The names being so similiar and all the renaming plus inbreeding really makes it impossible to comprehend who's who

@SplendidFactor

Жыл бұрын

As a book reader, you just get used to it eventually.

@richhistory6085

Жыл бұрын

@@SplendidFactor nice opening for bragging lol

@nickcox7504

Жыл бұрын

Is kinda like European history. All the king Henry's and such

@richhistory6085

Жыл бұрын

@@nickcox7504 the westeros Isle resembles the English Isle. The wall refers to the hadrians wall which Romans built to keep the picts away from the south

@rosscardenas6636

Жыл бұрын

no it doesnt

It’s so funny how perfect a marriage of Jon and Daenerys would have fit into that family tree.

@Empty_Roar

Жыл бұрын

Maybe but dany was infertile

@chriscraddock2867

Жыл бұрын

@@Empty_Roar how you know she infertile? They said it in the series or the books?

@silvermoon986

Жыл бұрын

@@chriscraddock2867 in the books..

@aaronhem5287

Жыл бұрын

@@silvermoon986 in GOT she got pregnant in the first season, after the child died she couldn't bear children anymore..

@GrumlyTheGoblin

Жыл бұрын

In the show She went to a witch to get Kahl Drogo revived and the witch took the unborn babe in her womb and used its life force and her fertility to turn Kahl Drogo into a zombie esc thing

I find it really funny how people are actually surprised that Rhaenyra and Daemon would end up together. The second she looked at him for the first time, sitting on the iron throne (where he gives her the necklace) I was SURE they would become something. I just knew. Instantly.

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

9 ай бұрын

The uncle marries his nephew, even the Pharaohs who marry their brothers did not do this

@thalmoragent9344

9 ай бұрын

​@@user-cg2tw8pw7j What? They married siblings, but not brothers to brother...

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

9 ай бұрын

@@thalmoragent9344 Know

@Danjen3ify

3 ай бұрын

@@user-cg2tw8pw7j I'm pretty sure gay marriage wasn't allowed in ancient Egypt.

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

3 ай бұрын

@@Danjen3ify They appeared at the Kingdom of Thamud, which was ruling the Hijaz, and they were fighting the Kingdom of Kedar

I just knewwwwww from the relationship they had that Daemon would marry his niece, Rhaenyra ...it just had those vibes of how he interacts with her and loves her. Plus the well-known incest factor of the Targaryens

@leoniea.53

Жыл бұрын

I know right? I couldn't resist, I wanted to get spoiled and know if I was right. Since episode 1 it was made so obvious

@Astarrrrr

Жыл бұрын

It honestly makes the most sense that they would get married

@daquaviousbingleton9763

Жыл бұрын

He also marries laena valeryion he has a fling allegedly with Alicent

@--BACKTFUP

Жыл бұрын

He cheats on her with multiple women in the books🤣

@lisas3545

Жыл бұрын

@@daquaviousbingleton9763 Apparently, Martin's books are filled with lore and myths. THOD is going to clear up the truth from the lore.

It's crazy how Alicent Hightower point of Aegon II claiming the throne was to prevent the death of him and his siblings when in the end her line was extinguished and the throne continued through Rhaenyra and Daemon.

@paulabarra5431

Жыл бұрын

She started a war for her to died alone and sick and with all her family line dead.

@user-df8lp9zq8s

Жыл бұрын

@@paulabarra5431 It's a shame that Rhaenyra and Daemon didn't really know that they had won. Because after their death Aegon was alive

@paulabarra5431

Жыл бұрын

@@user-df8lp9zq8s yep but the bastard didn’t live to celebrate burn like fat bacon by Syrax he died without an heir 3 months after and the crown was given to Aegon the young Rhaenrya and Daemon’s first son. So, it was the most satisfying end to that fat big as he made Aegon III watch the most horrific and disgusting thing a human can do to another and latter Alicent’s granddaughter died sadly the same way her pour mother (both victims of alicent and Aegon) did without giving young Aegon an heir. So alicent did all she did for her entire family to vanish by the end of the dance with dragons. 👏bravo what a freaking idiot. While Aegon the young went on to marry a Valeryon and the blood line carried from there. So the Sea Snake, Rhaenys, Leana, leanor, daemon and Rhaenrya they all were cheering in the after life.

@crithiancallaortega5796

Жыл бұрын

@@user-df8lp9zq8s aegon II was truly the weakiest targaryen and it bothers me how rhaenyra was villainized, aegon II steals the throne while she was in labor, killed her children stole the kingdom's gold to fund his army and erased her from the history books and she is the villain? once daemon kills vhagar he was fucked, he basically lost to rhaenys and baela even though they had weaker dragons than him and aemond, he never trully cared for sunfyre either as he was damaged goods by the time he won, his only accomplishment was killing rhaenyra which meant nothing since he dies anyway and her bloodline/lineage kept going and the hightower family line dies

@crithiancallaortega5796

Жыл бұрын

also rhaenyra was always the true heir , also better prepared to be queen which is the reason viserys never replaced her as heir to the throne since she was instructed by him and aemma, unlike aegon II who was instructed by otto and alicent which resulted in the family line dead, she also wouldnt have harmed aegon II without being betrayed

I think this is 1 of the things that made Fire and ice so big, the thought out family trees, their alliances and interconection, and being kept track of. Unfortunetly it may be so complicated keeping track of it all that its making it so hard to finish the last books. I can imagine GRRM writing room having a massive wall with yarn connecting the characters

@navana789

Жыл бұрын

I read somewhere that he pays people to help him keep track of stuff.

@bobbobby475

Жыл бұрын

I think he is just really enjoying being wealthy now which mostly slows his writing xD

@xombie0078

Жыл бұрын

And he also gets off on the incest... so much incest!

@harveylq5395

Жыл бұрын

His room is just full of cocaine now. That s why he cant finish shit anymore

@herchannel1355

Жыл бұрын

Writers.....mostly the already succesful writer usually have writer team (new writer). Sometimes some writers just let them do the work or pays ghostwriter.

That was a lot to take in. I felt like I was studying for a history test lol

That baby opening eyes and then they showed jon still gives me chills

@karlobujan

Жыл бұрын

me 2

@orxnges561

Жыл бұрын

baby was a paid actor

@fantommme

Жыл бұрын

@@orxnges561 …

@solmck737

Жыл бұрын

That baby looked like it went through 7 Hells

@halimeedits4616

Жыл бұрын

I have a question , how did rhaegar gain power after dance of dragons?

A big mistake at the end. Rhaegar married Elia Martell. They had two kids : Rhaenys and Aegon. Then (only in the the tv show, since the books are not finished), Rhaegar married Lyana and they had a son : Jon. However, we don't know his real name in the book. So maybe he was called Aegon too, like his half-brother. Maybe not. At this time GRR Martin was not on the TV show anymore and we all know the shit show it became. In the official family tree, you will find a Aegon, son of Rhaegar, but it's not Jon. (The character of Aegon has actually a big part in the book, but he is maybe an imposter)

@SagarTheSeven

Жыл бұрын

And that young child of Rhaegar and Elia is known as Young Griff (Real name: Aegon Targaryen), he is claimed to be survived from Mountain's massacre. PS: A popular theory is that he is actually not a son of Rhaegar and Elia, he is an imposter, in fact he is the last Blackfyre. It would be very interesting, if he is revealed to be a Blackfyre :)

@paulthomas3669

Жыл бұрын

Among us?

@4Timesdafunky

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Hence "A Song of Ice and Fire" not Sun and Fire.

@andreyuh811

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for adding this. Very important point that was wrong in the video

@Ready-ForTheEnd

Жыл бұрын

There's too many aegons

2:02: I have to admit, the way Aenys is pronounced by the narrator gave me a good laugh 😂😂😂 At first I was like, did one of the Targaryens seriously name their child that?! Lol.

@piratesswoop725

Жыл бұрын

It sounds awful lol. I prefer the way Arya pronounced it in GoT, his mother as Ray-knees so he’d be Ay-knees. Even the way they pronounce it in HotD, Ray-niece would sound fine as Ay-niece. Anything better than Ranus and Anus! 😂

@ivespoken8902

Жыл бұрын

@@piratesswoop725 i think it should be Anuls lol

@ericabennett1158

Жыл бұрын

No she’s pronouncing about 90% of the names wrong lol

The Khaleesi that was killed by Black Knight was a Skrull. The real queen is still alive somewhere in the multiverse.

@QBSuperheroWorld

Жыл бұрын

Maybe she doesn't go Mad Queen on a separate Earth-899

@yinivasanchez599

Жыл бұрын

Aa

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

Lmao 😅

@finns935

Жыл бұрын

SSSHHHHH... Don't tell them.... SSSSHHHHHHH

@ChiTown2k69

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY... trying to follow all these baby daddies is frustrating.. I really don't know why George R Martin wrote it like that. also it's not really mathematically feasible a human being only lives to be somewhere between 70 and a hundred years old they have men fathering like three generations of people not really possible in 100-year period you can't have eight different fathers. But it's a book series and a TV show so I guess it's okay. LOL

No at 7:59 Joe snow was not the son of Elia Martell, see Rhaegar married Elia, had at least 2 children, one of em was named Aegon Targaryen, but Rhaegar divorced Elia, married Lyanna Stark and had Aegon Targaryen, it wasn't uncommon for Targaryens to use the same name more than once. If Jon Snow's older half brother would've survived, Jon would've been called Aegon Targaryen the Younger. Whoever made that family tree got lazy at the end.

@Tsukiakari-qb3tk

Жыл бұрын

and that's tv show canon only, the same show that straight up left out Jaehaerys II and Shaera

Whoever knows which Targaryen is which must have Sherlock level iq

@2mato178

Жыл бұрын

GRRM 😂😂

Actually, GoT already made a retcon to the historical Targaryen bloodline, all the way back in season 3, I think, when maester Aemon tells Jon he's actually Aemon Targaryen, son of king Maekar. He also tells him how he refused the ascend the Iron Throne in order to become a maester, which is why his much younger brother, Aegon, became King Aegon V. He then says that the Mad King, Aerys II, was Aegon V's son, when in reality, in the books, he was his grandson. They basically erased poor Jahaerys II out of the fictional history.

@markscherer3881

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that retcon happened in season 1

@1man910

Жыл бұрын

Yes that is so true I just saw that clip

@sanvalentine23

Жыл бұрын

it was an error that was later admitted by the show

@madsgrams2069

Жыл бұрын

@@sanvalentine23 Eah, happens...

@jeelee3096

5 ай бұрын

GOT is not canon

I haven't seen the new show yet but a wish the new series was about the mad kings story and Roberts rebblian and it's crazy af how all these family trees go back 100s of years and all this world from one man's brain don't know how he could come up with all this

I just recently found out that Jon Snow has the same name as his biological half brother Aegon. The reason behind it was because of a prophecy that Rhaegar believed in, so when his first son and his wife and daughter were murdered and Jon Snow was born, Rhaegar and Lyanna named him Aegon so that the prophecy may have a chance of coming true

@amyra8159

Жыл бұрын

Nah....rhaegar Targaryen was already dead when jon was born. Rhaegar, according to prophecy might have wanted third head of the dragon, who might be a girl, as Aegon and Rhaenys his children were already born. He might have wanted to name his third child after Visenya...but his baby was of wrong gender lol

@richcheckmaker9789

Жыл бұрын

@@amyra8159 He was dead? You mean he can't have told Lyanna the name before he died?

@thatoneblackdude3333

Жыл бұрын

@@richcheckmaker9789 season 8 is nonsense it makes no since for rheagar to name 2 of his sons the same name .

@richcheckmaker9789

Жыл бұрын

@@thatoneblackdude3333 That part makes sense, he thinks the prince that was promised is going to be his son with Elia Martell at first so he names him Aegon, then later he realizes his son with Lyanna is the real prince that was promised so also names him Aegon.

@thatoneblackdude3333

Жыл бұрын

@@richcheckmaker9789 no it doesn't rheagar intended to have a daughter Visenya to recreate the original 3 headed Dragon he also died before Jon was even born so there's no way he'd know what gender he was or prepare a mane for him Jon's targaryen name being aegon was a tv creation because they threw away the lore and rules of the world that's also why they pretend he was the rightful hier over dany when Jon is still legally a basterd because rheagar was already married to another women before getting with leana

Yeah, this was all kinds of wrong in some places, particularly when it comes to the end of the family tree. Rhaegar had two kids with Eilia, one of whom was a son, baby Aegon. *Jon's* Targaryen name is actually still unknown when it comes to the books. But given that Rhaegar already had a son named Aegon, it's doubtful it's that. Also, Aegon I married both his sisters at the same time, not one then another. (So yeah, he had 2 wives at the same time, both of whom were his sisters). In fact, his oldest child's mother was his YOUNGEST sister and was the one who inherited the throne right after Aegon I. Maegor *usurped* the crown from his nephew after his half-brother Aeyns I died.

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

I think it was said that Aegon loved one of them a little more than the other, and I think he slept with the younger one a little more often, which is why she had the first kid

@Mainlyeverything

Жыл бұрын

Jon's name will be aegon By the time jon was born, rhaegars family had been murdered. Rhaegar didn't name him and had just died Basically, rhaegar has lots of dreams like aegon the conqueror does regarding the prince that was promised and it must be a song of ice and fire. Hence stark and targaryen. He tells lyanna. The prince must be named Aegon, hence when lyanna finds out about kings landing, she names her son aegon. GRRM gave the endings for the characters but apparently he will change it because of the bad reaction lol

@44unknown83

Жыл бұрын

For some reason a lot of people seem to want Jon Snow to remain Jon Snow and not be a secret Targaryen. I think for them it adds to his character, a simple bastard rising in life, instead of a secret prince who was promised. I’m still questioning why the show resurrected him, only for Arya to steal his thunder, unless of course Jon snow was just there for Arya as moral support.

@cbrownjc7633

Жыл бұрын

@@44unknown83 Well honestly it isn't that the show resurrected Jon, it's that Jon's going to be resurrected in the books. Now, how he comes back in the books and what that'll mean for him remains in question. But the show only did it because GRRM is going to do it in the books. But when he does it won't be because he's going to have some fight with the Night King, because the Night King doesn't exist in the books. So D&D did it, and then just decided to take any remaining storyline they had set up for Jon around that and just chuck it over to Arya. Why? In their own words, it was because they felt like it.

@jeffs6090

Жыл бұрын

@@44unknown83 - I like Arya killing the NK. Jon did his duty as a leader to unite everyone to fight against the army of the dead. I think it would have been too cliche for him to do it. Arya spent her life training to become an assassin. The show spent a lot of time throughout all the seasons on her. It was fitting for her arc to be the one to do it. Otherwise, all that time watching her grow would have been for nothing.

That was a really good breakdown. I appreciate this.

Slight mistake here - The GOT show did not change Jon Snow's (Aegon's) mother, Rhaegar had two sons with different women, both named Aegon. The show did hint that they'd removed Jaehaerys II Targaryen from their cannon though.

@sanitizerwilson1599

Жыл бұрын

That is true the show did remove Jaehaerys II Targaryen from the tree.

@MichaelWilliams-cs9ey

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@MichaelWilliams-cs9ey

Жыл бұрын

Why did they remove J II?

@LuciferChapel1987

Жыл бұрын

They removed J II T to make Maestor Aemon more closely related to The Mad King and closer to the current time. It's not too late to retcon that though, as the only time it's mentioned is by an elderly Maestor Aemon, who wasn't too far from his deathbed at the time and could have easily been confused given his age.

@MacNif

Жыл бұрын

@@LuciferChapel1987 Great explanation, you should write books or movie scripts.

I have been trying to figure the connection out. Thank You!!!!!

Is there ever going to be a day that someone making these videos actually reads and understands the source material prior to writing their scripts? Jaeherys didn't outlive "all" his children - there's at least 2 alive at the point of the Great Council Vaegon (a Maester) and Saera (exiled across the narrow sea). Neither an ideal choice which was the point of the council but that doesn't mean he outlived them all.

@hhhggbg3000

Жыл бұрын

Saera was pretty much dead in the eyes of Jaehaerys, and Vaegon, being a maester, was pretty much dead in family name.

@vanessalore9942

Жыл бұрын

She also said the great counsel was like on the show except it was Leanor who was up against Vacerys

@rtozier2011

Жыл бұрын

The only children of Jaehaerys there is evidence existed in the show are Aemon (Rhaenys's dad), Baelon, Alyssa (Viserys and Daemon's parents) and Daella (Aemma's mother). Tragedy claimed 'both his sons' which most likely means there's no Vaegon in the show universe. Saera probably exists, since there were still lots of rival claims at the Great Council. But she won't be relevant.

@lynnxx1744

Жыл бұрын

Maesters are required to forget their family names, right? They give up their entire familial and political history? I'm still new to Game of Thrones and the whole franchise, so it's definitely confusing, but if what I just stated is true, then that means Vaegon was technically not a Targaryen anymore. Simply just Maester Vaegon. Saera being exiled definitely kicks her out of the family Targaryen. Though both were still alive, and had Targaryen genes, it's possible they weren't considered true Targaryens due to their statuses.

@keiishine

Жыл бұрын

@@lynnxx1744 yes, you are correct about maesters. Maester Aemon was a prince and son of Maekar, and ahead of Aegon V, but he abdicated the crown and that's why his younger brother became king. It's similar to the Night's Watch, they can't hold lands, titles, get married or have children. That's why Samwell Tarly was disinherited as heir to House Tarly.

Thank you for explaining that so thoroughly!

The family tree was summarised perfectly In house of the dragon : "she's our sister" "then you marry her"

And here I am expecting the family tree to be a circle

Just FYI, Aemma Arryn's father is not unknown, his name is Rodrik Arryn :)

@Tsukiakari-qb3tk

Жыл бұрын

yep!

Believe me, it's best to take the time and read Fire and Blood because this all gets insanely confusing, mostly because of similar names.Daemon and Rhaenyra marry out of affection but also to seal their right to the Iron Throne. Rhaemyrrra has a terrible fate in store for her, and so do her children.

@InfamousB9

Жыл бұрын

There is just 6 Aegon's,its a headache

Great vid thanks!! Makes it all very clear.

Actually the source material states that it was between Laenor and Vicerys at the great council. Rhaenys had been passed over already when Baelon was named heir over her. The show changed it

@akpedenyore6120

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

The best part is that it started with Aegon (the conquerer) and ended with Aegon (Jon Snow). 😱👍👍

@coolbuddydude1

Жыл бұрын

lol wow...

@iangallagher5448

Жыл бұрын

There’s still a bunch of Targs and people of Targeryen descent still out there

@stillnotchill2560

Жыл бұрын

Not that crazy or interesting considering half the cast share their names, if not more.

@SorceressWitch

Жыл бұрын

The dynasty? We don't know the founder but the earliest is Aenar who fled the valyrian freehold to come to westeros. So he was the first Targaryen lord of Dragonstone. As king it would be Daenerys the last ruler as Jon never ruled westeros and never was officially known as a Targaryen, so not really. He was exiled and still is known as a bastard.

@denfarc

Жыл бұрын

@@SorceressWitch Yes. You have a point. It is just that Aegon is more famous for those watching the show and non book readers. 👍👍

*Rhaenyra and Daemon are the ancestors of Daenerys, the Baratheon brothers and their children and the Martells. Renly, Stannis, Gendry, the Sand Snakes, Oberyn, Elia, Shireen [...] all of them are her descendants.*

@SorceressWitch

Жыл бұрын

Penrose, Plumm, Longwaters also descend from them. A younger son of Hightowers Garmund, had 6 daughters with Rhaena who is Daemon's daughter. His other daughter Baela married Alyn Velaryon and had a child with him. Also there's the blackfyres which is why there were multiple rebellions. Then there's always bastards as well.

I could tell just by watching ep 1 that Daemon and Rhaenyra would end up together lol. And I have no idea about the books

@lisas3545

Жыл бұрын

She is the only one he loves besides his brother and himself. 😂

Finally, someone is making sense out of the awful lots... this was straight to the point. The family names gets confusing along the line but this was on point. Thanks for making things clear.

Maegor is younger than Aenys. This is a very important detail since Maegor and his mother Visenya believed that Maegor should be the true king because he acted more like a “dragon” than Aenys. Maegor was never the true heir to the throne. He just stole it for 6 horrible years

You really are doing the lords work

Thank you for this awesome explanation. Cheers! 🥂

You are wrong about the last Aegon. Jon Snow (Aegon) is son of Rhaegar and Lyana Stark while Rhaegar and Elia Martell also have a son named Aegon aka Young Griff

@guLynx

Жыл бұрын

Rhaegar was obsessed with the Prince that was Promised prophecy and was convinced the Prince would be named Aegon. So he essentially he wanted to name both of his sons Aegon to ensure the Prince that was Promised would be his son.

@tariizm1500

Жыл бұрын

@@guLynx that doesnt makes any sense

Rhaenyra-Viserys II-Aegon IV-Daeron II-Maekar I-Aegon V-Aerys II-Daenerys

@charlesdugay--leyoudec8712

Жыл бұрын

And Jaehaerys II

@matteovaldini9356

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesdugay--leyoudec8712 technically yes, but in the series master Aemon reveals that Aerys II was the son of Aegon V and not Jaehaerys II

@charlesdugay--leyoudec8712

Жыл бұрын

@@matteovaldini9356 ah yeah, sorry I used books family, I forgot about this

@iangallagher5448

Жыл бұрын

@@matteovaldini9356 It was a mistake but Jaehearys II is still king even in the show

@matteovaldini9356

Жыл бұрын

@@iangallagher5448 that I remember he was never mentioned in the series

Daemon is Dany’s 6th great grandfather

Thanks for this!

The book "World of Ice & Fire" has all the family trees and lots more info.

Man you’d expect the Targaryens to be a pretty huge house with all the kids each parent has had.

@mooseroom3916

11 ай бұрын

It’s crazy how unlucky the Targaryen’s are with offspring

@laurendearnley9595

9 ай бұрын

Except they keep marrying their sisters and nieces. Not only does this create a lot of genetic issues in terms of stillborns, miscarriages, and unhealthy children, it also limits the descendants, because you don't have two of your children creating two new branches in a pyramid style expansion, they marry each other and the line keeps converging back.

@mooseroom3916

9 ай бұрын

@@laurendearnley9595 true, but that is quite important for the power dynamic in Westeros because Targaryen blood makes you special with being able to tame dragons

"This is GOT lore so incest is a big part of it, in that way, almost everyone in the targaryen family is related" The absolute finest thing I've ever heard.

@arunsingla3452

Жыл бұрын

even starks and lannisters have been involved in incest. ned stark's parents were cousins so were tywin and joanna. then there is that time when two of cregan stark's(he is going to appear later on in the house of the dragon show) son married their neices.

@loveyourlife5513

Жыл бұрын

@@arunsingla3452 is marrying cousin considered as incest? Even in modern days, law allows marry your cousin in somany countries..younger generation doesn't prefer that. So number of such marriage decreased now a days.... But still it's happening.. ( not a English native speaker)

@bibbiana4Lyfe

Жыл бұрын

@@loveyourlife5513 first cousins are not allowed to marry

@tariizm1500

Жыл бұрын

@@bibbiana4Lyfe it is allowed in many countries my parents are 1st cousin

Thanks for the full explanation Miss Jamie Lannister & Cercei is normal when I saw this family tree

Thank you so much sister.. This cleared my confusion, I have been searching all over internet to understand the relationship between danny and rheanera.. God bless you sister You are best

@Tsukiakari-qb3tk

Жыл бұрын

Daenerys is Rhaenyra's 6xGreat Granddaughter Rhaenyra Viserys II (son) Aegon IV (grandson) Daeron II (great-grandson) Maekar I (2xgreat-grandson) Aegon V (3xgreat-grandson) Jaehaerys II (4xgreat-grandson) Aerys II (5xgreat-grandson) Daenerys I (6xgreat-granddaughter)

if my eyes dont decieve me, pretty much all babies had white hair if the father did. The only instance this didnt occur was with jon suprisingly. lucky for ned he didnt have to go through much to hide jons real identity

@joshheirmann7455

Жыл бұрын

If you look closely, every time a Targaryen married a woman with no white hair, the first born child has the mother hair and the rest has the father. Like Baelor Breakspear, son of Daeron II and Myriah Martell. Duncan, son of Aegon V and Betha Blackwood. Rhaenys, daughter of Rhaegar and Elia Martell. And Jon, son of Rhaeghar and Lyanna.

@hypothalapotamus5293

Жыл бұрын

@@joshheirmann7455 Daeron son of Maekar as well.

The show show didn't change the children of Rhaegar like you said. They are the same. There were 2 Aegons.

@jedimasters1462

Жыл бұрын

I think they only named Jon as Aegon because they didn't do the FAegon storyline. Otherwise, the book will be very confusing if he's also named Aegon.

@commantermormont1657

Жыл бұрын

@@jedimasters1462 Yeah we will see. But I think that they will name him Aegon in the books as well.

@jedimasters1462

Жыл бұрын

@@commantermormont1657 That would be way too confusing with someone else going by Aegon.

@commantermormont1657

Жыл бұрын

@@jedimasters1462 I dont think anyone will call Jon as Aegon. I think that it will be mentioned in the same way. That he is the son of Rhaegar and his name was Aegon. Very few will know and everyone who does will keep calling him Jon. So no much confusing there.

@ba-cl8ji

Жыл бұрын

@@jedimasters1462 The Faegon storyline wasn't included to the show but Rhaegar and Elia's son Aegon is still mentioned in the earlier episodes.

Rhaenyra , also connected to Baratheon Brothers, Gendry, and Shireen. First 2 episode Rhaenyra was like Shireen(betray by her dad and disobeys her dad to do the right thing). Also Rhaenyra is the many great grandmother of Baratheon Brothers.

Since this series came I am trying to wrap my head around the relations..

I hope they decide to keep the connection to Jon & Daenerys so that once they put as much of the WHOLE STORY together as possible on the 'Small Screen' when we're off on the holidays we can 'veg out' on the TOTAL series. I would like to know how the LINE lost 'Cat's Paw' now since they have set up that it was passed from 'heir to heir'! It seems to me that they 'deliberately' made a connection between the Targaryen Kings and a STARK ending up with it.

@aphryo

Жыл бұрын

Well, it was passed from heir to heir, so it would've went from the Mad King to Rhaegar, both who died during Robert's Rebellion, so the significance of the dagger would've been lost, only it's value as a Valyrian weapon kept it changing hands among the wealthy. We could make the assumption that Jaime took it from the Mad King directly and gifted it to Tyrion at some point, and then we know the rest of the journey.

@ba-cl8ji

Жыл бұрын

It's kinda obvious how they lost it. It was passed from king to heir, and Rhaegar was the last heir before Targaryen's fall (meaning the last one to know about Aegon's prophecy) and he couldn't live long enough to tell this to his own heir.

@Ms.Byrd68

Жыл бұрын

@@ba-cl8ji I don't see that dagger on Rhaegar in the 'Wedding' scene that Brandon Stark saw. Just because he was passed the 'Prophecy' doesn't mean he got the dagger.

@aileenma7518

Жыл бұрын

I think that prophecy probably got lost when Rhaenyra got eaten by Aegons dragon Sunfyre. She might have passed it on to her older sons but they all died as well.

@Ms.Byrd68

Жыл бұрын

@@aileenma7518 She married her Uncle and gave him two sons, both later sat on the Iron Throne. (Aegon III & Viserys II) Her olders son did die in the War but they were the children of her first marriage to Laenor Velaryon.

You didn't mention Aemon Targaryen that was in the night watch with John snow, hes brother the mad king

@sanitizerwilson1599

Жыл бұрын

No he was grand uncle to the mad king.

@motasemabualrob

Жыл бұрын

@@sanitizerwilson1599 they didn't mention him

@thedigitalsight6010

Жыл бұрын

Why does aemon targaryen in GOT when he was dying kept saying "Egg"?

@jedimasters1462

Жыл бұрын

@@thedigitalsight6010 Egg was Aegon the 5ths nickname and Aemon's younger brother.

@joydeepbanerjee8491

Жыл бұрын

The show removed Jaehaerys II from the lineage shown in books, and presented Aegon V (egg) as the father of Aerys II (mad king).

Thanks for explaining 🙂

This is helpful. Thanks.

Rhaelle the daughter of Aegon V ,is robert baratheons grandmother, thus making gendry a descendant of the targeryan line as well. jon snow and gendry are the last of the targareyans , gendry still comes from rhaenyras blood too.

@michaellee4276

Жыл бұрын

There are other Targaryens in the female line too, though Robert Baratheon is the closest legitimate relative to Jon and Dany at the time of Game of Thrones (which would apply to any legitimate or legitimized children of Robert). Jon, Dany, Viserys, and the Baratheon Brothers are the only living legitimate descendants of Aegon V at the start of Game of Thrones. They are descended from Aegon V, but Aegon V's sisters had children and descendants and he also had a fraternal niece and nephew (who was passed for the crown because his father was a psychopath). Of course if you start counting Bastards, it gets out of control. (I know Gendry was legitimized in the show and the Blackfyres in the books, so they are different from the other bastards.) Anyway, there are other descendants of Rhaenyra and Daemon, including all of House Martell (through Raenyra's Great-grandaughter).

@CrazyBabyAttack

Жыл бұрын

The Velaryons in GoT are also decendants of Targaryens. So Targs are not that uncommon really.

There shouldn’t be circles in family trees

Hey Anna ✌️ How much cost of your voice over?

I really hope HOD will give us Aegon's Conquest and Robert Baratheon's rebellion.

@Danjen3ify

3 ай бұрын

The Dance of Dragons, the first, third and fourth Blackfyre Rebellions, the Conquest, Maegor's reign, Daeron's campaigns in Dorne and the War of the Nine-Penny Kings are all far more interesting stories. If they do Robert's Rebellion it should be as flashbacks in the inevitable Game of Thrones remake.

Anus Targaryen.... did not expect that!! I've read that name many times, but never heard it pronounced like that. Lol!

@nicolesaeger

Жыл бұрын

It's pronounced ay-knees lol

Your caption answered my question 😂

Like this, it realy helped in this confusion 😘😘

everyone is Aegon 🤦🏻‍♂️

With all of the incest going on how come there aren’t a whole lot of children with birth defects ?

@alexdimcheva8255

Жыл бұрын

Well the white hair is def a defect but in the story the Thargaryen family is connected with the gods so they can incest without a problem and as we see it's totally normal for them.

@EverlastingTorr

Жыл бұрын

The inherent madness is a trait of incest also.

@jjm0537

Жыл бұрын

I believe Vicerys has hemophilia as seen in the HOTD series. Still though.

@Danjen3ify

3 ай бұрын

@@EverlastingTorr What madness? There's a total of three mad Targaryens. I'm ruling out Maegor the Cruel because he was just evil. I'm ruling out Baelor the Blessed because he was a religious extremist. Some people call Viserys mad, but he's just a fool. That leaves Rhaegel, Aerion Brightflame and Aerys II. The mad Targaryens are a myth created by the show.

@Danjen3ify

3 ай бұрын

@@jjm0537 Show Viserys have leprecy. That's why he's falling apart.

When Jaehaerys the !st is Bib Fortuna from Retrun of the Jedi, I can't help but hear, "De wana wanga"

I’m excited to see how Aemon the maestro will be introduced in his younger years

Deamon and Rhaenyra are the ones that continue on the Targeryans Dynasty. One thing I don’t understand is why their first born Son Aegon III does not become king but their second son Viserys II does, who ultimately build the descendants that lead to the mad king, Dany and Jon snow. While the descendants of Aegon III end up being the blackfire family. Aegon III was the first born, married Daenera Valeryon who was her half sister and cousin eho had Targeryan blood from her grandmother the queen who never was. So if anything their kids deserved to continue the Targeryan dynasty. Anyone know why??

@mariagabbott

Жыл бұрын

Excellent question!

@serarthurdayne5880

Жыл бұрын

He becomes king and his two sons also become kings ,but they don't have any heir ,so logically it passed to Viserys II, Viserys II served as hand for Aegon III and his two nephews before he was king.

@claytonbugeja1125

Жыл бұрын

The dynasty continued with a miracle since somehow viserys 2 make it alive from the dance of dragons

@Danjen3ify

3 ай бұрын

The Blackfyres are descended from Daemon Blackfyre, who's the first of Aegon IV's great bastards. They're descended from Viserys II, not Aegon III.

Doesn’t this mean Viserys I, is Jon Snows’ 8th great great grandfather as well?

@paulabarra5431

Жыл бұрын

Yeap and Daemon his 9th.

Thank you, it was very intersting

Did NOBODY in the production of this watch GOT or check their facts? How could you broadcast the last minute of this, thinking that Lyanna Stark is Elia Martell and completely ignoring the fact Rhaegar had two sons named Aegon (in the show anyway, Jon Snows birth name hasnt been revealed in the books.) Thats a MAJOR plot point and the thing that nearly every casual viewer understands.

How is Jon snow the last, if we don’t know about other branches of the family

@Danjen3ify

3 ай бұрын

If Saera's branch still exists there's nothing left of the Targaryens in it. The Blackfyre branch is pretty much extinct. The male line, anyway. We don't know what happened to Maegor Brightflame. If he had children his line might still be around. But that's about it.

I believe you have your Aegon I son's births switched. Aenys was king before Maegor.

the equivalent distance in time, would have been the late Queen Elizabeth II's ancestor of King George III, famously the King that lost the American Colonies

Thank you for telling the truth about spoilers.

Dany is descended from Rhaenrya and Daemon’s son Viserys.

They must've died super young (I know many did), 172 years doesn't have to be such a big distance that it would produce 6 generations in between.

@projectbora

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s more because they married and had kids young. But yes, a lot died young too

Rhaenyra is actually Danny's 7 great grandma

Targarian family now resides somewhere in Mississippi in a small town called insestville

Daenerys and Aegon (Jon) should have gotten married and ruled jointly and Dany shouldn’t have gone mad, but no, show was ruined by stupid directors.

@rahimrahimi15

Жыл бұрын

Oh, come on, what do you expect the Lannisters to be defeated and imprisoned and Daenerys Jon Snow to get married and it all ends well and joy and laughter, so that's how it's going to be ridiculous, and that after Daenerys becomes queen, everyone finally realizes that Jon Snow is a Targaryen, this may spark a home war between Jon Snow and Daenerys' children or grandchildren.

@Danjen3ify

3 ай бұрын

@@rahimrahimi15 How is set-up for future stories a bad thing? Also, the show was always going to be more simplified than the books. They should have just went with it.

So how I’m seeing this is that HoD May run 3-4 seasons. This first season being the generation of Daemon/Viserys/Rhaenyra/Alicent. Then following the the stories of Aegon and then his offspring all the way up to the mad king. Right into the beginning of GoT. That will be beautiful. By then we will have been introduced to all the houses and there may be more background on the whitewalkers. Big excite

@joshheirmann7455

Жыл бұрын

No. HotD would be 3-4 seasons explaing the Dance of Dragons aka Rhaenyra vs Aegon.

@drw_predator

Жыл бұрын

I really hope they don't ruin this like GOT SEASON 8 disaster did

@SorceressWitch

Жыл бұрын

That is not what the 4 seasons are for and there wouldn't be enough seasons to go that far. Season 1 was from the great council where Viserys was chosen as heir and mostly showed his reign as king and the events leading up to the dance of the dragons. The next season's will all take place during the dance of the dragons. Season 1 had many time jumps but they're over now. The 4th season will be when the war ends. The show is using material from a book called Fire and Blood. The book is big and covers the reigns of Aegon I - Aegon III and there is a part 2 planned to cover the other Targaryen kings. GRRM is still writing The Winds of Winter and needs to get that done first and then he said he will write more Dunk and Egg stories and A Dream of Spring. So I don't know when Fire and Blood part 2 will be done but it can wait as ASOIAF is more important and that's his main focus right now. He has been busy with TWOW and has 25% of it left to finish writing.

@Danjen3ify

3 ай бұрын

@@drw_predator Unlike Benioff and Weiss Ryan Condall is actually competent and he understands the source material.

also the ending of the show didnt have grrm input into it. so from seaon 6 to 8 GRRM was essential not invovled.

UGHHH THANKS FOR THIS!!!! the names are super confusing!!!! hahaha reused for generations lol

Just a bit of advice for your followers. If you stick to just the same family tree whether it be the one with pictures or names and not have clips of the show in between it’ll be easier to follow.

@QBSuperheroWorld

Жыл бұрын

Cool. We'll keep that in mind and make the transitions a little smoother. Thank you for your honest feedback!

I didn't read the books, and even I know there's no way Jon Snow was the son of Rhaegar's wife. For one thing, there's no way Ned Stark would raise and protect him if he wasn't related to him in some way. Just that fact alone completely blows apart Jon being Elia Martell's child.

I do know Daemon would have been obsessed with Daenerys, lol especially her riding a dragon with no saddle & being fireproof

I love the Targaryens theme music

What if the spinoff GOT: Snow, where Jon went to the north but eventually traveled and meet up with Drogon and become his mount? The last Targeryan riding the last dragon...

@sarahjames927

Жыл бұрын

I’m sorry but anything post s8 is stupid to me. One of the reasons s8 was atrocious was because you had two guys being lazy flying by the seat of their pants coming up with a script that was based on no source material. So the things that made GOT popular in storytelling effort, detail and anticipation of viewers was totally destroyed. Let’s put this way I have no faith in Snow.

@michaelcortez6596

Жыл бұрын

@@sarahjames927 do not be disheartened by incompetence of the last writers, GRR Martin is still alive and "Snow" can find redemption by the hands of the greatest storyteller of our time, given a chance..

@tariizm1500

Жыл бұрын

Daenarys still alive with her 3 dragons what are you talking about?

@michaelcortez6596

Жыл бұрын

@@tariizm1500 yes & I am Tom Cruise! Lol. 😂😂

@tariizm1500

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelcortez6596 you think i am joking? she is in last book 16 years old queen of Meereen her nephew Aegon (Jon's big brother) with 10k soldier landed in Westeros he is nowadays planning take over Stormlands... btw Dany conquered Astapor, Yunkai and Meereen at the age of 14. that stupid show called GOT isnt canon...

This family is more confusing than any other thing

I know that the inbreeding trope in GRRM's books is directly based on European and British dynasties, but still, the utter ignorance, greed and lunacy of it always ups the creepiness factor way up for me.

Rhaegar having two sons named Aegon (different mothers) is possible. My friend dated a guy who had at least 3 baby mamas and two of them named the daughter they had with him "Desiree". No joke guys! This guy did not say "yo baby mama, my other baby mama already named my kid Desiree." So yeah this guy has two daughters named Desiree.

@Kk-me1si

Жыл бұрын

Reasonable

@a.a677

Жыл бұрын

Aegon will not be Jon's name in the books. Its absolutely stupid

@Danjen3ify

3 ай бұрын

That doesn't change the fact that it's stupid.

They didn't make a mistake Rhaegar Targerian has 2 sons named Aegon, one with Elia Martell and the other with Lyana Stark

@Danjen3ify

3 ай бұрын

That's the show, and it's stupid.

I tried to google this while watching first ep but i just got a headache.

Everyone, take the family tree in this video with a grain of salt. It's all messed up. I can't tell you what's right, but I can tell you this is wrong.

So what so wrong if daenerys will be with jon snow? If rhaenyra wed her uncle daemon and brother and sisters notoriously wed in the whole targaryen line. Personally I dont consider the targaryens as humans similar to the limitations of earth humans. They are beings touched by magic so maybe that not so bad in their terms.

@alexisleander477

Жыл бұрын

I would agree that they’re not the same as the rest of us. It is believed that they inbreed so that they won’t lose their magic to control dragons, but those inbreedings surely have its tolls. To quote some characters from GoT, „Every time a Targaryen is born, the Gods flip a coin.“ He/She will either become a good ruler or mad, and in Dany‘s case, we knew on which side the coin landed.

@Cream-2128

Жыл бұрын

Ned parents were cousins

@ba-cl8ji

Жыл бұрын

@@Cream-2128 .you're right. Tywin Lannister's wife was also his cousin BUT marrying cousins weren't considered incest in the middle ages (or even today in some cultures)

@siran424

Жыл бұрын

@@ba-cl8ji It's not considered as incest in India too.

@mikered1974

Жыл бұрын

@@alexisleander477 actually the Targaryens begone unstable in Mind when they Lose there Dragons and started feeling Vulnerable unlike when they still have those Beast.

Good explanation

The only thing I learnt from this video is that House of dragon series is gonna be very big🙃

@Cardimeloo

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully it won’t get canned if it doesn’t do well but so far so good

omg so confusing how this one big family

@chiefkeef6405

Жыл бұрын

lots and lots of incest her family tree is almost a straight line

What? In the books Jon is son of Elia, not Lyana??? In the books there is John Connington with a boy whose hair was dyed blue to cover his targaryen white hair… So there is a suggestion that the boy is the son of Raegar and Elia who officially was killed.

@ba-cl8ji

Жыл бұрын

They explained it wrong. Rhaegar and Elia indeed had a son named Aegon, but he was killed at the end of Robert's Rebellion. The show didn't include Young Griff (young boy with dyed blue hair) but in the books, he is claimed to be Aegon Targaryen (Rhaegar&Elia's son who is presumed dead) but he's most likely a Blackfyre (a legitimized bastard line of the Targaryens). Jon Snow was the second son of Rhaegar whose name is also Aegon (his true name is still unknown in the books but some believe it's Aegon in the books too) and his mother is Lyanna.

I had no clue this was so complicated! 🥴

Thank you for explaining wow that was a lot lol

This is one hell of a play book with lines going all over the place.

Dragon exists, army of the dead exist, bringing back the dead exist... its possible for danaerys to bring back to life. For example, Jons Snow once died for taking many knife stab in the body and he still lives... i hope they bring danaerys back to life in HOTD!!!!!

@Tsukiakari-qb3tk

Жыл бұрын

HOW! it's a fucking prequel, set nearly two hundred years before daenerys is even born

My head almost explode with this similiar naming i had to pause to understand whos who