This is how you tell a story, folks.

@paulsletten8985

2 жыл бұрын

Big fan, SS.

@KiloOne

2 жыл бұрын

Great minds often run in the same circles. Here, they’ve collided head on like two freight trains that got shunted onto the same track by a tired night watchman

@bell.with.one.e

2 жыл бұрын

Praise from Caesar.

@MrKDOG96

2 жыл бұрын

Big fan SS thanks for all the videos.

@bananacat3109

2 жыл бұрын

these are big words coming for you

Gotta hand it to Jon, a movie about Lonnie Smith would be Pretty Good

@thesophisticatedlobster6954

2 жыл бұрын

Shoutout to one of the greatest videos of all time

@robertjamesmcleod

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think I’ve read a better comment than this one

@OmnipotentSpud

2 жыл бұрын

Gosh I love that video. The music alone was enough but pair that with Lonnies crazy story and embrace of Schuerholz...inspiring.

@roryjamesoconnell

2 жыл бұрын

No lie, an expanded version incorporating all of the advancements in production this series has seen would be so cool.

@tim.noonan

2 жыл бұрын

Idk if it’s my favorite Jon Bois video, but it definitely is the most important to me. Showed me exactly what Jon is capable of in terms of storytelling, and it introduced me to Tame Impala. Just a masterpiece.

imagine being Dave Stieb, long retired baseball player and someone just goes ahead and makes a 3-4 hour youtube doc about you.

@JWex-jy7sk

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m thinking! I’m hoping somewhere there’s somebody who’s told Dave Stieb about this documentary and he’s watching it just like the rest of us.

@muddro420

2 жыл бұрын

and it's incredible. if i were steib, i would be honored as hell that someone was out here losing their minds over my back to back robbed no hitters. probably hurts to watch tho

@dustinpeterson6511

2 жыл бұрын

@@muddro420 just wait. It gets worse if I remember correctly.

@haroldb6773

2 жыл бұрын

I’d be gassed

@SLaird22

2 жыл бұрын

@@dustinpeterson6511 but then it gets better.

The “ he still doesn’t” line at the end of this just has me in tears like how can it get worse for this man Dave Stieb

@Hummabubba

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that line my face fall. I don't want to contemplate those horrors

@ApronStudios

2 жыл бұрын

I audibly said "OH NO" when that line dropped lmao

@SleepyGrapes

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hummabubba I’m actively not looking up his career because I want to experience it all in real time

@Hummabubba

2 жыл бұрын

@@SleepyGrapes Oh same

@rhys3822

2 жыл бұрын

it can always get worse... dave stieb knows this to be true

“If a team has the best pitcher in baseball… it’s anyone’s guess” The Mariners with King Felix and the Mets with deGrom both agree

@tylerbrantner4026

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, having the best QB isn’t necessarily a winning recipe either because there are 21 other starters that can sell out at any time… but compared to baseball it’s still a lock. I think that chaos is a big part of baseball’s appeal

@Roscododger

2 жыл бұрын

@Tyler Brantner No no if your Quarterback is the best in the league it's a disappointment if you're not making a deep playoff run. If your top pitcher is the best in the league, who cares? Trade them if your team is bad because not even they have the strength to drag your sorry carcass out of the rut. Like mr bossniper15 here said, ask the Mariners.

@nickmontalbano9573

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the Big Unit

@pangobara8182

2 жыл бұрын

They've done plenty of losing with those pitchers on the team, what do you mean?

@TheUntakenUsername

2 жыл бұрын

Mostly, but the Mets did haul Jake into a World Series, and he showed out in that 2015 division series

"what are the odds?" is never a rhetorical question in Dorktown

@serraramayfield9230

10 ай бұрын

Literally less likely then flipping a coin and having it land on the same side down. 27 TIMES IN A ROW.

I like how the Cleveland Browns managed to work their way in here, seems fitting that the factory of sadness would impose its calamities on others.

@ramnsesallen4375

2 жыл бұрын

Cleveland is not the sports city you want to be in

@waffled1090

2 жыл бұрын

As a Browns fan coming from a long line of Browns fans, ouch..

@jacoblebold8462

2 жыл бұрын

The factory of sadness is so powerful it can cause complete misery in other sports.

@ramnsesallen4375

2 жыл бұрын

@@waffled1090 I am in it with you brother, things are looking up for the moment tho

@jonathancarlson6127

2 жыл бұрын

*cue shot of FirstEnergy Field with evil laugh echoing in the background*

Dave Stieb is taking this documentary to the Blue Jays and he's going to WIN retroactive arbitration.

@joebaker2311

2 жыл бұрын

I think we are all rooting for this

@leonardlumbers

2 жыл бұрын

I’d like him to take the finished doc to the org and see if he can get his damn number retired. Jays have given it out every year since he left in ‘93 except for 2014-15. #Retire37

@88porpoise

2 жыл бұрын

I am sure it will come up soon, but the Jays actually agreed to renegotiate his salary upwards when there was no requirement to do so. So they kind of made up for some of the screwing him over years earlier.

@bmac4

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe that will get him his well deserved Cooperstown plaque. I mean Jack Morris got one off VC votes, why not Stieb?

@88porpoise

2 жыл бұрын

@@bmac4 I doubt it. Morris had sub par stats, but he had two huge playoff runs. He had two wins in the 1984 Series, two wins to knock out the Jays in 1991 and three excellent starts in the 1991 World Series (he was pulled with a 2-1 lead for a pinch hitter in the game he didn't win), including a 10 inning shutout in Game 7, to take the MVP. Then he played key role in getting the Jays over the top the next season, even if his stats (other than Wins) weren't spectacular and he was disappointing in the playoffs, he was widely recognized as a key part to getting the team thete. And he still got a fourth ring in 1993 even if he wasn't a significant contributor. And Morris had his reputation (regardless of whether it is deserved) that "he didn't necessarily make it pretty, but he just won". Neither Stieb nor Morris really have the raw stats to get in (Stieb needed a longer career to do it). But Morris has the much better story to get him over the top. That doesn't mean Stieb can't get in, but he doesn't have nearly as compelling of a case as Morris did outside of stats.

Only Jon Bois can make a chart the most terrifying object in a piece of media

@bonethugg

Жыл бұрын

got me stressing

Even after everything that Secret Base has put out, the sheer cosmic horror of this episode floored me. Vast, incomprehensible misery allotted to just a single pitcher. Nightmarish.

@redskullz1249

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, I haven't felt cosmic horror on this scale since I watched a metaball studios video on time measurements.

@randylevy

2 жыл бұрын

lol...no spoilers but it sort of gets worse :/

@bubba200874426

2 жыл бұрын

@@randylevy is it really a spoiler when the video ends with a cliffhanger that implies that?

@maxjohansen9475

2 жыл бұрын

I watched episode 1 and 2 in order and then went back to watch episodes 1 and let me tell you, watching that ball on a mission not only to ruin Halladays no no but to wish a fond farewell to Stieb is like looking into the face of god.

@insanusmaximus2857

2 жыл бұрын

That was literally one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen. It's a cyclopean monument that will loom over all of Dorktown forever.

I care way too much about this man I had never heard of two weeks ago.

@coyoteflavouring

2 жыл бұрын

Big 📠

@TheTicktockman321

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah! I remember in the early 80's, every stinking pack of cards that I got had a Dave Stieb card in it. "Who the heck is this Stieb guy?!?!?!" I'm finally finding out. Boy, am I finding out.

20:47 “train conductor in search of a steering wheel” is such an incredible line lmao

@LegendMkr7

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer, None of that egghead stuff, lol.

@robsharktest

2 жыл бұрын

I think the best line is still from the Mariners doc: "you're an astronaut who brought his wallet."

For those who don't know him, Royals reliever Dan Quisenberry, who has a cameo in this video, was also one of baseball's great characters. He was hardly scouted and signed with the Royals for 500 bucks and a bag of tobacco. He pitched subamrine-style and his fastball was 80 mph on a good day. He didn't throw curveballs. Despite this, he lead the AL in saves five times in six years. Over those six years he had 2.39 ERA as well. He might have made fewer mistakes than any pitcher ever, only walking 92 batters in over 1,000 innings over his career. His ERA+ is one of the highest among all modern pitchers. He was a published poet, a jokester, a hot-head, and a family man. He died in 1998 of brain cancer. He was only 45 years old. He was a damn good player and, by all accounts, an even better guy. It's a shame he's mostly forgotten outside of Kansas City now. He'll never have a plaque in Cooperstown, but he's definitely worthy of a spot in Dorktown.

@teen_laqueefa

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Never heard of him, now I NEED to know more🤯

@tomaspabon2484

Жыл бұрын

Quisenberry penned some of my favourite sports quotes of all time. I'm especially fond of "I became a better pitcher when I found a delivery in my flaw"

@jasonwalker4003

Жыл бұрын

​@@tomaspabon2484 damn that's fire

@AndreIguodalaFan55

Жыл бұрын

Yeah there’s a lot of b-ball players worthy of a Stieb like dorktown doc

@insanusmaximus2857

11 ай бұрын

I remember his name, but I didn't follow baseball closely enough to know that much about him. Thank you for sharing a bit of his story. Guys like that should be remembered fondly.

Deliberately not googling Dave Stieb to avoid spoilers, because this is so good. Kudos

"He still doesn't" as the line to end the video is as out of a horror movie. I'm genuinely scared of part 3

@mattkemper8485

2 жыл бұрын

I've never heard of this guy and can't wait.

@deathmetal11111

2 жыл бұрын

Well, spoiler alert...there's a good reason why they had to mention the no-hitters broken up with two outs in the ninth NOT belonging to Dave Stieb. Like he needs his own category :)

It turns out it is, in fact, not possible to wait and binge this series. The excitement is too papable too ignore.

@adamcoe

2 жыл бұрын

I've watched both episodes twice now, it's unreal

@Deenaziamazinjg14

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamcoe oh geez can’t imagine lacking a life as much as yourself

I met Julio Franco when I was a kid and I gotta say he was one of the nicest, most generous people I’ve ever met. Spent nearly 30 minutes with me after practice to talk with me about baseball and then ended it by giving me his bat, batting gloves, and a signed ball. Julio Franco can do no wrong. A true gentleman.

@panner11

2 жыл бұрын

Even though his interview in the video was only a few seconds, you could tell he's an honest and class guy

@YoungATUM

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I immediately looked up everything on him after seeing this the first time, seems like an absolute baseball legend.

That Julio Franco interview is incredible. I don't think I've even seen anyone other than the ump for the Galarraga game apologize for breaking up a no-hitter

@sethtate2079

2 жыл бұрын

Julio is one of the best most genuine people ever in baseball.

@SuperStrik9

2 жыл бұрын

@@35mm21 He also had one of the coolest batting stances of all time.

@justinmartin1831

2 жыл бұрын

Julio Franco the oldest major leaguer in history or so we think

@unkledoda420

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinmartin1831 Jamie Moyer was older

@tsurdyk

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinmartin1831 Satchel Paige.

"And sails somewhere into Guelph..." Wow thank you. You can just mention small city names outside of Toronto and thousands of Canadians will get excited every time.

@stefslon

2 жыл бұрын

The Matt Devlin Approach

@sellinganja

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that he used to mention that Guelph is where all cursed things go

@jtsholtod.79

2 жыл бұрын

Technically, given Exhibition Stadium's layout and trajectory of the throw, I'd say he sailed it closer to Brampton, or Kincardine if he had that much of an arm.

@shorv

2 жыл бұрын

It's the details that really show they care

@Guelph35

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, loved that call out.

As someone who deals with odds on a regular basis, the sheer physical appearance of 241,000,000:1 like that is just staggering. Our poor mans Dave Stieb.

@SimuLord

2 жыл бұрын

I once tried to calculate the odds Fernando Tatis faced in hitting two grand slams in the same inning and came up with 13 million to 1, based on how often teams bat around and send at least 13 hitters to the plate, how frequently the bases are loaded, how often a bases-loaded situation results in Grandma getting out the rye bread and the mustard, and a couple other factors I can't remember offhand. This is nearly 20 times less likely than _that._

@jonathanspears3484

2 жыл бұрын

With 2430 regular season games and 32-53 in the post season, we should expect this to happen once every 95,000 years or so?

@serraramayfield9230

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanspears3484 140,000 iirc

@jonathanspears3484

2 жыл бұрын

@@serraramayfield9230 Could well be... definitely true that an event with probability 1/x is not at all guaranteed to happen after x times, but I don't actually know the math and none of the online calculators were friendly. Is the 140k where probability goes above 50%?

@serraramayfield9230

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanspears3484 need to think for a bit

That is actually the worst hop I’ve ever seen in baseball. My heart stopped

@scrub_jay

2 жыл бұрын

If that happened in a video game it would be reported as a glitch

@JWex-jy7sk

2 жыл бұрын

I knew about Stieb’s back to back lost no hitters before this documentary, and knew it was Julio Franco who broke it up but had never seen footage of how it happened. When they paused it when it was in the infield grass I thought to myself…”Wait how is this going to possibly be a hit, it’s out #3 with ease?”

@scullystie4389

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. The baseball gods had different plans for Dave.

@SimuLord

2 жыл бұрын

@@JWex-jy7sk I see a grounder like that and someone says "it's going to be a hit", my natural reaction is "what, the second baseman fielded it lazily and Franco beat it out? Did someone bobble it and the official scorer screw up by not calling it an error?" That hop...there is NO way to see that coming.

@SimuLord

2 жыл бұрын

@Fries Didn't Vander Meer do that on both ends of a doubleheader? I thought I'd heard somewhere that was how it happened.

The fact that the camera panning downwards towards the red box at 56:55 inadvertently(?) causes a graphical glitch to make it seem like it’s trembling really embodies the chaos of the whole situation; Another amazing video from the SB crew

Jimy Williams pulling Stieb after Ricky Henderson steals on him makes perfect sense if you assume that Williams had never heard of baseball before and has no idea what it even means to be good at the sport.

@Marcus_Aurelius42

2 жыл бұрын

The man doesn't even know how to spell his own name how can he possible understand baseball

@teen_laqueefa

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marcus_Aurelius42 ©️™️⚾️🆒️

@kylespencer7756

2 жыл бұрын

as a Red Sox fan, I feel like this comment is a recycled cliche type comment that I have never heard before. but I like it, and will be using it, and will forever credit "some random dude on a Dave Steib youtube video" if ever asked where I got it from

@teen_laqueefa

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marcus_Aurelius42 he just likes to be different with his one "M" ass

@DanStrayer

2 жыл бұрын

“Manager’s decision.”

"6 days later" took my heart out of my chest. Like, I almost cried out.

@bubba200874426

2 жыл бұрын

I knew it was going to be a very short time by them making a special point of how rare losing a no hitter on the the last strike was, but I didn't expect it to be consecutive starts.

@MKPiatkowski

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine watching it in real time. I cried so much for him.

@seanomatopoeia

2 жыл бұрын

I walked out of the room.

I just wanna appreciate the setup for the game card. The stacking as the runners advance around the base is brilliant.

@bubba200874426

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that. Perfect use of 3D space without making the graphic too dense.

@SpruceOaks

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who designs data graphics, I admit the way they did that here really worked. Simple, easy to understand, yet communicates important information.

"He still doesn't" Is probably the most threatening thing I've ever heard Jon Bois say

Unreal how Jon and Alex have the consistent ability to give you goosebumps by showing you charts

@kyokyo718

2 жыл бұрын

some damn good charts

@Carbine64

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyokyo718 *pretty good charts

@doppelplusungutmensch1141

2 жыл бұрын

You know mathematics (and especially statistics) are extremely interesting and downright staggering. And people love sports. The concept of talking about sports statistics that dramatically with charts, visualizations and comparisons is simply... so easy, but so genious. Nothing will ever astonish a common man as an unlikely sports statistic, displayed in a fashion that the man actually understands how unlikely it is.

That Julio Franco bloodbath hopper single hurt my soul. I can't even begin to fathom how Stieb felt... Sheesh... Edit: because I just got to the next game... WHAT. THE. HECK!!! 😶

@1missing

2 жыл бұрын

I feel sick to my stomach

SB really have a talent in capturing uninhibited human suffering in sports. I thought they had captured it well enough with Super Bowl 51. I couldn't even imagine exactly what I just watched.

@serraramayfield9230

2 жыл бұрын

*watches Stieb fail the first no-hitter* "Okay, okay...that was bad. Yeah that was bad." *Stieb fails again* "What. In. The. Fuck" *odds are given* I would have just ran out of the stadium crying my eyes out at that point

@ianalex9062

2 жыл бұрын

And before Super Bowl 51, you’d think he captured it in the 2001 Mariners. Then this happened, and it blows both of those out of the water.

@utryping

2 жыл бұрын

have you watched pretty good s2e1? one of jons finest works in the suffering department

A Jon Bois video about Lonnie Smith would be so good he should make one

@fries5849

2 жыл бұрын

It truly would be pretty good

@paulsletten8985

2 жыл бұрын

Wait til I tell you about this guy named Rickey Henderson.

@mattkemper8485

2 жыл бұрын

It would show he's serious about success.

@112steinway

2 жыл бұрын

A video about how Lonnie Smith seizes the means of production would certainly be pretty good too.

@defeatstatistics7413

Жыл бұрын

Y'know, everyone focuses on American baseball, how about Jon covers a Korean player, maybe someone like Koo Dae-Sung?

Blue Jays fans know exactly what “this” is, and look forward to an even more agonizing review of those back-to-back heartbreakers.

@bmac4

2 жыл бұрын

Well on the plus side, surely he won't take any more no-hitters into the 9th again and the Blue Jays will win a World Series before he retires...right?

@brucedillon8358

2 жыл бұрын

@@bmac4 the ladder happened (1993)

@brucedillon8358

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was 1998 when the career ended? Did he unretire?

@SuperStrik9

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucedillon8358 Also 1992.

@brucedillon8358

2 жыл бұрын

@@CyberchaoX ah

Jack Morris was the last real beneficiary of the outdated thinking of the past. Who else if a career 5% better than league average would get the kind of money he got and a HOF plaque despite only 43 rWAR over 18 seasons The dude is 100% a villain and deserves to be remembered as such.

11:35 - To really illustrate just how close the Jays were to the '85 pennant: in March of 2020, literally a week before the pandemic shut everything down, I was at a flea market here in Calgary, on the other side of Canada some 2,050 miles (4,000 km) away from Toronto; and at one booth amongst a bunch of other vintage baseball memorabilia like Philadelphia Athletics and New York Giants pennants (the latter of which I bought) I saw a button for sale that read: "TORONTO BLUE JAYS, 1985 AMERICAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS". Some poor sap was so sure it was a done deal that he actually went out and had these things made in the 24-48 hours before the series' tide turned; and now 35+ years later some of them, depicting an outcome from an alternate universe, are still in circulation.

@LordTeaboBaggins

2 жыл бұрын

Those could have been official merch as well. During playoffs, merch companies will print memorabilia depicting both teams winning the championship game or series so that when the game or series is over, they can immediately begin rolling out sales on the merchandise. The merch showing the team that lost is usually donated to charity organizations as a tax write off, and from there that merch is shipped off to third world countries. So, if you've seen a picture of some random dude in some godforsaken land wearing a 1991 Atlanta Braves World Series Champions shirt, that's why. I'm guessing the buttons are similar :)

@teen_laqueefa

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordTeaboBaggins little starving kids and those BUFFALO BILLS SUPER BOWL SHIRTS

@Justin3Santiago

2 жыл бұрын

@@teen_laqueefa there's a generation of folks in some other country that believes the Bills were a dynasty who won 4 straight Super Bowls

@adamcoe

2 жыл бұрын

How much did you pay the guy for it? Please don't tell us you didn't buy it

@badger6728

2 жыл бұрын

Oh God, we’re gonna see Bengals paraphernalia on Ugandans in five years…

Love the Lonnie Smith cameo, another star in the Jon Bois Cinematic Universe

@ralphismyname4940

2 жыл бұрын

honestly a lonnie smith dorktown remake would be so awesome. Jon's storytelling has evolved so much since that video, imagine how hed tell that story now

The Jim Traber anecdote forgets to mention that he charge the mound a second time in that same game, but was tripped by the catcher and eventually ended up getting kicked in the face by the other team's manager. A Google search of the man's name quickly returns the article title "Jim Traber Apologizes For N-Word Controversy". Who'd a thunk?

@joebaker2311

2 жыл бұрын

Jack Morris was enough of a villain for this video

@Narokkurai

2 жыл бұрын

@Je Ne Parle Pas Francais Is there a difference in the way black people have historically used the word among themselves compared to how white people have used it towards them?

@Narokkurai

2 жыл бұрын

@Je Ne Parle Pas Francais So?

Just for further reference, the odds at 54:56 are equivalent to that of guessing heads or tails correctly just under 28 times in a row

In some alternate universe this video is titled Dave Steibs back to back No Hitters in the later 80s need a deep rewind.

Sang the national anthem. Cartoonishly chased a pitcher all across the diamond. Broke up a no hitter in the 9th with 2 outs and 2 strikes in the midst of a slump. That Traber guy needs a movie.

@user-lt8cs3yk1n

2 жыл бұрын

They already made Eastbound and Down. Also, imagine growing up listening to this man do radio.

@Mr4one6

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-lt8cs3yk1n ah true

The emotional whiplash of Stieb coming within one, impossible bat for a no-hitter, then doing it again in LITERALLY HIS NEXT GAME ONLY TO BE CRUSHED IN ANOTHER IMPOSSIBLY UNLIKELY HIT, is insane. The sheer cosmic horror of the odds of that happening, impossible to even truly understand, is devastating. AND IT GETS WORSE? HOW CAN IT GET WORSE? WHAT DOES THE UNIVERSE HAVE AGAINST THIS MAN?

This is one of Jon's best videos. I feel legitimately sad now. Thanks Jon.

@beckobert

2 жыл бұрын

You shouldn't feel sad. Feel happy because Lonnie Smith won the World Series.

I just finished episode 1 and now episode 2 comes out. it’s almost like it was meant to be.

@thetexanshurtme

2 жыл бұрын

Rest legendary commenter

as a Chiefs fan, i will never *not* appreciate Jon bringing Mahomes up in tangentially related sports stories

@Brivalia

2 жыл бұрын

Jon is also a chiefs fan

Dear God, that ending was pure pain. 1 in 241,190,218 His luck came from the depths of Hell, and that’s an understatement. Again, OMFG!!!

@thepizzagod420

Жыл бұрын

141,190,218 sided die

1:31 Yeah, someone definitely should have done a short-form, Google Earth-based documentary about Lonnie Smith.

@minsub417

2 жыл бұрын

It'd be probably be pretty good if they did

Out of every special and episode that Jon and Alex have put out, 57:08 is somehow the moment that filled me with the purest and utmost sense of dread. A LITERAL NUMBER!!!

I don't know if Parts 3 and 4 will go into it but it is amazing how Jack Morris was heralded by sportswriters for years as Mr. Baseball because he had 20 opening day starts or whatever while I grew up in Southern Illinois and had never heard of Dave Stieb until the first episode of this.

@leonardlumbers

2 жыл бұрын

Just wait until Morris signs with the Jays in ‘92 and immediately becomes their first 20-game winner, despite an ERA over 4 and a 2.8 WAR. Stieb had to watch THAT in his own backyard. (I was at school with the nephew of his biographer: Stieb was, to put it mildly, unnerved by all the 15-11 and 16-7 wins where Jack gave up sixes and sevens.)

@michaelfrazia4569

2 жыл бұрын

stieb was very well known in the 80s...I was a kid in New york and aware how great he was

@MKPiatkowski

2 жыл бұрын

@@leonardlumbers That was the worst. And then he does squat in the playoffs.

@Hazztech

Жыл бұрын

Sports writers are morons

@unkledoda420

Жыл бұрын

I got into baseball in the late 80's, it was no secret that Stieb was one of the best pitchers in the game.

I didn't hear the name Dave Stieb until now. I am desperately trying to convince myself not to google whether he pitches a no hitter or not. Because that tiny, irrelevant article will surely not pick up a speck of what doing it or not meant to this man.

@leonardlumbers

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, don’t do it, brother. See it through. There’s so much to this guy’s insane career to come. There’s a reason Jon and Alex need four parts.

@bubba200874426

2 жыл бұрын

This video did end on a cliffhanger implying it gets worse.

@shreknskrubgaming7248

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who has never cared about baseball in my entire life, I'm right there with you. We gotta see it through, this series has been far too good to spoil it early.

@ianalex9062

2 жыл бұрын

@@leonardlumbers I did look it up. I don’t know how to word this to not give a hint to it. I can’t say words like wonderful, or heartbreaking, sorrowful, or amazing. But ultimately, regardless of whether he pitches a no-hitter or not, he should be a HoFer.

I have never had the end of a Jon Bois video leave me with this sort of awful, strange feeling in my stomach. Damn, dude.

@alexwei2573

2 жыл бұрын

You should watch his “222-0” Pretty Good episode. Also has a horror-esque ending

@kdfsjljklgjfg

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexwei2573 That, we can chalk up to an isolated incident just working out to end ruinously. This is a long story of a man being tortured.

@theladyhrae

Жыл бұрын

NO!!!!!! and the DeVry videos have that uneasy sense to them. Tension and awe and a touch of brokenness.

LONNIE HAHAH, man I hope that y’all tell his story again, Jon made him one of my favorite players, and now I just hope he’ll be immortalized once and for all

One of my favorite Dorktown moments is the atmosphere created at 1:15 when Overland kicks into the main riff and the screen zooms all the way to the ALCS screen. Dorktown is an amazing series that would not be what it is without its music selection and timing.

That bounce made my jaw drop to the floor. Edit: No...not again...why are you doing this to us Edit2: This is the most tragic sports story I've ever heard.

That one in 241+ million chances of shattering a possible no hitter in back to back games is like winning the Mega millions or Powerball for Dave Stieb in a worst possible way. Man, his story of not getting a no-hitter in back to back games feels a lot more sadder now than the 28-3 Falcons collapse.

@serraramayfield9230

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's so much worse, at least you can blame the entire team for 28-3

You see the first point of impact and think, "ooh, that'll add a little mustard to it. Still, a major league fielder should be able to-" and then your brain derails when you see the second impact, you fall out of your chair onto the ceiling, the window flies open and your room fills with tomato soup. What I mean is that physics ceases to be man's greatest tool for understanding the universe and instead does the baseball equivalent of dividing by zero while strangling a kitten.

@serraramayfield9230

2 жыл бұрын

And then the 2nd failed no-hitter happens and causes the entire house to explode. Dividing by zero to the zeroth power.

@selenamertvykh6481

2 жыл бұрын

@@serraramayfield9230 0^0 as a fixed expression is agreed to equal 1 by convention. 0^0 as in lim x->0 y->0 x^y is the one that's undefined.

@msolec2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@selenamertvykh6481 Wrong. 0^0 is undefined. Not 1, not 0, anything.

@selenamertvykh6481

2 жыл бұрын

@@msolec2000 I was trained as a mathematician, and most mathematicians back me up. There are several perfectly good arguments for why it should be 1 in the context I mentioned; it's an empty product, it represents the unique endomorphism on the empty set. You also need to define it as 1 for Taylor series to work.

@msolec2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@selenamertvykh6481 Sorry, but you're not the only one that was trained in mathematician. By the properties of powers, and the fact that 1-1 is 0, 0^0 is equivalent to 0/0, and therefore undefined.

After explaining how unlikely it was for Dave Stieb to lose the no-hitter in the 9th with 2 outs and 2 strikes, I knew this had to happen again. Then there was the overly long pause and I was like "wait is it happening now? Is it going to happen at the start of next season, or maybe just before the end of this season? Is it going to happen in the last 10min of this video?", then Jon said "six days later" and a new spot was made on the graphic for the game and I finally understood just how much of a wild ride this story is really going to be.

Can’t wait for future Dork Town videos so that they can zoom out and you can see that monolith off to the side

@AlgernonCSwinburne

2 жыл бұрын

Every time there’s a zoom out, we will all remember this pain.

Man, those two no-hitter attempts really broke my heart. At the same time, I find them inspiring. There is something so genuine about Stieb going after his goal, taking the failure on the chin, and getting back up.

One, I let out a loud "WHOOOOOAAAAA" when I saw Pat Mahomes Sr. I didn't expect him to be involved in this story, and am glad he gets to put out some quotes about Morris since his son is not only a Super Bowl winning QB, but also possibly one of the most gifted players we've ever seen in that sport. Two, it was **painful** seeing that first 9th inning, 2 out, 2 strike no-hitter go away, especially on such an erratic and unlikely bounce. I know SB's brand of foreshadowing from the way you two kept emphasizing just how bad the last hitter was, and was preparing for the inevitable and it still hit me like a train... only to continue to be rolled over by that emotional pain train continuously until that bar finally stopped, seeing how obscenely unlikely it was. It hurts even more just typing this out realizing that, despite these heartbreaking denies, technically these are still amazing showing in which he showed clear dominance, but knowing he's not well regarded by sports writers and so he will never get the credit for these accomplishments and near-perfect feats.

The blocks turning red are beginning to cause physical pain for me. I started getting obsessed with baseball in the mid 80s when I was in 4th grade, and I always remembered Stieb as good but not great. This series is showing me how wrong I was.

Holy crap. This has to be the best "The Story of..." yet. I laughed. I cried. Great job Jon and friends.

I seriously hope in future Dorktowns the one in 241,190,218 odds is just in the corner and in the future when someone watches their first Dorktown they can just look in the corner and think "what the fuck happened there?"

Holy hell 57:10 It’s two in the morning here and I’m watching this before going to sleep and I’m probably staying up after this one. That’s a horrifying statistic if there ever was one.

I have been a huge fan of Jon Bois for a while now and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen everything he’s ever produced that’s online. THIS series is a complete and total masterpiece. Growing up in Ontario, the Jays were always a big deal in my youth but CHRIST none of us had any idea of who Dave Stein was, how brilliant his arm was, or just how devastating his road to a no hitter really was. Thank you for this. It’s sports storytelling at its absolute finest, without exception. Just wow.

@teen_laqueefa

2 жыл бұрын

Steib, you mean? 🇨🇦

@jbreaks4743

2 жыл бұрын

@@teen_laqueefa I’m referring to the guy who’s producing this thing. Jon Bois. Oh wait, I see how “Steib” was autocorrected to “Stein.” Lol. Good catch.

@teen_laqueefa

2 жыл бұрын

@@jbreaks4743 yeah, I was trying to be helpful, hope you didn't think I was trying to critique you

@MKPiatkowski

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's a shame how he's not been fetted by the club the way he should be. Every Jays fan should know his story.

The storytelling in this is amazing. The pacing and control of the subject matter is masterful. I find myself continually amazed at the quality of these SB docs... and I shouldn't be that surprised. Just wow.

The fucking music with the 241 million illustrated is some of the best cosmic dread I've felt watching any kind of media. Never would've expected that from a video about a baseball player who previous to series I had no idea who he was.

The Dorktown series are in my opinion some of the greatest videos ever made and the production is of the highest quality. This rivals anything on any platform to include prime time TV. Amazing work keep it up.

"He still doesn't." Oh, you've gotta be kidding me.

The inning-by-inning visualization technique in this video is brilliant and should be used for all baseball games.

@SimuLord

2 жыл бұрын

It is easily the equal of the way they present football games in chart form (that madly glorious Falcons-Eagles game in Episode 2 of that series was an all-time great moment.)

I have never seen a ball do that, I will never see a ball do that. That is unbelievable that the ball did that.

“everything about morris was bigger. his height, his uniform number, his ERA” me: DAAAAAMMMNNN 😂💀

When the dissonant music came near the end, I could only marvel at the sheer magnitude of how unfortunate Dave Stieb really was. Goosebumps.

"If you need innings, badly, but your manager can end your day whenever he feels like it, what do you do? What's the one way you can seize control? What's the one game you could pitch that would render you so completely invincible for a day, that no manager would be brave enough to interfere?" This is honestly a hella inspiring sentiment. I'm going to be thinking about this one a lot lately.

@SimuLord

2 жыл бұрын

Before October 8, 1918, the nicest thing Alvin York's commanding officer had to say about him was "he does what he's told." Greatness comes when it comes, and you just have to be there and prepared when it happens. Stieb knew a thing or two about that, even if he was so often tragically denied.

Poor Dave. Wow. This man had a hard road and travelled it well. I can't believe I am excited to go three hours deep into Stieb. Waiting on part 3. Great horror music to represent the 1 in a 1/4 B of despair.

"somewhere into Guelph"!! I knew you guys did your homework but this little southern Ontario geography piece really shows you're putting in ALL THE EFFORT. Love it

After watching this part, I feel as though I have gazed into a horrifying abyss. See you for Part 3!

57:08 - I thought I had already learned what "too big to comprehend" meant when Troy State and DeVry built the tower of babel 253 miles high on a foundation 141 miles wide. _I was wrong._ The tower had been built 4 years earlier: Something so unlikely it collapsed into a sporting singularity, detectable only by echoes of its chaotic energy spreading into the future. I applaud the brave sports cosmologists of Secret Base for staring into the unblinking eye of the universe that is sports and revealing its secrets to us. Seriously though, these videos are like Sagan for statistics.

Secret base gives Toronto sports more credit than ESPN ever will.

My uncle past away about 10 years ago and he talked about Steib as the best pitcher of the 80s. As far as I know this is the first hardcore look into that career so I appreciate that and I know he would have too.

I don’t know if I can handle part 3&4 I’m already gutted. My hand was shielding my face for the last fifteen minutes of this video.

“They don't really know Dave Steib. They will.” has such a force to it. Incredibly well written, boys.

I want to see more pitchers with Stieb's energy. Sprinting off the mound like he just scored a goal after a clutch strikeout, spiking the ball over his shoulder after the inning-ending groundout. That gets me excited!

I always read about the '85 ALCS and Stieb's back to back no hitters broken up in the 9th. Having a full breakdown explained in proper SB manner is greatly appreciated, long overdue and heartbreakingly frustrating.

Don't mind me, just commenting to help this absolute masterpiece of a video do well in the algorithm.

The first two parts of this have been ruddy bloody brilliant. I salute your beautiful channel. Cheers 🍻

I allowed myself to hope which is always dangerous on part 2/4, but honestly gutted about the back to back heartbreak. Insanity.

@jasonmain6398

2 жыл бұрын

Oh sweet summer child....... it gets worse.

@ynsimha7663

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonmain6398 Three in a row?

I didnt know this would become a horror story by the end.

“This is not a bad hop, it’s a fucking bloodbath.” Hardest quote from this gut wrenching masterpiece.

that hop was built up so perfectly. i was expecting an error or something and my jaw dropped

Born 1975 and going to many dozens of games at exhibition stadium from '95 to close it was great to watch him play. I can remember where I was for these games and the feelings I had for the almost could have while the team fails to regain the glory from '85. My first game was Tor 10-6 Kc in the Summer of 1985 and then Sept85 on a Friday night vs Yankees with over an hour rain delay and the failure to attempt to win division. I watched it on TV next day to clinch. Got to see Gruber hit a cycle in one of my games there and tickets were cheap at $4 for LF seats which were nice enough for me and free with groceries at the local grocery store. Thanks for the series, and Stieb as you read these comments and I know you will, thanks for the great memories.

for comparison: there are 329 million people in the United States. so what happened to Dave Stieb is only about 1.36 times more lkely than picking a completely random American citizen, and having it be Dave Stieb.

How the hell am I crying over a guy I’d never heard of 2 hours ago?

Watching your series on Capt. Ahab for the 2nd time. It's truly an amazing piece. As others have said "That's how you tell a story". This is a masterpiece. Bravo.

Secret Base consistently produces the smartest and most entertaining content on KZread. I keep trying to get my friends on board. It'll just be my secret I guess! Keep up the great work.

@calvinsmith6389

2 жыл бұрын

Also as a lifelong Braves fan it was great to see the Julio Franco clip. One of my favorite Braves ever!

Visualizing those odds in a way that induces vertigo is a brilliant way to give everyone the *gut feeling* of how tremendously unlikely this situation was.

Rest in ever-lasting peace, Bruce Sutter.

You guys have to understand what this means to Jays fans. The time that this stuff was happening... I was like 10 years old in 1990 when he finally got it. Baseball was like MAGIC. Like literal fucking magic. Thank you for this... this is so special.

I don’t know why but rewatching this again makes me cry like he had no idea how bad it could have gotten

Rewatching this a year later. I still get goosebumps at the ending. What a way to visualize EXACTLY what happened. Horrifying.

The detail and intricacy of this is amazing. I remember him being a good pitcher but didn't realize how good. This series is incredible.

I never thought a dave stieb documentary would keep me glued to the computer. this is fucking amazing. you guys deserve so much more. I hope we get to see a secret base tv show. one day. all you guys deserve the success

I grew up watching Columbia Fox NBA recordings, NFL films, MLB shows.... Your production is right up there with the classics.