"We can just ignore the unions in Denmark." As someone living in Denmark, yeah, no.

@HellsingRuler

Жыл бұрын

Walmart also tried that in Germany

@NocturnalPyro

Жыл бұрын

The unions are the reason why a minimal wage is redundant in Denmark, cause everyone gets a living wage regardless of where they work.

@Rex1987

Жыл бұрын

@@NocturnalPyro yes, and no. It might have been like that in the past, but the number of companies with an agreement about wages and working hours with a union is going down. This is especially true for restaurants, bars, hotels and fast food.

@NocturnalPyro

Жыл бұрын

@@Rex1987 hmm

As our famous poet PIET HEIN wrote: Denmark seen from foreign land Looks but like a grain of sand. Denmark as we Danes conceive it Is so big you won't believe it. Why not let us compromise About Denmark's proper size? Which will truly please us all Since it's greater than it's small.

@williamjones4716

Жыл бұрын

I once had a conversation with an American ambassador on this point, we both agreed that the chief problem with Danes is they have no mountains. Each day a Dane awakes to the thought that there is nothing bigger and more permanent than himself.

@johndododoe1411

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't it Mr. Hein who designed a special globe where (main) Denmark was an entire hemisphere and the rest was shrunk down to fit?

also a fun fact. When McD arrived in Denmark with their food. The food and health authorities had a look at the buns they wanted to serve, and after tests could not classify them as bread under Danish law, but instead had to classify them as cake due to its sugar content. So when McD sold a "burger" it was not a burger, but meat in a cake, according to the authorities.

@tranquilthoughts7233

10 ай бұрын

Same thing happened to mc Donalds and Subway when they came to germany. Subway actually had to change their bread recipe for their business in germany.

So McDonalds claimed it was unfair for them to have to not treat their Danish employees like dirt when they had set a precedent by doing so in 20 odd other countries?

@rickybuhl3176

2 жыл бұрын

Think RyanAir tried something similar..

@Enlighter

2 жыл бұрын

"a principled stand" indeed...

@larsjensen2158

Жыл бұрын

@@rickybuhl3176 And failed :)

@rickybuhl3176

Жыл бұрын

@@larsjensen2158 satisfying, isn't it!? ;)

I had forgotten all about that strike. It's an extremely well-told story you've made here. I just hope the Americans will use it to achieve the same as us in Denmark.

@andersjjensen

2 жыл бұрын

The US need to reboot their entire labour union structure. There's a long protracted history of the mafia infiltrating unions that needs a decisively clean cut-and-start-over. Many workers in the US view them with great scepticism and the employers have managed to play that to their advantage. For this reason many Americans chose "alone I'm stronger" over "together we're stronger", which, obviously, makes it easier to implement a dog-eat-dog mentality toward obtaining and maintaining a job.

@ninatouchdown2500

2 жыл бұрын

Det var sagen mod Ryanair for et par år siden. De troede, at de kunne ansætte deres ansatte i Danmark på irske vilkår, fordi de har hovedsæde i Irland. Men det kunne de ikke, heldigvis.

@Nico6th

2 жыл бұрын

No chance. They can't even agree on some kind of gun control after a few dozen school shootings. No way will they band together to go on strike against their most popular fast-food chain

@Nalhirrim

2 жыл бұрын

The Americans who need to hear this will never listen to this. They'll say it's communist propaganda. America is a lost cause.

@Lavabug

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately in America, a good amount people look down on low wage service workers and mock them for asking for better working conditions. There is little solidarity with or respect for unskilled workers thanks to decades of corporate anti-union propaganda, it is very frustrating. It will take a long time and a lot of effort to change this culture.

It’s not like business like MC Donals doesn’t make money by paying the workers, it’s pure greed when they don’t

@MTMF.london

Жыл бұрын

Their food is rubbish and inedible too - at least the ones in the US and UK.

@stagger5863

Жыл бұрын

@@MTMF.london MC Donals are rubbish everywhere, it’s the same shitty (food) no matter where in the world you go, that’s a part of there concept, that where just a example

Bruh that intro was legit fire.

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😂 we had a lot of fun coming up with it haha

And this is a huge reason why Danes are happiest people on the planet. They are and treat each other like fellow human beings. The almighty dollar/krona are not more important than people.

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

So true 🇩🇰🙌🏼😃

@mikeyb2932

2 жыл бұрын

@@zorro3654 I am so tired of people not realising that in the context of that report 'Happiness' is used to mean both satisfied, content and happy. Also the least unhappy person is the most happy person, whether they are full of joy or not. Regarding the antidepressants - I think a lot of people are happy that they can afford those here. The study you are getting your info from is probably the OECD one, which is referred to on Wikipedia. Note that in the study Denmark is one of the countries where the data include 'drugs dispensed in hospitals', 'non-reimbursed drugs' and 'over-the-counter drugs' where really a lot of the other countries do not include all of those data points and many of them none of those data points. Also note that OECD added that IF the United States Had been included in these reviews, the US would have the highest or second-highest rate. Many other countries are not included in those reviews - probably because of insufficient ability to reliably report on the actual usage.

@annestovgaard681

2 жыл бұрын

@@zorro3654 Because I don´t smile on the street, doesen´t mean Im not "happy". I think it should be called the "not unhappy or not afraid" survey. Its just a word ;-) I am so grateful to live in Denmark, we have so many possibilities and support. If it wasen´t for that support, I would be dead.

@Galantus1964

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeyb2932 So absolutely true, it's all of the above that makes the total sum = happy, content and so on ... it has nothing to do with anti depressive use,

@lameduck3105

2 жыл бұрын

@@zorro3654 Those surveys should be read as "content with life" instead of being happy. And sure we do consume a lot of anti-depressants here. But that also includes vitamine D and is a consequence of living so far up north where the sun doesn't shine much. If you look at suicide statistics, you'll find that Greenland is by far the most suicidal people on the planet. And I do believe that is in part due to the climate up there.

An added bonus of not having a minimum wage, but strong unions instead is that wage (and promising to raise minimum wages) ISN'T politicized and used as a political bargaining chip.

@bzdtemp

Жыл бұрын

Except that isn't always so. One example is how the government, which is supposed to stay out what unions and employer org. agree upon, steps in and make a law to stop a strike. They've done so with teachers and nurses, not to mention our current statsminister(prime minister) pretty much promised the nurses more pay during the last elections.

@Rex1987

Жыл бұрын

...except it pretty much is - specially for all workers that work in the public sector. The employer for all public workers is in the end the minister of finance. And there is always a great debate on the wages and working contions for nurses or teachers for instance. The "danish" model or the system of having collective bargin agreements is really a system made for the private sector. In the private sector is easier to seperate negotiations about wages and working hours from the polictians, and letting the unions and the empolyer decide on their own. Norway have a system where wages for public sector workers are managed by a indepetant body that the current goverment can intervene in the same way as they can in Denmark. I wish we did more of that in Denmark.

You just don´t mess with (Den Danske Model) "the danish Model" - Funny to hear the story of McD (yes I am danish)

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a reason why it works 😃🇩🇰🙌🏼

@ninatouchdown2500

2 жыл бұрын

Ja, så kunne de lære det!

@tobimobiv1

2 жыл бұрын

@Liberalism is anti-Tartarian west Burger King burgers is like eating a sponge. But none of the chains mentioned (McD included) have superior burgers.

@pleasedontkillme1185

Жыл бұрын

​@Anti-Zoonotic Senate Bill TwoFourNine Exodus 22 19 I didn't know it takes banning a company to be a brave people.

One of my favorite videos of yours! Would love to see more of these about the dynamics in the Danish labor movement, as I'm about to move there and hope to get plugged into that sphere (as I have been active in the workers' movement in the US for a long time now).

@brandonmadsen9591

2 жыл бұрын

(Despite the last name, I am from the US, but my ancestors from 200 years ago are Danish 😅)

@mariahareskov180

2 жыл бұрын

Getting into a union is easy enough. :) If there are an area specific one (like metal workers union or teachers union) I'd suggest going for that, because it will be focused on what you are doing rather than one of the generic ones.

@pirakoXX

2 жыл бұрын

I do hope you'll come here and you'll feel welcome (y) And I'm sure you can learn a lot of very useful things from watching these 2 amazing guys' very informative videos as a huge help to ease your first months here, and not give up before we're convinced you why you should stay here. :D As a Dane, I really like to watch well-made videos like Robe Trotting's, as they not only teach foreigners about my country, but also open Danes' eyes to things we should be more aware of and improve. We're not taught our country is the best country in the world, not at all. (Even we are in so many ways .... sorry, couldn't help it! lol) But we're taught a lot about how we got to where we are now; like how labor unions began and evolved, the big strikes, women's rights to vote, etc, and often comparing these things with historical facts from other countries in our schools. To learn things didn't just improve my accident for workers, etc. but they came after many people had worked together and foght hard for it. And, of course, we're also "taught" facts and less factual things about foreign countries, like the USA, from movies, comedy shows, etc. And most Danes have a passport and travel to foreign countries at least once a year, some less and more 2-3 times a year, and have their own opinion of other cultures around the world based on their own experiences. Wish you all the best, and sadly, things are not looking good in the USA right now, and now might be a really good time to leave and see other ways of doing things .... and perhaps one day go back and help get the USA back into the 21st century, or work from here! 👍 Wish you all the best, Brandon!

Your videos are getting better and better with your great sense of humor

Because heaven forbid a company should pay its staff enough to actually live on……

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s nice that you can’t really get away with massive exploitation by corporate interests in Denmark.

@jameswalker68

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobeTrotting It’s actually quite heartening. We probably sit somewhere between Denmark and the US here in Australia - but I really think the world could take a huge lesson from Denmark. You can treat your workers like actual humans, and still be profitable. Who would have thought!

@andersjjensen

2 жыл бұрын

This also has the fortunate side effect that in Denmark junk food is convenience food. In the US it is more often more expensive to cook a decent meal than it is to get fast food.... I'd hate for that to happen here.

@drdewott9154

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobeTrotting Eh that still depends, there are still very massive loopholes on that front in Denmark, particularly with foreign migrant workers who 9/10 times aren't unionised and as such have very little power in this game and are often treated horribly and inhumanely. Heck I've seen it first hand, I haven't seen my dad in over a decade but he did run a painting business of which over half the workers were foreigners being exploited by him at wages equivalent to 9 dollars an hour. We also see it a ton in the construction, electrician and plumbing industries, as well as stuff like food deliveries. Wolt especially is pretty infamous for their low unlivable wages.

@MTMF.london

Жыл бұрын

@@drdewott9154 All over the world there are always those who exploit other people if they can get away with it. But in America, the government is in cahoots with big business and corporations to screw the ordinary people.

Again a great video from you guys

Awesome video!💕💕

I just love the beginning of the story with the music and your impersonation lol. So well done. Huge fan of yours.

@RobeTrotting

Жыл бұрын

🤩 Thank you so much!

Suggestion for a video: What about a video about Danish democracy and politics and how different it is compared to the US? election posters everywhere, 13 different parties, youth politics, a more casual and "agree to disagree" approach to debating, municipal elections and governance and much more. If you need help or inspiration, I would love to assist! I have been active in Danish politics since I was 12 years old and first joined a youth party. I have worked on elections for over 16 years and also candidated for municipal election myself.

@annestovgaard681

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I think it makes a huge difference, in the freedom we have an feel, there is something for everyone :-) And its not us aginst them (only 2 choices) so the debate is better, i think.

Oh, I knew this story! (It was briefly touched on when my class on modern state history arrived at unionisation and globalisation) Lovely callback. I hope this could work out in todays society as well. Also I have come to realise that I live for Mike's wardrobe. The flower pattern shirt edges are on point.

Your video is very nuanced. Thank you.

You two are a hoot! That opening was too funny. Why am I not surprised about MickeyD’s labor practices? 🙄

Best intro in ages 🤘

You guys are just so cool ❤️🥰💕🌻 And I wish that all people stood together the way that Danish people do ❤️

Another thing that really put McD in the "trash" was that they sued a small hotdog stand, that was named "Allans". When McD build a restaurant across the Street, he named it McAllans. McD won the legal dispute but also All godwill . They ended Up bying him a new hotdog stand nearby.

@DNA350ppm

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Mac D lost all good will!? Mac D had no sense for Danish humor - unforgiveble to this day, I think. Only tourist eat there, I guess!

@organfairy

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to mention that case. It was quite amusing.

Great summation 😊

@RobeTrotting

5 ай бұрын

Thank you 😊

Great video thanks. Also McDonalds has been "forced" by consumer demands to improve the quality of meat products over the years, which is why the burgers are different here compared to the US. Maybe there is a story in that.

i think u had fun doing this one... have u consittered looking into the uber and ryan air cases too?

I love this story :-) When I comment on other issues with americans, I tell them to stand together, and the power of the people, is so much stronger than they think. And give them a linc to the McD. story :-)

Really interesting history, here. Love the opening, too... 🎸. But, watching two seconds of the little tracks taking McDonald's orders around the store? Me: 🤩🤩🤩

I have always had a hard time explaining especially people from the USA and the UK how the labor market works in Denmark V US, UK. But this is really good thank you for it, two Americans living in Denmark are of course best to explain it :)

that opening rocked!! fab:)

Nice video)))))

What an intro!! Just out of curiousness: Are you organized in a union?

This is the model in all nordic countries. It is sometimes called the nordic model. It's not the parlament going into details making laws on everything on the work market. They are making the broad laws, and the details are in collective agreements between the branch workers union and the employers branch organisation. Then there are also local agreements for just one emplyer and its employees. And in the end there are individual agreements when you get employed. Those are more common in white collar jobs. But whatever you do, dont mess with the model. If some foreign company starts up and say: This is not law. We do as we please. They are in trouble!

You guys should make a video about how unions came to be in Denmark. I promise you it's a super fascinating story with lots of drama!

One time some contruction workers tipped over a wall near a McDonalds restaurant, so that debris fell into the restaurant. And obviously nobody wanted to clean up the mess.

IMHO that automation would have happened anyway. I've seen bosses attempt to enforce it everywhere, no matter the starting point.

Ooooh love the “Hej hej” in the end!!! Its so Danish and it suits you so Well. But i also love that you are americans🧡🧡🧡

yo, that intro was 🔥🔥🔥

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! This was a fun one to make haha

Like Toy'sRus in Sweden! They got a huge surprise when they couldn't hire staff without the union. They had to give in! 😊

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, we heard about this from comments and now we want to know more about it - maybe for another video! 😊

@SteamboatW

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobeTrotting I used to knew people involved... It all settled down when the company changed leadership in Sweden to someone who had had business dealings in Scandinavia. I'll see if I can find a decent article about it.

@brandonmadsen9591

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobeTrotting Yes, more labor movement videos please! 😊🙏

awesome intro

You don't mess with the Danish model. The thing is that, if you try to undermine the unions, other people get afraid that if one company can get away with it, their own employer could be next. As you say, we don't have a legal minimum wage... But you'll end up in quite some trouble if you're not ready to play ball with our unions. Perhaps McD should have paid someone for advice before even trying this stunt. On the other hand they're quite big today, so it wasn't a complete defeat... They had perhaps just misunderstood why we don't need a minimum wage. If you want another topic to have a bit of fun with, choose tipping, if you haven't done it already... So, "getting hired" as a restaurant waiter or taxi driver is basically just getting permission to do a job for tips? It's not high paid jobs in DK either, but at least you know you'll get some money each month.

@dennisbohman3848

2 жыл бұрын

or .se, as we were the first to learn em about the union :)

@BenjaminVestergaard

2 жыл бұрын

@@dennisbohman3848 in general the Nordic countries are a nightmare to the American republican ideas. Look up Vestager and what's been going on with the US giants in EU. And she's considered to be in the center politically in Denmark. Imagine if one we consider far-left took that position and had the same thoroughness. 😆

@theposhdinosaur7276

2 жыл бұрын

But we shouldn't get too complacent. Always remember to secretly bully those who join yellow unions, the bastards. (For the uninitiated, a union that has no contract with your employer. If 50% or more workers follow such a union, the employer can suspend their contract with the actual union and make a new one with another union, fucking over the workers.)

The automation seen in, not just McDonalds but all over Danish industri due indeed lead to less workers needed. But this is never a problem, assuming that the added surplus created by added productivity is shared and not simply accumulated by the top. Generally increasing productivity in a society is always good. At least if it do not simply lead to increases in inequality. The reason is fairly simple, as the now redundant workers can create societal value some other place and thereby increase total spending. Automatization is often seen as something scary. But it only depends on how it is done or more correctly, how the benefits created from it is distributed. Great vid btw

@mumimor

2 жыл бұрын

Came in to write what you wrote, but you already did it much better. A high level of productivity is what keeps Denmark going. In spite of high wages, Denmark has a lot of production, hi-tech, furniture and agriculture. And most of it is very profitable (agriculture needs an overhaul, but that is another story).

The Labour Court has ruled, that if you operate in Denmark, you must adhere to Danish wages and terms of work. Take notes if you watch this video, Jeff Bezos.

@kaindestuto2053

2 жыл бұрын

We got amazon here as well, and they too are under our union laws well

@kasper7194

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaindestuto2053 Amazon isn't established in Denmark.

@kaindestuto2053

2 жыл бұрын

@@kasper7194 amazon opened up their webservices in 2017 and are building up for a launch of their delivery services in 2022. Why not earlier, i am not aware of, might be due ro rona

@thomasbarchen

2 жыл бұрын

Don't be messing with poor 'ol Jeff "God" Bezos. He is just trying to make an honest billions whilst the employees every in and out breath is watched over by technology. Very fulfilling! Lol

@johndododoe1411

Жыл бұрын

​@@kaindestuto20532022 is over and they still have no visible operations in Denmark except some advertising,

Wow that opening bit was amazing.

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks Frank. It was fun to put together 😃

1) Guys, did you sing the intro.? (Love the Guns 'N' Roses tribute, by the way.) 2) Micky-D's has always gotten a bad rap in the US, as being merely a down-market eatery for down-market folks. It is NOT. I know of people from higher social classes (if you will) who ADORE this place. I do! 3) Strikes, like demonstrations and protests, can be most effective. 4) Good for the Strikers! Baaad idea to cross (mess with) Denmark and the Danish workers' union!

Yelling, pleading, begging or bartering with large corporations doesn't work. Making them unable to do business does, however, work very well.

I forget the year, it was 1987 or 1989, I went to the McD's in Copenhagen. My Danish friends though I would like it. One of my Danish friends was not very happy about going, but went along in the end. I had no idea about it's history in Denmark at the time. I don't think it was about me, but one Dane getting the other one to go, when they really didn't want to.

@williamjones4716

Жыл бұрын

We had no McDs in Nordjylland back then, but we did have a Burger King in Aalborg. As I recall the nearest McDs back then was in Aarhus.

OMG - the guy in the picture handing out leaflets (7:35) is my dad 🤣

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

No way!!!!! 😮 That is so cool!!!

What a hoot it would be if Walmart tried to enter the Danish market.

@johndododoe1411

2 жыл бұрын

Their non-entry may be due to the heavy competition from other chains like Foetex, Kvickly, Aldi, Lidl etc. Those chains all have a Walmart-like business model, huge market share and the coffers to fight through a trade war with yet another foreign chain trying to set up shops.

@ninatouchdown2500

2 жыл бұрын

Or Amazon. I would love to see Jeff Bezos' reaction when he fnds out that he has to follow our conditions for employees.

@johndododoe1411

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninatouchdown2500 Amazon treats Denmark as a suburb of Sweden and Frankfurt. All orders are handled through those cities.

@larsrons7937

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninatouchdown2500 Jeff Bezos? You mean Lex Luther?

@mumimor

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninatouchdown2500 I have been in the book business once, and as I understood it then, the very reason Amazon doesn't have warehouses in Denmark is that they don't want to deal with Danish unions.

People also tend to forget that it is also very much in the interest of the labour unions, that the companies are making a profit. Closed businesses has no employees. So the agreements has to be satisfactory to both the unions and the employee organisations. It is not unusual for unions to accept temporary reductions in pay if the company in question is in a crisis of some sort, fully expecting to be rewarded when things are going better. Again a closed business is not employing anyone.

Thank you for reminding us - I had nearly forgotten about this conflict, and I am even Danish 😂

The Danish system is made not only to the benefit of the workers, but just as much to the benefit of the employers. I'm a "tillidsmand" (don't know the English word) and my main obligation is to make sure that work continues without interuptions and without any party (including the workers I represent) breaking any agreements. That's why you'll often see that illegal strikes are NOT supported by the TR of a company, we're actually only allowed to support legal measures. The secret purpose of the Danish system is for the workers and employers of a certain field to AVOID getting the politicians involved. If we can't solve it ourselves, that's when we get laws that often are square pegs in round holes... If there's ever one Danish idea the world should adopt it's this one: Empower the unions and employer organizations to settle worker disputes without the involvement of the government, because both parties have vested interests in keeping things smooth. I know this requires a level of trust that is often not present in other countries, but neither was it here in Denmark originally. People died for this system to get established. And when we finally got our system established (1899 "septemberforliget") our workers only endured because workers all across the work helped out, workers in New York collected money to help with the fight. Sadly we never got to help them back...

@tossedburrito9028

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a shop steward.

@Nygaard2

2 жыл бұрын

@@tossedburrito9028 Thanks, strangely enough I've never heard the term... :)

@mikeyb2932

2 жыл бұрын

Union representative, union steward or as already mentioned shop steward. At least I think all of those can be used.

@SteamboatW

2 жыл бұрын

I think it could also be called a "union rep(resentative)" or "ombudsman" in English.

@mikeyb2932

2 жыл бұрын

@@SteamboatW not ombudsman. An ombudsman is someone coming from outside the company or organisation, looking into complaints. Very much like the ombudsmand that we have in Scandinavia (seems to have originated from Sweden).

What they did to McDonald they did to all other employers around the year 1900, resulting in the "master contract" that controls the entire system of labor unions and Employer unions, including the schedule for contract renegotiations and the minimum fair warning before strikes and boycotts. It even established a special court to settle disputes, with the ability to fine workers and employers that strike out of turn.

they gained a lot as well...I was a consultant on the building of the Patient Ronald McDonald house...at Rigshospitalet...you should investigate how the Hospital changed the whole concept of the Ronald McDonald house, and how they tried to mess with the danish health board...find an insider...lol...great video

The welcome to the jungle intro was great hahaha, love me some guns n roses!

McDonnald popularly called "Den gule måge"= "The Yellow Seagull"

@RobeTrotting

11 ай бұрын

😂

Love your videos... Unrelated extra Trivia: Someone surely correct me if I get it wrong.. The first McDonlad's (in DK) to have a drive-thru was in Nyborg -- in the early 2000s ... 2003?

@RobeTrotting

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, and thanks for watching! I think we did hear that before, so you’re probably right 😊

That is great team work from the citizens! I love it!

That opening was the best 😂😂 watched it twice 😍

Derek, your hair looks super cute 😍!

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😅

That singing voice in the start, is that the guy behind Wham Bam Teslacam? 😅

Just becos i am curious. d: Where/how the hell you get the intro song? Did you get it made for the purpose or how? Anyhow it is pretty neet and i like the use of it. :D

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it! We saw a guy on Fiverr who made 80s rock parodies out of headlines/events and thought it sounded like a cool thing to incorporate into a video. We just had to wait until it made sense and this one seemed perfect since it was an 80s story 😊🇩🇰

@wunderstrudel

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobeTrotting Haha i think it is genius. Keep it up! ^^

Another bloody nose for McDonalds trying to mess with danes was when the hot dog seller Allan Pedersen from Silkeborg had named his vehicle stand (pølsevogn) "McAllan". After 3 years of litigation, McDonalds lost the case in the Danish supreme court, and had to pay Allan compensation. Not a huge amount of money, a lot less than they used on their lawyers. During the litigation the hot dog seller changed name to "Mac Allan", just to stick it to McDonalds. He did not get rich (gave up the hot dog business), but he did kick the a** of McDonalds. Yeah, mixed metaphors - or not, that may be where they have their nose :-D

@dsludge8217

2 жыл бұрын

Considering the taste of their burgers...

Bonus knowledge. Took way longer to make mcdonalds pay taxes. After 26 years in 2007, they were finally forced to pay taxes in Denmark.

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Now way - we’ll have to dig into that a little more, could be a nice follow up! Thanks 😊🇩🇰🙌🏼

@torunnowe8835

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobeTrotting , yes please do, I would love to hear about that!

@b.v.nielsen8714

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, it was NOT only McD. Many Multinational companies used the same loophole in our tax system. (R.I.P. Mogens)

@Bonde7280

Жыл бұрын

@@b.v.nielsen8714 And the amount we talk about is far less than people would think. Its not like all mc d's around Denmark did not pay taxes. The money in question was what the restaurants paid and still pays Mc Donalds to be a part of the franchise.

@b.v.nielsen8714

Жыл бұрын

@@Bonde7280 I don't remember much about it, other than the public were very upset about the multinationals, (not just McD) didn't pay tax, like danish companies. As I recall, it was something about a loophole in our taxation system, allowing them to move profit from the danish branch to their homeland, claiming they pay their taxes there. I may not be 100% accurate in this. If I remember it right, it was a vast amount of money every year. I guess that in 2007, as you mentioned, a plug was put in that hole.

Intro and overall editing was great, you guys get a new editor or just got a lot better? Nice singing in the intro btw

@voiceman2612

2 жыл бұрын

I agree!!!

and this is why my son was 8 before he set foot in McDonalds the first time

AWESOME SONG.. :D D: D

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

We have been waiting for the right video to try this haha - it was a lot of fun to do.

We've also taken down RyanAir, Uber, and Dominos 😂 Dominos is a WHOLE other story though.

Denmark made Uber walk away from the country entirely.

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that was right when we moved here. Uber does seem out of place in a country that invests so heavily in public transport besides the gross labor practices.

Ha ha, husker det; Den Røde Pølse vandt over Bic Mac 😋

Is that song performed by the guy with the Whaam Bam Teslacam channel??

@RobeTrotting

Жыл бұрын

Nej, we found a seller on Fiverr who makes parody songs to news headline. Best $20 we ever spent on our channel haha.

@RuneJrgensen

Жыл бұрын

@@RobeTrotting damn, sounds just like him.

Who's the awesome singer in the intro? :o

I worked at McDonalds in Odense from 1988 till 1993. I was just a teenager and your story forget that not all adult union fighters were so nice to us teenagers who worked there. I remember a riot one Sunday afternoon - I think DSU had a meeting in Odense and they decided to come in as an happening - they were drunk - spitting and said a lot of nasty stuff to us. They told me that I was underpaid and a lot of BS. I had a higher paid that those guys hired at Burger King who was unionized. We had some other stuff that was cut when McDonalds made the union agreement. I have nothing against unions, but HORESTA was not nice to kids having there first job! I remember asking those drunk union fighters what my underpaid salary was and no of them knew what I was paid! HORESTA has nothing to be proud of! BTW It took me 3 hours to get there stickers off - they put them all over the place - including me! I WAS A KID - 16 YEARS OLD!

Correction: this is not labour laws. To my knowledge we barely have labour laws in Denmark. These agreements are made "voluntarily". Unions will lockout non union business just like you described. But it is not law. Great content!

@realitymatters8720

2 жыл бұрын

You would be wrong. We have loads of labour laws, securing basic rights, after them come whatever can be negotiated, wich is the smaller part, but the part that makes us fairly well payed etc.

@emillundqvist8126

2 жыл бұрын

@@realitymatters8720 Nah, you'd be wrong. Labour laws are mostly 1. only for "Funktionærer" which does not include all jobs at all, and 2. holiday.

@realitymatters8720

2 жыл бұрын

@@emillundqvist8126 Arbejdstilsynet ikke til forhandling. Regler om forskelsbehandling. Ligestilling og ligeløn. Ferie regler. Sociale ydelser. Alle disse og flere til, er der statssikrede rettigheder, før der foretages nogle forhandlinger ! Og hvis forhandlingerne slår fejl, ja så dikterer staten hvordan og hvorledes. Måske skulle du kigge lidt nærmere på virkeligheden, og ikke det skønmaleri som der bliver præsenteret udadtil ?

@emillundqvist8126

2 жыл бұрын

@@realitymatters8720 "Sociale ydelser" isn't labour law... It's "social law" which is a topic on its own. It can affect work (e.g. you can be forced to install a handicap ramp if the municipality is willing to pay for it). "Ligestilling" and "Diskrimination" are also not labour law. It's categorized as human rights (again, just because something applies to work, does not make it labour law). So sure, work environment laws exist - and "Ligeløn" also counts.

@realitymatters8720

2 жыл бұрын

@@emillundqvist8126 Yes they are, they were negotiated and won by the unions, and are now a standard upheld by the state, before any negotiation takes place. This is a part of recorded labour history, in essence the beginning of the wellfare state. Let me quote George Carlin, " things that can be taken away from you, are not rights, they are temporary privileges" !

Did you alredy do one about how there is no Starbucks and Espresso Houses instead? (To he clear, I don't often buy coffee out. It's one of the rare items I can cook myself)

@RobeTrotting

11 ай бұрын

There are Starbucks though 🤔

@meowzerzzz

11 ай бұрын

@@RobeTrotting I didn't notice them

Really good good explanation, and not all Danes know this either, but workers unions see the agreements as very important, I have been in the biggest for 20 years 3F, they do not see the employers as an enemy. But as a symbiosis, If employers do as agreed. (if they do not, death to the enemy) Their members are encouraged to work hard and help the company, within the agreement. Many employers trust their employees, or most, that they can work independently, it is a high work efficiency, but very few working hours, compared to the US, on average the same value per year per capita in far fewer hours being created.

The *heavy metal intro* was really funny. The McDonalds strike also spawned the less pleasant habit of "autonomous" youngsters destroying McDonalds restaurants whenever going to some demonstration, this was still a big problem in the early 1990's. It was used in the Danish heavy metal song "Søren Autonom" (Red Warszawa, demo tape. 1991) with each verse ending with "Vi skal smadre McDonalds" ("We must smash up McDonalds"). I am glad such behaviour is now history.

The same misunderstanding applies to GMO food in Europe. It's not banned at all, but there's a massive public boycott . People refuse to buy the stuff and protest when GMO feedstock is imported for animals.

epic intro hahaha

That's the way danes do it. 👍 Working or .... not working ....... together. 🖖

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Always! 😃🙌🏼🇩🇰

@muhest

2 жыл бұрын

This is actually a benefit of “Janteloven”. In unity we’re strong. Noone above - noone below. 😉

one key thing to note is, that in many union fights, there would be other workers, who were not part of the union, who was willing to work without the union contracts. we called these people skruebrækkere, which translates to screwbreakers. (this is cause the union strikes were seen as a skrew slowly tightening in on the company, and people working there anyways break that screw) Skrewbreakers were litterally beaten on the streets if the unionworkers catched them in some lines of work.

that song is really good

It works pretty much the same in Sweden and Norway too. No minimum wages. McDonalds in Sweden did a better start, and had Swedish franchisers/managers... It wasn't as smooth for Toys'R'Us though. It was a bit the same story as with McDonalds in Denmark.

@larsrons7937

2 жыл бұрын

I think there were some trouble with Toys'R'Us in Denmark as well, many years ago. And I'm not sure but don't think they're even in Denmark anymore, I haven't seen them for 20 years.

@SteamboatW

2 жыл бұрын

@@larsrons7937 The whole company worldwide went bust some years ago. Couldn't compete with Amazon.

I Denmark we have something called the danish model (system) where we have a 3partsystem consisting of DA( the organization representing the employers) the LO( the organization representing the workforce) and the state. Usually there will be a negotiation between the two unions about wages, benefits etc and only if they cant come to an agreement, like they are literally stuck, the state will intertwine.

Just sad the danish model isn't taught in school and is very weak today. Hardly 50% of the new workforce gets unionized... And must say organizing has become nearly impossible today. :( And it's getting a bit scary :( (all here in denmark)

@simonpedersen9940

2 жыл бұрын

Also bc of the new mindset people has. Going to work has become part of your identity instead something you do to survive

I'm a big fan of your videos but please work to get a better sound

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Next week. This is our last video with only the boom mic, so it should sound better on all devices going forward.

As a ex-military for 9 years: we/they have a union for military personell.

@williamjones4716

Жыл бұрын

That was the chief reason I was ineligible for unemployment compensation in Denmark, because my previous American military service was without the benefit of a union. Never mind the USA was helping to bankroll the dubious Danish armed forces as a NATO beneficiary. You may recall Mogens Glistrup's idea for the Danish military was to issue bicycles and have an answering machine with a "we surrender" recording.

Automation is certainly the wave of the future in the US and Europe. It has its plusses, reducing production costs, but often at the expense of workers.

I love the story of unity in the McDonald's boycott. My Danish grandparents' home in Avedøre became a McDonald's after they died. My mom says it was weird to eat American french fries in what had been her bedroom. Later McDonald's tore down the house and used the bricks under the parking lot. So now there's a McDonald's parking lot where my grandparents house still stood.

Ajhhh, G'n'R ,,, saw them live in Denmark,,, I'm sooooo old.

Like a modern fairytale. Awsome into. Is that music for real? rofl

You could make a guided tour through Copenhagen now before all tourists to the Tour de France arrive in the city.

O'Leary of Ryan Air messed with the Danish unions too...

We call it common sense.

Yes, going against the danish labour unions is not for the faint of heart… the Danish labor unions have immense power, especially in the unacademic sectors, such as restaurant workers, and all of the supporting staff needed in a supply chain.

As I Dane I can only laugh… definitely don’t mess with a Dane… we are really good at underground work to get what we think is right for the people at large not just for the big boss as in this country money can’t buy everything 😜

This introoo 😂😭

Great Work Denmark !!

@RobeTrotting

2 жыл бұрын

Right! This is such a great story of people coming together 😊🇩🇰

And thus McDonalds was shown how an actual _free_ market works. Capitalism on a level playing field really isn't _that_ bad. Also, album release date when? :D

@RobeTrotting

Жыл бұрын

Great point. And the album may be on hold haha, it it was fun to film! 😂

McDonald’s actually has had the title as the best big place to work for some years here in Denmark. I don’t know if they currently hold it but they got it 3 years in a row. I wonder if it would have been as well-liked as a work place if the unions hadn’t left their mark?