How China Stole their J-20 Stealth Aircraft

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China’s mighty dragon J-20 stealth fighter jet aims to outmatch the American F-35 and F-22 fighters, it wants to dominate the skies over the South China Sea and ensure air superiority in the event of a war with the United States. but is it really all that great or is it just a cheap Aliexpress knock off version? To be fair, Xi Jinping's air force is getting a large part of the beefed up modernization budget and it appears to be paying off in some ways. Experts estimate China to have at least 200 J-20s in service today. So this isn’t one of those adversarial weapons that we hear will exist one day in the far distance like Russia’s T-14 armata tank, nope this thing is actually here already.
And these are exactly the kind of interceptor jets that are deployed in incidents like In August 2022, when their air forces responded to Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan by breaking records with 446 aircraft incursion into Taiwan airspace in a single month. But are any of the J-20’s capabilities unique or did China tactically acquire all of them? Tactically acquire is a lower enlisted way of saying steal it. Although this time its not just the United States claiming the jet was stolen Russia is also crying foul. We’ll also speculate on whether or not American radar systems detect this new Chinese stealth fighter, And how is the J-20 optimized for anti-access area denial - which is China’s main strategy and tactic for dominating in the South China Sea.
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  • @Taskandpurpose
    @Taskandpurpose11 ай бұрын

    A big thanks to Ridge Wallet for sponsoring today’s video. Check them out here: ridge.com/taskandpurpose and use code ""TASKANDPURPOSE"" to get 10% off

  • @scottbattaglia8595

    @scottbattaglia8595

    11 ай бұрын

    So what if the j-20 can go 800 extra kms or whatever a single 1 minute refueling I would say is way better, you could have loitering fighters and AWACS non stop

  • @EroticOnion23

    @EroticOnion23

    11 ай бұрын

    @@anonymousandy5574 use the string under the ring method

  • @artnull13

    @artnull13

    11 ай бұрын

    If you watched China’s ‘bottom gun’ film, you’d know it’s the superior fighter 😂

  • @danhobart4009

    @danhobart4009

    11 ай бұрын

    Disliked for not showing taiwan as part of China. Also, why no 9 dash line?

  • @Donnirononon

    @Donnirononon

    11 ай бұрын

    @@danhobart4009 Taiwan is not part of that shithole lol

  • @Climber565
    @Climber56511 ай бұрын

    But what balloons has the J-20 popped??

  • @AlexDuos

    @AlexDuos

    11 ай бұрын

    Asking the real questions!

  • @Vmaxfodder

    @Vmaxfodder

    11 ай бұрын

    🤣😅😂🤣😅🤔

  • @sirsmeal3192

    @sirsmeal3192

    11 ай бұрын

    It does have an altitude advantage, but no cannon. It cannot outdo the F-22 at balloon popping.

  • @WackadoodleMalarkey

    @WackadoodleMalarkey

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@sirsmeal3192​​Wasn't there a whole big deal made that they used a sidewinder missile instead of cannons because they'd actually already tried cannons on a previous balloon and it didn't pop?

  • @damianketcham

    @damianketcham

    11 ай бұрын

    @@WackadoodleMalarkey Yeah. The Canadians sprayed a ballon with the F-18 20mm and it just kept floating on.

  • @MOHAMMADKHAIRILAMBIAPUTRA
    @MOHAMMADKHAIRILAMBIAPUTRA11 ай бұрын

    "would you intercept me? I'd intercept me" - F-22 Raptor

  • @Ghostfury2004

    @Ghostfury2004

    11 ай бұрын

    Man of culture I see

  • @hunterreeves6525

    @hunterreeves6525

    11 ай бұрын

    “It smells like BITCH in this airspace” - F-22 Raptor

  • @B01

    @B01

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Ghostfury2004great skin too I bet

  • @anonanumerical367

    @anonanumerical367

    11 ай бұрын

    I see you!

  • @MilSimWannabe

    @MilSimWannabe

    11 ай бұрын

    "I'd intercept me so hard"

  • @shiangchen1
    @shiangchen111 ай бұрын

    Unlike the SU-57, the J20 is at the very least real production plane. So technically there's only 2 countries that have produced fifth gen fighters. You really can't count the felon prototypes.

  • @Fred_the_1996

    @Fred_the_1996

    8 ай бұрын

    Russia does have a squadron of operational felons, but still the number is tiny

  • @ronjon7942

    @ronjon7942

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Fred_the_1996Operational parade fighters, reminiscent of the MiG-9.

  • @jackwang1238

    @jackwang1238

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@Fred_the_1996俄罗斯人不靠战斗机,他们随时都可能扔核弹头,别忘了俄国人手上还有几千颗核弹头随时扔到伦敦、纽约。

  • @adityabharat1445

    @adityabharat1445

    6 ай бұрын

    Well SU57 is only 4th gen with actual fight and kill.

  • @TiberiiGrakh

    @TiberiiGrakh

    6 ай бұрын

    su 57 is battle proven 5th gen plane. yes number is not tha big but in production. f 35 is garbage f 22 is ok but expensive. but unlike f 35 its real 5th gen. chinese = whatever they claim. stolen technology from ussr anyway.

  • @starfieldryker5299
    @starfieldryker529911 ай бұрын

    correction: J20 just got updated with ws15 engines that rivals f119 and now can super cruise as well as a speculated top speed of mach 2.8. There are also double seater, drone commanding j20Bs with a redesigned canopy coming up in the future . I d say this is quite a potent aircraft with its range, electronics and weapon load regardless whether it is copied or not

  • @user-hd7np1du6p

    @user-hd7np1du6p

    11 ай бұрын

    J20BS,一看你就是中国人,国外不知道这个型号。

  • @k.k.c8670

    @k.k.c8670

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-hd7np1du6pI am abroad and know about the twin seat variant that could have second pilot manage loyal wingman drones.

  • @klein7381

    @klein7381

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@k.k.c8670Jesus, why you know us so lot?I just thought foreign are all arrogance that think us like the monkey who use the stolen tech.....I hope there are fewer people like you

  • @williamwilliam

    @williamwilliam

    11 ай бұрын

    Add in their loyal wingman drone and the combination is beyond anything that the West has. To test that out, the U.S.A should consider flying either their F-22 or F-35 a little closer to China's airspace and ignore their warning.

  • @TangoLima1

    @TangoLima1

    11 ай бұрын

    Moreover China has some very long range BVR missiles that out range the AMRAAM

  • @CarbideSix
    @CarbideSix11 ай бұрын

    We will let the Missile Guidance System decide if this jet is superior or not. After all, the missile knows where it is at all times because it knows where it isn’t.

  • @boldCactuslad

    @boldCactuslad

    11 ай бұрын

    the missile knows where it is because it knows where the satellites, igs, other missiles, sentry, jstar, and other fighters tell it where it is. hang on, that's just outsourcing of the same control theory basics!

  • @zollen123

    @zollen123

    11 ай бұрын

    If both jets have good stealth technology, they might have to get close enough to target each other.... dogfight!

  • @SlinkyTWF

    @SlinkyTWF

    11 ай бұрын

    @@zollen123 And if a furball erupts, the J20 loses to anything else in our inventory.

  • @Val_Killmore

    @Val_Killmore

    11 ай бұрын

    Obviously the superior stealth fighter is the one that has a turbo encabulator in it

  • @MilitaryBuff

    @MilitaryBuff

    11 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @danielwoodard3737
    @danielwoodard373711 ай бұрын

    I appreciate your recognizing that the Chinese manufacturing process is home-grown. As a former industrial engineer I am disappointed with US failure to put as much effort into manufacturing as we do into R&D or trying to boost stock prices. Moreover, I've worked with Chinese researchers, engineers, and medical professionals much of my life. The Chinese people I know get ahead because they are smart and work hard. If we assume they are less creative, imaginative or capable than we are, we are in for a shock.

  • @peterchan5817

    @peterchan5817

    11 ай бұрын

    so you are saying they're smarter than you and worked harder than you so they do better than you through out your career?

  • @alfeeman

    @alfeeman

    11 ай бұрын

    Chinese people are just hungry and focused more on work, work life balance is still relatively foreign concept, more like work is life. I don’t believe any race is smarter than others, if you do that probably means you are some what racist. There are 4 times more Chinese than Americans, and many of them work 1.5 times to 2 times harder based on hours put in and work habits, so it is natural the production capabilities are much higher

  • @davisklein5720

    @davisklein5720

    11 ай бұрын

    Is that why they steal everything from the USA military? Anybody can look smart with stolen technology

  • @Wodanazz

    @Wodanazz

    11 ай бұрын

    History has proven the Chinese lack the creativity and capacity for innovation and development, all of their modern technologies and advances are built off the back of pre-discovered tech. Even inventions attributed to them such as paper and blackpoweder aren't linked to the modern han-chinese (despite how much they claim it is) but were thanks to the ancient Chinese whom were mongol in origin, and even then when they apparently invented the compass it took decades for it to actually be used for navigation since the Chinese only used it for their "medicine"

  • @bobsbeans7002

    @bobsbeans7002

    11 ай бұрын

    If you possess the belief that all races are no smarter than each other then you're in for a peer-reviewed shock. As for China, it will do according to what the Chinese do best, raised in China or the US, for better or worse. I'll leave the rest to your judgement.

  • @whaleinblack
    @whaleinblack11 ай бұрын

    Actually right after this video, the new j20 with ws15 had its first flight, so I guess the figures for engine will need to be assessed again in the future.

  • @mitchellculberson9336
    @mitchellculberson933611 ай бұрын

    When the 117 was shot down in Yugoslavia by the Serbs.The Chinese went & paid for the wreckage & had it in their embassy & America bombed it "accidentally to try to get rid of the plane wreckage.They destroyed some but not all of it.

  • @riccccccardo

    @riccccccardo

    11 ай бұрын

    Crazy

  • @ljubastojanovic608

    @ljubastojanovic608

    11 ай бұрын

    On 7:20 You may see Sebian farmers and soldiers looking at what remained of F-117 shut down on fifth day of NATO - Serbian War started on March 24. 1999. Shut down by Russian missiles system created in early 60s combined with old type chinese radar. Seemed that F-117 was not invisible at all? "Sorry, we didnt know it was invisible" was Serbian reaction. After this war F-117 was put out of service, even this was first plain lost. Rumour was that some parts of this plain camed into Chinese hands. Bombing Chinese embassy "accindetally" by B-52 coming from USA teritory was ultimate idiotism and mistake Americans are still to pay.

  • @TheFarsideSon

    @TheFarsideSon

    11 ай бұрын

    The F-117 pilot and the Serb that shot him down later became best friends, it’s a wild story from beginning to end.

  • @Osprey980

    @Osprey980

    11 ай бұрын

    @@TheFarsideSon is there a video I could watch on it?

  • @mattt525

    @mattt525

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheFarsideSonI'd also love to hear the story!

  • @damianketcham
    @damianketcham11 ай бұрын

    I think it’s Cheng-du, not Cheng-dong. But anyway, if it breaks you can just take it back to Walmart even without the purchase receipt.

  • @eiennofantasy

    @eiennofantasy

    11 ай бұрын

    yea, but the mistakes makes it better imo :D

  • @NelankaPerera

    @NelankaPerera

    11 ай бұрын

    Said it twice wrong. Then he mispronounced Spratley islands as Spartly. Wtf, just learn to read and speak. Love the shows :)

  • @damianketcham

    @damianketcham

    11 ай бұрын

    @@NelankaPerera Lol!! Yeah. Maybe more proof reading. You’re right, it’s a great show though!!!

  • @AbuHajarAlBugatti

    @AbuHajarAlBugatti

    11 ай бұрын

    Whats that big talk though you guys couldn’t even beat china in 1950s in korea, nor managed to best the china supported Vietcong and PLA in Vietnam. And needed a coalition of over 10 countries helping to invade iraq who had no defenses against the air strikes. This is a real enemy this time. Lets see how quickly usa loses this time lol

  • @huwhitecavebeast1972

    @huwhitecavebeast1972

    11 ай бұрын

    Cappy can mispronounce anything.

  • @EloquentTroll
    @EloquentTroll11 ай бұрын

    As an Air Force veteran and computer programmer I can assure that some folks are deeply intrigued by battle management software, there is so much stuff to process and I am totally curious about those algorithms Cappy. Some nerds wore the uniform too.

  • @kalasend

    @kalasend

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm a Hong Konger. Frankly, I don't like the CCP regime. But I'm also an engineer by trade so I can't shake the objective self. China has a vast supply (demographic issue is for years later) of AI/ML engineers. They may not be top notch academics. But trust me, when it comes to implementation, headcount matters. This is also why the US is doing utmost to slow down China in advanced computing. Back to the topic though, if smart systems is what will win wars, yes, the US would be wise to worry.

  • @SuperSoliton

    @SuperSoliton

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@kalasendUS has nothing to worry about at all. China may not want to fooling around at the coast of California or gulf of Mexico like a thug on street.

  • @jackwang1238

    @jackwang1238

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@kalasend自讨没趣,看看别人怎么看待你们,你们这些蝗虫不喜欢中央政府可以随时移民啊!😂😊

  • @guangjunfan5711

    @guangjunfan5711

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SuperSoliton 美国肯定不担心中国会有侵犯北美洲的意图,但是如果您了解所谓的“海权”和“路权”的概念,再去随便搜搜目前美国所把控的重要海上通道的位置和数量,您就能够明白为什么美国想尽全力地遏制中国的发展了。在如今饼很难做大的情况下,老美想做的就是去把对手干掉,中国也不是第一个挑战者,苏联、欧盟、日本也曾挑战过,只不过他们的体量跟中国相对比都太小了。

  • @yanakal652

    @yanakal652

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@SuperSoliton then why did the us block them from getting advanced chips?

  • @markuc
    @markuc8 ай бұрын

    Information is a little out of date, the latest engines is WS-15 and allows for supersonic cruise and much better performance. They've been installed in the latest batch of planes and existing ones are being retrofitted...

  • @andrewfarrar741

    @andrewfarrar741

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing. 🤞🤞 we get those cloakable atomic fusion powered flying submarines up and running.

  • @SpadesNeil
    @SpadesNeil11 ай бұрын

    As I have said often, Russia doesn't scare me. _China_ scares me. China is trying to do everything right. The battle management system is a seriously big deal, and China is not ignorant to the need of logistics like Russia is.

  • @dickmelsonlupot7697

    @dickmelsonlupot7697

    11 ай бұрын

    which is what many people especially Westerners and specifically American do not understand since they keep having this "made in China = shhthtt" mentality. They will never understand that China is trying the best it can to be of top quality and are actually investing on it properly unlike Russia.

  • @753238

    @753238

    11 ай бұрын

    And China's AI is sentient.

  • @doobtom271

    @doobtom271

    11 ай бұрын

    if China is doing everything right and that you are scared. only means one thing about you.

  • @mr.t0xic100

    @mr.t0xic100

    11 ай бұрын

    Good thing their demographic is collapsing right now. If they don’t start correcting that, their industrial market will wither away very soon and they won’t have the economy to keep their military development and production up. Of course, this relies on them not resolving this issue and time, which we will see if they do anything while they still have the might

  • @C21H30O2

    @C21H30O2

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah but china's culture is based on almost entirely on corruption and cheating. I guarantee there will be serious quality issues with every weapons system they field.

  • @nates9105
    @nates910511 ай бұрын

    Well unless they refined the metal and had quality product I doubt extensive combat usage would lead to success or dominance. As shown repeatedly in Ukraine, and other conflicts, what matters is the equipment, repair support, and logistical capability of any armed force.

  • @chedabu

    @chedabu

    11 ай бұрын

    and training!!!

  • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

    @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

    11 ай бұрын

    @@chedabuyes, all of the above.

  • @myssadonno2759

    @myssadonno2759

    11 ай бұрын

    A fellow 'perun' follower?

  • @TheDethBringer666

    @TheDethBringer666

    11 ай бұрын

    Stuff they seem to have, unlike Russia's token inventory of 5th gens.

  • @elcormoran1

    @elcormoran1

    11 ай бұрын

    Like the mighty western tanks, right, or the Game changer weapons US send the ukranians

  • @rotfled
    @rotfled11 ай бұрын

    J20's are also just starting to get outfitted with completely indigenous WS-15 engines, which alleviates most of the issues with thrust and stealth compared to the older Russian AL-31 engines

  • @__daddy__

    @__daddy__

    11 ай бұрын

    The Russian AL-31 has long been replaced with indigenous WS-10. WS-15 is an upgrade to WS-10

  • @rotfled

    @rotfled

    11 ай бұрын

    @@__daddy__ yes but the WS-10 also had thrust issues and along with the AL-31 was a stopgap solution until the WS-15

  • @__daddy__

    @__daddy__

    11 ай бұрын

    @@rotfled yes. but still ws-10 is far better than AL-31

  • @bobsmith3983

    @bobsmith3983

    8 ай бұрын

    @@borrago Made in China of Chinese design.

  • @Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman

    @Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@borragoyes

  • @YagoWu-sg5bu
    @YagoWu-sg5bu3 ай бұрын

    This is ridiculous. We Chinese all know that J20 is just two J10s put together

  • @HarryPoggers44
    @HarryPoggers447 ай бұрын

    The j20 is essentially a somewhat stealthy missile truck with wings. It’s an interesting approach, have a plane that can fly longer, with a farther BVR range that can act like a defensive aggressor from long range. I’m not surprised by this approach though, china is well known for its accuracy by volume approach to war. Th j20 being able to carry more long range missiles tells me this guy will be used for deterrence and for striking HVTs by lobbing multiple missiles before the target can get in range of it to fire back. The f22 being much faster, having supercruise and a much better stealth cross section is a great counter to this though as it can sneak into range of the j20 with speed and stealth and strike that way. Also you have to remember that it is 100% possible for fighter jets to shoot down other fighter jets missiles. How difficult that is or if that can be done with smaller air to air missiles I’m not sure. Hopefully we won’t see the day where the US and china are at war. That will be terrible for everyone involved and will lead to hundreds of thousands dead if not millions. Woooo what a time to be alive 💀💀💀🙃

  • @XkMeng

    @XkMeng

    3 ай бұрын

    After replacing the ws15 engine, the speed of the j20 reached 52km/min, significantly exceeding the f22

  • @user-me4tj9re7m

    @user-me4tj9re7m

    2 ай бұрын

    Brother, your information is lagging behind. The current J-20 will crush the F22 in all parameters.

  • @majake-yd8ff

    @majake-yd8ff

    28 күн бұрын

    @@user-me4tj9re7min your dreams🤣if it’s true why Taiwan still a country 😢

  • @majake-yd8ff

    @majake-yd8ff

    28 күн бұрын

    @@XkMengws15 stealth Russia’s Al 31

  • @XkMeng

    @XkMeng

    28 күн бұрын

    @majake-yd8ff No, Taiwan is not recognized as a country by the United Nations and most countries, including your government. Unless you are a citizen of some small Pacific island nation. Taiwan is an autonomous region of China,Her nation name is also Republic of CHINA

  • @JD96893
    @JD9689311 ай бұрын

    stealth doesn't make an aircraft invisible, just very hard to get a lock on or keep lock. It'd likely look like something popping on and off your radar screen as the aspect changes and you get more or less radar return. Also as we know certain track radars can detect stealth aircraft, but lack the accuracy for a lock. They can detect it, so i highly doubt a J-20 flew over Taiwan without them noticing. It's probably more likely the pilot in question turned off his RWR, went super sonic, sped quickly over Taiwan(or likely one of their islands) and wasn't intercepted therefore says they didn't detect him because he doesn't really know. So technically he could say that. But ya, not true.

  • @oryxland3994

    @oryxland3994

    11 ай бұрын

    The part of overflying Taiwan without being detected is utter garbage. How much signal return you get from a stealth aircraft depends on the aspect your radar is towards the jet. Since the J-20's would have at some point flown over directly over the island Taiwan's air defense radars would at some point be looking almost directly up at the underside of the aircraft fuselage. That's one of the worst aspects for a stealth aircraft and generates some of the largest signal returns as it's a way bigger surface areas than looking at an aircraft from the front or rear. The Chinese aircraft were detected no doubt.

  • @ChinaVirus0604

    @ChinaVirus0604

    11 ай бұрын

    china is good at steal

  • @kongwee1978

    @kongwee1978

    11 ай бұрын

    @@oryxland3994 Too bad Taiwan can't detect J20 with their own radar too many times. Even if conventional like J11, Taiwan can't tell their flight path. All PLA does is jam all their radars.

  • @oryxland3994

    @oryxland3994

    11 ай бұрын

    @@kongwee1978 Yaaa the problem with that is jamming radars using airborne electronic assets tends to alert an air defense system that someone is in the area. As well it's not some sort of "jam radar now" magic button which renders any radar useless, you might have reduced range and reduced ability to identify the target. It will also cause any radar on side doing the jamming issues as well affecting their own aircrafts ability to acquire targets. If jamming a radar was as such a sure thing taking out enemy air defense systems wouldn't be one of the hardest and most dangerous missions for a combat aircraft.

  • @narrativegundam4710

    @narrativegundam4710

    11 ай бұрын

    WW won’t tell you anything 😂. None know H6K already flew surround the island before the reword news pumping out. You guys uses second even fourth hand information from several years ago to evaluate an new first rank fighter.😂 In your logic, why there wasn’t any infos from the U.S and 4V? Come on, get educated please.

  • @wicho617
    @wicho61711 ай бұрын

    That explains why Chinese had Stealth Suits while America had Stealth Boys only allowing you temporarily making you invincible. Referencing Fallout 3.

  • @ASlickNamedPimpback

    @ASlickNamedPimpback

    11 ай бұрын

    I thought you were referencing Final Fantasy 7, thanks for clarifying

  • @Bootymoneycreditsqaud

    @Bootymoneycreditsqaud

    11 ай бұрын

    That’s fallout new Vegas u jackazz

  • @jacobeii

    @jacobeii

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Bootymoneycreditsqaudthe Chinese suit in new Vegas doesn't even make you invisible, only the one in 3 does

  • @effexon

    @effexon

    11 ай бұрын

    games(as old as 1990s) have been disturbingly good at predicting major scale world events.

  • @ASlickNamedPimpback

    @ASlickNamedPimpback

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Bootymoneycreditsqaud unless you're being sarcastic, I am very annoyed that I have to inform you that NV is not, in fact, the source of all good Fallout things, and that the Stealth Suit originated in Fallout 3, and the normal stealth suit in NV can't even go invisible. Also, stealth boys have been a thing since fallout 1

  • @jannarkiewicz633
    @jannarkiewicz63311 ай бұрын

    I normally tune out commercials but I always take my wedding band off when I type (I write software for a live)... A stylish (cheap) silicon band could solve my biggest problem. Go Ridge!!!!

  • @ainzooalgown7589
    @ainzooalgown75898 ай бұрын

    the J20 engineers can probably make a cannon fit in place where one of the side missiles is placed, so not having a gun currently is probably not as big of a problem as most make it out to be, just like how Iran made a Surface to Air missile fire from F14. in war most engineers will figure out some innovative ways to make existing tech fit together even when they were designed to work together in the 1st place.

  • @roadblock7240
    @roadblock724011 ай бұрын

    Hey I love your channel it's great but one slight correction the f-35 B and C models don't come with a gun either they can be equipped with multi mission pods with GAU-22 cannon but they have no internal gun. Only the F-35 A the air force variant has one internally.

  • @mazharimam6827

    @mazharimam6827

    9 ай бұрын

    Very enlightening, thank you. I wonder if they also have mission pods for the J-20 where they could add a cannon if needed...

  • @hbtaxco6595
    @hbtaxco659511 ай бұрын

    When the China space station docks with supplies, no one doubt they can do anything.

  • @12time12

    @12time12

    11 ай бұрын

    They hacked JPL back in 2013 taking 600 GB of data from NASA.

  • @C-3POII45I4

    @C-3POII45I4

    11 ай бұрын

    Yah, the Chinese have successfully sent their probes to Mars and the moon, and have built their own space station. They also plan to land a man on the moon before 2030. Before China completes these feats, only the United States and the Soviet Union have achieved them, and many people have overlooked this.

  • @adamshilling170
    @adamshilling17011 ай бұрын

    I heard your channel mentioned on the podcast Lions led by Donkeys and was really glad to know they watched you as well. Always quality content!

  • @thomasD215
    @thomasD21511 ай бұрын

    Their helmets that let them see a 360° view probably looks like a RoboCop style helmet with a straight line going across😂

  • @Ronin.97
    @Ronin.9711 ай бұрын

    I honestly think battle management systems are really interesting and arguably one of the most important military developments for the future of warfare.

  • @schutendohkji548

    @schutendohkji548

    11 ай бұрын

    Future of Warfare? It was already invented by the Brits over the Channel, divided Island sectors, Central dispatch Cmd, ... etc. against Mao during WWII. The concept n implementation r archaic. Dahhh

  • @isbestlizard

    @isbestlizard

    11 ай бұрын

    Yesssssss we are literally building Skynet :D Well, two Skynets. USA and China will each have one. And obviously having humans in the loop would make their version inferior so...

  • @khairulhelmihashim2510

    @khairulhelmihashim2510

    11 ай бұрын

    with AI thrown in the equation, commanders can quickly work out multiple solutions to any new threat/problem/situation.

  • @mrzoinky5999

    @mrzoinky5999

    11 ай бұрын

    Drone swarms in the air , and spider-like drones, swarming ground defenses, is my pick for future warfare.

  • @asdefull

    @asdefull

    11 ай бұрын

    Basically the closer your actual military forces to rts games the better, theres a reason why drone spotting are so op in russia, they gave you (the commander) a real time view of the battle just like rts games. battle management system is like the unit icons on your rts screen, a good one will allow you to move the icons to attack, move, defend etc seamlessly without any lag or missinformation, just like an rts. Army with battle management system is fighting like an rts, while the army without are playing turn based, now you see why its op

  • @terryd7852
    @terryd785211 ай бұрын

    Apparently, the F-22 can operate higher than 60,000', but doesn't due to the need to wear an astronaut-style pressure suit at that height (ref: recent Ward Carroll KZread 'Deep Intel' video). Physics & biology suggests that this would be the same for any J-20 pilot.

  • @justinpaul3110

    @justinpaul3110

    11 ай бұрын

    I've heard that going above 60K is rough on the RAM.

  • @BasedF-15Pilot

    @BasedF-15Pilot

    11 ай бұрын

    This is correct.

  • @azerty97212

    @azerty97212

    8 ай бұрын

    Incredible

  • @ChrisZ901
    @ChrisZ90111 ай бұрын

    subscribed for your future update on J20 with the ws-15 engine

  • @georgekush8604
    @georgekush860411 ай бұрын

    There is an airport near Moscow called Zhukovsky International Airport, it houses 1 of 5 MIG 1.44 ever built. It also has a Tupolev Tu-144 and Sukhoi SU-47 Berkut. If you go back a few years there was also a Buran space shuttle.

  • @cheesytacos6498

    @cheesytacos6498

    11 ай бұрын

    Thats cool as hell

  • @stevemrayz357
    @stevemrayz35711 ай бұрын

    Very impressive considering their main frontline fighter until quite recently, was the MiG 21/ Chengdu J-7

  • @WackadoodleMalarkey

    @WackadoodleMalarkey

    11 ай бұрын

    The wife said I could get one of them _or_ an M777, but not both

  • @Michael-uf1hz

    @Michael-uf1hz

    11 ай бұрын

    It really is quite scary how rapidly they are advancing their military tech, but with the ccp taking a more dictitorial and strong arm approach its makes sense. It's one of the few things a communist system can do, mobilize assests to complete a common goal.

  • @jeffreylai6796

    @jeffreylai6796

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Michael-uf1hzits about time they try to catch up in military tech. They developed their economy first, so once the economy’s there it needs a stronger military to protect it, which in turn supported by a good economy.

  • @DIREWOLFx75

    @DIREWOLFx75

    11 ай бұрын

    "Very impressive considering their main frontline fighter until quite recently, was the MiG 21/ Chengdu J-7" Considering the started to massproduce their own versions of the Su-27 by the late 90s, uh, what? There's something like 2 thousand Su-27 derivatives in service by now in China. And over 210 J-20. That's more than USAs 197 F-22s. And China built those faster than USA built their F-22s.

  • @kurousagi8155

    @kurousagi8155

    11 ай бұрын

    @@DIREWOLFx75what are you talking about? 2,000 SU-27 derivatives? SU-35: 24 J-16: 245 SU-30MK2: 24 SU-30MKK: 76 J-11BH/BSH: 72 J-11B/BS: 270 J-11A: 200 J-15: 60 SU-27SK/UBK: 78 Total: 1,039, that’s airframes that China ever received until 2022, not operational or inventory figures. Inventory figure would be 893 (-100 J-11A and -46 SU-27SK/UBK). Edit: also the Chinese did not start serial production of the J-11B until 2007. The J-16 started aerial production in 2012. The J-11A, was a copy of the SU-27SK/UBK and weren’t produced in China. Those were kits produced by Russia and then shipped to China and assembled in China.

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop442111 ай бұрын

    Correction : the J20 is the largest 5th Gen fighter. The B2 bomber is the largest 5th Gen plane.

  • @hughmungus2760

    @hughmungus2760

    11 ай бұрын

    interestingly the J20 is actually lighter than the F22 due to more use of composites, meaning its actually quite agile for its size.

  • @mr.2minutes161

    @mr.2minutes161

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hughmungus2760 isnt it gonna be as heavy from carrying the massive amount of fuel for 3k something range? unless they dump it when needed. actually, i have no idea, im no fighter plane.

  • @gr6373

    @gr6373

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@mr.2minutes161Well apparently they did ditch the cannon

  • @testphone8379

    @testphone8379

    11 ай бұрын

    J20 uses 3D printed body, it is tons lighter than conveniently built planes.

  • @chengda85

    @chengda85

    11 ай бұрын

    isnt the su 57 larger tan J20?

  • @tipoomaster
    @tipoomaster5 ай бұрын

    Could you do a full video on India's options as China builds up its J20 inventory and even Pakistan is looking at the FC-31?

  • @gengiz
    @gengiz10 ай бұрын

    Gotta admit for a company that started in 1990 that’s quite amazing

  • @ace_of_laze
    @ace_of_laze11 ай бұрын

    i think its great, that PLC is building this jets and is showing off with their capabilities. even if its a bluff to an extend, it will motivate us to outperform them. just like what happened between USSR and NATO during the Cold War

  • @rabidspatula1013

    @rabidspatula1013

    11 ай бұрын

    Once the USAF unveils NGAD its going to be light years ahead for this very reason haha

  • @ace_of_laze

    @ace_of_laze

    11 ай бұрын

    @@rabidspatula1013 i am really not sure how realistic its gonna be. i am imagining, that true 6th gen will end up merging all the different projects within NATO + Japan to accomplish it. but hey, what do i know

  • @AbuHajarAlBugatti

    @AbuHajarAlBugatti

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah more War sounds awesome. Cant wait to hear the uselesss Duck…and cooveer Jingle on tv again

  • @thomaszhang3101

    @thomaszhang3101

    11 ай бұрын

    @@rabidspatula1013NGAD is set to begin low rate initial production in 2030, while the Chinese 6th gen is set to do that in 2035. So 5 years apart, both assuming no delays.

  • @T_bone

    @T_bone

    11 ай бұрын

    Most people don't realize this strategy is what actually bankrupted the USSR. China has avoided that by becoming experts in reverse engineering. They saved trillions by letting other countries do R&D and then scooping up parts whenever possible from conflicts around the world.

  • @l_fieldy6635
    @l_fieldy663511 ай бұрын

    I really like the J2O, they're very good, lots produced and of good quality. My favourite is the orange and passion fruit one 🤭

  • @lip124

    @lip124

    11 ай бұрын

    How do you know there is "good" cause apparently china is known for telling the truth? right🤣🤣.

  • @briancavanagh7048
    @briancavanagh704811 ай бұрын

    When you stated the “range” of the J20, F35 & F22, I believe you were stating “ferry range” but did not specify if that included drop tanks.

  • @m3017co
    @m3017co8 ай бұрын

    I for one would like to know how tight the tolerances are, but that would require seeing very very classified technical drawings. That says quite a bit about the ability of the aircraft to be stealthy.

  • @nnf9431
    @nnf943111 ай бұрын

    not sure how Chengdu turned into Chengdong lol

  • @brian13105
    @brian1310511 ай бұрын

    With the C. C. P. 's reputation for truthfulness I wouldn't totally believe them if they said it could get off the runway reliably

  • @woodchild2093

    @woodchild2093

    11 ай бұрын

    Well let's face it the US doesn't have the best track record for truth either

  • @itinnyi

    @itinnyi

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@woodchild2093 He doesn't care! China bad!

  • @olegshkurenko-0448

    @olegshkurenko-0448

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@woodchild2093better then the russians and the CCP tho

  • @senorbassoon4804

    @senorbassoon4804

    11 ай бұрын

    At least they didn’t lie about murdering thousands of students in tinamean square

  • @randomautonomousdronepilot3384

    @randomautonomousdronepilot3384

    11 ай бұрын

    @@woodchild2093the US publicizes each time a jet is damaged or has issues. China doesn’t

  • @buddermonger2000
    @buddermonger200011 ай бұрын

    5:38 It's less about the Americans not agreeing, but instead having learned from the F-4 Phantom (a fighter with no cannons), that a backup cannon is pretty necessary and so the cannons currently had are backup weapons in case everything else fails. Kind of like the pistols.

  • @jwickerszh

    @jwickerszh

    8 ай бұрын

    At the time of the F4 missiles were a lot less advanced than today, and if you have a platform meant to "snipe" from long distance a gun is just added weight.

  • @Blue_Doge
    @Blue_Doge11 ай бұрын

    China: “J20 is stealth” Canards: are you sure about that?

  • @lunarrocks4165
    @lunarrocks416511 ай бұрын

    5:10 fighters dont have guns nowadays because they need them for any sort of air-to-air combat. most guns are put in fighters are there so they can do strafing runs on ground targets and not have to waste air to ground ordnance

  • @markeasley6149

    @markeasley6149

    11 ай бұрын

    They don't have enough rounds to strafe. If they don't get engaged by standoff missiles, then jets can close and intercept each other quickly. Gun is there for last resort dogfight, but more than likely air to air missiles will do all the damage. Since both sides are stealth it is not far fetched to think they will close in on each other before they know the other is coming. If you only have long range weapons, you could get toasted.

  • @piotrd.4850

    @piotrd.4850

    11 ай бұрын

    With meager round supply and idea of putting crown jewel of electronics in range of simple aa guns and manpads....

  • @PrograError

    @PrograError

    11 ай бұрын

    Maybe ... But that's what they thought then in Vietnam... Before they raced to refit the cannons...

  • @yixinmei5854

    @yixinmei5854

    11 ай бұрын

    Actually J20 is now testing it's new gun.....

  • @AndreasGassner
    @AndreasGassner11 ай бұрын

    The problem is not the fighters but our high tech companies still going there.

  • @haldorasgirson9463

    @haldorasgirson9463

    11 ай бұрын

    I did a contract gig with a defense contractor. Chinese Nationals made up 10% of the engineering workforce. There was a pretense of information control (had to have a special "Born in the USA" badge to walk down certain aisles in the cubical farm, but that was a pretty weak barrier.

  • @peekaboopeekaboo1165

    @peekaboopeekaboo1165

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@haldorasgirson9463 Chinese nationals working for an American defense contractor ?!

  • @peterchan5817

    @peterchan5817

    11 ай бұрын

    @@haldorasgirson9463 chinazi nationals or chinese immigrants?

  • @shaun469

    @shaun469

    11 ай бұрын

    Then don't buy anything made in china. See how that goes for you

  • @rifqimujahid4907

    @rifqimujahid4907

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@peterchan5817i do t reacall chinese for having nazi movement, the neanderthall descents in the otherhand :/

  • @Gman909008
    @Gman9090087 ай бұрын

    Does anyone know what video game footage that is? AND @Task & Purpose Great video! Thank you! As always 🤷🏼‍♂️ lol. I am curious does anyone

  • @calvingifford9442
    @calvingifford944211 ай бұрын

    Another great video! BTW, would love to see a Tee Shirt with 'Cappy's Outpost' on the front AND 'Fubar & Grill' on the back.

  • @obsidianstatue
    @obsidianstatue11 ай бұрын

    1) physical size isn't directly linked to the radar cross section, B-2 bomber for eg is huge, but has a very small RCS. 2) J-20 isn't that much bigger than the F-22, it's only around 1.5 meters longer 3) Canards CAN be made stealthy, if its edges are aligned to the same angle as other controls surfaces of the aircraft, the J-20 certainly does have edge aligned canards. Overall Stealth isn't about being invisible, it's about disrupting the enemy missile lock-on process, and lower the PROBABILITY of being locked on and being hit.

  • @vietfrost

    @vietfrost

    11 ай бұрын

    1. B-2 bomber doesn't have canards and VERTICAL STABILIZERS. Big difference. Bad argument.

  • @marksouthcott6919

    @marksouthcott6919

    11 ай бұрын

    Eh, RF engineer here (not that saying that online really adds any credibility, cause you definitely know everything flamers say is true...) physical size is directly linked to RCS. Take two sheets of steel and measure the RCS, the bigger one will have the larger RCS. Coat both in RF absorbing materials and the larger sheet will still be larger. Shape them in stealthy shapes and the larger sheet will still have the larger RCS. Take the larger shaped and coated sheet and compare it to the unchanged smaller sheet and the physically smaller sheet will have the larger RCS. Physical size is directly linked to RCS, but it is not the only thing directly linked to RCS, nor the most impactful.

  • @alvinloh9068

    @alvinloh9068

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah right, why do you need canards? Oh cause the Chinese have no access to those cutting edge jet engines

  • @zebimicio5204

    @zebimicio5204

    11 ай бұрын

    @@alvinloh9068 canards are literally front flippers. Might as well say the f22 isnt stealthy because it has tail fins.

  • @alvinloh9068

    @alvinloh9068

    11 ай бұрын

    @@zebimicio5204 again, why do they need it? :)

  • @d3liverator579
    @d3liverator57911 ай бұрын

    Have to love seeing so often Digital Combat Simulator videos when talking about airplanes!

  • @TurboHappyCar

    @TurboHappyCar

    11 ай бұрын

    It makes for cool B-roll. 👍

  • @AnimeSunglasses
    @AnimeSunglasses11 ай бұрын

    12:25 ...do I hear a CHALLENGE? INTERNET ARTISTS, ASSEMBLE!

  • @DucaTech
    @DucaTech11 ай бұрын

    Are you going to make a video on their new FC-31 or J-35 stealth fighter jets?

  • @josehawking5293
    @josehawking529311 ай бұрын

    The F-22 and F-35’s stealth technology is at least a generation ahead of the F-117.🤔

  • @dwizzleusa4202

    @dwizzleusa4202

    11 ай бұрын

    2 generations ahead

  • @Maddog-xc2zv

    @Maddog-xc2zv

    11 ай бұрын

    @@dwizzleusa4202 3, since they're all three "5th gen" (just regarding the word stealth) with different advances normal to time/techonoly regular or at least standard evolution

  • @VectorGhost

    @VectorGhost

    11 ай бұрын

    3 generations

  • @hughmungus2760

    @hughmungus2760

    11 ай бұрын

    for all intents and purposes china knows the F35 as well as any of the F35's operators. The amount of data compromised on the project basically gave china the most complicated systems on the F35.

  • @Maddog-xc2zv

    @Maddog-xc2zv

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hughmungus2760 believe in propaganda all way you want. doing something gives you another knowledge than just copying it. but if it makes you happy...

  • @sweatybotfn9982
    @sweatybotfn998211 ай бұрын

    Stolen goods? Then they must be really bad at it because I don’t see anything that looks stolen, some similar features like the intakes, VS and weapon’s bay are standard designs for stealth fighters

  • @Emilechen

    @Emilechen

    11 ай бұрын

    even the shape of Chinese J-20 jet fighter is completely diffetent from F-22 and F-35,

  • @Alvyrre

    @Alvyrre

    11 ай бұрын

    like apples lawsuit against samsung in the past, rounded corners.

  • @sweatybotfn9982

    @sweatybotfn9982

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Alvyrre than it must be pretty round😂😅

  • @generalparker8889

    @generalparker8889

    9 күн бұрын

    Because some people think that only Westerners can develop advanced equipment. Maybe China's space station is also copied from the International Space Station, and Beidou is also copied from GPS. I am skeptical about the Americans' ability to keep secrets.

  • @sweatybotfn9982

    @sweatybotfn9982

    9 күн бұрын

    @@generalparker8889 well then in that case we can’t really be complaining about copying. It’s not like if there were international laws. If we can’t keep top secret information and they make their stuff better it’s on us

  • @henryfatchoi6404
    @henryfatchoi640410 ай бұрын

    Maximum weapon loading capacity: 11,000 kg (24,000 lb) 8×internal magazine hardpoints PL-10 short-range combat ammunition Thunderbolt-12 medium-range bomb PL-15 over-the-horizon long-range missile PL-21 long-range missile Thunderstone-6 Precision Guided Bomb 4×External Hardpoints

  • @kandd2591
    @kandd259111 ай бұрын

    time to find out if this turns into another f-4 phantom in vietnam or something similar what im talking about is that the f-4 wasnt originally built with a gun so once it ran out of missiles it was defensless and was often shot down so lets find out

  • @reer1877
    @reer187711 ай бұрын

    I just imagined the F-35 and the J-20 doing the equivalent of a rolling start drag race over the east china sea, and it was marvelous.

  • @mikedrop4421

    @mikedrop4421

    11 ай бұрын

    And while they are at top speed an F15 blows past them on the way back to base for dinner

  • @marioelburro1492

    @marioelburro1492

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mikedrop4421 dont forget the foxbat

  • @yuluoxianjun

    @yuluoxianjun

    11 ай бұрын

    it already happened last year.J-20 with the warning plane radar help,lock the F35 from 100KM far.and until J20 get clost near 20 KM,F35 still dont notice J20

  • @marioelburro1492

    @marioelburro1492

    11 ай бұрын

    @@yuluoxianjun seems intresting, any source so i can look into it?

  • @yuluoxianjun

    @yuluoxianjun

    11 ай бұрын

    @@marioelburro1492 2022.03.06.Kenneth Welsbach, Air Force Commander of the US Pacific Command, announced that the F-35 had met the J-20 for the first time in the East China Sea.

  • @KRawatXP2003
    @KRawatXP200311 ай бұрын

    To be frank they might have tech of 22 and 35. Might not on the top of the 5th gen fighters but then again having the knowledge of 5th gen of Americans jets helped a lot.

  • @ajaykumarsingh702

    @ajaykumarsingh702

    11 ай бұрын

    How ? Did the US sold its stealth jets to China ? Don't say they copied, because if they really did then you already lost the war. The US can't even keep its intel secured, it won't survive against China during a full scale war.

  • @nickloong
    @nickloong11 ай бұрын

    Everyone is hyping on stealth planes, while those balloons are cruising safely above doing their thing. Lol!😂

  • @leonardoguevara4968
    @leonardoguevara496811 ай бұрын

    Good complete revew !! 👌🏼

  • @gumnaamaadmi007
    @gumnaamaadmi00711 ай бұрын

    And here in India, the Army and Air Force make the defense OEMs jump through countless loops when something is built at home. All for the sweet $ that kickbacks bring. Being part of the import lobby rocks!

  • @wootle

    @wootle

    11 ай бұрын

    India in 2023: we want a new fighter and have selected 4 candidates India in 3023: we are examining the candidates and if they can set up a plant here India in 7023: we need more time to decide which one we want India in 9023: we will postpone this acquisition for now

  • @corvoattano4777

    @corvoattano4777

    11 ай бұрын

    There have been many blunders with indian armed forces when it comes to defence acquisitions. Not selecting the ak74 and going for a 5.56mm caliber rifle even though 99% of indian equipment was of indian origin , not selecting the rd33 engine for tejas even though it was being domestically produced. Spending billions on a project and then abandoning it for foreign equipment.

  • @boejiden7093

    @boejiden7093

    11 ай бұрын

    @@wootleindia in 203562: we’ll buy whatever Russia throws out

  • @shenanigans4177

    @shenanigans4177

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@corvoattano4777 Using a 5.56 caliber AK doesn't make sense. Especially when there are thick forests in the North, you need the penetration power of 7.62. Also it's know to work best against the jehadis. On the eastern border IA has been issuing battle rifles in the form of Sigs and probably soon the Ishapore rifle. When firing from one mountain top to another 7.62x54 works wonder. They only stupid thing they did is rejecting the Trichy rifle in favour of the Ak203, nobody's hitting targets over 200m with an AK, especially when IA still doesn't get the concept of optics even today. For mounts and everything, SSS defence already has a AK modernisation kit which is dope. Now coming to RD33, do you want your flight time to be of 15 minutes, because that's how much fuel Tejas can carry without droptanks.

  • @corvoattano4777

    @corvoattano4777

    11 ай бұрын

    @@shenanigans4177 Ak74 is chambered in 5.45x39 and it is extremely deadly. It was called poison bullet in Afghanistan. There is a video of Military arms channel comparing 762x51, 762x39, 5.56mm and 5.45x39 penetration powers and 5.45x39 penetrates the best. It is an extremely potent round better than 5.56mm. India could have easily license produced ak74 in the early 80s and not had to buy a new rifle every decade. rd33 is actually more fuel efficient than GE 5404.

  • @majesticface3631
    @majesticface363111 ай бұрын

    The f35 B and C also lack an onboard cannon, only the A has an integrated cannon. The B and C has optional stealth gun pods it could use though

  • @CrazyDutchguys

    @CrazyDutchguys

    11 ай бұрын

    if an F-35 gets within gunrange of an enemy aircraft something has gone VERY wrong, the same goes for any stealth fighter

  • @BadDadio

    @BadDadio

    11 ай бұрын

    Guns are worthless on a modern fighter. They only have them now because of the F4 fiasco, when guns were relevant.

  • @Ac1DMoDz

    @Ac1DMoDz

    11 ай бұрын

    Has it tho? Stealth vs Stealth = Back to Dogfighting, they won’t be able to see each other until they are closer.

  • @MostlyPennyCat

    @MostlyPennyCat

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Ac1DMoDz Only if they're equivalent. If it's Western Stealth Vs Eastern Stealth, Western sees first and shoots first.

  • @tylerrobbins8311

    @tylerrobbins8311

    11 ай бұрын

    Not really it really just comes down to F-35s being extreemly versitile. The standard A model is now diffrent than B or C it has to do with the role of them mission said F-35 will fulfill. Note and F-35C is able to match an SU-57 in stealth bombing all while staying smaller with a longer range. Both the F-35 and SU-57 carry more ordinances than the J-20.

  • @williamwilliam
    @williamwilliam11 ай бұрын

    One sure way to find out how the F-35 or J-22 will fare against the J-20 is to fly one right into China's airspace.

  • @TK199999
    @TK19999911 ай бұрын

    Umm stealth doesn't mean invisible to radar. It just means the radar return you give is not enough for a missile system to lock onto, be it air to air or surface to air. Most experts say the J-20 is designed from the ground up for frontal stealth. Meaning its basically an interceptor, not an air superiority fighter. That means its meant to intercept enemy bombers and strike aircraft at range with its missiles. Its frontal stealth allows it to get closer without being locked on to (not that it can't be seen by other aircraft) so it can fire its missile load. Once it fires off its missiles it retreats to land and do it all over again. This means it can't lotter on station and is a more one and done fighter. US stealth fighters have all around stealth, so they are meant for air superiority with the F-22/F-35 and ground attack missions in F-35 (thought in stealth mode the F-35's payload is small). This means they will attempt to drive off enemy fighters and suppress enemy ground base defenses. China's strategy is to try and overwhelm US aircraft and defenses with missile spam. Not unlike the Soviet Union's strategy against US airpower and defenses. The problem for China is that their ASEA radar are about as good as current Russian versions. Meaning they can't lock onto F-22/F-35 at range and have to get closer than Chinese doctrine allows. So right now Chinese doctrine is to missile spam to push away enemy stealth fighters. If that fails bring them in close enough for Chinese SAM systems to push them away. But that doesn't require enemy aircraft to be shot down or enemy defenses destroyed only pushed back and suppressed. The main problem for China now is their engine tech is still not mature enough so range and engine life is still quite low, though close to Russian engine tech. But the biggest problem for China is the B-21 Raider. We know because the amount of hacking and espionage attempts by China on the Raider program only match those on the NGAD....and possibly SpaceX rockets. This because the B-21 is meant to be undetected before and after it fires its payload. Meaning by the time a B-21 strike package is detected on Chinese radar or stuff starts blowing up and its already turned back to base. This is because modern US strike weapons are designed to be spammed at range and just as stealthy as the aircraft carrying them. The NGAD is supposedly to be just as hard to detect at range, like the B-21 have a next gen SABER II radar system, have celling of over 80,000 ft, it will have super cruise above Mach 2 and top speed approaching Mach 3 (like Mach 2.8). It will also be a big fighter probably the largest jet 'fighter' ever fielded by the USAF. With charactistics close-ish to the MiG-31, only with longer range, much better maneuverability, much heavier payload, advanced radar/data system allowing it function as a mini-AWACS and best stealth available to the US. But since its mean to be an air superiority fighter it will have very long lotter time on station with enough weapons to keep enemy air threats at bay.

  • @Myungbean
    @Myungbean11 ай бұрын

    I would say it's a respectable first attempt at stealth...but so far modeling indicates it doesn't even equal the F-117 in terms of its stealth...which is generally fine since it's primarily designed to just be able to get close enough to an AWACS to take it out from BVR.

  • @gravyd316

    @gravyd316

    11 ай бұрын

    If you're going after a AWACs you have to get past the aircraft that are linked to the plane. That's easier said than done considering the F-15E is more than the J-20 can handle. I wouldn't be surprised if the F-16 is more than the J-20 can handle. I think it's more of a show pony. It's strength would be at sea if American forces are crossing the Pacific.

  • @Myungbean

    @Myungbean

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gravyd316 Well, AWACS would still need to know which direction the J-20s are coming from to direct fighter screens for intercept. Stealth aspect would severely cut down on the range at which the AWACS could detect them, not to mention the range said fighter screen could get a High PK lock. As I said, they just need to get in range to engage with BVR then hightail it out of there. That thing is a boat and probably maneuvers like one, so I doubt they'd deliberately merge with fighters that can actually dogfight.

  • @EroticOnion23

    @EroticOnion23

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gravyd316 F15 & F16 are for losers, Russia Mig & Su shoot them down routinely...

  • @chrisbarr959

    @chrisbarr959

    11 ай бұрын

    It's probably comparable to a SU 57 due to the un-stealthy round exhaust and canards

  • @flossordie2256

    @flossordie2256

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Myungbeanthey be coming from China yo

  • @clocutron
    @clocutron11 ай бұрын

    Just recently discovered your channel and have now subscribed. I really like your detailed discussions of these topics and look forward to more from this channel. Thanks for your hard work in presenting such important and relevent content.

  • @_master1974
    @_master197411 ай бұрын

    Just 2 day after this video, j-20 with ws-15 was shown. It has the ability to reach up to mach 2.5 and the capability to super cruise.

  • @sinoleao

    @sinoleao

    11 ай бұрын

    j-20 with ws10c already has the capability to super cruise, but ws-15 gives the higher speed during super cruise

  • @tomlom69
    @tomlom698 ай бұрын

    Even if it isn't effective, it is beautiful. This and the Q-5 are gorgeous planes.

  • @BadDadio
    @BadDadio11 ай бұрын

    I’m curious about their coatings: what Mx is required between flights, temperature & age stability, etc. when panels are removed for other Mx, how long does it take to get back to stealth? Also, I’m skeptical of their engine performance. The Russian engines could never approach the west’s quality and performance

  • @jamesmaddison4546

    @jamesmaddison4546

    11 ай бұрын

    i know the answer to the materials used for ram coatings (im an aero engineer at Lockheed missile & fire control) BUT im not telling you Boris, or is it Ivan? Go tell putin that materials used, their ratios, application methods, is highly classified information but say you tried so it deserves at least half a chicken and some milk 🤣🤣

  • @buryitdeep
    @buryitdeep11 ай бұрын

    The fact that everyone just seems to accept China steals IP is worrying.

  • @dead-claudia

    @dead-claudia

    11 ай бұрын

    we kinda just accept the ccp's going to try even tho we all object strongly to it and take measures (often extraordinary) to stop them from succeeding it's like accepting that a psychopathic serial killer will try to murder people - everyone agrees it's shitty but it's going to happen no matter how much we wish they wouldn't

  • @jetli740

    @jetli740

    11 ай бұрын

    j20 is stolen technology from usa whhich they never have tbh j20 look like no other jet

  • @tomte47

    @tomte47

    11 ай бұрын

    You don't think The U.S is doing everything it can to steal Chinese military secrets ?

  • @VashtheStampede007

    @VashtheStampede007

    3 ай бұрын

    Just propaganda to smear without actual evidence

  • @tombrunila2695
    @tombrunila269511 ай бұрын

    Designing a stealth fighter is difficult as stealth is not only the shape of the airframe! Everything that is under the skin has also to be considered and made stealthy. The there is the building of the airframe. It is very difficult and requires major improvements in manufacturing technology, skilla and practices. And the there is the electronics, that are extremely difficult to design and manufacture.

  • @lasselen9448
    @lasselen944811 ай бұрын

    Well, any RTS or FPS player worth their salt know how vital information is in combat. It's no surprise it applies to real life as well and multiple countries make it their priority. One day, we may end up with unarmed stealth scout (drone?) aircraft locking on targets for ground- and air-based launchers hundreds of km away.

  • @josephtaylor6285
    @josephtaylor628511 ай бұрын

    Chris Cappy, your self deprecating humor, subtle irony and deeper knowledge of your subject than the average non infantryman makes this one of my favourite sites. You and Artur Rehi should do a segment together at some point.

  • @libfab1
    @libfab111 ай бұрын

    Of the F-35's only the A version flown by the AF has an internal gun. The B's and C's don't.

  • @tomlobos2871
    @tomlobos28717 ай бұрын

    i take technical data sheets with a grain of salt. sometimes it overstates, in other cases its a rough underestimation. my opinion on it is this scale and it will narrow down by time.

  • @linlaobei1
    @linlaobei110 ай бұрын

    The new movie - ‘Retribution’ can tell you where is the US real threat from ? It’s from ‘internal’~

  • @tomt810
    @tomt81011 ай бұрын

    You'd think a company that could make super modern stealth technology could keep the dang stuff secret...

  • @rodgemic

    @rodgemic

    11 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately they do a lot of work with colleges and a lot of the stuff they use is developed at colleges and a lot of professors are sellouts seems like every year or two there's at least one big news article about some Professor selling to China

  • @tonysu8860

    @tonysu8860

    11 ай бұрын

    Of course all that stealth technology is in full view of the world all the time including adversaries.

  • @daiakunin
    @daiakunin11 ай бұрын

    There's only one way to settle this debate: leak classified j-20 documents on the war thunder forums.

  • @yuluoxianjun

    @yuluoxianjun

    11 ай бұрын

    F35 already😅

  • @sidmiewar

    @sidmiewar

    11 ай бұрын

    the banhammer IRL on this very matter would be permanently

  • @C-3POII45I4
    @C-3POII45I411 ай бұрын

    In fact, when people mock the quality issues of Chinese manufacturing, they do not realize how long the world market has been occupied by Chinese manufacturing. Many of our daily necessities and electronic products are made in China, and they may mock one or two extremely cheap products with poor quality, but more products are selectively ignored because most of the products produced by well-known manufacturers and companies are of completely qualified quality, But before these products have quality problems, people will never notice that they are even made in China. I mean’s. when the market is full of Chinese made products, the number of quality problems in Chinese products will naturally increase. However, compared to the large scale of Chinese made products, this proportion is very small, but Chinese made products can occupy the market, It indicates that under the operating laws of the free market, it can withstand tests. So, looking at everything in your own homes, how much is produced in the United States and Europe? I think many of the items in your home that have been in use for a while are made in China, as well as some come from Vietnam and other Southeast Asian countries. Even if many products are not made in China, you will find many parts from China after opening them, and you will not complain about the quality of these junk items from China until you know that they come from China. Just like the US military recently complained that some parts of the F35 fighter jet came from China. But these are not the key points. The key point is how many Made in USA products you have, and do you really think they can withstand the test?

  • @tonysu8860
    @tonysu88602 ай бұрын

    The J-20 had been equipped with much larger and more powerful WS-15 engine before this video was published. As for overall J-20 capability, it's probably noteworthy that the US hasn't accelerated its NGAD production schedule and at least publicly continues to delay start of oroduction, unstead preferring to do some minor upgrades to its F-22 and selling and upgrading Taiwan the latest F-16V. That's effectively thumbing its nose at the J-22.

  • @lisa-azrabroad4137
    @lisa-azrabroad413711 ай бұрын

    I think 'cheap inferior Chinese copies' may not apply anymore and Russia may no longer be the biggest air threat to the US monopoly

  • @Pandahhhhhhhh

    @Pandahhhhhhhh

    11 ай бұрын

    Depends sometimes. They screwed the Russians with crap military tires during the beginning invasion of Ukraine

  • @tylerrobbins8311

    @tylerrobbins8311

    11 ай бұрын

    😂 These Chinese planes uses twin mig 86 engines. They are cheap knock offs at best. Keep in mind Russia owns China due to the fact China relies on Russian engineers to even regulate their planes. The SU-57 is a tad bit better than the F-22 and both are marginally better in theory to an F-35 in dog fighting. But all of this is irrelevant due to F-35s far out doing either plain in BVR combat, oh and there are 650+ F-35s vs the 16 SU-57s. The J-20 is utter trash compared to all of them especially considering it is not even capable of dog fighting. Let alone the fact the F-35 is able to fly higher, faster, and has nearly double the effect range on BVR. And none of that even touches the stealth factor.

  • @cookiecola5852

    @cookiecola5852

    11 ай бұрын

    @@tylerrobbins8311 hold on there mate😅 Russia is pretty good on deceiving rival, whatever Russia claim their equipment can do is a ploy to be a sheep in a wolf clothing, to be seen as tougher then reality Russia always exaggerate military stats Tho China is decades behind U.S, Russia is the turtle in the race of innovating new fighter jets Its pretty hard to evaluate any Russian military capability, like its Russian so crap maintance and poor training is hard to exclude in any evaluation with Russia since Russia’s NEWER military equipment beside from missile / missile system and small arms isnt sold globally

  • @nmslnesses

    @nmslnesses

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@tylerrobbins8311they are good at stealing, maybe they already got US designs

  • @tylerrobbins8311

    @tylerrobbins8311

    11 ай бұрын

    @@nmslnesses Even if they do it's not going to fix how bad they are at implimenting and innovation.

  • @hillbillyangle
    @hillbillyangle11 ай бұрын

    It's funny to watch how the host wants to acknowledge China's technological advancement, but have to throw in some negative connotations at the same time to keep his hardcore fans interested...lol...nonetheless, great video!

  • @donkey459

    @donkey459

    11 ай бұрын

    Wumao

  • @hillbillyangle

    @hillbillyangle

    11 ай бұрын

    @@donkey459 Lvwa

  • @Wvk5zc

    @Wvk5zc

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@donkey459as if it's a bad thing 😂😂😂

  • @Star-oe7gv
    @Star-oe7gv9 ай бұрын

    I do like the J-20 but my heart will always be with the F-22 and the F-35 on how powerful, longevity and iconic those Fighter Jets are and I even have built scale models of them and also I have a toy of them as well.

  • @Vladimirputin11111

    @Vladimirputin11111

    6 ай бұрын

    But USA rarely uses F-22...

  • @donaldcarey114
    @donaldcarey11411 ай бұрын

    The F-4 Phantom originally lacked a gun. Combat experience quickly proved that was a bad choice and the later F-4E had a gun.

  • @chrishansmatthews6260
    @chrishansmatthews626011 ай бұрын

    china is trying to avoid the "last 10% of capability uses half the budget" in my opinion but its hard to say if they are close enough in capability .

  • @wedmunds

    @wedmunds

    8 ай бұрын

    Having the numbers is a big part of capability.

  • @Notme012
    @Notme01211 ай бұрын

    It’s not cheating it’s stealing😂

  • @EroticOnion23

    @EroticOnion23

    11 ай бұрын

    I mean, the US wouldn't even exist without stealing Chinese guns/gunpowder to wipe out the natives, amirite??...😅

  • @oghidden

    @oghidden

    11 ай бұрын

    @@EroticOnion23 It had already been around for 9 centuries. Gunpowder was procured through domestic production and trade at that point.

  • @northern_21

    @northern_21

    11 ай бұрын

    @@EroticOnion23 Did you word this wrong? You make it seem like the US stole gunpowder from the Chinese, gunpowder was already in Europe during the 13th century, well before the founding of the US.

  • @angrydoggy9170

    @angrydoggy9170

    11 ай бұрын

    @@EroticOnion23 Guns aren’t a Chinese invention and gunpowder was copied centuries before the US was a thing.

  • @user-jp2tf5fj5k

    @user-jp2tf5fj5k

    11 ай бұрын

    @@EroticOnion23 lol, they stole the land from Indians~~

  • @memelephant
    @memelephant11 ай бұрын

    The marine and naval variants of the F-35 do not have internal cannons, only the A model

  • @jimmylam9846
    @jimmylam984611 ай бұрын

    China has the better wind tunnel JF-12 than what the US has. That was the reason why US failed in hypersonic Mach 8 missiles testing 8 / 9 times. China has new a JF-22 WT could simulate Mach 30 missile......special D to Washington DC in 10 minutes.

  • @ericrodriguez7423
    @ericrodriguez742311 ай бұрын

    I hope you do a video on the Wagner coup, I’m really going to enjoy it!

  • @Taskandpurpose

    @Taskandpurpose

    11 ай бұрын

    planning to post the Wagner coup video tomorrow !

  • @soumyajitsingha9614
    @soumyajitsingha961411 ай бұрын

    Actually even 4.5 gen jets use AESA radar as well like F 16 of Air National Guard has been upgraded with AESA radar so does aircraft like Rafale Tejas etc has AESA radar

  • @tercel9710

    @tercel9710

    11 ай бұрын

    Since when does the tejas have functioning AESA radar?

  • @soumyajitsingha9614

    @soumyajitsingha9614

    11 ай бұрын

    @@tercel9710 The Mk 1A has been equipped with the Indian developed AESA radar the Uttam AESA radar go search it up it has completed all flight testing and will soon be integrated in production Tejas Mk 1A s

  • @ajaykumarsingh702

    @ajaykumarsingh702

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@soumyajitsingha9614 DRDO has failed to develop the Uttam radar. You are out of the loop.

  • @bibbr4137
    @bibbr41379 ай бұрын

    5:20 i think this is a common concept in chinese fighters. jf 17 has a downward slanting gun which is more suited for atg thn ata, and j10 lso has that too i think

  • @Optmatic
    @Optmatic3 ай бұрын

    J-20 is designed based on J-9-VI-II program which was way back in the 70s. This guys said shit without actually knowing anything.

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard11 ай бұрын

    J-20 is pretty cute and has nice curves on its back but isn't as cute as F-22 so I think america still has the edge

  • @gtifighter

    @gtifighter

    11 ай бұрын

    how many air to air engagements did the F-22 have during the duration of its service?

  • @alvinloh9068

    @alvinloh9068

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gtifighterWhy don't you look it up online?

  • @ARUNMANOJ86
    @ARUNMANOJ8611 ай бұрын

    just for reference JF's engines have a realworld use of under 80 hours yes look it up under fuking 80 before they need to be pulled in for service and they have to be completely replaced after 200 hours of flight time.. F35s engine life is roughlye 2500 hours of flight time beofre tier 1 repairs .. ithink rest is classified.

  • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

    @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

    11 ай бұрын

    That’s still way better than the WWII era German jets engine endurance, which was usually under 10 hours.

  • @nicholasbrown668

    @nicholasbrown668

    11 ай бұрын

    source

  • @ARUNMANOJ86

    @ARUNMANOJ86

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@nicholasbrown668 well there are nations who have bought JF-17 you can look that up.. JF-20 no one wants.. even Pakistan dont want chinese engine they prefer Russian RD-series..in short American and European engines are way more reliable fuel efficient and have long service life like in somecases more than 10x.. calling russia and china near peer enemies is only technically correct in reality they are decades behind in a lot of areas.. after this ukraine conflict exposed russian equipments.. my country is slowly tryign to get rid of russian stuff and get more french stuff.

  • @nicholasbrown668

    @nicholasbrown668

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ARUNMANOJ86 so in other words. source: I made it the fuck up thanks for clearing up your sources

  • @JA-pn4ji

    @JA-pn4ji

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ARUNMANOJ86 The JF uses Russian engines, no?

  • @DGZwiro
    @DGZwiro11 ай бұрын

    Haha! Got ya! I'm here mainly to listen about software battles! Which by the way, really is underestimated topic. BMS are probably most important nowadays, not only in warplanes, but land and sea units also.

  • @thomaspinney4020
    @thomaspinney402011 ай бұрын

    Stealth is the current flavor of choice for aircraft which comes at a significant cost. F-35 pilots consistently report the biggest advantage they have is the greatly enhanced situational awareness including battle management. So far the F-35 has done quite well in combat operations in the Middle East, mostly by an unnamed small country in that region.

  • @backpackpepelon3867

    @backpackpepelon3867

    10 ай бұрын

    @@cynicalsuka2463 those deadly Palestinian homemade AA systems can rivals Patriots you know 😂

  • @guillermoelenes4310

    @guillermoelenes4310

    10 ай бұрын

    With no air defense you can do whatever you want

  • @MrRedsjack

    @MrRedsjack

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@cynicalsuka2463 they operated in Syria where the Russians have deployed S400 and S300 AA systems.

  • @user-lp7iq4gd6n

    @user-lp7iq4gd6n

    9 ай бұрын

    正如我国网友所说,跑去阿富汗炸了一台卡车就是战斗经验或者是实战经验😂哈哈哈,这个是不用五代机,日本三菱的0式也可以完成

  • @ssdhusg6042

    @ssdhusg6042

    8 ай бұрын

    To deal with some small and poor countries that have no power to restrain themselves. I don't know what fighter can't do that.😂

  • @theguy8412
    @theguy841211 ай бұрын

    You forgot to mention, China is reportedly already producing the WS-15 which is going to be the main J20 engine as they have solved or partially solved the supply chain issue for the alloys needed for the engines. soon I imagine j20s will them will start appearing and then it'll become officially the best jet fighter in the world... Additionally, by late next year we're expecting to see the J20(b) variant, the J20 dual passenger variant (maybe 2025 though), and the J35 which is going to be the carrier launched 5th generation fighter from China.

  • @Maddog-xc2zv

    @Maddog-xc2zv

    11 ай бұрын

    how's it's 6th gen r&d going? oh, wait...

  • @theguy8412

    @theguy8412

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Maddog-xc2zv first test platform is going to be the j20 2 seater

  • @Maddog-xc2zv

    @Maddog-xc2zv

    11 ай бұрын

    @@theguy8412 yeah, they don't have a project yet. For how long are the US are working on both NGAD programmes? I'd say they may, say maybe may, be much more advanced on those systems already than the Chinese... No?...

  • @carlef506

    @carlef506

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Maddog-xc2zvOf course, China has its own six-generation machine plan. China's usual practice is to serve one generation, develop one generation, and pre-research one generation. We're not going to talk about the development process in a big way, and maybe you won't know what it's like until it first flies.

  • @hughmungus2760

    @hughmungus2760

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Maddog-xc2zv as far as public knowledge goes china is going down a different path of development for 6th gen. Instead of 300 million dollar super planes that you can't afford to lose, china is building unmanned stealth platforms that are stealthy enough to be a serious threat in the sky but cheap enough to be sacrificed in battle.

  • @vorlonzevatron7142
    @vorlonzevatron714211 ай бұрын

    J20 operates with drones which further extends its range and can act as decoys if necessary.

  • @torsenu
    @torsenu8 ай бұрын

    Chinese balloon 🎈 was in the the Canadian and American sky for more than 3 days and you even notice that 😂😂😂

  • @tasosbakoulis811
    @tasosbakoulis81111 ай бұрын

    China didnt copy merkava tank and prigozin yet.

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire

    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire

    11 ай бұрын

    Probably for the best they didn’t copy Prigozin… Chinese Wagner would probably march up to Bejing’s doorstep within a few days if China kicks them around too much like the MOD did.

  • @dixieduffy7

    @dixieduffy7

    11 ай бұрын

    Key word is yet.

  • @BravoCheesecake
    @BravoCheesecake11 ай бұрын

    The J-20 is a sad mix of stolen technology that lacks purpose and a dedicated role. It's not sure if it wants to a joint strike fighter or an air superiority platform. You don't put canards on a stealth fighter and you don't need an EOTS on one either. The problem with most of their bootleg western technology is that it is created without a fundamental understanding of the functionality behind the designs. Their engines are under powered, the angles are all retroreflectors for radar and the radar absorbent material is scuffed.

  • @KungFuWizardOfJesus

    @KungFuWizardOfJesus

    11 ай бұрын

    Ok Mr armchair expert 😂

  • @PigeonHoot

    @PigeonHoot

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@KungFuWizardOfJesushe is correct, the designs were stolen from the US in Canada.

  • @KungFuWizardOfJesus

    @KungFuWizardOfJesus

    11 ай бұрын

    @@PigeonHoot ‘engines are underpowered’ and ‘radar absorbent material is scuffed’. Unless he is an engineer on the J 20 programme he can keep his mouth shut lol.

  • @toufiqmusah6480

    @toufiqmusah6480

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@PigeonHootbig fan of American military engineering here.. but don't forget that the U.S also steals technology.

  • @ChucksSEADnDEAD

    @ChucksSEADnDEAD

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@KungFuWizardOfJesus the underpowered engines is a result of them buying Russian engines until their domestic engine was in full production. One doesn't have to be an engineer, the specs of those engines are public because they can be purchased.

  • @doublechicane7008
    @doublechicane70088 ай бұрын

    Mr Cappy there was an interesting interaction recently with a Canadian plane with politicians and media on board. The plane was intercepted by a Chinese fighter jet that does not look like the J-20. If you could elaborate on this incident on a video i would thumbs up it for sure.

  • @user-vc9ci8jh5x

    @user-vc9ci8jh5x

    6 ай бұрын

    J-10c

  • @NANA-mi4mm
    @NANA-mi4mm11 ай бұрын

    For most people who doesn't know that J-20 is designed based on J-9-VI-II program which stated in 70s and cancelled in 1980, and the design of it is earlier than Mig1.44. You can just google J-9-VI-II for more info

  • @qwang22

    @qwang22

    11 ай бұрын

    The blogger is not professional and blindly emphasizes Chinese theft, just like a person in the class who works hard and catches up with you, and you suspect him of cheating. Of course, if anyone else believes in China's theft technology, why did South Korea obtain permission from the United States to directly "copy" homework but only develop a fourth and a half generation KF21 fighter jet🤣