word are far less cognitively capable than people who were. In fact, MRI scans reveal that regions in the brain responsible for different cognitive functions were adequately developed in people were exposed to regular spoken word in their earliest develpmental stages and people who didnt experience frequent exposure to spoken word in those stages we're underdeveloped in those regions of the brain. These differences were substantially apparent in achievement in later years. It was particularly apparent in academic achievement. There also a counter stance which is detailed in the books mindset and the brain that changes itself which debunk neurological nihilism.

@testtestsson4927

8 ай бұрын

I am male and smarter than both my parents especially my mother

@jameseldridge3445

5 ай бұрын

@@testtestsson4927Obv you’re not that smart if you think an anecdotal disproves a hypothesis.

IQ is inherited My kids are proof. I'm average IQ. I'm glad I married a high IQ man It has given my kids such an advantage in school. The oldest got into mensa @8. The youngest is too young to be tested. And I'm a pretty laid back parent. 🤣

@cat3584

2 жыл бұрын

Poor kids, just watch how they turn out

@ultimateloser3411

Жыл бұрын

@@cat3584 Yeah, they're surrounded by idiots like you and me lol

I just finished watching the "Three Identical Strangers", the documentary that he recommended watching only the first half of it. The reason he probably why suggested to watch only the first half of it, in the first half you have a perfect picture of Polmin's so called science, you have 3 triplets, separated at birth, one placed in a relatively poor family, the other two in a middle and rich respectively. In the first half of the documentary, the three seemed to be very much alike, same pattern of of life. To Plomin's bad luck, I also watched the rest of the documentary, only to find out that nurture played THEE most important part in their lives, sadly led to the loss of the life of one of them. People like Plomin are political, very much like Charles Murray. They stress on "genes" while playing down the important role of the environment. In here, Plomin didn't even mention the environment, only one line on his slides saying something like minor, random environmental role. Both showed up on Sam Harris' hilarious podcasts, with Murray, Sam suddenly turned to things like "fatherhood" and "reading stories" for his children before they slept, while funnily stressed on genetics. Sam Harris, perhaps to attract more people and hence make more money, speaks of "group intelligence" nowadays. Pathetic, really.

@kavorka8855

3 жыл бұрын

to see the difference between real science and this bogus, rather political view, watch Robert Sapolsky's two lectures on behavioural genetics: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l2SLvNpwnLi1orw.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/lnp9rsmgacLOorg.html

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

I think Harris has had to reluctantly accept the reality that the "environment explains all mental and behavioral differences" thesis is totally untenable. Too bad many others still will not bow to the data.

@oiuyuioiuyuio

3 жыл бұрын

​@@kavorka8855 Sapolsky's lectures are totally outdated, Mr. Batthert McHaf-Witt. Deal with it. Sapolsky gave those lectures 10 years ago, and based on data even older than that, a lot of which has been overturned. Moreover, I'm not even taking into account the very clear political bias that Sapolsky has. You're such a clown that you call Dr.Plomin politically biased with NO evidence besides the fact that you dislike the conclusions he reaches, while at the same time you recommend Sapolsky who calls himself very openly "a bleeding-heart liberal" who introduces politics once every two sentences he utters. Just sad, really. You can leave now, with your tail between your genetically defective legs.

@nycbearff

3 жыл бұрын

@@Followthesciences Dr. Polmin has a mountain of data behind his conclusions. He's not giving opinions, he's talking about studies which have been carefully run and then replicated multiple times by other researchers. So yes, those who disagree with him have to produce at least equally accurate contradictory data if they want to dispute his assertions. Unfortunately for them, that data doesn't exist.

IMHO, It is misleading to say we’re genetically 99% similar and only 1% different. As an example, take the difference between $1,000,000,000,000 (1 Trillion $), and $0,000,000,000,000 (ZERO $). Those numbers are over 90% similar, but they’re 100% different!

@Robin-ol7xd

3 жыл бұрын

What the fuck happened here? Sorry bro, but this was the exact opposite of a smart statement. You are using here the similarity of the arranged digits and comparing it with the numerical value. That's nonsensical. It is if i was to say comparing different metals by their density is misleading because cobalt (8,90 g/cm³) and copper (8,96 g(cm³) are 99.3% similar in density but their color is 100% different. But that is not the point. The optical appearance is not important and not the point. Humans share also 95% of the dna with hogs. And if you look closely you see that the majority of body functions are the same. But still there is a lot of difference especially in appearance. The human genome has 3 billion base pairs. Even 1% difference means 30000 different information points within the DNA. PS: With a numerical reference point (at your comment 1 Trillion) as 100% you can't measure similarity and end up at a sum greater than 100%. If things are 90% alike they can only be different by 10% not by 100%. Its like saying the probability of x and y in a coin toss is 70/70.

@adielstephenson2929

3 жыл бұрын

Daft prick.

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Robin-ol7xd Poor analogy, I agree. A better one might be to point out that paranoid schizophrenics are 99% similar to mentally healthy people. Chimps are 96% similar (early calculations put it even higher) to humans, but don't let your child play with one. People need to quit making this ridiculous and none too subtle implication that we can just compare the base pairs and then say "so differences don't matter."

@icygood101

3 жыл бұрын

@@Robin-ol7xd actually, your response misses the point - maybe due to a misunderstanding of what positional numerals are, at base (ba dum ts). at first, it might seem like a poor analogy, but actually, the decimal system is a code (like dna) for numerical value (which grows or shrinks exponentially to the left or right). it's not just an "optical appearance" of a small difference, and not a nonsense example, entirely. a small difference in the representation of a code, even 1 measly bit, can make a big difference in the interpretation. it all depends on what code you're using. (Prof. Plomin himself goes on to discuss big effects of small differences from many angles). but your example of density is not about numerical value of the decimal place - so not even comparable to the original example... nor should we expect density to encode color in such a way. and how did you get your measure of similarity anyway? there is no standard measure for similarity. it's just a loose concept. I could devise a measure which, for a large enough dataset and with enough variance, could easily sum to greater than 100%. say; abs(average - (abs(deviation)) / average, summed for all variables. "bro", you were such a dick about the comment and still proceeded to prove the point, lol. the point: that apparently small differences can make a big difference in observed effect - and that you really don't know enough to respond to someone like that.

@Robin-ol7xd

3 жыл бұрын

@@icygood101 Jeez. First: I was being a dick because I think it was nonsensical? Wow. And if you refer to me saying that this was not a smart statement: I never said he is stupid or whatever. His example was stupid in my opinion that's all. I sometimes say stupid things, like everyone does. So why would you be offended for someone else? Second: I don't know enough? :D Sorry but I'm a university trained CS and your "analogy" about bit code is also nonsensical. He was not talking about binary arithmetic. He was clearly talking about decimals as you can read for yourself. Also: When people say "DNA is like code" it is only to talk to people without a scientific understanding of genetics and statistics. To take that literally would be catastrophic. The fact that numerical shifts in one direction change the represented value exponentially is not a natural law. It is simply because humans defined it that way. Different arithmetic systems such as decimal, hexadecimal, binary etc. are constructed by humans. DNA is not constructed by humans. "I could devise a measure which...." Well, that's why we use normed vector spaces in math so that we can measure objects in a comparable way. And still he was comparing the numerical value with the observed appearance of digits, which is nonsensical. And his point was "Mimimi, it is misleading to say things in a way I don't understand". I responded to this and his nonsensical analogy. I was never making a point that "small changes" can't have a "big effect", because words like "small" & "big" are not used in scientific language unless everyone knows what it precisely defines. But nice Strawmen there. You could have pointed out precisely what the actual flaw in my example was (because it could be flawed) instead of strawmaning me the whole time. And the fact that you ignore my point about him, coming up with 190% out of nowhere tells a lot about your intention to respond to me. And still with your own "measure" you completely ignore what he was trying to say. Of course you can have instances where 100+% are possible (Growth in value for example). But to say that something can be 90% similar but also is 100% different is nonsensical because you still reference only one object. Don't feel offended. I disagree with you, which is different from not respecting you. If you have knowledge about the scientific method you should use it to articulate yourself better. If you think that I'm privy of some things there, you should be able to address them without running in circles (argumentation).

It's really sad to see so much effort being wasted on a science that scratches the surface of cognition without even getting a glimpse of what personality actually is.

With the woman who raised a chimp from being an infant, to when he was an adult male, the the changes towards aggressiveness in adult males vs. the nurture of being raised as a child, - such was what went on with the chimp who attacked the adoptive mother’s best friend who bit off her eyelids, nose, lips broke all her facial bones, bit off all her fingers with the exception of one thumb - so if one were to apply genetics vs. nurture, in the end the wired in biology totally dictated the outcome. Even when we say, “do not adopt chimpanzees”, someone is going to find a way to do it anyway. No matter, belief about nurture vs. genetics, is such a strong conditioning, that even after her best friend’s face and hands were destroyed, this adopted mother or owner of the aggressive chimp said if she could go back and choose whether to adopt a chimp or not, she would have done no differently. Some cannot or will not learn from mistakes they make, they think life should be what they want it to be, terribly naive. In comparing intelligence racially, we have mostly a Black population which is mixed race mostly, and may be darker than Caucasians but they are far lighter than those who are not mixed race in Africa. If a study is done how will they create a sample to test anything when people are going to be interested in the science to learn the difference in what happens in racial mixture, and the effect is not on the individual studied but on what would happen if the results were handed to read on MSNBC, and there would then be a riot. It could be that the study was to understand even though Black children are part White, the gene which makes them largely lactose intolerant seems to always be inherited. How about the effect on having diarrhea constantly would do to your ability to learn! If you put the American Black person in Africa, the tribe, being 100% Black might not accept him unless he was famous as did the tribe Obama said his father was from. Actually, it takes a lot more mixing of White with Black to get a man who has such a light complexion and since his mother was not part Asian, where he inherited features that made him share those features. He almost looked Filipino. Would love to see his DNA breakdown for where his ancestors came from. Once again, it would be interesting but the subsequent rioting would not be. Dr. Ben Carson’s mother was determined to help her sons achieve in school and took her boys to church and from a mother who had no husband’s involvement in the home, both her boys graduated college and have achieved tremendous things. Dr. Carson’s brother is an engineer. So in this case the mother made her sons read books and give her book reports, they became interested in learning and in the church that they attended, Black people were well received and in positions of teaching and also being pastors, so they had role models for men who were worth looking up to. So in this case, the environment was the big difference. If Black people are no longer forced in schools to drink milk, you get another doctor, Dr. Milton Mills and he is brilliant too. You cannot achieve what you can achieve if you are perpetually kept sick. What should be studied to help the people who are here, is if Black people live more successfully in terms of healthy eating some of the plants eaten in Africa so that they do better in health because they are more adapted to these foods, then they can achieve more in education and such a study would be much better received, hence no riots. People respond much better to everything if they are well. The sad fact is that many Black people do not still, even make it to retirement because the Standard American Diet is quite frankly, more lethal to them. I have had many friends who are Black, I am not against them in the least, but they have had a horrible past in this country, to help them get well so they can live as long and be in good health, their academic achievement will also improve. Both the Black doctors I have noted are both vegetarian/vegans. They got away from being sick and look what they achieved. They are two of the most positive people I have ever heard speak and as far as racism they are not, they are inclusive to everyone. But they are WELL. Lactose intolerance is basically absent in White Europeans but not all, if you inherited DNA because you are related to Genghis Khan who share his DNA all over Eastern Europe, you could be like me, as allergic to dairy products as a Black person. However a White person with a reaction to dairy is sick differently: chronic constipation, vs. chronic diarrhea in a Black Person which is a more serious condition as people generally do not die from constipation but it does not mean you are well. I do better without dairy also. Both conditions: diarrhea and constipation do have a similar effect on leaky gut, both are absorbing toxins the as the intestines are not processing food well and pathogenic bacteria are making their way into the blood stream. It is one thing to offer other kinds of milk at school but it is almost like this, most people think dairy is healthy unless they got sick from it. In the long run dairy is causing breast cancer and prostate cancer in later life but White people survive this more than Black people. Black people do not need to be poisoned in the school lunchroom. If a parent does not want milk served or has a doctor’s note, that should settle it. I see no reason why we have to be married to milk. Children who drink water with lunch are just fine.

@cat3584

2 жыл бұрын

Christ tldr?

Ok but his voice gives me a semi

Shown by the two people below me let me read no further as knee-jerk brick walls that just love to blame and scrolls and scroll away. ////My issues: They can’t be DNA. it can’t be DNA. no no no. it has to be society. it has to be my mom. It has to my camp counselor or priest. it Has to be somebody.... it can’t just be me!?!? It’s gotta be my color, it’s gotta be McDonald’s. It’s gotta be somebody..........anybody??????//// Regarding this brave man entering the doors Google and driving cerebral facts into the shuttering amygdalas of our new class of men (leaving chicks out just to make a point), and men they are. (Don’t think I’m just going to hit with a cheep slur)Doods, guys, metrosexual is obviously out but, sht you’re not gay. But you aren’t....well, I digress. The only reason this speakers voice is soothing is because it takes that type of tone to get anywhere close to some sort of hypothalamic junction hooked to a semblance of a clear and untrammeled field in the brains of these assembly line bricks. If the cat came out with any authority you just see the same old bobble head pearl clutching unable to deform from the shape they find so comfortable. So easy. So righteous. I see the attraction of stackable right angles. And we love some of your points. Just quick with the mimicry, say something that separates you from the other blocks and from your new lone shaped idea, we will then refine. But just know it’s gunna get worse, not better for your point when it comes to DNA. Consider this lecture right. And some your talks I power through do change me toward your view. Try it. It’ll make you smarter. :::Oh my gawd:::

@cat3584

2 жыл бұрын

Were you lobotomized?

@rodneythuman9082

Жыл бұрын

Ok then then don't hold people accountable for being violent evil because.......genetics

I don't deny influence of genetics but Plomin (and many of them) interpretation of heritability makes it seem absolutist. There are probabilistic results, not deterministic, but when they are disseminated in the media they usually make it look like this, not impartially and usually in favor of genetics. 19:27 Why don't you talk about a triplet taking its own life and the possible influence of the environment on that? Film talk about it.

@brianfinnegan9700

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but when to take groups as a whole u can make solid claims about them

@michaels4255

3 жыл бұрын

He does talk about it (indirectly) when he discusses the influence of "idiosyncratic effects" that by their very nature cannot be systematically measured (Plomin's "dark hypothesis"). So the second big finding is this one 15:01 I just alluded to that the environmental effects are 15:04 important, but they're not [nurture] 15:06 in the sense of systematic effects of the environment. 15:09 Adoptive children-- a third of adoptive families 15:12 adopt a second child, and they're genetically 15:14 unrelated to each other. 15:17 They correlate zero. 15:19 Whereas siblings who grow up together and share genes, 15:21 they correlate substantially-- 15:23 0.2 for personality and 0.3 for, say, cognitive development. 15:30 So for 30 years, people have been 15:32 trying to find out what are these mysterious factors that 15:35 make two kids in a family different from one another? 15:38 And it could be lots of things-- accidents, or illnesses, 15:42 or different peers, or the parents treating them 15:46 differently-- but after 30 years of research, 15:47 no systematic factors have been found. 15:51 And so I've come to the conclusion, 15:53 called the dark hypothesis, that the effects 15:55 are essentially idiosyncratic, stochastic, random, 16:00 in a word, chance. 16:02 So they're unsystematic. 16:04 It could be like Bill Clinton in his biography, 16:07 he talks about why did he go into politics. 16:09 And he says, it's because at 16, he shook JFK's hand. 16:14 See, that would be a good example of this. 16:16 I mean, that's not a systematic variable 16:17 you could measure very well.

@shamtradtam3769

3 жыл бұрын

He literally said they are probabilistic in the first part of the lecture 🤦‍♂️

Matthew 22 \\\\ 29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. John 14 \\\\ 23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. John 12 \\\\ 47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. 49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. 50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.” Matthew 10 \\\\ 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it. Galatians 6 \\\\ 7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 1 Corinthians 6 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

@vdub319

4 жыл бұрын

JOTASTIBA God is not real.

@biblenewsbibilicas9464

4 жыл бұрын

@@vdub319 AND HOW, ARE YOU SO SURE ???

@vdub319

4 жыл бұрын

JOTASTIBA People aren’t comfortable with ignorance so they create truth. Time passes, truths improve... some people accept that, some people don’t. Progress continues regardless.

@biblenewsbibilicas9464

4 жыл бұрын

@@vdub319 Matthew 12 \\\\\ 34 You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. 35 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36 But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.

@vdub319

4 жыл бұрын

JOTASTIBA your god-complex is showing.

He should start off talking on EPIGENETICS, then GENE ACTIVATION! If a kid eats the same food and drink as the parents do and follow the parents patter, then the same genes wouldl be activated and de-activated in child and parents! Feed all the kids in a class the same food and give them the same emotional energy. There genes would be activating together. But all kids get different levels of everything in life and that programs there GENES differently. He says kids with parents that did good in school will have kids good in school. Thats a LOAD a dunky.. : ) lol This guy is using data that may be compromised, like every other study twisted for an AGENDA.

@vdub319

4 жыл бұрын

Feeling FeNi “But all kids get different levels of everything in life and that programs their GENES differently.” IQ heritability predicts for this.

@AbhishekSingh-pp1ks

4 жыл бұрын

I think a leading behavioral geneticist probably thought about that and accounted for it.

@element5999

4 жыл бұрын

Epigentics has been studied as a possible factor for the variances in intelligence, particularly in the twin studies which are ideal for teasing it out. So far, no significant signal of epigenetic effects has emerged in the data. To date, it appears that epigenetics has little influence on a large and more complex trait like intelligence.

@element5999

4 жыл бұрын

Plomin's book goes into great detail about the studies of twins, both identical and fraternal, who were raised together, raised apart, and who lived in both shared and non-shared environments. The same has also been done for adoptees raised in families together with the biological children of the parents (shared environments between non-genetic siblings). None of these large and long-term studies have supplied much evidence of epigenetics having explanatory power for any behavioral/IQ variations. Respectfully, you should familiarize yourself with the actual science and evidence before making the claims and charges that you do here. Otherwise it sounds like you are the one with an ideological agenda.

@jayachandranthampi4807

4 жыл бұрын

It's like Living and Dieing are same technically... Emergent Experience of this contradictory looking affect, is Living. Genes like infrastructure influences the result.

racist

@ultimateloser3411

Жыл бұрын

Reality is often disappointing