Man, I "love" how the studio kept on spazzing out about how they sought inspiration from other games. Not once did they think to be inspired by Dead Rising 1 & 2.

@CasualREDACTED

4 жыл бұрын

they did say they were taking inspiration from it at one point(not in this video though), but when I played the game i didn't see anything that reminded me of the past games. I had a problem with Frank comboing weapons on the fly and the vehicle made me go, "how the fuck did you do that without a blow torch" i understand that this was a mechanic in 3 but it made sense in 3 because Nick was a mechanic and had most of what he needed on him. I used video game logic for most of the stupid shit in 3, but 4 i couldn't even use game logic for that sometimes

@aoiminase

4 жыл бұрын

James Mercer it’s better the maintenance room like for chuck & frank

@dezouza8996

4 жыл бұрын

I love how blie castle made a master piece as a random studio with only deadrising 1 to go off of and after deadrising 3 they just started trying to inject random things into the franchise just for capcom japan to be like; what the fuck are you doing, stop that.

@landrylongacre6391

4 жыл бұрын

I miss survivors being able to become undead.

@fernie-fernandez

4 жыл бұрын

vonBelfry Should I mentioned Silent Hill’s developers from Origins to Downpour copies too many elements of SH itself...!?

Capcom: Make Dead Rising. Vancouver: Make the Last of Us, got it. Capcom: No, Dead Rising. Vancouver: Assassin's Creed, will do. Capcom: Dead Rising Vancouver: Batman? Uncharted? You mean GTA? Capcom: Make Dead Rising or you're all fired. Vancouver: Oh, of course. Dark Souls!

@raulrojas9253

4 жыл бұрын

wait what Seriously? I didn t pay attention.

@trevor0245

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly it seems a bit of a shame some of those projects didn’t work out, they seemed to have some pretty interesting ideas.

@Gamermario-lb3rq

4 жыл бұрын

I mean to be fair Capcom Japan was also in the wrong for not caring about what Capcom Vancouver was doing until it was too late. Seriously a lot of time, money, and talent was wasted because of them. Employees that cared about Dead Rising were fired for their negligence.

@Clouds12012

4 жыл бұрын

@Hurr so true lol

@DrDemonq8

4 жыл бұрын

@@trevor0245 judging from the work they did on DR3 and 4, those games would've probably sucked, talk is cheap

It seems that none of the directors wanted to make a Dead Rising game... I mean, that guy from Ubisoft wanted to make Assassin's Creed: Zombies!

@neockwon2099

4 жыл бұрын

I mean..... Dying Light is great

@alicannonfodderfun8596

4 жыл бұрын

It’s all he knew damnit.

@souchoysaeteurn5211

4 жыл бұрын

@@neockwon2099 dying light is a good game but it isn't dead rising is it?

@DrDemonq8

4 жыл бұрын

Ubisoft in a nutshell

@shishaceo5204

4 жыл бұрын

Parkour in a zombie game is dope tho

They didn't bring back Frank West in Dead Rising 4. The Main Character you play as is Hank East

@jojojojo4332

4 жыл бұрын

Hans oost, if hes german

@shishaceo5204

4 жыл бұрын

Hank East made me laugh hard it was so stupid lol

@samireland54

4 жыл бұрын

I get this

@BloodRedFox2008

4 жыл бұрын

When playing DR4 I had a strong feeling they were really trying to make Frank into a character Bruce Campbell might play but without the charm Campbell brings to the table.

@bluespaceman7937

4 жыл бұрын

Sigh.

I remember one of my brother's Facebook friends posted a picture of the Capcom Vancouver lobby and said how excited he was to start his career there...makes me kinda sad thinking of it now

@magapiff1

4 жыл бұрын

man that sucks, hope they found another developer to work for before Vancouver went under

@landrylongacre6391

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Bell if so where does he live? I would love to know for... reasons, totally not murder, totally.

@GodChaos333

2 жыл бұрын

@@landrylongacre6391 did you not pay attention to the video. Only the higher up executives making stupid decisions. Is the reason the game was bad. The workers did they best they could. While the executives wanted to make Dark Souls and Last of Us dead rising

@landrylongacre6391

2 жыл бұрын

@@GodChaos333 it’s a joke my dude

@Spit1990

2 жыл бұрын

@@landrylongacre6391 ah, I remember those.

Wait, so while Vancouver is barely able to get Dead Rising 4 made, they’re six months behind and can’t really complete it, they’re pitching a Dino Crisis and Resident Evil reboot AND Dead Rising 5? Definitely smells of bad management.

@davidgigauri2512

4 жыл бұрын

I'm itching for a dead rising 5 But after dead rising 4? I cant say I'm not concerned

@-kold

4 жыл бұрын

@Adofo the lead director for dr4 ,joe knickolls , worked at EA before dr4, after capcom vancouver shutdown, the little maggot slithered his way back to ea

@AbuHajarAlBugatti

4 жыл бұрын

@@-kold maybe all a plan by EA to destroy income for Capcom

@ItsIntelligentDesign

4 жыл бұрын

This isn’t as uncommon in the industry as you might think, especially for studios owned by larger companies. If you don’t always have another game ready to spin up as development on your current project ends you risk reduced budgets, restructuring (aka employees being asked/forced to move to other studios), layoffs or just being closed outright

@Deliveredmean42

4 жыл бұрын

Just imagine if the company was still alive and made those instead of a well known developer that will make the wonderful resident evil 2 remake. Good lordly.

As a die hard Dead Rising fan, I was so dissapointed in the game and immediately had to declare that the only reason a studio could make so many mistakes had to be because it was either rushed or that it was some inner turmoil. I'm glad and also sad to see that I was right. I would love to see a more dense and tighter packed Dead Rising 5 that wouldn't rely on nostalgia to try to push/reboot the franchise forward. Sadly, this great franchise ended on a sour and flat note :(

@AGrayPhantom

4 жыл бұрын

It baffles me when you have a winning franchise with a large fanbase, but then higher-ups want to make a completely different game based on other, completely different games, with a fraction of the budget and time.

@samireland54

4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed dead rising 4 a lot when it came out but as time went on, I realized that 4 didn’t feel the same as the first 3. Sure dead rising 4 was kind of a step up In terms of mechanics and visual design but it lacked the charm that 1, 2 and 3 had. I really hope a developer picks it up one day and brings it back

@strikeforce1500

4 жыл бұрын

@@AGrayPhantom yep, that's a lot of corporate higher ups that are so deep in their ass that don't see their own products and want to copy the others. Remember when everyone tried to copy CoD? Or now when everything has to have BR?

@Infradead

4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry friend, it'll be back. There's a lot of money in this IP. I have no doubt Dead Rising 5 will happen, disregard 4 in a tongue in cheek way abs get back to what made the series so great in the first place.

@nathanlevesque7812

4 жыл бұрын

It's mixed at best. There's only one truly great title in it.

I wasn't of anyone interviewed, but as a hardcore DR fan before working there(hired after Capcom Japan stepped in to steer it), the final few builds showed amazing potential to be the sequel everyone deserved and I looked forward to every week's studio playtest. Understandably too little too late. CJ was extremely kind, bowing to all of us at the closure. Spectacular team on the ground that could of done wonders with the right leadership, glad everyone found work after. Hope CJ returns to this series some day! Nice to see some of the many amazing cancelled projects here too.

@cannonfodder4000

4 жыл бұрын

people should upbote this more, good insight and i wish you the best in the future mate

@jakefrench3015

3 жыл бұрын

This comment right here hits me right in the feels

@freddygarcia1434

2 жыл бұрын

"All you had to do was monitor the damn team, CJ"

@friendofp.24

10 ай бұрын

Shit, it's like walking through a boulevard of broken dreams here.

@paulakroy2635

Күн бұрын

How do you feel now

"creative" directors that kept copying concepts from other games and having massive ego trips destroyed the Studio. Its painful listening to this.

@gingeetheginge6071

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr!? Blood borne style combat in a dead rising game? Wtf were they thinking?

@greenscreencarcrash

4 жыл бұрын

reminds me a lot of a certain fps

@rachelamber3505

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly i cant understand why executive's would keep messing with the ingredients of the game if they didn't want to make dead rising. They shouldn't have signed on for the position in the studio or ponyed up to capcom japan and said we want to make something different. Ps. Do all of you just imagine the executives in like a simi dark office in suits sitting on leather furniture waiting for the devs to bring them ideas and Concepts?

@peterdafox

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair the last of us game was before last of us came out.

@Abel-Alvarez

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterdafox and most likely would've been easily forgotten.

Ahh, Dead Rising. Played the Demo hundreds of times. Pre-ordered it. Took the day off college to play it, and it immediately red-ringed my 360 for the first time. Good times.

@jimster1111

4 жыл бұрын

same. i got the red ring on the title screen. this was the 4th time i had to send my xbox into microsoft for repairs in a year. they finally just told me to fuck off and pay 100$ if i want them to refurbish my 360 again.

@twinkie415

4 жыл бұрын

F

@SolarMechanic

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimster1111 Ouch. I think mine red-ringed 4 times before I bought the Slim model. DR was the first and it happened on the helicopter ride intro. Crushing. The second time was, bizarrely, the Just Cause 2 demo. Can't remember the others. I often wonder if there's a surviving, first run 360 out there, somewhere.

@rigistroni

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimster1111 Really? They made you pay because their product failed. that's shitty

@AbuHajarAlBugatti

4 жыл бұрын

@@SolarMechanic Glad I started with the Elite. But even my First Elite had a E64 (one red quarter only) while shredding a onlinematch of Call of duty world at war in midsummer. Just went to the store the very same day and just bought a entirely new 360 Elite

Capcom Vancouver: Hey check out our gritty re-imagining of one of your popular IPs. Capcom Japan: *looks at DmC, Bionic Commando, and Final Fight Streetwise* That's a no for me dawg.

@StarDragonJP

4 жыл бұрын

Also Strider

@darkmariofans

4 жыл бұрын

@@StarDragonJP Strider was actually well received though

@goosechaser13

4 жыл бұрын

@@StarDragonJP strider was extremely well received and was a successes, the japanese fans even asked the studio to do a sequel

@edjeil123

4 жыл бұрын

@@StarDragonJP Strider was actually really good. Yeah it didn't get massively high reviews and that was expected but it still captured classic Strider gameplay and fun to boot.

@StarDragonJP

4 жыл бұрын

Wasn't saying it was bad, was saying it got a darker reboot around that same time.

Of course, as soon as an ex-Ubisoft dev gets a hold of Dead Rising 5 they try to turn it into Assassin's Creed by having you climb all over shit. It's almost funny how little imagination Ubisoft devs seem to have.

@Ckoz2829

4 жыл бұрын

That explains why Assassin’s Creed, Far Cry, and Watch Dogs are the same game with a different coat of paint.

@DanielZeal

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ckoz2829 I remember before Breath of the Wild came out I was really worried that Nintendo's inexperience with open-world games would lead them to just copying Ubisoft's homework

@Ckoz2829

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanielZeal One of the problems with it is that’s it’s very easy for other developers to copy. Ubisoft created a template for other companies to follow and plenty of games suffered from strict, rigid, bloated mission design because of it. Thank God Nintendo followed their own design. I played BotW for the first time over the summer and while I didn’t think it was a masterpiece, I was very impressed with how the game grabs your attention and leads you around to little secrets and stuff. The world itself was tons of fun to explore and there was hardly any bloat added to the missions. I guess the Korok seeds and shrines can be considered bloat, but I don’t think Nintendo really expected anyone to collect them all. Honestly, there’s really no need to seek them out. You can’t walk 10 feet in the game without tripping over one of these and they all do a pretty good job of attracting your attention anyway. And the most important thing is they’re fun to collect (at least the shrines are).

@fernie-fernandez

3 жыл бұрын

I also feel like Crystal Dynamics' key-developer gets underutilized these days...

@White_Tiger93

3 жыл бұрын

simply put, dead rising was a game made by talented Japanese devs, but it was ruined by Western devs who don't know how 'communicate' with Japanese devs how to make a proper dead rising game. the same thing also happened to demon souls remake which many original fans find it 'disgusting'...

"Tech savvy teenager that can hack using mobile phone" trend should be dead

@JohnDoe-uf3lj

4 жыл бұрын

RxMxG Absolutely! I saw that design and just thought "Yuck..."

@alr68

4 жыл бұрын

It actually made me roll my eyes

@cosmoconkerjames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@grahamiest

4 жыл бұрын

We just shouldn't allow any game characters to be a teenager and wear a hoodie

@moltenlava6684

3 жыл бұрын

is it still alive? i don’t think i’ve seen it recently

29:20 Damn, Crowbcat having that kind of influence is mind blowing.

@pksstr

4 жыл бұрын

It's the power of viral videos. People who never played a Dead Rising game in their life could see what was happening.

@TsakaneMaluleke

4 жыл бұрын

lol I just remembered that he announced a pateon and then promptly stopped uploading videos

@paprikayes

4 жыл бұрын

Tsakane Maluleke A Patreon that receives money per video. It’s not like he’s sitting there soaking up a monthly income while doing nothing.

@bluefates58

4 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling he is going to make a video about The Last of Us part 2

@RichterTheRat

4 жыл бұрын

@sdf sfdgsdfg You have issues.

Capcom board meetings with these devs must have been like: Coorporate: "Thank you all for coming, so uh we were wondering if going off the success of the previous entries in the series you'd be okay with going ahead and making another Dead Rising game? “ Dev: " Nah. Dig Dug but it's a dating sim"

@Junkyardproduxtions

3 жыл бұрын

I'd check out that Dig Dug ngl. It could be a dating version of Motherload lol

@secondhandfreiza8838

3 жыл бұрын

@Adofo hey that came true, except for the stealth part.

@dakota7745

2 жыл бұрын

@@Junkyardproduxtions Pooka: "B-b-baka!..."

@lemon8890

2 жыл бұрын

You can't blame them for trying something new how can you keep making the same game with passion without getting burn out or bored.

@Abel-Alvarez

2 жыл бұрын

@@lemon8890 I get that part because as a developer they would want to branch out. But here's the thing, they were bought by Capcom Japan KNOWING their main purpose was ti make DR games (whether they wanted to or not). Capcom Vancouver not only did not listen to Capcom Japan, but also the fans of the franchise. Is it any surprise that the game came out the way it did?

Why did they try to change so much?? In a wave of serious zombie games, a game like dead rising would be a relief to many of their fans because they want what Dead risin is known for.

@dallyink7412

4 жыл бұрын

That was Capcom at the time. Inafune himself glorified Western games and wanted to chase that audience so badly... it's kind of fitting that the series he helped make is the one that was arguably damaged the most. RE and Devil May Cry had huge recoveries and Dead Rising is just passed out in the gutter.

@Cloontange

4 жыл бұрын

They wanted a new IP but the execs said no

@macaronicowgirl

4 жыл бұрын

Microsoft wanting to create a game like The Last of Us probably did it

@darrylaz3570

4 жыл бұрын

That was, unfortunately, the old Capcom under Keiji Inafune's leadership. As much as I love the guy and will defend some of the things he said (The "It's better than nothing" comment was from his translator not him), you can't deny that his influence to "Westernize" Capcom franchises has certainly brought damage to the company's reputation. For Capcom Vancouver, its because they felt creativity stifled and want to do something new with new IP plans or new entries to other Capcom IPs, which Capcom Japan denied permission, unfortunately, so its both Vancouver and Japan's fault here

@R3fug333

4 жыл бұрын

He said why in the video. They felt creatively stifled and didn't want to make the same game again.

This entire video just makes me sad. As a Dead Rising fan and a programmer myself, hearing about all the development issues DR4 and what DR5 could have been just breaks my heart. It really is a shame Dead Rising had to end like this.

Vancouver: Can we make something new? Capcom: LOL NO. You only exist to make Dead Rising.

@xsoultillerx

3 жыл бұрын

@Outsider technically it was 5 dead rising games. people forget that DR2 was basically 4 games (case zero, DR2, case west & off the record).

Y'know... I feel like video game development constantly proves that "too many chefs spoil the broth." The creative potential of a video game, paired with the scale of their modern productions is a recipe for disaster, or creative disappointment at least. It seems like the teams that thrive are the ones with authoritative leaders and patient pawns: Not exactly an artistically equal deal.

@lalehiandeity1649

4 жыл бұрын

Movie development, too.

@Kaden10

2 жыл бұрын

It's clear they didn't have a complete game plan.

What a fascinating yet depressing video.

@kayagorzan

2 жыл бұрын

Those are indeed the facts

@TheGameDomeGuy

2 жыл бұрын

i actually found it funny, their sheer hubris, refusal to talk with their bosses in japan, trying to be a completely different game to what the franchise is about, full on ignoring the input of capcom, ignoring any sort of redflags that warned them that they were making a mistake and just pushing Capcom's patience over and over and over wasting their time and money on what seem more like unfocused passion projects than what they asked them to make till Capcom just said "fuck it, you people want to make something other than the game we asked? do it some other place you're all fired" thats a pretty funny story, you reap what you sow

@VaeVictus17

2 жыл бұрын

Hardly depressing. After dead rising 4, I'm glad it ended

“In dead rising 4. Psychopath’s were deemed inappropriate because of killing people with mental disabilities etc,” Me: *Looks over at some bosses from Dead Rising 1, 2 and 3* “I guess they didn’t realize that ITS THE POINT OF YOUR CHARACTER”

@TreatSan

4 жыл бұрын

Think theirs also the line that they weren't people with 'Mental Disabilities' they were people that Freaked out and 'BROKE' from the Panic... things that actually happen IRL and aren't just 'Mentally Disabled' people... That phrase they used, a kinda big insult to people that Panic in crazy world ending pandemics... And to every celebrities' that does something crazy/Against the cuff/Dumb when ever they're told about how dumb it is.

@randominternetuser5872

4 жыл бұрын

Then who are the "Psychopaths" in DR4? Those are still people. Killers? Aren't all killers are people that have a bunch of mental disability?

@mrshmuga9

4 жыл бұрын

Chronicle Zombie My guess is that given the design and the mention of physical defects, they didn’t want the psychopaths to resemble people with Down syndrome, because that wouldn’t come off well. But that’s a poor excuse because you could just change the face model. I can’t really think of another reason because any villain is a psychopath and no one has a problem kicking the crap out of them.

@stopthisatonce

4 жыл бұрын

Dead Rising 2/OTR has a mentally challenged person in it though. Just don't call him "Slow" and everything will be okay.

@leviadragon99

4 жыл бұрын

Considering the design of "reindeer man" and the other concept art, it seems like they were leaning harder into an unfortunately ablest direction, villainizing and mocking people with pre-existing conditions rather than those who had a mental breakdown under the stress of the apocalypse, different context. In addition, murdering people who have had a psychotic episode and having generic "crazy" people that it's okay to cut down was always kind of iffy territory, given that most mentally unwell people aren't actually dangerous and it's a damaging stereotype in media that they are, it just took a number of years for the devs to realize that.

Legend has it, That, that NPC is still Running into that wall too this very day.

So the moral of the story is to stick to your roots, I's good to take inspiration from popular games, But it seems they have spent the last 10 years trying to turn DR to another type of game just because others were popular.

@sneedclavehere8918

4 жыл бұрын

>Dead Rising 4 >Frank lost his arm >He replaces it with a mechanical one >Instead of combo-suits, the player would be able to create combo-arms a la Evil Dead

@ka7al958

4 жыл бұрын

@james paul I disagree, All the best franchises are the ones that kept their identity, We have hundreds of games that play the same come out every year and they're still popular, I think the early 2010's had a lot of zombie related media which kinda killed the hype for any zombie related thing, But if they actually tried to make a game with as much freedom at the first one on a new engine i think it would have been received well.

@lalehiandeity1649

4 жыл бұрын

james paul Then don’t make a fourth one period.

@JJAB91

4 жыл бұрын

Thats honestly something that too many game franchises fail to see. Looking at you Halo.

@lalehiandeity1649

4 жыл бұрын

james paul There’s a difference between evolving a formula versus adopting a completely different formula.

It's a real shame what happened to this series. It had so much potential with the core identity of the series scaling up nicely with new generations of hardware, but then 4 happened. Sucks that the devteam was actually fully aware of the shortcomings and wanted to fix their mistakes and instead kept being led in the wrong direction.

@MabuseXX

3 жыл бұрын

It had no more potential. The Devs saw that. Japan didn’t. The sales shows that the Devs were right.

@DarthPaperBoy

3 жыл бұрын

@@MabuseXX The sales that started dipping after the devs took a different direction? Those sales?

Capcom Vancouver wanted to make any game but Dead Rising, it seems. It's a real shame, as being shut down every time you try to pitch a new IP, a revival or different game must be frustrating.

Dead Rising 4 as a clone of The Last of Us sounds awful, and Dead Rising 5 as a Dark Souls clone sounds even worse. This just goes to show that executive meddling isn't always a bad thing.

@misterdewott8766

4 жыл бұрын

You know it's bad when The Suits who own your soul tell you, "Hey man, this is a terrible idea."

@landrylongacre6391

4 жыл бұрын

If only Capcom of Japan checked in more often and also spent more money on one of their flagship titles and checked closer to make sure it wasn’t horrible

@MabuseXX

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the opposite. DR4 as TLOU clone would have been a tons better than the shit they than presented as DR4. The 4 entry of a game is always a good point to rethink everything and change the path.

@TheJadedJames

2 жыл бұрын

The result of executive meddling was a compromised traditional game by people bored with the concept and who didn’t have the time and resources needed

@Jshaw71

2 жыл бұрын

The original dead rising started off as a dark zombie survival game, but changed tone to what it's known to today

Damn, that scrapped villain, Evo Queen, was a baddie. Would've been easly used for SFMs

@bumblessb

4 жыл бұрын

someone needed to say it

@MrGandymanjr

4 жыл бұрын

Someone post this on a reddit for it to happen! Remind me when it’s posted!

@cheeseburgah563

4 жыл бұрын

Wait please tell me your not saying what I'm thinking PLEASE TELL ME IT'S NOT THAT

@Bloo_Frost

4 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah dude, say what needs to be said

@16BITinsanity

4 жыл бұрын

My man out here speaking straight facts

I can't remember what other IP Dead Rising originally started off as. IIRC they were attempting to work on another entry in an already existing series, but after fleshing out some mechanics, they ultimately spun it into Dead Rising 1 as we know it.

@luisabreu1198

4 жыл бұрын

Shadow of Rome 2.

@Montmorency323

4 жыл бұрын

@@luisabreu1198 Winner

Capcom Vancover: What is my purpose? Capcom Japan: You make Dead Rising Capcom Vancover: Oh my god.

>Capcom Vancouver makes DR2 >Capcom likes it >Capcom Vancouver wants to make new IP >Capcom denies it >Capcom Vancouver makes DR3 >Capcom likes it >Capcom Vancouver wants to make new IP >Capcom denies it >Capcom Vancover tries again with another new IP >Capcom denies it >Capcom V wants to revive franchises people want to play >Capcom denies it

Well... that definitely explains why Dead Rising 4 is so poor

@jamesedleymusic

3 жыл бұрын

As if any explanation was needed.

@kyanrinel5898

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was fun. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@caetano9567

2 жыл бұрын

Poor Capcon

@N12015

2 жыл бұрын

Or could you say... What happened to Dead rising 4... But seriously, it was covered in great detail in that show.

@LiamRproductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@N12015 All of the information from that video is from this from.

Even their revival pitchs are more based on other games than the original one. They wanted to turn gun.smoke into lost Planet.

First thing I noticed was that almost every zombie and civilian had on the same damn jacket just a different color. Whoever owned that jacket shop must be a trillion air by now.The fact that you had to pay for the Frank West Rising DLC was to see the true ending was bullsh*t. And the ending wasn't even that great.

@aoiminase

4 жыл бұрын

Well hoping for the next series is to use his student as playable character

"We're going back to our roots for DR4". That's a Todd Howard level of lie.

Dang, I read the title and was deeply saddened already. I just want another game like dead rising 1

@cup1d_456

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Capcom Japan needs to give dead rising another chance

Yehp, Renssreview was right all along Dead Rising 4 was developed in one year Wow

Remember when Dead Rising had a message to send and wasnt about just being goofy?

@Reoko77

4 жыл бұрын

I think STiPO said something about it saying the zombies was actually just the secondary focus and the main was over consumerism. It was so stuble and blew my fuckin balls off when i realized that.

@InternetTAB

4 жыл бұрын

@@Reoko77 you mean them telling you outright about having to breed supercows to feed america's meat consumption blew over your head?

@SamWiseTheGreat

4 жыл бұрын

@@Reoko77 Subtle? Dr Barnaby and Carlito in their dying words tells you all about how there are too many people on the planet and how we just eat everything and... Somehow you got lost on that, lol.

@CasualREDACTED

4 жыл бұрын

@@SamWiseTheGreat Don't forget the message in 2 was supply and demand. they caused outbreaks when they run low on queens and need to stock back up for zombrex, and when there is an outbreak their stocks go up because of the fear of zombies.

@Reoko77

4 жыл бұрын

@@SamWiseTheGreat naw, back in 2006, i was a pretty dumb teen who didnt really read between the lines. At 15, all i cared was about smashing a chair over a zombies head. At the time, i didnt really care about the underlying topic. Then 10 years later i played the remastered and was blown away at how different it was compared to everything else i ever played. I guess it was because zombies are so oversaturated and used so often nowadays, i didnt expect DR to have such a subtle, yet clear cut message. It was a breath of fresh air. Sorry if it didn't make sense before, just hard to put in words your epiphany.

This is just such a huge bummer. Dead Rising is my favorite series out there and I still don't think I've properly moved on from how bad 4 was. This video helped to close the door on that a bit, but also reopened those old wounds :'(

Imagine Capcom, walk up to the E3 stage and reveal Dead Rising Remake

@crodor_

4 жыл бұрын

honestly wouldn't be surprised. no AAA game studio these days can make new properties or good sequels, so they just remake old shit, and it fuckin sells like hotcakes

@DJTEKTORO

4 жыл бұрын

Dz is not Dizzy Capcom can remake any of their 207 ips and strike gold!

@Nel_Annette

4 жыл бұрын

"In this remake, we have removed the time mechanic!" "BOOOOOOOO!!!"

@humantofu

4 жыл бұрын

This is going to sound silly, but at this point I'm mourning the loss of DR4 and 5's early stages more than I do want a proper remake of Dead Rising. Even though they were all radically different from what I fell in love with the series, they at least sounded unique on paper by offering a different take on the zombie killing RPG formula, and I'll forever be disappointed that Capcom Vancouver rotated executive staff constantly while Japan shot down any game that felt interesting and had tons of promise. If CV was struggling so much to retain the core appeal of Dead Rising, they should've just been given complete creative freedom on a new zombie IP similar to Dead Island -> Dying Light That's not to say I dont want more Classic style Dead Risings, but at the same time I also want new things too. You can only do a series for so long before it eventually gets stale.

@macaronicowgirl

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, they should just reboot the series at this point, I don't see how they could make a follow up to DR4 because of how much of a flop that game was, just naming the game DR5 would turn a lot of people off I feel like. Either a full reboot (a la DMC) or a full remake of DR1 would probably be a good next step. A reboot might be a better option though, so that way sequels of the reboot could be possible.

What a tragic series. DR is still one of my favorites of the era and probably of all time, and then there's even 3 which still has some genuinely impressive things going on despite the massive flaws. It's like the possibility of putting all of the ingredients together and making something to surpass the original concept was constantly there, but more and more ridiculous mistakes kept being made and we got a stead decline in quality instead of the Dead Rising game we always should have gotten.

Such a shame how Dead Rising's future turned out. Game had great potential but handled poorly.

Poor Capcom Vancouver. I can tell they really cared, even trying reviving dead IPs at the time (who would have known there's a 6th canceled Megaman title in the last 8 years), but everytime they tried something new, Capcom just wasn't confident enough to give them the budget they need. But goddamn, Dead Rising 4... What a huge mistake. The first red flag is to try to make it a rival to The Last Of Us. Serious gameplay and Dead Rising just don't match well. They should have stick to the formula and expand it instead of trying to be the TLoU killer. It will never gonna happen. Dead Rising 5 tho... That sounds awesome... until the stupid executive producers ruined the perfectly fine design. Ultimately though, it's down to the fault of executive producers who tried to incorporate something that's too different and unfitting to a Dead Rising game over and over again. The firing of the old DR producers is also a mistake on Capcom Japan's fault.

@fernie-fernandez

4 жыл бұрын

Quick question: Is there any other Canadian game studios...!?

@KoolRanch

4 жыл бұрын

Fernie Fernandez For Capcom or in general? If the latter, then I can only think of Next Level Games who developed Punch-Out for the Wii or Luigi’s Mansion 3. There are more though, but I don’t recall who they are.

@paulakroy2635

4 жыл бұрын

KoolRanch Ea Vancouver

@adachiandmarie6024

4 жыл бұрын

So since seriousness and dead rising dont match does that mean dead rising 1 and 2 are trash

@StockpileThomas1

4 жыл бұрын

Dead Rising 1 and 2 (haven't played the sequels) were serious. The only goofy thing was the sandbox.

I immediately judge a game negatively if they copy Batman's detective mode just to see enemies behind walls and nothing else, which is surprisingly common in triple A games

@cannonfodder4000

4 жыл бұрын

I think spiderman on ps4 copied it too

@josephkeen7224

3 жыл бұрын

That stupid mechanic is why I haven’t played the Batman Arkham games.

@xthee_0nly_1x11

2 жыл бұрын

The Last of Us….

This has to be the most depressing DYKG video I’ve ever seen. As a die hard fan who’s bought the first two and their spin offs countless times. I’m amended that we will never see what could’ve been. This was hell of a hurricane story...

I think Crowbcat is every game dev's worst nightmare

A couple things to take away. 1. Ubisoft employees are dangerous 2. Don't make the fifth entry in a series a completely different game 3. Talk to the poeple who own your company 4. Give the parent company what they want so you stay in a job

"last of us killer" I cant

I love that they were looking at games like GTA, Uncharted, Darks Souls, Bloodborne to make a DR game and NOT AT THE THE OTHER DR GAMES. Idiots really.

10:15 Took me a sec to realize you said "stunned" and not "stoned"

Phenomenal job on the video, hearing about how passionate the team at Capcom Vancouver was and how many games they worked on that were cancelled physically hurts as a diehard fan of the Dead Rising series. Especially knowing that Dead Rising 4 could have been more, something special but not given the time and resources needed, over a bunch of people that did not care about the series working on it like I thought happened when the game originally launched. Knowing that even the team knowing that DR4 was going to be bad and they were basically cleaning up someone's mess... I can't stress this enough, great video!

@LiamRproductions

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Yeah, the people are Capcom Vancouver definitely didn't deserve the hate they got. It was not the fault of any single individual. It was years of mismanagement, the lack of a strong creative direction, and the lack of integration with Capcom JP that seemed to be their downfall.

@AGrayPhantom

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously, that bit about using different camera filters to analyze crime scenes sounds really cool!

@aoiminase

4 жыл бұрын

m9mil041 TJ the one who hosted “terror is reality”?

3:24 Rare footage of abbys weigh training for the last of 2

Capcom Vancouver were their own worse enemy. They did a good job lighting a fire under their own asses.

Ubisoft Dev comes onto team: *tries to make it Assassin's Creed/Far Cry and emphasizes making the map bigger with Map Towers* Yep, that fits the bill. Great work on the coverage.

@fernie-fernandez

3 жыл бұрын

@Veer Pal What about the Crystal Dynamics dev?

@fernie-fernandez

3 жыл бұрын

@Veer Pal They don't get much recognition with their IPs to actually stand-out...

Ubisoft turns up and tries to make an Assassins Creed game, complete with towers

Bad News: there won't be a fifth Dead Rising Good News: there won't be a fifth Dead Rising

@MangoChannel

3 жыл бұрын

@@A_Stranger2256 the one that was canceled in June?

So basically, they thought a series that sold and stood out thanks to its over-the-top antics needed to be a boring, generic edgy game about zombie survival identical to every other zombie game in the world. While it's sad that people lost their job because of this, I don't feel like we've lost all that much as a gaming community.

@MabuseXX

3 жыл бұрын

You should read other comments where people saying that DR1&2 are very serious......

@unknown-iy2we

3 жыл бұрын

It was microsoft who wanted them to make last of us clone.

@Abel-Alvarez

2 жыл бұрын

@@unknown-iy2we and failed miserably

We'll always have Frankie in Marvel vs Capcom.... And M.U.G.E.N

@awesomeguy5679

4 жыл бұрын

And Project X Zone!

@paulakroy2635

4 жыл бұрын

Marvel vs Capcom needs another game it’s way more fun than dbfz

@ZRovas117

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulakroy2635 Same bro. Same. We need Marvel vs Capcom 4

@baileypalmer103

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, i don't even mind if it's not with Marvel, i just want a new Versus game in general.

@chancepaladin

4 жыл бұрын

That's why we on twitter always begging Cap to throw him in every spinoff to keep the hope alive. He's covered wars ya know !

On the grave of the gaming industry it will read... "No lessons were ever learned"

How can a team of talented developers consistently come up so many awful ideas for one franchise?

@paulbell3682

2 жыл бұрын

It's an extreme shame too because they hit the ground sprinting at max speed with Dead Rising 2 & Dead Rising 2: Off The Record.

It truly is a tragedy for the studio. Though, I'm not a fan of the story direction for Dead Rising 5. The part with Katey's abilities just not sit well with me. Would have honestly preferred a continuation to Case West following Frank West and Chuck Greene exposing Phenotrans + finding the "cure".

@sealake7935

4 жыл бұрын

I would love a new game with Chuck and Frank trying to take down Pheonotrans.

@MM6D

4 жыл бұрын

That would’ve been so bad. Dead Rising 5 sounded like it was going to be decent and they talked about how they learned from the mistakes, then they announced Katey would literally have super powers, that’s just so dumb.

"Frank West" I want uber bulgy original Frank back.

@jamesedleymusic

4 жыл бұрын

We want wide boi Frank.

Ouch this hurt to see in my notifications

Capcom employee 1: i think i forgot something Capcom employee 2: if you forgot it then it wasn’t important Capcom employee 1: yeah your right Dead rising 3’s ending and the fact that Nick is immune

The "I'm not like other girls" approach to game design leadership got over 200 people fired. Maybe just make the sequel you were asked to.

@PsypherWolf

3 жыл бұрын

No, that's Lawbreakers, DR4's biggest problem was trend-chasing.

@Toki-Ralte

3 жыл бұрын

@@A_Stranger2256 you can go and spread your wings when you're not on a paycheck.. if they're sick of making the same old burger over and over again, then they could've innovate the burger to be more appealing not make a watermelon sandwich or somethin different entirely.. if you paid to make burger, just make the freakin burger.. and why are you so hostile?? go a life, loser.. also, Capcom did eventually greenlit one of Vancouver IP in 2017, it's a shitty virtual fighter and it ultimately led to their shutdown...

So they essentially abandoned the identity that Dead Rising, Dead Rising. Every "leader" was just chasing what everyone else was doing after DR4.

Crazy now we have gameplay of the mexico leaks for DR 5!

"darker, grittier" Why do we keep trying this?

@fernie-fernandez

4 жыл бұрын

Remember how lighter and softer tones keeps getting ridicule...!?

@misterdewott8766

4 жыл бұрын

"Realistic = Always Better" in the eyes of insecure adults

@MosiahWhite

3 жыл бұрын

It's a western developer problem for a multitude of reasons, one being that they want to be taken seriously instead of people just going "you work on games for teenagers?" For some reason they can't take pride in that anymore.

I find it so ironic that Dead Rising 4 suffered because of a time limit

@it_is_thatboy

8 ай бұрын

karma.

So a bunch of good ideas were shot down while the bad ones were greenlit with minimum resources and people leaving the project? This is where the line between Unseen64 and Matt McMuscles starts to blur EDIT: And now Matt has done a "What Happened?" episode on DR4 using this video for research, so I guess I'm good at calling it.

Great video on Capcom Vancouver, it really solved a ton of missing gaps many fans could only have guessed happened behind the scenes. It is a genuine shame that CV was never given the proper chance to do things their own way before being shot down by Capcom Japan.

While I didn't mind the timing mechanic being removed, there was a lot of stuff missing in dead rising 4 that just didn't give it a dead rising vibe...

@Ckoz2829

4 жыл бұрын

The timer is at the heart of Dead Rising. Without it, you get Dead Rising 4. Just think about the first Dead Rising game without the timer. There’s no agency to the story, to the side missions, it’s that pressure to be punctual that drove the game. Otherwise all there is to do is kill zombies and how long can you do that before getting bored?

@hoodycoo4391

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ckoz2829 for me, it was more frustrating than "Fun"

@yoursoulessmate

4 жыл бұрын

Like less pyschos to kill and can't guide survivor to safe place because there is no nearest one? I will agree

The segment with the writing on the wall about the studio closure and them throwing the kitchen sink at Capcom with pitches trying to save their jobs...damn.

Im still mad about the "Maniacs." Bro where are my opening and closing cutscenes I want my plot exposition on what made these people go insane.

What an amazing video! Wel structured! I love it! More like this please! An inside look into the development of big studios and franchises is amazing!

This is amazing content from dykg. Please keep the series up! Also please keep telling tales from devs from rushed projects, it was fun

17:54 ngl frank doing investigative journalism to find optional psychopaths would be kinda cool

I know the whole thing is a shitshow, but the part about how they wanted to turn Dead Rising, a game very popular in its own genre, into a "Last of Us" killer speaks volumes of how shit and creatively bankrupt the execs at the head of these industries are. Trend followers who constantly fail miserably at following trends but still think following trends is the way to go.

@SandStone88

3 жыл бұрын

Weird since in the end someone else manage to make a “Last of us” killer in a way.

@newageweeb4049

3 жыл бұрын

@@SandStone88 lol

@fernie-fernandez

3 жыл бұрын

Imagined if DOOM Eternal became a trend and game-devs would tried to copy the tones...

I forgot Dead Rising 4 even happened...

Chop til you Drop is still one of my all time favorite games.

@cup1d_456

3 жыл бұрын

You couldn't do a lot of things in ctyd but it's still better than dead rising 4

It's sad to see this series go out not with a bang, but a whimper... I hope it makes a comeback. I really do. The original is one of my all time favorite games.

@aoiminase

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah like from DR1 to 3

@RichterTheRat

4 жыл бұрын

It's better that it went out with a whimper and not as a flailing zombie with no more dignity left.

@aoiminase

4 жыл бұрын

BlowBlow's Jiizare Headventure agree

@HieFlux

4 жыл бұрын

@@RichterTheRat Yeah... *sigh*

@zacserrer8178

6 ай бұрын

The very 1st, probably my favorite. Best story, omg. One the best games in my opinion.

"Walking Dead killer" "Souls-like" "Bloodborn" They were trying to imitate success instead of sticking to what made the original games good and unique. Capcom Japan knew what they were doing passing on these changes to Dead Rising. Too many game companies and developers are trying to imitate success and get rich quick. Ridiculousness.

@MusicMan2007

4 жыл бұрын

Dont forget the last of us killer. What a joke how the hell you gonna take down the last of us

@keylakettlemjardim8282

3 жыл бұрын

Foolishness, Vancouver. Foolishness

Serial killers for this sounded dope.

Here from Matt McMuscles Wha Happun on Dead Rising 4, how bad could this b- 38 minutes long?! Glad I'm drinking, this is going to sting isn't it?

I never realize just how much these companies go through just to make one game until I watch these videos. Thank you.

I love how surprised you portray Capcom Japan despite their lack of input. 'This isn't the game we didn't tell you to make!'

@psychokinrazalon

2 жыл бұрын

You don’t know all of what was said.

@thisplatformsucks

2 жыл бұрын

@@psychokinrazalon I'm going off what was in the video, hence 'I love how surprised you PORTRAY Capcom'. Try reading next time.

Honestly, Project Climber sounded really generic. Aping the Last of Us and every other zombie survival setting wasn't gonna get people interested unless they had some unique hook, which it sounds like they didn't have. Also the studio trying so hard for "realism" which isn't that the franchise is about, so it was doomed from the start.

@jimster1111

4 жыл бұрын

to be completely fair climber sounded like days gone which was a great game and did quite well financially. if they would have taken the dead rising series more in that serious direction i bet it would still be alive and well today.

@lalehiandeity1649

4 жыл бұрын

jimster1111 It wouldn’t be Dead Rising, though. The smart course of action would be to make it a new IP altogether.

@ricardorios2355

4 жыл бұрын

They wanted other projects but Capcom wouldn’t give it to them. They were bored doing the same thing over again.

@stopthisatonce

4 жыл бұрын

They could have called it Dead Rising: Gaiden, worked it in as a Dead Rising spin off. They did it with Resident Evil on GBC, and it worked (kinda), it just didn't sell very well and CAPCOM isn't exactly a stranger to trying new things. I think it would have been interesting at the very least.

@someusername1872

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimster1111 Days Gone was a pretty mediocre game. If I wanted to play one of the million ultra serious third person zombie action shooter games I'd play an actual good game like TLoU or RE 1/2, not a TLoU ripoff like Days Gone.

jeez that concept art from DR4 had a more true look for the Frank West that i know instead of his model in-game LOL

That project Brazil had some really lit concept art, what a shame

All I got from this is that Capcom wanted to give the fans what the fans wanted, while the studio wanted to give the fans anything but.

How to make a successful sequel: - make it like the last one but emphasize the stuff people liked about it It's amazing how many studios cannot comprehend this

@Abel-Alvarez

2 жыл бұрын

Capcom Vancouver: we don't do that here.

@bigmanliam

2 жыл бұрын

wow ur so smart u should make video games

@nicklander3301

2 жыл бұрын

If only game development was this easy

Gotta love that mindset that's been becoming so prominent in the game industry like "you know those features that make this series interesting and unique? the stuff that the fan base loves and would crucify us if we ever threw it out? yeah we've decided no one likes those/they offend people so get rid of them."

Bro I just want a remake of the first dead rising

So they cut the timer from the game because they themselves had run out of time? That’s irony for you.

What happened is that, what was originally a very funny interpretation of what the Japanese people thought about American people became a lame misunderstanding of what Canadian people though that Japanese people thought about American people.

@MosiahWhite

3 жыл бұрын

This, DR1 was lightning in a bottle

I love these kind of videos! We don’t hear about these stories very often!

I have no idea, how they could mess this up that bad... all they had to do was create a new outbreak and bring everything the fans requested but better in a new environment maybe even bring back Chuck Greene as the main character, imagine you're 3 main characters from past games, as 3 playable characters (3 Player Co-op) ^_^

So let me get this straight, Capcom hired a brand new team, filled with people who never worked on a Dead Rising game before, and then got mad at them and closed their studio because the game was different from previous Dead Rising Games? WHAT DID THEY EXPECT THEM TO MAKE WHEN THEY HIRED A TEAM COMPRISED ENTIERLLEY OF NEWCOMERS! Seriously, Capcom's adversary to change has really been hurting my opinion of them recently. While I love the new RE Remakes, I really wish they tried more experimental things again.

@lalehiandeity1649

3 жыл бұрын

The Blue Castle team never worked on DR before, but they made DR2 amazing. New blood can be good if there’s respect for the other person’s sandbox that they’re playing in.

I just can't believe the amount of mistakes made in DR4 and how they wanted to make DR5 dumber. Best part is DR remade into a gritty zombie game, like DR is literally the silly Zombie game, why was it so hard to make that and improve on that?

@MabuseXX

3 жыл бұрын

Because it is not the silly Zombie game....or better: was not intend to be a silly zombie game.

Well made video like always. I appreciate the insight on the hard/crazy work that goes behind our beloved games.

"Many employees found work on EA Vancouver instead" Nah. Not Me. I change my whole courier.