"Lefties will sell out our country!" "Yes Javier please sell out our national resources to American Billionaire's!"

@oldishandwoke-ish1181

4 ай бұрын

It worked for us Brits! ............... NOT.

@MeatBread003

4 ай бұрын

Someday we will discover that Javier work for the CIA 😂

@beedubree2550

4 ай бұрын

lefties cant sell out your country if you already did it first, the man is a genius

@deletethis7848

16 күн бұрын

>people unironically simps for peronists You can either be dumb or evil, not both ffs

Milei supporters are quickly finding out that "it can't possibly get worse" was a terrible miscalculation

@NRobbi42

5 ай бұрын

Those racist psychopaths are getting what they asked for, I just feel bad for everyone else.

@drewm9903

5 ай бұрын

Are they though?

@8lec_R

5 ай бұрын

​@@drewm9903yes. Yes. Yes. Just because you live under capitalism doesn't mean you've seen the worst shit. Stuff can get much worse.

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

5 ай бұрын

It always can

@NRobbi42

5 ай бұрын

@8lec_R What I think they mean is that Milei supporters don't have the capacity to admit they were wrong and are happy as long as the libs are owned.

The fact that so many clueless americans make genuine fan edits of this man and adore him for "owning the libs" is as hilarious as it is concerning.

@cezarcatalin1406

5 ай бұрын

The same clueless Americans who will carry Donald Trump back into the white house.

@khai96x

5 ай бұрын

> expecting reactionaries to actually think

@agridley1116

5 ай бұрын

@@khai96xtoo true khai too true

@dangerousdays2052

5 ай бұрын

@@TheTournesoul

@mgm8255

5 ай бұрын

​@@TheTournesoulJust because you are argentinean doesn't mean that you know your own history and that you are right in what you say. I am argentinean and I have a completely different opinion than yours. In the first 12 of those 16 years, we emerged from a socioeconomic crisis, paid a trillion-dollar debt to the IMF and became the country with the highest salaries in the entire region. Obviously not everything was perfect, but believing that adopting the same policies as Mauricio Macri in 2015-2019 will get us out of the problem those same policies got us into is absurd.

Defunding everything, removing all economic safety and security, and privatizing basic human needs, what could possibly go wrong?

@ahmedrazick4946

5 ай бұрын

Revolution?

@marijnyboy8402

5 ай бұрын

​@@ahmedrazick4946 at this point revolution would probably bring something better. So not a thing that could go wrong but a thing that can go right.

@JohnT.4321

5 ай бұрын

LoLibertarians still believe their economic ideology would work but reality says different.

@FourtyParsecs

5 ай бұрын

Ask Chile about the Friedman program they did (unwillingly) then ended in economic collapse by 1982. And the USA was like "Looks good! Five stars!"

@cezarcatalin1406

5 ай бұрын

@@JohnT.4321 Yea but every time when reality drops an anvil on any goofy libertarian project, libertarians start crying about how socialism is actually what went wrong and claim that wasn't "real capitalism". You know, we should also claim that every time a socialist government did an oopsie (and it was actually their mistake) that wasn't actually "true socialism" and capitalism was at fault somehow. Of course, we don't have the brainwash machine to push that goofy ass lie though but libertarians get away with it.

Hey there! I'm Brazilian, so please don't scare me by putting Bolsonaro on our flag. Lula is now our president! I don't want to see Bolsonaro's face, not even in the history books! Thanks, I love your videos. Stay strong, my Argentinian brothers and sisters.

@xspager

5 ай бұрын

Yes, but he is secretly a commie (he use to vote the same as the PT party when he was in congress)

@AlexGreat87

5 ай бұрын

Thank you there, things are gonna get rough

@blah204

5 ай бұрын

Cringe

@missk1697

5 ай бұрын

thanks for introducing yourself@@blah204

@Gakulon

5 ай бұрын

@@blah204 Source?

Milei's fans are the most cultist people I've ever seen

@somerandomguy___

5 ай бұрын

I believe you, but what examples have you seen of them?

@leonje99

5 ай бұрын

​@@somerandomguy___ Oh boy YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE IT IF WE TELL YOU

@xspager

5 ай бұрын

Nothing like the US Dems screaming "four more years" over people begging Biden to stop a Genocide

@dangerousdays2052

5 ай бұрын

@@somerandomguy___ On 4chan they are posting AI images of Milei ray-pehing celebrities and calling him the God Emperor.

@somerandomguy___

5 ай бұрын

@@leonje99 that makes me want to know even more

in italy we make the joke that argentinians have voted a right-wing populist because 60% of them are of italian descent (seeing as we fell for that with berlusconi and now with the current government).

@Jefferu_Nintendomoto

5 ай бұрын

Very insightful

@cezarcatalin1406

5 ай бұрын

it's always the goddam Italians getting their noodles into everything.

@diosamurcielaga9418

5 ай бұрын

There is something to it

@ewchi-m4n012

5 ай бұрын

careful when they put pineapple on pizzas

@krejados1

5 ай бұрын

It's weird how many people sing Meloni's praises, though.

Milei is doing the "get yourself overthrown in a revolution speed run"

@landonmartin9337

5 ай бұрын

I’m taking bets that he doesn’t finish his term

@jackmonaghan8477

5 ай бұрын

@@landonmartin9337 Or goes the way of Batista in Cuba or the Shah of Iran.

@pablodonner5213

5 ай бұрын

​@jackmonaghan8477 I mean one of the guys who overthrew Batista was from Argentina so the potential is there

@tea-bd3gb

5 ай бұрын

@@jackmonaghan8477thats what I’m hoping for

@Ivotomasdelaricarda

5 ай бұрын

Eso no va a pasar, a los argentinos nos faltan muchos huevos. La mitad del pais está dispuesta a dejarse coger

"Capitalism isn't working, know what we need? MORE capitalism! Clearly that's what's lacking" jeezus.

@dangerousdays2052

5 ай бұрын

That's how the working class has been bred to think. Centuries of domestication has made them soft headed sheep.

@Ale-ft4re

5 ай бұрын

capitalism does work just dont have the same interest as the people

@JP-fb8ni

5 ай бұрын

​@@Ale-ft4reYes, shipping containers are more important than saving lives.

@Gakulon

5 ай бұрын

@@Ale-ft4re Quite sad that this is the case. Capitalism does its job incredibly well, too bad its job is to be terrible for all but a vanishingly small proportion of us

@josue.ortega

5 ай бұрын

They believe the previous peronist administrations were hardcore socialism.

"Tell me you're a CIA puppet without telling me you're a CIA puppet." Millei: Hold my Champagne!

@EsotericThoughts93

4 ай бұрын

Yeah fr. This is just the United States showing more imperial interest in South America. They take these trump wannabes and put them in a position of power to cause disruption. Exact same thing with Brazil and their even more hideous version of Jan6

If you made a Movie, 20 years ago, with a President of a major nation who is calling himself "General AnCap", it would be placed under science fiction.

@C-Farsene_5

5 ай бұрын

The Dictator ahh film

@Novusod

4 ай бұрын

It would be too absurd to ever be made into a movie.

@kamchatmonk

4 ай бұрын

Such a movie already exists. It's called "Idiocracy". I can actually recommend it, it's good.

@xuto2693

4 ай бұрын

Humanity usually underestimates it's own stupidity.

@xuto2693

4 ай бұрын

​ Why watch it when I live it every day.... :/

Elect a clown for a president, you will get a circus for a government. When the money is gone, the circus leaves. All that is left is ruined field, poverty and misery.

@KekusMagnus

5 ай бұрын

But there was no money to begin with. This is going to be an interesting circus

@Ailasher

5 ай бұрын

It's a typical scam gang trick. While one clown amuses and shocks the crowd, another part of the gang picks their pockets.

@Pabloto-dq3sx

5 ай бұрын

You guys have just created the idea for the most fire political propaganda poster I’ve ever seen.

@oikkuoek

5 ай бұрын

@@Pabloto-dq3sx Have at it, mate. I've been trying to answer to these replies whole day, with detailed info about why and what next, but nope, KZread will not allow it.

@jerrysflooringmendoza2487

5 ай бұрын

That's exactly what happened in Mexico during the neoliberals government.

It scares me how Argentina chose Milei after what we (brazilians) lived for 4 years during the Bolsonaro's administration. I mean, they were right next to us, how didn't they learn anything about candidates who self proclaim themselves as "saviors"?

@Praisethesunson

5 ай бұрын

Argentina does everything Brazil does. It just takes Argentina longer and they do it worse.

@OneMartinAmongMany

5 ай бұрын

Speaking as an Argentine, we collectively pretend Brazil doesn't exist. Jokes aside, everything seems kind of distant from Argentina. There's this kind of dizzy sense of "how bad could it really be? Don't tell me I don't want to know" that I think permeates how Argentinians think of what happens outside our borders.

@papabear90

5 ай бұрын

Because democracy and people can't be trusted to make the best decisions for themselves or their countries.

@TheForeignersNetwork

5 ай бұрын

The honest answer is that many Argentinians hate Lula just as much as the Bolsominions do. A lot of people in Argentina saw the years of the military junta as a necessary course correction, even though those years were a horrible stain on their history.

@MK-jc6us

5 ай бұрын

What Argentina has is even worse than Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro tried to play with the old "stability and values" from the conservative right. Milei is 100% into ancap logic, He is a sick combination of the worse from both Trump and Biden. Hard to beat this one in the "who is worse" game. I guess even Bolsonaro would say a straight "no" to the question about selling children... Milei is basically a Bolsonaro that watched too much South Park.

Privatization of state assets and dollar backed peso? Sounds like a C1A plant 🤡

@MercuryTheVexilliologyNerd

5 ай бұрын

wouldn't put it past the CIA - anything thats even has a slight scent of socialism is rooted out

@kobemop

5 ай бұрын

@@MercuryTheVexilliologyNerd while installing a right-wing anti-communist government lol. Also, right-wingers complain about immigrants despite their governments overthrowing socialist/communist goverments world-wide.

@ciberula

5 ай бұрын

Yup

@oldishandwoke-ish1181

4 ай бұрын

Definitely!

That president literally looks like a comic book villain 💀 how the hell did we get here 💀💀💀

@ey67

4 ай бұрын

Just like our trumpster dumpster.

Is Argentina gonna be the next 4th world country?🔥🔥

@KozelPraiseGOELRO

5 ай бұрын

At this rate, 999th.

@timmy-wj2hc

5 ай бұрын

It already is. It's going for 5th.

@liasonlee1248

5 ай бұрын

stop with the useless numbers, I'd much prefer "enslaved colony" country instead of a "4th world" country.

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

5 ай бұрын

Wait until narcocarthels replace the police

@maximemeis2867

4 ай бұрын

Or it can go back to 4th richest in the world like it was before socialism

ARGENTINA MENTIONED 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🧉🧉🧉🧉WTF IS A STABLE ECONOMY 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🧉🧉🧉🧉🧉🧉🧉

@shredderly

5 ай бұрын

This made me chuckle.

@marijnyboy8402

5 ай бұрын

What is an economy.

@niamhleeson3522

5 ай бұрын

A stable economy is a socialist economy!

@adude1237

5 ай бұрын

muchaaaaachows

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

4 ай бұрын

Wtf is stable

Argentinian here, you should hear his speech at davos, OMFG! This guy is the meme of "socialism is when the gov does things" and "everything i don't like is socialism". And people were like "we need a change" "if we elect Massa is gonna be the same as always"... Yeah, but paraphrasing Jeff Goldblum in that movie, you were so worried about if you could change it that you never thought if you should have; and even less about with whom.

@maxaleman2620

5 ай бұрын

Por fin otro argentino que entiende de primera mano lo que está pasando

@idk-ye7ur

5 ай бұрын

So they should've voted for Massa and not Milei? Voting for Massa would be the worst scene, more power to the goverment that destroyed Argentina.

@alex29443

4 ай бұрын

I mean, Argentina definitely does need radical change. It has stumbled from crisis to crisis with out of control and ineffective overnment spending, despite having some of the best land and resources available to any western economy. It is a staggering monument to structural mismanagement. I think the effort here to tear down government structures that have proven themselves un-salvagable is very sensible. I swear there are socialists who would rather keep Argentina poor than have it thrive with a free market.

@HiDefHDMusic

4 ай бұрын

@@alex29443 oh no they’re spending money on the well being of their citizens instead of increasing the value of the stock for shareholders, what will we do? How do you manage to convince yourself you’re not one of the most comically evil people to ever exist?

@diogonunes1608

4 ай бұрын

​@@alex29443you are the first comment I read of a moderate person. Everyone here wants Argentina to collapse even more. It feels like every time democracy elects someone they disapprove, they pray for misery and famine. Ridiculous

Milei: "I want a free market and no state taking part in it" Also Milei as 'the state': *Restricts free market trade with China and Brasil*

@tiagotristao4768

5 ай бұрын

that isnt true, he wants complete free trade, just no state relations

@WorldGovernmentGeoInstitut

5 ай бұрын

​@@tiagotristao4768So there WILL be completely free trade. He's just a demagogue and he's got you with his sophist, semantically driven rhetoric.

@zigoter2185

4 ай бұрын

When did he do that? He never actually did.

@idk-ye7ur

4 ай бұрын

He doesn't tho, the private sector will di whatever it wants, the state won't restrict anything. Ya'll dumb.

@iamjanedoe4real

10 күн бұрын

@@idk-ye7urcope

>But it wasn't REAL capotiaialism!11!!!1!!

@JGSM_sar

5 ай бұрын

No fucking way, leftists are parodying their own arguments now. I thought they couldn't joke

@XS-03_Apollo

5 ай бұрын

@@JGSM_sar I’ve seen capitalists say "It wasn’t real capitalism" 10 times more than I’ve seen socialists say "It wasn’t real socialism".

@JGSM_sar

5 ай бұрын

@@XS-03_Apollo Well, that's because you saw what you wanted to see - capitalists being stupid rather than what you didn't - your own being stupid. Nobody wants to see their own being the ones to lose, just like the current situation in Ukraine. Both countries state television tells their citizens that they are winning, nobody talks about their own losses

@JP-fb8ni

5 ай бұрын

​@@JGSM_sarOh, aren't we a gem at the art of whataboutism today? Of course, let's all forget about Argentina's debt-ridden economy because, hey, Ukraine! Newsflash, pal: arguing about whether capitalists or socialists say It wasn't real [insert ideology here] more doesn't change the fact that Milei's extreme neoliberal policies are disastrous. But, hey, keep waving that red herring, it suits you. Next up: arguing that Antarctica's ice melting is irrelevant because it's cold in Alaska, perhaps?

@thereformist8718

5 ай бұрын

​@JGSM_sar the capitalist system doesn't fail because of individuals. It fails cuz its a shit system

AnCaps: Governments create monopolies in free markets by picking winners! Milei is going to show you! Milei: Let's make taxpayers cover corporate debts Man couldn't even go 60 days without backtracking on his so-called theory

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

5 ай бұрын

That's a new, horrid type of neoliberalism. Milleism? AuthAnCap? Neofascist collaborationism?

@kobemop

5 ай бұрын

Taxes for the poor and no taxes for the rich. Yes, sounds very ancap lol.

@HiDefHDMusic

5 ай бұрын

@@kobemopthat’s what happens every time it’s tried, yeah, we have thousands of years of evidence proving it never works 😂

@sulimanthemagnificent4893

4 ай бұрын

"Governments create monopolies in free markets by picking winners!" Literally never true, The United States government has repeatedly subsided the dumbest and least profitable entrepreneurs/investments (whilst being given better offers by people proven more competent) simply because they were wined and dined. Literally just look at the Cornelius Vanderbilt, specifically the man he initially worked for Gibbons, who took his rivals to court in the Gibbons V Ogden case just to eliminate their monopoly on the ferry industry (a monopoly that would have never existed if not for the government of New York) and subsequently ushering in lower prices and better services over the next decades. That's of course one example, but there's others, such as the retarded rail subsidies that were done by amount track laid, incentivizing long, cumbersome logistics networks that would never have been made simply because it's a waste of money and resources (most of these don't exist anymore... I wonder why...), then you have the FDIC (deposit insurance, basically a subsidy given if they colossal fuck up), which is basically telling banks "Hey, you know that thing called sanity and lending standards... fuck 'em".

sounds like something out of a parody, it would be really funny if it didn't actually affect millions of people

IMF statement from 12 Dec 2023: “IMF staff welcome the measures announced earlier today by Argentina’s new Economy Minister, Luis Caputo. These bold initial actions aim to significantly improve public finances in a manner that protects the most vulnerable in society and strengthen the foreign exchange regime. Their decisive implementation will help stabilize the economy and set the basis for more sustainable and private-sector led growth. IMF staff and the new Argentine authorities will work expeditiously in the period ahead. Following serious policy setbacks over the past few months, this new package provides a good foundation for further discussions to bring the existing Fund-supported program back on track.” Translation: We’re looking forward to seeing the American companies whose interests we serve, and the Argentinian companies that serve our interests, own a lot more of Argentina in the near future. We also look forward to crushing the working class for the sake of further profits, and opening exciting new markets in infant and organ sales.

Speed run of turning Argentina into Somalia

@oort2108

5 ай бұрын

The best part of this is that there is a pro-Milei song that says if we continue like this (peronism) we will ruin our lifes and envy the well being of Somalia

Usually bad governance is a mix of callousness and stupidity. With Milei, it's 90% stupidity.

@hes_alive

5 ай бұрын

More like 90% evil, he knows very well what he’s doing.

@leoninocat5070

5 ай бұрын

Yes

@raghuvarv

5 ай бұрын

​@@hes_alive I think Milei is like Modi. It's a combination of stupid and evil. Yeah, it's definitely both.

@Huy-G-Le

5 ай бұрын

More like 90% Reddit understanding of the economy.

@raghuvarv

5 ай бұрын

@Huy-G-Le That's overestimating his understanding of the economy. Milei's understanding of the economy is more on the level of Ronald Reagan (may he rest in piss) and Nirmala Sitharaman (who needs to stfu and smoke some weed).

Misheard "fringe candidate" as "french candidate" and was really confused for a second

@oort2108

5 ай бұрын

Same

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

5 ай бұрын

Misread the subtitles even. Thank you for writing that comment.

My mom works at a Italian multinational company here in Brazil and they can't get the money of the autoparts they sold in Argentina because of dolar restrictions. They are being forced to take those bonds and they will probably remove their argentine operation all together after that. A lot of people are going to get fired...

@silkozmic9619

5 ай бұрын

I don't think this government cares about national industry, they don't care about making cars anymore. It is just exporting soy, beef, and lithium. A lot of people will lose their jobs.

This clown is gonna doom Argentina forever.

Before the election: "I want to end corrupt self serving!" After the election: "My wholly unqualified sister is primo minister material, huh?"

This is the sort of thing that happens when centrists politicians don't handle the people's business well.

@gilsonrogeriolimaoliveira2807

5 ай бұрын

Centrists job is to please the billionaires while trying to not screw the people too much. A quite hard job in wealthy countries, let alone a poor one in continuous crisis since the 1950s.

@drewm9903

5 ай бұрын

"Centrists" somehow are the worst extremists in modern politics.

@michimatsch5862

5 ай бұрын

@@gilsonrogeriolimaoliveira2807 pfft, yeah, right. got another one?

Pretty accurate analysis. Only one detail, milei's government has pulled back on privatization of state companies. This happened just a couple of days ago

@alexpkeaton4471

5 ай бұрын

No buyers? :P

@Maurisanz211

5 ай бұрын

@alexpkeaton4471 well it was part of a mega law sent to congress, the article that proposed the privatization of state companies was really controversial since many of those companies were not deficitary. My guessing is that they pulled back to help the law get passed through congress

@maximipe

5 ай бұрын

@@Maurisanz211 Not really, they wanted to privatize up to 41 state owned companies and only 1 or 2 were discarded

@sebastiantigani2720

5 ай бұрын

In response to nation wide strike

@matiastimm

4 ай бұрын

​@@Maurisanz211​, actually they ended up pulling back the entire mega-law after the people took to the streets. As the old saying goes, "el pueblo unido jamás será vencido."

Working Class: Hey, the economy is doing bad, let's elect a fascist cartoon character.

@dangerousdays2052

5 ай бұрын

@@davidanalyst671 Lol, did you even watch the video? 🤣😂

@no-nx3ip

5 ай бұрын

im not sure I would call him fascist but I feel like having another of the same type of leader wouldn't solve the problem of argentina, if argentina is going to recover it must go through drastic changes and the current parties surely wouldn't do it

@ducksareurlords3782

5 ай бұрын

Eh Milei is more like Pinochet mixed with Doctor Doofenschmirtz

@drewm9903

5 ай бұрын

@@davidanalyst671 Considering the USD is becoming the equivalent to garbage and now they are hostage to an empire I say they made the wrong bet.

@drewm9903

5 ай бұрын

@@no-nx3ip I probably would but time will tell that story if it's true.

At least FaSinPat (formerly Zanon), the worker-owned/run ceramic coop and well-known example of the recovered factory movement, appears to still be operational. That's hopeful.

Ancap the moment they realize that without government laws, nothing makes the concept of private property possible to ensure

@marshallsweatherhiking1820

4 ай бұрын

They just become fascists.

If I'm not mistaken, he had some financial support from right-wing spanish party Vox, I can't confirm this thought. I've lived in Argentina for around 7 years, and I was literally forced to leave because the cost of living increased to double after one week in Argentina. The guy removed a measure that the former goverment used to keep the the prices of basic groceries somewhat stable, it was called "Precios Cuidados". A lot of people are already struggling due to the removal of that thing. Proof that neoliberalism formulas have to go away for good.

@Syrzl9231

5 ай бұрын

You do realize that borrowing money to keep public subsidies going is a doom spiral of debt that will never end until there is no more money to borrow? Argentina is already there the IMF is the only institution that will lend to Argentina because their credit worth less then dirt.

@bubba6989

4 ай бұрын

Ahhh price controls..... seldom ever work, if anything its unsustainable bandaid. Let me put it into simple terms: lets say it costs me 50 cents to grow an avocado, but the government limits me to sell it for only 40 cents, they can either A: pay the difference plus a small profit to keep the operation going (btw the government is in deep debt) or B: force me to sell all my product at a loss to where im either out of business or choose to produce something else, causing a further shortage. Its really under most circumstances not sustainable if the government has no money.

We did it bois, Argentina is no more

Please change the president of Brazil shown on the flag. We get rid off that garbage forever, I hope.

@gilsonrogeriolimaoliveira2807

5 ай бұрын

This specific excrement perhaps won't return, but other like him or worse surely will be elected, if not on the next election, in 2030 at the latest. There's no escape from fascism, except for a revolution. Elections are an expensive circus.

@kobemop

5 ай бұрын

@@gilsonrogeriolimaoliveira2807 Correct. Liberal democracies are amenable to the far-right. Revolution or barbarism.

i'm argentinian, and i can say that this country is hopeless

@ANTH0NY.VII.

5 ай бұрын

Sorry dude, hopefully you can leave

@CosmicEternity9665

5 ай бұрын

@@ANTH0NY.VII. nah i'm gonna move down south and create the People's Republic of Patagonia

@Megaghost_

5 ай бұрын

@@CosmicEternity9665 Avisame y me sumo.

@gilsonrogeriolimaoliveira2807

5 ай бұрын

All of South America, comrade. We are at full throttle to become poorer than Africa, thanks to our fifth column politicians.

@no-nx3ip

5 ай бұрын

@@CosmicEternity9665 kaiserreich moment?

Dude literally looks like a Batman villain. I hope the people of Argentina realize what a mistake it is to give these fascists power before it's too late. (If it's not already too late.)

I really appreciate that both Libertarian and right wing labels are used to describe his politics now. The draconian measures and limits on freedoms being imposed ARE NOT libertarian. It just goes to show the smoke screen they are using to push for capitalist ownership and not actually trying to limit government power.

Anyone ever have Ancaps ruin a Vicky 2 playthrough?

@pao5567

5 ай бұрын

Always

@PanzerfaustBR

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRatsintheWalls Vicky 2 is a political-economic simulator in which you, the player, has some agency in adopting laws and expanding your production. However this is limited by your country POPs (population) and their ideology (which is affected by your economic performance, the type of industry, the percentage of shared wealth and so on). These limitations are worsened if ancaps ever come to power. When an ancap revolt succeeds, they install a Bourgeoisie Dictatorship government and you, as the player, cannot alter laws or do anything with respect to the economy. The game "plays" by itself. Usually very badly. And then all you can do is... well... wait for another revolt/revolution in order to be able to effectively play the game once again (or restart the game, because, seriously, even game ancaps are insufferable).

@ahmedrazick4946

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRatsintheWalls gotta rush socialism lol (i founded karl marx and richard engels as the UK) fuk I should see how three is.

So when his policies completely impoverish Argentina, what's next? What's the end game here?

@donHooligan

5 ай бұрын

fascist corporate exploitation.

@99baking

5 ай бұрын

America and it's corporations comes in and buys everything up at a fraction of the real price

@dylandugan76

5 ай бұрын

Another massive IMF loan, selling off entire industries to American corporations at bargain basement prices, and declaring unqualified economic "success" while ordinary Argentinians who disagree are disappeared.

@giu941

5 ай бұрын

literally sell the country to gringos I guess

@dangerousdays2052

5 ай бұрын

This stinks of an IMF hit job.

As a Brit, just take a quick look at what neoliberal ideologues can do to a nation in only 14 years. My sincere hope and best wishes to Argentina. You'll need them.

6:42-6:53 Bro the people behind these decisions are actual supervillains.

@somerandomguy___

5 ай бұрын

What's even scarier is that about half of them genuinely believe they are doing the right thing. Neoliberal economics is such a dumb ideology that it uses false logic among many other things to strip people of their common sense so they'll think crazy things like that if you have no government, "the market will just sort itself out".

although not mentioned here, he is also defunding almost every state apparatus that helped promote theatre, music, cinema and culture as a whole to be more accesible for the population, on the excuse that "there isn´t enough money". So yeah, another loss that comes from this madmans rule

@tylerian4648

5 ай бұрын

That sounds quite reasonable to me.

@HiDefHDMusic

5 ай бұрын

@@tylerian4648sounds like a fascist trying to stifle dissent and make it easier to control the media to me, if your country isn’t funding the arts it’s not a country it’s just a bank and I would strike too 😂

@PivotStryker

4 ай бұрын

@@tylerian4648 because youre redacted

@alex29443

4 ай бұрын

But there actually is no money...

@HiDefHDMusic

4 ай бұрын

@@alex29443 imagine watching the IMF starve people in one of the richest countries on the planet so they can coerce the population into accepting the theft of their own resources and saying something so embarrassingly wrong.

That man is apparently doing a “first 4th world country” speedrun

I'm argentinian and I'm seeing all of my friends who work in different artistic circles sad and helpless, given the measure Milei has done and will continue to do

@baha3alshamari152

5 ай бұрын

Why would people in failed poor countries work in artistic circles to begin with

If you are wondering how he was voted into power consider the country had over 100% inflation rate and had over 40% of the populatity in poverty. In this economic situation the ruling party puts as its presidential candidate the economy minister.

Argentina being in a comedy movie: "You probably want to know how I ended up in THIS situation".

@nathanstruble2177

5 ай бұрын

Freeze frame, record scratch, "Yup, that's me."

@Jkjoannaki

4 ай бұрын

You haven't seen what's going on in greece. The ministry killed hundreds in train "accident", the state covered up the crime, no one who was responsible went to jail, they are now reelected in government and their excuse on TV was "if we said the trains had problems no one would buy a ticket" (hundreds DIED)

Not to mention that the period in the 1950s was a largely agricultural period where the largely traditional agricultural landlord class benefited and the country was completely undeveloped in terms of industry. The nationalization period didn't just lead to more equality, it was the period that built Argentina's industrial capacity massively which the traditional agricultural landlords prevented. Blaming Peronism is just a red herring for the most part. Its IMF debt that ruined Argentina not anything else

@masterchief-yj7yw

5 ай бұрын

The 50s where the only Time in history argentina had any decent industry, we even had companies that produced cars and airplanes in the country. What milei reivindicates were the undemocratic liberal goverments that lasted until the 30s and represented the oligarchy that fixed elections mostly

@alex29443

4 ай бұрын

These companies were generally not globally competitive at all on a level playing field, which is why any opening up to global competition resulted in failure of Argentine companies.

Multiple thoughts in one day I feel like a philosopher

Brace yourself for the wave of 'this wasn't real libertarianism' arguments.

@wertywerrtyson5529

5 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@drewm9903

5 ай бұрын

I actually do agree though, this isn't real libertarianism. The problem is how many self-proclaimed "libertarians" are clever enough to see this act of deceit.

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

5 ай бұрын

Why though? Taxpayers were unable to make their part of the agreement, which is not to let business bankrupt. Obviously, they must pay for it.

There are too many evil people in positions of power in this day and age.

@drewm9903

5 ай бұрын

And the whole world is paying the price for it.

@alecseuslev9054

5 ай бұрын

Evil has won, man.

I diagnose Argentina with a terrible disease, commonly known as "Yeltsinitis."

@Jkjoannaki

4 ай бұрын

Greece is the same and even worse. We have a literal dictatorship and no one sees it

9:33 I’m glad that Americans are switching the term “soccer” for the much more sane and logical “football”

@HiDefHDMusic

5 ай бұрын

Fútbol*

@elvastan

3 ай бұрын

But then what do you call American Football

@Anonymous-gw1vd

3 ай бұрын

@@elvastan we don’t talk about it.

Thank you for posting what you post.

Libertarian paradise just like Haiti. No government.

His politics were no secret before and that is usually the case with ultra right wing candidates and their parties. Sometimes I hope, I will never really understand, how so many people can vote for someone like that. That might be a depressing day. Honestly, what happens in those brains? "Last time I voted for that party, which didn´t really match my needs, so let´s try one that is absolutely and unambiguously against all of my interests and does not even try to hide it this time"?

@JP-fb8ni

5 ай бұрын

How many people turned out to vote, I wonder? Maybe that's the question we should be asking. Would be interesting to find out too.

@aluisious

5 ай бұрын

Propaganda works. People are lazy and stupid, and want to point a finger at the source of their problems like immigrants or communists instead of “you need to unlearn everything you’ve been told and start from scratch in your understanding of history.”

@JP-fb8ni

5 ай бұрын

@@TheTournesoul Here's some eye watering facts for you. In his inauguration speech, Milei mentioned that all shock economic programs were successful except for one in 1959. But let's look at Argentina's history. The military dictatorship in the 1970s, for instance, implemented neoliberal shock therapy which privatised everything and ended price and exchange rate controls, just like Milei is suggesting. But what exactly was the outcome? National debt tripled, poverty increased by 18%, buying power fell by 17%, and 20,000 businesses went bankrupt. And what about the neoliberal policies of 2001 that led to a nationwide protest (known as El Corralito, which left 39 protesters dead)? Or President Macri's economic policies that have actually put Argentina in the current debt and inflation mess? To quote Albert Einstein: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." It seems Milei's approach fits this description perfectly. Milei also said that gradual economic changes need financing, and that the country doesn't have any money. His supporters, who are probably hoping that the austerity measures that he is proposing won't affect them, will however soon realise the truth when they see their roads falling apart and their healthcare system collapsing. Milei's first action in office was also to reduce the number of government ministries from 18 to 8. In December Milei also sacked at least 5000 government employees as well. Lastly, Milei also stated that there's no choice but to cut services and implement shock therapy. But what this means for Argentina's workers is that they will lose their pensions, social security, and other public services they've paid for, all because they have to repay the public debt. Milei in fact blames them for this crisis, even though it's political policies like he is intending to implement that got them into this situation in the first place. So, what Milei proposes, actually, is essentially a more extreme version of the neoliberalism of the past, neoliberalism on steroids in other words. And as history has shown, these policies have brought nothing but misery to the people of Argentina.

@JP-fb8ni

5 ай бұрын

@@TheTournesoul However, shock therapy has never worked. Hence the Einstein quote. The only people who benefit are the rich.

@martinhuhn7813

5 ай бұрын

@@TheTournesoul Well, sure. Very bad things happen in capitalist states, people are mad at the last government. Nobody wants 200% inflation and people look for alternatives and there are no really good ones around, which seem likely to win. Propaganda does its work and people fail to identify the least terrible option. But they pick one, which does not take away the past inflation but takes away the workers incomes, messes up everything else and the programme of whom was quite clearly communicated before?! What does a party, a candidate have to say, NOT to be elected? Is "I will feed your children to my dogs and force all of you into marriage with my ugly and dementia ridden grandmother and order the military to burn down your houses and have you all starve, whilst eating fried chicken in front of your noses - but imagine how great you will feel by comparison, if you by chance are none of the victims" enough? I don´t get, how it is possible, that there is practically no limit for what majorities can vote for - and not only in Argentina.

i tried to explain to my coworker the error in voting for that thing, it was like talking to random tiktok posts. at the end the work of social organisations help create a new middle class that betrayed the country to fascism. brats justifying state terrorism because they think they can get an iphone if everithing else goes to shit.

@drewm9903

5 ай бұрын

Damn, they are dumb brats if they actually believe that. I am already wondering what on Earth would I do once everything goes to complete shit.

@silkozmic9619

5 ай бұрын

My mother-in-law voted for this maniac because a WhatsApp audio told her "terrible things about Massa" 🙄

@drewm9903

4 ай бұрын

@@silkozmic9619 In her defense, Argentina couldn't bring a good political candidate to challenge this WEF psycho.

@matiastimm

4 ай бұрын

I also tend to refer to Milei as "that thing". I am glad I am not the only one.

Praying for Argentina

I'm looking forward to seeing how Milei's ideas just don't work, the same way that they haven't worked anywhere else

@peregrintuk6197

5 ай бұрын

They are already not working because he did almost the opposite of what he claim in the campaign. All the actions taken aimed to destroy the middle class stealen their savings, increasing taxes and taking out subsidies. All the big companies are getting a massive wealth transfer from working class to their pockets and here we have an army of idiots doing "mental gimnastics" to justify all the decisions. Meanwhile, they attack domestic groups pointing them as the "cause of the problems and deficit", you can mention, public education, pension and retirements system, cultural subsidies, etc-

I hope there’s a follow-up on how the protest goes! Best of luck to the workers of Argentina ✊

Seeking an "intervention" from the IMF is like getting a car title loan to pay your rent.

Very informative and in-depth video, I love these longer video's that perhaps don't fit as well into the Second Thought style.

I did not expect to see a politician cosplaying, whoa

As I said before, crazy how every "libertarian" is a fascist once they get even the slightest amount of power.

Seriously though, just look at Milei's face at the video thumbnail. He looks like a supervillain and acts like one, too. Why do people keep electing comically, cartoonishly evil, deranged-looking villains into office?

This was incredibly informative, thank you!

@GENCHIKDAKOOLBOI

3 ай бұрын

This is incredibly stupid. Milei raise Argentina's economics.

He looks like he could be portrayed by a coked-up Jason Bateman.

Is this a foreshadowing of things to come in the US?

Capitalist nation: "Capitalism isn't working, let's do more capitalism!"

Argentinian here. I love your content on Second thought, never thought i'd see you covering my country. Thank you.

This guy might get couped. I don't think they will end up with a GOOD government to replace him, but surely every Argentinian colonel is getting those vibes that the popular support is just like RIGHT THERE. It would be so easy, like picking up a coin.

@CC3GROUNDZERO

5 ай бұрын

It would be nice to see Milei face the squad.

@ewchi-m4n012

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, argentina will remain doomed forever lmao

@akai4942

5 ай бұрын

The military supports him. The previous government defunded the military, and milei gave them some money back.

@ewchi-m4n012

5 ай бұрын

@@akai4942 si, hay milei para rato, les duelan a los zurdos, porque ya no van a seguir subsistiendo del dinero del qie trabaja

@matiastimm

4 ай бұрын

@@akai4942 Indeed. Among other things, he's ordered the purchase of fighter planes. I am sure the starving children of El Chaco he always mentions will feel much better now.

I'm Argentinian and hated Milei for years. Some time ago Milei being the president was a joke so absurd that no one would think of it. The thing that hurts me the most is the destruction of science and education. All national universities anounced that with the budget that Milei gave them they won't be able to work after april. I just want to study maths and don't have to worry about my university or the whole field I wanna work on being destroyed.

Thanks for the video!

argentina would be a hilarious circus if it weren't tragic for the people

Hola. Yo no conozco ningún KZreadr ni podcast argentino. (Y no me gusta Clarín para nada, gracias.) Con el asunto de todo esto, es critical estar informado - con otros izquierdos, por supuesto. Alguien puede recomendarme sus favoritos o "los mejores"? Puedo entender si hablan español o inglés. Muchísimas gracias. (No he usado Google Translate ni nada. Lo siento que no escribe tan bien.)

@Megaghost_

5 ай бұрын

Te puedo recomendar 2 canales de YT: "El Fundido" y "Café Millennial". Ahora El Fundido está haciendo unos podcasts semanales, pero en general el canal se enfoca en divulgar marxismo. Por otro lado, Café Millennial es una colaboración entre 2 youtubers (Pablo Borda y Café Kyoto, chequea esos canales de paso) que por el momento están de vacaciones, supongo que en marzo retoman el espacio.

@mookinbabysealfurmittens

5 ай бұрын

@@Megaghost_ Voy a chequear ésos canales ahora! Muchísimas gracias! :)

@matiastimm

4 ай бұрын

@@mookinbabysealfurmittens Te recomiendo también "Mate" (lo encontrás como @somosmatear).

@matiastimm

4 ай бұрын

Y en inglés, para entender todo esto, es muy recomendable "The Alt-Right Playbook". Es una serie larga de videos que te explica los mecanismos que la derecha usa para radicalizar a la gente y para tomar el poder (lo que vimos pasar acá con el auge de los liberotarios y el increíble voto a Milei).

As an argentinian I'm happy someone who's not Argentinian is finally telling the story exactly as it is, as the disaster it is.

The "only" mistake I see in this video is that is not "tens of thousands" is "30.000" the number has political, metaphorical and spiritual meaning. "30000 compañeros desaparecidos, presentes! Ahora y siempre!"

You guys are amazing

Business is a Pathology.

same way Ukraine did...

For the algorithm.

Oh my god. He's French. That explains everything.

@TheForeignersNetwork

5 ай бұрын

He's actually not French, I have no idea where they got that information. His father is of Italian descent and his mother is of Croatian descent.

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

5 ай бұрын

It's FRINGE And Red Flood French politicians are better.

@genuscorvid

Ай бұрын

@@TheForeignersNetwork The word was "fringe", not French.

You should explain the relationship between height and economic growth, as it really isn't ovbious at first.

@1fareast14

5 ай бұрын

malnutrition stunts growth

@covfefe1787

Ай бұрын

its a fallacy Corrolation does not equal causation. The Dutch are taller than the Germans yet the Germans are wealtheir than the Dutch. The Swiss are shorter than the Dutch and yet the Swiss are shorter. Hieght is determined by Genetics not wealth. only in Africa and North Korea would that comparison would work and its a terrible meaningless comparison at that.

If his decree and law proposal are approved Argentina will be forever condemned to poverty and subjugation. The situation was already quite bad, but this is the final nail in the coffin. Reversing the damage would take years if not decades, and a lot of struggle too.

Great explanation!

tbf, Milei did say it was gonna get worse if he was elected, before it get's better. The "bitter pill" idea. Also "self-styled economist"? No, he can say he's an economist (not that that should impress anyone)

I have a theory, Milei is actually a really well read marxist accelerationist, like the best in existance, because you can't actually be this bad without doing it on purpose.

@atomicexistentialism8428

5 ай бұрын

Based

Hopefully people realize how terrible these libertarian ideas are. In less than two months of government, prices gone up and buying basic things is getting more and more expensive (even some products like milk from the same brand are 2 times the price of december)... if you add the inflation we had the past years, the situation is tough... As always, good video 👍 I realize this channel researches before making this content

@drewm9903

5 ай бұрын

Like I said, I don't wanna denigrate libertarians but some handful of libertarians prove to be useful idiots for global elites to just dismantle existing governing systems (regardless if you like them or hate them) so they can roll in a global one of neoliberal austerity in place.

@sulimanthemagnificent4893

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but that's just the real prices (bar price controls) showing themselves. And one does not recover from a catastrophic economic fireball quickly, look at the post world war one depression (By far the largest economic contraction in United States history), it was over in 18 months after sane management (without Milei's dictatorial powers), the bulk of it amounted to fiscal policy (Argentina's biggest problem) funnily enough. We'll see if his ideas function in the modern world though (one without a gold back currency and large, effectively state sponsored corporate entities vying for control over economic resources of foreign nations).

@matiastimm

4 ай бұрын

@@sulimanthemagnificent4893, problem is, if we consider European prices "real", Argentinian salaries should also be "real", which they aren't, and won't be if he manages to slash labor laws as he wishes to do.

They get what they've voted for. Just like we get what we vote for here. It's all about voter quality. Nowadays at an all-time low.

Thanks JT

Im not surprised that they elected Mille, i am surprised how fast he tanked their econonmy.

@AwesomeHairo

4 ай бұрын

Milei literally said things will get worse before it gets better. That's what shock therapy is.

Don’t worry. It gets worse before it gets worse.

If you haven't seen the recent drama "Argentina 1985", it's fantastic and inspiring

@matiastimm

4 ай бұрын

I hope Milei (and Macri, and Caputo, and so many others) get imprisoned as well, eventually. That Cavallo is not in jail is a terrible injustice.

Lets goo thank you

i heard someone say argentina will become the worlds first 4th world country and i havent stopped thinking about it

@tonttu7979

5 ай бұрын

I think Libya might have gotten there first post-Gaddafi

@TheForeignersNetwork

5 ай бұрын

Argentina is not going to become a fourth world country, for god's sake. Fourth world countries consist of hunter gatherers and subsistence farmers... Venezuela is closer to that than Argentina is 🙄

I hope that Brazilians don't follow suit and do the same. Brazil could be the country to lead Latin America (If US.A stopped intervening with them, ofc) and Lula is gr8! Edit: typo

@gilsonrogeriolimaoliveira2807

5 ай бұрын

We did it before the argentinians. Thankfully, Brazil is too big to fail, but we almost got there.

@covfefe1787

Ай бұрын

Lula is corrupt and is the most hated polictican in Brazil the only reason he was liked was because of the Oil Boom and his downfall was his administartion mismanagement of PETROBRAS

Thank you ❤

Is there somewhere where I could find your sources/reas more?

@AwesomeHairo

4 ай бұрын

There are none. He makes them up. For example, the protesters were literally blocking roads, so Milei's government had to step in.