The thing to remember is that, in the novella at least, Jekyll and Hyde are the same person. There is no split personality, although one could argue for a degree of disassociation as the book goes on. Jekyll is a highly repressed Victorian who sheds his inhibitions as Hyde. The person who tramples a child and murders a man in the street was inside Jekyll all along.

@cha5

Жыл бұрын

Actually there is some question about Jekyll and Hyde and their similarities, Hyde has an energy and a will to be alive that goes beyond just a case of split personality or just being the same man, Utterson the lawyer tells us that Jekyll was “wild when he was young.” It’s never specified what Jekyll did back then, was he a whoremonger? Someone who trampled children? Or a homosexual? Jekyll became a cold scientific man dabbling in metaphysics who dreams of separating one’s good self from one’s evil self. There is even an argument that Hyde’s murderousness may be part of the Jekyll within him who is as split as the Doctor within him, as when he kills Sir Danvers Carew is it Hyde raging at the stranglehold of respectability that has held him inside Jekyll for so long standing before him? Also there is some thought that Hyde represents an evolutionary throwback being described as “scarcely human” and a “troglodyte.” (Underground creature) As well as scampering around like a monkey. Darwin’s theory of evolution was still a controversial topic in the 1880’s after all, Nothing about Stevenson’s novel is really all that simple when you really examine it.

@aidancross9756

Жыл бұрын

Indeed so. I think it was R. L. Stevenson himself who said "Hyde was in Jekyll as Jekyll was in Hyde". Much as in Frankenstein, in which Dr Frankenstein himself, rather than his creation, is the true 'monster' of the story, the creature a victim of the scientist's vanity and hypocrisy, a similar dynamic is at work regarding Jekyll and Hyde.

@FortisKnight

Жыл бұрын

I agree that Adam, the creature forced into life by Dr Frankenstein, is in fact essentially a victim of his creators mad desire to win the battle with Death. And when Frankenstein beheld the living being he was positively obsessed with creating, he finally realized the horror of the creature’s features. The eyes especially. Rather than accept responsibility for either refining and nurturing his creation or disposing of it immediately, he ran and hid from it. Hyde, by comparison, is not a victim I would not think. He actually relishes being freed. And I agree that, in the novella at least, Jekyll and Hyde are not two separate identities per se‘, there is a matter of control. Jekyll controls how much his Hyde is allowed to willingly abandon himself to his wild impulses and base desires. As time passes, it is Hyde who then begins to take control more and more, forcing Jekyll to both feel the frustration of being no longer able to impose his self repression on both identities, and recall the brutal and eventually murderous barbarities he commits. Addicted to these impulses, no longer able to essentially self medicate himself back to his formerly consistent civilized behavior. If this was a nonfictional story of an individual living in the modern world, Jekyll makes himself the victim, Hyde is the rampage of addiction unchecked.

@sydmohammadali6421

Жыл бұрын

i agree with this, but i like to think that it is a split personality.

@IronycheinPain

Жыл бұрын

yeah in the book, Jekyll literally just makes a costume with enhancements to become Hyde. I do like to believe that in his confession letter, Jekyll isn't splitting from Hyde, but rather he's trying to deflect his own actions onto a scapegoat like "oh but this is the real me, the evil guy hyde is someone else even though we're one and the same trust me utterson". The thing is that beforehand, Jekyll says that he started fulfilling what he wanted in secret as himself, which is what triggered the no-potion transformations in the first place. it's akin to Jekyll making a fursuit, wearing said fursuit to fulfill his desires, then that fursuit becomes his new body even after he threw it away and burned it because he still does those desires even after, as if he never actually learned his lesson

Not just the Hulk, but other comic book characters as well, such as Two-Face, The Lizard, and The Green Goblin. Ironically, all of them are green.

@wcapewell3089

Жыл бұрын

two-face has been seen in green (which I don't really like the look of to be honest), but most of the time he is either blue, red or purple.

I'd like to see a faithful adaptation to the book. It read like a detective story to me because it was told from the perspective of his lawyer, Utterson. The recent adaptation takes this approach but deviated from the true nature of the Jekyll-Hyde dynamic.

@Show.Theater

Жыл бұрын

ill do it

My favourite bit of LoEG, they keep to the original novel by saying Hyde was shorter than Jekyll, and explained how he got so big

I've read that when Robert Louis Stevenson showed the rough draft of the novella to his wife she was so appalled by it that he destroyed it and began again from scratch. Would be nice to be able to compare it to the final version.

@Ra-sf3gq

Жыл бұрын

Actually robert was the one that burnt the original manuscript

@imcallingjapan2178

8 ай бұрын

@@Ra-sf3gq Thats what he said

@JesseJordanTheSuper

7 ай бұрын

I would have loved to read it.

Mr Hyde was supposed to be smaller, or at very least shorter than Dr Jekyll. most modern fiction just treats him as the incredible hulk.

Not unlike the werewolf, I always pictured Edward Hyde as the darkside of man. The unhinged, selfish, savage side of us that wants to do all the evil things we hold back. The ID Ego thing, I forget which does which. Since it was mentioned Hyde was a young man, perhaps this could symbolize the reckless, impulsive youth acting with zero regard for the lives of others.

@HBHaga

Жыл бұрын

The id covers the basic, selfish impulses and is kept in check by the ego which is in turn governed by the ethical decisions of the superego.

So many versions of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde; I agree that they are sharing the same body, even the same memories. And most versions hint that Hyde explores his love of life to the detriment of all around him. Hyde is completely lacking both inhibitions and impulse control. Jekyll, by his own admission, has always kept himself in control, suppressing his inner drives that are not compatible with the upper class or educated Victorian behaviors. Those simple differences make Jekyll and Hyde nearly completely different individuals; as most individuals are known not necessarily by their appearance but by their actions. And those actions, driven by the thinking and decision beneath, can cause an almost completely different description of an individuals physical description by observers. The expression, posture, movement, and stride all reveal the personality within. And no one can disagree that Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde are of different personalities. As a side note, it is hinted that Hyde feeds on the very mature Jekyll’s repressed desires, for example the attraction to women of the Victorian lower class

I really enjoy the 1988 Jack The Ripper miniseries. It was nice to see it get a little credit here. I appreciate all you do and how much work you put into your sources.

@ChannelingSpirits

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I actually hadn't heard of the '88 Jack the Ripper until editing this. It wasn't going to be included but once I found it, I had to add a line from it.

So happy you included the bit from Arthur.

Love the book and love the musical even more. Probably my favorite "monster" next to Frankenstein's monster.

I found the Spencer Tracy version one of the most interesting. He doesn't really turn into an unnatural creature, but he loses all the "good" qualities about himself. Hyde is still technically Jekyll, just a version that doesn't care too much about what he does. Even naming himself Mr. Hyde is really just him trying to distance himself from that part of him. Also interesting in that version was that in addition to the "Hyde formula" he'd also created a serum that did the exact opposite - making vicious animals docile and tame. Curiously, this appears to be what he was going for when he stumbled on the Hyde formula - but he ultimately never does anything with it.

@danninmatthews5640

4 ай бұрын

If it's realistic, he would be arrested as Jekyll because he's physically the same. The reason for the people not arrested because horror involves stupid.

He most definitely deserves another adaptation.

I'm surprised the version from Once Upon a Time wasn't featured in any capacity.

On the subject of comics, surprised you didn't go into Batman's Two-Face. The Golden Age issues referred to him as a "modern day Jekyll-Hyde!"

Not only was Hulk inspired by Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde but Marvel also made there own version of Mr. Hyde this verison of Mr. Hyde is not Dr. Jekyll from the book but a scientist named Calvin Zabo who was fasinated by the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde he decided to make the same formula and turned himself into Marvel's Mr. Hyde and became a recurring foe for Thor because if his first apperance in Journey into mystery # 99

Of course, there are some movie versions where Hyde is shown as handsome and seductive, for instance Hammer's The Two Faces of Dr Jekyll (1960) and the 1980 TV version starring David Hemmings, while in Hammer's 1971 Dr Jekyll and Sister Hyde, Hyde is a beautiful woman, played by the excellent Martine Beswicke.

he deserves another adaption

My favorite version is Mary Riley my God Malkovich was perfect

I really enjoy these types of videos, thanks for bringing them back and keep up the good work CS!

@ChannelingSpirits

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! We love doing them they are just a beast! (pun intended) If we can we are going to try and do Headless Horseman before/around Halloween.

What vids do you have planned for the Halloween season?

What was that cartoon from toon disney featuring Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde?

@clownchan

7 ай бұрын

X men season 2 episode 12 reunion part 1994

New Book Plot-In an attempt to control his transformations, Dr. Jekyll studies a religion that originated on the Indian sub-continent. Title-"Hyde and Sikh"

The 1941 version is my favorite.

No mention of the 1920 version 🤔🤔

Why the video game proton pack overheat and the movie proton pack does not ?

7:33 what is that from

@ChannelingSpirits

Жыл бұрын

X-Men: The Animated Series, season 2 episode 12 "The Reunion Part 1"

Hey where did that Jekyll and Hyde cartoon transformation come from?

@ChannelingSpirits

Жыл бұрын

There's a few, can you give me the timestamp?

@misterbowtie3383

Жыл бұрын

@@ChannelingSpirits 7:33

@Modern_Robot

Жыл бұрын

@@misterbowtie3383 The X-Men Animated series from 1992. Specifically _Reunion Part One_ from the second season.

MK Ultra Program and Alter Egos!!! Mr. Hyde = Dark Alter Ego!!!

I strongly prefer the version of Hyde that is short, weak, and pathetic. The imagery of evil being sneaky and conniving, unable to stand in the light of day unmolested and unable to hold a candle to the strength and beauty of righteousness, appeals to me. That being said, my favorite performance of both Jekyll and Hyde is Tome Bateman in the 2015 BBC series Jekyll and Hyde. He has so much fun switching between the characters and really hams it up in the best way.

@orinanime

Жыл бұрын

Slightly shorter (as evidenced) by the larger fitting clothes) is about all we get in terms of descriptions of his physical attributes in any negative way. I don't recall any description of Hyde being weak or pathetic. He's described as a juggernaut who physically beats another man to death. Sneaky. Yes. Conniving. Yes. But, unable to hold a candle to the strength of righteousness? I'm not so sure. Is there something from the text to support this?

@jedh3721

Жыл бұрын

@@orinanime I said that I prefer the version of hide as I described. I did not say that it was a more accurate version. The book is far too vague to claim anything specific as being accurate. But no, he was certainly not a "juggernaut." That version comes from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen as was explained in this very video. And again, as explained in this video, he is only ever described "trampling" one person. Despite being much smaller that Dr. Jekyll. So I don't think that was meant to be a feat of strength. Just a barbaric, animalistic act of rage.

@orinanime

Жыл бұрын

@@jedh3721 The "Juggernaut" description doesn't actually come from LXG. I think you might have missed part of the video and overlooked part of my comment. He is specifically described as a "damned juggernaut" in RLS' text. I'm not referring to his size. Nor is the terminology. The term "juggernaut" doesn't actually refer to size anyway. It specifically means: "a huge, powerful, and overwhelming force" Which is why I called into question your preference for a depiction of Hyde as "weak and pathetic unable to hold a candle to the strength of righteousness". I just don't see that portrayal as fitting the character. Again to be VERY clear. I specifically started my comment by addressing the fact that Hyde is indeed smaller than Jekyll. Also, I actually hate the depiction of Hyde as presented in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (comic and movie) and Van Helsing.

chonny jash ref??

@Anne_Drawings

9 күн бұрын

I love how we reached so far that any mention of duality summons us, lmao

What cartoons are shown at 6:25 & 7:28 ?

@ChannelingSpirits

Жыл бұрын

6:25 does seem to be a cartoon but 7:28 is 1934's “Hell’s Fire” starring Willie Whopper. We also used animate segments from: 1933-Flip the Frog “Soda Squirt” 1938-“Have You Got Any Castles?” 1954-“Dr. Jerkyl’s Hide” 1955-“Hyde and Hare” 1960-“Hyde and Go Tweet” 1970-Scooby Doo Where Are You? “Nowhere to Hyde” 1978-Pink Panther “Pink Lightning” 1994-X-Men: The Animated Series “Reunion Part 1” 1994-Pagemaster 1998-“Arthur’s Almost Live Not Real Music Festival” Arthur

@orinanime

Жыл бұрын

@@ChannelingSpirits thank you very much for the information. I greatly appreciate it.

@orinanime

Жыл бұрын

@@ChannelingSpirits this list inspired me to see if there were any direct adaptations that were animated. Turns out there's only ever been one. In 1986, an animated Australian telefilm. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. It's available for free on streaming services like Tubi.

@ChannelingSpirits

Жыл бұрын

@@orinanime We'll have to check it out! We did our best to cover most versions we could find. Is it any good?

@orinanime

Жыл бұрын

@@ChannelingSpirits it's interesting to say the least. It's 55 minutes. So it's the story of the novella on fast forward. It's surprisingly thorough/accurate. But it does the thing of presenting Jekyll as a young man. And Hyde as a Hulk-like figure, twice the size of Jekyll. But the rest of the story matches the original story surprisingly well for a children's cartoon. They don't shy away from murder/violence. It has a bizarre tone with some oddly upbeat music score choices. But overall it's not bad. I'd recommend it as a curiosity more than anything else.

He’s a bit two faced.

Go watch Dr. Jekyll and Sister Hyde for a really different adaptation. Not only is Hyde a woman but Dr. Jekyll seems to do just as much evil things as himself.

@danninmatthews5640

4 ай бұрын

If he's doing evil deeds as himself, why the potion in the first place? When it came to Jekyll going for a physical transformation and cover name, because he's a respected member of Victorian society.

Why do zombies eat brains

Alcohol

@Huskrrrr

Ай бұрын

Yes, the story was based on an alcoholic.

@Gene-kl1br

Ай бұрын

Oh no doubt same person. It's how it was written.

First first

Never like the spencer tracy version he sucked!!!..1931 was brutal... And will always be my favorite version